Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Gillie Da Kid Part 2

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

Welcome back to part 2! Gillie talks about his dominance in the Big 3 Celebrity Game, where he won MVP three times and jokes about how the NBA celebrity games are political. He’s not holding back when it comes to challenging Jamal Crawford to a one-on-one, and he even gives props to Chris Brown's hooping skills while teasing Bronny James. He reflects on his past—his basketball scholarship, his legal troubles, and the pain of losing a friend—but emphasizes how far he’s come, crediting his wife for showing him a new perspective on life and helping him transform. Through his journey, Gillie highlights the importance of hustle, citing Meek Mill’s rise as a testament to staying focused despite the challenges. He shares raw truths about navigating the entertainment industry, including turning down a deal with Jay-Z and Dame Dash, and dealing with the hate that often comes with success. He talks about second chances, particularly how his podcast has been a platform for redemption for artists like DaBaby and Tory Lanez. As the conversation turns to the topic of rap beefs, Gillie opens up about how they’ve been a natural part of the rap game. He compares rap battles to losing an NBA final—disappointing, but not the end of the world. He reflects on the biggest beefs in hip-hop history, like the ones between Jay-Z and Nas, emphasizing that it’s all part of the culture and shouldn’t be taken too seriously. He stresses that egos often get bruised, but at the end of the day, it’s about the art. He touches on the beefs he’s had, including misunderstandings with artists like Rick Ross and Lil Wayne, but insists he’s focused on the bigger picture—his business and his work. Gillie talks about how rap beefs can be entertaining for fans, but they often don’t know the full story behind the scenes. He reveals that the real challenges come from navigating the music industry itself and the struggles of being successful while dealing with personal and professional pressures. He speaks about how he’s moved past petty beefs and focused on growing his brand, staying true to himself, and supporting others in the industry who are working hard to make their mark. As the conversation turns to personal matters, Gillie opens up about the impact of fame on relationships and how he has evolved as a father and grandfather. He discusses his regrets, including the loss of his son and the life lessons he’s learned along the way. His message is clear: life is precious, and the streets aren't the answer. Get ready for a conversation filled with humor, motivation, rap beef insights, and wisdom. Tap in now and join the Club!         #volume See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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us on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of I Heart Women's Sports. Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. Man, you got a lot of you have a lot of disagreement with people, man. Oh, shit. Why do you have a disagreement of disagreement with people, man. Oh, shit. Why you have a disagreement with everybody? Who? Who I had a disagreement with? You had a little temporary disagreement with J-Ho,

you had a little disagreement with Bird, you had a little disagreement with Wayne, you had a little disagreement with Ross, you had a different, I mean, damn. Me? No, I never had a disagreement with me. That's always been the case. No, I said Meach.

What Meach? Big Meach. I ain't no disagreement with Big Meach. No, not Big Meach. My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. But you did have a Meach, uh, with Ross. Yeah. Why Ross? Ross cool, I like Ross.

Okay, okay. I mean, can I explain what happened? You can. Okay. I'm at Jackson State. Okay. I'm in the locker room. Valo's in there talking to Prim.

Valo running the locker room. He say, yo, Wayne here. Man, go holler at that because we need to get that on the podcast. I say, where he at? He in there with Prim. I walk up. I see Wayne. He in here talking to Prim. I walk up, I see Wayne.

He in here talking to Prime. What's up? Wayne go, I walk out, standing right out here. Wait for him to come out to holler. He in there talking to Prime. The process of called Jermaine over. Mac Maine come here, you know what's up man? Trying to get him on the pocket.

Yeah, you knew you and Wayne had it. Man, that shit the past. Man, nobody worried about that shit, man. But all right, I got holla at him and see, okay, cool. He say, where Wayne at? They say, Wayne left. Mac May say, where he go? They looking at Mac May like, nigga, we don't know where he went.

He left. Mac May say, okay, man, I'm gonna holler at y'all. So now, I'm doing an interview with TMZ, they asked me about Wayne. I said, I don't really talk about that shit no more. They say, well have you ever seen him? I say, Dan, that's crazy y'all asked me that. I just seen him last week at Jackson State.

He said, how that one? I said, I shook his hand, and then Wayne got out of there. Yeah, he did. I never said I pressed the nothing. I actually said I'm trying to get the on the podcast. Right. What happened was Mac Maine posted a video of me saying Wayne dipped.

Posted a video of me and Wayne shaking hands and then me turning around and walking out like I was frauding or something. And I'm like, Mack, you know what happened. You was there. You was the one that said he left. So I didn't even respond to that shit. I'm just like, what's the proof? I never said I was pressing the n***a. I said I was trying to get an interview from the n***a. And Ross was in the comments. These is fake. So about you and Wallow was fake? Yes.

That's how that started. But you and Ross good now? I mean, I seen Ross at the concert, at me concert. He didn't have nothing to say. And then I seen his homie, and his homie introduced himself and said he was a real. Wow. And I said, if you a real with the, am I a superhero?

And. That was it? That was it, yeah. I think y'all can get together and tell it. Ain't no beef, I don't got no beef with nobody. I don't have no beef with nobody. I stay in my world, Shannon with nobody. I don't have no beef with nobody. I stay in my world, Shannon.

I do me. I don't fuck with nobody. I don't bother nobody. There's plenty of guys out here on the internet disrespecting me, talking crazy. I can't even take these guys for real, Shannon. I can't take these because who talk about the shit that they don't know?

See? See, that's why I like you. I can't take no for real. Just talk, if I never met you, how could I have something negative to say about you? I don't know you. So, Why do I care?

Right, there's a bunch of guys out here that, that's, you know, cloud chasing and do shit for views. I paid them no mind man. God ain't gonna bless you, trying to come up off the back of another man another me ain't gonna get no blessings like that Million dollar with the game you say you started like a telling the young the young homies that I'm a I got a man I was the game. Just listen God. It's attention motivation and education Because come home, yeah

He's been you's been reading up, understanding, marketing, all this other stuff on how to run a business. You got to ask, let's do a, he said, let's do a pond. How did it come together where you're like, you know what Cubs, let's do this, shoot for the stars? Well, me and Osworth, the game was already so big. Just the brand, me giving out the game. That people already was asking me, Killie, you need a podcast, you need a YouTube channel,

you need this. I didn't know what a podcast was. And just to be honest, when I went and looked at a podcast, not saying no names, I was like, who the would watch this? This is the driest shit, this is Canada Dry. I didn't understand. I said the same thing. Where they got, I was like,

I didn't know what a podcast was. I'm like, what, I mean, what? I mean, I'm on TV. Why do I want to do extra in my off time, do something that's similar to TV? And then, Wallo sent me an article that said, Spotify allocates 421 million to podcasts in the first quarter.

And I said, the first quarter is January to April. 400, nigga, what? Break that microphone now. Right fucking now. In the first podcast we did I think once the number two in the world behind Joe Rogan, yeah And it was no look no looking back looking back Wow, what's been some of your craziest moments on your pod? The first craziest moment was me and while I'll fight

That was the fair was early on, that was wild. Had to give him some tenant windows and shit. Tenant shit up. Who's older? Me, I'm older. You older? Yeah, I used to watch that nigga in the tub, man. Used to shit in the tub all the time, man. His bowels was bad.

He loose? Loose, man. Loose as a kid. But Lil Durk was going to Chicago to the gutter. Kodak Black going to the projects, being in the projects two o'clock in the morning. Young Thug. You know what I mean? Because to have the conversation that we had

with Young Thug and not even know that he was about to go through any of that shit he went through, that was like, you know what I mean? And then the baby, the baby, because the baby, you know, in the society we live in, he said something that quote unquote he wasn't supposed to say, and the world turned its day back on him. Wow. And he called us and said, would y'all interview me?

And we said, why wouldn't we interview you? We not like the rest of the world. We don't give a f**k. We understand that people make mistakes. We human, man. I made a bunch of mistakes in my life, man. And God forgave me. I wouldn't be in this position I'm in.

I'd probably be in jail. So we not judging you. And the difference between us, we built our podcast around the youth, the owners of tomorrow. And we don't talk at you, we talk to you, it's a difference. So we said, come on, we gonna embrace you during the hardest times of your life.

Tory Lanez, same thing. We gonna embrace you when everybody else, they stay as far away from you. We not gonna treat you like that because we understand that people make mistakes. Wallow made a mistake, cost him 20 years of his life, but now he's a cultural advisor at YouTube. He was the CEO at Reform.

He got one of the fastest growing clothing lines in the world. So we understand that second chances is prevalent, that a lot of people, that's all they ever need is a second chance. That's all he ever needed was a second chance to show he was great. So we don't judge, and we understand that people make mistakes, and we the platform that say you made a mistake, but we gonna give you an outlet

to say I f***ed up. Players f*** up too. I f***ed up. But don't***ed up too. Right. I f***ed up. But don't judge me by a mistake that I made because everybody, if you was judged by every mistake you made, come on. Yeah, we're not here. You made a mistake when you was on that camera grunting. There you go, see how I said, get it, see how I said.

I said damn, Shannon look like he in the best shape of his life but he sound like he out of shit. He was in there grunting like a... There you go, Gilly. See? Have you had any surprises? See how good he is? What you want me to do, Gilly?

He got right off of that. Gilly's over. I mean, that was, you know, I done moved past that. I feel like I had a crisis, T. We had that. At least you owned up to it. Yeah, I mean- There wasn't nobody believing you

accidentally went on live. You gotta take six steps. But here's the, but hey, all I'm trying to say is that, think about it. I've never been on live before. So you mean the very first time that I'm on live That's what I'm gonna put out there The very first I go out he's telling you to put a little work in

Are you surprised because you had a former NFL player on on the podcast and he revealed that his girlfriend cheated on it with me Did you know that prior to him coming? Oh, no Had you known that would you have brought him on? Yes. Because at the end of the day, let's be for real, bro, probably 95% of the men in the world been cheated on before. Yeah, they just don't know it. They just don't know it. And if they do know it, a lot of them, they forgive the woman anyway. So, you know, me, I thought it was real that he shared that story, you know what I mean? Because, listen, man, they get out on the habits

of the best of us. Yes, and plus, look, most guys like pretty much the same type of woman. If you go back and look at athletes, football, baseball, basketball, whatever the sport is, and look at the type of woman, that's why, man, why these guys like the same woman? Why they gotta, do you like what you like? And they're in that circle.

That type of woman, young woman, whatever the case may be, they're around that. The athletes are around that. I mean, when you in the whole food, you're gonna get stuff that don't have non-GMO, don't have pesticide, it is what it is, really. But unless you in that world, people outside of that world don't understand.

And so that's what I tell them, they be like, man, Shaw, why they? I say, bro, when you go somewhere, those are the women that you see. Right, and a lot of people don't understand, they be like, oh, such and such, she mess with him, him, and him, and him. That's the only people, that's at all events that she has.

That's the only world she's at. She don't be around too many regular b****s. Right. So, but they don't understand a lot of celebrities are sheltered. Right. And the only time you get out and about is when you're around other celebrities.

Correct. So who else are you gonna mess with? Those celebrities. You've had some of the, I mean, Me and Arthur at the game, you had some of the biggest rappers, some of the, I mean, main author of the game, you've had some of the biggest rappers, some of the biggest entertainers on your platform. How do you go about to secure your guests? How do you get them?

We call them. We reach out, personally. You know what I mean? Yo, bro, I'd like to get you on the show, bro. You want to come bust it up, chop some game up. You know, we have some that respond. We have some that don't respond. You know, we don't take it personally.

Would you DM them? DM them fast. DM Drake. We have some that don't respond. And you know, we don't take it personal. Would you DM him? DM him fast. DM Drake. We need you on the show. DM LeBron. Need you on the show. Fortunately, Drake and LeBron both responded back. So, you know, hopefully we'll get them soon.

But I DM. I don't, I don't, I'm not operating off no ego. I don't like your ass. You ain't DM me. No, we got you. Nope. I did DM. How you gonna DM Drake and LeBron before me? I DMed you. You just ain't DM me. No, we got you. Nope. I did DM you. How you gonna DM Drake and LeBron before me?

I DMed you. You just ain't see that motherfucker. You got all them tenders in there. Look. They heard you all in the room. They got all them tenders in there. They heard you in there grunting. They had, they had, they said, we want a little of the grizzly bear. Rawr! Rawr! Rawr! You recently sat down with Kodak Black about his drug use.

How difficult is it to have a conversation like that with someone you see the potential, so much ability, and you're kind of like, throwing it all away? We just sat down with him, you know what I mean? And it wasn't necessarily about drug use or drug abuse. It was just necessarily about reminding them, because you gotta understand, these young men, I won't say kids, they kids to me

because they're young enough to be my kids, but these young men who are millionaires, they're living in the moment. Right. They in the moment. They don't always understand how important they are. So it'd just be us to remind them that you know you that right?

You know what you mean out here, right? Okay, you see what they did to Dirk, right? You see what they did to young Thug, right? No, you ain't exempt. So come on, Nef. We not trying to throw this shit away. Right. We not trying to.

God, he anointed you to be one of the special ones. Out of all the that you grew up with, how many people is in your position? So come on, we gonna take advantage of this. We not gonna take none of this shit for granted. And that's our job, to let him know that you special, bro. Because everybody around you more than likely is a yes man. I'ma let you know you special, Nef. But don't f*** this up, Nef.

Because you already been to jail, you know what this shit about, right? I'm not here to stroke your ego, man. I'm here to let you know that, Nef, you special. And if you f*** this up, you know who the idiot is? You, Nef. And special. And if you f*** this up, you know who the idiot is? You, Nef. And they're accepted to that shit because, like I said,

we ain't talking at them, we talking to them. Kodak revealed that he did as many as 100 pills a day. Why do you think it's so hard for guys to come into this sum of money, this fame them. I mean this fame this praise this adulation and then resort Maybe they had these issues and they got clean They were able to do enough to get in this position to release a record or do something

Why do you think it's so hard for them to like stay on the straight now? You understand, right? We taking kids straight off the projects. Mm-hmm,, right? We taking kids straight out the projects, right? Straight out the gutter, straight out the streets. And then, bam, he got a shitload of money. You talk about a kid that went from having zero fucking responsibilities, zero, to bam, now you got 10 responsibilities. Feel what I'm saying? to bam, now you got 10 responsibilities.

Feel what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. You don't, it's sometimes it happens so quick that you don't always even know how to deal with that shit. You just like, I just want from nobody asking me for nothing to now, every time anybody getting a jam, they asking me for something. Now you start to feel like, playing me like,

like am I being too nice? Am I not being generous enough? Am I, you know, it's just a bunch of shit. You got family members that they feel entitled. They feel like you owe them shit. They feel like you wasn't even around during my whole journey of coming up. But now I owe you.

So the difficulties of coming from the ghetto, and I like to say this a lot of times, right? A lot of times, you know what would be the difference between white parents and black parents? What's that? White parents, they see their kid win, and a lot of times, they already been successful in life. They got good credit, they got they house,

they got they, they. They got the nice car, so they're not expecting anything. They're not expecting anything. You try to buy them a nice car, they, they. They got the nice car, so they're not expecting anything. They're not expecting anything. You try to buy them a nice car, they're like, Billy, I got a Bronco. You worry about you, Billy. Don't do it. Right.

You're a black family. Everybody made it. Now you gotta buy your sister a car, your mama a house, your mama a house, your mama a car, your two brothers a car. For you even to do anything for yourself, you already a million dollars in the hole. Now you gotta help them maintain the shit

that you bought them that they can't afford. So now you bought your sister the Benz, now she needs brakes to make it $3,000. She can't afford the brakes, so now she done rode the rotors off the Benz. Now it's $8,000. You ain't lying. You ain't lying. So, you gotta get up so I can make it up, Keith. So now, everything is coming back to you. You're like, damn, wait, hold on, I did this, I put y'all in this, I did y'all this, I did y'all this.

It's just still coming back to me. Right. Then it's cool when the money's pouring in. Whatever, when it stops. Because man, I just got 150 tonight, I'm getting 150 tomorrow, I'm getting... Don't worry about the Senate. But when that shit slow up, now is the issue. Yes. It's like, I've been doing this shit for three years, four years.

Y'all ain't established nothing yet. I was like, we never knew we had to establish nothing. You had everything. Wow. So a lot of these kids is going through, and then when you got them ghetto moms, oh lord. You mentioned you had Thug on before the trial or any of this transpired.

Why do you think it's so hard to separate rap from street life at times? I mean, the raps come from the streets. But the objective is to get out, not to get out and go back. But when we first rap, all we're rapping about is what we know. You know what I mean? Yes. So, and then a lot of times, it don't even be the rapper. A lot of times it be the n****s that surround the rappers. Because at the end of the day, if I don't rap, Shannon, right, how else am I going to

prove that I'm down for you other than when we got some beef and it's time to do something to it? I can't show my worth. Other than that, I'm just a hang around. I'm dying for you to go through some shit so I can bust some heads open so I can say, you see how I ride for you? Because I don't bring any value to the table,

other than that. Other than that, I'm just a hang around in the studio now. Right? So I'm dying for something, for somebody to f*** with you, because I'm dying for something that for somebody to with you cuz I'm dying to show you not only How I ride for you That's the only way they can show you Lot of times you don't even want to ride. He done did some dumb shit. Yeah shot at them. You like nigga what?

In the corner got missing my name I shouted to me like nigga what? You have a fire in the room you little dirt unfortunately, he's in jail right now, but Wallow tearing up telling little dirt brought over town. He let nigga was scared And they go scared for our life cuz they got a bunch of guns in here. Oh my God. Y'all ain't gotta do this. Yeah! Yeah, stop bitching. Stop bitching, straighten up, tighten up your head.

They ain't doing nothing to us. But, I mean, he's like, I mean, because Wallo forgave the man that took his brother's life. My cousin, Steve. Yes, and he said that Wallo is very close to his grandmother, calling Nana. Yes. And Steve, his brother, they got shot,

he died in the arms. In the arms, yes. In the doorway. Yes. And he forgave him. He said, I had to let this burn go. He said, I had to. Yes. And he forgave him. He said, I had to let this bird go. Yes. He said, I had to.

Yes. He had to because Steve got kids out here. Steve got responsibilities out here. So if you come home on some crash dummy shit, and you die and go to jail, how does that benefit anything that Steve had? Right. You know what I mean? He already lost his life to the streets.

So for it to be a continuing cycle just don't make no sense. And I'm glad that, because it would have been easy for him to come home and do what everybody expected him to do. But he came home and he did what nobody expected him to do. And that's why he's being Greek right now. You Muslim? Yes. How long? My whole life. Really? My name's Farad Nasir. That's my real government name. Wow. Yeah. I would have never guessed

that. How the hell do you get the name Gilly? My mom's name is Gilda and my mom is one of the craziest that you would ever meet. So growing up, I was always Lil' Gilly. Like, yo, this Lil' Gilly, let's be excited. Like I never knew why. This Lil' Gilly, hey, Lil' Gilly! Man, go $20 to the, do my mom do that? Everybody's always happy to see me. Like, but my mom do that everybody's always happy to see me?

Like. But my mom was always well known and well respected. So I always was Lil' Gil. So by the time I got older, that just was. It stuck. That's Lil' Gil. How many people know your government name besides your very, very close?

Nobody. Everybody called me Gilly, man. You know what I mean? How many people know your government name besides your what besides your bare bare nobody? Everybody called me Gilly man You know what I mean? Cuz when you go to Advertisers sponsors, they call you Gilly. They call me Gilly. Absolutely. Oh, mr. Gilly. Oh Even if they knew my real lady gonna fuck it up for a naser Damn you thought that was a real name, Fard Nazer? You had King Von on your pod before he tragically lost his life.

Where were you when you got the news, and what were you thinking? Like, damn. It was like a week later, I think, or maybe a few days later, maybe. And the only thing that was stuck in my head was a line that he said on the podcast. He said, Gilly, shit don't even be that deep, Gilly, but us young guys don't know how to talk to each other.

And that just stuck with me because it was like, only if young guys took the chance to talk to each other, they would realize that, but I really don't even want to be beefing with you. I don't want to be beefing with you either. I like your music. I like your music. But they never even get a chance to talk to each other. Is there something you got ego where I gotta prove something? Well, you know, this generation that's out now is solely different from my generation. My generation in the culture, we looked up to the hustlers. We looked up to somebody that was getting money,

somebody that was doing better than you because it just appeared that, damn, that's what I want to be. This generation, they made the shooter popular. The shooter in our generation was always the lowest form of a street. It was the who life didn't matter. Mm-hmm. Because he's a crash dummy. He's gonna die out here anyway. Right. So but this generation made the shooter popular. To where as though he don't have no money, he has nothing going on for himself, but he shoots. Right.

And he's popular. And his gun actually costs more than his bank rent. This kid got a $700 gun on him, but he got $100 to his name. So, you know, this generation really f***ed up where they made the shooter the popular guy and it just doesn't make no sense. Where are you on the snitching culture?

I mean, I just believe if you jump in those streets and that's what you choose to do, I just believe you should stand on that. Okay. You know what I mean? I believe, I've never believed that you should jump in the streets and then something go wrong and you should decide to tell on somebody.

Right. Now if you were, if you were, that lady right there, I don't believe that she's ever been in the streets. No. If she saw a crime go down, she should absolutely tell what the fuck she's seen go down. Right.

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and then you get caught. You get jammed up. You get jammed streets and you grow up in a certain culture and then you get caught You get jammed up jammed up and you like wait I'm a tell on the person that had more drugs than me because I got caught I don't I don't me personally I don't agree with that because I just I just think that you chose to be in that world And when you choose something you should understand the consequences of what you've chosen And when you choose something you should understand the consequences of what you've chosen Mm-hmm, and I would never tell on anybody when I chose to be in a certain world that I chose to be in

That's just me. You said something very interesting. You said a lot of times these guys have have friends around them and They've been with these guys their entire life and a lot of these guys are what we call Yes, man these guys their entire life. And a lot of these guys are what we call yes men. And they tell you what you want to hear and not what you need to know. And how difficult is it? Because I'm pretty sure you pretty much got the same circle of friends.

People that knew Gillie from the jump, they still killed cool with Gillie because when Gillie didn't have anything, they was there, Gillie got something now, they're still there. They haven't switched up on you, you haven't switched up on them. How difficult is it for people that come from this and us,

come from what we come from, to distance ourself from that situation? It'd be very hard, but that sometimes be the hardest for people because you feel like I came up, and not necessarily they brought any value to me, but they just was around me. You know, you feel like I came up and, you know, not necessarily they brought any value to me, but they just was around me. But you gotta understand also that

if value don't bring value to value, then it devalue. Then what is it? It devalue everything. So, and you gotta understand, if I'm a artist and I go on the road and I got 15 hang around, that's 15 people I gotta feed. And put up. And put up.

And when I go to the store now, and I go buy a jacket and they picking up the jacket, now I end up buying 15 jackets. And they not really bringing no value to what I got going on. And that's how you go broke. Yes. So if you understand life and you're like.

But you notice that. You say that's how you go broke. That's how you go broke. Now when we make the money, we made money. We go broke, man, you went broke. You went broke. You feel what I'm saying? So if you smart, you gotta understand

that I can't do everything for everybody. And I gotta put myself first, and what's my responsibilities first in life. Because if I go broke, who's taking care of my responsibilities? Nobody. Nobody. Why do you think rappers are so successful at podcasts?

You got Joe, Nor, Kam, and Mace. And it seems like a lot of these guys are transitioning out of music. Right. Why do you think rappers are so, have been able to do so well? Yourself, like I said, Joe B., Nor, Kam, and Mace. Why have they been so successful?

I mean, rapping is just a form of talking, expression. And if you have personality and you're able to express yourself, and you're intelligent enough to have the whole conversation, and intelligent enough to understand that it also has to be some humor in there, it has to be some, you know, then you can make it happen. You know, Joe is, he has his own type of drive, but you know, sense of humor that, you know, people like, you know, Cam, he has his own type of drive, but you know, sense of humor that people like.

You know Cam, he has his sense of humor. Mase, and we have our sense of humor. So, and we also got years in the game, so we got knowledge on us, and we able to speak on things, and tell stories, and things that we've been through, that maybe other people are not able to do. Right.

Cam and Mace, they thank you for bringing him, you and Wallow for bringing Cam and Mace back together again. Yes. What does that mean? How does that make you feel? Because I guess they, at one point in time, they were cool, and then they kind of like went their separate ways and they're back together.

Got a top podcast, doing extremely well. Well, you know, for me, it makes me feel extremely proud because I'm like, y'all brothers, YouTube brothers was friends as kids. And for me, it's just always like this. If we was friends as kids when we didn't have nothing, how were we gonna be not friends? Now we fall out, we got everything.

Right. And then honestly, it's all about talking, like King Von said. And all we did was bring Mace on the show and he expressed like, Killian, I used to wear Cam'ron sneaks. Like I was up. Like Cam'ron, I used to wear Cam Ron's clothes.

And that's what hurt me the most is that me and my brother is not as close as we used to be. And that's all it took. Cam watched the interview, and now Cam comes on and expressed that I really miss Mace as well. And then next thing you know, they call each other. And then next thing you know, they call each other. And then next thing you know, they get 30 million dollars. Right, okay. Now you got Cam, Mace, and you got Jim Jones. And I think it was Jim that said,

that Mace said that, hey, I taught Jim how to rap. Jim said he taught him how to rap. What's the collision now? I mean, you know, at the end of the day, I see Jim and I see Cam going through it, and, you know, Rollo wrote him a letter on the gram, and, you know, pretty much ask him, you know, whatever y'all going through,

because it ain't really worth it. No, it's not that. We all winning. Jim's winning. He's doing his thing. He's still doing his thing in music. Cam is winning. He's doing his thing with the podcast. He's winning in life, so, you know,

it's not that serious. That photo on IG, on internet. You know that shit ain't real. I already know what you're talking about. I know, I just, ah! Oh, tell me nigga, you know that ain't real. I mean, y'all hanging around a lot. Ain't hugging me like that.

Oh, okay. But how did, of all the people, how did would you? Walo Photoshopped that shit. Walo did you like that? He didn't give me like that, man. But I heard my man, I fucked with R. I've been to his house. He's a great artist, made great music. I really fucked with him. I don't have nothing bad to say about R. I don't know what you did.

That ain't has nothing to do with me. But every time we was in each other's presence, he was a good dude. Right. But I, look, and I understand that he, what he accused of doing, what he got convicted of, but I believe you can separate the two. The man made incredible music. Yes he did. Now the person might, you might not like what the person did.

But that doesn't take away from the music that he produced Right, but that he made right? Am I wrong for saying no, you're not wrong cuz when I when I listen to I believe I can fly Yeah, I just don't think about him pissing on nobody Like I just like I'm like, Fiesta, you know how it be? What's the brokeest you've ever been? A broke, broken and broke. Broke, broke, broke, broke.

That's why you had to get the strap and run up on people. I was broken and broke. When you laying up in your big crib now, you sit back and you know you look at the fine man, you're like, damn. You ever thought it would be this good? No. In your wildest imagination.

When you know what I, I thought I would have money. I ain't gonna lie about it. That's a different type of money. This is gilly. This is different type of money. I never thought that I would make this type of money off of being myself. Okay.

I never in a million years imagined some shit like that. Right. Like bro, you sit here and you be you. Yes. You don't have to do anything extra but be me. And to make this type of money, that's believable. So I never thought that it would be this way. I can't say that, I always thought that I would end up where I needed to be, but I never thought it would just be me being myself.

I see, every time I turn around, I see Walu pull up and something new. He like, hey, as a matter of fact, while you talking, I might go get something new tomorrow. He ain't lying either. I'll be low key like, what the fuck? Bro, what are you doing? Yeah, you got a side hustle. I know how much we make it but damn you got a side I'll be like and like what you try to go broke with the

What I mean what what is the best part and what I tell people for me when people like Shannon What's the best part about having money? I? Said money gives its the ability to do things for my family that if I didn't have it I Wouldn't be able to do because that's the most important thing to me because I don't really buy I mean I buy some night but Look at me man Look like I buy shit because I don't every day you see me on Instagram every day you see me on social media I got a sweatsuit on like but You see me on social media, I got a sweat suit on. Like, but, my daughter got a truck that she really wanted.

You know? No, she got a, she wanted a Rubicon. A Jeep? Yes, yes, Jeep Wrangler. My other daughter got a BMW. Okay. You know, they have Jeep wagons in Jersey. Yeah, my other daughter, she want a BMW. Okay. You know, they have G-Wags in Jersey. Yeah, my other daughter, she want a BMW truck.

She got that. My grandkids, they don't have to ask for nothing. You know, I lost a son out here who has a son. So me being able to just be there for my grandson and, you know, make sure that he's not missing nothing. You know, you know, that's what's not missing nothing, you know, you know That's what's important to me man. I don't really I don't really give a fuck about nothing else in life What's your best? What's the what's the best purchase that you made? My wife's wedding ring

You got a new one cuz I know at the time that you got bad That they might have called like 40 dollars. Yeah. Yeah. My wife's wedding ring. You got a new one? Because I knew at the time that you got married, that thing about to cost like $40. Yeah, my wife's wedding ring. You got a big one, huh? Flawless shit. Flawless? Deep flawless? Yeah, to fly that from Africa.

What? I wasn't playing those games. You hear me? But she deserves it, though. You know? And when we did tattoos, so it would always be forever, but I'm like, no, this really gonna crush your heart to a different level.

She saw that come out the box. You had to put a welder's mask on. You know, when that lip starts shaking. That's what she works for you. start shaking. What's your worst purchase? You bet you have you purchased anything that you like, did I buy this? Yes all my Rolexes and cars. You a car guy in Philly? Yes, old school. Oh okay. I got old school, bunch of old school cars, but other than that, I really don't buy anything. You know what I mean? And I love my cars.

Right. So I wouldn't really even say that was a bad purchase. Right. I just, I just. You and Waldo gave each other a gift. Yeah. Well, every year I throw a big party for him that costs a shitload of money.

You ain't, I ain't got invited, see? You invited this year, you know what I mean, for sure. Yeah, I handle number one, you know. And I know you're working, you got 11 shows and shit. Yeah, I've got a... I turn it over to CJ, CJ can handle it for a while. I know you're working, the busiest man in show business. You hear me, but I throw him a big party every year

because one time he forgot his birthday. He was in jail. He didn't even know it was his birthday. So, and he's never been celebrated. So every year I celebrate, I make open bar, everything's free, and people just had a time of their life. What's your best investment? My best investment was a million dollars worth of game.

Buying all of the 17 cameras we got and the studio house. And that was my best investment. Now you're in the boxing game. Yes. Well, actually, you got your hat and a lot of things. Yes. But so now, as being a promoter, is that what you want to do? I mean, I just like providing opportunity for people.

You know, we did the first boxing match, then we had Meatball on there. She won viral. Then Zeus Network picked her right up, and then now she's on her second season going into Zeus Network. So we just like to give people opportunities and try to make some stars out of it. You had a boxing thing, and I think shots were allegedly fired

and you ended up having to kick people out? No, what happened was... the Delaware police was on some bullshit. Okay. I'm in the middle of a live bullshit. Okay. I'm in the middle of a live stream, right? Oh yeah, that's him with a body shot. Oh, did it? I get a tap on the shoulder.

It's the chief of police and it's my assistant. I mean, yeah, my assistant does. And she's like, they're shutting it down. It's over. It's like not even halfway through the... I'm like, what? I take the headphones off. Shut it down.

They're shooting at the police outside. I said, what? Now, you got to understand, we don't even bring that type of crowd. Right. So now, I'm on the side of the police now. Right. Some came to my event and shot at the police. I'm losing my mind.

I get up, I walk to the front, I'm talking to the, nothing we can do, it's over. I said, listen, I have a live stream going on right now that thousands on top of thousands of people paid for. You mean to tell me there's nothing we can do? He say, if I let the livestream continue, you gotta kick all the people out of the stands. I said, but the people in the stands didn't do anything.

This was the people outside. Like I said, if you want this livestream that you got going to continue, the people in the stands got to leave. So I go in the ring. I'm mad because I'm under the impression that somebody shot at the police outside. And as black people, that's on all of us.

Right. That we would come to an event. We gave out $4.5 million in the city of Philadelphia to minority businesses And y'all would come to my event and shoot at the cops So now I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm on one. Mm-hmm Everybody get the fuck out of here After I kicked everybody out and we sit in there waiting to start the live stream. They said

No, Gilly, they made a mistake. They wasn't shooting at the police. They were shouting at the police. I said, what? Because this makes no sense. Why would you come at me when I'm in the middle of a livestream and tell me it's over? When I looked up, they said it's over, it's done, it's done, we shut the building down, this the last round. Because somebody was shouting at the police outside.

That don't make sense, Shannon. That don't make sense. Y'all said them people was shooting at the police. So now I got a problem with the Delaware Police Department and I'm losing my mind on the Delaware Police Department because I paid you guys $14,000 for four hours worth of work and y'all tried to pull a fast one saying somebody was outside shooting when they wasn't. So that was the issue I had with the police department in Delaware.

And I stand on that they're the worst police department in the United States of America. I stand on that shit. What's the issue in the fight game? It's been reported that Canelo and Terrence Crawford, it goes back and forth, it's Canelo and Jake Paul, it's Canelo and Bud. Is Bud, so if this fight's,

let's just say for the sake of argument, the fight is gonna happen, Canelo and Bud. Who you liking this fight? Canelo. Why, because Bud had to move up three classes? Yes, and in the history of boxing, I've never seen anybody move up two classes and be successful.

Well, Roy did. I mean, but not in one jump, not in one leap. Right, right. It was here, here, light heavyweight, fight a few fights, OK, heavyweight. We talking about he just fought 147 one fight ago. Right. And then you're going to fight at 168?

Yeah. Did he fight his last fight at 54? Yes, just one fight ago. And so now he'd go from 54 to 60 to 68. Right. And then he done have a rehydration clause, so Canelo might be 180. So Canelo's at 190.

185, 190. 185, 190. Right. He thinks he can outbox Canelo. I think he can outbox Canelo too until he get hit. Okay. You know what I mean? That's the thing, you gotta, you gotta,

you gotta, you gonna go whole fight without getting hit and you fighting Canelo Alvarez? No. You and Mike tied to the fritz. How did you meet Mike? I met Mike just, just out and about a few times. And we have somebody that champs Shadim that we both know that, That's like, you know.

Since you're a boxing aficionado, give me your four great, your four gold boxers. Any division, any era. Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao. Manny Pacquiao was an eight division world champion. Eight division. He went from one, what, from 106, 112,

all the way up to 154? Right, so that's my goats. I like that. Give me your top four boxers currently. I like that. Give me your top four boxes currently. Uh...Bud. Okay. Uh...Canelo. Mm-hmm.

In your way. Okay, I like him. And um. You sick? You could put you sick in there. Or you could put my nephew in there who's a four division weight champion. Four time champion, two division weight champion, that means you're a hall of Famer, cool boy Steph, Stephen Fulton, but. Yeah, you can throw him in there too.

Just beat my guy. How did you become such a boxing fan? Is it Philly? Is it Philly famous? Yeah, Philly is a boxing city, man. You grow up in Philly, you gotta learn how to rumble, man. You know what you're gonna get your ass whipped. That's Crohn's in Philly, isn't it?

Yes. No, not Kronk ain't in Philly. Is it Detroit? Yeah, that's Detroit, I believe. Shula's is in Philly. Where did Frazier find out? Joe Frazier, Jim. OK.

Yeah, he throwed out of Joe Frazier's. So you got to be able to bang if you're going to be in Philly. You're going to be in my rumble, man. You gotta be able to bang if you gonna be. You gonna be feeling you gonna be in the rubble, baby. As a rapper, Drake, Kendrick. If Drake would've just let it go like, hey bro, I'm done with this, boom, let it go. Would we have gotten to where we got with this beef,

with this back and forth? Well, at the end of the day, all the whole industry came at Drake at one time. Yeah, why? Drake put so many of them on. I mean, let me just tell you something. What? Anytime.

This be for real. All them motherfuckers got money. Yes. This is what we talking about. OK. What is it of the beef and it was some bitches? Right. Had to be about some bitches.

You know Drake. Come on, man. Drake's slaying them and spraying them and putting bitches all on the plane, man. Yeah. What else we got the beef about? Other than some hoes, man. But you ain't gotta come at me that hard.

Just give me a little body blow. Man, you gotta understand, man. I mean, this- You gotta understand, most beefs in America were started about a woman. Yes. Sure. That's just. I mean, but this is all time.

I mean, you go back and look at, I hit him up with Tupac, no Vaseline. I mean, there's been some great, this one up there, Nigella. Yeah. They're gonna be talking about this for a minute. But what I'm saying is, pro, it's only a rap battle.

That's all it is. Jay-Z lost an eyes. That man won five Grammys off that. But you think he a bigger artist than Drake? No! So why does it matter? You lost a rap battle. That's like the blind James losing the NBA Finals. You be cool next year. You be back.

Even with him, even if you look at the streams now, right? You be cool next year, you be back. Even with him, even if you look at the streams now, right? Even with him winning five Grammys, his streams ain't still on match Drake's streams. Yeah, Drake just did a billion. A billion, he's the quickest to do a billion streams on this new thing. So at the end of the day, Ken Drake's great, Drake's great, this is a rap battle, man.

Ego got a little bruised, though, man. Dang, you ain't got to do it like that. Let me just tell you something. That's all in Drake's mind, then. Okay. You can't bruise my ego. I got my own plane, man. I'm about to hop on my plane, man.

Hop on my ego. I'll buy a new one. Do me a favor. Take 30 million, go get me an ego. What the fuck are we talking about? Ego? Imagine if Jay-Z Ego was destroyed. He would have never been able to bounce back.

You can't, this is a rap battle, there's nothing more than that. Okay, you got the best of me on Tuesday. Right. Jess Hilarious took a shot at your Ghillie song. Ooh, what's Jess say? She was just at my Airbnb yesterday too. Well she called it corny that you were eating chicken and licking your fingers in the video.

That's basically it, nothing. Oh. I can say a lot of things that I thought Jess did was corny, but I love Jess. Oh, there you go, we gonna move on. I love Jess Hilarious, so I'm not gonna do that. I think Jess is hilarious. You got grandkids now?

Yes, three of them. What's it like being a papa? It's the best thing in the world. Man, that shit warmed my heart, man. But it warms, you know what's so crazy and this shit sounds funny? It warms my heart even more than my own kids when they were younger.

You'll let your grandkids get away with stuff you never let your kids get away with. And when I was younger, I was more in the mix. I was more trying to chase my dreams. I was more, now I'm just like, I'm kicking it with my grandkids. Like, you know, I never really had that opportunity with my kids when they were younger.

Because I had goals and shit and accomplishments that I was trying to achieve. Right. Now, I'm not really, I'm- You ain't chasing it like that. I'm not chasing it like that. And with my grandkids, it's just the best time ever, man. It's just, it's the best best time ever, man. It's just...

It's the best shit ever. You lost your son. Yes. What do you want your son's cheese memory to be? Uh... He... More than...than...than his memory, right? I want the youth to understand how important life is. And how fast your life could be taken from you.

You know what I mean? As far as his memories, I'm always keep his name alive. Because that's my son, and I feel as though he should have been burying me and not me burying him. But it's more a lesson to the youth of tomorrow ain't promise. So you got to understand that the dumb shit you out here doing in the Toine and Witt, you could lose your life at any moment. And you losing your life don't only affect you, it affect your parents, it affect if you got a child,

you got to, it affect all the people that really love you and care about you because a lot of times these youth, these youngers, they don't respect life because they ain't got a chance to live life yet. You know what I mean? I was struggling, I'm not never gonna sugarcoat shit. I was struggling with my son, trying to get him to fuck out the streets.

You know what I'm saying? So I'm not gonna sugarcoat none of that shit. I wish we didn't even have the best relationship when he passed because he wanted to be a street. And I didn't believe in that shit. I didn't subscribe to that shit. So my message is for the youth is that, go ahead and do something that's beneficial to you, man.

The streets ain't beneficial to you. The streets don't love nobody. If you could show me the drug dealer with the big house on the hill, I congratulate you. If you could show me 10 successful drug dealers, you could tell me 10 street n****s, I'm gonna show you 9 n****s that's gon' tell. So all of this shit is a myth. That's what I want them to know. And it ain't even about cheese, no more. It's about saving some other lives that think this shit is more than what it is. I can't do nothing for cheese. Cheese is gone."

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doing something for somebody that's less fortunate because I believe that that helps my son and Jenna. But other than that, it ain't about cheese no more. Cheese ain't here. It's about me saving somebody else's life and letting them know that you can die out here. Somebody will blow your brains out playing out here and thinking this shit is not serious when it is.

So what do you wanna do? Do you wanna live life? Do you wanna be here for your parents? Or you wanna subscribe to this fake-ass street shit and get the melon knocked out, get the seeds knocked out your watermelon? Because that's all that's gonna happen. Because it ain't no successful drug dealers out here.

It's not no successful criminals out here. No, they die and they go to jail. So if you want to be in jail for the rest of your life, that's cool. If you want to get the f***ing seeds knocked out your f***ing melon, that's cool. But I'm here to tell you that's what's going to happen. It ain't even about cheese no more. I had a conversation with Wallo,

and Wallo was the one that broke the news to you that your son had passed. You remember that conversation? Yeah, no, it wasn't even a conversation with Wallo, and Wallo was the one that broke the news to you that your son had passed. You remember that conversation? Yeah, no, it wasn't even a conversation. It was we was in a hospital and Wallo broke down and walked out of the hospital. Did you know something then? Absolutely. Absolutely, 100%.

I knew something. You say, OK, Walla, what's up? I already knew. So when I followed him out, I already knew what it was. Because I already knew who it was coming from and what was coming from Skip. Skip was a police officer in the Philadelphia Police Department. So I already knew what it was coming from.

How did your son get involved? How did Cheese get involved in that life? Because at this point in time, Gilly, you made a name for yourself. You got braid, you stuff. Well, you gotta understand. And... I can only tell the truth, being a follower.

Plain and simple, being a follower. Wanting to subscribe to some shit that's not really you. And that's most of the kids out here. Most of the kids in the suburbs subscribe to shit that is not even really them. And then they got to prove themselves. Well, I don't believe you. You grew up in the suburbs, I don't believe you tough. So what you gonna do? You gonna prove yourself?

And then a lot of them end up trying to prove themselves. And a lot of them end up in a sad situation. You know what I'm saying? Yes. Like, now I can't say that my son was just a totally suburban. He hung out in North Philly. He hung out in the ghettos.

He grew up. He had family down there. But what he was trying to be wasn't him. He chose a life that he didn't have to be. Absolutely, absolutely. You, on the other hand, you grew up in that, that's all you knew, that was around. Absolutely.

If your mom had you out in the berms, like you said, when you went to college, it exposed you to something else. Absolutely, absolutely. So, you know, a lot of times, the kids in the ghetto, they subscribe to something because of an image. They don't want to be looked at as pussy.

The kids, oh, he turkey. Oh, they don't want to be looked at as a certain way. So, that'll drive a mother that's not even into that life to do some shit that he had no business doing because he don't want to be perceived as a certain way. I'm sorry that you had to hear the comments about the Illuminati because you got money now and normally when black people get money you had to do the Illuminati you had to sell your soul so you had to sacrifice your son right in

order to stay in good graces and keep this paper coming. Now that we know one of the kids that was responsible for murdering my son, right? So I guess the Illuminati came to a 16-year-old kid that's in high school, and said, we need you to kill Gilly's son for Illuminati purposes. See how idiotic this shit sounds? As a black man, you can't just work hard and put the work in every day,

and blessings come from that, that you gotta come from somewhere else. So I don't pay that shit no mind. Have you met the kid? Have you talked to the kid that took your son's life? Nah, I never met him. Only reason why I know is because the police called me and told me once he was murdered.

Because the kid had just got shot 17 times. He was walking with his mom. And he got murdered. And then the police notified me and let me know that he was one of the kids that was pretty much about to get locked up for the murder. But he got murdered first. So and then, you know, when you do something in the streets,

the streets to streets know So, you know, they all want a diagram and they talk and then you know, apparently this kid name was the Joker And you know, that's what he did. So, you know, but he had to deal with God, you know That's how I look at it and then Charleston White says something disrespect when derogatory towards your son But he later apologized. Did you accept this apology? Did you talk to Charleston? No, but you know, you can't, I can't respect niggas like that. Because what I know you for, when I ask you, what do you know him for? Think about it. You don't even know. You know him for disrespecting niggas that's known.

Right. Think about that. You ain't putting the work in out here. You ain't did nothing. You got on the internet at 40-something years old, a nigga that had nothing going on, and disrespected niggas that put work in. I can't respond to a new **** like that. Me and you ain't on the same level. Think about that. I can't respond to a **** that called **** P.O.s online.

Wow. Think about that. I can't respond to nobody that tell you, come through this, you got a gun, come nigga, let's get it, we can get into it. But then you call a PO online, man. It's pretty obvious to me and you ain't the same type of man.

So I let dudes do they talking, man. I ain't, I don't worry about that shit, man. We talk about that I don't even know what I know you for. You ain't did nothing. Wow. Feel what I'm saying? I do. I don't know what I know you for

other than talking shit about that's known. That's actually doing something. That's actually doing something. Oh man, what are we talking about, man? You mentioned earlier in the interview that you had gotten shot. I think you got shot in the wrist stomach. Yeah in the foot. Yeah How did that happen?

Pull the gun out he got a drop on you got the drop You didn't run out of fast you I thought you could run that's why I'm still in I Told you while it would have been I told you while it would have been me We'd have been it's so hard how do You slow motherfucker I got busy How do we get gun violence out of our community. Is it possible, Gillie? No, it's never possible. Can we reduce it? Yes, we can reduce it. Okay.

Some laws gotta change. Okay. Especially in Philadelphia. See, there's laws all different ways. See, in Philadelphia, you come home for gun cases. Motherfuckers beat gun cases every day. You know why n****s in New York don't carry guns like that? Oh, you're going away for a minute. They lock Plexico Burrows in. You're going away for a minute. They don't play.

Plexico Burrows won them. It's a Super Bowl. They said, we don't give a f----. He had a gun in the club. Tick tock. Yeah. And he shot himself. Lil Wayne.

Yeah. Come on, nigga. You had a gun? Come on. So in New York don't really carry guns unless they're going to go do some shit. Right. You feel what I'm saying? Philly, everybody carry guns.

Yeah. Everybody. Because these be gun cases every day. Oh, dismiss, dismiss, dismiss, dismiss. So until you change the laws, it ain't going to be really no gun. Then think about it in Atlanta. You just, anybody could carry. Oh yeah, yeah, it's open carry state.

I mean, the South, everything is open carry. That shit's crazy. Yeah, yeah, it's the wild wild west. So, I just read, I saw about this 17 year old basketball player, straight A student. And my wrong, it used to be like, the athletes, they got protected. Nobody touched him. Hey, he good now. He going to be what we, you know, they going to be talking about

the block. He from the block, he got out. They protected those guys. What happened? That's who killed my son. The 17? The 17? Yeah. The 17-year-old basketball player that just got shot 17 times? Yes. That's who killed my son. Really? Yes.

What was that about? Well, it wasn't for my son. Your son happened to be there? Yes. Oh. Them blocks is beefing. They going through it. My son just so happened to pull up out there five minutes. They come to shoot the block up.

My son's not from that block. He don't. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah. He just so happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. What the? That's how deep it is. Bro, he has the potential to get out. Right. And he live in that life? No, no, no, but see you don't understand. He got videos out

where he got a joke of mass on. Right. Bunch of guns in his hand. So these kids is influenced by all the wrong things. To shit that don't matter. You know what I mean? To shit that once upon a time, when I was growing up in the ghetto, I was influenced by. And then when you experience things, when you go places, when a vacation to you is not going through a toll booth.

So you gotta understand, if you're from Philly right now, go to Atlantic City and you call them and they say they out of town. Yo, I'm OT, I hit you, nigga, you 45 minutes away, nigga. You're not through a toll booth. What the fuck are you talking about? That's how poor the city is. Motherfucker, go to Atlantic City and they tell you,

yo, I'm OT, I'll call you when I get back. You 39 minutes away in a car, nigga, what are you talking about, you OT? So you gotta understand, that's what we grow up in. These kids don't know no better. These kids actually think that you can't make it as a rapper unless you killed somebody. I actually think that you can't make it as a rapper unless you killed somebody.

Unless you did something out here in these streets. This is the mindset. Yeah. Why is the rap, why is that glamorized? Why is going to jail, or I put that iron out, I put that stick on something, why is that glamorized? I have no idea. I told you when I was young is that glamorized? I have no idea I told you when I was young we glamorized the person that was getting money to hustler The that's why rap names was like Gotti

Rap games it was always somebody that was getting some money Now it don't be about no money or nothing they kill you about an Instagram post, right? You said you was gonna slide, you ain't slide yet. Right. Ah! Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, now I slid! Look, look, you serious?

Right. So, it don't make no sense. And, it's no answer for it, it's just like, it's just flat out plain stupidity. Have you ever thought about leaving Philly? Oh, I live in Jersey. So.

Jesus. You know what I mean, I'm somewhat racist. What the **** are you doing by my house? Bro. Come on, you ain't never seen it. My house by itself. What the **** are you doing by my house? I mean... You provided four million dollars in grants for black owned businesses and social service organizations.

Yes. You feel like that is your responsibility? Yes. To give back? Yes. You got to understand there's people out here that got businesses and they worked their way up. Nobody ever gave them nothing in their life. I had an opportunity to bless a bunch of businesses, a bunch of people that's doing it right because you just didn't have to be a business, you had to be a business that struggled during the

COVID, you had to be somebody that paid their taxes, you had to be a real business. And for the minorities that were a real business, it was a pleasure to run up on them and give them 100,000, 50,000, 25,000, 200,000, whatever it was. It was an honor. I think as a father, I think a lot of times as a parent, we want our kids to, we don't encourage our kids to follow in our footsteps, but hey, if they do so, hey, have a son, if you're to follow in my footsteps,

I'd encourage that, okay, fine, cool. To have a daughter follow in your footsteps, I'd have encouraged, okay, fine, cool. To have a daughter follow in your footsteps, what's that been like? Man, you know what it is, it's beautiful because she's getting responses that she's looking for. Okay. You know what I mean? If they following your footsteps, they ain't shit.

Ah! Okay. You know what I mean? If they following your footsteps, they ain't shit. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha And a lot of times, but that's the hard part. Right. Is that when your dad is successful, and that's what Bronnie is up against. Right. Well he ain't. That's what Mike up against. Who? Little George Snowy Neal. Yes, yeah! Yeah!

I mean, but who thought that, okay, God's gonna give you, God's gonna make your son LeBron, gonna make LeBron James, he gonna make Michael Jordan. And you know what, by the way, I think your son should be just as good as y'all to look this don't happen Come on, bro. I mean, but I'm like this thing Mike's situation He out here selling more sneaks than niggas playing now with some run right here Yes, and Michael Jordan they played basketball in 20 years so more sneaks than everybody and your boy you like least not to cook in the house

Nick yes Damn, you can't even wait till you get to the crib to get busy. Let me ask you this, but when you hear, I don't know if you heard this, but if you were to hear somebody say something negative about your daughter, how would that make you feel? I mean, at the end of the day, I'm in the media,

so I know how it go. I understand that, like you just talked about somebody who talked about my son had passed away. That shit don't even make me feel no type of way. Because I'm like, you didn't know me. You didn't know my son. So for media, whatever, it's never gonna be all sunshine. And the basis of a true character in a person

is what you do when shit is most difficult. It's not what you do when the sun is shining, everybody happy when the sun is shining. What did you do when shit was most difficult? Did you crack like a egg thrown off the project roof? Or did you say, okay, it is what it is, this is what it is, now let me attack this shit head on? That's all I'm worrying about.

Because we don't, the way I'm designed, you got me and you. We don't give a fuck about what people say that have no control over what we doing. I post shit on my Instagram for people to talk shit. I don't give a fuck. This is entertainment. Are you entertained? That's all I care about.

If you're not, I ain't doing my job. And I'm not allowed to keep these tens of millions of dollars coming in. Because that's all the matter to me, is that my grandkids, they ain't going to have the same issues that I had. Other than that, baby grandkids ain't gonna have the same issues that I had. Other than that, baby, everything ain't, don't worry.

My daughter truly know. Do I give a fuck about what anybody think about me? I'm 48 years old, I showed up to a goddamn football game in a full uniform. Think about that. Thigh pads, knee pads, hand warmers, the quarterback play sheet, helmet. I didn't even have real shoulder pads. I had goddamn lacrosse shoulder pads on.

So my shit all lopsided. Think I, to the point when the players see me, they like this race. Yeah. I am, nigga. I want that Super Bowl. But, and this is what I told Tyne, Coach Fryan, I said, bro, I don't believe the people are hating

on your kids, they hating you. This is the opportunity, so they might not, this is about you, Giddler. If I hurt you, because we want to be protective of our kids. I ain't ain't got nothing. Yes, sir I got everything if you don't absolutely just like get uh, just like Shiloh. Yes, right. He go to the shrine game, right? You didn't see nothing about any other player come out of the shrine game. Nope Shiloh struggling and coverage because what you never heard nobody say his daddy's struggling with coverage.

Right, right. So at the end of the day, what I do, I DM him, and I go, be great. What they talking about. And then the game come up, and then when the actual game come, y'all have nothing negative to say except for, we made plays. So that's what it is, man. Well, without further ado, I'm honored to have your daughter perform right here on Club Shake Shake.

Oh man, that's beautiful. That's beautiful. That's welcome. I gotta drink some of this smooth shit to that. You the one who's gonna be singing? Yeah. Oh come on, come on. Coming to the stage right now just saying the unreleased plastic up

New York LA Plastic color baby, we're top of dumb you own baby Checking your temperature baby, we're both better on So the conversations don't make no sense Take a couple hits and I'll beg it for again with you Where does this lead? You're waiting for devotion I need that shit too We both been jumping to conclusions

Are we ready for the truth? I don't think what I keep quiet I wish you could just read my mind It's hard for us to open up Open up It's hard for us to open up, open up Plastic cup, baby We're top of the tongue, oh baby Checking your temperature, baby

We're both better off Some of the conversations don't make no sense Take a couple hits and I'm back at four again with you Who else is this need? Call you out and you deflect I get too f***ed up and lose my common sense Say life be on me, I know I can't win If you gon' waste my time again

I can't see how this gon' end And I'm so glad I could better end it You love to say that I'm too dramatic You say you're right and I let you have it Say it again, let you have it Roll up on me like shit never happened Battle me is when when this friends have happened You had to come get it back

Actually I don't call I'm off the dawn Are you alone? Been missing home Been feeling so impatient I need an explanation Plastic cup, baby We're top of time, you own, baby

Checking your temperature, baby We're both better, oh Solve a conversation, don't make no sense Take a couple hits and I'll back and forth again with you Oh, add a si-si Yeah! That's New York, LA singing her unreleased song, Plastic Cups. Let's give it up. Yes. Yes. Appreciate you, brother.

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