Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Kash Doll Part 1
Episode Date: February 5, 2025The Queen of Detroit, Kash Doll, joins Club Shay Shay for an unforgettable conversation with Shannon Sharpe. In this must-watch episode, the platinum-certified rapper, actress, ent...repreneur, and philanthropist drops knowledge with her Kash Kommandments, revealing the unfiltered rules every woman should live by when it comes to love, money, and self-respect. Kicking things off with a live performance of her hit track “Kash Kommandments” from her latest album The Last Doll, Kash Doll sets the stage for an insightful conversation about relationships, independence, and leveling up. She shares the inspirations behind her music, including how The Notorious B.I.G.'s Ten Crack Commandments shaped her own empowering message for women. From navigating the entertainment industry as a self-made boss to balancing motherhood and business, Kash Doll gets real about the lessons she’s learned. She reveals why women should never let a man play them twice, how to spot insecurity disguised as control, and why loyalty and authenticity always trump wealth. She also touches on the challenges of staying true to yourself in the industry and emphasizes knowing your worth. Kash Doll opens up about the hard lessons she’s learned regarding family, financial boundaries, and self-sufficiency. She drops gems about the importance of having your own money to avoid feeling trapped, stating, “If he brings all the food to the table, you give him all the power to starve you.” The conversation shifts to friendships, loyalty, and the importance of saying “no” to establish boundaries. Kash Doll shares her perspective on masculinity in relationships, explaining how the right man can bring out a woman's softer side, but the wrong one turns it into a power struggle. Reflecting on her journey, Kash Doll takes us back to her childhood in Detroit, sharing stories of tough times, school struggles, and growing up in a household where she had to step into a caregiving role for her siblings. She talks about her early jobs—working at Little Caesars and Best Buy—and how exotic dancing gave her the confidence to make her mark in music. Kash Doll’s story is one of resilience, empowerment, and self-made success. #volume See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Shayshay. I am your host, Shannon Sharpe.
I'm also the proprietor of Club Shaysche. Stopping by for conversation and a drink today
is one of hip hop's most influential voices.
She's known for putting out confident bars
and empowering anthems.
She's made a significant impact in the music industry
over the last decade.
A platinum certified rapper,
a respected entertainer, all star.
She's a multi-talented actress, performer,
recording artist, and a songwriter.
She's a successful businesswoman,
a celebrated philanthropist.
She's earned the Spirit of Detroit Award
for her charitable work, a loving mother,
the Queen of Detroit.
Now take out your notepads.
She's about to break down her cash commandments,
the one, the only cash doll.
["Go Breeze"]
Hey.
Go Breeze.
Katie. Go briz, go briz, briz
KD, as women, as rules, we need to stand by
Stand for something to fall for anything
Never let a nigga fuck you over more than once
Anybody owe you bread, do not accept the crime stream
Remember, you can never tell these bitches everything
Today she call you sis so tomorrow she an enemy
Money to the side don't let no b**** leave you dry
Stay no business if they say it's up you better ride
Keep the family first with that in front of everything
Bet that on yourself if you gon' roll a dice on anything
Any points to be made don't be scared to prove it
And you better look good when you do it
It's losing how to move out here, you know this shit get ugly
I had a bitch do me the dirty, it's proclaiming love me
I went through hella shit and back to be kicked up and comfy
You see how hard I grind, lil' bitch don't ever call me lucky
You fuck the nigga good enough and he gon' think he own you
The broke ones usually insecure, the rich ones try to control you
That's why it's always best to choose the one that's real and loyal cuz money come and go but it's some shit
You can't teach time go always separate the hustles from the leeches
The loudest is the weakest give a fuck about what they screaming and don't be matching up energy with hoes in no way
Be realer than that lame shit cuz that right there got no place
Thank you, thank you, oh my goodness because that right there got no place. Fuck off. Woo! Hey, DC!
Thank you, thank you.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah, come on over here.
We got to give her the cash with that one.
Come on over here.
We got the thangs fucked up.
Hey, you in play.
Come on, come on.
All my life, been grinding all my life.
Sacrifice, hustle pay the price.
Want a slice, got to roll the dice.
That's why all my life I been grinding all my. All my life, I been grinding all my life.
All my life, been grinding all my life.
Sacrifice, hustle pay the price.
Want a slice, got to roll the dice.
That's why. All my life, I been grinding all my life.
I want to personally thank you for performing your hit song,
Cash Commandmentsments off your album
The Last Doll of Club Cheche. I really really appreciate that.
No, I appreciate you having me.
I want to toast you. I don't know you. This is my personal cognac.
Oh man.
Just a little, just a little.
Oh. For you.
Thank you so much.
I don't even drink liquor.
You don't?
I'm Champagne Campagne.
Okay, that's what's up. So I appreciate you.
But for you you for having me
to the successful
Rapper singer artist mother. Yes entrepreneur. Thank you so much
I left a little bit but it's cool. I know you I thought we you just gonna take a little sip, but okay
Dang, I thought you were just going to take a little sip, but okay. That's it.
Ooh.
All right, let's get into it, Cash.
Cash commandments.
In the cash commandments, you lift off rules that women should live by.
Were these rules, because I think Biggie had the 10 crack commandments.
So is that something that you're kind of playing off that?
Yeah, yeah.
That was the inspiration.
Okay. So is that something that you kind of playing off that yeah, yeah, that was that was the inspiration Okay, so let me ask you this if women were to live by these rules how much better or how?
Better would our culture be I?
mean
We will have less
Toxic relationships, I feel like okay
The friendships, okay
You know having it would be less in a my city
You know, um, I think it's always gonna be something. Okay, but it'll just be a little bit more peaceful
Because now you have these rules in your head to know to live by that you kind of like you dodging the bullet
Right, you know, I'm saying sometimes you just go cause you dodging the bullet like right you know I'm saying sometimes you just don't cause you like damn the rules sometimes I'm mad at that
at all because even when you do that you still learn the lesson right so are
your first commandment you says never let a dude mess over you more than once
what do you mean by that over you like not just cheat but*** over you, like not just cheating, but like f*** over you.
Once you let a man f*** over you, he's going to continue to do it.
That's the worst.
F***ing over you is the worst.
So once he's done the worst to you, it's over.
Because now you're going to be a doormat.
That's what I feel like.
What's the one thing, so what would Cash Doll let slide? What's KD gonna let slide?
I ain't let shit slide.
Not even one time you can't make one mistake?
You let him get a slide, you want to cha-cha.
No, we cha-cha slide. No, we ain't doing none of that. We ain't doing none of that.
We're addressing everything right then and there.
Damn!
Float out. No. I give you grace.
Okay.
But I ain't letting you slide.
So you gonna check it?
Yeah, I'm gonna check it right there and don't do that.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
But once you do it again, it's over.
Oh, so you got my grace, you'll give me one time,
a one time pass.
I give grace, I give grace.
Okay, okay, okay.
I give grace.
Because you know we learning each other.
Yes, yes.
So I'm letting you know, that ain't gonna fly.
Right. So if you go do it again
You try to get like creative with it and try to sneak
You're done. Okay, so say you have sex with a dude so good that he thought he owned you
What do you mean by that? You said I did not say that Shannon you did that's what you I just heard it
I heard it
You nigga good enough that he would think he own you.
The broke ones usually insecure. The rich ones try to control you.
So you really believe that?
You don't?
I'm a dude.
I've been broke. I wasn't insecure when I was broke.
I was just broke because everybody else I knew was broke.
After that I said, that's why you always keep the one that's real and loyal.
Because money come and go, but it's some shit you can't teach.
Wow.
So, a lame, insecure, broke nigga, yes, he's insecure.
A rich nigga that never had nothing, finally got it, he think he control you with his money.
But when you got a real one, it's some shit you can't teach.
But do you feel like, see, it's hard,
it's gonna be hard to control you, Cash,
because you got your own.
So you looking at it through a different prism
than a lot of other women.
I mean, some thinkers get beside themselves.
Like they kind of forget, like, okay,
like I could date a guy, right?
Right.
And they could forget who I am and what I got going on.
Because once you become somebody woman and submissive.
They don't look at you like that.
They forget.
Yeah.
You know, I just remind them a little daily reminder.
But you can't do what you can't.
A little daily reminder.
But Cash, you can't do that though.
What you mean?
Let's just say for the sake of argument, you and I dating.
I can't come to you and say,
hey, you know your boy, now you know who you got, right?
I don't say that.
I'm gonna show it. Okay, right.
Evident.
It's better to show than tell.
Like talking too much.
Let me ask you this.
Can you, could you date a nine to five guy?
Or does he need to be like,
I'm not saying you're like athletes,
but I'm just saying hypothetical.
An athlete, an entertainer, celeb.
I mean, can you get down with a nine to five?
Keep it a buck now.
If you can, you can, if you can't.
I like, look, I got a feeling that I get.
Like, I like a vibe.
It ain't too much what a man has.
So if you make me feel some type of way,
I'm gonna give you a chance.
But I'm trying to be realistic about a nine to five and I travel.
And I, and I have a lifestyle that he probably wouldn't understand.
A nine to five, that's like a schedule. I'm all over the place.
So I don't know how that'll work, but I try.
If, if he got me going like that, if I'm feeling like that, I'm gonna I'm gonna give him a little chance
I mean because I'm not dating for the other things, right? But I do like things like right. I like to be spoiled
I like to be loved on and I
Love all that right, but if you make me feel some type of way,
I mean sometimes women motivate men.
You mentioned that a nine to five,
probably more times than not,
is not gonna be understand your schedule
because you're on the road a lot.
I think I don't know a whole lot of men
that's gonna understand your schedule.
Even a guy that's a celeb or an entertainer
because it's normally the other way around.
You wait, he travel, he does this, you wait.
Now you're traveling and he's like,
you're like, uh, did you fight?
Has that been a problem with you?
I mean.
Yeah.
They have.
They want me to sit down, Shannon.
They want me to sit down.
You ain't trying to do that, but you hot.
You hot, you can't sit down.
I mean, you doing your thing, your music, your acting, your philanthropic work, you can't sit down. I mean, you doing your thing, your music, your acting,
your philanthropic work.
You can't sit down.
I mean, Beyonce and Jay-Z made it work.
Yeah.
So it could work.
It just has to be the right man.
But Beyonce ain't sitting down.
I mean, I just did this and just get off tour.
Exactly.
But guess what?
He was right with her.
Yeah.
I seen him in the VIP.
I was like, oh, they go Jay right there.
Right.
Support with a shirt on with our picture on it.
Wow.
And it's a billion dollar man himself.
Yes.
I feel like it'll work.
Right.
You just gotta find the right one.
You can't expect the type of man to be able to stand back.
It takes, and Jay a hell of a, so.
That's what's, your second commandment,
if someone owes you bread, never accept crumbs.
Don't accept the crumb.
You feel that.
Come on, I know you do.
You better not say you don't.
I do.
Right.
So you want, if somebody owe you, you want it all.
Not no pieces.
No, cause I ain't gave you pieces.
Give me what I gave you.
Exactly, I ain't give you pieces.
Give me my money.
But why is it like that?
You give somebody money.
And they wanna pay you back in increments.
No.
Oh, here's your little piece of money.
It wasn't a piece when I gave it to you.
It was a whole.
And now I'm calling you.
I feel like I'm hounding you for my money and now you got an attitude.
Why, why, why, why I get like that? What's that? No, I don't know, I don't know. I think that
I be feeling like I asked you for some money so you got it. Yeah. I don't. You need something?
Yeah, I'll let you know. But it's like I make my money. For me, I ain't making money to give to you.
Right. The hell?
But I think people just be feeling entitled.
The people that ask to borrow stuff,
you know, some people feel entitled.
Some people actually borrow something
and never ask to borrow again, you know?
So I just feel like it's just the people.
Have you adopted, I adopted the plan
that if I give, I give,
cause I know I'm not gonna get it back.
So I can't even expect it.
So if I give you money, I'm only gonna be able to back. So I can't even expect it. So if I give you money,
I'm only going to be able to give you
what I can stand not to get back.
Oh, that's a good one.
That's a good one.
Because you know what I do?
What?
Even when I know they don't have it,
if you call me and say,
I got the money, sometimes I just like keep it.
As long as you try to give me the money.
Okay.
You see what I'm saying?
Yeah, I see.
So now I'm going to start doing that. Like I'm going to just give you what I feel like I can take as they money. Okay. You see what I'm saying? So now I'm gonna start doing that.
Like I'm gonna just give you what I feel like I could take as they ill. Okay.
You taught me something. Oh so that's what you're doing so if I...let your boy hold some cash.
I ain't got no money for you. I ain't got no money for you.
Number three cash commandment number three.
Not to tell people everything. You said keep everyone out of your game,
women out of your bedroom.
Y'all do share a lot.
Women, I feel sometimes, I could be wrong,
you can correct me.
Do you feel women share more than men?
I don't know, because I'm not a man
and I don't know how men talk.
So I'll have to literally sit around.
Well, I know from like being friends with guys before,
like they'll tell me a lot of stuff,
but I don't know how they talk to other men.
This new generation, they gossip a little bit much.
Oh, these niggas so new.
We all a little past this generation.
We didn't tell, we didn't tell every,
we didn't tell everything, they tell everything. Tell some stuff and then some people be excited or whatever the case may be but I feel like women
Like women have jealous traits guys do too. I told they don't know but
But we have like women have like have, like, jealous traits,
and you just got to know who to tell what to.
Like, I have, like, a good five solid female friends,
you know, and I tell all of them,
one person I tell everything to, some people I don't,
some people I tell what I want them to know, you know?
Right.
But when you tell, when you know somebody wants your life
or want the position that you in,
you really can't tell everything
You know what I'm saying because they use it against you or they try to feel like that's what you damn
They're giving them instructions to be there, you know
So gotta be careful. You got a little thing to you might be educating the enemy. You see what I'm saying?
Yeah, you're giving them instructions to be you like no, that's not cool
So I feel like that's just not safe and then we see so many incidents where women was go they back door you cash they do cash
like that I don't know if they have but I've seen this happen yes because they
want your life what not just me not women but why they do that they know
cash talking to somebody and and then they try to-
Oh, that's why I'm never getting
in another public relationship.
I was going to ask, see, I was about to ask you that.
Oh, oh, don't be, throwing the pussy,
throwing the pussy, throwing the pussy.
You get some pussy, you get some pussy, you get some pussy.
Wait, if they know that's your, like,
you can intimidate a lot of women,
but then they also want what you have, because they see you, they see you on the internet, they
see you popping, they see you happy, they see you traveling, and they want what you
have, so who is the sh** behind it?
Because they don't know that we can do it ourselves, women that make money.
They want to know who the sh** behind it.
I want that.
Women want other women's life, especially on Instagram, you know what I'm saying?
You popping, you looking good, your life, you seem happy, you know what I'm saying? You pop in you looking good your life
You seem happy, you know, you got it going on. You're traveling everybody you all over the blogs and stuff
Like they want that they want the attention. So if they feel like it's an behind it. Oh
He's getting fucked do they do you feel that women look and there's like, oh she thinks he all that but I'm hitting
Oh, yeah. Yeah, they think that's a way to like they think that's a way to getting
that you like well hurt you know I'm saying yeah her nigga for the streets
hurt for everybody or whatever the case may be when you was nothing but a and
walk away with nothing but a wet ass
I don't know you know you know Lord have mercy but let me ask you this how do you handle money in business from money in business so how do you keep it separate because like you know family you want
to help the family but some family you can't help you can't help everybody. You can't rescue everybody
I don't have Noah's Ark, so I can't take two of everything right so how does cash dog handle that I?
Don't you tell you tell them no well
Some people I do it just depends on if it makes me feel like okay
Cuz I've done it so much before and I waste so much money mm-hmm helping so many people
You know damn they're going broke helping other people.
And it got to a point where I'm like, OK, this got to make sense.
You know, I don't get no phone calls anymore.
People don't call me, ask me for stuff no more.
I mean, my little sisters and my mom, they don't payroll.
You know, they still help me.
I'd be feeling like it got to be reciprocated in some kind of way.
Yes. So I don't feel like it's just one sided withdrawing from me.
Like, give me some kind of way. Yes. So I don't feel like it's just one sided withdrawing from me. Like, give me some deposits to you feel me. So they also helped me with my kids.
They come over and you know, when I'm sick, come help pack, do whatever, you know,
like it's worth it.
So I just make sure that whatever I'm putting out, you know, something is coming back in.
It might not be the same level, but at least you're giving me something.
It could be energy, praying for me,
you helping me with my kids.
You know, you're just making my life easier some way.
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Do you feel that when you told no, that's when you got man Kashia and she done changed.
Oh yeah.
It's the moment you said, because as long as you saying yes, Kashia's cool, that's the
Kashia I grew up with.
She the realest bitch I know.
And as soon as you say no, yeah, she changed.
That bitch lame.
She in the industry.
No.
It's all that.
Right. Yeah, she changed. That b**** lame. She a industry b****.
No, it's all that.
Once you say yes, yes, yes, everything is good,
but when you say no, nope.
And I guess, you know, three and four are kind of similar
because you say today she called you sis,
tomorrow she's an enemy.
Yeah.
You've had falling out with friends
or you thought with so-called friends once you became
this cash?
I'm so blessed, but I haven't had real falling out with real friends.
I'm blessed.
God loved me, I can say, in that department because I haven't had real fallouts.
Like me and a friend, probably we won't talk for a little minute, like, all right, you
know what you just.
But it ain't no like we bout to fight.
Right.
You know what I'm saying.
I did want like when I was younger, probably when I was like 21 and I stayed with someone.
Yeah.
Me and her got into it.
Right.
And we got into a fight.
And that but that was so young.
Right.
You know what I'm saying.
But it was never like I had real issues.
Right.
With somebody.
It ain't been about no dude, is it?
No, we ain't tripping over no man.
We ain't doing that.
You can have it.
If it's that serious.
It ain't that serious though.
It ain't gonna never be that serious.
Right.
Where I'm about to fall out with a friend over a guy.
Right.
Cause if he doing that and you doing that,
it ain't even nothing worth fighting over real
The fifth one says money to the side. Don't let no nigga. Hey
Get your drink
No, you get your word get you know, what's great to get
What you mean by that what it sound like
Because you know women, they get with a guy with a couple dollars and they forget themselves.
They forget to make the money themselves, they forget to keep their life going themselves.
They just get caught up in that life.
And then once you get with a man that feeds you
and he bring all the food to the table,
you give him all the power to starve you.
So it's like, have your own money.
Do what you gonna do.
Let him do him too,
cause we love.
But just always have your own money.
So if you leave, you ain't just stuck looking crazy,
like what's my next move? Cause then you ain't just stuck looking crazy like what's my next
move cuz then you can't leave right now you have to tolerate anything bulljive
you do you do and and girls really look for the life of having a man that take
care of them when that come with something if you ain't got a real one
yeah that's first off cuz it's some real man out here and I take care of that
woman and do the right thing but when you don't got a real one. Yeah. That's first off, because there's some real men out here that take care of their women and do the right thing.
But when you don't and they use that money as power,
they run over these women.
You see these girls every day.
They be up one day, next day.
Like, where that car go?
Yeah.
You let a man sit you down?
So, A.
The right man can sit me down.
He got to be the right one.
He got to be the right one, y'all. OK. Sit me down. Like, what you mean, sit me down? Who will sit me down. He gotta be the right one. He gotta be the right one, y'all.
He can sit me down.
Like, what you mean, sit me down?
He's gonna sit me down.
Since you're down, like, hey, Cash,
you ain't gotta worry about nothing.
Don't worry about nothing.
Hey, you don't want a tour,
you don't want to do this no more, I got this.
What?
Huh? Yeah. I don't know cash you don't strike me I mean look you got too much pride for me for that I mean but I am still a woman yeah at the end of the day yeah and that's like the goal to sit down
but he just have to be the right man he's gonna still treat me right yeah but you can't think
cuz you set me down that you bought to treat me like anything. And then I'm still
going to be hussed. I'm be at home doing my thing. I'm
packing and I packaging. I'm selling something. I'm doing
something. I'm doing something. You know, but I mean, that's the
that's a goal. But I'm but I'm okay. Okay, okay. Okay. I Sit down six months. I get outside six months fair
That's cool, okay, cuz I still gotta be me cuz who you fell in love it
Okay, true
Because I look at the difference is today y'all is like the feminine, that's the feminine side of you talking.
Yeah, cause I'm feminine.
But y'all be dealing with that masculinity too.
It's the kind of move to the front, okay?
It's the kind of man you dealing with.
When you got a man,
a certain man gonna make that masculine go away.
It's natural.
Okay.
As women, we get around a man that's real masculine.
You can't help but just listen.
Yeah.
All right, tell me what to do.
OK, then.
You know?
But you get a man that's playing,
and he acting like the princess too.
If you dealing with another princess,
you got to out-princess him.
Now I got to show you who the real princess is,
but you got to get a little hard with it.
You feel me?
So I mean, it just depends on what type of man you deal with
That's why I said for me to sit down. It gotta be the right type of man
He got to sit me down and I got to be happy there. I want to be happy sitting down. I
I'm gonna be happy
Sit down
Tweak on my toes sixth commandments. They stand on business if they say it's up. You better ride real
They say stand on business if they say it's up you better ride real
If we good we good stand on business whatever you mean you say don't go back on nothing stand on business And if they want to go if it's if somebody want to do something about it do something about it
Okay
What don't don't really sound down really sound that vivid down that sound masculine to me. But sometimes you gotta get in that bag, Danny.
That don't mean that's to your man.
Let that Detroit, you gotta let that Detroit go, Kat.
You gotta let that go.
Y'all think I'm wrong?
I'm not wrong.
No, I'm not saying that you're wrong.
If you standing on business, you gotta ride on that.
You gotta mean it, you gotta mean what you say.
Your word is everything.
It used to be.
I mean, people, it used to, word used to be bond.
There was no contracts
because the contract was a meeting of the mind.
Hey Cash, check this out.
I got something, you got something.
And then people start reneging.
Well, and then now you had to have a contract.
So word is, you know, word is bond.
You see, word is bond.
That was really, that's what it is.
I mean, that's how it's supposed to be.
So, and I'm just reminding them
that's how it's supposed to be.
The seventh commandment said,
keep family first, put that front of everything.
Yeah, flat out.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes, oh yeah.
Because they was there when I was nothing.
I had nothing, I was always something, but when I didn nothing. I had nothing. I wasn't I was always something
But when I didn't have anything and I was people looked at me a certain way my family
And they put them first, you know, even especially if you have kids, you know your mom your immediate family
Friends become family can ask your question
If you wanted to date somebody and your mom said cash,, I don't think he's right for you, Cash.
You take your mom's advice and you say,
Mom, he make me feel a certain type of way.
I know what he make me feel like.
I know what he do for me.
I ain't gonna lie.
Sometimes those red flags be looking like six flags.
Ma, I'll be right back.
Then I gotta come back and say, you was right.
Yeah, yeah.
You was right, ma.
Sometimes you just gotta enjoy it, because it's an experience and you get lessons after
every situation.
Every situation you learn something from.
You said the loudest is normally the weakest.
Give a f*** about what they screaming.
You know that's true. Anybody, any type of quality, valuable person ain't doing all that.
We chilling.
The loudest really be like hiding their insecurities.
That's why they loud.
They covering up.
Well, I mean, sometimes they like, I don't want you to bother me like a rattlesnake.
But they like stay away.
I don't want to strike you.
I don't want to. That ain't what I wanna do.
I wanna just slither on away over here in these bushes,
leave well enough alone.
But I did warn you,
sometimes guys be talking lies,
they cash, you don't want any problems.
I ain't scared nobody that's talking lies.
I'm not, you the first person I'm going in your shit.
You lie, yeah.
Yeah. You the first person I'm going in your shit. You lie, yeah.
Yeah.
Lord.
Oh Lord, can't.
You said bet on yourself, but I'm going to roll the dice on anything.
Yeah, for real.
Invest in yourself.
You've always been like this?
No, I learned through time.
You learn.
Like, I don't let other people...
Tell you what you can and can't do? Yeah.
What you should or shouldn't do?
Exactly. It's like, let me do it and find out myself.
Even if I do fail, it's cool. I learn from it, you know?
I think you should always bet on yourself first.
How hard is it for you to, like, damn?
Because, you know, there's a saying in cash that says, you know,
a wise man learns from others' mistakes.
A fool has to learn from his own.
Really?
Yeah.
So if I take-
That's who you surround yourself with, right?
Yeah.
See, I surround myself with a lot of quality women.
Okay.
So I take their advice.
Okay.
And I don't make some mistakes with them,
some I still do.
And go back like you did say that.
I shoulda listened.
I shoulda listened.
But I be having experience on my own sometimes.
But most of the time, I kind of dodge bullets, you know,
with the quality people that you have in your life.
I feel like that's important too.
At life, the people that you surround yourself with
and you talk to every day,
and the people that's giving you this advice,
the people that's telling you certain things,
I feel like that's important because, you know,
that's also directing you in different little ways.
So when you made, when someone has given you advice
and you made, you didn't heed that advice
or you didn't adhere to that advice
and you made that mistake,
did you beat yourself up about it or you say,
hey, I made a mistake, hey, I'm just gonna move on?
Sometimes I do.
Sometimes I'm like, how the fuck, you know,
like I didn't see that or I didn't know.
But I don't dwell on that too long.
I always be like, man, it is what it is, you know?
Because we gotta keep going.
Life goes on, it still happens.
Yeah, it's moving.
On the first, bills go get, we gotta get paid.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
I still gotta get on this flight at seven o'clock.
My kids still in their crown.
I gotta go change her diaper.
So that's not, it ain't stopping, no show.
So it's like learn from it and just keep pushing, man. If there's ever a point to be made don't be scared to prove it
Hey
Okay, I just need hopefully after this session this Detroit we will get some of this Detroit up out of you
We got to we gotta get some of the Detroit up out of you
You don't have to prove a point of everything
Yes, you do You don't have a prove a point on everything, Cash. Damn.
Yes, you do.
No.
Yes, you do.
Don't let nobody play with you like that, Shannon.
Why you feel you?
If you want me to prove a point for you, where they at?
Cash, why do you feel you have to prove a point on everything?
If it's points to be made, don't be scared to prove it.
The ones that's worth being made.
OK.
Not every point. You ain't gotta address everything.
Right.
You address a lot though, Kay.
No I don't.
I be chilling.
You think so?
I do.
Maybe somebody else runnin' your account.
I don't even do it no more.
I'm just saying maybe somebody runnin' your account.
I do not be doin' no more on my account.
I be doin' good.
I be doin doing good. I be doing good.
You better look good when you do it.
Hey, hey, hey.
Don't go boring bags on bags
if you can't put it in a bag.
What you mean by that?
I mean.
That's a nice bag.
That's nice.
But I got a bag that costs more than that bag mmm I got a couple dollars
now yeah don't be trying to keep up with the next buying these purses and these
things that you see people with right if you don't even have a bag to put in it
don't be walking around with a bag with nothing in it will but lip gloss. Mm-hmm
No, no
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Do you have, is there a limit on how much money
a woman should spend on her personal appearance?
Hair, lip, nails, makeup, body, whatever the case may be,
is there a limit in which a woman
should spend on her appearance?
Hell no.
I'ma take it there.
I take it there.
I take it there. I'ma do what I gotta do. I like looking good
Yeah, I like feeling good when you look good you feel good and you give good energy
Yeah, you know and that helps you make money, right? You know, it keeps the flow. It keeps the flow
I don't think it's no limit. Yeah, I think y'all think it's a limit to how much you spend on yourself
I mean sometimes I'll be like man, let me call bae
You do fall back sometimes. You know what I'm saying?
Like, all right, I didn't do too much.
Let me calm down.
But I don't think it's a limit.
I think you should keep your hair done, keep your nails done,
keep your appearance up.
You know, like, no, we only live one time, man.
And you know what?
If you do it right, that's enough.
You do it right, you ain't got to do it right that's enough
We've been talking about Detroit what was cash upbringing like in Detroit
My upbringing it was cool
Made the best out of everything. You know, like I'm the oldest of six. Mm-hmm. So we have much but
We made the best out of it happy my whole life. I've been happy. My personality been like this forever because I'm just happy. It wasn't bad but it wasn't like we were
rich. We didn't have it like that. Like we all slept on one bunk bed together. Me and my sisters
and brothers you know. We have like know, it get colder than D.
Sometimes we even have heat.
So we used to use the stove,
have the stove, the fire on the stove
and put a fan in front of it
and it blow heat through it
to come into the room that we're like,
we used to have sleep in the living room.
We used to have curtains to break off each room
to have all the heat in one room.
And it was cool. We had a good time.
We was jumping on that bum bed together, all five of us.
We had a good time.
So I can say I remember not having it,
but at the same time.
Y'all had each other.
Yeah, we had each other.
And I had a good time.
My mom had five kids at 21.
So she used to work. And she used to work and she used to work like in like
the nursing field or whatever like that.
And so she wasn't there most of the time.
So those are my kids.
I was about to say my sister the oldest also she's at eight
years older than that.
Yeah.
And so like when you're the oldest my mom is the oldest
girl.
Yeah, you basically you the doctor.
That's why I took me so long to have them. Because I already had kids.
And they're still my kids.
They're my kids.
Right.
I'm the second mom.
So I used to have to do hair, cook, wash the clothes,
and walk them home.
We'd get in trouble if one person come home
before another person.
So all of us had to come home together,
or else we'd get in a whooping.
Right.
And it was like, it was my responsibility. So or else we getting a whooping. Right. And it was like it was my responsibility so we all gonna whooping
but I'm gonna whooping there. Yeah they definitely expect more of the oldest.
Like no you didn't. Hey you know what I'm saying type shit so it was cool like
you know my mom used to have this old box, Caprice,
and it would be all five of us in the backseat.
It used to look crazy,
because we would pull up at McDonald's,
everybody would be tapping everybody.
You'd see everybody coming looking
at all the kids in the back.
And we used to just be back there smiling.
We'd have people have to get some McDonald's.
Like, shit.
And they used to think it was funny,
like, why she got all them kids?
Mom was young, 21 with five kids.
Wow.
Were you a bully?
Cause I read you beat up guys.
Who?
Cash.
I ain't beat up no guy.
Them guys that bother your little brothers and sisters.
And then you end up liking them.
I ain't like nobody I beat up.
If I beat you up, I can't like you.
I can't.
OK.
I beat up one person.
OK.
We all did because.
Y'all dropped him?
No.
OK.
Let me tell you the story.
OK.
He was wrong.
You're going to agree with me.
So the guy, my sister you the story. Okay. He was wrong, you gonna agree with me. Okay. So, the guy, my sister, but baby daddy.
Okay.
He blacked her eye.
You got to have him.
We pulled up, jumped out the car, ran up in the house.
We went to jail.
You went to jail for beating up your sister, baby daddy?
I went to jail, my sister went to jail,
my brother went to jail, and I had to get a writ.
I had to call the judge to get a writ to get out of jail.
Damn.
See the head?
But that's what you talking about.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I ain't never like, well, he cool now, he all right.
Okay.
He ain't no cousin now, he ain't black or white no more.
So it was his sisters and brothers over there.
So it just was a family affair.
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Oh, so all y'all got the squad.
Anyway, no, but we the ones went to jail
because they the ones that was bleeding.
We the ones, we the ones.
How you run down to somebody's house
and beat them down and you go to jail?
Because they called talking jail because my sister
was still there with them, right?
So we at my house, I'm all the way in West Bloomfield.
My sister called crying, yeah, da, da, da, da, da.
He said, yeah, and Keisha can't come get my kids no more.
I'm pissed about my niece and nephews.
Oh, I can't come get, oh, bet.
We pulled up.
You ain't trying to, you not, hey, look,
don't put your hands on my sister.
My sister ain't did anything to deserve you.
This was like his second, third time.
Oh, okay.
Cause now when you talk, now it's not,
it ain't no more talking.
Right.
The grace period, remember I was saying that?
Right, right.
You can't give them too much grace.
Then they start thinking it's Gracie's Corner.
No.
I do it up at she dance.
Did you play any sports?
Mm-hmm.
What did you play?
Basketball.
You good?
I'm cold.
Shannon, I will go cold.
You cold with it?
What?
What?
You can't afford to go my mom with that pain?
I'm going crazy.
What?
I'm going crazy.
You can't eat that up?
Yeah, I start liking boys. You gave that up?
Yeah, I started liking boys.
Then I was a cheerleader.
How you go from playing sports to cheering for sports?
I've never seen that transition before.
I've never.
I started liking boys, I became a girl after that.
There was no more tomboy, gym shoes, all that.
It was like, okay, let me be a girl.
Did you ever get expelled from school?
Where you get that from?
I'm just asking, Cash.
You looked at something.
You trying to tell my business?
No, I ain't telling no business.
I'ma let you tell your business.
No.
I'm just asking.
Did you?
And what did you do?
I'm trying to figure out something.
What you trying to figure out, Cash?
Where you get this information from?
Cash.
Why would you ask me did I get expelled from school?
Oh Lord have mercy.
That's not what you do when you have a conversation.
When you have a conversation, hey what do you like?
What do you like to do?
What do you like to go?
Okay, I only got expelled a few times in high school.
A few?
That's it.
More than once?
It was, I got expelled.
Damn.
I got expelled.
You know that's not a class in high school, right? I know, so look. Expulsion. It was really, I got expelled. Damn! I got expelled.
You know that's not a class in high school, right?
I know, so look.
Expulsion.
Not a class!
So, when I got in ninth grade,
Okay.
my boyfriend was in the 12th grade,
and he used to play basketball.
Okay.
So I was that girl.
For real, I've been that girl,
so the girls didn't like me. Okay. And I had I've been that girl. So the girls didn't like
me. Okay. And I had to fight for my life. All my life. And it
went down in there. Like I used to have to just fight and then I
was in a new neighborhood. I left from Dexter where I grew up
at. Moved on Seven Mile and I was in Henry Ford High School.
Okay. And that's where and in my boo, we used to stay next door from me.
Oh, you had a dude next door?
Yep.
And the girls at school, they used to just be hating on me,
because he was real popular and stuff.
And then I became popular so fast, because that was my boo.
Right.
So, everybody was mad, and I used to have to just show them
that I didn't want to be played with
So I got kicked out of all Detroit public schools all of them I did and then they put me in an alternative school
But I still came out on time. I got all my credits and got my diploma everything and you know I still did what I had to do
Say once you graduated have you ever come across any of those women that you got into altercations
with?
Have you ever seen any of them?
I seen one before, and she was a fan.
And I couldn't even be mad at her.
Damn.
Huh?
Yup, yup, yup.
I seen her.
You said, yeah, thank you for being a fan, but I whipped, you remember I whipped you?
Nah, I ain't even saying that. I just be, I be just playing it cool. Like, it's nice to see you, it's nice to see you, everything been alright being a fan, but I would you remember I whipped you nice I just be I'd be just playing and cool like right I see it's nice to see you everything been alright
You know I ain't gonna bring it up because I know she told everybody and I know she lied
She's a she got you she got
Because they probably say hold on you let cashed out a She beat you? She probably say she got with you.
Yeah.
Top line.
Had to look at the camera, bitch, top line.
Unfortunately, your father passed away
at your very young age.
I think you were like one year old.
Yeah, my first birthday.
Yes.
Did that impact, do you think like getting in these fights
or doing some of the things that you did
Happen because you didn't have a father
Hmm, you know what? I don't really blame
My upbringing a person I am like on not having a father like I don't the void was there. Mm-hmm for sure
But I don't know if that made me make the decisions that I made
for sure.
But I don't know if that made me make the decisions that I made.
Was there a dominant male figure in you?
I mean, an uncle or?
Yeah, I had a stepdad that was around for a minute,
but he's not around no more.
But I had that void for sure.
It still do to this day,
because I've never had that real male figure
that make me feel soft and like...
Because like you said, you had to be a second mom.
Exactly.
So you had to protect your siblings.
You had to do all the things that...
So do you feel like you got an opportunity to fully enjoy your childhood?
Because...
No, and then I was on f***ing punishment.
For real though.
Your mom put you on punishment?
Damn! I tell her this to this day, she was wrong for that.
I didn't get to do much.
It was like I was always on punishment for something.
You know what I'm saying?
And then I was always working and doing stuff like that.
So by the time I got old enough, which when I became an adult, I started working.
I had jobs.
So now I'm outside making money.
And on my off time, I had jobs. So now I'm outside making money. And on my
off time, I was just outside. And I think that's why it took me so long to have
kids because I was like, you know what, I'm about to just enjoy myself and baby
did I enjoy myself. And then I became cast off. Forget about it.
Let me ask you. Your mom, you say your mom had six kids by the time she was 21.
No, she had five at 21.
Five at 21.
Yeah, then she had another one when she got older, like 30.
How difficult was that for your mom?
Because you're like, your father died at a young age, you're the oldest, so wow.
And so now, you've been the second mom, but your mom having to work, she got to work,
she got to put a keep a roof over these five heads.
She gotta feed on food on the table,
clothes on their back, school supplies.
Did you ever just sit down and talk to your mom
like, mom, or I said mom, thank you,
because it had to be tough, five kids,
you gotta work all the time?
All the time.
I bought her a Lexus truck.
I pay all her bills.
Damn.
She's on payroll.
She don't want for nothing.
She good.
I just told her when she was complaining
about my siblings, about them just
resenting and having issues because they crazy.
I said, Ma, you did the best you could do.
You got one daughter that's very successful,
so that shows you the first one
Mm-hmm you did what you can do, right?
Don't let that be
Don't let that bother you
You know what I'm saying cuz at the end of the day you did the best you can do and you still have great results
From your litter. Mm-hmm
They crazy
So go book you a trip or something, right?
You can't do that like that's not fair Right people do the best they can do in life
And it's always people that's just not grateful or take it for granted
Yeah, you know so and I don't and I appreciate my mom. That's my that's my first role model. That's my girl right there
She crazy, but I love her to death right, you know, so
That's my girl right there. She crazy, but I love her to death right, you know, so
A lot of times what happens cash and you correct me and you let me know what you think if the child turns out good
It's the parent if the child turns out bad. It's the parent. Well, what at what point time down does the child make a decision?
That's not reflective of the parents because they get all the blame if you're good they get all the credit if you back i mean you know this is like
you made you made Your siblings didn't have anything different than what you had y'all grew up in the exact same environment
The same house ate the same food and i'm assuming you guys went to the same school exactly
You chose one way they chose another way
And then somehow mom gets blamed. Mom gets blamed.
I think it's a mental thing.
A mental illness.
How old were you when you started working?
I'm 16.
You bring, you give money to your family, to your mom?
At first she didn't want me to have no responsibility, then she started trying to make me pay her
$35, and I'm like, all right, girl.
I read you have your babysitter, you work your little seasons, best buy, better made,
potato chip factory.
You did a lot.
Yeah.
I like money.
I like money and at that time that's how I could make money.
I even did here.
I used to do little buns and stuff on a porch and yeah, I like money.
So I always kept a job.
I don't care.
Right. I want some money and I wanna buy new things.
I always like good things.
So this is not a front.
I've always liked nice things.
I always liked new pair of shoes.
I like switching it up.
I like getting my hair done.
I like looking like that girl,
cause I am, you know what I'm saying?
So my mom couldn't do it,
so I had jobs to do that for myself and I did just that
I like the fact that you had a lot of jobs when you're growing up
Because if you have a lot of jobs as a child it lets you know what you don't want to do when you become an adult
You feel me?
You had jobs
Exactly. I'm from rural south, Georgia. Okay Yeah, I got a lot of jobs. Okay.
And then you like, all right, this ain't for me.
No.
No, I did it.
I did so many.
I had, man, I did all that babysitting,
hair, Little Caesars, Best Buy,
selling TVs, selling pizzas.
I mean, did you get a couple of TVs for the crib?
I might.
Statue of Liberty, you're a little weird.
A couple of them, you know what I'm saying?
What was your favorite job?
Of all the jobs that you had growing up as a young adult,
what was your favorite one?
It had to be between Little Caesars and Best Buy.
It had to be, because when I worked
at Better Made Chip Factory,
I was with like a temp service, you know those?
Yeah.
Yeah, so it was like I would be in and out, you know, but, and I used to like the hot
station where the hot chips was at.
But like Little Caesars, it was like, you know, it was like a little family and they
worked fast and them hot and ready to be going fast.
So I don't know, it was just, it was just fun.
It was fun. You ever get tired of eating pizza? Do you eat pizza now? Barely. Yeah I don't know. It was just it was just fun. It was fun.
You ever get tired of eating pizza? Do you eat pizza now?
Barely.
You ate a lot. You ate a lot of them. I ate a lot. A lot of that crazy bread, meat treats. Yeah, I did.
But Best Buy, I met a lot of people there.
Like I got a lot of connections and I learned a lot of technology,
like working there. Like I was like the top salesperson
I always got the bonuses every month right, you know, I was just
getting money
You tried college I
Did it I did Harry Ford Community College. Yeah, and you know what I went from
there I
Went from high school to there first
In the midst of having jobs and stuff like that
I did two years Philip pre-reqs, but I was bullshitting and I went back and I did it right. Mm-hmm. Yeah
Why do you think you'd the first time you did I wasn't focused I was just having fun still in the boys
And the boys the boys is around
Yeah, I wasn't focused.
I was just like, you know, I was just getting free.
Remember I told you I was on punishment
and always was doing all that stuff.
So I finally got able to just be myself.
Be free like, oh, I'm gonna come in when I want to go
when I want to do what I want to do.
I played around.
Yeah, I played around.
You got your car stolen, apartment was damaged by fire.
So you had to end up moving back with mom.
Where you find all this stuff on it?
I know people.
Okay, so that's why you got good interviews
because you dig deep, deep, deep.
You ain't like just doing the normal interviews like,
yeah, so like asking me the same questions.
You just asked me about my first apartment
catching on fire,
cause I was trying to make some ramen noodles. Damn!
Oh my God!
What?
It happened.
I'm not going to lie.
So what was it like?
Because like a lot of times, like when people have,
I don't know if your mom was straight,
but I'm saying, you know,
you say you always on punishment.
So a lot of times when kids are able to leave,
they're like, when they leave,
sometimes they don't look back
and sometimes they do like I ain't coming back here.
Yeah, I didn't wanna go back, I had to.
It just got bad.
And you know what?
And that's the time where I reflect
and just remember all the things I was doing, right?
I was working at Best Buy,
I was letting people come in and swipe.
I was just doing bad shit.
You know what I'm saying?
It was a phase of my life where I was just trying
to figure it out in the wrong way.
And it all came down on me at one time.
Like it poured.
And from that I learned that, you know,
like you just gotta be honest, man.
It's the best way to live life is being honest
because that shit gonna come back regardless. It don't matter. You could be up today. You could be doing, man. It's the best way to live life is being honest because that shit gonna come back regardless. Yeah, it don't
matter. You could be up today. You could be doing all this
shit could be seeming like it's so good. You know, but if you're
not living right and you're doing wrong, it's not going to
work. And that was a prime example, my car in my house
gone. Now I'm back to square A at my mom how I've had to start
from scratch. So from that, that was a lesson.
It was an experience and I learned my lesson
and I would never do that shit again.
You know, it was a certain shit.
I was just doing anything then.
I was just doing shit.
Like, just hustling, just trying to figure out,
trying to get ahead the wrong way.
What did your mom say?
When you call your mom and say,
mom, I gotta come back home, what did your mom say?
She didn't say nothing, she just let me come back. Okay. I wasn't that bad.
Right.
Where she was like girl, I was good.
So she allowed me, she let me back with open arms, but I was ready to go. When I got back I couldn't do that no more.
I couldn't do it no more.
Well, so was this the time that you like you go back to your mom and this is where you became an exotic dancer?
Yeah.
So I'm up here with my best
friend. Shout out to my best friend. She's still my best friend. Okay. Um I'm up here getting my hair done.
So that was like my hangout spot. I go up there and chill with her while she doing here all day and day.
And I'm like man you know all my friends in school that I used to so I used to do like
routine dancing. I was like with a whole little like, they call it a
fresh girl.
Okay.
So we was like the girls when it come to that. But that's a
whole nother story. I told you I've been that girl. So all my
friends from that, they were older. And they start dancing.
So I'm going over to their house,
they in these condos, they got Jeeps,
with little cute dogs.
They got all this designer.
I'm like, I don't wanna do that.
No!
You feel me?
I'm like, what I gotta do?
They like, you can make some money.
Da da da da da da.
And I'm like, man, I'ma try.
But anyway, I go with my best friend, her name, Kendra. And one day we just sitting there and I'm like, BF, I don't anyway, I go with my best friend. My name kidra and
One day we just sitting there and I'm like BF. I don't know. I can't stay with my mom. I need to make some money
She like I'm like all my girls. They making hella money like they dancing. Mm-hmm. She like I don't see why you want to do it
I'm like, I don't know though. You know what I'm saying? Like that's different. Yeah.
She like, I'm gonna go with you your first day.
I'm like, all right, bet.
So we go.
So she come and do my hair and makeup in the basement.
Okay.
Yeah, this is my girl right here.
Me and my best friend, we met in church too, by the way.
Damn.
Yeah, we met at church.
Oh, that's another thing, a part of my childhood.
I was in church every Sunday and Wednesday.
Every, sometimes Friday for Bible study.
But that's how we met in church.
So this is my heart right here.
So she like, come on, I'ma go with you.
She like, the first day I'ma go with you.
I'ma do your hair, your makeup in the basement.
So we go down there, I walk down there.
Cause they say, yeah, off-rib.
You know what I'm saying? Cause I look-ramp. You know what I'm saying?
Cause I look decent.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay, you got a nice little body.
I'm straight, I'm straight.
Yeah, you first young.
I'm straight.
Hey yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm talking about baby, baby smooth.
They're the babies.
I'm straight.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I see you, I see you.
You straight, straight, straight.
She straight.
I'm straight.
So I go and we go downstairs and I'm like,
when we walk down there, all the girls just looking like,
fuck.
Who this new?
Who this new, bitch?
Y'all ain't know I'm about to turn this up.
You know what I'm saying?
So me and my bestie, we in the corner, we talking.
She doing my makeup.
She like, I seen a couple people that I do their hair
and hand her what they do.
I'm going to go and see them.
I'm like, all right, bet. She like, all right, go ahead. see him like all right bet She's like all right go ahead get your clothes on as I'm gonna
She's like your clothes on come up here, and I'm gonna show you who I got the money. I'm like big I
Walk up the motherfuckers there's I'm shit Brits. I'm neck. Well. I got on like a one-piece, but my butt out. Yeah
I
Mean getting a dress for your man is one thing getting a undressed for a stranger is something entirely different I would assume.
It's different.
And then at that age, you won't even get dressed for men.
You know what I'm saying?
We young.
We ain't even know our second year.
It is what it is.
Feel me?
So I goes upstairs.
I'm shit bricks.
So as I'm walking through the crowd,
it's like people that I know from school,
that my bestie up here with her people,
she stayed in there with me the whole night. She up here with her people, she stayed in there with me the whole night.
She up there with her people, she telling me,
like, they got some money, they got some money.
And I knew all her clients,
because I used to be up there all the time.
So as I'm walking through,
I'm making me a couple dollars, right?
And then nobody really touched me like that.
So I'm like, okay, that's cool, you know?
I can get down with it.
I can get down with it, but it was like dark in there,
so I wasn't really like feeling like I was just revealed.
I kept, every time they call my name on a stage,
you never seen me, because I was scared to go up there.
I was scared.
I'm gonna tell the truth.
I was scared.
Go get that money.
I know, but no.
So that night I made like $700.
The first up the ramp?
I made $700.
Oh yeah.
So I know you went back.
I feel like I'm Rich's dog shit right now.
You know what I'm saying?
So bam, I go home, my sister, my Shani,
well, probably because she was too little,
but Shani and Sierra, they helping me count my ones.
We counting the ones.
They like, that's a lot of money.
You know, my sister's helping me.
Because I'm sharing rooms with my sisters.
I had to move back with my mom.
Right.
I think I'm like 21 at the time.
So we caught the money.
It was $781.
Wow.
I'm like, shit, that's one check for two weeks.
And one day, I'm trapping.
I'm getting it.
I want all this money, you feel me?
I'm in here.
I'm never leaving.
I never want to go home.
You feel me? But then it became days where it was like $300. I'm in here. I'm never leaving. I never want to go home.
But then it became days where it was like 300.
But then it became days where it's like 7,000.
What?
I made $26,000 in one night and $13,000 at the dough.
Lord.
On the biggest night.
So picture, $26,000 in all singles,
and then the dough still did $26,000 in all singles and then the dough still
did $13,000. I'm rich. You can't tell me nothing.
Shit, I'm rich. What?
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