Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Jess Hilarious Part 1
Episode Date: March 26, 2025Jess Hilarious On Breakfast Club Nicki Minaj, 50 Cent, Katt Williams, Cardi B, , Shannon's ApologyIn Part 1 of this episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe sits down with comedian, actress, and medi...a personality Jess Hilarious. Hailing from Baltimore, Jess has taken the comedy world by storm, selling out shows nationwide and becoming a staple in digital entertainment. She’s not just ‘Jess with the Mess’—she’s a fearless cohost of The Breakfast Club and a force in the industry. Jess opens up about her Baltimore roots and shares her journey from working at a funeral home to building a comedy empire online. She breaks down her first time performing, opening for Martin Lawrence, and her love for comedy legends like Bill Bellamy, Mike Epps, Lunelle, Mo'Nique, Ms.Pat, and Sinbab. She reacts to Katt Williams naming her as one of his favorite rising comedians. Jess Hilarious doesn’t hold back on industry drama, addressing her beefs with Nicki Minaj, Corey Holcomb, DJ Akademiks, Lil Meech, and Summer Walker. She shares her thoughts on joke stealing and gatekeeping in comedy. She weighs in on Wild ‘N Out, Viacom’s lawsuit against Nick Cannon and Zeus Network, and Nick Cannon fathering 12 children. She also addresses her past relationship with Kountry Wayne. Jess Hilarious opens up about family stealing from her, her opinions on BBLs and plastic surgery, and why she claps back at critics. Plus, she shares her experience working with Vivica A. Fox on The First Lady of BMF. She gives her take on some of the biggest headlines—Drake vs. Kendrick, Drake's Universal lawsuit, and Lil Rel’s weight loss. She speaks on The Wire vs Power, her friendship with 50 Cent, and 50 Cent's beef with Big Meech. She also gives her top 4 comedians: Bernie Mac, Katt Williams, Kevin Hart, and herself.#volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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When you got the job, Ocho and I on Nightcap was talking about it.
And I said some comments and it went viral.
I said that, you know, oh Joe she she nice she nice
So if I offended you I want to take the time out to say I apologize
I didn't that was not my intent I didn't and I don't ever want someone to feel uncomfortable with my comments
No, so that's why I wanted to take the time to say yeah, I apologize for what I say. Oh, no, it's okay
That means you got some good eyes on you. That's just all that means, you know. Ain't nothing with it. Sacrifice, plus I'll pay the price, want a slice Got the ball and dice, that's why, all my life
I've been grinding all my life on the drink today, she's made a name for herself on the comedy circuit. Spreading laughter, both online and off, she quickly became one of the biggest rising stars
in the industry, performing to sold-out shows nationwide.
A true force to be reckoned with in the world of entertainment.
An undeniable staple in the digital age, a prominent influential and outspoken social
media star.
A popular personality, an actress, an entertainer, content creator, a savvy businesswoman, and
a loving mother,
and a fearless co-host of the insanely popular,
award-winning syndicated morning talk show,
The Breakfast Club.
She's just with the mess, but her news is real.
Here she is, ladies and gentlemen, the one and only,
very funny, Jess Hilarious.
Thank you.
You better run it down, I like that.
You like that?
I like that.
I tell people when they come on the show
I don't give people what they deserve. I give them what they earn and everything that was written on this card. You've earned so congratulations
Thank you. So I don't know if you drink it now you drink I drank I did one day. What is this?
What we got here? This is my cognac. It's an award-winning cognac
We won the SIP award in 2022, which means a blind taste test
We line up cups and all the other cognacs
and people say, you know, we like, hey,
so we beat all the pop, we don't have the name of it,
but you know the cognac and we beat them in a taste test.
So I want to, I want to toast you.
I think it's been about a year since you've been
the co-host of the, right?
Yes, it has been a year.
And welcome your second child.
Yes.
So for a loving mother and everything that you've
accomplished and will continue to accomplish.
Thank you. Now, you know, I'm gonna tell you the truth. If this good I'm gonna let you
know because I don't care how many awards it won. Go ahead. I don't care. It's all about taste.
All right it's smooth. It's smooth because I was ready to be expanded. I wanted to change the
formula. All right but no it's good. Thank you good. Well, thank you very much. No problem. Thank you for stopping by Club
Shae Shae. Yep. Baltimore.
Mm-hmm. Born and raised.
Born and raised. Yes.
Y'all got an accent though, right? I mean, what's critical?
Yeah, we do. I mean, you know, I'm from
rural South Georgia. People bag on me.
Yeah. I've had a glow on.
And you know, glow from Memphis, bruh.
Yes. But let me ask you this, Jess.
How important is it for you to embrace how you talk talk the way you dress the way you sound how important is that for you to embrace?
Who you are to remain authentic to who you are?
I mean it keeps me relatable and you know, that's how I got to where I am being unapologetically
Me, you know, yes, we do have a strong accent the you to do to to
We see hot dog instead of hot dog.
What you doing?
All that, yeah, you know, people love,
as much fun as people make about the accent,
they love it everywhere I go.
They like to hear me say things and everything like that.
But the Baltimore will never die of me.
You know, I've lived in LA, I've lived in Atlanta,
I've lived New Jersey, New York,
but you know, Baltimore will never die.
You know, I gotta stay grounded.
When I first got into the media space, I got on television.
I went to all these people to try to change my dialect
because I talk with a heavy colloquial dialect
going from rural South Georgia.
But once I realized that that's not who I am, I needed to embrace.
And then once I really like heard Charles Barkley, I'm like, man,
Charles accent is worse than mine.
He from he from Leeds, Alabama. And once I embraced who I was people embraced who I was
Yeah, you think that's that's that's of the utmost because if you lose who you are, that's your identity
Just talking to do and the dog. That's who you are
And if you lose sight of that you kind of lose who's that lose sight of who you actually are?
Yeah, no, I when I go to to Baltimore I get a little bit more Baltimore side of Baltimore but I it
will never completely die within my dialect no one who has the thicker
accents Memphis or Baltimore Memphis
money bag yo oh my god Nper. I think NLE chopper
He he don't sound as Memphis as the rest of that. Yeah, he don't he don't so that's the one that come
He he's one of the ones that don't really get to Memphis. Yeah, but glow. Oh my god
Sometimes I'm like what she say, but that's my baby. I love her. She's quick to say but you country
I like low really. Uh-huh real
And she quickly said, but you country. I'm like, whoa, really?
Really?
I'm country?
You?
Let me ask all these famous people from Baltimore,
Jada Pickett, Krishan Rock, Monique, Carmelo, Mario,
Cisco, Giovanni Davis, Phelps, Bayreuth,
Thurgood Marshall, Billie Holiday, Montell Williams.
What are you thinking?
What is it about Baltimore?
And that so many of these people were able to leave
Baltimore and become what we know
them as today.
We're telling it, you know, we're like diamond in a rough city.
You know what I mean?
We, it's a lot of, we're overlooked a lot because we're known as, you know, you're not
DC.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, where, and then people only know us for The Wire, you know, which is still
one of my favorite TV shows of all time
I'm telling you not power not touching wire the wire we will who else would be in that
Now you know if it's gonna come for us now wow
Me and you cuz he gonna get mad because
He gonna get mad at me cuz I allowed you to say it on this platform
He's gonna come for you because you go say the fit power was not touching the wire
Oh, well, I said it before and I said again 50
He can try to redo the wire and cast me if you want to but other than that the wire is his favorite damn show
Oh, so yeah. Yeah
Monique gave you some love. How did that make you feel when Monique because Monique is Monique before you answer that is Monique
Misunderstood what what do people get wrong because I'm thinking that you have kind of a better relationship with her than most When monique because monique is is monique before you answer that is monique misunderstood
What what what do people get wrong because i'm thinking that you have kind of a better relationship with her than most
What do people get wrong about moe man?
Listen, that is a hard-working woman. That's somebody that paved the way
for
all of baltimore not even just on a comedy sense like
she
She's
unapologetically
Her yeah, right. And yeah, and when she's done wrong, you're you gonna hear and you gonna hear about it
She let none slide until you make it right with her. Yes. That's the thing because when you make it right she good
Yep, she's a loving person. You know what I mean? Like and she uplift me every chance she get listen.
I remember I opened up for her one time. Right.
And when I opened up for her, I wasn't I wasn't going through anything
or anything like that.
And that woman hugged me right before she went on stage because I opened up for her.
She hugged me and I just cried.
Like it was like it's one of them hugs that I got you.
I'm here for you. You're doing great.
Keep doing what you're doing. F the naysayers and you know what I mean? So yeah, she is
misunderstood, but she's also been done wrong too. And she's also understood. But I think a lot of
a lot of what she's been through has been neglected by those who caused that harm to her.
And she just wants to make it right.
Like she wanted them to make it right.
She shouldn't have had to go through, go to this platform and go to this extreme
and go to that extreme to hear, to be heard about things that, that, you know,
she's felt that she's been slighted a lot.
Why is it just that when you think when people do you wrong the first thing they say move on get over it
You notice that yeah. Yeah, why do you think that is?
Why can't people just embrace like bro if I say you this is what you've done. Okay, just acknowledge
Don't tell me I need to get over it. Yeah, you need to apologize. Yeah, why is it so hard for people to apologize?
Because it's not done to them. You know what I mean? It's not done to you. You don't really
feel it unless you're done wrong. You know what I'm saying? And I've been done wrong as well.
Sometimes I let it roll off my back. Sometimes, nah, you won't pay for that. Depending on what
you did. Depending on if I want to move on from it
or not. Because everything don't deserve, you know, your time and energy to go back
and forth with it, you know? But some things like, no, you're going to feel what you did
to me.
Right.
You know?
Grew up in Baltimore, two-parent household. How was that?
Amazing.
Really?
Amazing. My parents, they were married up until a few years ago. But me and my brother, Kevin, we got to grow
up in a loving household. Our dad worked, our mom worked as well. Both of them worked and they gave
us what they could. We grew up in West Baltimore City, you know, Emerson Avenue, West Baltimore,
and they were able to give us what they didn't have. You know what I mean? So, yeah.
Is it, was it the situation, were they strict? Were they disciplinarians? And they were able to give us what they didn't have. You know what I mean? So yeah.
Is it whether the situation where they strict, were they disciplinarians?
One was strict.
One was a disciplinarian and one was lenient.
My mom, she's deacon of the church.
I'm telling you, we were raised in church.
We go to church Tuesday, Wednesday, Saturday, Sunday, you know, and then my dad on the other
hand.
Nah, that was that he was the DJ
He's the one that taught me all the music
I know I have such a wide variety of music that I listen to you know
And then he's where I get my funny from like my dad is like the comic of the family
But yeah, they're two different to do but but it's balanced right balance. That's boy you talk about
Here and here. Mm-hmm. The two D's ones are deacon the others are DJ
Yeah, yeah, well my dad was a marine he went to the Marines and he and my mom met in high school, okay and um
He married her right out of high school
You know right before he went to the Marines and and they just been together
They you know, and I think they got married so young they didn't really get to live
They you know, and I think they got married so young they didn't really get to live
The single life and to date and see what's out there. My mom has always been like just a one
Man woman and just a lover and my dad he didn't get to live out that bachelor life And so that's what kind of like the tear the marriage, you know later later later
Yeah
Looking back on that, how important do you think that was
to have two parents and to have a loving environment
to let you know if and when you decided to get married,
we'll get into that a little later,
and you decided to have kids, what was important?
Man, just the structure of my household, you know,
no household is perfect, no two parents are perfect.
Yeah, I had the perfect balance.
But still, there were things that, you know, that every household has to endure, you know.
But as both of my parents relate to me today, I am happy that they instilled in me, like,
how to raise my children.
Okay.
You know what I mean?
They never let us see certain things growing up like when dad was broken, he, you know,
we never knew that until I got older.
And he sat us down and talked to us.
We all had the latest tennis shoes and y'all was, you know, and they made us earn everything.
But when y'all were walking around looking good and everything, nah, my bank account
was low.
You know, these are conversations that my parents waited until my brother and I were
grown to have. And then my mom opened up to me about her being unhappy. The last what,
10, no, eight years of the marriage, you know what I mean? Infidelity played a part in it. And then
how my dad, he didn't want to leave because that was the love of his life. He just still
didn't get to fulfill that dating. dating and they got when you get married young
It's so many good man out of high school like 18 nice. Yes. Yes stay together until you feel your 50s and 60s
Yes, you want to see well it BBLs. Oh, okay
Okay, cool. This is nice. All right bitches can buy the edges. That's okay
You know, it's a lot of new things
Did did your parents did you see your parents are did they argue in front of you? No never I've never seen my parents argue
Ever with each other. No, I did not so in other words and I heard I read this quote
They say what you crave of a child you overcompensate as a parent. Hmm
Now My son have seen me and his father go at it. My son
has seen his father up. I ain't gonna lie. I done got into it physical with the dad.
Man me and Rome that's my son's father. My son's name is Ashen. That's your oldest dad.
Yeah my oldest child Ashen. He's 12 now. His dad his name is Rome and me and Rome
have been through it. We have been through it, but we are really, really
good friends and family today. But yeah, I ain't take that rule from my parents.
You left that part out.
Uh-huh. Very much. I did. I left it out.
You went to Baltimore and you went to a predominantly white high school.
I did.
How was that?
It was scary at first, yo. I ain't even gonna lie. My mother had pulled me away from Baltimore City public schools and was like,
no, I want better for my child.
And, you know, my dad was on board. My dad was like, ah!
He was kind of going back and forth with it.
Like, I don't want to just pull her from what she knows.
She got her friends here. She's into sports here.
She's doing things. She has her life here.
I don't know if we should, but at the end of the day, they did.
They were making a great decision, and I'm glad that my mom did that. I'm glad that my dad went
on ahead with it, because a lot of things I learned. I'm well-rounded because of that.
It was scary. At first, I was acting like they was being racist, and they wasn't. I
was like, somebody just called me. And my mom was like, no, they didn't. I was like,
all right, you're right. But I just don't to school Oh, my they they don't know how to dance
Everybody want me to teach them how to dance and then I became one of the most popular kids in the high school
I was at that time because it was York, Pennsylvania. Yes at that time
It was only I think I was like one out of 12 black students in the school. The school had about I don't know I would say
school. The school had about, I don't know, I would say 10,000 kids. Yeah, it was like the size of a university, like a college. Yeah, and it was a middle high school, so Dallas Town Area High School.
It was in Pennsylvania, and it was scary at first, but I'm glad that I stayed. It's funny that you
said that because my daughter's mom had the opposite. She was at a private school
that was predominantly white and she pulled her out because she said that's not reality.
She said you're not going to be in a predominant area at any point in time in your life.
So you need to be more rounded and be around people that look like you and have different
ethnicities and so forth and so on. So she did the opposite.
And I totally understand that but I did see I did see on IG with this black this young black female said that
a black should not go to a predominantly white because you can lose sight of
yourself hmm something I've never done I've never done that I'm telling you I
like I said you know a lot I was I was afraid at first because yeah I came from
Baltimore City Public Schools everybody I saw look like me you know, I was I was afraid at first because yeah, I came from Baltimore City public
schools, everybody I saw look like me, you know, I little ponytail on the side, you know
what I'm saying? Nobody combing the back of the head. So the buck shots is bugging, you
know what I mean? But then I go up there, everybody got long straight hair, blue eyes,
and, and I'm just like, okay, this is what it is, you know, but it was like, the opposite
of what you know, you just brought up like Like I had already seen and been around black people
for so long and people who look like me in Baltimore.
And it was good for them to pick me up
and drop me in a place that was foreign to me.
Because then I learned other cultures.
You know what I'm saying?
And then I also learned what being the minority felt like.
I learned what controlled racism was. I. You know, I learned, you know, what controlled
racism was. I learned with somebody trying to be smart. They can't directly try to be
slick with it. Yeah, because they know they get their ass knocked out. But so it seems
so I okay. Yeah, this is what y'all doing. All right, I got you. So, you know, it was
great. Then I also made some of like, I met some of the greatest people that I've known
since then up there. So I thank my of the greatest people that I've known since then up there.
So I thank my parents for that.
Did you get in any fights?
They call you names?
Hell no, not to my face.
No, no.
Listen, I ain't gonna lie, going to high school, white kids, that's how I got into drugs and
all of that.
I smoked my first blunt up there.
I did my first shroom up there.
Damn!
Yeah, bonfires and all of that so so they so so how did it so how does happen?
You like okay, what y'all doing tonight? What y'all getting into tonight? You're like, okay
We gonna do this yada yada yada. You like okay cool
Mmm
They were they were inviting me for a long time like yo you want to come to this bonfire did like it's gonna be great
Like so cool and I'm like, okay. Yeah, I'm like, all right cool
I see what a bomb cuz you know, I'm from Baltimore.
Ain't no bonfires down here.
You say a fire is somebody's house.
You know what I mean?
It's just, it's not a bonfire.
So I go and I see them rolling up weed.
I'm like, all right.
I'd never smoked weed, tried weed in my life
until 10th grade in high school.
I'm like, let me see.
I'm like, what y'all putting in it?
Because I know white people lace they stuff.
You know what I mean?
So I'm like, let me see.
Because you know, I see little substances being poured on
top the blunt you know I mean pour it in it and I'm like give me a regular blunt
you know I hit it's cool I'm hungry I'm feeling a little funny you know and so I start telling jokes
and stuff but then I see people are tripping off of other things and I'm
like what's that oh yeah well that person you know Carlos just has some acid
over there you know I'm like yeah I don't Well that person, you know, Carlos had just had some acid over there, you know, I'm like, yeah I don't want that. No, then you know, you got
Pills over here. We got I'm telling you these kids had everything
Except for their parents there all the time. That's what set them aside from me
that's when I started connecting with my friends on a different level because
They would see how my parents were there. They
will come home every night. They would tell me they love me. They would tell me, you know,
because I would have my friends over too. And I remember one of my friends saying her
name is Talia. She's like, you and your mom tell you guys tell each other that you love
each other like all the time. I'm like, yeah, you and your mom don't she's like, no, not
really. Like, I don't really see my mom. And that was the case for a lot of them. A lot
of their parents, they own big corporations and work for big companies. They traveled all the time
They would just get them kids money, you know
And that's what that's how they would get into drugs and everybody had a car and everything
But they would get into drugs and they didn't really feel that love that they saw between my parents and I so
Connected with them. So you think they have a little so the next so would you have tried you?
Let's just say for the sake of argument you stayed in Baltimore Baltimore public school
Do you believe would have tried drugs and would have experimented like you did? I definitely would have tried weed
I mean my big brother smoked weed and he started smoking weed when he was maybe
12 years old and yeah, so I would have tried that but I probably wouldn't have got on the shrooms
I probably wouldn't have started with psychedelics at all. But yeah, I do psychedelics something different though. I do it for clarity
It's not just
What's that you said did or do I do I do that's present in currently yes right now today
Yeah, I mean what I mean you try to see the future what's going on
Look, you can it depends on how many shrooms you consume you, you try to see the future, what's going on? Look, you can.
It depends on how many shrimps you consume.
You might be looking into the future with somebody else's future, but you'll be up there.
When you do, you by yourself?
Not all the time.
I do shrimps with my sister and my fiance.
Okay.
Yes.
So, I mean, so what do they actually do?
They free your mind?
Yes, they do. Is it like an Adderall or something like?
See, I've done see I also got hooked on Adderall in high school as well because I couldn't focus and I needed that to focus
You know, it's a lot going on. Right. So it's very different from from that like so shrooms
It's not really a high you don't feel
Like a high it's like it's enlightenment, you know, you and you
feel open and you can go not out of it. You can tap. No, if you're scared if you're a
person who overthinks a lot. Yeah, I would not recommend them for you. You know what
I mean? Because you can go crazy. See? Yeah, if you're doing all of that, mm-mm, mm-mm, like Smokey and the Pigeon Cool.
You better not be, uh-uh, I ain't doing no shrooms to you, Shannon.
That uh-uh.
Mm-mm.
Yeah, but it's good.
I still do it, yes.
Right.
You had a friend overdosed though, right?
I did.
I did.
But that was not from shrooms.
That wasn't from shrooms?
No.
Did that scare you?
Absolutely, because he was so young.
Right. You know, he was very very young and um
It was one of a few kids that actually but this one was my friend. Yeah, he had overdosed
I forget what the drug was. It was it wasn't shrooms though. It was it was something
I think it was like bath salts or something like that and oh, yeah
Yeah, it was messing them up man.. You had some crazy jobs coming up.
Uh-huh.
A more titty?
Well, but the harsh funeral director.
Yes.
Yes.
No.
So that's the thing.
That's what I thought I wanted to be.
You know what I mean?
Because I went to college and did a semester just just a semester. Um, I thought I
Want I thought I really?
wanted to get into
like
being a mortician right, you know, cuz
Every job before that Shannon I swear everybody was getting me fired everybody, you know
And so I'm like, I work with dead people can't nobody wake up and be like, oh she did, you know, cuz they did
Yes, you were stealing I was
But I ain't stealing from the people that was snitching
You gotta mind your business if listen if I'm working at a company, right?
And I'm stealing the money and you see me and it ain't your company come and try to get money with me
Don't don't go. Oh, she
She's a stealing boss so you want
to be the favorite you know what I mean and you that ain't gonna get you no
raise that ain't gonna get no bonus for you you could have been getting money
with me on the side so the other word would you steal you go steal money from
the dead people to get coming over money in their purse in their pocket you go
no but that was a very lucrative business to be in people ain't ever gonna stop
down no they're not so I was going out plan to stop stealing and making money the right way with the dead people.
So, so you wanted to go to study mortuary science? Yes, which I did for a semester.
And I got scared because the clinicals, yo, they listen, and I'm not gonna say I wasn't paying
attention in class, you know, but
embalmment fluid works very funny if you put too much into it, you know, limbs can lift up, gas can leave the body.
After well, yes, they sit up and that happened and that was the last time people saw me. That was it. That's that's it. I
said, that's what y'all was there. You know, so I was scared. No, I said I can't do it. That's it. I said, that's what y'all was there. And you know, so I was scared and I said, I can't do it.
Yeah, you know, I had a buddy of mine,
his father owned a funeral service.
And he's like, man, damn people can't hurt you.
I said, yeah, but they can make you hurt yourself.
Absolutely, they sure can.
Somebody sit up in there and they'll beat you
when you do straightening their hair and stuff.
You damn running to the wall, I'm done. done. I'm done. So that's it.
Social media. What made you start? What made you get on social media?
Well, I used to watch Maury a lot, right?
Maury Povitz?
Yes, I used to watch Maury Povitz, right? Even when I wasn't supposed to be watching that, man,
I was watching, right? And that was the very first skit that I did.
I liked to do parodies back then, right?
And so I remade that, who's the father?
I was acting like I was the guy and how they would have the confessionals.
I'm not the father.
And they would have these like different angles, like it would be an angle down looking up
at the guy.
And then it was just funny.
So I remade that and
that skit took off. And then I'm like, damn, this person reposted it, then this person
reposted it, then this person. I said, well, I can do this. So I just kept doing videos.
And this was back when videos were only 15 seconds on Instagram. So I'm like, all right,
I got to make people laugh in 15 seconds. Let me do it. And so I just made a series
of skits that went viral and that's it just took off from there. Were you afraid to upload them?
Some of them only because I was afraid that people would steal the idea not
whether or not people would think it's funny I've always been funny my whole
life you know but. Were you a class clown? Always even up there with the white people
that's how I got put out half the time I was definitely I'll put people yo white y'all still put people out of class. I thought that was only black
No, you're trying to make everybody laugh so yeah, but
That's that's how that happened. I want that touch on this
Slipped over my mind when you stealing you go to jail for stealing that they put you in jail. I did go to jail
Once not forever stealing from any of my jobs. I was at this modeling agency and I had stole from this
one woman. Damn Jess! Yeah I know. I know. Well now you can. I'm reformed. I'm reformed
now you know. So now people steal from me. I don so but look I was I did I stole from the director
And then I so what you stole assistant money what well, yeah, but
This the thing that's the thing. All right
the the assistant that I stole from
She had an error to take me to court too, but she had nothing on our card
I'm like, I didn't even get nothing off. I couldn't even order a piece off your card.
Lady, why are you up here standing in front of the judge?
And she also stole from me.
Well, I didn't get nothing.
So I shouldn't be tried for this.
But the other lady here, she has some, she has some big bucks.
And so, yeah.
You go, you, I'm something I'm looking at you, Jess.
I think you would have them people job to get them.
No, I, it was a model agency and they was lying to people taking all their goddamn money telling us that we can be Tyra Banks
and Naomi Campbell Campbell right and
We we couldn't be why would you tell me that I?
Ain't even tall enough. You know what I mean, and I really was going with this
It was people shorter than me and you know, it was people on the bigger side
They they knew damn well what was my you know?
shorter than me and you know people on the bigger side they knew damn well what you can but not back then Ashley Stewart Elaine Bryant yeah that's what yeah but
you ain't come on now some of those people in there and they was just taking
people's money so you was robbing hood yes and I went back to collect for
everybody but when it came time for me to give back everybody else everybody
left so I was like I might as well keep all up for myself.
So that's how that happened.
Let me ask you a question.
What was the first video that went viral and you were hooked?
My first Jess with the Mess.
That was my first Jess with the Mess.
I used to do Jess with the Mess on reality TV.
This is when Love and Hip-Hop first came out.
Love and Hip-Hop Atlanta. No, it was New York with Chrissy and Jim Jones and then
I was and then Amina, Peter Guns and Tara and all of them and I started
doing Just With The Mess around reality TV and then I started doing it with like
just industry things, other things.
Is it true Nikki unfollowed you
because of one of your videos?
I don't know why she unfollowed me,
but I know she had reposted me a few times
listening to some of her music that she dropped
and then unfollowed me.
I feel like a few people unfollowed me though.
But I don't know the reason why.
I don't be like, why you doing that?
But you know you can't be going back and forth with them barbers on social media though, J.
I don't go back and forth with them. They go back and forth with themselves.
Oh, so you don't respond on social media? You don't go back?
Not anymore. You haven't said you can't find a comment that I haven't commented on
and since, what did I say? I like last, I think back in 2023,
I said I'm not gonna comment anymore. They don't deserve for me to keep going back and forth. How difficult is that?
Because your nature is to come back. Yeah. Yeah, it is very difficult
That's why I don't read comments as often as I used to because listen just
Jessie from around the way Baltimore City she on that on that app, she'll get in your ass.
And I've learned a lot.
Things that you will say to an MF on the streets in Baltimore, sis, you can't do it online.
Don't do it online.
It's not worth it.
And at the end of the day, these people don't know you and they will never say this to your
face.
So don't go.
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Why is it people on social media, they'll say something slick. You get slicker back with them, and then they cry big.
Oh my God.
I can't believe you said that.
You talk to a woman like that.
Yeah, she talked to me first like that.
Period.
And that's just what it is.
You know what I mean?
And that's and that's another thing growing up in Baltimore.
That's what it is.
You, there's no rules to this.
You know, you come at me, I come at you.
You can't tell me how, no, you can't say that though.
It's like, no, no, no.
And I think we live in a world now where sensitive
and offended is the new trend, you know?
So, yeah.
There are a lot of social media stars.
You look at Desi Banks, Drewski, Young Fly, Pretty V, B
Simone, this other guy
I'm sure you're gonna talk about him cuz he has something to say about you. It wasn't bad though. You know what I'm talking about, don't you?
Excluded that guy. Did you connect with you? Did you see what they were doing? Like, well damn they're doing this
I can do this. So how I mean, how did you even get started?
see what they were doing like, well damn, they're doing this, I can do this. So I mean, how did you even get started doing the uploading of the videos?
Well, the first person that I ever saw was DC Young Fly.
Okay.
That is my brother.
Yeah.
I know he called me the same thing. I'm his brother too. That's what he said. But that's
the only guy that played with me like that, by the way. Yeah.
Really?
Yeah. I don't let nobody else call me their brother. I don't
be playing around like that. But yeah, I started off seeing him and you know, King Bach and
like those people and I'm like, no, I actually didn't see any females. I only saw him and
I was like, yo, that guy is funny. Even though I couldn't understand everything he was saying,
because that Georgia is different from your Georgia.
You know?
I swear when I first met DC, I would just listen and nod
and laugh like I knew what he was saying
and couldn't understand.
And then I would ask Carlos Miller, like,
do you know what he said?
And he'd be like, yeah, I know what he said.
Well, them both are country, but I'm not country.
So I don't know.
But yeah, that's what made me feel like,
hey, I can do this too.
Because I could relate to DC.
He was himself, always himself.
So did any of the other guys, once you met those people,
did y'all share information?
Did y'all share tips?
Did y'all like, hey, let's get this money together?
I actually took B. Simone and Pretty V and watched
Jazzy on their first tour.
I did my first tour and I took them with me.
So yeah, that's how they got their start in standup.
Well, Pretty V does a host of things.
Pretty V don't like doing no damn standup.
She is successful and entertaining though, for sure.
So yeah, she's more like a host, but yeah.
How did you meet Country Wayne?
How did I meet Country Wayne?
I know that it's not on your card.
Let me see that damn card over there. How the hell did I meet country Wayne? I know that it's not on your car. Let me see that name
How the hell did I meet him he'll nice do though? Yeah, that's yeah, you know, yeah
But oh, I only remember how I met the fella. I don't damn I don't sorry to that man
Okay, now, okay Yeah, I'm sorry. I don't know that man. You're a sissy. Okay, Kiki. Okay, Kiki. Mm-hmm. I'm sorry, I don't know that man.
You know, I'm sorry, I just don't know.
I don't remember how I met him.
How old were you when you got on stage for the first time?
Hmm.
I don't remember how old I was, but it was 2013.
2013.
When I got on the stage for the first time the first big stage
I got on was
2014 I opened up for Martin and I had only been on stage
Two or three times. Did you always want to do stand up? No the hell I did not
I didn't even know what all of that consists that consisted of like I I grew up watching
Yes
like Consist that consisted of like I I grew up watching yes Like comic-view stand-up link with my dad when I wasn't posed to and just watching Bruce Bruce
And you know seeing a Dion Cole and seeing you know, you know, but I had never imagined
That's what I would be doing right? Yeah, I just always was funny
Humorous comical, but I never thought that I would be a so did you decide to do it or someone touch?
They age. Yes, you should you should try this this So how did you decide to go up on stage?
Listen, so my big brother Desi. He's not my biological brother, but he is somebody who is a mentor for me
He's also from Baltimore City Desi Alexander. He's been a feature on my tour since I first started
This is the guy that people know when I'm coming he come to
feature on my tour since I first started. This is the guy that people know when I'm coming, he coming too.
Him and another guy from Baltimore, his name is Cool Ant, he's a promoter and he also works for Nike now as well.
They were doing open mics and I would go all the time and
the local comedy scene in Baltimore was, it was just, it was funny and I just always wanted to go and be a part of it but
not to get up on stage and one day they just pushed me up on stage because I was already doing the
skits and stuff so people already knew who I was um locally and then they was like you might as
well try it my brother's like try it and I'm like ah I don't know so then he calls my name I go up
there I didn't know what the light was when they give you a light that means all right your time
is about to be up time is dwindling down I thought they was taking pictures I was up there. I didn't know what the light was when they give you a light that means all right your time is about to Be up time is dwindling down. I thought they was taking pictures. I was
Bit up there for 10 minutes
I mean five minutes it went from 5 to 10 to 15 and then the DJ dropped the music and I'm like damn
And they like no cuz you got to get off. I'm like, oh, I didn't know I didn't know the rules
Right y'all push me up here and they are trying to push me off, you know
So and and I started developing a like for it.
Not really a love yet until Martin Lawrence
had his brother call me and ask me to open up for him.
And that's when I was like,
13,000 people down at the Wells Fargo Arena.
That's what it was called.
State Farm or Wells Fargo Arena in Baltimore City.
But that's when I realized standing on that stage,
making my city laugh like that, I'm like,
all right, yeah, this is what I'm supposed to be doing.
Because prior to that, you didn't have a bug.
It wasn't like when you first got up there,
you're like, OK, I like this.
I'm hooked.
It wasn't until Martin actually called you,
and you said, this is what I'm going to do.
Yep.
And that's when I started working on my craft.
I started actually going to open my other open mics outside of Baltimore City
And I'm writing jokes and stuff like that. So you you quit you were you working at the time you quit your job
I'm stealing
I love miss
No, but I am NOT a thief now fail me Louise, I know right I know I know but I am not a thief now. Say I'm in Louise? I know right?
I know.
I know.
So you do this, you get the bug and so now you're writing stuff.
You're like, I want to be good at this.
I want to be the best I possibly can be at this and you start taking it serious.
And you from that point on from when Martin brother called you, that was the moment that
you said, what?
This is what I'm going to do.
That is the moment.
That is the moment. The moment when I was on stage, right?
Because I was scared as hell. He had called me about something else
He didn't even call me to ask me to do the show first. He called me cuz Martin was working on plays
he wanted to like get into like the play feel right and was like
Martin wants to do a play with you. Would you be interested? You know, once you thinking about- Kind of like Tyler Perry was doing?
Yeah, yeah.
And I was like, of course.
And then we hung up and then he called me back like,
well, what are you doing this weekend?
Because you know, Martin is on his What Now tour, right?
And he stops in Baltimore, you know, he's from Maryland.
I'm like, I know everything about Martin.
Martin is one of my favorite actors coming up.
Like, you know, and so he was like, yeah,
would you mind opening up
for him you got ten minutes to come and I was like sure I got an hour lying and
so soon as I hung up I called my brother like yo I get to open up for Martin I
only been on stage two or three times I need you to help me he helped me that
day of the show I went out there was me Melanie Camacho and he had one other
person I forget who it wasn't then he went on I went out there I forgot
everything me and my brother wrote down other person, I forget who it was, and then he went on. I went out there, I forgot everything,
me and my brother wrote down.
Oh, Lord.
But because I was home and it was Baltimore City
and I knew the lingo, I knew what they loved,
I knew, I know we love some damn crabs,
I know, you know, I'm born and raised there.
I can only speak to my city, who better?
So, killed it.
Killed it, did a solid good 10, 12 minutes,
and Martin was right there standing on
the side because he wanted to see how I did right and it was amazing that was
your big brain and that's when I was like I'm gonna do this right mm-hmm
give me your Mount Rushmore Baltimore comedians hmm yeah you know what don't
do Baltimore yeah I'm gonna take it broad mm-hmm you get four comedians
cuz a lot of time people be trying to put seven eight people on Mount Rushmore
so give me your Mount Rushmore comedians
pastor dead or alive it does not matter man woman it does not matter you can
have four women you could have four men you can do it both mix and match it does
not matter give me Jess hilarious if she said okay Jess who are you my rush more comedians hmm Bernie
Mac
Oh, that last one.
I'm sure I'm just gonna say Jess Hilarious. Because I wanted to, you know, it's hard.
It's hard.
You went with a lot of the modern comedians.
Yeah.
And then go back too much like Richard Pryne.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, because I'm gonna be completely honest with you. I didn't study them. I didn't really watch them. You know what I mean? I didn't go back too much like Richard Proud, like Eddie Murphy. No, because I'm going to be completely honest with you.
I didn't study them.
I didn't really watch them.
You know what I mean?
I didn't.
Touring with comedians.
What's that like going on the road with comedians?
Do y'all interact?
Or do you, hey, I'm in my dressing room.
When it's time for me to go out, I go out.
I go back.
Boom, I'm out.
Me, I don't really interact a lot with people.
Oh, you stand off with people.
No, no, no, I'm staying my spaces.
That's what I am.
Because, you know, it's a lot that goes into it.
You know what I mean?
And then, not that I'm not friendly,
you know what I mean, but I treat work like work.
You know what I mean? You ain't work like work. You know what I mean?
You ain't trying to get close to nobody, huh?
No, and it's not even purposely.
I'm not trying. I just don't.
You know, it's a lot of just that I know I don't.
I'm not you won't catch me hanging out.
Okay, you know the most hanging out that I've done is on Wild'n Out.
You know, I love my Wild'n Out family.
I love all those comics there and everything.
But yeah, that's it, though.
You know, I will say people like, you know,
what is his name?
Bill Bellamy.
He's a great person.
Mike Epps.
Mike Epps was the first person to call me
to drop gyms.
He was the first person that I actually
talked to that I could say was mentoring me
about ownership and just a lot of different things like where I think he made mistakes in his first
I mean in in the early getting started. Yeah, and then he
Would make things clear to me so I can not make those same mistakes and things like that
You mentioned being on the road Mike Epps Ricky Smiley Monique and Bruce Bruce
What's what's some of the crazy story because these is the old guard
I mean I used to see Bruce Bruce in Atlanta Monique's been in a while Mike Epps been at this thing
You know probably three decades Ricky smiley's been at the same thing
What are the when you're on the road do you do you try to pick their brain and try to get it get info or how?
To do this thing how to go about it am I doing it right? What should I do different?
Are you you know trying to get advice? No, you know
No, I'm not trying to get advice and um, I
Don't yeah. No, I don't try because this is the thing yo
I don't even like to watch other people stand up because I don't it's very easy to emulate somebody without doing it
I'm going to do it. You know what I mean? Like I remember this one day. I watched
Sebastian I forgot his last name. He's a comedian
I watched him all day and I had a show that night and I went on stage and I found myself
Speaking like this man and I'm like, ah, I can't do it, you know, but
So I don't watch stand up. I don't try to pick anybody's brain. I will say
Lunel and Leslie Jones.
Those two, they're really, really good women. I love those two women to death.
Like, anytime that they feel the need,
something is laid on their heart, they reach out to me.
And they, I don't even ask them for advice,
they just give it and give it, and I love those two.
Because they're very supportive of me.
I had Cat on, and he said, Jess Hilar hilarious is one of his favorite up-and-coming comedians. Yeah saw that I saw that listen
cat was
doing a lot of things up here
When they told me
It took me first of took me four days to watch
I was up here for ten hours. I was like damn. I hope Shannon didn't have nobody else after him.
But listen, I started watching it and then everybody called on my phone, yo you saying
what Cate Williams said?
I'm like, what'd he say?
Then they sent me, they said no, it was great.
I went and watched and I said, oh Cate good, let me breathe because I had only heard about
everybody else and he didn't have
Anything nice to say about so I was like, oh god, how the hell would I do?
You know, but I'm glad because he's actually one of my favorite comedians to like his earlier stuff. Oh my god
I love cat. I grew up on cat Williams the interview you mentioned an interview. What do you think? Hmm, I
Think you need to ask no questions.
You didn't have to have. You didn't. You didn't. Why they get mad at me though Jess? I don't know
why they got mad. They shouldn't have got mad at you. First of all, listen, Cat only do interviews
when he got something to say. Yes. Right. Yes. It ain't like you called him and said, look, come up
here. I got something. I've been trying to get him for a year. I get it Yeah, and you know, he doesn't he drives it where he takes the bus
And so he was gonna be on this side of town
Yeah, and you know a metal lady that written her job and she was going to be his executive assistant
Yeah, so I've been trying to line him up for a year. I talked to her one Friday the following Friday
He's sitting on the couch. And so now mind you, when he comes in, he's already on one.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't know why they got mad at you. I'm telling you one
thing though. It was good for you. It was good for him too. It was good for you. It
was great for me. Yeah, it was. It really put me on the map. Yeah. It put me on the
map and it made people take my platform very, very serious and serious and advertising sponsors took notice of that. Yeah. And a lot of good
and hopefully he it was mutually beneficial to him. Absolutely. But you know, he had a
lot to say about gatekeepers. Yeah. Yeah. Do you believe there's such thing? Um, yeah,
I do. I do believe there. I believe it kicks in if a certain person don't like you, maybe
you said something to offend the friend of someone or, you know, you or, you know, you
offend a community of people or whatever.
However it goes, yeah, there is always someone who makes that decision or maybe a group of
people that makes that decision whether or not to indulge in affairs with this person or, you know, business.
You know, yeah, I do believe in gatekeeping, though.
Where are you on joke stealing?
Because Kat had a lot to say about joke stealing.
He felt he said a joke.
Said stole the joke, but he used a different apparatus.
One guy used the caddy, the other guy used the spaceship.
Some people say, bro, if it's that serious,
write a new joke.
If it was that easy for him to steal the joke,
the joke wasn't that deep to begin with.
Where is Jess Hilarious on joke stealing?
Listen, I remember a time when I first started comedy, right?
Telling you, I never studied the art of it.
I didn't know.
And I sat at a show, and there was this comedian
from Baltimore, right? And she had was this comedian from Baltimore, right?
And she had a joke about squirting, right?
I didn't like the way she told it, right?
So I said, all right, I'm gonna take it, spin it around, throw a little Jess on that bitch, and I'm gonna retell it.
And I did that and there is a comedian, OG, by the name of Larry Lancaster,
who had pulled me to the side at the end of
that show and was like, hey, you can't do that.
Because this comedian did that.
That's very big in this culture.
You cannot do that.
And you know, the culture of comedy cannot still.
And I was like, damn, even if I remix it, it's not still and it's just the same idea.
But he said, no, because you
went online and said that you were going to steal the joke. And I did do that. So I was like, I just
didn't know the rules of it. But that was the first and the last time I'd ever done something
like that, you know, and, and, and I didn't realize why she was so mad. Like, damn, what just write
another joke or tell it better than me and I give it back to you
You know, but it was but I'm like nah, this is really an art. This is really rules to this thing
You know, you can't do that. And so yeah, I mean I guess people look at it like a song
Yeah, if you say if I sang the song and then you come behind it and say it will write a better song
No, bro. No my stuff man, no, you got to give it back.
It ain't yours.
So yeah, I do not steal jokes.
Yeah.
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Tell me the process of writing a set.
So let me ask you a question.
How long are your sets?
30 minutes?
I am on stage when I headline hour 15 minutes.
Hour 15 minutes.
So tell me the process.
So say you do week Thursday, Friday.
Maybe you got two shows Friday, two shows Saturday,
blah, blah, blah. OK. And you got two shows Friday two shows Saturday, blah blah blah
Okay, and you're gonna be on the road for let's say six weeks. Yeah
uh How?
Do you go about writing a set?
That's gonna be able to stand the test of time for that six weeks and you're probably gonna be on stage
25 to 30 times. Hmm
So see
I don't really write jokes out because I found that when I do that I sound very
rehearsed. So what I do is I have bullets. Okay. And I have a writer session every week with my
brother, the one who opens up for me, my teacher, Desi Alexander. And we just bounce off of each
other, you know, and I don't really like to write.
You know, I have a 30-minute set,
crafted for when I do 30 minutes,
then I have a 20-minute set when I do features on other shows,
like when I open up for Bill Bellamy and Bruce Bruce
and all those people, you know, things like that,
D.L. Hughley and Ricky Smiley and all that.
But I, yeah, I don't really write.
It's all up in here.
I just have bullets, and that's how that goes.
A lot of people, and they'll pull me to the side,
they'll say, Shannon, there's a lot, look.
It wasn't so much of what Kat said,
is that he pulled a curtain back and allowed people to see
something that we've been trying to keep secret. And so I think that's really...
Now look, he called out a lot of people, a lot of prominent, powerful people.
But it was more so that what he allowed people to see.
Because I don't think the general consensus is,
damn, is that kind of animosity and vitriol in the in the
comedic community yeah I didn't know that yeah he was letting me things let
me know things I didn't know either like I watching it I'm like dang I didn't
know that you know what I mean yes but those were different times and you know
it's better now I but you thought for you to know cuz you don't really get
down with anybody so you do your thing thing and you out. Nope, yep. I know some comics will get mad at
you for doing shows with people that they got beef with and so they won't put
you on a show. So what am I supposed to do? Unless you with me or somebody you can just do
shows on your own. Right. You know what I mean? like yeah that's that's you kind of gotta play the game and that's that's so weird to me you don't strike me as
somebody like to play games hell no not no game not ever you ever got into it
with comedian have I ever gotten to a with a comedian I got into it with a
comedian about what hmm you know go fish through them cards. I know you got
I don't know nothing just I mean I just I just you know, I thought you was gonna be you know
Like, you know, we just we thought I was gonna be like cat
Come up here with something to say and be like look this work. No, I'm just saying I'm just I'm just asking you
What was it about? Yeah, well
Corey Holcomb.
That is a comedian that I got into it with.
I did a photo shoot with my son.
And it went viral.
I was naked.
My son was not.
My son had on Jordans.
The only thing I had on was Jordans and socks.
And he was covering me.
He was covering my boobs, my private area.
And he had on clothes.
And I did the shoot.
I posted it. it goes viral.
The next morning, I wake up to
Corey Holcomb calling me a whore, a black whore,
and saying that my son would be gay.
And this is why a lot of our young black men are gay,
because of black whores like Jess Hilarious and things like that
And he was you know him and I do not know I still have not got the chance to see this man
You know that was the reason why I went to Wilden out to see this man
And you didn't and he wasn't there that day no I made the show, but I'm like. Thank you Nick, but where's
His own I ain't here
So why you cuz you know why I'm coming up here Nick?
Cuz that's why you reached out to him because I flamed him
I was roasting him back the back three days straight and that's why you reached out Nick. You knew I wanted to see him
He said no, but you got on the show
Thank you. You let it go now
No, I ain't let it go. No, I didn't let it go. I mean,
it wasn't even so much about him talking about me. You don't say that kind of thing about somebody
child. You know what I mean? You just don't say stuff like that. But then I realized he don't
have a relationship with his mother. He doesn't have a relationship with his mother, you know what I mean? He doesn't have a relationship with his kids.
He told one of his kids,
F them, he'll make another one.
You know, so it's, you know,
and the way he talks about his family,
you know, something like that.
He has other issues, obviously, you know,
very dirty person.
Right. Yeah.
Timber, what's the audition process like for Wild N Out?
They, well, how it was for me. I don't know how how it's changed, but I don't think it's gonna be no more Wild N Out
But really did that huh? Yeah, what happened? Just like so and they
Azuz network Viacom. Oh, they want it back, huh?
Yeah, well
apparently
They ain't take it Nick didn't take it. Well, well, yeah, that's what they saying
They saying that he took the whole idea and the whole concept of Wild'n Out and took it over to Zeus with LaMelle and them over there
so
That's what they saying. So ain't no Wild'n Out now. I don't think but either way the question that you asked me
Refresh my mind again
Now how do you audition? How do you audition for Wild N Out
and then how do you make the show?
Okay, back, wait, because I don't know how it's changed,
but back then, you go, they'll have it at a hotel,
like in one of the banquet halls or whatever,
and then you go in there and then Nick wants you
to joke on the spot, you know, go back and forth
with somebody or like a
rap battle because the thing is wild style. Everybody's favorite thing is wild style.
It wasn't my favorite thing because I ain't just thinking of Valentine. That girl can
rap for days and days. I'm talking about. But they'll have you do that. They'll give you a topic and
you just spit jokes on it. You know what I mean? And then you'll just go back and forth with somebody
like cracking on them, joking and roasting and stuff and then if they
like you enough he'll tell you okay yeah I got you you're on it or we'll call you
back something like that see he already knew what I was capable of that's why he
reached out anyway so I didn't have to go through a second right step you know
I just got it what's your favorite moment of the show but do you get upset
because summer hey man they'd be going in hard
so Jess
Hey, I'm a I might have a swagger on somebody. Uh-huh. Oh
Trust me people want people have guests have canceled guests have sent in stuff like look
I'm gonna come up there but y'all can't talk about this this this this and this and y'all talk about this and 85 South which is
This and this and y'all talk about this and 85 South which is
Carlos, DC and Chico they'd be like well, why are you coming up here? Because you already know we don't we don't go by that We don't play we man. Come on now and then Nick let let us do we want on the show
It's like what I'm joking Nick, you know, Nick is always the butt of the joke. So it's like what's up Chico Chico got him good
Oh
Them three stay on it oh my god I
don't even know how I would have been put them off my show I don't care yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah I love them though. What's your favorite what who's your favorite
Wild N Out guest? Hmm favorite Wild N Out guest or cast member? Guest, hmm.
I ain't gonna lie, I don't got no favorite Wild N Out guest. I ain't gonna hold you.
The best episode that I watched though, I ain't gonna lie,
was the one with T-Pain and the one with Chance the Rapper.
I wasn't there, I was off filming other things.
But yeah, I can't really say Wendy Williams I'm gonna lie
I got to meet Wendy Williams and she knew who I was and I roasted her she
talked about me on her show after that shortly after that she after she came
but Wendy Williams was very fun she was very fun she came she played the game
she wasn't scared of nobody she know how she she is. So bring it on. I love that.
How's Nick as a boss?
Nick is good. Godfair man. He prays before every show. He's really, really a good dude.
I will always and forever respect Nick for this. So I did two seasons of Wild'n Out, right? And then I got casted for the sitcom, Rell, on Fox, right?
And I was gonna be series lead.
And so that meant that I had to move to LA
and I couldn't shoot Wild'n Out.
And there was a season of that coming up.
And so I went and I talked to Nick.
I said, Nick, as this show, I wanna do season,
whatever it was, of Wild'n Out Out but I got casted you know to
do Roel and say yo go what you talking about this will always be your home whenever you want to come
back or even if you don't whatever you always got a place on this show. Wow. That made me cry dog
that was bad that was dope he was like yo I I see more for you I see this for you I saw this for you
go ahead and you just come back when you're done.
Like, why on earth I was gonna be here?
Till it ain't.
In private, you rag on Rick Nick about all them kids?
In private, in public.
I'd be like, damn, come on now, man.
Yeah, I just felt like, I don't know.
In my opinion, I felt like that marriage messed that man up and now he's overcompensating for something he couldn't compensate for
That's just what it is. You know, he may get angry at that
It wouldn't be the first time Nick got mad at me about that comment
But you know, I just I don't know and not to say that he's just making kids for the fun of it
but you know, you know
What it seems like but I know he loves all of his children
dearly you know but yeah I'm just like goddamn you're purposely doing this
you're purposely doing this so you blame him or the ladies that's allowed him to
know he's purposely doing this hmm well I would honestly say would have to be on
the woman right because
It's your body. He ain't the one having the kids and you know it men can't have kids, right? I'm gonna say it for the people in the back men can't have kids
So, you know, it's the women maybe the first make that decision. Maybe the first two they didn't know
Yeah, but three four five six seven eight
Come on now and then the one that's brewing right now probably if it is one
I don't know. I don't know but we never know cuz ever since they said Elon Musk got 13 now
Meek Mill and Nick and all of them they like oh no, we can't we we must but Elon Musk
Elon Musk is worth 430 billion. I keep trying to tell these
There's a different cuz one thing niggas gonna do is Nick and I keep telling you can't make with him. Yes. No, no
No, yeah, you can't do that
Yeah, and and meet for meek male to say yo, I can't let Elon Musk have more baby mothers than me
Sorry, you're looking at it wrong
Elon Musk made what?
wrong. Elon Musk made what a hundred and seventy seven billion dollars in the last thirty days? Yeah. What your mindset should be is I can't let this man, how did this man is rich? I need to get
on that. But you're talking your mind is so in the bottom. You're thinking about babies. What are you
talking about? This man thinking about dollars. Exactly. Come on now. Okay. You said Nick is suing Viacom. He's suing Viacom.
Viacom is suing him.
Yes, I said that was in the headlines.
Right.
Over the Bad vs. Wild show?
Bad vs. Wild.
And Zeus.
It ain't only Nick.
It's Zeus Network.
Right.
Yeah.
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What about Drake? This Drake suing Universal about what transpired with him and Kendrick over this. I mean this might be the greatest diss song ever.
Yeah, no it is.
I thought with No Vaseline, I thought I hit him up. I thought Ether, Sheetha with Remy Ma, which you would have.
I was like, hold on. But this five Grammys, I mean, and he headlined the Super Bowl and number one on the charts again and why wouldn't he perform that song?
What yeah, you got to yeah, you got to now your best joke and you don't go you're not gonna tell it
What you mean? I ain't gonna tell it on my special what please I'm getting that one
Yep, I don't care who who would make mad it is it is what it is now
Cuz there's like a double-sided thing with that now while
Rap is rap. Mm- rap, there are no rules.
Yeah, you hit below the belt,
Kendrick just went to hell with it.
You know, so.
That's how I am, Jess.
I know how you are.
If you go low, I ain't going low, I'm going to hell.
Yep, that's right.
I love you, Michelle Obama, but nah,
we gonna have to take it down there.
Yeah, and I get it.
But I will say, Drake does have a valid argument when it comes to
losing brands over such an accusation, like, you know, the pedophile thing and you saying that,
you know, I like little girls and you know what I mean? It's just, and that that surely could cost
you some business, you know some money
sponsors and endorsements and all that stuff, you know, um
going as far as
suing Universal
Yes, these are This is people and these are the people that they have you
Where you are right and that gives you the tricks of the trade and it cuz some of your songs
I don't know how the hell they made it to know the way. Yeah, like what's the the to see slide? Yeah, I
Don't and that went number one
So now you know
how whether you know they use those tricks of the trade for
Kendrick whether they did that or not
You once benefited from that correct, you know
So that's the same thing you had a problem with help you get to where you got
Yeah, now you're gonna turn around and sue. Yeah, so I think he's stepping into something
That he probably would regret later. Let me ask you a question
You think he's lost business because of the the pedo accusations? Yeah, yeah I do. I really really do and I honestly think
that's why he's been also just like quiet as well and then going to the all
these other countries to perform and things where where all of that stuff in
America ain't really like there to bother him as much in Australia. Right.
Ain't nobody gonna be you know. People because people like it's just words. I don't like people playing my name. Yeah
Like you said they maybe that accusation has caused them some advertisers sponsors
Yes, that business opportunities because there are people playing with my name and I was just like, you know what and
I had to ask myself
And I went to my agency. I said look has anybody have I lost any business because of what they're alleging
It's like no
Mm-hmm. Oh, I let it go because if had I had then I'm gonna have to see some of these people
I'm gonna see so what you want. That's right. That's right. Now
Let's see. Your accusations ain't as bad as the accusations that he like,
when somebody call you a pedophile. Right. And then assert, then he put you to certify it on.
Yeah. I'm not just a pedophile. Yeah. I'm a certified pedophile. You got papers and everything.
What? You know, you, when you're certified, you're certified you got papers Yeah, hey, no school district. Hey stay here. Okay. Stay there. No check in. That's right
So that's like you say that if I was in if I was tied to any business with Drake
I would be looking like all right. Well, what's up? What's going on?
What is it? Well, you talked about that man family you say this is your child in here
So you say hey if you go low we go in the hell
Yeah, but that ain't got no way up against the those rumors was I mean that that accusation so I get I guess
It's a situation Jess where you step on my toe and somebody knocked you out. Yeah, you're like bro
You have to do it like right right you know I'm saying
So kid you went all the way off and but he did say he did give a warning and you for you
He did he said all right. I'm a chill out, but you know I'm saying I he gave the warning
Yeah, I go right, but I go like he ate him up in euphoria even more than not like us. Yeah, he called Drake
Kendrick, I mean Drake called Kendrick a woman beater then change it called Jacob pedophile. I mean, yeah
What's it about what you think?
Do you think this initiated about did it have anything to do with women because we know guys we were a
Ram will butt hands about a female. I honestly don't think it had anything to do with one
I think that's more so like a Drake thing
I think Drake would get mad over a woman before Kendrick would and I don't know either one of these brothers, but knowing what I
We've all seen and how we know Drake is a very emotional person
Kendrick is a very healed person like he rap like he is in therapy currently
Yes, you know what I mean, and he goes deep with things. I think that that I don't think it's a body woman. Yeah, uh-huh
Yes, listen, he rapping for ancestors and everything. Yes, you know once upon a time we was like the business
Lloyd, yeah, you know, so yeah. Yeah, I don't I don't think it was over a woman
I don't what about DJ academics taking shots at you while seemingly supporting Drake you could you know
Do you know him have you ever met him? I never met his fat ass and my lord never
I never met him in my life, and I never will because he's always in the basement
so
Yes, huh?
Always in the basement child
Always in the basement. Child, I don't, why?
Why people come for us?
I don't know.
Shannon, you know, I guess because we're very confident people.
People love to see you win until you win.
You know what I mean? They love, they want you to be cocky.
No, they want you to win,
but they don't want you to be cocky with it.
They don't want you to celebrate yourself.
They put a seal, and people will put a seal on you.
Ain't no sealin' over here.
I'm going straight up.
I don't care how long it takes me to get there.
I'm not gonna play no games.
I'm not gonna cut no corners.
You know what I mean?
Unless it's all legitimate.
But people put a sealin' on you,
and I think that's the problem
People don't want to see you went into you surpassed with winning to them right right, you know and then now
It's a problem. Oh, she need to calm down or oh he need to calm down like no don't get above yourself
Well, why right? Why are you trying to keep me humble? Right? What is that? No, why you right?
because the thing is when I was at uh uh when I
was at Fox and uh my term and I got ended up let go people like man they did you wrong yada yada yada
then I start winning ESPN picked me up I'm on a bigger platform. That's right. Um my podcast
I start another podcast and it goes and so now everybody got a problem. Yeah, I'm the same Shannon
I was the same Shannon that y'all love when I supported Colin Kaepernick
I was the same Shannon that when things transpired that I spoke positive about my people. Mm-hmm. Ain't nothing changed
No, I'm just winning a little more and now it's a problem. Yeah. Yeah
I don't I don't I don't get that about us.
Because they put a ceiling on you.
You weren't supposed to do all of that.
You weren't supposed to.
You were supposed to just fall by the wayside
and do what they had in their mind for you to do.
But you surpassed a lot of people's expectations.
When you see negative comments about Jess,
what's the first thing that goes through your mind?
But then it's like I am reformed I have come so much further than that and my growth in that is just like look
you can't
Beat everybody you can't respond to everybody, you can't win them all, listen.
It's like, whatever.
You can't go to war with everybody.
You can't go to war with everybody, no you can't.
But you be thinking like, I'ma get them.
I do, yeah, because listen, if a comment gets you crazy,
I like to go to your page and scroll,
and don't have it public, and I can scroll down
and look at you and look at your
Parents and see who made you and see who you look like and and you talk crazy like that look like your dad I'm gonna tell you yeah, yeah
Mm-hmm. So yeah, I don't talk about about kids though, but the yeah
Don't try me
That's it
You never talk kids are always gonna to be off. Oh hell yeah.
Yeah, I believe once you talk about somebody kids, they can say anything to you.
It don't matter.
It don't matter.
Don't talk about nobody's children y'all.
And you can say anything back.
I don't care what it is.
You see whatever you can to hit below somebody talk about your children.
Children are innocent.
You talked about this a little earlier
The TV show with little rail. Yes on Fox with Sinbad
So tell me tell me tell me a little bit about it. It was amazing
It was amazing working with Sinbad like he dropped so many
Yes, he dropped so many gems that was the person cuz I'm trying to see her and think when you asked me a little bit earlier
Anybody ever give you any advice Sinbad, but it wasn't for stand-up.
It was just like in general life.
Life lessons.
Yeah.
But he is a comedian that did give me advice on that set.
It was nice.
It was amazing working.
That was the first time I'd ever been
a part of a big production like that.
They treated me well.
Money was great.
Especially coming from Wild N' Out.
Yes.
I was like, okay, Fox, what?
Okay.
I got my own pocket spot.
I got, you know, I get money.
I get money to eat and all types of stuff.
Listen, Fox, they treat their people well.
So yes.
But it was amazing.
And then, Ro had a different OG come every single episode.
So that's what was unique about his show.
So Florence from the Jeffersons.
Yes, Marla Eaves.
Yes, Marla Eaves.
She was there.
She was amazing.
Then he had Leon. Leon ain and got no last name. Leon is
we know Leon the temptation. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Leon he was there and Leon still finds it. But it just just a series of oh geez and just like
people before our time where it came and who was still like their season but they are like that and they they came through and they showed
Up for him, you know for that that that first season and although the show
Cancel, yeah, you had to say it. I was gonna say okay
Damn, he made sure it got canceled. No, but I want I wanted to ask I mean after 12 episodes it got canceled
So how did that make you feel? I mean, did you think you was gonna get picked up
for season two?
I did, I did.
I honestly, I did, I thought we were going to get picked up.
While I felt like the writing could have been better,
and I felt like it could have
depict us more.
It was a lot of people pleasing happening
because you really gotta be careful how you move
in terms of making a project based on a culture,
like based on our culture, you know,
if it's going on Fox, you know what I mean?
And at first I wasn't even gonna be casted
because they thought that I was too green for it.
But in those terms, she has never done this before.
So we don't basically, we don't trust that she will be
a great, you know, commodity for the show.
But Ro picked picked me,
and also Carmichael, Jirard Carmichael picked me for me to be in there, along with Roe as well.
But it was just a lot of things that we didn't resonate with that they wanted to change the
script to. And Roe will push back and Jirard will push back and you know but I just think
I just think you think they should have been a little bit more malleable more flexible you know
it just could have been and I think that's what we were missing on the show but you know you learn
and it was Raul's first show and I think honestly it was even too early for him to have a show of his own.
You mentioned that those TV checks, they hit different.
Mm-hmm, especially over there at Fox.
You had spent a couple of them checks already
expecting a new season?
Listen, I still got a lot of money from Fox.
What?
Yes, I still do.
I still get money from Wild N Out.
They always send me like $9.88 checks every now and then. You know Yes, I still do. I still get money from Wild N Out. They always send
me like $9.88 in checks every now and then. You know, I can use that. I can use that.
Go to what? Go to Chipotle, get a couple of apple juices. You know, something. Let me
ask you a question. What is something that you wish you knew before you got into the
TV business? Something that I wish I knew before I got into the TV business.
Because I think if you were to do another TV show, you would be even more prepared than
you were with that one.
Because you know things that you didn't know when you did that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hmm. I honestly, I honestly don't wish I knew anything before. I would literally do this
all over again. I would. I would. I would. As it relates to people though. I wish I knew certain agendas or the agendas of certain people that
claims to be so close. I love you, you I mean? I wish I knew
the agendas of certain people. Okay.
You know?
Yeah, which is why I don't hang out with people
in the industry.
I don't like to receive advice from everybody.
I don't even like everybody praying for me.
No they not.
They praying, but not for the good though.
That's right.
So I don't even.
Yeah, I'm like, you know, I prayed for you.
Don't. Please don't, why you do't even. You know I pray for you.
Don't.
Please don't.
Why you do that?
Because I already know.
What did God say?
God should have told you, look she don't want you to.
She told me don't be accepting prayers from you.
You know.
Lil Rel is really L-I-L Rel now.
Oh hell yeah.
Why everybody believe that man on TV?
He need to put the tea the two teas
Yeah in the name not just little it's little rel now. He's literally little rel now
I mean I had him all he thin
He thin thin. Yeah, just people think he on that zimpy. Yeah, and he said he's not got that package. He said what bag is
What bag is that? It's on the car, but you know, you know, you know when black people you yeah, you lose a little weight
No, you damn right And that's that's in any city. I'm gonna say that's growing up in Baltimore City in any city where it's black people you you getting sick
What's okay? Damn, you can't ever lose weight. I know people I got a gym membership. I just
I'm on crack like all right, we lose weight, you know, but um, why we like that right?
I like that just that's how we grew up. Yes a drastic change
Yeah, I'm going on. Yep, and if you big, I mean if you small, and you blow up, you on depo. That's what
they say for the women, oh she must have got that depo vera shot, that birth control.
Yup. But I don't know, I don't know. He said that
he wasn't, we had him up at the breakfast club, he totally turned down the rumors of
being on ozempic, and he said he's working out, and he said he's working out and he said he's the
happiest he's ever been in his life, you know?
Because I know he was supposed to get married because when he came on us he was supposed
to get married.
Yeah, he's married.
I believe he is married.
I don't know.
No, no, no.
He might be because he refers to her as his wife.
So they may have gotten married already.
The BBL. Do you think Hollywood is this, is this what women just want to do?
Or there is a pressure, a societal pressure to do this?
I think, I think a lot of people are not happy with their bodies.
And now that there, there is a way that you can change that, you know,
and at first it really wasn't
affordable to a lot of people, but now it is. You can put, you can make payments on,
you know, your surgery and everything, and I used to joke about it, but it's like,
you know what? If there is something seriously wrong with you, to you, and now
you have all of these resources to fix it. Right.
Why not?
Go ahead.
I just wish women would do it in moderation.
Like all these repeat offenders.
I know girls that go and get lipo twice a year.
Yeah.
Like that.
I ain't working out.
What I look like working out?
I can call a doctor, such and such. Yeah, you can also know, I ain't working out what I look like working out. I can call a doctor such as such
Yeah, you can also die too daddy. Like I don't you know what I'm saying? Like you
Just because you've done this before
You don't ever have your mind that this may be the time
Oh, I don't wake up this may be they may hit an artery or a nerve or something in a vein
And you know, but the thing is I mean
some of them they it's just too crazy I mean it should be subtle I look if you
want to do it that's your body yeah let it be subtle but when it's looking I'm
like and everybody like exactly come on now mm-hmm I know I mean you can't you
can't be 150 pounds with a 50- booty. I know, yeah, yeah.
Or when you...
Or when you already start off 300 pounds
and then you go get lipo,
you get the fat sucked out the middle part
and then now is, I don't know.
It look like one of the dumb dogs.
They wanna be like, they now you look teeny tiny weight
Yes, come on big up here and then you big down there and it is just not proportioned
Right, you know, you got a big but your back can't be bothered minding things. It's sexy. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying
Mmm, would you do would you do?
What would I do it? Yeah, I wouldn't do it again. I've actually had a fat transfer and I've had my boobs done. Yes
I mean, I don't really think I don't really people don't really look at boobs like that and something drastic
But when they get oh, yeah when they get a BBL and they they keep going back and getting fillers
Yeah, all that other stuff. Yeah
I got my BBL back
When it was called a fat transfer, Okay, it wasn't called a BBL
Okay, cuz I didn't get my butt lifted. That's why I said I don't know why they call it a Brazilian butt lift
it was it was called a fat transfer before and I got it done in Atlanta and
And it was fine
But when I went my doctor had told me like look yo, you don't got enough fat the beach
I said listen, whatever you got pull it out. I'm like Gina waters
I got a lot of muscle on my sides. I've never had hips give me hips, please
And he was would you have hip dip? I yeah like I would like they would be dented
Yeah, and I'm like, oh, I'm tired of looking strong
You know, yeah, I want I want some type of curve
Yeah, you know, I'm sorry
We're gonna fill it out as much as we can
But one thing you need to know about fat when you take it out and all the fluid drain from it
It's not what it looks like. So you're gonna the swelling is gonna go down. It's probably gonna look the same
I said do it anyway
Yeah
And so that's why people don't believe that I did get a BBL because it doesn't really look like it
But I think I got one of the most natural-looking surgeries ever. Hmm
Doctor who?
But your sister called you out for that, huh? Yeah that heifer
Tried me real bad cuz she got fired
Why you tell her?
She my god, I've been knowing this girl since I was two years old
Cuz I got I fired her she was working for me she was my
driver. Listen I didn't even have a job opportunity for her. I created a job for this girl right and oh my god it hurt me so bad that she did that and she claimed it hurt her so bad because I fired her.
And yeah she she had children and you know. What'd she do? So why did you fire her?
I fired her because she wasn't doing her damn job.
Listen, this girl, we was on the road, right?
And this girl stole my wig and my car
to go do something, go meet,
I don't know if it was to meet a guy or something.
We in another city.
Who you know?
How you know somebody down here in Florida?
Why would you take my
wig? I supposed to wear it on stage tonight. You can still wear it that night but she was
going to use it that day. I sure did wear it on stage that night when she gave it back.
But she going to come in there with some flowers and you took my car and then the security
I had at the time he liked that too so he didn't even tell me. And so I woke up like
oh Shay was supposed to been back
She went to go get something for you. I know she wouldn't get something for her
She got it. Yeah, she probably had the wig on
I get back my wig all smelly. I'm like, what's going on?
Yeah, it's like somebody else sex wig I'm like, oh I gave it away get to the show look and and you're fired
So that's it. So how hard does it work with family? Oh my god
I think could you hear a lot some people say it's okay
Some people say no family and friends when it comes to business when it comes to work relationship, leave it alone. Mm-hmm
Leave it alone. Yeah, sometimes they can work Shannon. Sometimes it can but
Oftentimes it will not and then sometimes it starts off great and it can go for years and years and years
and
then a person
You'll see the jealousy you see because now they pan in such into your pockets
Yeah, yeah what so what you're going to do what you could do for them, right?
You know and how you can and then sometimes
what you could do for them. Right.
You know, and how you can,
and then sometimes people wanna be you
and you don't even realize that.
You know what I mean?
And so they become,
first it feels like a weird obsession
until they get upset with you about something
and then they start telling you
they are the reason that you are where you are.
You know what I mean?
So yeah, I
One joke Not now you ain't even help right?
None of this none of this you don't get up every morning and get on the show
Listen, you don't you don't you're not flying back and forth and you're not being away from your damn kids and you're you're not
having to deal with controversy after car and trying to figure out like
having to deal with controversy after and trying to figure out like how you can keep this shit moving.
Right.
Without me, none of y'all eat.
And I need y'all to know that.
And I don't even like throwing that out there like that.
But that's me.
Right.
Right there.
You know, I gave y'all jobs and positions and y'all just, I just did whatever with it,
taking advantage.
And I'm a really, really kind hearted person.
I'm not a pushover, but I love very hard.
And I had to make some very, yes.
And I had to make some very tough decisions,
firing family and actually not speaking to a few of them now.
Like, yeah, man, man people still and people
Just yeah, they'll sabotage you if they feel like they ain't getting enough
You know you were the first lady of BML. How was that experience working with Vivica Fox was amazing?
I love her. I love her love her. She checks on me. She hits me up
She checked on me even after doing the the production doing after doing the movie with her
So yeah, that was amazing. That was good doing it
But you had a little you you and little me chat look at you y'all y'all resolve that
No, I think he got other stuff to do now
like he got some other resolve and he needs to do at this point, but
He had came to Wild N Out. Yeah, and he's a little busty. Yeah
And he you know, I that's all I said, you know, but I didn't say it first
I mean going at hey y'all little meets musty. It was somebody else. I think from another city
No, I co-signed it. Oh, okay. All right
I said, you know, I did smell that one time that he was up there
If you get apartment and you can't get it and I co-sign it, you don't pay for it, who they gonna hit up?
Yeah, yeah, so they
But it was one of his fans who he did a club hosting and she had went online and she had said
Lord, man, it's stank and then we reported it up at the breakfast club and I said well
He did have a little stench when he came up at Wildin' Out, you know, wasn't nothing too crazy
He could have been out the night before and just didn't have time hit the showers
You know, but he got upset and you know, but you know, he was with Summer Walker
Yeah, they got he needed you need to tell him they got wipes
I got the wipes. Whoa. Whoa. So Summer Walker came to his opinion came at you
Yeah, man
She she was like she ain't like come at me crazy
But you know what summer be in love she be in love and she don't it don't care what it don't matter what them guys do
She's gonna go back go to bat for them guys right now. She had came out and she was just like um
This little girl want him or something like that. I'm like little girl, baby. Excuse me, huh, but
Around my birthday, right? this is CIAA weekend.
This was two years ago.
I had a birthday party and Lil Meach was in town
for CIAA.
He was doing a party right down the street
for my birthday party.
I DMed him and said, hey,
cause I wanted some more star power at my party.
I said, hey, I don't know what you're doing
after your party, but if you wanna stop
past my birthday party, we do have a section for you
or whatever, you know, something like that.
This man screenshotted that and posted it
After I said that he was a little musty, you know
Like I was trying to get with him and then what I got mad at summer about was you so damn dumb you think
That was me trying to get at him
If I was summer I'd have been like nobody this ain't nothing to use
This is not like you can't post this if you won't come at her come at her
But she ain't trying to get with you here like come on
Let's just let's just use your your mind as a woman or your heart as a woman like you know
I wasn't trying to get with that little boy
He looked like Rob Schneider, you know the guy that do this big ol' male, jiggle ol' dude.
But she call you a lot of names and say you, you're...
No, she, did she call me a lot of names?
I think she just said this little girl with this something.
She called you ugly.
She called me ugly?
Oh my God.
They use one chromosome away?
I ain't even know she even said that word.
She said one chromosome away from what?
These two chromosome of you. Me. even though she even said that word she said one chromosome away from what these
two chromosome of you me she does I'm a pray for her to I'm glad you didn't know
that I'm glad I didn't I'm glad that you told me idea let it go she tried to call me one of them let it go
That's that's what he did he let it go and then she had to move on and don't add to all of that
That cousin wasn't that cousin that cousin was somebody he was dealing with so he let your go see there you go
Can't believe she said that.
What's the next question?
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