Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - G Herbo Part 1

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/SHANNON and use code SHANNON and get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! G Herbo joins Shannon Sharpe on Club Shay Shay for a raw and powerful conversation about his life, music, and journey from Chicago’s East Side to rap superstardom. As he celebrates his birthday and the release of his new album Lil Herb, he opens up about the hunger that fueled his rise—from a 15-year-old kid rapping in the streets to one of hip-hop’s most authentic voices. Lil Herb takes fans back to his teenage years—growing up surrounded by violence, losing close friends, and navigating Chicago’s East Side. He recalls playing basketball at local parks, chasing dreams of going D1 before life pushed him toward music. Idols like Derrick Rose and comparisons to “Nick the Quick” gave him hope, but rap became his purpose. Even after playing in a celebrity basketball game with Drake, J. Cole, 21 Savage, and Chris Brown—where his team beat Drake and Savage’s squad a few times—he wouldn’t trade his career for anything. Herbo credits Chris Brown, Future, Meek Mill, Young Thug, and Juice WRLD as inspirations who pour their souls into every record. He explains his creative process—freestyling in his head before recording—and opens up about surviving Chicago’s streets: dropping out of school for safety, carrying a gun at 14, and getting shot at 16. Reflecting on King Von and Juice WRLD, he shares emotional stories about loss, survivor’s guilt, and grief. His best friend’s death led to heavy drinking and depression until a tough-love wake-up call changed his life. Support from 21 Savage and mentors like Common helped him heal. He also credits Chance the Rapper and Common for teaching him the importance of knowledge and growth. Chief Keef inspired his move to L.A., and Nicki Minaj jumpstarted his career with a feature that led to tours with Future, Cam’ron, and T.I. Herbo opens up about therapy, insomnia, and substance abuse, explaining how his nonprofit gives kids access to mental health support. He admits wasting time chasing the streets instead of the studio, but he’s proud of his growth. Approaching 30, he talks fatherhood, co-parenting, and love—raising his kids with honesty and empathy while keeping his relationship with fiancée Taina grounded. Before wrapping, he crowns his Chicago rap lineup—Chief Keef, Kanye West, Lil Durk, and Juice WRLD—and explains why Juice’s impact mirrors Tupac and Biggie. He closes by breaking down his Lil Herb album cover, a reminder of how far he’s come since his first mugshot at 11.From pain to purpose, trauma to triumph, G Herbo’s interview with Shannon Sharpe is one of his most honest yet—a story of survival, growth, and legacy that cements his place among Chicago’s greats.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Today is an undernavel and influential talent, one of the most popular artist from the Windy City. He's this generation's premier voice for the voiceless, a top tier MC, a platinum selling rapper, a songwriter with vivid storytelling ability, a respected community leader and philanthropist,

a pioneer for the mental health in their hip hop. He's admired as one of the most beloved family members in rap, a loving father, aka Little Herb. Here he is, G. Herbo. Let's see it, man. I appreciate you, man. Man, you got a birthday coming up. I got an album coming up.

Man, let's toast over this old shade. See what you think about this here. I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait to get something to share. I'm honest opinion now, because I, give me an opinion. smooth i need a bottle say no more i need a bottle say no more this album little herd who's a little herb is a kid from the east side of chicago one of the most poverty struck and dangerous

neighborhoods in chicago who just had a dream man a dream of you know rapping and making it out but was knee deep in the midst of the fire. Like growing up over there and starting to do music at 15, 16 years old, and they picking up and making a name for myself and still being in the streets and being shot at 16 and seeing a lot of my homies pass away. Like, Little Hurd was just a kid with a dream. You know what I'm saying? Fast forward, me being G. Herbo is like I had to kind of like tap back into my old self

and find their hunger for real. So that's why I really like, I'm on a little hurt wave right now. What's some of your fondest memories, your childhood memories, what's some of your fondest memories of you growing up on the east side of Chicago? Going to play basketball at Ecoso Park,

playing basketball at South Shore Park, playing basketball at Woodhaw Park, where it's like I'm from, I grew up all over the east side, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's not a lot of people that could really say they had memories more so in other areas other than they blocked the little two block radius

they grew up on. That's all you could see outside. You couldn't see outside of anything. Yeah, no, for sure. But the east side is pretty big and I got memories like all over because I got my aunts like lived in different parts of the neighborhood. I actually went to school in a neighborhood that wasn't where I lived at, you know what I'm saying? So it's like I had friends over there and I had friends in my neighborhood where I live. So my fondest memories are just being able to walk 12 blocks to go play basketball

you feel I'm saying like I definitely look back and thinking a lot of those people who I share those memories with not here no more yeah outside of rap did you dream of anything else other than rap or that was that you know my brother

just tells us tells me all the time he said a dream is a gift that we give to ourselves I never heard that so outside of rap you said you know you started 15 16 outside when you were growing up say you're 9 10 11 12 what did you I wanted to play basketball.

You want to who? Yeah, I wanted to go D1 and go to the week, everybody, like. And I wasn't, like, when I was young, I didn't really get good at basketball until I got, like, eighth grade, ninth grade for real. Like, I just had a dream. I wanted to do it because it was the cool thing to do. Right. My big cousins and big brother and all them played basketball, and they was good, you know,

and I just wanted to, like, follow after them for real. And I really, like, I used to, like, believe that I could do it for real, you know what I'm saying? So you could really hoop. Yeah, I'm nice. I can hoot, for sure, for sure, for sure. But my dreams just got cut short so early. Right. 15, 16 out freshman, sophomore in high school.

I got shot, got kicked off the team, stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? So it's like I just lean towards rap, but I never wanted to beat anything other than the basketball playing the rapper. Did you play any other sports? Do you try football? I never try football, man. I just, like, I just fell in love with basketball and just, we played basketball. Like, I wasn't athletic at all.

I'm not going to lie to you. So who would you compare your basketball game? to. You, you, LeBron, you Steff Curry, you KD, you, you know, you're going to laugh at this for real, for you. You know who they used to compare me to? Who? Van Exel. Nick, Nick and not? Yeah. Let's get a little shot at this right quick. Yeah. I don't know about that. Nick DeQuick?

Yeah. But if you were saying, my manager used to say I was, I used to play like Van Nexel, because I could, like, I used to be able to like. You lefty? Yeah, I'm left in. Oh, okay. Get to whatever spot, like. So, Nick De Quig, I was, I was indifferent when he got there. Yeah, yeah. He was nice. He was. He was nice. He could dance with it, nice. I was nice in my

primus, prime for you. I was all right. So, obviously, if you're from Chicago, you know D. Rose. Yeah, for sure. D. Rose, people say, man, D. Rose is probably bigger in Chicago than George.

I've said that before. You said that? My own mouth, I said that. That was you? I said that. Man, you need to get more than it. I don't know. You must have been drinking.

When you said that? Let me give you my opinion on why I said. Okay, give me your opinion. I'm not going to like Jordan is the biggest of the biggest. I'm not going to say that, but it's like coming from Chicago, D. Roe's homegrown. You know he homegrown. It's like we've seen it.

Like I used to watch him play when he went to Beasley. I knew who Derek Rose was. I'm saying from Beasley to Simeon. You feel me? Like that's why I felt like it just made it like any kid from Chicago, they dream like you could do it. We really watch D. Rose do it and become one of the greatest point guards to ever play in the NBA.

Youngest MVP. He just gave us so much hope in Chicago, you know what I'm saying? Then you got to think about it. I was born in 95, so I ain't really get to see Jordan play on the highlights. I've seen Derek Rose in real time. Yeah, you're right about that.

So that's what I meant about it. I mean, clear. Yeah, because people are like, but hold on, bro. How are you going to say D. Rose? But I get what you're saying because you're talking about a guy from Chicago. Poverty, strong. Grew up poor, bro, and became one of the biggest to ever play the game, in my opinion.

What is D. Rhodes' trajectory if he doesn't get hurt? If he doesn't hurt that knee, and we saw him become the youngest MVP in NBA history. So his trajectory was like, now, hey, he's a phenomenal player, but I still think we were robbed of him at his absolute prime. Absolutely. We definitely got robbed of Derek Rose. You know what I'm saying? It's like, that's why we're so passionate about it because we know what it would have been if he didn't hurt itself. You can't tell me that Derek Rose wouldn't have left the NBA without no rings, you know what I'm saying?

before he hurt itself, you know, because he was just so good, they would have, especially what the NBA is now and what it was, what it was becoming. Like, they would have built a team around him. He would have had a dynasty around him, for real, for real. Like, you can't tell nobody in Chicago that Derek Rose is not top three point guard ever. Right. Still, you feel I'm saying?

Like, and that's how I feel about him, like, for sure. What is it about hoopers and athletes wanting to be rappers? rappers want to be Hoopers and football player What is the combination What is the common thread? What is the fabric that tie these together?

I think it's just like The cool it factor You know what I'm saying? Like the lifestyle that rappers that artists live It's like It's glamorized It's looked upon

It's like fun And athletes really like They life is discipline, structure Yes Gym workouts You know the The athlete that go to the club and party, like an artist, he gets criticized the most, you know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, I feel like they just want to have that kind of fun because they really got more money than us.

They got more money than us, but we have it more fun. Right. So it's like, I feel like that's the whole thing that tie it to each other. And you got to think about like just the motivation and inspiration that we give them with our music and our art. You know what I'm saying? and then working out in the gym listening to it and get them in their mold. Like, it's certain songs that you listen to,

like, I'm gonna go school 40 tonight. Right, you know what I'm saying? I think that's really like the bridge in between and and a lot of artists like myself, we had hoop dreams or football dreams before we did it. So it's like we look up to them too because they are what we wanted to be, but it ain't work out.

Like rap was I playing B. You feel I mean? They playing A work. If I gave you a choice, say, you know what? You could have went to the NBA or you be the rapper would you trade your career your rap career to be in the NBA no no well damn what you mean I wouldn't because I feel like early on I thought that's what I was like

destined to do but I really feel like I'm living in my purpose now like with all the people that I influence and what my music is it's not really just like rap for me like the greatest feeling that I get from this is when people tell me like you changed my life bro wow you got me through this situation like my brother passed my grandmother my dad passed and like if it was wasn't for your music, I don't even know what I would be or what I would be doing. And don't get me wrong, you could influence those kind of people through, you know, sports and stuff like that. But I just feel like I was really meant to be who I am right now.

Right. All right. Hoot rappers, you, Jay Cole, Savage, Drake, Dave Ease, Breezy. Now, it's reported that you beat Drake and Savage. Yeah. Yeah, we did. Oh, you know, Drake. Time's in a row.

Hold on. Drake, like, I've seen video. I haven't seen it with my own eyes, but I watched them in the video. And Drake got game. Drake to shoot the net off that, motherfucker, for sure. And you beat you. Yeah, yeah. You beat Savage.

Yeah, we beat the five on the same team. Oh, your team beat his team. Yeah, we beat them for sure, like four-five time. Damn. Yeah, for sure. And we'll do it again. Y'all had some money on the line? We ain't even play for no money.

We didn't even play for no money. We were just playing for the sport. They had probably take a serious next time with that money on the wood. Yeah, now, we put that money on the wood, for sure. We could play for that money. They got a lot of us. You try to get a little popcorn. Yeah, yeah, we can play.

For sure. But now, that's my dog, man. 21, that's my brother, Drake, my home. We was just at the career vabbing and hooping, and shit. Yeah, we beat their ass like four, five times in a row. So who's idea wasn't to get them to talk? Man, y'all in, okay, y'all in there, y'all talking. Y'all, you're doing your thing.

Y'all probably in the studio. Man, somebody started talking, man. Hey, bro, hey, you know how I'd be. Like, everybody got the hoop of dreams, they get the wood, for like, all right, man, come on, suit up. Like, it was one of them. Take it to the court. Suit up.

Yeah, right, come on, suit up for sure. Like, niggas bringing hoop shoes. Like, what size you were? You wear a knat? All right, go get me, bring me another nah. You know what I'm saying? Like, shit like that, for sure. Now, I don't know about y'all, really.

But I've seen Chris Brown. Chris Brown can really, really place. He's nice, too. We played Chris Brown in the crew league. We lost, though. Yeah, yeah. I figured, I figured that. I wasn't going to say that, but I figured it was.

No, we lost the Breezy team, for sure. Every time we went to the crew lead, we made it to the finals, though. We always made it to the championship. There's been a lot of talk. And I know you didn't even probably get an opportunity to see him at its prime idea, Michael Jackson. A lot of people say Chris Brown is the greatest entertainer ever. That title has been bestowed to Michael for a very long time. Now, we know when it comes to album sales, record sales, nobody's going to be able to approach Mike.

First of all, they don't sell vinyl. They don't sell records like that anymore. So that's null and boy. But do you believe that Chris Brown is the greatest entertainer? I feel like there's nobody closer to Michael Jackson than Chris Brown. Right. Honestly. Like, for real, for real.

And just seeing it with my own eyes, you know, and just seeing, like, who he is as a person and putting your whole everything into your crap, you know what I'm saying? Like, he really, like, is mind-blowing seeing him on stage. Like, having all that energy. Yeah, man. His hits. Like, being in shape where you could do with 30-5 flip. back to back you know what I'm saying like yeah two hours two and a half hours of that night

to night and that's insane for 50 nights in a row and you can go do it again you could go do it out the country you could do it in the States you know what I'm saying like yeah Breezy definitely in my opinion is the closest thing to Michael Jackson for sure how was it working with Breezy so what's he like in the studio what's it like you know you like you said he's an un phenomenal performer he can sing he can dance there's not a I mean I don't even know if he got bones in his body the way he can get his body to do all that stuff people yeah my knees hurt i'm gonna have to get my knees replaced just watching the videos i don't got me he'll replaced you know like some people just like have that it factor you for i'm saying

like some people is really like god really put their hands on you and just made you this is what i want you to do everything you do you what i'm saying in that in that field yeah and that's the same thing with like with him in the studio like the way he record is second nature when he and his compass on like he wants you to come pull up on him come to the career come while i'm at right and like just vibe and it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna have the same outcome every time you what I'm saying like he's not gonna miss it's just what he do you feel like and when I seen that like it's only certain people that I ever seen in my life who I feel like I just like amazing at making music you know I'm saying and that's that's

Chris Brown juice world future meat meal and thug those the only people that I really seen my own ass like this shit really is second nature to them you know what I'm saying like and it inspired me to like get better you guys get my game up baddish and inspire me to like just because I'm like a sponge though when I watch people do certain things I'll pick up from you know what I'm saying the way they record and they patterns like you feel I'm saying like I'll give you example like meet meal he freestyle a bunch of different flows and like cadences until he just found that one day he the most comfortable with and just go off of that right I'm saying and Pluto do the same thing for real in his own way it's like

like he just keep on like he just edit he's just spin shit and it sound like he mumbling at first right and when you hear it all put together that shit sound like amazing and i seen juice world do the same thing with his music like juice used to i've never seen nobody do what juice world do though juice would wrap a full song in one tape like without punching in like he would rap a really a full song a hook two verses all in one take without stopping and stop and rap another song completely different on the same beat in one take. He'll do it at least three

four times. Damn. And just picked his favorite one. I've never seen nobody do that in my life. Ever. So look, I've had a lot of people on the show and it's like, you know, Hove, you play Hove a beat, hove's in the back, he's real quiet. He's just nodding his head.

Then he go in, boom, do his thing. Face said, like, while he's listening to the beat, he's right. Wayne don't write anything down he just go drop the track what's your style um I'm kind of like a mixture between like what hold

and what Wayne do like I'm quiet like Southside Southside's my brother man he's been producing me since I was 16 years old like I didn't hurt him like like you know how you be focused I'm thinking in my head like that's how I do in my head I don't write I haven't wrote no song in probably

four five years right for real so it's like I just be in there vibe in my off the top of my head I'm saying the lyrics in my head though like I'm thinking of at least the first four to a boss then I go in and whatever I memorize I say and from now just pick on and punch in like like how Wayne do right but I'm talking about south side I heard him say like because they're being there making a beat and I just be like nodding and they be like yeah somebody asks like when he's gonna go in that he like bro he rapping already in his hair like he already like he like he noticed that I did that before I even was

notice like I just think of shit but you like you always do that like I'd just be in there vibing in my head and you would think I'm listening to the beat but I'm actually rapping like my first four to eight bars at least wow so you're not really paying attention no to what the beat is doing you're thinking about what you're going to say over that exactly exactly like so as they making the beat and they're producing like I'm just letting them do them because I know they're going to add more to it regardless so it's like once I hear a sound or a loop I know if I want to rap on the beat the first four seconds of it you know I'm saying like I know how I want to come into it. So it's like I'll be in my head

just thinking the stuff, thinking the flows, and it don't take me long. Maybe after like 15 minutes or something, I'm ready to go rap. Damn. So you don't get, you don't get distracted? Because if I'm like thinking about something, I'm, you know, man, be quiet. Come on, man, damn. No, hell no.

You need that. Yeah, I do. I love that type of energy. And I think I've grown into that artist where it's like sometimes I might want to be in the studio by myself. But majority of the time, nine times out of ten, I want at least ten, people in this studio. That's what I was going to ask because some like, no, bro, I want it quiet. Some guys, look, I want a fire up and I want chaos. I want people just running around doing

whatever y'all do, hey, because that don't impact me. Let's get at it. And it's inspiring my music, though. So it's like a conversation that we might be having in this room, I might think of something and it inspired me to like put it on the song, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, I actually like when it's a lot of people. And people be loud and talking and laughing and shit. don't bother me at all. Can you turn your mind off? Because, you know, I heard him says that, like, when he was in it, he's like, every time he was just thinking something to rhyme, rhyme, kick, tick, tick, flick, Mick.

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Um, no, I don't. And you know, I actually changed my whole style of, like, a few years ago because one of my closest friends my best friend whoop he told me like bro i watched you rap from your very first times in the studio till now and i know like when you thinking too hard about stuff like i don't even think about metaphor stuff that ram i don't think about stories i need to tell he said just going up and vab to the beat bro that's when you make your hard as shit like okay he told me like every time you overthinking one time i did a song me and 21 Savage was in the studio and this was like this was probably like four years ago and he like bro you thought too hard about that verse like you could have went way crazy and damn and I was in my head thinking

like I didn't really like the verse for real right okay you was already there I was already thinking like I didn't really like it I felt like I was frustrated thinking about too much shit because at that moment it's like 21 so big as an artist I want to put my hardest shit on this you feel I'm saying he's calling to the studio to jump on it so I'm thinking like I got to get my fire ass verse and I shouldn't have been thinking like that I should have just been like I I'm gonna just go in there and when he told me that I never thought hard about my music again and I feel like I just got better and better is that common like you want to beat and you know that they got some other five they got heat on that thing so you're like I ain't fit to be

because you know it's natural they're gonna compare man who had the hardest verse on that track absolutely for sure and you like all I know I might not be the hardest but I dead damn sure ain't gonna say I'm the weak yeah no yeah I go in with that mentality already like all right but I don't think about what I'm a say okay whatever's going on on the song I might just listen to the vibe the hook or a little bit like I barely listen to their verses once I listen to the hook and a little bit of the verse I just go in there and just start rapping and that shit come out like and you know what it is I'm a real like critical think I think a lot I can't really turn my mind off to stop thinking right so it's like

when I get in my zone I just like rap and say whatever come to me right at that moment I'm like What I mean by it so if I could like make it make more sense for you is as an artist instead of thinking about the lines as they come soon as it gets your brain you start rapping, you're thinking about the end of the song. Like I want to like you're thinking about shit before it even come to you. Right. What I'm going to say next. I don't do that no more. Like I just whatever come to my head and a lot of times I used to think about like, damn, should I say this? Should I not say this?

Right. How is this going to like get, how is this going to like reflect on? the world or certain things I say like damn how's this going to affect this person I might be talking about something or somebody like damn is this going to offend people like I used to think like that all the time now I really just don't care like I don't even give a fuck about nothing I don't care how people going to receive it or anything because at the end of the day it's like this is my art right so this is what you're feeling at that time so hey you receive it how you receive it but this is how I feel with it and I feel like once I started thinking like that

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other people's verse on that track or do you like, hey, give me, let me come in when I come in and then whatever happens happens, happen. Because, you know, sometimes they might play somebody that's on the track. They might play that verse. you hear it and then what have you ever recorded and then you heard somebody just no i got to do mine over hell yeah yeah yeah i've done that before for sure so i like that's why i like to hear that okay i'm not gonna lie i definitely like to hear don't send me no blank song for i'm gonna get offended a little bit like i'm gonna get mad because i don't do that right i'm saying like i feel like i got at least hear your verse to give me some type of direction right because i could be all over the place

And you're on one subject of the song, you know what I'm saying? I feel like people do that intentionally because they want to burn you want to go. They want to have the hardest shit. You know what I do? When they do that, I'd be like, no, hell now, send me your verse. You know what I'm saying? Or I take long with the verse on purpose, you feel I'm saying? Then they go ahead and see you.

Yeah, I take long with the verse on purpose. And then it's like, now I'm taking my time with it. Because sometimes I will go in the studio and like, lay four bars. Be like, all right, but I'm from doing another song. And then come back to that song and lay another four bars and lay eight bars or whatever until I finish the whole verse. Like, I've done that multiple times. You say, I want to hear what they're saying because you ain't fit to burn me.

Yeah, hell no, no, hell, no, you got to send the whole verse. Especially if I know that the song done already, like, hell no, and I want you to send me everybody on it. Artists do that too, though. Do it. Yeah, so save an instance,

if I'm about to do a song when Meek Mill, he has sent me his verse, but Jada Kiss will be on the song already too, so he wouldn't send me to... Nah, not you... I'm not saying him personally, but artists done that. Right, right.

It'll be other people on the song, but they're not sending their verses. Like, no, I don't need to hear everybody that's on this fucking song right now before I lay my shit. But so let's just say for the sake of argument, you got four guys on a song. Do you matter to you

which sequence you go? Are you first, you second, you third, you finish up? Who determines the order, the sequence in which? I feel like whoever song it is. And just like, rapper etiquette, whoever got the hardest verse have to go less.

Right. First or less. You can't really go in the middle, you know what I'm saying? So I don't really mind, though. I don't be caring because I really feel like I'm going to have a hard. You got that fire anyway, so it don't matter. And a lot of times they put me last on the verse for sure. I'm usually always last.

I mean, the first or last for sure. Okay. Let's go back to the beginning. You said you're born in Chicago, east side of Chicago. Obviously, you talked about having homies and people that you knew and you grew up with, not make it as far as you did. what was that culture like the gang culture? When did you realize

that you man? My life different than a lot of people that's my age that look like me they don't have to experience what I'm experienced. When did you realize that where you were definitely was going to impact what you became?

When I started traveling when I started to actually see other places and go to other cities and I started traveling doing shows when I was like 17 years old. Like, going to Rhode Island, going to, like, Boston and seeing, like, damn, this shit totally different. It's hoods everywhere don't get me wrong. Correct.

Even, like, other cities in the Midwest, like, you know what I'm saying? Minnesota and shit, like, everybody got their hoods. It's all, like, trenched out dangerous, but Chicago is just totally different. And the stuff that I grew up seeing, I thought it was normal because everybody was doing that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you're going to school. Like, I've seen my first guns and shit at school, like, you know? People going to school and having guns on them and I'm in fifth grade, sixth grade, you know what I'm saying?

They're having a dip them bitches off and then you look up at the time you're 8th grade, we got metal detectors. Because niggas know that, you know what I'm saying? People that brought guns to school and shit and like my first home, like, it was like, it didn't dawn on me that my life was so different and so chaotic until I started to see people from other places and like having conversations with people that was older than me. me that didn't really like that grew up in Chicago but didn't grow up how we grew up that wasn't in the streets you know what I'm saying like I lost some of my first friends when I was in like sixth grade like that's when I started seeing people get killed and murdering this shit like all right but I but bro he went to my school he used to chop it up and we come back school next day like yeah so-and-so got killed you feel I mean like that your first experience

with death when you're in the like the sixth grade with death with people getting killed yeah murders yeah for sure like sixth grade fifth grade fifth grade shit like that was like somebody who you know because I had older older cousins and and brothers and shit that went to my school my I got an older brother and I got older cousins and it was like we was deep it was probably like nine of us that went to that school so like their friends and in and they grade you seeing people they hang out with like damn he just got killed you from saying it they come back to school people sad some other shit and it was like it was so normal like people just

went on with their date and then maybe a few months later this person got killed you know and it's like I didn't really like it didn't hit home for me until I got in like seventh and eighth grade when I started to like people who I knew and looked up to started to get killed you know what I'm saying it was all like behind like street shit gang shit you know I'm saying it wasn't no accidental shit it's like damn you and it wasn't no car wreck yeah yeah yeah somebody in somebody had a illness leukemia cancer or something like that no hell no like somebody intentionally killed you so it's like it gets to a point where where you like, damn on, I can't become a victim of this shit.

You know what I'm saying? That's what I wanted to ask you. Yeah. You said East Side is, it's big, but you didn't see anybody. It's really small. It's really, same time. But let me ask you this. Did you know anybody from the East Side that had made it out and became successful doing something?

Because it's hard, being from rural South Georgia, we didn't see anybody. We didn't know anybody that had made it to the NFL or we didn't have anybody to come back and talk to us and give us pep talks and say, you could become. um this you know all we saw was advertising uh military looking for a few good men yeah ain't it yeah yeah you know i'm trying to get i'm trying to get i'm trying to get a fight of there but that that's not the route i'm trying to go so when did you make it up in your mind say you know what i see all this death happening around me i ain't going that right probably when i i dropped out of school like i was still rapping and going to school and i had like a little hood fame and

on the rite, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, by the time I was 16 years old, people actually really know my name. Okay. But at the same time, I was in the streets. So that was bad as well. You know what I'm saying? It's like now it's to a point where I'm rapping. I got videos on YouTube that got 20,000, 30,000 views, 40,000, 100,000 views is picking up, like, for real, like really picking up.

And those 100,000, coming from other cities and stuff like that, too. But the majority of it is coming from Chicago. Right. Like, I'm becoming a household name in Chicago, you know what I'm saying? But I'm still going to school. So it's like, oh, yeah, but he'd go to that school. We better come up to that school and get this. Like, yeah, niggas who's coming up to my school, like, looking for me and shit.

And I was like, I was always, like, smart. I was steps ahead of everybody. Like, I never, like, really rolled the bus for real. Like, after, when I got popping, like, my freshman year, yeah, I could get on the bus. But by the time I was a sophomore, I dropped out my sophomore year. Okay. By the time I was a sophomore, I dropped out my sophomore year. It was like I had to get dropped off from school by my homies.

Had to get picked up from school by my homies. Like, my mama couldn't draw me off or pick me up at school because I didn't want to put my mom in harm as way. You feel me? Like, I never used to drive my sister off when I had a car. I never took her to school. I never put her in the car with me because I knew the reality of my life. Like, my car really could get shot up for real. And I didn't want to have my mama and my sister in the car.

So it's like, when I dropped out of school, I'm like, bro, I got to really do this shit for real. Like, I really, like, I made a promise to my mom and dad, you know. My little brother, little gray, who passed away, his babe mama told me a conversation that I had with my dad, I didn't remember. Like, he was arguing, yelling at me, like, man, he was dropping out of school. Like, what you gonna be a flunky?

Like, one of these niggas? I'm like, no, I'm about to rap. This shit about to work. He's like, what's your plan B? I'm like, ain't no plan B. This shit, like, the work pops is gonna work. I'm telling you, like, I'm about to really do it. So at that age, I'm 16, 17 years old.

I really have a lot of responsibility on me because, like, are you not going to school? You're not fin to sit around this house either and just be around this bitch getting high eating up all the food You got to do something and go get some money You know what I'm saying right? That's the type of time like you know my mom and everybody was on like all right So what you're gonna do and man? Thank God that it actually Started to pick up fast you feel like I dropped out of school Maybe six months later or eight months later when I was going into my junior year

Nicky and I just called my phone for a feature you feel me so it's damn it started to pick up early on you know and in the midst of all of that people was dying around me a lot of my closest friends so it's like I had to still maneuver through that because I was still living in Chicago I'm saying it's like and we were young you know my brain wasn't even fully developed yeah so I'm still thinking I could you've been young you're invincible yeah I thought I was invincible for real like I ain't gonna lie and I at the same time let me rephrase it like I knew I wasn't but I didn't care I was willing to like put my life on the line and do certain shit where it's like I go to this store I go to the gas station I'm willing to really like

pull my gun out and protect myself right I'm saying at any given moment and that's really like that's crash out shit yeah for sure because man first of all if you got to go somewhere you got to carry a gun you already know yeah you already know it's yeah you're a real OG because like my uncles used to say that like bro if I got to carry a gun I don't even want to go there No, because you already looking for something to pop up. We used to complete opposite. Like, I'm carrying it everywhere, like, every single where I go. Like, we used to the complete opposite of that, if I'm saying.

Like, I don't want to go no way. I can't carry a gun. Oh, Lord. That's how I used to think, for real. You go, hey, you're hoping something to jump off. Yeah, no, I used to think like that, for real, man. It's like, but it was only because you got to think about it. Like, death was at an all-time hat where I'm from, like, so many of my friends.

By the time, like, when I met my first manager, Mickey, who still I managed to this day, when I met him, he made me, like, he just always thought outside the box. He like, man, I'm about to paint this picture, like, you know, y'all story, you being from the hood and, excuse me, being in the streets and losing homies at 14, 15, 16, he's like, man, I want to do a mirror like, write your homies down, your closest homies that passed away, you feel me? And like, he thought it was probably going to be three, four, like it was like 20 people on the wall. 17 people with some shit like that

on the wall that we spray painted and we're down in the lost room and it blew his mind he like God damn like you really know them them many people did I'm like yeah

yeah yeah like and that's all in the matter four years three or four years yeah shit like that do you remember how old you were when you got your first gun um

I like 14 14 yeah yeah I remember I bought it myself I mean normally you know People try to get like PlayStation or Xboxes and stuff like that. I mean, you're getting that too. And you didn't think it like, you thought it was, was it, was it cool to you or do you think, man,

this is a necessary part of the outfit? No, I needed it. Like, for real, like leaving out of the house, going to certain places you got to think. Like I said, he's had big, but it's small. I live right here. My auntie lived eight blocks this way. My best friend lived, five, six blocks this way.

It's like, when I ain't had a little. transportation I got to walk to the house or catch the bus you never know who you so you got that thing on you hair yeah I yeah I bought my first gun on like 14 so what happened what happened to you know we grew up 30 things we grew up fighting too but it was over with it but didn't nobody like taking no ass cut nobody want to get their ass so because especially now because it's on the internet yeah it's forever so you take a hell and I got to go get I got to get back that's another thing like I'm not even being funny I ain't joking like me and all my homies like knew how to fight yeah we really

used to whoop niggas ass for it. So it's like they used to get mad and they started shooting at us, for real, for real, to be honest. Like, all my homies know how to fight. Right. My big brother, he knows how to fight, good as fuck. You feel I'm saying? My big cousin's not a fight, good as fuck.

And I was the youngest. They used to beat me up all the time. So it's like, I grew up fighting my whole life. And then I think I'm light-skinned. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to get it. He didn't hear of him. He'll do that. You know, he's all.

You know, he's all. You know, he's called me South Pretty Boy. My name Herbert is to call me Hershey. Ah, bad, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right now. You can do life skin and your name, Herbert? Oh, yeah, you got a double way. He's to have to fight a lot, like, all the time, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, I grew up knowing how to fight, but it got to a point where it's like,

ain't nobody fun to just let you just beat them up, you feel? And then you're going to want to do something to you. Yeah, yeah. It got to a point where it's like, I don't even got enough love for you to be fighting you because I know if I will, you're going to try to shoot me anyway, I might as well just skip to the get down. We might as well just do what we're going to do, you're like, hey, in the beginning, the end. You ain't got no middle part. I feel like that was, that was just what was going on, man.

I ain't going to lie to you. But you make a decision, then you got shot at 16. Walkers through that day, wake up, like, hey, man, sun's out. I mean, because sometimes people get like, man, I just, I mean, I've had things happen to me, man. That was a good day up into that part, too. It was a good-ass day. I ain't going to lie. Like, I had, I was fresh as brand new outfit.

Dang. I had on, like, true religion. Louis belt leader's hoodie leader's hat wheat timulins um you know so crazy I'm gonna tell you a funny story too so I had a a photo shoot with a think it was elevator magazine at the time and I was shooting like content for my first mixtape walking the phaseland so I was downtown feeling good nice fit on you feel me like dressed up smoking yeah just chilling like I had a great day great photo shoot so it's like I'm like Like, it was in the middle of the summer, too.

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He's still, no, no, hell, no. I'm going to put my Tim's on, so I wind up, like, kind of like strong arm and about him and still getting the money. Like, bro, give me these damn shoes. Right. I get shot in the shoes. I got shot in the foot. He was, like, once he, he was crying, right?

His Bay Mama told me, like, yeah, Herb got shot. I'm going to still tell you the story like how it happened, but I'm just saying this part. He's like, yeah, Herb got shot. He on the phone crying and shit. So he wound up found out he was good, like that I was good. He didn't know at first, you feel me? So on Twitter, like, I was famous a little bit when I got shot.

So they're on Twitter talking about the shit when he found out I was good and I got shot in the foot. This fuck man he was only mad about his shoes. He got a hole in his team. He only mad about the shoes now. After I paid him for him and everything. He bad, man, you didn't. shot my teams like shit like that like that's not like a

ain't shit man you're gonna say ready to my timbs I paid you for yeah like come on bro for real but matter of fact you know what it was I was on he was so on some petty shit he wasn't even going to battle I think I let him finesse me I gave him the money and still told him like bro I'm gonna get your team's back like you can have right way him to the shoot and I'm gonna get your shoes back so that's why he was mad like man you was supposed to gave my shit back and I got shot at but anyway so look it was It was a hot, like I said, a hot summer day, go outside of my block, and we're out there deep, like, deep, deep, probably like, 50, 60 of us, you know what I'm saying? And my hood was, like, packed, so it's like, we'll be posted up on one block, probably 20, 30 people, girls, and we're on the whole next block, 20, 30 people, girls, like, and just rotating, walking back and forward from stores, it was one of them type of abs.

And we're just out there chilling with a bunch of girls and shit. And, you know, it's so crazy, like, two of my homies had walked up on the corner and told him, like, hey, I just seen some niggas riding with hoodies on and shit, like, you feel I'm saying? They feel to come right through here, you feel me? Like, he gave us a warning and everything. He told me, like, move around, I'm standing from right here. One of my homies who passed away, long live my homie cap, man, Marva Carr.

He got, he got, like, two girls right there. I think he'd talking to, and I was talking to one of the girls at the time, and another the girl that was right there was one of my home one of the guys who wore me my homie it was his baby mama at the time so when he like man move around from right here like he telling us move around you feel I'm saying and they're gonna go on the next block and just like secure the area because they on point right but my homie on some cocky shit like man he's like let them come you feel I'm saying and in the back of my mind I knew they weren't lying I'm like no I'm gonna come

right here so I told the girls like y'all move around just go to the corner type shit and they moved around but we never moved though we never's like well damn you gave them hands up and you eat your own warning I ain't I just we just stayed right there like and you know it's so crazy like when it happened we always before it happened I mean we all was like on this one block and the police pulled up right there some shit like everybody looked like they didn't even hop out in friskers they was like everybody lift y'all shirt up and just like to make sure we had no guns on that shit lift our shirt up

shirt up and I went around the block and lo and behold so as I get to the corner after I told the girls to move around and he just pulled up shooting and I got hit and like me and like eight other of my homies like nine of us got hit that shit was on the newspaper article like damn yeah some crazy shit for sure yeah like nine of us got shot that then you wish you'd had that thing on you weren't you no I ain't of course for sure but I ain't gonna lie I'm gonna keep it a buck with you for real for real when that shit happened when the police pulled right there I threw my gun like on the like in the field under somewhere. I had it on me 35 seconds before it happened. Like you feel of it. Y'all saw them coming so you saw the police coming. Yeah, you got rid of. Then they walked up like

on some lift y'all's shirt up. But to be honest though, I feel like it was like some shit where like a might have called the police like oh yeah they right there standing with guns so we could get dispersed or whatever and then come around and do what they did type shit, you feel. I'm saying. I feel like it was

a situation like that. Yeah. Was that the moment that you realize, you know what? I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it so I can't. I'm somebody now. Because like you said, your music had started to take off. You're not the same. I'm going to be completely honest with you, man.

Hell, no. I was right back. You were looking for some issues. I was right back out there, man. I got a shot. I probably went out there the next day after that with a boot on my leg, just outside standing. Looking for hoping they come back, ain't it?

No, not even that. It's like not caring. Like, really just not caring if they come back for real. Damn. Like, because we, I mean, it's not like we was oblivious to it. Like, we knew possibly like, yeah, a nigga come back through this bitch shoot. It's a war zone. It's hot.

You know what I'm saying? Come through this bitch shooting at any day. But I wasn't worried about it. I wasn't scared. You know what I'm saying? Like, and like I said, right before I got shot, I did have a gun on me. I threw it. You know what I'm saying when the police came.

So it was like, even when I was back out there the next day, I was back out there with a boot. Can't run. But got guns. still like but but there nobody lose their life doing that no not that day nope no they just got people just got here yeah yeah nobody lost their life for sure but uh nine of us like got shot that day for sure that shit made the news and everything like damn how many was in the car four five what the car that came they rolled through yeah yeah they came but they came spread they get that many boys came hot the boys came hot damn man I just you told the story

like you know what you're like you're like you really realize that you know what I'm not the same guy anymore and me not being the same guy anymore I can't people people that I love in harm's way mom you ain't driving me to school no more little sis you not I'm not dropping you off to school the homies that this is what we this is who we are right we good with it whatever happened to us I can live with that but if something would happen to my mom or sister I'm really going to go crazy and some stuff's going to really I'm I'm it's never going to end yeah so I'm not even I don't got nothing to live for at that point for sure so it's like yeah i understood that early like i never put my mom in the car

my aunties my grandmother my nobody ever got in the car with me and i never got in the car with them like i would rather just wait all day until somebody pick me up before i desperately tell my mama to drop me out somewhere you feel and i didn't did that many many of times you know and the first thing i did when i got some real money the very first thing i did was bought my mama a house far far far away right super far like I mean my mama like 40 minutes away from the hood you know and nobody never knew what she lived only probably three of my closest friends ever been to my mama house still to this day you feel me so I always been one of the kind of people just like you know protect family my dad told me that like I come from a two-parent household so my

pops always told me like protect your family no matter what you got going on you feel me and my parents always like trusted me enough to just make good decisions like Although I was in the streets and I had like shit going on, they trusted me to never bring it back to my house, you feel I'm saying? And like, I took that real serious. You mentioned that you were in the street. You come from a two-parent household.

Your dad, your mom ever say, son, son, you don't have to do that. I think I was just too far. You weren't trying to hear that. I was too far gone. I'm not going to lie. And I always been like real strong-headed. And my dad, he know me, like me and him the same sign and everything. So it's like once I was already in it

All they could really do is tell me just be smart for me. Like, it was, I was too, too late. You went to high school with King Vaughn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Vaughn probably was in one or two, his ass ain't come back to school. Yeah, for sure, yeah, I definitely went to high school with Juan though. So what was, so, I mean, obviously you said you went to school not very long, but when you, what was your thoughts when you first met it?

when you first met it. Mm-hmm. I actually, I had already known, like, who Vaughn was before school because we got, like, mutual friends. Right, okay. My homie, like I said, one of my best friends, whoop, he from the projects that got knocked down. And a lot of those people from, like, Von Hood, like, O'block and shit like that, they from those projects. Okay. So, like, they had already, like, known each other, and we didn't been around each other many a time.

So it's, like, I already, like, move on and knew, like, and knew, like, what he was a like bro's the real deal for real oh he's on that type of time for real no for sure so like is that true that I mean I'll be reading I don't know if it's true or not but I'll be hearing they like man if you wouldn't do it vaugh it I go do it myself I mean yeah it was a lot of people like that in Chicago though for real yeah yeah it was a lot of people but you got think about it when you when you on that type of time you can't really like and this is something that's really true I feel like if you second guessing yourself and you can pull me up some more too if you second guessing yourself and you don't want to do it just don't do it you shouldn't do it

right what i'm saying like and i believe in that like i wouldn't want to have nobody around me for real that i got to like question the second guess because that could cost you your life for sure like somebody would choke up and freeze and who doesn't cost your life yeah so it's like yeah for sure if you wasn't on that type of time he didn't even want to hang with you i wouldn't want to hang with you either because it's like you really don't want to do this go find you something else to do this ain't for you you know what i'm saying so it's like yeah for sure for sure I'm like that was probably the first day of school when I seen Vaughan in and he walked up to my homie like hey boy It's going down in this like if I'm saying like he already want us like boy y'all be on point here damn yeah

Yeah for sure how difficult was it for you to watch him get murdered on video that shit broke my heart for sure like I don't like I don't really be Like emotional for Like, I'm so numb to death. I'm not a stranger to it because I've been experiencing it my whole life. But, like, when he died and seeing that shit, like, that shit really, like, I'm going to get the motion right now thinking about it. Did you hear about it and then watch the video or did you see the video first? Because did you get... I had, no, I had heard about it already.

I heard about it the night of happened, you know what I'm saying? Because we got so many mutual friends that shit got right to me, you feel me? Like, as soon as it happened, I knew probably like an hour later, you feel me? Right. And then I seen a video. And yeah, that shit definitely made me emotional for sure, like, just seeing it and no matter, like, and I don't want people to, like, take what I'm saying and misconfuse it. Like, when we come from, sometimes you just, well, not sometimes, a lot of times, you've got to adapt to your environment. Like, no matter what you might think somebody did or stuff shit a nigga might did, like, we really be having good hearts at the end of the day.

Like, I don't care what Vaughn did in the streets. That was a good nigga, like a real nigga. You know what I'm saying? It's like, don't give me where I believe in, like, universal law, you feel I'm saying? So it's like, have it played out, it played out, okay, you feel me. You live by the gun, you die by the gun. You know what I'm saying? Like, a real, a real that come from the streets, understand.

Understand that. Understand that. Understand that, but just seeing it. And like, you know what I'm saying? Just seeing like, damn, like that shit, I feel like that wasn't his story. Like, you know what I'm saying? I feel like it just, he had so much more life. so much more shit to do like you feel

me like I took Vaughn on his first tour like as a main artist like he he performed then I performed you feel me so it's like I always fuck with bro I always believe them you feel me and like when that shit happened it just like it just made me feel like like damn bro you can't take this shit

for granted like this shit coming out let me understand bro your whole life you thinking and I'm sure he thought the very same thing I want to get out of this environment he's out he's a big rapper why go back why do that why continue to do that i feel like i'm not even gonna feel like like this is the truth is just like when that shit in you it's in you like

that shit just it's easy for like you got to really you got to work harder on not doing something to somebody than than anything else you feel i'm saying so it's like i think you feel like you feel like you feel like somebody playing with you it would just do so like you would just How you let them play with you? You're not even supposed to be in that environment. Guess what? Yeah. I make four, five million dollars a year.

Aren't you going to surround yourself because you don't need to be in that environment anymore because those guys are no longer on your level? Now you hang around with people that's on your level. You hang with me. You hang with future. You hang with thug. You hang with those type of people.

Bro, I ain't on this anymore. It's like you got to take a little minute to adjust though. It's not like a snap of a. finger. Okay. Von wasn't, he wasn't a millionaire for years. Right. I'm saying? Like, he still was fresh coming out the streets. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He's getting his money, he's doing what he's doing, but

it takes you a long time to really process that this is my life. Right. You feel I'm saying? So it's like, naturally he really still has a street nigga. So he's going react like how a street react. You feel me? Like, it took me years and years to just be like, shit ain't worth it. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm about to give you a scenario. I was just in

North Carolina, rallies. some dumb ass shit, some niggas walked up on me and, like, tried me in the mall. Like, saying some shit to me, like, yeah. I'm not even going to, like, say the artist or whatever. He walked up to me and talking about another artist. Like, yeah, um, we got this

chain telling him bad back. Like, and I'm like, what the fuck you mean? I don't care about that shit. Like, right? I'm like, what the you're telling me for? That's exactly what I said to him. He's like, yeah. I'm just saying, like, if he want to get it, tell him get up with us. I said, bro, I'm sure they know how they're fine y'all.

and get that shit back if they want to. Yeah, you know, walking off and he said some shit like, yeah, because, nigga, we was just, just telling you, like, bro, you're a little too aggressive. Like, we'd take your shit. I ain't even had no jury on to nothing. I just look back and walked off.

Like, that's one of the hardest things. But you're like, that's one of the hardest things to do to walk away, for real. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I had to grow into that person. Yeah. Like, I know for a fact, I got 10 shopping bags in my hand.

Like, I drop these shopping bags and we'll just tear this whole fucking mall up. Like, for real, for real. I really do that with y'all. It's two of y'all, and it's two of me and my homie, you know what I'm saying? And I had to tell him, like, come on, we're going, bro. It ain't really worth it.

I'm not feeling. I don't have no point to prove for real. Like, you got to really get me out of my element or put your hands on me a cause and physical harm. And I know that y'all really not on that type of time because I just turned my back on y'all and walked out. So if y'all really wanted to do something, y'all here.

If y'all really want to do something, y'all would even do it on top. Exactly. But it's like when I turned around, I never look back literally I never look back to see if they follow me or nothing I really made them part of my whole back And it's like that shit is that's growth like I never that person like because you never give up your six I was never that person for real like I'm not gonna turn around on y'all I'm not gonna just walk off after you just saying you would take my shit I would be like take what what you're talking about what you want to do in here right now right out of the kid not cared about my clothes that I just bought none of this shit you from saying like I had to grow into that person it took years to do that you

feel i'm saying all that to say Vaughn hadn't became that person yet to just like let she go right sweep it under the rug like he couldn't let that yeah like whatever whatever was on his mind was on his mind where he just felt like all right bet i'm feeling to just go do what i got to do knowing that if you live like that you got to always always have both eyes not one eye Both eyes. Three eyes. Are you surprised that they were able to get the drop on him like they did? No, I'm not, because that's just how shit happened.

You know what I'm saying? It happened like that in the blink of the eye. Like super quick. I didn't seen that happen a hundred times, not just to him. You know, like, so, no, I wasn't. I wasn't surprised at all. I was just really just hard broken bad for real. Because like, once shit happened, it's nothing you could do.

Regardless, I have your homies react or whatever. What's done is done. him is already yeah there ain't no coming back exactly so it's like when when you understand that like I didn't seen it so many times so it's like I know and this is just my mentality though to be honest like I always feel like something is going to happen to me anyway when I walk out the house I'm already in fear my life I don't I don't put it I'm not putting it in the air like I don't feel like somebody going to do something to me but I just know the possibilities like it can't happen so that's what keep me on my square right I'm saying

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That ain't, that ain't, that ain't, that ain't, now, it's in me. I just want you to know, it's in me. But I don't want him to come out. I ain't even on that type of time. I don't know to at all, but you got to. And this is the real, the part about it, though, for real. Like, um, I feel like when you become that person, they just pull it at you. Like, especially people who, from where you're from, they, they know how to get it out.

They know how to get it out you. And it's like, it's a full-time job to, like, not react and not crash out, like, let people say stuff. Let people say certain things because I'm always, I always been a kind of guy like, I really go show love. Like, when I'm back home, I do events, I do stuff for the kids, for the community, you know what I'm saying? I go out, I enjoy myself, all my homies who want to come out. We can go to the club and do all that kind of stuff. So I don't respond to negativity because, like, I'm outside too much. And you will see me.

I don't want to bring that type of anything. on myself you feel i'm saying so it's like once you see it you will see stuff it might make you upset you see it stuff on the internet you want to look at the comments and all that shit but you can't really let it affect you because you putting it on you like you're putting too much of that energy on you people will just try to try you and just make a name for they so you find out of seeing it so many times where it's like yeah you could change an elevator say i don't want to be that person no more but you gotta stay sharp you have to you have to Because in the instant.

In an instant it happened. So it's like, you can't. Because they know you, gee. They know you. Bro, that ain't owned him. That's in him. Yeah. He really liked that.

Yeah. And so you like go to go out of your weight. You got people who are really like, know that and crash because they don't got nothing to live for. Right. They like, they don't really even damn. They don't really even damn. Yeah, if he don't give it down by here, he gets less than by Joe. Like, he wants me to do something to him, damn there just so it's like I could, my life up.

I could go to jail or possibly die anything. Like, people really. want you to stoop down at a level a lot like especially coming from Chicago you know I'm saying like I see it a lot I've seen it so many times and what I'm saying by like staying sharp is like you don't have to become the aggressor in a situation but you got to create boundaries like as soon as somebody cross that line you got to take it there that's the only way that it's going to really like resolve in my opinion right somebody crossed that line and say certain shit like my mama always told

me somebody tell you they crazy believe them so it's like if somebody say something to me i'm automatically on radar and i'm ready to like take it to the highest level because it's like why you even trying me i got i got to make it home so we're not finna it's not fin to be no in between either choice between who goes on now to take it yeah if you want to take it there we're going to take it all the way there man or we just not going to take it there at all if i'm saying jeez man i mean we usually like he crazy like play play play crazy or get a check crazy you know they're two different things yeah no for sure no for sure that's definitely like there's two different can't two different can and a lot of people get a check

crazy a lot of people really like you know what I'm saying like and and I seen I know it like in Chicago it's like that place is different like right anybody the craziest looking person you would never think or really do something to you it's like you got to just stay on your square doesn't that get tired yeah yeah I mean I mean I mean because you uh um What was that movie, Bumpy Johnson with a whispers? What a... You know, the one of the movie, yeah. And he's like, he doesn't...

I'm tired. Yes. I'm tired, yeah. That's one of my favorite movies ever. I'm like, bro. I mean, to like, have you ever had a peaceful night's sleep? Can you rest? Can you just lay down and like, go get in a REM sleep?

You know, the only time I really sleep like that is when I'm home with my girl and my kids. Like, for real, even on the road, like, I still had nightmares a lot, bro. Like, nightmares, like, sleep paralysis. Like, it'd be hard for me. Like, my girl would be waking me up sometimes. She's like, man, what's wrong with you? Like, Sean, are you crying in your sleep? You jumping?

Like, you feel in me? Like, all of that kind of stuff. And I hate it, though. I'm not going to lie. I don't like it at all, you feel I'm saying? And I didn't try at all of, you know, I got a real nonprofit where I get therapy to all types of kids. I didn't try therapy myself. I'm still, you know, believe in therapy.

and try to have sessions as much as I can, you know what I'm saying? But it's like it don't really help for real, for real, especially with like sleep and stuff like that. Like I got bad insomnia. I'd be up all night, all night, and I might get a couple hours of sleep. And I feel like, though, in my opinion, the only way is going to kind of like change,

I'm going to have to really retire and not deal with people and not deal with the shit that I deal with on a day. That's a long time. That's a long time. So it's like I probably don't get no good night. to sleep until I'm 50 years old. 55 years old. And don't worry about it.

And then your flatter will get bad and you don't get no good night's sleep. Trust me. You had a friend that reportedly was killed. I think it was shot at a barbershop. Yeah. That's who I, like, that was my best friend. But I call him my little brother who, that's who was mad at me about the show. Oh, okay, okay, okay.

yeah obviously you say that was your best friend you called you know like your little brother yeah when you got that news what what some of the emotions you started to feel um honestly that was probably one of the worst days in my life for sure like i i never felt that like shock and hurt and disappointment like when it happened and you know it's so crazy He probably, he might have got killed 11 a.m. Chicago time, so it's like 9 a.m. in L.A. I'm fresh coming from the studio. Me and him texting paragraphs at 4 a.m. Like, our last conversation was really just us telling each other how much we love each other. Like, man, bro, you know, I don't want nothing from you. I never wanted nothing from you. I just want you to, like, win. I just want the best for you. Not nothing from you.

That was the last conversation we heard talking like that, you know what I'm saying? I'm on a couch, sleep at home, and this girl hit me, like, I'm so sorry about your brother. It's this girl that do, like, philanthropy work in Chicago, you know what I'm saying? And her brother worked at the barbershop, so she knew already. Right. As soon as it happened, you feel me. And I'm like, what are you talking about?

She's like, I'm so sorry about him. I'm like, what? I got mad. I ain't even say nothing. I didn't, like, respond back to her, and nothing. and then right after that I get a call from one of my homies like yeah look great just got shot in the barbershop and it's like I just lost it I got up and I started praying I had my knees to start praying like please please please just let them pull through this shit like pretty please you know what I'm saying and at that moment I couldn't think straight like the only thing I could do is get on the plane in Chicago like I got on the plane like I had to it like I didn't even feel right being in LA and

You know, he just passed away, so it's like, I had to, like, really, it was just all I felt was, like, anger. Like, I wanted to do something, like, retaliate, you know what I'm saying? Like, me being who I am, G. Herbo or Star, really went to Chicago and was just, like, I lost my mind for it because, like, him, he ain't never, like, that wasn't him, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, don't get me wrong, yeah, he's a street dude, he was in the streets with us, but that just wasn't him. And I really felt like somebody did that to him to hurt me. Like, that was the whole thing. And I said it a lot. And, you know, it's so crazy.

His grandma, who I call my grandma, like, that's my grandma. I still talk to her as much as possible. I go see whatever she need. Like, that's really, to his family, I'm the closest thing to him, like, that they even have. Right. You feel I'm saying? And, you know, his kids is. my god kid so it's like that's my real deal family i lived with them i'm i lived in their

house um when i ain't had nothing um it's like i felt like i was responsible for us death for a long time and it happened in 2021 and i i didn't even i ain't used to drink at all like i ain't used to drink shan for sure like i didn't drink i wasn't even i was just like niggas just smoked your hat like i yeah me either but we make it up a lost time sure I was one of them guys were like I drink once a year twice a year maybe if I'm saying and one cup would give me drugs this I third cup right now you feel I ain't no rookie no more but I'm saying that to say like and I don't know I don't even like bro I don't even care like I'm gonna just be honest like when I

when I went to Chicago I went like on time and like I took a hoodie I have I I had packed all type of crazy shit. I was feeling to go to Chicago. I was just like, I was ready to throw my life away. I was ready to throw my life away, for real. I drove my track haul to one of my men's career in L.A., who I was in business with, and just talking to him. And I had the suitcase in the back of my track hole.

And who he's upstairs talking, and he's like, man, you need a drink. gave me a drink I took it and I'm like a real like I don't believe in coincidence like I'm a real spiritual person um when I'm on my head I'm like bro I can't believe I'm gonna go back to Chicago that's when I know he was dead that's when I felt like he was dead already I'm like I'm trying to go back to Chicago this shit like I really was ready to like just throw my life way I really didn't give a for real when that shit happened I looked out the window I seen like 200 birds flying like just right out the window like so a flock of birds so many birds I'm like damn man little bro that's but to go to heaven like you feel like in my head I'm like

fucking man I ain't even going to go back and crash up like me seeing them birds go up and right it just like it kind of calmed me down yeah in a way like for real even the first like literally the very first when it happened I ain't even got on the plane yet. I'm still, like, I took, like, three shots, a Hennessy. And I'm still, in my head, I'm still angry, of course, but I'm like, damn, I'm looking at these birds when I'm thinking about this shit, like, damn, man, you know, it just fuck my head up, like, I ain't from a crash out.

But I get on the plane still, and I left the whole suitcase. That's how you know my mind racing. I left the whole suitcase in my track house. I got in a black truck to the airport. I didn't even grab a suitcase out of my bag, I mean, out of my car. and I get on the plane I go to sleep and I swear to God

I had a dream that me, him and his second bait mama he got to two bay mama me him and his second bay mama was just walking around the neighborhood going door to door asking who kill him

and he with me me him and his bay mom just asking like yeah who killed bro but he right there with me asking who killed him you see what I'm saying it's like I don't know that shit my head up and I got off the plane

like damn I just had this crazy-ass dream like I go straight to his grandma house and see her start crying hugging and shit I'm just like man you ain't like you ain't got to worry about nothing like if I'm saying like yeah he gone but you got me I promise I'm always be there like you know what I'm saying I'm gonna be there for his kids like I took on that role and responsibility like no matter what how big how much my career is hectic like I'm will always be there for his family you know what I'm saying It's like I can't do that if I crash up. So it's like I just took on that responsibility of being the closest thing to him, you know, for his family.

And I'm grateful for that. I appreciate that when I hear that because that was somebody that I love unconditionally. And I know his family loved me. And it's like I feel like they, when they tell me that like, man, like you're the closest thing we have to him. Like we need you. Like these kids need you. So it's like I just took on that role. of course a part of me is gone forever and I feel like no matter what I do or how much success

I get I never really could enjoy it for real because I always picture him wanting to share it with being here you feel I'm saying like I was thinking about when I get 30 and 40 if I ever win a Grammy just certain shit it's like it's not going to really feel right because I wanted to enjoy it with him and I always get them little thoughts and flashbacks in my head and stuff like that but it turned me to a different person man I fell into alcoholism crazy I was down in a whole fifth a day like by myself literally every single day like I'm glad you pulled out of that yeah I was stretched out I turned into a totally different person like and I just had I just had my second son like I turned into like man it was I was just like a different person like I

really felt like I couldn't be a father like the way I wanted to be like I was was so stressed out and so depressed was like I didn't want to be home because I didn't want my girl to see me that week like I was at my weakest and my lowest like to be outside and ride around to go cry go to clubs and just do stupid as shit just to get my mind off of what was what I was really thinking about for real but I definitely pulled out of it and one of the conversations that helped me was a conversation with his grandma and she told me the real she told me the ugly that I really didn't want to

she like she really looked at me and said yeah my grandson died because of you everybody really know that he got killed because somebody wanted to hurt me like oh yeah this her best friend like gonna do something to him right you feel me and when she told me that she like because she's seeing me just slipping through the cracks getting drunk at that she like you better not your life up like all we got is you like you better make something of your life i know how much he loved you believe in you like i don't okay you we hurt you You're all hurting, but it's like, you're not going to let him daff or nothing. You better be the best you could beat.

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