Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Gillie Da Kid Part 1

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

Join us for an unforgettable episode of Club Shay Shay as Shannon Sharpe sits down with the one and only Gillie Da Kid! A Philly legend, hip-hop icon, media personality, and die-hard Eagles fan, Gillie brings his signature energy, humor, and wisdom to the show in a conversation packed with passion, inspiration, and plenty of laughs. Gillie reflects on his journey from rapper to respected entrepreneur, sharing how he and his cousin Wallo built Million Dollaz Worth of Game into one of the hottest podcasts in the game. He dives into his deep-rooted love for the Philadelphia Eagles, detailing what it meant for him to run out of the tunnel with the team and the emotional rush of representing his city on that level. From his relationships with Nick Sirianni, Jeffrey Lurie, and Howie Roseman to his viral Sports livestream, Gillie breaks down why sports unite people like nothing else and how Philly's energy is different when the Eagles are winning. Plus, Gillie hilariously recalls his pregame rituals—including dancing to "Candy" by Cameo and "Blow the Whistle" by Too Short—to hype up the fans and troll opposing teams. With stories about movie roles with Ving Rhames, Philly’s underdog mentality, and the sacrifices he’s made to get where he is today, this episode is filled with raw, unfiltered motivation. Whether you’re a fan of hip-hop, football, or just great storytelling, this is one conversation you won’t want to miss! #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's like one of the only times in life where if you're black, you're white, together like nothing else. Because we all root for one common goal. That's like one of the only times in life where if you're black, you're white, you're purple, brown, pink, pink. We throw religion, we throw orientation, we throw all that at the women. We root for one common goal, a Super Bowl. That bring everybody together. Right.

All my life, been grinding all my life. Sacrifices, hustle pay the price. Want a slice, got to roll the dice. That's why all my life I been grinding all my life, sacrifice Hustle paid the price, want a slice Got the roller dice, that's why All my life, I been grinding all my life All my life, been grinding all my life Sacrifice, hustle paid the price, want a slice Got the roller dice, that's why All my life, I been grinding all my life Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Shashe. I am your host, Shannon Sharp.

I'm also the proprietor of Club Shashe. Stopping by for conversation on the drink today is a larger than life personality. He's made a name for himself as a rapper and now a media personality. One of hip hop's most captivating talents and respected artist, MC, songwriter, host, actor, social media influencer, philanthropist. He's a lucre, he's a shrewd businessman, a cultural icon, an unmatched force in his community, a prominent figure in the world of hip hop,

sports, and entertainment. He puts on for his city with passion, a pioneer in the Philadelphia rap culture, a Philly legend, a diehard Eagles fan, a loving father, and a husband. From the city of brotherly love, he goes by the name sometimes of Damien Gillard, Shay Gill, just like Xander,

Manu Gnobely, Shay Gill, oh, dear, Michael Gill Jordan. Here are your ladies and gentlemen, Philly's own, Gillie the Kid. Hey, I'll tell you what to do. God, whoever wrote that, whoever put that shit together right there, that's a BMS bad motherfucker, man. Gillie! Yes. Whoever wrote that, whoever put that shit together right there,

that's a BMF bad motherfucker. Gilly, bro thank you for joining us man, God. I appreciate you very much. Listen to me, hey, ladies and gentlemen, he been on work for the time he still be here. Let's talk this late. Bro, from what you've been able to accomplish with Million Dollar with the Game,

with your boy, with your cousin, Wallo, man, thank you. Giving us hope, giving us inspiration, because I saw you guys do it. I said, hey, I can do it too. And you're doing it. Shit, you did it. Done it, still doing it. We gonna leave you a bottle of that, cause you don't wanna turn up.

Appreciate that, bro. Yeah, that's smooth. Yeah, it wasn't none of that. you don't wanna turn up. You don't wanna turn up. Appreciate that, bro. Yeah, that's smooth. You know what I mean? It wasn't none of that. No, no, no, no, no. Gilly, I'm gonna give you fair warning. We are recording this before the game. Yes.

It's Saturday, the game is Sunday. This is going to air Wednesday. So boy, I sure hope y'all do that thing because if you don't, they're gonna tear you up in the comments. Yeah, but you know, you saying if. You know? Yeah. If my sister had a penis she would have been my brother. Fortunately she was my sister. Alright so check this out. The Eagles are undefeated when you run out of the tunnel

with the team. Yes they are. Are you running out on Saturday? I haven't gotten that call yet. You ain't got that call yet? No, I ain't get that call yet. When you first ran out the tunnel, and you're bringing the team out, and 70,000 fans, and you feel that rush, how did it come about? How did that happen, and what is that rush like when you run out there with the team? Well, you know, like a lot of people just really getting on, but to me,

but if you last year when we was in the playoffs, we wasn't playing that good. I got the call from the team to come down to the locker room last year, it's all over the internet where I went down last year and talked to the team before the playoffs. So I have a relationship with the Eagles with, you know, with Nick Sirianni, best coach in the league, with Jeffrey Laurie, shout out to Jeffrey, his son, the whole family, the best owner in the league, shout out to Heidi Roseman, the best GM in the league, and Big Dom. Big Dom's my guy. So when I was doing what I was doing all year with my Killie on Sports livestream, and they

just kept winning winning and every week they had to see me dance. Big Dom figured who else is better to bring them out the tunnel than Gilly. What does that mean? You're born, you're raised in Philly. What does that mean for a Philly kid to bring the hometown team out of the tunnel

and have all those fans cheering? I mean, it means everything to me because, you know, since I can remember in my life, I only missed three Eagle games. Really? Yeah, one of them was a blackout game. We didn't sell enough tickets in two of the games. I was in the Dominican Republic with Vin Grahams filming a movie. So to me, it's like, you know, we come from a poor city, man.

When the Eagles win, the morale in the city is better. When the Eagles lose, the morale is down. You think about all your problems, there's no escape. The Eagles is an escape, you know what I mean? So when I ran out the tunnel with them, and the funniest shit is, I run out the tunnel, and I drop down to the ground, I start doing the Brian Dog.

Ah! You hit the Wolverine on him! Yeah, yeah, I hit the Wolverine on him, and I get up, let's go! I run to the front of the line, they're about to announce the players now, and I'm with some of the players that run out first, and I turn around, I look at Kenny Gainwell,

and the tears come down my face. And I say, I love this shit. And Kenny looked at me like, you knew you not playing? Yeah, I was about to say the same thing. You not into this? You not playing? What the fuck you doing? Hey, hey, you not in there. You not playing?

What the fuck you doing? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then they announce the players. I'm out there. All the players running out. Then we run over to the sideline,

and the national anthem is playing. And that shit's bawling down my face, to the point they got to the end of the song, and I just had to have a conversation with myself. I said, what the are you doing? Get it together. You're not fucking. You got caught up in emotions like that?

You about to go to sleep. You not tackling nobody. You not getting no receptions. Chill out. And I just had to wipe my face and be like, in my mind I'm just talking to myself. I'm like, you're trippin'. All season long, for the game you played, Cameo's Candid before the game. After the game, Blow the Whistle, Too Short.

How did you, I mean, obviously, were you a Cameo fan or Too Short fan? How do you come up with the songs that you started with, Candid by Cameo, Blow the Whistle, Too Short at the end? Well, Blow the Whistle, Too Short at the End. Well, Blow the Whistle has always been one of my favorites. That's your anthem? Yes, that's just a song. That's a great vibe. And I picked Just Like Candy because I was letting the other teams know,

y'all are sweet. You know what I mean? So whoever we playing that week, the chains, just like candy. I'll see it in your wild. Y'all sweet. We're gonna whoop y'all ass this week. Okay. And that's how that started off.

So, you know, tomorrow would have been first thing in the morning. Kansas City Chiefs. Just like Kanday. Yeah, we got something for y'all. But you're dancing. You're dancing electric slide to cha-cha. So, I mean, what's going on when you're like, you're doing this and you're getting in your... Because it seems like that's your routine. the lecture slide, the cha-cha. So, I mean, what's going on when you're like, you're doing this and you're getting in your,

because it seems like that's your routine, like players and players athletes, we have a routine that we go through, and we feel that if we go through this routine, everything's gonna be okay. Do you feel like if you don't do that routine, everything to the T, something might go wrong with you? You're right, hell yeah.

Even my broom guy that flew out, bring that broom. Don't bring no other brums. So you just couldn't buy a broom down here? I can't, but why would we do that when we undefeated with him walking out with that broom? You better bring that dirty little broom you got from the house that's coming

to the Super Bowl with us. Where's your slide? Let me see your slide. What you got? Wait, wait, wait. You know, first thing, let me just tell you something. First is from here, right? Yeah, you, wait. You know, first thing, let me just tell you something. First it's from here, right? Yeah, you can, you...

You know what I mean? And then you bring it down. And then it's this, it's from here. This is an old school dance called the E-matic in Philly. Right, you used to see Kevin Hart. Then you bring it together. One, two, three. One, two. One, two, three. One, two, one, two, three. Then you crawls and then you crawls

and get it right to the Conor McGregor. Hey! So. What if you saw, let's say for the sake of argument. Yes. AJ Brown scores a touchdown. And he hits that. He's an all time legend.

He's going down an alltime hall of fame of legends. I saw where you say any racism in Philly when you're a neighbor. Jake Broom, man, Swain is in your videos. So how long have you known Jake? Well, we moved into the neighborhood, right? Mm-hmm. Well, that's our studio house. Okay.

That's like our office where we work out as a content house. So when we first moved in, Jake used to sit on the porch, the older guy, so it'd just be like, hi, just keep it moving. So he's like the mayor and do the right thing. You remember the man sitting on the chair? Okay, okay, okay. So I'm pulling up in different cars.

I might be in my 1941 one day. I might be in my different cars. I might be in my 1941 one day. I might be in my 74 Chevy. I might be in my 89 Chevy. I might be in a Beamer. I might be in a BMW truck. Waldo's in a Lamborghini. He's in a Porsche. He's in his Maybach.

He in his 63 Benz. He in his Denali truck. In the course of a month, he's seen us pull up in like 12 different cars. So one day, and then we get packages delivered every day of a month, he's seen us pull up in like 12 different cars. So one day, and then we get packages delivered every day from different sponsors. So one day I'm sitting there and I'm saying,

I said to myself, I said, cuz, if I was a neighbor on this block, I would think we was fucking selling drugs. So I said, let me go introduce myself to you. Because when we pull up, we see them, they out there like, what the fuck's going on? They come here every day in different cars and just chill. They don't say anything to nobody.

Right. So I want to introduce myself, no, this is who I am. I said, because I probably figured you guys probably thought we were selling drugs. And Jake said, we definitely thought you guys were selling drugs and Jake said we definitely thought you guys were selling drugs. So when Jake at 75 said that, oh you my guy, you're my f***ing guy because you kept it real, you didn't try to sugarcoat it. You let us know the whole block thought you guys were selling drugs. We couldn't believe the cars you were pulling up in. So now he knows who we are, the block is comfortable. I'm gifting the block gifts on holidays, right? I don't celebrate the holidays and then take just so happen to walk over while I was dancing one day

Say sports Why how how does and why does sports bring people together like nothing else? Because we all rooting for one common goal people together like nothing else. Because we all rooting for one common goal. That's like one of the only times in life where if you black, you white, you purple, brown, pink, pink. We throw religion, we throw orientation, we throw all that at the women. Rooting for one common goal.

A Super Bowl. That bring everybody together. Right. You feel what I'm saying? Yes. Go to Draft King Sportsbook app and make your pick. New DraftKings customers can bet $5 to get $200 instantly in bonus bet. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app.

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and responsible gaming resources. Why is sports, you know, cause eligibility restrictions, terms, and responsible gaming resources. Why is sports so, you know, because I hear, I've never lived in Philly or anything, but I hear everybody says, Philly fans, they're so passionate about the Eagles, about the Phillies, about the 76ers, about their, what makes the Philly fan base so ravenous about their teams?

This, to be all the way honest with you, we just a rude city. We a bunch of, the mob did a bunch of jerk off. You hear me? We idiots, you hear me? And we really take pride in being idiots. Like we don't give a, you come to Philly and you lose, walking

out that stadium is going to be one of the roughest rides you had if you got on another team's jersey. Wow. Man, y'all already won the game. Let's call them out. Man, let them go about their business. Our mentality is you thought you were going to win? Yes, that's why they came. Absolutely, they thought you were going to win. That's what makes us idiots. Come on. Come on.

Come on. Explain Philly to people that's never been to Philly, but you know, it's, it's, you guys boo Santa. Who booed the man bringing presents? Right. Who booed Santa? He didn't bring the right presents. He wanted the Super Bowl. Y'all booed Ben Simmons?

How y'all do that to Ben, Ben? Because he didn't bring the right present. He wasn't present. We keep looking at him stat sheets. Right. This motherfucker got eight rebounds and seven points. That's bad? That's bad?

That's horrible. How have the Eagles brought the city together this year? I mean, it's brought the whole city together, whole area, and I just don't want to say Philly because Delaware, a lot of Delaware's Eagle fans, a lot of South Jersey is Eagle fans, so it's brought the Tri-State area together. Man, we just been kickingin' ass, man.

Have you thought about what happens if you guys don't win? No. Did you go to the last Super Bowl when they played Kansas City? Yes, I was right there. And let me ask you a question. When you ever was playing in the Super Bowl,

did you think about not winning? Nah. Did you think about- But I could impact the game. You came. Shh, I already impacted. So, if you, you gotta understand, I don't run them out of the locker room

during the Super Bowl, and we lose. Or they gonna be mad. They gonna say, it's cause Kelly didn't run them out of the locker room. Because the one thing Nick said to me, Nick said, I need the greatest coach in the league right now. He said, you're 3 and 0. He understand.

But his superstition is in sports. My energy is different. Yeah. And I'm used to routine. So every time they brought me in their locker room, it's the same thing. The coach come up first. Love you, coach.

He walk out, then the players come up. And then I lose my mind. We playing for the name on the front of that jersey and the back of that jersey. And then I call out certain players, your family watching, what you gonna do? Your girlfriend watching, man, what you gonna do? Your mother's watching, what you gonna do?

Good players is made during the regular season. Legends is made in the playoffs. Who the f*** gonna be legendary today? We playing for the name that's on the front of that jersey, in the back of that jersey. But who gonna make the name on the back of that jersey somebody today? That's what I need to know.

We playing Philadelphia football today. That's smart, tough, fast, and physical. Everybody to the ball. By the time we leave out that locker room, they ready. They running through the wall. They ready. You got to understand, I walked in the locker room, and Jalen Carter was like this at his locker room.

He was one of the last people out of the locker room. And Connor Barwin walked me in. And he didn't even know who was talking to him and I said it's not a planet earth that can block you he turned around and seen it was messed out I don't give up if they brought an alien down from Mars Saturn and Pluto he can't block you you understand what I'm saying he said I got you OG the minute we walked out there locker room, Connor Barber said, you just got the team a sack today. And that kid had a few sacks.

So the motivation is different. You get the call. I don't know who called you, whether it's Big Dom, I don't know if it's Mick Sirianni. And they say, Gilly, you're going to run them out today. They're super bowl. 100 million people watching. Everybody in Philly is watching.

What would that, what would that, it's one thing to run them out in the regular season or the post season. It's something entirely different because they chronicle these games. Super Bowl 59, the Eagles and the Chiefs. And Gilly, Wallo call you the mascot, but I eat them. You know, that's cool. That's not an ass make up. and Gilly, Wallo call you the mascot but I eat them.

You know that's cool. What would that moment mean to the Philly kid that grew up and watched all these Eagles games and he's running the team out in Super Bowl 59 onto the field to do battle? The biggest thing would have to be getting me there to the Super Bowl because the minute I get that call I might pass the out clear hello this is the outfit that you normally wear when you run out there absolutely what you how you go how you wearing no this is a regular Vic Jersey right here is that an authentic big jersey or that's the one that? This is authentic.

The one I got says Mike Gilvic on it. It's a little different. It's a little different. No, you got Mike Ulvic and you got Mike Gilvic. Right. It's a little different. Hold on. You said, I saw where Saquon gave Wallo.

Wallo said, look man, I ain't really no fan. I'm a fan of the team that's winning. So if you win it, I'm youro said, look man, I ain't really no fan, I'm a fan of the team that's winning. So if you win and I'm your boy, you lose and I ain't got no time. If you start, if I root for you and you start to lose, I'm gonna find me another team. Sequon said, man, come on Wallo, man, you bandwagon hopping.

Right, and you know what's so crazy? This Sequon, first year here, and he knew that. He been here for 11 games, 12 games, oh, you like the Eagles now? He was so thrown off that Sequin said that he was like. How you know that? Like yeah, like. You been talking to Gillie?

Yeah, I had to let him know, man. He's a real fan, man. Your sixes, man. Yes. Gillie, I mean, y'all brought in, Mac is still playing out of his mind. Yes. Joel Embiid has been Nick. I mean he played in the Olympics and then he messed up again and so he missed the time. Y'all signed PG and that hadn't worked out like you guys thought it

would. What's going on with your 76's bro? You want me to sugarcoat it or you want me to? Nah, we don't sugarcoat nothing here here. This ain't no beignet. Yeah, yeah. I feel like... we made some wrong decisions, number one, with signing PJ. Wrong decision? I mean, until you proved me wrong.

Mm-hmm. You know, we... Would you prefer to keep Tobias? No. Because at the end of the day, Tobias was under so much scrutiny, it was going to be hard for him to play for the Sixers anyway. You know what I mean? So, but what PG has come and brought to the team so far, it don't look like we got our money's worth.

You know what I mean? Yes. It's like, you're looking like you're having trouble beating people off the dribble. Everybody's standing in front of you. You're taking a bunch of contested shots. Everything is contested. So I don't know, but I know he's coming off an injury too,

right? So I'm hoping, hopefully, that he can get back to, you know what I mean, where he was. But as of right now, you know, it don't look good. And as of right now for Joe Ellen B, it don't look good as well because you played the whole summer with the USA team. And you was Nick going into the playoffs last year.

Why would you do? I didn't hear about you missing no practices. Uh-oh. I didn't hear about you missing nothing. Nothing that had to do with the USA team, so don't tell me you gonna get out there and you gonna tap dance for the USA team and gold medal. But when it come to the Philadelphia 76ers,

you played 421 games and you missed 404. Think about that. So you feeling some type of way about it? I feel, I feel, I feel, I this? See, I'm about a person, I'm about being reliable. The one thing you can't say, you can say you're a great player, you can say when you're on the courts you're unstoppable, you can say MVP worthy every year. But the one thing you can't say is you reliable.

You still trust the process? I've been stopped trusting the process. You know what I mean? I think we need... At a certain point, you got to say we might need to go with a different process. Wow. When you got three max players that's supposed to be superstars

and only one of them performing. Mm. And we got, like, we like 12th in the East. Mm-hmm. Come on, man. How can I trust the process? We saw Luka get traded. Yes.

Would you be OK? How would you feel if the 76ers moved your L&B? I mean, at this point, I think I'm speaking for every Sixer fan. We wouldn't have no, we couldn't feel no type of way. Because like I said, when you go at games played versus games not played, it's damn near equal. So we get to see you on the court just as much as we get to see you off the court.

There's no difference. So at the end of the day, it's like, it's to the point where we never know if you gonna play or not. Who wanna play or not? I'm the biggest Joel and B fan ever. I go on all these podcasts and I let everybody know nobody could with big. Nobody. He was averaging 35 points last year but then the games displayed is so do you

believe the opportunity to pass you back because you have a couple of years that Ben Simmons was there and he was an all-star Ben was playing at an all-star was he was an all-star. Ben was playing as an all-star. Well, he was an all-star. All of NBA defensive player, Joe Ellen Bede, I mean, it's always been, he's kind of nicked at the most inopportune, at the wrong time, and so he's kind of limping into the playoffs. Do you feel that you guys have missed that opportunity?

You had the Hawks down 3-1, and you let them come all the way back again. Do you feel your opportunity to pass you by now? I mean, I feel like with this team right now, our opportunity is whether Joel Embiid is healthy or whether he's not healthy. That's what it all comes down to. If we get a Joel Embiid that's healthy, we can beat anybody.

But the problem is he's never healthy. Yes, and you don't get healthier as you get older. Right. Knees get a little tender, feet get tender, hips get all fucked up. You caught a lot of flack because you had LeBron ranked over the Philly kid, rest his soul, Kobe. Yes. You still feel LeBron is a better player than Kobe?

Yes. I feel like if LeBron James is the best player we ever seen in the world, if we never seen Michael Jordan play. So you got Jordan ranked over LeBron. That's the only player that you got over LeBron. Yes. Okay, let me just ask you this question. Right. If me and you both came in a league at 18, Yes. Okay, let me just ask you this question. Right? If me and you both came in a league at 18,

and I averaged 20 at 18, and you averaged 6.7, and I averaged more assists than you, more rebounds than you, I'm the fastest player, the 5,000, 10,000, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, the fastest player. We came in the league at the same time. How could you be better than me? We both got the chips.

Matter of fact, you wasn't even the best player on your team at one time. I never walked into a locker room and wasn't the best player on my team. I got drafted number one. I went to a team that won 13 games. Do you think that these grown ass men in this locker room thought this 18-year-old kid was going to come in there and make a difference? They didn't. No. But I did. Because the next year, we won 30-something games. So what are we talking?

I'm not taking anything away from Kobe's greatness. But what are we talking about? This kid had the most pressure on him out of anybody in the history of the game. Right. Front of Sports Illustrated, 10th grade, chosen one. They said, he can play in the league right now when he's 10th grade.

Everybody's like, what? He probably could have. Kobe Bryant backed up Eddie Jones at one time. LeBron James wouldn't have backed Eddie Jones up in 11th grade. What? What? And Eddie is my man.

Yes. But LeBron James is different. Think about that. Yeah. He came into the league as an 18-year-old kid and probably was the eighth heaviest person in the league. Mm-hmm. But probably was the fastest person in the league. But probably was the fastest person in the league.

I mean, so it's not taking anything away from Kobe, but Kobe used to go to an NBA locker room and put a Robin uniform on. Shaq was Batman. LeBron never showed up and put a Robin uniform on in any locker room ever. That's the difference. pens, no insurance or saving cards needed and you will see results faster. Lose and on average a 15% of your weight in just one year. This formula from Eli Lilly targets two key hormones to curb hunger with less nausea than other treatments. Your role-affiliated provider will help you figure out if GLP-1s are right for

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Best rapper, Hooper. Mm-hmm. Dirk, J. Cole, Breezy, Quavo, 2 Chainz, Game, Master P, Davies, Cam'ron, and Maze. Mm-hmm. Now. I would probably say Davies. Better than Breezy.

No, Breezy's good too. Breezy. But, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. The person I'm putting number one, NLE Choppa. Really? Yeah.

He can really play. NLE Choppa is Really? Yeah. He can really play. You know, you- NLE Choppa is the only person that I played against in a celebrity game where I had 27, he had 27. He matching me, bucket for bucket. Like- You know, Master P almost made the lead. Yeah, but Master P knees a little tender.

Ha ha ha! My OG hips ain't looking the same. I mean, it's back up. So one on one, you and Choppa, who taking it? The 15, we going to 15. Well, I already beat him twice in the big three. No, one on one, we going one on one. We guarding each other, so he got all the work. Gilly, you ain he got all the work.

Gilly, you ain't got no, Gilly. Everybody know when it come to the OG. So we got a 40 and under. So we got a 40 and over. I don't play no over 35. Don't disrespect my game like that. I ain't playing no park cars. Like I would not play you. That's the easy money.

What about five 10? So we going five 10. We got to put a height limit and a. Hold on. This footage out there of me cooking lethal shooter. He's six four. I don't play no games. He's mainly a shooter He didn't really know one on one. That's what I am. I'm a shooter. No, you play you play. No, I'm a shooter Yeah, me I'm open But you are three times time big three celebrity champ. MVP. You gonna win it again?

They brought the professor this year for me. Oh, he gave you that word? He got there and realized I signed up for some shit. Why they don't let you play in the NBA celebrity game? Because it's an easy MVP for me. They know it. It's too easy. Because, and an easy MVP for me. They know it. It's too easy. Because, and then honestly,

I'm not even hyped to play in an NBA celebrity game because that's all politics. You feel me? Yeah. 90% of the people out there can't play. Right. So it's like, oh, you just got the right, you got the right publicist, that's all.

That's why you, you never played basketball in your life. Why would you be playing in this game? So that's about politics, man. And that's the easy MVP trophy for me. I'ma stay with the Negro League. You believe you can beat Jamal Crawford in a one-on-one? Yes. Man, stop playing!

All right. I'm just saying, Jamal, why you ducking me? That man is a three-time sixth man of the year. I've been calling him. Yeah, and he got 639,000 miles on them f----n' knees. They're done. He ain't done. They're done. The man will cook you.

Uh-huh. Why he ain't done? 50- He hasn't accepted my challenge. I talked to him. He said, me and my son gonna cook you. Why he ain't, 50 points, 50. He hasn't accepted my challenge. I talked to him, he said, me and my son gonna get you. All right, well let's do this. I get your son out the way first, just to let you know

this is a grown ass man game. Sit down little JJ. I ain't playing with you man. JJ sit your little ass down man. But you want that. I want, yeah, you know what I want. For, 50 points, four different teams. The oldest man to score 50. Dad, 50 points, four different teams. The oldest man in the school, 50.

Damn, that's, let me tell you something. The one thing you know, the one thing we don't ever operate off is no Feel Back Thursday shit. Yeah, man. We ain't operating off no Feel Back Thursday shit. No shit. We don't wanna know about the Benjyann 89. What you doing now?

I'm deep fried barbecue bacon bacon, young motherfuckers, right now, 48. I'm taking, one on one, I'm taking Breezy over you. I'm just saying. I'll cook Breezy. Wait, hold on. You want to pull up the footage of me at Breezy House? You could, right?

Oh, okay. You cooked it? Deep fried, barbecue baked, rotisserie chicken. Uh oh. No, but Breezy, Breezy, Breezy got games. Yeah, he can really play. Breezy can really play. I got one for you.

Cause you were talking reckless, and he say he ain't gonna let him loose on you just yet cause he got other things to do. Bronnie, Bronnie cook you. See, see let me just tell you something. I let Rich Ball get away with that, right? Cause Rich my man, Rich used to run around in Philly a little bit.

Bronte. You're too little. No, no, no. Athletic. Jump high. Shoot. I'm talking about, you know where he done got me at? It's the reason why I wear a big hat, man.

Big thing. Every time Bronnie score. You right. Do that right there. But you got to understand. If me and Jamal Crawford play, or me and Bronnie play one on one, right? I'm 48 years old, right?

If they beat me 15 to 9, I won. You let somebody's grandfather score nine times on you? Nah, I don't think you get nine on Brown. I think you get like two. Nah, two. 15 to two. Ain't nobody ever beat me by two points. 15 to two.

Nah. You're all you're going to do is back you down, post you up. No, he run about that six-four wingspan. Man, you ain't got to a three-point competition, and you backed out. I let Rich... You know, Rich is one of them dudes who... You know, we got some business ventures going on. You don't want to ruin that?

Yeah, I don't want to fuck that up. We don't want to... Rich my guy. You know, after we closed the venture, then I get him out to get the shit the fuck down, Rich. I think, well, we in negotiations, and we going back and forth then I get him out to get the shit the fuck down, Rich. I think, but while we in negotiations, are we going back and forth? I let Rich get that one. If Q would let you play in the big three,

you play in the big three. I'm gonna play in the big three, but Q won't let me. Because you gotta understand, think about this, right? I played three big three games, right? Every game I hit a four pointer and at least three three pointers, right? Every game I hit a four-pointer and at least three three-pointers, right? Yeah.

Mary O'Thomas played a whole big three season and he hit a four-pointer. Man, why you, why he catching strange? I'm just saying. I'm just saying. What's my other man with the podcast? The point guard, Jeff G. Played a whole big three season. Now you gonna talk about you and Cook Teague? You ain't finna cook my 520, guy. I'm just, he running from me. He keep calling me, he keep talking about what we gonna do,

but every time I'm trying to set up the game, they not playing. Teague. I'm telling them, How's this? You know this going straight to Instagram, we doing this live. We not doing no filming where we gotta edit shit.

I don't need to edit shit, I get six seven buckets in a row step your ass up and then you got to deal with the mouth that's the thing they can't deal with oh so you were trying to talk about the game no that's what I do that's what I do you better step up oh you didn't step up. Oh, you didn't step up. But see, Bronnie, you ain't gonna be getting that shot off. Man, you see Bronnie throwing folks stuff out of there. I got a jump shot. Yeah, he did it up right there. I know how to get to my shot.

Right there. Young Kobe D skills. Bronnie is the truth. He's gonna develop into a great player. But the things I can teach him, it would accelerate his process, that's all I'm saying. develop into a great player. But the things I could teach him, it would have accelerated his process, that's all I'm saying. But you did get a basketball scholarship.

Yeah. What happened? Did Walu tell you what happened? No, Walu didn't tell me what happened. I got you here. Walu didn't tell me I got you. When you said that, what happened? It's like I know some details of it.

Well, I was a young reckless kid. The coach didn't like you? Nah, the coach loved me. Shout out to Coach Zeke, loved me. Okay. And during the summertime I had got into something of an armed robbery type of situation. I had something like. So I'm like, cause I changed my life brother.

Yeah, okay, I get it. I'm trying to make it look good. And you f*** that up. Like I got sponsors and shit brother. So, and I'm trying to make my, you know, but sponsors understand that I changed my life. You did. We're talking about 30 years ago.

You know what I mean? Yes. And rest in peace to Alan Bunch. You know what I mean? Was a kid that was with me that lost his life. And I got kicked out of college college and that's when rapping started. Right. And it's one of the worst things in my life.

If you got that skill though, Gillie, you had a skill, you got a scholarship to play basketball. How would you get jammed up doing an arm-wrestling? No, I'm in college. I know what I'm saying. I'm actually in my sophomore year. Yes. But you got to understand, you growing up in an arm-wrestling. No, I'm in college. I know what I'm saying. I'm actually in my sophomore year. Yes. But you got to understand, you growing up in the ghetto, right?

Yes. And I didn't, me and my mom didn't really have the best relationship when I was younger. So I moved out of my mom's house at 17 years old. I'd never been back. I'm 48 years old. You feel what I'm saying? So I had an apartment off of campus. I went to school and the assumption was that

I had family members that looked out, that, you know that. Because I would leave, come home, I would give a while-o, who was my little cousin. We would go do some crazy shit, and then I'd go back up to the school. But I had an apartment off campus. So I would come home, go back up to school. Oh, go play basketball tournaments.

My schoolwork never was a problem. Go home, go back up to school. So when this happened, they had me on the front of the Daily News. They said, Cabrini basketball star lived his double life. Damn. And then it talked about how I went to college. I was productive.

I was on the team. I started as a freshman. But then it also talked about how I got caught up in some. You jacket folk. Right. So I got caught up in some... You jacket folk. Right. So I got kicked out of college, and then it was a little rough. Do you remember the day that you... August 22, 1996.

The day my homie got killed during an armed robbery. Rest in peace, Alan Bunch. Love you, brother. I always will represent you. Shout out to his mother, because one of the hardest days of my life was going to his funeral, because... he was a kid that went to college with me.

And he was... he didn't come from that shit. And when I told him what it was that I did, he didn't even believe the shit. But then as he started hanging with me during the summertime, And when I told him what it was that I did, he didn't even believe the shit. But then as he started hanging with me during the summertime, he got involved with me. He wanted to go. And then, you know.

One thing led to another. Yeah. So shout out to Alan Bunch. You also ran track, too. Yeah. I was good. So you, do you play football? Nah.

I was good at running for a motherfucker. That'd been perfect for football. I know. Like, you know, Wildo was never good at running. That motherfucker always got caught. Yeah. You hear me? The cop, you hear, beep beep. Theirens go off. Yeah, he's going to jail

That nigga Gilly is gonna get skinny Cuz wait up that's the police Myself Wait for what? Every nigga for himself. What are you doing? Anytime you hear from him, you have a collect call from... How can I help you, Cud? That nigga never got away, man.

As a juvenile, he never got away. I saw a shot of he's skinny. How he's slow and skinny? Man, that motherfucker had heavy ankles, man. He had the heaviest ankles in Philadelphia. He'd be with six, everybody get away but him. I got one for you. Yeah.

Cat, I think Cat get you in a 40. I cooked this shit out of Cat. You crazy. You saw that man run like 4'5 in the 40. You saw that on IG. Me and you both know that one little motherfucker 4'5. OK, 4'6 5'. Fuckin' 5'6 5'.

Come on, that. You don't got that one anymore. You saw he ran down Monique. That was in a high school gym. Kat didn't even warm up. He was in some damn jeans. You know, god damn well, it's goddamn wide receivers in the draft right now coming out the draft,

he running on goddamn four, five, six. You know damn well that was six, one. Cat get you though. No he won't. See, there's a difference you got. You ain't run, you don't run no 40s, gilly. Yes I do, I just ran a 40 at the Giants facility, did not? Yeah.

And what did I run, four, nine, what? Man, you ain't run no four, nine, did not? And what did I run, 4.9 what? Man, you ain't run no 4.9 and no 48. What did I run? 4.9 and 2. 4.9 and 2. At 33 yards? No, 40 yards. Who marked the yardage on it?

We was really at the Giants facility, and I told them I could run, I was hyping the shit up though, I told them I could run a 4.6. And they was like, well we got the guy right here with the time. He took me out there and I ran a four or nine. First time, didn't warm up or nothing.

So imagine if I warmed up stretched and shit. Four or nine. Four or nine. But I feel like I'm going with cat. All right. I mean we could do it man for some money. I got cat. That'll be the easiest money ever gave me, man.

Kat. Hey, Kat, I just need Kat to train for like two months. Kat ain't got any, man. Kat, I want to do her doing shows, man. Yeah. Yeah. You and Coach Prime, good friend. Yes.

You and Wallo, you guys were down there when he took off to Jackson State. You guys were really the first to lay up Yes that showed up on the scene showed love game first game you guys was very How long you know coach prime? I knew coach prime for For a minute man, you know coach is a really good guy You know what I mean as far as speaking to him, you know and coaches somebody that I could call and get some games Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? speaking to him, you know, and Coach is somebody that I could call and get some games from.

You know what I mean? And when he told us he was going to Jackson State, he was like, Coach, we in. You know, we gonna come down there and we gonna put some light on this shit. And we gonna really help you, you know what I mean? Grow the program. Grow the program.

Now it's up to y'all if y'all win or not. But the light we could bring is, you know, it's a different type of light. And Coach was really, you know, he was receptive of that, like, let's do it. And then they won, you know? And then they won the second year. And then it made it even better

because Travis decided to go. So now you got a big name coming, Shador. He could have went to Alabama, could have went here. He said, I'm gonna go play for my dad. So now you got some big name coming, Shador. You could have went to Alabama, could have went here. He said, I'm going to go play for my dad. So now you got some big names that's coming, that's also drawing some attention. You got us, and you got Coach Pram. There's a situation.

You guys are there. The guy scores a touchdown. You're running down the sideline with him. He gets in the end zone. He hands you the ball. You in the end zone, you spike it. What the hell you thinking? I wasn't.

You're like, you ain't got no hair on the shoulder, man. Listen, but if you look at the video, they say, Gilly, you just got to stand behind the white. Yeah. If you look at that video, Coach Prom said it. He said, Gilly's behind the white. I ran the whole sideline. Go, Neth, let's go.

Because you know I know these kids, I'm in the locker room, I'm dancing with them, I'm hyping them up before the game. I ran the whole sideline with them, but I was behind the white. I got to the end zone, he threw me the ball. I was like, now, when Tom Brady give his offensive lineman the ball.

Tom Brady at the game, they in the game, Gillie! For a minute I was in the game, and he beat him. And Coach Brom said, in Gillie's defense, why would you throw him the ball? Like, what was he supposed to do? He run down, he's typing you up, and then you give him the ball. Penalty on the bench. I'm like, oh, shit. That's me. That's me.

The only thing that would've made it worse, if you'd have threw the ball in the stands. Why would it? Why they would've made it worse? Man, you can't throw, that ain't even a fair game. You ever see somebody in college throw the ball in the stands? No, I didn't. I haven't. I haven't. Exactly!

See, I don't even know all the rules. You know what? I was so into the game that they threw a penalty. I didn't even know the flag was on me or nothing. I'm walking up the sideline, I'm charging, and Wallo said, and this a**hole knows nothing about sports. He was like, cuz, I don't think you're supposed to do that shit. And then all common sense hit me, I was like,

personal foul! I was like, that was the first time, the first game, I never went in the locker room no half time. I was like, fuck me up staying on the field with the cheerleaders and shit. I ain't going to the locker room. Where would you want to see Shador go? What team?

I would want to see Shador go to the Titans. Number one overall? Number one overall, no noise. The Titans is a place where you don't hear none of the noise. But I also believe that wherever Sh door goes, he's good. Because you got to understand, if I'm a GM and I'm drafting the quarterback, I got to say to myself, this kid's been through a lot more than every other kid in the draft. Because he always had to live up to being Deion Sanders' son. So he always had

the spotlight on him and all he did was produce. When he went to Jackson State they said he was at a black college, then he went to the worst FBS school in college football, which was Colorado at the time. He was the worst FBS school in football. Division I, football. And two years later, they were ranked in the top 25. So that shows you that he won in high school, four state championships. He won the college. They said, oh, he's at a black school.

He couldn't do that if he was here. Then he went to a school that wasn't that good and took them to greatness, took them to something to where it's though now, it's an attraction that you actually wanna go to Colorado because they got Julian Newman now. And that's a product of Coach Prime, his coaches, Doris Sanders, Travis Hunter, and the way that Coach Prime treats his coaches, Shador Sanders, Travis Hunter,

in the way that Coach Prime treats his players. You got an opportunity to see Trav when he went to Jackson State. He followed time to see you. An opportunity to see him up close and to watch what he turned himself into. We knew he had the potential, but to see last year that Heisman,

and you went to a lot of games. What is it like? Explain to people that's never seen Trav play in person, what is it like? First of all, it's like... It's kind of strange because Travis, off the football field, is just the nicest kid. Hey, what's up, man?

Hey, but then when he step on the field, it's like a light, it's just like a switch go on. And he's a total different person. Don't throw that shit over here! And you're like, who that? What the fuck? Like that's the same kid. Because he's so nice and you don't even think,

I wouldn't even think that he even had that mentality to talk, but when he step on that field, it's like, it's just like a total different dog. So and you really be like, okay, he really takes this shit serious because he's two different people. When he's off the field, he's calm, he's laid back, he's the nicest, and then he step on the field

and is like, I wish you would, Trotty. Throw that shit over here if you want. And it's like, he get it. Yeah. You've been mad for 27 years. When you met your wife, how did you know she was the one?

Or do you know? I'm still trying to figure that shit out. I'm trying to get my daughter sitting right there. You see my daughter's in there, and they'm telling her, I'm not. She's like, yeah, I was about to say my daughter sitting right there. You see my daughter sitting right there. She's like, yeah, I was about to say, I was the Obama. No, you know, you really don't know if somebody is the one, because you know, every day is a different challenge.

But after we got, you know, some time in and years in, and she was just so different, raised so different from how I was raised. You know what I mean? I never sat down at a table and had dinner with the family. And they did that every day. You know what I mean? Sat down at the table, had dinner,

talked about the day, what you did today. And my mom worked two jobs, and I was home making beans and hot dogs for my little sisters and shit. So it was just totally different, and she brought a whole different perspective on life to me, you know what I mean? I was a kid coming straight out the street carrying guns. She's like, you gotta take a gun to my mom's house.

I don't go anywhere without my gun. I'd rather be caught with it than without it. I'd rather be judged by six than judged by 12 than carried by six. All that ghetto shit. That shit that didn't make no sense. Now that you sit back, you're like, why the fuck was I, I'm at the dinner table with her parents,

like how you guys don't fucking***ing gun on my hip. Like her parents are going to do something. I should hope this thing don't hit the floor. All the ghetto f***ing analogies that didn't make any sense. I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by six. I would rather be a lion for a date and a sheep for a thousand years. No, I would rather be a lion for a date and a sheep for a thousand years. No, I would rather be a sheep for a thousand years. I would rather be a sheep for a thousand years.

I would rather be a sheep for a thousand years. I would rather be a sheep for a thousand years. I would rather be a sheep for a thousand years. I would rather be a sheep for a thousand years. But the ghetto trains you to think some of the most dumbest shit you can ever do. Like, and I also say, growing to a 95% white college was some of the best shit I ever did in my life

because they took a kid straight out the ghetto who the white man was to blame for everything. Let's just be for real. White man locked Ricky up. Ricky ran in the bank with a gun. Something you talk about. But growing up in the ghetto, it's not that. Right.

Oh, man, they just white man gave Rickett 30, gave Raheem 12 years. They ain't shit. Raheem pistol beat a bill in broad daylight. It robbed him. So me going to an all-white college, it opened my mind up. Because I got up there and I understood that

you got some really good white folks out there. You got some that ain't shit that was like, what is this doing on campus? But you also had some white folks that would them up if they said that shit. And it just opened my mind up to a different perspective of life and even how to operate and be yourself around whoever. You feel what I'm saying?

So when I finally started doing deals and I was able to operate around whoever, I was able to be myself around whoever. It didn't matter because I was in every environment. And if you never actually put me in that environment. Never done. You feel what I'm saying? I got black friends right now

that if I take them in an all white room, he talk about how you doing. I'm Jamal, I'm like, I thought you was bullet head. I didn't even know your name was Jamal. You been bullet headheaded, Joe. Like, now you here with the, with the. You just switched up on me.

You just switched up on me. So, to know you have someone, because it hasn't always been, you haven't always been this gilly, say the last decade, there've been some trials and tribulations, there've been some ups and downs, but to know you got a ride or die in your corner.

What's that been like? I mean, that's everything. You gotta understand, she went to jail with me. How you had the old lady go to jail? I was, actually she took me to jail. She was the one selling the weed. No, I'm just kidding. Tell on him, I want you to tell the story.

But, yeah, she went to jail with me, and we had a thing called a nebula hearing. Whereas though you can't bail out from the first, you got to be locked up from 3 to 10, take from 3 to 10 days for your nebula hearing to come through. And it just so happens ours came through on the 10th day. And she wrote me a letter from one jail to the next and said, babe, don't be over there stressin'. I'm okay over here. I'm battin' these bitches off. And I thought that was the funniest shit ever.

Because I'm gonna keep it waiting. Wait, my woman look, I'm like, they over here. They... They tearin' up! Somebody got some coochie. When she wrote me that letter, I was like... Was that the moment you knew? No, I hadn't knew before that. She had to be locked up and right.

You trying to get me in trouble. No, but I'm saying, you know she the one. Yeah. But she wasn't enough to make you stop doing that foolishness. I was. I was. I was. I was. I locked up and right-kicked her. You trying to get me in trouble. No, but I'm saying, you know she the one. Yeah.

But she wasn't enough to make you stop doing that foolishness. Well, she was liking them Louis bags. Ah! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha You know what I mean? You like that, you like that, you like the life. You know what I mean? But that was when it changed my life, because I said that's when I really, you know, I always had a relationship with God, but I said if I get out of this situation,

you ain't never ever got to worry about me ever. You were done. Being in your way ever again. Or the police way ever again. What was your first impression when you met her when you feel for the first time? I don't know where you met her with you in the mall you walk in the street You guys there when I walked up on her right you all know what I do. Okay, okay We gonna go back 30 years ago. Thanks a lot of facetimer right now. She'll tell you I smelt her hair

Yeah, you weirdo That shouldn't get you a case now But I see I was like, I said, you got all this long ass pretty hair. I said, you don't need no Paul Mitchell products or nothing. I bet you when you run your shit bounce, don't it? She had never heard no shit like that in her life. She was like, this is crazy.

Yes. I am. And you know the one thing that good girls like? Crazy. This is crazy. She's been a part of my life ever since. You got to understand, I used to have to go pick her up from the corner of her block because she didn't

want her parents to see me. And then I just got a tie said listen enough is enough I ain't picking you up from the fucking corner no more. I'm a grown-ass man. I was like 21. I'm doing that shit. You gotta understand she told me her dad was black and her mom was Korean. Bro, looking at my woman, I thought, it's gonna be this old light-skinned, curly-haired with pretty eyes and... That's darker than you. Ah!

Oh! Pulled up. She was like, that's my dad on a porch. I was like, the extra crispy. That dark motherfucker right there is your dad? She was like, yes. Dude, I felt so comfortable after that. That was it. I was like, he's a nigger.

That's a a nigger. Come on. That's a, that's a Phil nigger. Come on. I was like, yes. What? I met her dad. Her uncle was, see, I knew her uncle. He was like, you want something to drink? They was out there with the yak.

Yeah. You want a drink? I said, yeah, I'll take a drink, which was out there with the yak. Yeah. You want a drink? I said, yeah, I'll take a drink with you, Sid. I like you, I don't trust people that don't drink. I was like, damn. That's when I also realized the Littles was a bunch of alcoholics.

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What have you tried to instill in your daughter about dating? She's of dating age now. Guys, you find that it's different. If you would have a little brain, they see her, like, attracted to young lady, they got some paper, how can we get some of it? What you tell your daughter about that?

Don't make me kill somebody. You done gave that life up. Yeah, you don't make me kill somebody. Don't make me go to prison. I just tell her, you know, for most importantly, you know what I mean, just make sure you're always being respectful to yourself. You know what I mean? She make sure you always being respectful to yourself. Mm-hmm. I mean she was raised right so she understand

You know what I mean? What's the do's and the don'ts she see you she see it the relationship that you have with a mom right so that That's a perfect example of What you you know what I'm saying right? Yeah, you me and your mom we have ups and downs just any relationship people We have arguments. We have arguments, arguments is only reminding the motherfuckers how much you love them. You know what I mean? You got a relationship that's too quiet,

something ain't right. Sometimes you got to argue just to get the fire set. You got to argue just to make up. Hey, close your ears. Kevin Hart's from Philly. You got a relationship with K-Hart. Y'all be joking. My guy. I can imagine what tomorrow's going to be like.

Yes. If y'all, if, when we win, when the Eagles win. When we win. You and K-Hart are going to be on one. Oh, what me, Kevin Hart, Meek Mills, Stephen Fulton, four time champion, two weight division, he's over there in the house at Club Shea Shea. So man, the whole Philly gonna turn up, man. I tell you one thing, when we win, they think I was dancing before.

Shit, call me DM, goddamn dancing machine. You hear me? What is, what is, K-Heart, because you see yourself, you see Gale and Meek, we're gonna talk about Meek a little bit and his reform and what he's trying to do to reform, prison reform and guys in probation talk to Wallo, what is K-Heart, to see his story, to see where he came from, Philly,

just like you a Philly kid? No, you gotta understand me and Kevin Hart from the same neighborhood. Really? Yes. Kevin Hart used to live above a guy that was in my rap group, Ab Lava. Major figures.

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You gotta understand, I got five main homies. All of us been shot. Think about that. Wow. It's like a surprise when you haven't been shot in Philly. It's like, oh, you haven't been shot? Yeah, you lucky, man. Right.

So when you come up in a rough environment like that, two years ago we had damn near 700 murders. Think about that. That's two die in a day throwing gun violence. Imagine how many people was getting shot. Because most people that get shot don't die. Imagine how many people was getting shot in Philadelphia. So when you able to come about that type of environment

and make something out of yourself, when the whole everything is against you to fail, I gotta be proud of Kev. I gotta be proud of Meek. I gotta be proud of certain individuals because it's like, bro, you special. You're one of the ones God wrapped his arms around, man. You know how many people in Philadelphia would cut their finger off to be in Kevin Hart position, to be in my position, to be

in Wallo position, Meek Mill position, Freeway position, and a few others. Jill Scott, Eve, you know, cool boy. So when you come about those gutters, man, it's rough, man. If you can make anything out of yourself, you always gotta applaud that shit. You mentioned Meek, and you see Meek with Freestylin' and the Philly Streets, and now he's one of the biggest rappers in the game,

and he's tryin' to do a lot with his life. Learned a lot, been through a lot. You see he's tryin' to do with prison reform and probation and parole. What's it been like, like you said, to see guys that come from the environment in which I came from, and I know what it's like, because I lived in that jungle.

I lived in that environment. And to make it out, and to make something. What's it like to see people that grew up in a very similar situation as Gile and to be where they are now? You got to understand, I met Meek when he was probably like 18 years old, and we've been cool ever since then. So, to understand to what's most impressive is the growth.

You know what I mean? Because you've seen a kid that just had wrong talent. He didn't give a about nothing but rapping. If Gilead ain't got the studio, Meek wanna be in there. Because they all came to a studio that I named, that me and my partner developed called The Batcave. Okay. And it was good because you can go right to The Batcave,

you can record your songs, rug, mix you down, and send your shit right to the radio. Right there. So when I see me coming, he rawled, and he... The one thing that that kid had that a lot other people didn't have, he had real hustle. He wanted that shit. So it would be like, rug, whatever time Gilly don't got, because Gilly books the studio out two months. Now I want to f*** by coming through

there from 12 o'clock in the morning in the afternoon to 12 o'clock at night. Meek would say, okay, I want to come in there from 12 o'clock at night to 8 in the morning. Wow. And would really be hustling like that. So that's the reason why he's in the space that he's in. That's the reason why when you look up, he got all the cars, he got the mansions, I done been to three of his mansions. He got the, he's really doing shit at an elite level

because his hustle is at an elite level. What are your thoughts when you see all the hate that he receives on social media? You see someone that came, like you mentioned, came from the environment which he came from, having the success that he's had, trying to do things for our community, and it seems like our community by him in the butt.

I always put, see, I'm the OG, so anytime Cool Boy will tell you, anytime they going through, I'm the one that reach out, and I'm the one that push it into perspective for you, because I'm older, so I've seen a lot more life, and I've been through a lot more shit. So I'm able to push it into perspective for you. And I say, you listening to Instagram, Meek?

Or are you listening to that 22,000 people you just performed in? Because I just seen you perform in front of 22,000 people, and they was damn near falling out the Raptors. So obviously, they not the b---- on Instagram talking shit. It's easy to talk shit on Instagram. You could be a 16-year-old kid in Nova Scotia. Shay-Shay, you ain't shit.

You... It's easy to talk shit on Instagram. For me, I've never seen somebody's post and been enthused to talk shit on Instagram. For me, I've never seen somebody's post and been enthused to talk shit to somebody because my life is doing good. If I got a negative comment about you, it's just in my mind, man. I'm a crazy man.

But for me to actually type that shit on Instagram, that's letting me know that life got you in the butt, neck, and Russian headlock. It's kicking your ass. Because I don't think about, if I thought something negative, it's just funny to me, yo man, I'm a funny man, you're crazy man, I'm not typing that on Instagram.

Because you don't, or a person don't concern me enough that I would take time to write a negative something about somebody on social media. That's taking too much time out of my life. I got real shit going on. I have an energy drink that's the official sports drink of the Philadelphia 76ers in the Chicago sky. Pure fuel, wait, hold on, wait.

Breakdance on your tongue. You know what I mean? So for me, I got too much shit going on to concern myself with writing a negative comment about somebody, you know what I mean? It's just not in my, I don't understand that. Jay-Z tried to sign you, and you tried to sign you and your group off with your 12 points.

What are points in a rap? How do you know about this shit, number one? You have some, you got some good dick in this shit up. We gotta, hey look here, you know this. You put a team together. If you can't trust your team implicitly, you need to get new team members.

Absolutely, absolutely. Point is like, you know, how many records you sell, how much money you gonna get on the back end, residuals. Oh, it's not like the point you not gonna get against Ronnie, right? No, I didn't. Okay, I'm gonna use that point. So back in the day,

Hove tried to sign my group Major Figures. It wasn't just Hove, it was Dame Dash, it was Rockefeller. Okay. You know, I didn't feel as though that the contract was right, so I didn't accept it. You know what I mean? Yes I did a solo deal with a Tony Draper and suave house is my great friend to this day Two other artists that was on major figures Dutch and Spade they went over to entertainment

Another artist that was on major figures another artist that was on Major Figures, Ab Lava, he went over to Dr. Dre. So we kinda had this Optimus Prime thing going on where everybody could go get their own money on a solo thing, then we go and do the group together. Che and Dame came back with the offer. I didn't like the offer. I thought it was a slave deal.

I thought we would have to sell a a trillion records to make some money. So I turned it down and that was the situation What transpired after that? I? Mean some things, you know some things were said about making it difficult for you know for When you live to be in this game, you know, but does that happen a lot? Yeah, if you refuse to sign with someone is like, okay, you're done. You're not gonna work in this Happens a lot in this game, you're done. You're not gonna work in this industry?

It happens a lot in this game, you know, especially to a young kid that got talent that's young and naive. He like, fuck you, man. What do you mean you're gonna make it difficult? I believe in God, nigga, shut up. But to the bottom, the reality of it is is that they can make it difficult for you.

You gotta understand. Wallo used to be, Wallo was in jail, right? And he used to call home, and I used to say, "'Cause they blackballin' me, man." And I didn't know that he thought that I was full of shit until he came home. And then we would bump into people, and they would tell us, like,

now, Gilly was on the list. Like, you gotta understand, shout out to Seifer Sounds, you gotta understand, I did a... Because I was talented, people didn't wanna block me. So he brought me up to MTV. It did a, I was on MTV, I did an interview on MTV. And the interview was so powerful that they got a call from Universal,

said you'll never get an exclusive again. Wow. If you interview me, I'm just a kid just trying to get on. You gotta understand, I'm in a car, I'm on my way to 50 Cent House, because 50 Cent went to sign me. Shout out to 50, you know what I mean? And I'm in a truck with Cos McHale.

Shout out, biggest DJ from Philadelphia. And he calls DJ Khaled. And he says, man, Gile got this record that's moving. And Khaled says, yeah, Gile, I see the record is moving. Yeah, oh, yeah. You know, all that fake shit. And then, sis, are you still beefing with little Wayne, though?

I said, what? What the fuck does that have to do with you, man? First of all, Wayne dissed me. Right. Anybody I ever had an issue with, they started the shit. I never start nothing, I mind my business. Anybody know Gilly, he sit around, he smoke his weed, he work, he do his work and he mind his business.

Anybody I ever had a issue with, ever, they started the shit with me. It's just that I'm ultra aggressive. So then when I come back, it's like, damn, that was crazy. Like no, if I'm getting in the ring with you, bro, I'm not throwing jabs. I'm throwing jabs and hooks and uppercuts.

I'm trying to get you the fuck out of here. Right. So for me, it's always just been, I mind my business, you fuck with me, then you get what come with that. Right. You know what I mean? But back when I was speaking on, because you got me

off this goddamn cognac, it kind of uh... That shit good though, actually. It's smooth too. Yeah. We gon' see you with a bottle, you let you celebrate. It's smooth through my thought process. He gets you with that shit. Yeah, on, shout out to this stuff, man. Chay bottle of Portier. Chay bottle of Portier, let me tell you something.

It's a VSOP that drinks like an XO. And it's shit smooth too, it'll sneak up on you. The motherfucker run up on you like a bank robber. So Jay signed, he signed state property instead of you. Yes, they had went and got the deal, and then we didn't sign the deal, so they had the deal laying around. So they put some guys together from Philly

and made it happen and shout out to state property. All of them is my guys. When you signed with Swalve House Records, did you have to move to Houston? No, no, and shout out to Tony Draper, the realest CEO that I ever met in the game. You know, I went down there and, you know, Drape was the first person that showed me

that this rap shit was real. Drape? Drape. Oh, Drape, Tony Drape, okay, okay, Tony Drape. Because I got this Houston, and you know, he set me up nice, he had the car pick me up from the airport, and I get to his house and the gates open it oh oh he got all the cars lined up I'm talking about vipers with zip up windows and yeah I'm straight

from North Philly I'm like what the f*** the Benz and the Rover and the Viper and the Bentley and... And then he come out and this is... The f***ing glowing. Like I don't know if the f***ing was doing skin regiments back then, but the n***a was flowing. So but this 1990 mother f***er was... He looked like he was floating too. I'm like... That's what black excellence looked like. You know what I mean?

Yes. He like, come on in. And the fuck got the fish tank built in a wall. Houses are immaculate. This looks like Meade's cleanest every hour on the hour. And you know, and then he took me over to the studio house. It's another maculant. And it was just like, oh shit.

You know what I mean? You can really make money from this shit. Okay. You know what I'm, because I didn't grow up a rapper. I didn't even have cable TV growing up. I never seen no rap videos. I had one dream, to go to the NBA, that's it. I started rapping in college, playing around.

We just used to smoke some weed, my man, he had a little radio, had a mic, he'd play some beats, we'd say anything, we'd bustin' out laughing, then one day we was like, we gon' write something. I wrote a rap, we came back, I recorded it, they never, they was like, yo, you never thought about rapping. I'm saying, I'm saying shit like this, man. Stop playing, man. Ain't no nut ass

rapper, man. Fuck is you talking about me? Stop playing, man. Because I didn't look at rapping as being a cool thing. I just looked at it as just some- Something to do. Right. And then when I come home that summer, that's when the robbery happened. That's when I get home that summer, that's when the robbery happened, that's when I get kicked out of college. And that one rap that I had was better than any

f***ing body that I came across who had a thousand raps. Wow. My one rap was better than any rap that they could f***. You got to understand, I had four songs out. The fourth song I ever made was number one on the countdown on Power 99 in Philadelphia, the biggest radio station. So they're like, the number two song, Destiny's Child. And then they're like, number one.

And I got a bidding war between every record label, Def Jam, Priority, Atlantic. Tony Draper didn't come on to the end. And I might got 12 raps. Literally. Like, I went to the studio, the song was called Love for Gilead, I went to the studio,

and I was like, what am I gonna rap about? And the guy was like, Marcus Graham, who was my manager at the time, said, well he wasn't really my manager because he just was somebody that was just, he said, make a song about what you got love for, make a song about what you don't got love for. And I was like, okay, that's cool.

This is 1996. And I just went in the studio and I'm like, I got love for thug and thug misses, marijuana smoke, mo poppers and dine sippers, drug dealers, credit card counterfeiters, locked up in all of my broke. I got love for wild parties and wild bodies, sweaters by Armani, killers like John Gotti, up in all of my broke ass. I got love for wild parties and wide bodies. Sweaters by

Armani. Killers like John Gotti. Bad women in short dressers with huge breasts. The buggy eye bends with the triple headrests. It's my time to shine, you know I'm going blind. And Gilly got love for other baby moms. And what if hating on Lil Gilly was a crime? It'd be no men left here, they all get the deaf chair. In the top three, but I might be the best here. Low rug beats and balloons and my guess where, this is 1996. I don't even know how to rap. But a motherfucker said, go in the booth

and write a song about what you got love for and what you don't got love for. Okay, that's easy. I know what I got love for and what I don't got love for. And then that song is number one on the countdown. Right. So when you got there, was 8 Ball MJG, was Q- Yes, 8 Ball MJG was there, Ross was there,

his name was Teflon at the time. Yes. Damn. Then you signed with Cash Money, got in the band for 200K, right? Yup. But you never released a song, why? Because this how I got signed with Cash Money.

It was a show at the first union, I think it was called, Wells Fargo. Well, okay. Right? And I was supposed to perform. Rockefeller was performing. At the time, me and Beanie and Rockefeller, Beanie Siegel, our clique and his clique, had won through something.

So Rockefeller made the call and got me off the show. Baby heard about that and was coming a few weeks later and put me on the Cash Money show. When I came out, they watching. When I'm walking off the stage, Baby say, say bruh, you wanna come out and cash money, I got an S for you, brother. At the time I was in a contract, I still was in a contract with Tony Draper.

But Tony Draper, like I said, he was like my brother. He was like an old, he gave me the game. So I called him, I said, yo man, I'm trying to do this, going this. And he said, all right, if that's the situation. He was in breach of contract, so I could have just left. Right. But he was so real to me that I said, you know what?

This what I'm going to do. I know how bad they want me. I'm going to get them to pay you as well as give me an advance to get me out of the deal. And that's what happened. So then they wanted me, so they teary up out of the deal. And that's what happened. So then they wanted me, so they teary up and did the deal. After we did the deal, they wanted my publishing.

But the number they was trying to get me for my publishing and the number that I was asking for was two different things. So they never was able to get my publishing. We talking about a record label that owned everything. Mm-hmm. So you was like, nah, I can't do that? We talking about a record label that owned everything. Mm-hmm. So you was like, nah, I can't do that? No.

So if they got everybody else's publishing on the label, and it's like, I'm coming in, I'm from Philly. No, you can't get mine publishing. So it's like, okay, put him on the back, Bruno, he gonna break, but I'm not gonna break. Right, so what is publishing? That means you own? Yes. So you own the record for?

Yeah, so if you write a record, you get a percentage of the record. Okay. If you don't own the publishing, you don't get no percentage of the record. So if this record plays for 20 years, 30 years, they make money for 30 years. And you get nothing?

Nothing. So they didn't want you to have anything, they didn't want you to have 10%, 20%, 30% of the publishing? They wanted you to give up your entire right to the publishing? Nothing. Yeah, yeah, you did it right, you did it right by that. Yeah.

Hey. What have you learned? Or what did you learn or how have you learned about the music industry? I learned that all of that shit is fake. Really? Yes. All of it. That's why I don't go to no parties. Because all of it is fake. All of it is a bunch of fluff. All of it is a bunch of drunk... lying to each other.

Man, we gon' get together, man. Mr. Yeah, baby. I ain't got your number. Shut up. You ain't got to lie to me no more. I'm rich. Matter of fact, I'm tracking you now, and I might buy a couple of you... ...masters. You ain't got to lie to me no more. I don't... See, you got to understand. I'm this motherfucker, right?

They call us, right? They say, uh, Gilly, we want to invite you to the Roc Nation brunch. I'm the nigga that said, why would I want to come? Why wouldn't you want to come? I said, you want me to keep it real with you or you want me to lie to you? Keep it a book. I said the Roc Nation brunch ain't of nothing but Jay-Z putting a bunch of n****s on the lawn and then going in the back door saying,

I told you I still run this shit. Give me the money. Wow. You think I'm letting a use my brand? Huh? See, rich sit like this. Yeah, yeah, see how you talking to that. I got this shit from Russell and then my idea, yeah. But I'll be seeing the rich sit like this, you know,

they get a little money, they cross their legs and shit. That's all this is, man. Let's keep it real. I got, I work, I operate with 26 major brands. You think I don't know what branding is? Come on, we don't work from New Amsterdam, Vaca, Manscape, Harrier, Razors, Roman, Swipes, you name them.

They come to me and dollars worth a game because we move the needle. I don't let nobody allow to use my brand with their brand. What do you get from going to these parties except for a pitcher? Don't even smile with you if you ain't worth 500 million or more. Let's be for real.

The only smiling he do is when the billionaire's in the picture, look at all these broke ass on the lawn. Come on man, I ain't with none of that shit. I don't want to party with you. I built a way for myself. I made a way for myself. I made my own way.

Me and God, man. So I don't want to kick it with you. I don't want to do nothing way for myself. I made my own way. Me and God, man. So I don't wanna kick it with you, I don't wanna do nothing. I wanna stay in my own world. Smoke my weed and make my content and keep kicking your asses. That's what I like to do. The beef with you and Hadwood Wayne,

how did that come about? Was it a misunderstanding? It was never no beef. It was just a misunderstanding. He disrespected me on the record, I responded. That was all. I got a lot of love for Wayne. Shout out to him, man.

I'm glad. Y'all cool now? Yeah. I'm cool with everybody. Don't seem like you cool with everybody. I am. I don't have no issues with anybody. OK.

I just, I'm 48 years old. I ain't got time for the dumb shit. Yeah, you too old to be beefing now. I ain't got time for the dumb shit. And I ain't got time for trying to trick a nigga out of position to make your Brain look good Okay, 48 years old man. I got I got I got kids that graduated college man. We trying to do great things man I ain't I got grandkids man

That's the second time in three days. I heard somebody say that masterpiece said that on our live show the other night He said man, you got to be careful cut people to try to trick you out of your position. Absolutely So I don't want to come kick it with nobody. I like to stay in my world because I understand one thing Go seven years back one trying to kick it with me Come on man now I developed the lane guy said, you never gave up. These had you doing security at Ross right now pointing to the irregular polo tees. You never gave up.

Now I understand that all of that money for years, guess what they is burnt the out. I got to recharge a fresh pack of six pack of D batteries and buy my back. I'm going to run these in the hole. You hear me? He he he he he he he. Yes.

In the hole. And I told you before, I'm coming to buy a couple of you masters. I ain't lying. You ain't going to do it like that again. Craziest shit. I'm coming to buy a couple of your masters. You ain't gonna be doing like that again. I'm coming, they gonna get paid. But my family gonna eat off you for the rest of your existence and even when you ain't even here. That's my goal in life.

It's to buy their masters. You gonna... You feel some type of way, huh? No. They gonna get a shit load of money. But I wanna own your life. You feel some type of way, huh? No. They gonna get a shitload of money. But I want to own your life forever. I want your kids to eat off this shit.

I want my kids to eat off this shit. Because you didn't want to see me eat. So, is there even an exchange? There ain't no robbery. Even before I pay those women? You getting a shitload of money, man. I'll do some Michael Jackson shit. How much you want for that shit.

Off him 10 more million than what he won. Wow. Get the Masters. Let me ask you a question. Yeah. The cash money model, Birdman, I mean, he had them all. Yes. I mean, he had the rap game.

There was a stretch for about a decade. Yes. He cornered the market. Let me tell you what I admire about Birdman. And everybody know I don't really f*** with him like that. But I'm real. His hustle. Ain't no n***a gonna out hustle him.

He gonna hustle. See, that's what people don't understand. They think, oh, you gotta be the smartest person here, you gotta do what's hustle. And when God think that door should open for you, he gonna open it for you. Right. So, nobody is, you gotta understand,

I was around Cash Money for four years, man. We used to wake up, go to the studio, hustle all day, leave, go to the club, leave the club at two o'clock, and go back to the studio and be there at eight in the morning and then wake up at one and we right back in the studio. So the one thing I did understand from Cash Money and I did learn from Cash Money is that you got to hustle different if you really want to win out here.

So if you want to be different, you got to hustle different. Absolutely. But let me ask you this, Gillian. You can help me because why is it that all but when when you get money People always think you did something seedy. Well, you the Illuminati or you to you you you you are what they gatekeeping. Oh Here's an overnight success, but nobody sees nobody cares to know the grind or see the grind All they see is the success and think it happened overnight. And I get that, I get upset because,

hold on, what about the 10 years I was on CBS? What about the seven years I was on Fox? So how's that, if that's 17 years, how's it overnight? What you see is overnight, I saw as a 17 year grind. Absolutely, and that's how it is for me. You gotta understand with Million Dollars Worth a Game, I was given out Million Doll's Worth a Game in 2012. Wildo didn't come home in 2017.

So every day I would wake up and get a youth game. Let me get you out Million Dollar's Worth a Game. Even when the videos was 15 seconds, I would give them something they could hold on to. You'd give them Million Dollar's Worth a Game when it was only $5? Right. How did you come up with that name, Million Dollar Worth a Game? Well, there was always one of my sayings. Like, there's a video of me, Meek, and Black De Niro in the studio in 2009.

And I said, I give you a $1 million worth of a game for free, y'all just don't be listening. I got an album called Million Dollar Worth a Game that I dropped in 2015. So that's always been one of my sayings because I always felt like I'd be given a game and they don't be listening, you know what I mean? And so when I decided to get a youth game, I said, man, let me give them some game where as though they could, it's raw and uncut, but they'd be able to digest it.

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