Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Iman Shumpert Part 2

Episode Date: February 25, 2026

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Part two is underway. You are early investor in Uber. You got it and got right up out of there. Come on. Oh, short. Don't say that short. As soon as I seen it were making a little money, I got up. Sure.

You got a whole load of that for at least 20. Well, I ain't know nothing about nothing. I was broke. They gave you some money. Somebody said something about that. Uber sounded to me like, you remember Renicab? Yeah. And what movie was that?

BAPS. BAPS. BAPS. And BAPS. The man, they basically was talking about Uber. What if you could have a private, driver whenever you want. It was like call a phone a cab or some shit like that, whatever.

And when I heard of Uber, I'm like, that's kind of like. Yeah. And I'm like, but wait a second. You know what I'm like? Man, let me put a little money in there. So I put a little money in there. That shit flipped about two, three times. Well, I took that money out so quick and both of them.

Why did you, why did you leave a little bit in there? Yes. Because I thought it dropped like the rest of everything else. But you had to make your money. Even if it did drop, you just take the- Exactly. I still made my money. I'm saying.

I just didn't make as much. Yeah, you'd have, ooh. Yeah, I'd have clinked up. You're what I said? That's like, this is about to do about Bitcoin. I'd have glowed up, too. Just didn't know shit. Man, I had an opportunity to getting Bitcoin, but I ain't know.

Because I'm not tech savvy. So to get into your wallet, I'd have never been able to get my wallet. I'd have never been able to get into my wallet. And I had an opportunity to get into it. I think it was like $500. It was like $500. coin and the dude say you know because I know you I'll let you get in at 500 of coin and I get an opportunity to get like 15 20,000 coin I say bro I appreciate that but I can't

I don't know nothing about it oh shit I blew it well he blew it I'm a messed up I'm a oh I'm a oh my I'm a whole my yeah yeah I'm a dude I ain't know nothing about no but like I said I had I couldn't get it I couldn't have got into the while I ain't gonna lie that'd be too much you. You had way too much fuck you on your hands, bro. You'd have been too much. You definitely wouldn't be doing this. You wouldn't be having to. Oh, yeah, yeah. I would have because I wouldn't have been able to get into the wallet.

So I'd have had to keep doing it. Because without the wallet, you can't open the wallet. It's useless. You got all that money just sitting at it. It's like your account. It's like you got all this money in this account and the government got your comp frozen. You see what's sitting there but you can't get access to nothing. I got the new iPhone

and I didn't used to like it. But yeah, they got my eyes. skin. I can't do no, y'all ain't got worried about me doing no crime. They got my fingerprint eyes. You feel me? If they can still... Well, you go to the airport. If you don't get my voice. If you got clear, too?

Yeah, they don't got everything. You don't got touch with so you ain't getting away with nothing. Yeah, I drive a Tesla now. It's wonderful. How they think it is? Every time I forget a password, they'd be like, you want to use your eyes? Yep. You damn show I do. You want to save this password to the wallet?

damn so do. We had G. Herbo on, Sean, and we had somebody else on all herbo. And we ask him, is Derek Rose bigger to Chicago than Mike? Than Mike. Yeah. Mike's more to the game.

Yeah. To Chicago. We choose in size. Michael North Carolina boy. We happy we got him. Yeah. We happy what he did for the city. Poole was born here. Yeah. And really did this. Like they followed them in high school.

Semian. We followed them to Memphis. Yup. We followed them to the league. Then he the youngest MVP. Yeah. And he brought that shit home to Chicago. He held that motherfucker up in Chicago.

Oh, man. That poo is just, I ain't go loud. And it's weird because I played with him in Cleveland, got to play against him. Me and him didn't get to go head to head until I got drafted because I lost in the Christmas tournament. Is it a Christmas tournament? No, not Christmas.

The Pontiac tournament. I lose in a Pontiac turner. I lost the round before, but I was supposed to face him. My junior year, we were supposed to see him in the championship. Chicago never got to see it. But it's like everything about Poole was Chicago, Chicago, Chicago, Chicago, Chicago. We got the witnesses, see everything. It's like, yeah, you went to the league, and you might not ever get six rings like Mike.

But you really, Mike will never be from him. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, it'd be Rolls here. Like people don't realize like when Poo, even when, like we are wet, like if he wear a 150, you know what the 150 is or a buck 50 at? It's like a hat with a clock on it. No, now I ain't never heard of that.

I know what a buck 50 is, but I don't know. Yeah, the 150s. Yeah. We had the 150s and shit. But it's like, we wear 150s. Like most people look at that and be like, huh, but Poo will have a 150 on. He'll wear a Pelly. But it's like, you can see that.

You can be him for the day. Like, you can see yourself in Poo. I think it can't see their self in Mike that is. Six, six, black as hell, don't miss a game winner. You ain't lost in the finals, nigga. I ain't never, man, like you.

Never. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, when you see Poo, even though Poo does stuff that's so amazing, he's also the dude that after the game makes his team wait on that bus

while he signed every autograph. He signed every autograph. Wow. Like what? Like, what make you say? He does that. I'm like, why are you such a good person? That's how I get to look at it at it.

I play with him in Cleveland. Why are you so nice? You know you the youngest MVP ever? Right. You got a little fucking money too. These people, you ain't got to do that. Not every one of them. He just so personable in that manner.

Like, I know for the longest everybody thought he was like too quiet and shit, but you grew to appreciate it because when he speaks, it means something. Right. It hit. You know what I'm saying? Like, I always felt like that. There's no disrespect to Mike, but D. Rose homegrown short. All right, give me your my Rushmore basketball players.

From the Chicago area. You got D. Rose, D. Wade, Isaiah Thomas, Anthony Davis, Tim Hardaway, Antoine Walker, Q, P. Bev, and Doc Rivers. You only get four, y'all? I'm going to go, I'm going to go IT. Mm-hmm. I'm going to go Poo. Mm-hmm. I'm going to go D. Wade.

Mm-hmm. You know, I'm biased. Two, I'm biased. I'm gonna throw Q Rich in that. I gotta throw Q. Rich in there just because, like, it's the same way people don't understand. People be like, who your favorite player was growing up?

As much as I like Mike, I was like, Jake hit. They'd be like, people be thrown off. Like, why you, what? It's just, but with Q Rich, I was one of them guys that it's like, you got a 360 me. The NBA had the 360 me.

You got to get me. The game got to be good. The jersey's, got to be raw. The crowd got to be nice. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Sell everything to me. When Q. Rich and D. Miles used to.

Yeah. Shorty, like, as a shorty though, I remember mixing somebody, do something crazy, get to the cup. Naturally, just. DePaul didn't even recruit me. Right. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, I was a hometown

kid. It's like, y'all could have got me off that alone. Yeah. They doing I'm like, what is that? That's so cool. So cool. So, yeah, seeing Q Rich, the only reason I'm going, all right, so I'm going to say Q Rich.

Okay. And then I'm going to put Will Bynum up there too. We're going to make a new Mount War. Okay. Because thrill mean so much to Chicago. Will had crazy game, man. I don't think people appreciated him when he was in Indiana. You can't appreciate Will Bynum

unless you come to the pro-am. and let him walk the ball down the sideline while everybody's standing up. He could trade baskets with anybody in the world. And I used to watch him as a kid. So shout out Will Bynumann. That's one of the dudes that when I went to Tech, that's why I felt so safe.

He transferred there. And then played with Jared Jack. But that was a good way. That was a good selling point for Coach Hewitt to say. You know, we got Will. You got wheels down here. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Like, yeah, thrill down. Like, boy, you can put me on the phone and thrill. Yeah, so, yeah, shout out to that boy, man. Shout out. Shout out T.A, too, man. Tony Allen did a lot of taking me under his win. It gets harder here. Now, I don't think there's any argument with the two guards.

You get Jordan and you get Kobe. But there's been a lot of debate with the three. The number three, two guard, James Harden and D. Wade. You played against both of them. I think you played a half a year with D. Wade in Cleveland. So with the beard. Houston Beard, Miami, D. Wade. Who's better?

Yeah. Who's number three on the two guard? Dway. Dway. Dang. I mean, you know, a beard was like that. That's their bet.

I ain't going to lie. It's a preference for me. Yeah, okay. Like, D. Wade was a different. type of animal like oh one of my another one of my favorite guys yeah like just because when I watched him at Marquette just some of the movements he did it was just like I think like that yeah I mean like yeah he performing at a different rate he in the league he doing this but I'm like I'd have did that but

we got we got what you call it though they could stay in the lane with us like when they got a clean when they start having to cleanse I'm definitely pulling that yeah I'm like I can't do it yet because I got to play the rules of high school You know what I'm saying, being younger. But yeah, watching D. Wade, I've seen so much D. Wade film. Like, you got to think, a lot of James Hardin's whole shit is shooting threes. That goes against everything I believe in in Chicago.

Like, being a Chicago kid, we is not allowed to shoot threes. If you lost because you were shooting threes, everybody going to be, hey, you know, he ain't going to see them play. He ain't got no will to win. You know what I'm saying? Don't get wrong. James, one of the top scores to ever do this. But it's like, if you're going to show me a guy that drives and go get it to, you know what I'm and get it out the mud that way, I don't want to watch him.

Do people realize how good- Way to champion? Do people give DeWade the credit for how good he was before his knees started to give way? So when his wish from his rookie year until probably like his second year with Braun. I think because of Bronn, CP, it was a bunch of guys that outlasted him. Yes. You know what I'm saying?

Yes. Like, shit, I came in after Braun. Braun's still outlasted me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I had an ACL blow my first year in that. Like, how Braun stay healthy is unbelievable. Right. But I think a lot of times D-Wa's greatness will get overshadowed

because people have had, you know, extended careers. You know what I'm man? Even Mello is what, 17, 18. Yeah, Mello played about 19. Yeah, guys are getting up there in these years where it's like before we was thinking a good career, 12, 13 years. It's like, Yes, you was in there.

Yeah. You did your thing. Excuse me, you probably got the fingers that go different ways. Yeah. You know, all the old players got the fingers that's crooked as hell. All type of stuff. But it's, um... But now 15 to 20 years are going to be commonplace.

Because you look at Bron at 23, but you look at KD, KD. Really, KD got 18, even though he missed that year with Fank, KD. You look at Steph. Stealth. Yeah, it's still like they got another five years. No, they look like that. I see KD can play another thing with thing. three to five years.

No, Katie, he ain't got no weight on him either. I think that man could play that he about 50, bro. Katie, he's going to be one of them guys. Like, you know, he's still got like guys like Catino Mobley where it just be like, bro, you still, who? Like that. Yeah. They just can't turn it off.

Katie, you're going to be one of them guys that's like 50 at LA Fitness. He's going to let all y'all get some, man. I can tell, Katie, that's going to be you, man, LA Fitness K. Chris Paul, obviously, it didn't, the way it ended. Yeah. You know, I think he said at the beginning of it just going to be his last year.

And for him not to get that opportunity, the clippers moved in a different direction, and they trade him to Toronto. Toronto basically say, don't even worry about showing up. We're going to try to move you. Obviously, they couldn't, and so they ended up releasing him.

I hate to see great players' career ends like this. I'm not saying that he was going to end, you know, averaging 10 assists the game or being on the championship team. But for it to go out like this, y'all, it's sad. It is. How I process it, though, he had worked his way into knowing. Like, I don't think Chris Paul was as blindsided as everybody else.

Like, we was all like, what out there, y'all? Yes. But it's like, if you know Chris Paul and you know some of the top players in the league, like, these guys ain't getting super blindsided. They kind of have an idea in the summer before they come. Right. What it's going to be, what it could not be. If this goes left, what do we do then?

I think the pride of not wanting to put the ball down completely bothered Chris. Like, if you're going to go out and say, this is my last year. It kind of has to be a tour where you know you're playing 25, 30 minutes in every city. Yeah. Every city gets to see you for the last time. I think that's what he was hoping for. But that's not how to be. He was trying to do right by the fans.

And they didn't allow him to do that. I feel like that was messed up because, like, right now it bothers me because it's like CP at home. Yeah. He started out trying to play this year. And Anthony Edwards need a point guard. How dare you, L.A. Clippers. That's how I feel.

The Houston Rockies need a point guard. No, don't send him back there. He just left him over there. It's okay. It's been a long time since he's been in Houston. No, that's okay. Let's send Jai over there or something. Jaya have fun over there.

Jail like wings. Clippers posted a tribute to Chris Paul. Chris Paul wife responded, Girl bye. Wait, say it again. The Clippers posted a tribute video to C.P. His wife's like, girl, bye. Shout out to her.

Shout out to her. That's called Standing Old Vindish, right? Right. Yeah, stand on that. I mean, I don't have a problem with it. I think that I happen to enjoy when people call a spade a spade. So it's like any wives that come in and say what they got to say. She don't bother nobody.

She don't come out here saying nothing. What happened? Why did it not go the way that Chris Paul went back home? This is where he had his best years. Lob City. Yeah. Why didn't it work? I don't know why it didn't.

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There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. Why they did it. I know why it didn't work. Why it didn't work? Same way it didn't work in Houston. He need the ball? They both need the ball.

He needed it. James needed it. Right. The only way to make the players around them good is if they pass it. Right. But they don't play a game where everybody can get their game on and we can make this make sense. So sometimes they have to come out together. One, you got to sit early.

You got to play them in rotation and then hope that they figure it out at the end together. Right. I think that around the league, people saw it. They had to match up against it, beat it, when they, was together. So it's like when you see it now, it's like, hmm, I didn't think that when I saw them rejoined forces,

it's like, now this time, now that they're older and now that they're in LA and C.P. say he's going to retire after this year, now this the year they're going to go to the championship and win. It's like, that's dumb. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that's what I didn't get. I'm like, C.P. say he's going to retire. They didn't work out in Houston, they're trying to figure it back out. I get it. We add in Kauai to the fold. But you remember we was laughing, calling it the unction.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what they was calling the unction. Everybody's an uncle around this movie. Right. You know what I mean? I like Zubak. I like what they had going on.

Right. But it's like, I ain't think y'all going to walk out here and win a championship. You know what I'm saying? If you couldn't keep your body healthy two, three years ago, I'm even more worried about you playing too many minutes now. Like, now I want to put you a minute restriction

to make sure your hammies and your cap. and your calves are good going into the playoffs because you keep having a problem. So it's like when you look at it from that point, you don't see it as they tried it doing bogus. I think it just they thought it was going to be doing better than it was doing. They thought they would figure it out a little better.

So when it came to that, it's like, oh, like, and I bet Christmas, Clippers probably did feel bad, but they got to do what they got to do. It's still a business at the end of the day. And that's why you've seen CP on some, I don't know if it was a pod or an interview, but I've seen them laughing about it.

You know what I'm saying? Because he's like at the end of the day, it's a business. Y'all not been to stop the NBA and call timeout. And like, let's figure out Chris Paul first. Right. He know they're not going to do that. You know what I'm saying? He's a professional.

He knows what's going on. So shout of the Chris Paul, man. Even though you had to retire the way you retire it, however you wanted to be as far as a tour of you going around and the fans appreciating you, you earn that shit, bro. No bullshit. Like, you ain't, they don't have to be in a jersey. the Kobe it don't have to be like that everybody don't get that

that's cool show up in a t-shirt show up in a t-shirt and just going to just going the crowd and that's paying it forward and up bro take a couple of pitches

with people smile you still CP though whether they did you right or not you see P on my soul winning a championship in Cleveland you're down 3-1

because the year before I believe I believe if you have Kyrie and Kevin Love, I don't think they beat you the first year. I don't. Now, we'll never know. Just like they say, well, if Jermond doesn't miss games five, game five,

you're not winning, but he was there, game six and seven, but who know? You're down three, one. What's your mindset? Because you hear the thing, LeBron's like, and Tailu said, look, we go there, we win one game.

All we got to do is win one good. Come back to Cleveland. We know if we come back to Cleveland. if they're not beating us in game six and then we got a game seven. So what was your mindset? I ain't even have a mindset for real. I was at that point just saying it's back to the wall.

So it's like, I'm like, we're going to win the next game just because it's hard to close out a series. Right. Y'all probably going to let us steal the next one. Right. Then y'all was like, y'all going to want to win. In your build on game seven? Yeah, like y'all ain't going to want to play us at home

and win on the road again. So y'all ain't going to be playing. Y'all gonna take it if y'all get it. But y'all gonna be kind of chill knowing you got Game 7 back home. Right. But the reason we were so calm, Joe, when Brum was on that bus,

and he was talking and saying, like, could we beat them here? Then their mindset gonna be this, this, and this, and this is going to happen. And then, yeah. And then we're going to come back, we're going to do this, and then we're going to come back here.

We're going to be here for Game 7, and that's when we send their ass home. And I'm looking like, this nigga just, fast forward. You just simulated the season on your phone or so short. You simulate a season on 2K. Just simulate a row. But I remember sitting down thinking because, you know, we back there.

We conversating, everybody conversating, but I remember the plane getting extra quiet. It was either a plane of the bus. But we started getting quiet, and I seen everybody in their mind kind of just go like, yeah, that shit can happen, bro. Yeah. Yeah. But it was like he right. Yeah.

When we beat them, they is going to do that. I wouldn't want to win on the road again. You're like, wow, you might be on to something. And Draymond got in trouble and got kicked out the game. We played that game six and they wasn't talking. That was the quietest game we ever played. Boy, we've been talking shit. Because that game five, Kyrie and Braun go crazy.

Oh, yeah. They go crazy. 41 and 41. LeBron had 41 points, 11 assists. Carrey had. And then they come back game six. LeBron goes 41 and I think 16 rebounds. It goes crazy again.

And so now you got games up. This for all the marbles. Man. You're 73 and 9. They had only lost like three games, four games all year. I'm telling you, when that man had everybody sitting there puzzled, looking on a shit, what? We looking at them and then I started thinking about it.

Ain't nobody in our league been through this shit more than this man right here. This man, no coaching styles now. Like, we're preparing for Golden States basketball team. This man talking to me about what Mark Jackson had them do, but now what Steve Kerr got them doing and how are we going to take advantage of this, because this is what Steve Kerr's principles are. And I'm looking like, we plan stuff, Kurt. I'm garden clay Thompson Right And you talk about principles

You talk about Steve Kerr system But it like It'll take you outside yourself Though to be like Let me think harder about this day Because I clearly don't know shit Sicker This shit worry about they scheme

He's not even worried about the players I'm like I'm trying to In my mind Steph do this Bop Bop Bop go to I ain't going to yell your shit out Don't worry still But you know what I'm saying?

He goes through his little movements, whatever. And I'm knowing, okay, he's going, uh-uh, he's about to pass this ball and then we're going off the three screen. Right. Soon as he, uh-uh-uh, he throw it behind his back. I'm already closing in the space to grab stuff and we're going to go off of every screen. Right. Brian, the type of dude that be like, he going to stop playing.

He going to be guarding over here. He know I got to do that run. That man will stop doing whatever he's doing, turn his body. and watch me run to see, like, if you hit him, even a little bit, he's going to completely leave his man and go, because he already know what the play is. Like, you watch him in all the playoff games. He always look around, look around.

They're trying to take the ball out. No, don't let him go right here. Turn, get on this side. Get on this side. Like, he's going to do that. Make him spin around. Make him do this. Jump ball happen.

Oh, no, show, show, show, show, show, show, come over here. Come over here. Calm down. Relax. He, no, show, get your ass over here. You go over there, they'd be the tap the ball, shit, be right in your hand, laying the shit up. Like, God damn, like, how did he know? How the hell did he know?

Because his NBA career is older than some people kids. Yeah. Like, the shit is really wild. But you start thinking about, like, he, at 17, his man started working like a grown man. Like, at 17, we went to college. So it's like, now we're learning how to be, you know, you learn how to be a young man. Like, I was a boy, and now I'm a young man. He skipped young man.

Yeah, go straight to man. He skipped that. Straight the man. What you know? I am the man. He went to be in demand. So it's like, for him, when he unpacks and looks at a situation, it's like how, like, how you know I'm a professional. So you'll never come up to me and be like, okay, today we're going to start with a layup.

Right. We can skip that part. Right. you know you could look at me and be like all right shunt when you do this you're going to be coming off I want you to snake the pick and roll and just think about attacking X4 straight down here you could tell me that I can go out there and do it right away

Bron like we come in the gym there's people that got to practice layups and see if they got to do this I need to snake and go downhill Bron be like we plan uh like say for this year

Say he would have to match up with, I don't know, Detroit. No, because they run stuff like the bad boys. So when they do this, them two bigs, I'm going to have them bigs up every time. They're not going to be bruises down there. I'm going to have them up. So we're running horns action this whole game. He'd be like, what? We ain't ran horns all year.

Y'all killing off the angle, pick and row. Why are we running horns? Because he's like, I'm not going to deal with them two bruisers. Right. Not doing it. It's the first round. My body will be completely healthy by the time we play these people over here. Right.

And I'll be thinking about it like, bro, are you telling me? Yeah. I'll be like, bro, are you telling me that you're going to abandon the game plan that our coach just gave us? He's like, yeah. All right. He said it. Man, what y'all running? Sean, what are you running?

Listen, oh, bro. I trust me. J.R. could have tested this, though. I have seen them call a play, and that man grabbed the board and say no. And then T. Lou looking at the shit like, I see, go, let's see it. Shit. T. Louie, like, shit.

Run it. Yeah, run it to death too. Like, if they lose to it, run it again. So it was like being around that, like having that person next to you in your locker room, they give you a lot of confidence. 3-1, 3-0. Don't matter. If you have somebody that's like, he just chat GBT of the NBA, bro.

My soul, this is the best way I could describe Shorty, he is chat GBT. Chat GBT. Is it B or T? P. Chat GPT. GPT. Yes. GPT.

That's Braun, Joe. You can ask him anything. He know. He know the coaches. He know the assistant coaches. He know the player development. I'm like, bro, you should. I don't got the mental capacity.

for all that shit. You know what I'm saying? He talked about film. It was funny as hell. It took me about a month to get used to him saying X1, X2, X3, X4. I don't like, bro, stop with like, but he is really programmed for this because, again, we went to school. So we've heard different styles. He was never introduced to that. Get straight to the point. Make it efficient. Make sure we win. If you don't win, you fail. That's how Brian feel about it. Like, And the way he's able to approach it, it's like, bro, I got, when I went to Sacramento, they was trying to figure out how I was able to help them lead and do everything. I'm like, I went from hanging with Mello to hanging with Bron.

To learn from lead by example and then learn for, I led you by example, but if you don't get it, I'll come teach it to you. Right. I had never had that. Never had that. Most athletes, once they ascend and they're way better than you. Yeah. I'm going to do it.

I'll give you one pointer. If you can't do it, give it to me. Right. Because I only got time for you to be, right. We'll have time for your learning curve. I need to win. Brian will give you the learning curve.

Oh, you don't like it. Okay. Well, maybe we should change the system a little bit because he's uncomfortable over here and I need him. You know what I'm saying? I had never been around that type of basketball mind. I never dealt with somebody that had the balls enough to look a coach in the eye and say,

I'm not running that. He was the second. Jason Keir did it. Unbelievable. He was going to be a coach, Nicky. I couldn't believe that shit. The block.

The block. Did you see, did you, I mean, because somebody shot an air ball. Steff gets it, pass it, Iggy gets it, passing to Steph,

step bounce past it, back to, I never saw LeBron. Oh, yeah, no, I know two, three coming. Come on, man. You ain't supposed to See him?

But Iger just knew he had it. You better walk by faith, not by sight. You hear me? Two, three, on the court. Walk by faith, my boy. He's coming. He'll be there. Take the elevator.

Take the elevator. He was like, just. Take the steps. Just in case. I'm going with both hands. Because if you try to come up, I'm going to block it with this one. Yeah, if you reverse. I'm here.

I'm here. Yeah. Unbelievable. It's one of the most unbelievable block. He didn't realize he did it. I told him he did it after the day. I'm like, boy, it wasn't this that was cold, shuddy. It was the left hand just in case he got cute.

Yeah. J.R. did an incredible job, man. He ran him down, but y'all always see me on tape all the time when I used to do it. I would run you thinking you fin to get you a dump. I'm going to take away your power step. By outrunning, I'm going to run faster than you, and I'm going to swipe at the ball, so you've got to move it away. But that's slow down your momentum.

By the time you jump, you're not getting a good jump. Right. But you need a perfect jump for this man, Joe. It ain't even close, bro. Honestly, if you end up like Jason Richardson where y'all make contact at the rim, it hurts. You know what I'm saying? That shit hurts. Dude, he's not supposed to be that big.

Pause. Far on the left. But they don't make babies like that no more. You know what I'm saying? That's one of one baby. That's a one-of-one. But it's like, bro, honestly, I don't know why Iggy did. that. Iggy and Chicago

got two. I don't know why you did that, to tell you the truth, in retrospect. You think he should have dunked it? Shoot a jumper. Shoot a jumper. He got a layup. Do he? Did he? He didn't. He didn't.

He didn't. You never have a leg. You don't have shit. You have the ball. Fuck. You have it. How many other people that's ever played in the NBA could have done that? What, a run chase down? Chase him down like that. Not that one. that and not in that fashion

but yeah everybody do that I think that's a that's a basketball most most athletes no not I mean basketball players but an athlete do people realize that he came from the far side that he was on the he was over here I think everybody saw it

I hope y'all seen this shit at that moment how loud did the place get quiet it got quiet we was on the road that's game seven the only thing you can hear is the bench Oh, that last two minutes was beautiful. Oh, it was beautiful.

It was so quiet in that. You know how loud that place get? That place is a circus all the time. That shit was so quiet. That shit was so quiet. It was so weird. It was such a good feeling to hear them shut the- Did you know, like, we got him now.

Once he made that play. Because nobody can score for the law. Y'all had gone like two minutes before. I ain't going to lie. Playing them like skin me in, bro. I didn't concede no victory, though. After he did that, even when I checked in, I was like, 10 of his hell, Shuddy.

I wasn't switching screens. I wasn't doing nothing. Only person I switched with was J.R. I'm like, me and J.R. man, come together. I'm a push step. He's going to push me, Clay, and we're going to go out like that. But it ain't going to be no detachment.

No. It ain't going to be none of that. And I'm not switching with somebody that ain't going to be for sure. Me and J.R. looked at each other. Before we go out there, with me and you, switch. Bad. everybody else indecisiveness it ain't gonna be my fault y'all

I'm gonna run through a wall if y'all see me coming I'm bet your money I'm running through it you know what I'm saying but I didn't because we was playing stuff like they didn't hit so many big shots G and so many shots that it's like that too you know what I mean like how you with that you shot that right you shooting logo threes brother that's a lot to me like I ain't you know what I mean so it's like Brian blocked it.

He did that, but it's like, yeah, we got to keep going. There's more things to do. Right. You know what I'm saying? Even when Kyle hit the three, we were so hype. But we're like, I'm like, and then you get it. And now you got Steph and you got Kevin Love,

K. Love, out there on him. And K. Love, going side to side, front to back. And that's what would be crazy, K, Klo, because that let me know you was lying. The rest of the year, you were just lying to me. Get switched to all the people. They're by people just going by you, doing all type of stuff.

Steph do it, though, at the end. It's for the win. It's for all the models. Strap. And he back. Mirroring the ball. Keeping his hand out the cookie job. K. Love is unbelievable defensively.

You might be able to do something now, K. Love, but yeah, he got himself in trouble doing that shit. We laughed about that shit, though, man. That's what it takes in the championship, bro. Like, you know, winning the championship, you just see some things that is like, things that it's like you, you, you, I'm Dylan Playfair.

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I'm saying. I got kids, right? Don't talk about you. Yeah. In the championship, oh, we were saying all type of shit. This, you're missing a sign. What the fuck? Shott, what the fuck?

What the fuck? You know what I'm saying? But it's, you only take a... I got you. I got you. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Right.

But I want to do good. I love you. Like, yeah, but that was, like, that was, like, being a lot. on the court for that game though and feeling like everybody together like feeling like if anything go left like everybody doing it though

right for fight breakout both benches is clearing right y'all gonna have to suspend you y'all have to forfeit this whole shit wait a couple of weeks and we're gonna have to come back and play this but it's like that's how

serious and how intense it is in that moment and then to be on the road so it's like y'all crowd finally could be quiet so we can hear oh my god we couldn't hear shit that whole series, though. I think for me personally,

I think the greatest LeBron James we've ever seen is when he went back to Cleveland. I forgot you a LeBron guy. I'm a LeBron guy. He's wearing that goat head. I'm a guy, he's the guy, man. I watched him

the first years in Cleveland and he was phenomenal. He goes to Miami and he's more efficient. He's shooting 55, 50%, 56% from the floor. And D-Wa to Chris Bosch. But when he comes back to Cleveland, he's at the apex of his superpower.

What he did when Kyrie left and get back to the finals and then that 2018 Lord Shump. What, that man, Shump, and nobody could do that. Nobody is going to ever do that again. What he did,

ending when y'all lost game one, and then he goes crazy in game seven, and then Toronto. Oh, trust me, I was on the team. You ain't got to, you ain't got to, you ain't got to. Tell it to me.

You ain't got to sell it to me. You heard what David Griffin said. I'll wear my jury proud. But you heard what David Griffin said. David Griffin said the reason why you guys were able to come out of the East because the East was the weakest has ever been. But why didn't nobody else come out of the East? I don't be kidding.

When people throw these random stats out here, this is the weakest to East been or this is this, this is that. Then everybody should be in the league then. I'm just trying to figure out. Tell me why nobody else, if it was so weak and only LeBron, because you had a 60-win, a Hawks team that you guys sweat. But the West, the West was just really good. So it's like when you have, they dispersed the power over there in the West pretty well. I think, I don't know how it got like that.

It wasn't nobody coming out of the West, but Golden State. Damien Lillard. He wasn't coming out to West. No, I'm saying the battle. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. The road. The road. Like, Braun happened to deal with Jeff Teague and Kyle Corver.

You know what I'm saying? But they were the number one seed. You see what I'm saying? That's why he said the week was, it was, I'm not, and Teague, my homie, you know what I'm saying? But I'm being factual in this where it's just like. What about DeRos? What about Lebranto, Toronto?

It's like when you in Toronto, DeMar was a threat. But it's like we don't feel like it's hard to win in here. Right. Like the Hawks didn't have a place where it's like you feel like it's hard to win in here. It's like if you take care of Jeff Teague, don't let him do too much. Don't go under no screens because he's going as soon as he started getting it going. If Jeff come out there and he pop you once or twice, whatever. But if you go under and he feel disrespected and that shot go in, you end for a long night with Jeff Teet.

Right. But it's like if we play this correctly, we know y'all don't really have the star power. Like, Braun can go off for 41 and 11. Who y'all got? Like, it's hard to have two people do 41. Like, Kai and Brown have 41. It's like, we ain't too worried about y'all having two people that score 41. Right.

Because, first off, one ain't going to score 41 over my dead body. I ain't having it. Right. I'm not having it. So where the 41 coming from? You know what I'm saying? So it's like to have two people doing that, it's like, that's why he's saying the week, the East wasn't weak, it was weak to what team we had.

Right. Because our team shouldn't have been playing together. Like, I'll be the first to say it. Braun shouldn't have been allowed to come to our game, sit down on the sideline, and then in a week I get traded to the Cavs with JR. Right. How is that okay? I'll never forget that being like, why did Bronn come watch us play?

We played with the Knicks. And Bronn came and sat down. I had never seen that. An NBA player sit down at an NBA game that he's not planning. Right. Like, he has nothing to do with this game. He's here as a fan. I'm like, this is weird.

Yeah, he watched y'all see what y'all. I wasn't playing. I was, I was a shoulder injury. They said y'all traded the to do. I'm like, huh? Wow. Hmm. And then I got to.

Before you played with the ring. I went my ring on a chain, though. I don't really wear it. Before you played with LeBron, did you realize how good he was? Yeah. Yeah. It just, I was forced to hate him.

You ain't feeling to win the rings every year. I don't mean this bitch. He'll just win all the rings, bro. I was big on that. Like, even when I bet Bronn, I tried to do my first couple. He laughed. He thought the shit was funny. Right.

But he also respected. It's like, bro, I just been trained to be mellow homie. Like, you're in mellow homies, but I'm not supposed to be your homie. Right. Like, I feel like mellow, if I was out in about one day in the summer, my second year, and I'm just out hanging with Bron, I feel like mellow would be looking at that like, what's up with you? Like, you feel, what's up with you?

Like, what's up with you, dude? So it was like, I had this loyalty to Mello where it was like, I had to get used to being Bron being teammates. Right. But it's like, again, once you're on the court with him and he's just out there making it easy for you, you just be like,

Mello, he ain't so bad, but. Yeah, good, cool for real, bro. Like, he's cool, he passed that bitch, though, for real, like, we get money over here. You and Kyrie are cool. Are you surprised that Kyrie wanted to leave and go get his own? No, no. If you know Kyrie, Kyri is a Kobe guy.

Like, Kyrie wanted to beat Braun. And that's okay. Like, people would be like, man, that was dumb. I woulda. Yeah, you would have teamed up. You would have teamed up. You're a team-up type of doubt. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that's who you are. That's not Kyrie. Right. Kari is like the only way I could be crowned the best is to beat the best. Right. I got to go head to head with you. I can't team up with you. So it's like for Kai Rhee.

And then picture, you at your crib, you know what I'm saying? They give you a career. You got your mama crib, right? And then they just bring you a new brother. And then your mama like, well, he's the only one. Like, you was the one that get to have the house key and do whatever he wants. And now they, oh, no, you get to drive the car. Right.

Yeah, we got a new brother now. But he's the only one get to drive the car. Why? What may him a better driver to me? And it's like for people not to understand that's what happened and then be like, oh, he should have put his pride to the side. Why? What's wrong with that? Braun is great. Kyrie want to beat him.

Kyrie want y'all to have to say, I beat Bron on the biggest stage of it. He wants us be able to say that as a competitor. What's wrong with that? I don't think that was going to ever happen. Whether we think it's going to happen is not, that's the thing. We also laughed at Kobe Bryant and said he said he wasn't going to be. be like Mike. Y'all remember that? Yeah. Do y'all remember when he was wearing eight and everybody was like, this little kid is crazy?

Right. Because he's shooting it terrible. He's shooting it awful. It takes delusion, bro. Yeah. It's a very fine line between self-confidence and delusion. That in itself is a skill. They was going in on Kyrie that year.

Previous years before that when he was in Cleveland, by his goddamn self. Yeah. Saying he wasn't that good as the number one. Right. Maybe he's not that good. Maybe he shouldn't have been chosen. number one. Maybe his foot failed him. Maybe this, maybe that he dealt me. Yeah, I think he should have been number one, but I don't think they, be honest. You think they won in the championship

if LeBron don't come back to Cleveland? We'll never know. Bro, you was getting the lottery. This is what you're not getting, though. Like I said, yeah, Kyrie will never know. He had to leave because Braffed it up. No, I'm saying if LeBron doesn't come back to Cleveland. What? Does Kyrie get one? Yes. We'll never know. Because he's got one. It's kind of hard to say that when you get Andrew Bennett. first overall pick, you get Andrew Wiggins first overall pick, and you get Tristan Thompson. That don't look like

a championship winning formula to me, show up. When Brom brought his ass over there, we beat them to kick off the season. We didn't think that was championship shit. When they came and got us and then grabbed Mazzie, I said, all right, now we got a chance. Yeah.

Once Timothy Mazzgov got there, and I saw him and Tristan, then I'm like, you went and got me and J.R. crazy ass. Oh, this worse. He got Mons Golf 16 male. Yeah. And then Mons golf left and just... Hey, man.

Jumsey, man. Hey, man. People like gold rings, man. They like it. They like it, man. That gold ball special, boy. What makes LeBron different? Shit, all the shit we just said?

Because when I hear people like, LeBron want to be like, LeBron, like, really want, hey, Shump, I want you to be a part of this. Kobe, like, I'm a pack. man you can't make it give me give me the damn ball i'm tired of you colby didn't want to be like Kobe had no friends

Kobe softened up as he got towards the tail end because I know a lot of people that when Kobe was at his absolute apex he didn't soften up though Kobe waited until he retired and then he started me a night but people say oh I was talking to Kobe when Kobe was with in the beginning his first 10 years I ain't hear nobody talking about oh yeah me and Kobe cool Kobe giving me give me

saying he was an asshole. They said he wasn't going to be shit. They told him, they used to tear Kobe up. They did. Even George, you heard him in the All-Star game. That little bit of that little little... They was playing, though. They were playing.

But he's like, uh-uh. He got to get it on his own. Don't pass it to it. Real talk. But it's like, that's, that's Kai. You have to allow me to hate you. You have to. Because I need to know if I'm the best.

And Kyle will not concede telling LeBron He's better than him. We might all know it and say, hey, man, he's way taller. It's a bad matchup. You off the bam. You toss Kyle that ball and say, you got to play one-on-one with LeBron James for your life. And I don't think I think he's going to lose. I can agree with that.

I can believe it. Like whether we on the outside, it's like, David and Goliath, you know what I'm saying? Whether we're thinking that or not. He don't give a f***. Yeah. And that's why we threw him that ball and watched him do that to Steph Curry. Yeah. Because he don't give a fuck.

Oh, yeah. He forgot. For some reason he forgot Steph Curry got the championship already. Yeah. He shot him dead in his face. Yeah. Unanimous MVP, 73 and 9.

Cause what they got to do with me right now? Fuck you. That would he say. How about that? But it's like, now he did it to Braun and people was like, I'm like, bro, that's, that is what it is, man. Brian, one of the greats, Joe,

Brian going to be on the Rushmore, dog. You're telling me if I, if I would have had the chance to say, hey, man, I get to play against Mike for the championship. Hell yeah, buckle up. We're not teammates. Michael Jordan. What?

I don't care. I got to be on the come fly with me tapes. I got to show a nigga I beat. I didn't want the championship. I don't care who I beat to get it. You let me ask you question. You think Magic Johnson took less solace in beating Philadelphia or the Pistons or somebody else for the championship than he took out of beating the Celtics? Or you think the Celtics is like, man, we beat the Rockets twice.

It ain't the same as beating the Lakers. No. Yeah, it don't matter, but you definitely, if it was supposed to be Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, now if I got to go through, if the Lakers had to go through the film No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, it's like, if you ain't got to play Larry Burr on that stage and Larry ain't make it, he would have been mad as fuck. Like, you better get your ass out to east so we can put on this show.

Right. I ain't going to keep having these media people saying, oh, well, Larry didn't make it to the show. That ain't my fault. Exactly. That ain't my fault. Exactly. Man, why you got beat with Trey Young?

Why you got beat with Ice Trey, man? Ice tray say after what he did to you a couple of times, I guess you are. No, he was talking to Pat Beb. Him and Pat Bebv got into it. That wasn't me. Me and Trey, I ain't got no problem with Trey. I just, when they had a quote, you know, I'd be on ESPN. They got cameras in my face and shit.

No, but I had a quote. They were saying, you know, they were talking about his value. Yeah. And everybody was like lighting up about his value. And I'm like, I just see why the team didn't extend him. Like, I can see it. I don't know why y'all can't see it, but they're not going to extend him because they're damn near fin to start looking for a new direction. Right.

He's a small guard. They tried it. He took him as far as it could go. He's done a great job. Like, I didn't see nothing wrong with what I said, but, you know, when they get clipped up. Yeah. They say basically, like, I wasn't big on Trey. Like, he don't get nobody involved.

And I'm like, no, bro, it's just the makeup of the team, the makeup of the league changed. And it's okay. Yeah. Go get something for Trey. And you know what they saw? And this happens a lot in football. Quarterbacks don't let backup quarterbacks take snaps because I don't want you to see what he can or can't do.

Trey got hurt. And guess what you got a chance to see? Jalen Johnson. Now Jalen Johnson giving you 24, 10, and 8 as a 6-8 guy. And now he can guard the point. But he can guard the point. And Trey, you had to hide him on defense. Yes.

But now you got Jalen whether he's good at that. defense, it doesn't matter, he has the size. Yes. He can just go like this. You know what I'm saying? It's like when you can do that and then you can pair it with oh man, we can now switch a ball screen. Right. And as long as the three, four, or five that we have in the game can slide his puppies, we can switch everything on the court. Y'all ain't never getting to the room. Right. You know what I'm saying? And it's like for GM, if you see that,

I was just pointing out what was obvious. Yes. I'm like, don't get me wrong. But why didn't get mad? You play the game. busts a fantasy draft and you lead Trey Young sitting right down. I'm snatching him. Come on, Trey, you come play with us. Huh? What? Come play with us. Yeah. But why do? Why do?

People get emotional over shit like that. But, sure. You guys, the same thing. Professional athletes says, I want professional athletes to critique professional athletes. And then when professional athletes critique them and they don't like what they say, now he need to shut up. Yeah.

It's a double-edged sword, man. Some guys, they'll get into it about it, but for the most part, when we see guys in the summer, you're able to talk. We all grown-ass man, man. If I ever say something, dog, y'all got an issue. Y'all know y'all come holl at me. Yoniston came hollied at me. I said some shit. Me and my brother were just going off laughing and shit.

He said, hey, man, you all can say whatever y'all won't. Do whatever y'all got to do. Don't question my integrity for the game ever again. I'm like, you know what? You're right. And I went on camera and, you know what I'm saying? Fessed up to it. Like, no, he came in and he checked me.

But then I wrote my P.S. After that, like, but he didn't say he didn't want to get traded. He only checked me about that. He didn't say he went out of that. Right. All right. But it's cool, man. I think that, you know, it's going to happen.

Like, if I'm going to talk about it, like, sometimes you're not going to like what I got to say because y'all lost. Yeah. You ain't going to like what I got to say because I don't see it that way. Like, I play point guard. They threw me at 3&D. I ain't like that shit, but they saw me as a 3-&D guy for that team. Like, nigga, I played point guard. I would have did it totally different.

So it's like, it's tomato, whatever, but I don't think that guys think I don't like them. Like, Trey's my guy. Him and P. Bev got into it because they just went back and forth too many times. And then it was like, well, play me one-on-one. It's like, yeah, y'all going too far. We got kids. I don't have time for that. But it's like, Trey is.

one, you're going to have fun having AD over there. Can you imagine Trey and AD in the pick and roll? Oh, no, I know what time it is. Oh, he's going to pick him probably, roll A. If he was doing what he was doing with Clint Capella. That's what I'm saying. If AD, people, AD been heard so long, people forgot what he looked like healthy. Oh, I know he is.

He was 26 and 12 guys. People talk shit. I'm like, dog, y'all better realize who that is over there, though. Like, these injuries just started. Like this shit just started Oh he's special Yeah I'm like y'all not fend to do this to AD Like this is all-star shit

Yeah So yeah I ain't too worried about Trey Young and him over there shout out that boy I was just saying I know why the hawks Weren't gonna extend Yeah KD We've never seen a guy

This skill This tall I mean Dirk was Was a guy that was seven foot tall That could shoot the three to one leg of three But Dirk wasn't putting it on the floor like this.

Not at all. We ain't never seen a guy this tall, this skill ever in the history of the game. And I'm not so sure. Now, maybe Wimby. Hey, Wimby. Wemby. Check out of handle. It's not as crazy as KD.

But Wimby, though. But we had Lamar Odom. Lamar wasn't shooting the three. This guy. KD. What? He wasn't shooting the three like this. Not like that, but he was shooting a three.

Yeah. He was handling the rock. Man, look. I'm saying we've seen it before. We've seen a lot of 6-11 guy. When Lamar come out at Rhode Island, he was special. Now, he could pass the ball. I mean, you're talking about a 6-11 point guard.

But that's what I mean. I mean, we've seen K.D.'s body, not as skinny. He might be the skinniest version of it. For sure, for sure. But we have seen guards that are exceptionally tall. Yes. It's just we've never seen. That can shoot it like this?

I think Kay Slick plays his position. Most people that. are capable of what he's capable of, try and play a different way. Yeah. Like, K lets the game come to him. He plays very efficient. Shoots the hell out the ball

and tries to be conscious of, like, giving it up so other people can get him. He likes keeping his weapons in. And he still, he don't fall in love. He ain't fell in love. Like everybody else try to shoot three, three, three. KD, or you run them off the three, you'll get to the midi.

Yeah, it must be nice to be able to still shoot middies, man. They were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they, they were, they were, they were, they were, the three. That was my game, bro. The midi, that was, historically speaking, that is my game.

I played point guard. I like get to the elbow for a pull-up. When I went to Houston and shot that pull-up and got taken out after that timeout, I could not believe where the game was going. I'm like, is the game really come into a place? Yes. I can't shot, fake shot. Celebrate your pride with the station that says bold, vibrant and diverse as you are.

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all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. I have to fake it and step to the side to get behind the line. Yeah, they like shot fake,

let him buy shot. They're like, that's a shot fake shot. I'm like, no, no. That's just, and they was looking at me dead in my face. Like, because he went all the way over there, step back. And I was like,

Wow, y'all are serious. They're like, yes, statistics. Yeah. We're going to win. Couldn't believe. If Kevin Durant doesn't join the Warriors. They ain't be none. Golden State's never beating.

Go off my ring. You got it up. You got it up, okay? Real fault. First year was stuff up. Because I should have three rings. Mm-hmm. Kyle halved his knee.

Caleb got hurt. My shoulder popped out. and JR needed a new back. We should have, I feel like the first one we could have did if we was healthy. Second one we was doing anyway. We would have got that third one and then K.1 would bring his tall, lanky ass over there.

What we're supposed to do now. We just learned how to defend all them. Right. You're going to add you. What a ass of. What a asshole, that was just, like, we finally was like, yeah, we got a good match up with them. We know how we matching up with them.

Right. No, no. Rookieeasing. Is there, is there an extent that guys can go? Because normally you play for dinner, you got to go to the heck you to Ruth Chris, or they take it to a master's or a famous restaurant, and you got to take care of the, you got to take care of the guy. I don't know.

In NFL, we used to have individuals, and I think they do it as an offense and the defense. The first round picks, you know, you buy us, we go to Massaro, we go get them drinks, you know, get the King Lloyd, you know, we go get them steaks, that lobster, you know. That media will, why? Yeah. Is there an extent that it can go too far?

Eating too good? No, man, come on, man. You shouldn't eat no damn $30,000 worth, though, Shump. Well, are you talking about like a team dinner, or are you just talking about... I'm talking about... Do y'all do it as a team, the rookies? They don't be hazing.

Now, oh, I'll give what you saying. No, no, no. They're not hazing with, like, a certain item on the menu. Yeah. But, yeah, they'll definitely tell you to clear the team, check. Yeah, clear that. Because they low-key teaching you financial literacy, right?

Like, we're teaching you what not to do. How about tell us not what to do it? Don't put out of those 15 shots of King Louis and $200 and a shot. Oh, no, King Luke, that's crazy. Louis X 13, all that's crazy. Yeah. You get to doing all that. And then y'all buying the bottle of wine that's $10,000.

Y'all buying the cabas or the other? That's wild. That's wild. I think that's fucked up. But I remember my teammates, no, Melo never made me pay no shit like He made me pay for a dinner that was probably like 7,500. It was about 7,500 for the dinner. How many was it?

It would probably, we probably had about three, four teammates. Excuse me. Driver. Huh, three or four teammates and a driver, 70, 500. A driver, a driver, Ello's wife at the time, her people. So they're probably about 12 to 15 people. You know that's still a lot, right? That damn their $500 a person.

Man, I watched this, and get up, drive, got over everybody. He's like, yeah, I got to take them back. But he ain't never left me with no checking shit. Yeah. But he just left. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm just vibing, finish it.

They called, the girl come break that bitch. Right to me. So I pay it I'm like I ain't gonna let him feel like You know what I said? I embarrassed him or nothing But I was low-key feeling it like damn $7,500 like what are we doing

Like I'm like do all the Dinnus costs this much You know what I'm processing it And then after I took care of I believe the next day Like Shorty came in there gave me like 10 billions cash Because he's like

I just wanted you just like You don't pay for nothing He had always took care of everything He just wanted him To see if you do it. Amari take it. But he also wanted me to understand like

if you take this many people, this type of check you're looking at now. You know what I'm saying? It might be $7,500. You feel how that felt because you wasn't ready to pay it? Right. I'm going to be taking 15 people out to eat. You know what I'm saying? It was shit like that.

Yeah, I like that. He's a hundred million dollar man. You know what I'm saying? And that was his second big bag. Yeah. So it's like hearing from him, hearing from Amari at the time, it was just like Tyson Chandler. Yeah.

They just did a great job. But they would make me do certain stuff And I'd be thinking like, damn, this hazing shit going too far Next day you come in They bless you, make sure you straight I'm going to ask you one thing about Cleet When you guys had, because it was KD's second

Was it second year? Second year there. And you guys, LeBron played, I think, his best playoff game ever, End of the game with 51 8 and 8. I don't think he can play any better than we have. And you guys, that Mr. George Hill missed the one and one.

The game is tied. and J.R. gets the rebound. I wasn't on the team. You had to left the team then? I got traded. I ain't leave. I got traded. Yeah, I was in Sacramento.

I had Plano Fasciitis, couldn't play. I had to wait a year. So I was basically, yeah, that was a burnt year for me, basically. In middle of the year, my foot, I had Plano Fashita, I just couldn't play. They traded me while I was hurt. But, yeah, I was sick when J.R. did that shit. You called him? Uh-uh.

You don't call nobody after some shit like that. I ain't trying to make it about that but I was like I just felt like he was trying to do the right thing and usually his rap in the league was that he do reckless shit and in that moment he was trying not to be reckless and I was so mad because I'm like you are the 911 the broken play yeah it came to you

because the basketball gods was like he's gonna know what to do with it and for that moment he thought he like don't be that guy because he wanted to win that bad Don't be that guy that messes this up in the moment. He hesitated and thought. And I'm like, you never do that. I've never seen you do that. I've actually never seen you do that.

It was weird seeing a confused face on JR. I'm like, he usually, either you make a left or you make a right. Right. But you're not indecisive. JR, look, you dare in the eye and make the decision. I'm like, I didn't understand that. And I was like, I just wish you could have that moment. That one moment, bad.

I wouldn't understand. I tell you what you were around for. Whatever that. The insanity. Oh yeah, I was talking about. What was that like? Too much for two weeks. Come on.

What you mean? Too much for two weeks. Linsed was crazy. Yeah, had media hanging all in our locker room, man. We get an interview butt-ass naked, dog. I'm talking about this shit was crazy. Like, I ain't even got time to all the way get right before they're in there. Asian media stepping on your foot while you're in the flip-flops.

You're like, Jim, come on, man. You're stepping on my towel. He's like, oh, sorry, sorry, but they're trying to get the Jay Lynn. Come on, dog. I get the best of with Mello and shit. Like, Mel, a nigga, don't even want to talk to your ass. Uh-oh. No, Mello used to be liking that shit.

He was happy to see him when Jay Lynn was taking all the media. Mello don't like talking to fucking media. And then, you know, look, I'm glad he and Kenyon made up Jeremy Lynn because Kenyon, like, you shouldn't be wearing drave. That's not your style. But I like when someone said something and they, like, you know what, I was wrong in this situation. I like when men be man.

Because sometimes, you know, we're proud for Shump. It wasn't that big a deal. You don't think it was that bigger deal? No. The shit was damn there crawling out his head. His hair ain't made for no locks. Jay Lynn, know that shit looked crazy. He just was trying some shit out.

I like Jay Lynn's response on Instagram. I can't remember what it was. It was very subtle. It was very not what you thought it was going to be. It made me smile. Right. But like I said, no matter what y'all see, I ain't saying this WWE or not.

nothing because it ain't. But we are all in this league fans of each other. Like, you can't get into it with a guy on the court, say you hate him, F him, F this, F that. But I'm talking about some really, really good human

beings off the floor. You know what I'm saying? Like shout out to everybody, parents and all powers that be. But it is some great men in the NBA. So it's like, I've seen a lot of shit that I'd be like, oh, these two, they finally in the same room this summer. and they'd be like, no, it's all good.

Like, we can keep it hoot. We can keep them mature. You're a defender, three and D guy. No, I'm not. They told me to do you. But that's how you cut you. That's how you got the big paycheck. Kobe, Kyrie, Steelf, or D. Rose?

Who harder to guard? Because you had the guard tomorrow. Kobe Steph. Kyrie and D. Rose. When I first got in the league, Cole. But if Cole not plan for a chance,

Championship is not as much to deal with, but it's hard to play against somebody you know could shoot it. He can shoot whatever he want. He ain't coming out, but you got to play fishing or you coming out. I was a rookie. I say cold when I first came, but out of them, Steph, because I feel like I could slide with all of them. I'm pretty much a fan of all of them, but Steph don't really have a package. It's not like James gonna go twin cross twin cross twin cross and then it's a variation of stepbacks Karee might start his dribble this way, but he might be doing his brakes might be under the leg or behind the back But it's like a package. I kind of know and get familiar with their movements Steph was one of the only guys that the moment I slid with him and start a little bit figuring out his handle

It was like you shall pass run off two three screens push me. Now he's wide open. And it was like he's not going to let me. My gift doesn't work with him. I have a gift. I can slide. I can do this with anybody.

Like it's hard. You only get two arms. You're not going to cross me. Do you say, ah, not the day, Steph. I'm not the day. Yeah, I'm talking shit. And it was like all in once.

He's like, I'm not doing this with you. Okay, sure. You could play D. You can play D. Schump. Good job. Now I'm going to go way back here. You're going to play defense at the three-point line back here? I'm going to shoot it back here.

And it was like, I was looking like, this man is really reckless. He really, because he's really, yeah, he'll come down. That you got to pick up the half-court. You literally, from the half-court on, he's a legitimate threat. I tell people, I'm,

Kai Rhee's handle is better. Yes, for sure. Kerry got the best handles I've ever seen the NBA. But Kyrie's using his handle. Yeah. Y'all have never seen Steph's handle. Like, he got a handle.

Oh, yeah, for sure. But it's like he The moment he feel like Oh, you can play defense pretty good He's going to take it away from you And that's what people don't get about it I'm like bro, he took They're like, why you wouldn't guard stuff

Because it don't matter for me to guard stuff He's not going to dribble against me He crossed He got by Della, you should have been guarding him He's not going to do that to me That's why he's the MVP He's not going to do it He said, you know what?

You are pretty good at that But you ain't you ain't going to get through three screens Not if Draymond the last one Right Or the second The first one Fuck it He just

I said you dirty Drey But you did You're the reason My shoulder got separated That first year That's all I'm saying That's all I'm saying That's all I'm sure

When you told Gibran That Jordan It better to him You said when I told him Yeah What about it You told LeBron

That Jordan is better than him What do he say How did he laugh He knew He knew I was gonna say it though Like he know that He know that Even though

he is the great the great one he know one I'm a Chicago kid you know what I'm saying two I am how LeBron at the end of the game

can pass to somebody if it was my team I wouldn't do that I would You take you that shot because I I'm going to take the DNA of Mike that's what I grew up watching And that's the way I like the game played.

So it's like to see Braun defer sometimes and do certain stuff, that's why I put him over. Plus, it's like, Mike never lost it in the championship. So I was like, that's why. But it's like, as far as breaking records and accolades and all the rest of this shit, it's like, no, I've been giving Bron his prop. It's just how you're going to do that to me? How are you going to tell my childhood itself I'm wrong? Right. Like, nigga, Mike saved my life a couple times as far as I'm concerned.

The world was ending, and then Michael Jordan put on it. on a cape and we beat the jazz. What the fuck is what? My house was burning down. Mike went out there and beat the Lakers in 91. Like, what are you talking about? There was all type of bad stuff happening. I will get you out on this.

Give me your 10-year plans. What's your goal? We come back and have a conversation and it's 2026. So in 2035, 2036, I come back and I have another conversation with a mind jumper. What's he going to tell me?

Where is his life? Married, three more kids. I don't know. I'm gonna have a bunch of kids. But? More than two? I'm just saying if it takes too long to get my boy, I'm gonna have to go through something.

You know what I'm saying? Whatever I got to do to get that boy is gonna happen. I'm gonna say that. But I don't know, man, by the end, I should be, you know, hopefully I can get my own segment on ESPN calling this stuff, growth jump street a little bit bigger. But I should really just be like taking flights to go see my daughters. Like, Junie should be hooping somewhere by then.

You know what I mean? By then it should be like- How is she not eight? Ten. Ten. So I'd be like, hey, she might be headed to the WNBA. She might be a one and done. It's been to have to be the shanty, oh, we gotta hurry this up.

Got a flight, you know what I mean? My daughter played tonight. They play LSU. Like I gotta. Where you go to, Yukon, South Carolina. Shit, I don't know. I went to tech out the blue for real. I was hoping DePaul came, got me.

They ain't even recruited for real. Paul used to have some hoopas. They just had them raw-ass jerseys, and they was in the city. They had Markle-Gouye, Terry Cummins. I think, Dick, Bruck, and Rod go to? They was going to have me in that motherfucker. That shit would have been hard. It's cool, though.

It's cool. I ain't tripping off of me. It's cool. But, yeah, in 10 years, I should just be, you know, Supergirl Dad. it out like like I should just have a schedule based upon my kids right I ain't in 10 years I ain't gonna be on shit for anything you want to promote you got anything oh yeah man make sure y'all tune in the Shump Street man uh me and my brother been doing a podcast all year uh one of the

things that uh you know my father really like that we got paid to finally talk hoops right it just mean a lot to me if y'all ever need hoop updates make sure to tune in the Shump Street Pod We just weekly talking hoops, man, talking rumors. We talk a little rumors here and there, but we keep it pretty hoops. You know what I'm saying? Like me and my brother are not the type to speculate and do stuff for too long. Quick takes on everything. But we really do like deep diving into the game of basketball.

Like we love it. Number one girl's dad, here he is. Yeah, there it is, man. I appreciate you, don't. Just you, bro. Thank you, man, so much for your time. Ready on my life. They're grinding all my life.

Sacrifice. Hustle paid the price. Want to slice. Got the roll of dice. That's why all my life. I've been grinding on my life. Yeah. All my life.

Then grinding all my life. Hustle paid the price. Want a slice. Got the roll a dice. That's why. All my life. Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than no grip.

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