Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Lil Yachty Part 1

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

In this episode of Club Shay Shay, Lil Yachty opens up about his journey from Atlanta to becoming a multi-faceted creative force in hip-hop. The Grammy-nominated rapper shares intimate details about his upbringing in Atlanta, how his mother inspired his signature red braids, and his early experiences working at McDonald's and Six Flags before pursuing his music dreams in New York. Yachty responds to accusations of being a colorist and an industry plant, while sharing candid stories about signing with Quality Control and spending $1.3 million in a week. He discusses spending $100K on veneers and $1M on dental implants, and opens up about his past as a scammer and experiences with bitcoin. The conversation delves into his relationships with industry giants, including memorable encounters with ASAP Rocky and Tyler, the Creator. The Atlanta native reflects on his modeling work for Yeezy with Kanye West, shares his thoughts on marriage, and discusses the innovation of icons like Drake, Kanye West, and Jay-Z. He offers perspective on the evolution of hip-hop, comparing old school and new school rap.   #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Preacher stop it man. Of course. Hmm On this snowy day, oh, yeah, man, I'm gonna so she right quick Celebrate the new year with a bottle of Bala shade by the 48. Let's get right into it. Thank you for pulling up to the club today Cut your hair. Yeah, I did. Bro, I mean, cause a lot of people, a lot of things are tied to their hair. You see when people go to different hairstyles, they're in a different phase of their life

and they want to try something new. What do you signify and what are you saying about cutting your hair? Truth be told, it was just damaged. My head was damaged. I kept bleaching it, coloring it. And so it was just, it was real damaged. Then I got tired of, I had a box.

So I ain't had a side. So I was like, man, I wanna grow my whole hair. And to be honest, I've been growing my hair since I was in like 10th, 11th grade, you know? So like almost 14 years ago. So I was like, I just cut it off. Trying to do something different? Yeah, like, I mean, I think for so long,

I was so like embedded into my hair and it was like I could never not have hair I could never I could never and I think I just woke up one day and was like when you color it yeah what is the color because you like you say you used to bleach your hair you You had it red. You had a lot of different colors. So what did your hair mean to Lil Yachty? I mean, to be honest, man, so I had braids in high school. They were black. And my mom, I got to the age where I was able to work.

And my mom was like, you need to get a job. And she wanted me to get a job at McDonald's at 15. And my mom is a business woman, real professional. Like she don't play. So my mom was like, I had these long's at 15. And my mom is a business woman, real professional. She don't play. So my mom was like, I had these long black braids. She was like, you can't go in there with those long braids. You need to look professional. You need to cut your hair.

I had an interview at McDonald's. Look professional even at McDonald's. Exactly, right? And I had never worked before. So I'm assuming my mama knows. She told me she got a good job. So I'm like, I really didn't't want to because my hair is what separated me from people but I was like alright my mama knows she talking about I cut my hair.

Did the interview got the job the first day and everyone had crazy hair. I'm talking about they had man they had all kind of colors and braids. And so I came home and I was so upset. I was like, Ma, you made me cut my hair. And everybody got hair. You know, it's McDonald's. And she felt bad. And so one day we were driving. She was taking me to work.

And she was like, why don't you do something to him? I'm like, what? And she's like, color it red. And I think him? I'm like, what? And she's like, color it red. And I think she don't think I was going to actually do it. Because at the time, you understand, it's like 2013. It wasn't a thing. The most that there was in African-American culture for men was a blonde patch.

Because Wiz Khalifa did the blonde patch with the black. But color hair wasn't a thing for black men. It wasn't like cool or trendy or, or just prominent. So like when I did it, she didn't think I was gonna do it. But when I did it, it was like, I don't know, I just kept it all the way. And then it became a point where I knew that my hair was like my signature. And my hair was what was going to set you apart? Yes, and catch people's attention. So I'll never forget when I went to college,

I went to Alabama State. And this was like 2015, and still colorful hair for black men wasn't a thing yet. So I had red hair and I had braids and I had beads. And I'm in Alabama. So they looking at you like Red hair braids beads in Alabama and I dress different and you dress different so they was looking at you like Hmm what he own But but I have this thing in my head I was like like, man, this is so temporary, this whole experience,

this is a bigger picture for me, it's a bigger... So like, because I could always just cut my hair and blend it in and had a great college experience, but I was like, nah. Because see, the thing was is that on the weekends I would go home, right? Or my dad worked for Delta, so I would go anywhere. Right. Right. Or my dad worked for Delta. So like I would go anywhere. Right. No, like I'd be in Alabama Monday through Friday. And after class, I'd be in LA for the weekend with zero dollars in my pocket. But I flew for free. So I would get on a plane and then like, go hang out with ASAP Rocky or like something like I was like, I was always always find something to do something to get away. So like, I believed in like my look my image and I just always thought I was cool

Right, like I've always had confidence since like high school I was voted most likely to become famous in high school like because I just always had a confidence level and just felt like man I'm that You feel me right to this day? I'm that ****, you feel me? Right. To this day. So that's the whole hair thing. And for the longest, I always felt like, man, I needed my hair.

I used to feel that way for a long time. It's so crazy in the beginning of my career when I first started in like 2016, when I would go out, I used to think, and at the beginning it was this way, I used to think people only knew me by my hair. Like if I would step out and I had my red braids showing, people would be like, oh, hello, y'all. And I used to feel like Batman. If I cover my hair, I could just go out.

And for a long time I could. No one really knew my face. They just knew my hair until, I mean, a decade later, obviously, hair, no hair. Shit, people see my eyes sometimes and be like, I know who that is. You mentioned your mom has a great job. Your dad worked for Delta.

What type of kid were you? Did you get in trouble? Were you a class clown? Or did you always kind of know what you wanted to do? I was definitely a class clown. I got in trouble sometimes. I mean, my mother got into it a lot because my mom was really strict.

Man, it's so interesting because we have such a beautiful relationship now. And I realized that it just had to do with, she just wanted me to be great. So I used to think she was like evil, but she just wanted me to be great. And my mother's from a different time period than me as to where like, her parents worked in steel mills, you know,

and they in steel college, she's from Gary, Indiana. So like, all she knew was degree, career. So when I'm like, I'm gonna be rich off rap. And I'm from like, a little suburban area outside Atlanta, where like no one was famous. It was low to middle income. It was just regular. So she's like, you got a one in a million percent chance. You know what I'm saying? But my father is also, he's a photographer. So I just grew up around music my whole life.

And I was outside. I was just outside doing teenage bad I mean you do bad you just being young you know saying you so how was your dad because normally the dad is the disciplinary and the mom is a little bit more lenient so my parents the voice that ate my mom was the mean one my dad is the art one okay yeah my dad he, you know, my dad got got a curl mustache and like gold teeth. He's cool. So like my dad probably dead ass wouldn't kill a spider. You know what I'm saying? Like my dad wasn't he wasn't he just wasn't like that. For real. Did your mom ever say

I don't know your father's name, but Charlie, you need to get on that boy. You see him out there. Yeah, yeah. One time my dad, one time I shoot for it. I know for a fact my mom was up to this. I guess me and my momma got into it. My dad came over and like trying to like so-called discipline me, like punch me in the chest. And I'll never forget looking like I really beat your ass But I love my dad you know Sam but uh, I mean I don't know same as anyhow So you are I know I don't know too many black kids that just grew up perfect, right? Oh, because you trying to figure yourself out. You know I'm saying like you trying to figure out your way in life I think in the beginning of my high school experiences,

I was like trying to do what my friends did. You know, like I was trying out for football and basketball and I realized I wasn't athletic at all. How was that football experience? Oh man, I was number like 66. They gave you that number or you chose that number? I didn't get to choose enough. Oh yeah, you pretty bad, didn't you? Yeah, and at the time I weighed like 130 pounds. Okay. So I had a lineman number and I was 130 pounds. Oh yeah, yeah, you wasn't

getting... I kept the bench warm though. One time, man it's so crazy, I got in probably like two times the whole season right before I quit and one time I got in on the punt return team and I was in like that first row. Usually balls, some balls shouldn't come this way at all. The ball should go past me. I guess it was a bad kick and somehow the ball came my way. You got it. And I'm like, this is my time to show you. Oh yeah, go get it, Yachty. Go Yachty, Yachty.

As soon as I picked the ball up. Ball. Oh man. Before I could pick the ball up and look up, I was a pancake on that field. And that's when I realized, oh, I don't like getting hit. I don't ever want to get hit like this. I was a pancake on that field. And that's when I realized, oh, I don't like getting hit. I don't ever want to get hit like this.

So I think I resigned after that game, actually. So you really was only playing sports because your friends played or you really wanted to try? All of my best friends are super athletic. OK. To this day, not all of them, but a good amount of them, they play. So I just wanted to, like like I've always been a a

Brother guy, you know like my brother my big brother We wasn't really in my life and so like I always wanted brothers right you know saying like So I'm so adamant on friendship and like that so like sticking together brother shit. That's what you own shit I'm on it. I'm on this we own this this we own you don't like him. I don't like him. You know saying like that's that's the type of guy always was you know saying Until I got a little older. I'm still like that, but I got a little older started realizing Start thinking for yourself. I can't do that then I joined the yearbook staff and Fucking I started doing that. I was the MC for the school

So I did the pep rallies all the school things and I kind of like hyped up the school and then that's that I was the MC for the school so I did the pep rallies all the school things and I kind of like hyped up the school and then that's when I was like I always wanted to do music because I've been around it my entire life my father he shot everybody you know so uh but doing those pep rallies they helped me like realize like I ain't scared of no crowd and I know how to turn them up. So yeah. Did you play any other sports other than football? Hell no. Or you attempt any other sports other than football? No, football was enough. Seriously. And like,

and practices the whole like y'all both lay on the ground and jump up and got to run towards each other. I hated that too. Oh you ain't like the Oklahoma huh? I want to be in a different state, different city. I'm putting in Oklahoma. That's where God, that shit, bro, that shit was not comfortable. Right. I'm a comfortable guy. And that's not, that's not the physical contact I'm into. Okay. Yeah. You mentioned you worked at McDonald's, you had a job at Six Flags and you altered clothes for money Yeah, let me let me start with the altering of clothes. Did you take home ec? You saw your mom? You saw your grandma. How did you come into my mother taught me how to sell? Okay, because

At the time see this so crazy how fashion is at the time big pants was in style. Everybody wore big clothes. Yes, right This is right. This is like right after like the era of like you're a jerk and stuff. So skinny stuff started to come in and Adidas used to have track pants. They used to have a classic track pants or the Adidas track pants before they made soccer pants. Yeah. They were you know, loose original Adidas track pants. Yeah. Loose. But I was in skinny clothes. I was like, I want my Adidas pants to be skinny. Right.

So my mom used to do them for me. And I used to ask her so many times. She taught me how to sew so I could have... I was the only person at school with like skinny jogger sweats because there wasn't a such thing yet. Right. And then it became so trendy at my school that everyone would be like, how'd you do that?

And I'd be like, I made them. So I started making money off of altering, excuse me, people's clothes, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, $10, $15, $20 to get, make everybody's pants skinny. So I like them to come home with a book bag full of pants. Right. Sew everybody's pants up, make them all skinny,

bring them back to school, yeah. And that's how I paid for clothes. That's how I bought clothes. So you kind of always been, had a hustler's mentality. I always liked things. You can't get things off of being funny. What's some things you can't be funny? You like, I ain't gonna be no comedian.

Well, I mean, shout out to comedians, but like, no. You know what I'm saying? Like, I was like,ians, but like, no. You know what I'm saying? Like, I was like, I was so young, bro, and I was like, man, I got like, I like clothes. I always loved clothes. So I was like, man, my mama didn't buy me. And high school, once I got to a certain age, my mom was like, you're kind of like, you're older.

And my mom lost her job when I got in high school. So she wasn't working. Money was tight. Yeah so like I had to fend for myself and I wanted to go out on the weekends I wanted to go to the games I want to go to the movies and so I had to make it happen. You mentioned early on that your mom going to get your haircut to go work at McDonald's so what were you a cashier you the cook? Yeah I was, I was on the grill. Okay, okay. They used to let the prettier,

like the women be on the cashier. Okay. Well, there's McDonald's, ain't nobody really. That pretty hit McDonald's, no offense, but like, yeah. That job was cool though, they was mean as hell. You know, when people hate their job, they be a little bit Timid why you work, you know, and I get that all the time you added to your place You don't like just don't come back because it's the only thing you can get maybe possibly potentially

And you got to pay your bills. You know, I'm saying a lot of people don't like people. I think people be like People I think a lot of people settle they do in life. Yes. Um, and so I just don't work with a lot of people settle. They do. In life. Yes. And so. Not just don't work, where there a lot of things. Relationships. Man, relationships, baby, parents. Uh, I think, I think people just settle, you know? Like you take what you can get because it's comfortable. Yes. And it's there.

And I don't know, it's so funny, I'm so not that way. I will not settle for nothing. And I never would know, it's so funny, I'm so not that way. I would not settle for nothing. And I never would settle, ever. Cause life is so short. You know what I'm saying? You live and then you die. So I not do it how you wanna do it. You feel me?

Whether you rich or barely getting to buy your means, you still entitled to your life. Did any of these jobs overlap? You mentioned you had the job at McDonald's. You were doing some alterations for kids at school and you worked at Six Flags. So did any of this overlap? Hell no. I worked at McDonald's at 15 and then I worked at Six Flags at 16.

But when I worked at Six Flags I worked during the Fright Fest. So it was only one month. It was like October. I worked in a haunted house, I worked during the Fright Fest. So it was only one month. It was like October. I worked in a haunted house. It's like a ghost. I would pop out the locker room. Yeah. I popped out the locker.

That was cool, though. Just working wasn't really for me. You know? Because I had goals, man. I had goals. I had dreams. I was like, same with school. Right.

I was in college. I had goals, man. I had goals. I had dreams. I was like, same with school. Like I was in college, like just, I had goals. I used to fear cubicles. Like I feared, I was like, oh man, I can't be in a cubicle with a neighbor named Joe. A Joe. I can't be next to a Joe. No offense to Joes around the world. I personally just, I like freedom. Financial freedom. You like independence. You like going and coming. You like moving at your own pace.

Yeah, I like to wake up when I want to wake up, go to sleep when I want to go to sleep, I want to eat what I want to eat, I want to look how I want to look. You know what I'm saying? don't want to look how I want to look you know I'm saying you know but I like what I like I don't like no I do not like no although although there's no life without no you're gonna get no sometimes but I really referred to not hear it you mentioned working at McDonald's but you know you get good food at McDonald's you know you get burgers but I hear you know you get good food at McDonald's, you know, you get burgers, but I hear you know, you didn't eat meat You never ate, you never, no. So what'd you eat McNuggets or? Paws Um

No meat eating over here You didn't? Yeah I don't do that. I like chicken. Okay. Yeah, so I eat chicken. I don't eat fish either. Okay, no fish. Okay, so you didn't eat fish filet? Yeah, I don't eat fish. Do they have chicken sandwiches back there? Yeah. So you didn't eat fish filet. Did they have chicken sandwiches back then? Yeah, they had chicken.

Yeah, they had chicken and chicken nuggets. Okay. Fries? I didn't even eat fries at the time. I eat fries now. But back then I didn't eat fries. But yeah, my diet is. Man, all that free food they got there,

you ain't eating nothing but. I ate it though. I ate a meat chicken every single day. Okay. And God damn, man, I got tired, man. I eat that shit every day day bro. It was crazy. You go to college. Yeah. Or 10 Alabama State. What made you, if you kind of knew early on, I'm listening to you talking. We're only like 10, 15 minutes into this conversation. And I get the

impression that you kind of knew school wasn't for you. Yeah. But you went anyway. Was that for your mom? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. It was for my mom, but also it was like, when I graduated high school, the day after I graduated, I told my mother I'm moving to New York, and I'm pursuing my rap dreams. And she cried. She was crying, and she was on the couch, and she was crying, and I forget it.

So yeah, all right, I'm out. And I packed her bag, and I flew to New York. I had like $20 in my pocket and an EBT card. And my man's let me sleep on his couch in Harlem. And I did that for like four months until like I was just so broke. And so I was like, I remind you when I tried school out, I think I enrolled in August.

I dropped out by November and I was rich. Damn, that ain't even my quarter, y'all. I was rich by March. Ah! So, so it worked out. But you mentioned that you were depressed in college. Oh man, it was the darkest. Was that darker than, I'm trying to think.

It was probably the darkest time. Yeah, and still the darkest time I've been through. Yeah, yeah. What was so depressing about college? Was it a situation that you know you didn't belong, you didn't want to be there, you was doing this for your mom because now I want to do this

but I've got to take a transition and do this in the meantime? What was so depressing about it? Because women, women you never gonna be around that man right there You'll be hey girl. That's true And it's so crazy that that was why I was excited to go But I was such as I looked so different than everyone at the time They I was truly like an outcast. Okay, and I like with two friends there and I just felt like I didn't belong.

Had I been at Georgia State or FIT in New York or like a school where it's just more diverse and like. Yeah, Alabama is really. It's like, you know what I'm saying? So like, I think a part was that I felt like such a standoffish character. I really wanted to do music. I had such strong belief in myself and it was hard to do from Alabama.

Yeah, you know, I had friends that were like. On social media, kind of bubbling and like doing a thing, you know, I'm saying so it's like, man, I'm seeing my homies kind of pop and do they thing I'm in school this shit sucks I was broke in Alabama and Alabama and no cars like walking on dirt roads I enjoyed it I didn't even like it just wasn't my I wasn't even really what about the party Johnny you know they call, you know the party be popping. Man, it's so crazy.

I went to one party in college and I hated it, bro. Damn, you sound like me. I was in a corner. I was sitting in the corner like, man. Because I just thought about, bro, before I went to college, it was like, our neighborhood had a lot of kids in it. You had the kids that were older that graduated, went to high school, and they were graduating or dropping out,

and they were coming right back to the house. So you're at home, and you got debt. Or a sheet of paper, and you still ain't got no job. It's like, damn, you got debt and you still here? I can't, and me and my mom got into it. I was like, bro, I can't go back there. Right. With debt, on top of that.

Right. Being there with no debt is already stressful. Being around my house with debt. Damn, that's crazy. I'm never making out this place. You feel me? So I was like, man, I have to give this a shot. I would have never forgave myself if I didn't give myself a chance. So you leave Alabama, you come back home temporarily and then go to New York shortly after that? No, New York was before. So you went to New York before. So once you went to college and came back, you stayed in Atlanta? Yeah, I told my mother, I was like, Mom, I need an ultimatum.

I need you to give me a year off. Because I started school, the way my birthday was set up, I was just young, I graduated at 17. So I was younger than everyone. So I said, Mom, just give me a year. If things don't work out, I'll go back and I'll be 18. I'll be the same age as everyone else and freshmen. So just give me a year.

And I did it in less than half a year. But yeah, it's crazy. So what did your dad say? What was your dad, I mean? My dad wasn't against it. You know what I'm saying? My dad didn't, he didn't go to school. So, I mean.

You're like, I'll follow your path. Well, nah, I wasn't doing that either. Nah, because I wanted to be great. Okay. Not that my dad wasn't great. My father's a king. But he chose a different path than what you wanted to go. You wanted to make, you wanted to be famous.

You wanted to make lots of money. You wanted to be rich. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I wanted to do something bigger than me, bigger than what I thought I could do, you know, bigger than what anyone around me thought that we could do and just make it out. How did going to New York help Yachty's music career? Going to New York helped me in several ways because of the people that I met along the way and just based on like getting out of my mother's house, you know, like I was always so independent so I was always like doing me, you know, so being that far away from home, my mom had a curfew

my mom didn't play, you know what I'm saying, So she used to give me a curfew when she used to... I just needed to spread my rings, you know? And it was so crazy, my whole belief in the beginning, because I don't know, like I could rap, but I didn't think I was like the best rapper. But my whole belief, I was banking on my appearance. Like I was literally just banking on the way I looked, the way I dressed. I was like, banking on the way I looked, the way I dressed.

I was like I'm cool. I know I'm cool. That's what was going to set you apart. Yeah I feel like rap is like more than half is you, your appearance, your persona you know and like stars I made from the embodiment of a spirit that is unusual in the common ground of people, you know, that's why people treat celebrities a certain way because you can't fathom that that, whether it's like a voice that makes you cry, makes you think about other things or a person on screen that just like was made you feel them. You almost you just feel like that. But we are regular people. But it's the character and it's the image and the energy which makes stars, you know, like, because you got people who make hits, who love that song, who made that song. You don't know who made it because they don't have the look or the image or the embodiment.

So it's all about your persona and how you carry yourself. And the imagery, the imagery is so important in entertainment, you know, the imagery is so important in entertainment. You know, the imagery of a person because it's how we remember people, you know. We remember you by brown alcohol and smoking, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, and you know, getting women and tight clothes. You know what I'm saying? But I'm for...

Look at that, y'all. You see how your boy showed up today? You look a little elusive today. Look at your boy showed up. Youall. You see how your boy showed up today? You look elusive today. Look at your boy showed up. You look elusive today. You look elusive today. But I just even- you think about the biggest people they have, characters to them, and like you can call out things about celebrities or stars and it's just based on how we are as a person which separates us from the next rapper or the next athlete or the next

commentator or the next actor actress anything you know I'm saying so yeah you know oh that's just that's just what it is hey it's Bobby Bones join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast lots to say the Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with the Stars. So where else are you gonna find a show

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you get your podcasts. You know? Demers, the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, you, you're in New York and you're clearly, you were critical of New York fashion because you like New York is behind Atlanta. Now you know, that's not going to be well received because New York's supposed to be. You're talking about when I said the New York fashion thing. It was so crazy that that was taken out of context. Okay. Okay.

What I said was I was talking to Cash Cob thing? It was so crazy that that was taken out of context. Okay, okay. What I said was I was talking to Cash Cobain and I was telling him that his friends, his friend group, his type, like his guys can't dress. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I was saying like, I love New York dearly. You know what I'm saying? Like my kid was not anymore, but she was there.

That was like, I spent all my time in New York. And I still spend time in New York. I'm in New York damn near every other week, you know what I'm saying? And I'm outside. So like, I didn't mean it like New York people can't dress. New York is the capital of fashion. I was speaking on a specific demographic, right?

And then I went on to say like, Atlanta people dress better. And I was really honestly just talking talking about my self for real You know I'm saying like I ain't you know But I'll add I got some some fly people and we got a floss thousand, but I was really speaking on myself It's so crazy people come to me every day about this why I see things about the whole New York can't dress I I didn't say that and I and I definitely wasn't pertaining to all of all New Yorkers. He was talking about it. I embody fashions of New York, you know, not today,

but like usually I'm in some Tims and some big pants, right? Or some jean shorts. So I think people took it out of context. I really don't care though. Like, I mean, it is what it is. But that's not what I said. I was really talking about Cassius Homeboys and the way they dress. And like, that crowd of ****. But it is what it is. Because that's what they say. They's like, you keep on talking about New York,

but you dress like a New Yorker. Yeah, I do. You dress like you're East Coast teams. You mentioned it. I love the history of New York fashion, especially in hip hop. I think Dipset was sick. I think Rocky is one of the best dressed. I think a lot of people from New York,

I think it's great fashion, Dapper Dan. I mean, I could go on. You down with the shorts and the Tims? You went down like that? I think that, man, I like to say that I brought it back. I do, I will say that. Everyone do that shit now. Because Jada, Jada big on the shorts and the Tim.

Yeah, yeah. I'm talking about a couple years ago. I had the jeans shorts and people used to clown me. People was clowning me for jeans, shorts and Tim's. They like was on my ass and I was such a prominent thing. They came back because you know, back in like the nineties and 2000s, everybody Tim, I mean Tim's in every color, from the brown to the black to the red to the green to the blue,

everybody had a Tim in every color and they kind of went away, but they're making a comeback now. It came back, for sure. So you back rocking them again? I never stopped, I was I'm I don't know. That's probably what messed up my hips. Wearing them damn heavy ass Tim's. Well that's possible. It's probably could also be playing football. You know what? While you're bull driving that might be it. I think it might be 1% to Tim and 99% of players.

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So you're gonna take $1,000, okay, you gotta put something together. And do whatever you, and who can make the best outfit with $1,000 in X amount of time. We never did it, but it would have been fun. Because after that whole ordeal, I got on the phone with like all of my New York friends,

you know, and just people that I respected from New York from now talking to Rocky and I talked to Osiris and I talked to Barry and I talked to Nast and Jim Jones and and because I was like, I want to make sure niggas don't really think that's what I said, like these people I'll be around for real, for real, you know? And I respect. And so I had to make sure that that wasn't the mom, but they, none of them took it that way. Right. You know? Um, just people who, it's so crazy the way internet is, bro. People you take,

like I'm sure what happened with this thing, a clip of something would get, absolutely. And that's all they want. No one will go watch it. No, no, no, no. And it will get taken and turned into a whole different ordeal yes it happens all the time yeah absolutely that's just the whole video no i just saw the clip yeah sometimes enemies to the clitoris just read the headline yeah yeah it's crazy they read the thumbnail sometimes people just take a picture and put the words over the picture it's crazy crazy, bro. This is the world we in. How did you get the Yeezy, the modeling contract with Yeezy? Was it a casting call? Did you have the hookup?

Yeah. I had a friend. Okay. And he worked with Kanye West. Okay. And it's so crazy, this is when I was living in New York. And man, I was so broke. I hadn't known him when he knew nothing.

And he was just like, come, boss. And I pulled up, yeah. And he just kind of had the power to put me in it. It's so crazy, because if you watch that thing, they had a curtain over us before the show started. And I was in the back. I was on the last row in the back behind all the people, like I'm talking about like,

I was still happy to be there, but I was like, nothing's gonna come from this. Yeah, yeah, you too, baby. And the last second, you know, him and like, they took me and they put me right in the front. Right before the curtain pulled off, they put me in the front row. And I like to say that that really did help my career.

It just put a lot of eyes on me, you know, it kind of made it a thing like man. Who was this kid? Who is this and So that was cool, yeah You know what you mentioned? Uh, and you've mentioned ASAP by three or four times. How did you and ASAP become friends? same person that put me in the Kanye thing when I was in high school. They used to call me when I was in school on FaceTime.

I remember one time I was like, I just got out of school, it was like an evening after school or something like that. And him and Tyler, the creator, and all these guys called me and I was around all my high school friends and I was like what the f**k you know I'm saying like and uh but it was just I had a homie that was like kind of telling him like kind of just brought me around you know and um and I did my own thing though you know I always tell people like it's cool to like have a handout or have somebody in the industry,

but people will always pay more attention and respect you more when they find out about you on their own. You know, when their eyes come across you on their own versus someone like, yo, check out such and such. Like if they just doing it, you making noise. If you just outside and you making noise,

people will pay more attention and respect it more, you know, because people respect when they find something they self and think it's cool, you know, versus like, I mean I think you still get to respect when, you know, if somebody of good taste refers you, but when people come across you on your own, man, it's like, it's just a different energy. So that's why I was like, man, make noise, make noise, it's easy to make noise. The way that the internet is connecting, that was so easy to make noise. Just be original, authentic, and take a shot.

Take a shot and separate yourself, you know? In that show, was that your first time ever meeting Kanye? Seeing Kanye, did you get an opportunity to interact with him? No, I didn't. That was the first time I saw him. I don't even think I saw him. Oh, I saw him right before we went out. He came and checked all our outfits right before I ran out,

but we went out. But yeah, I didn't say nothing to him at all. I didn't speak to Kanye for like a couple months after that till he invited me to his studio. He wanted to sign me actually. Damn, you're like, like oh all of a sudden you supposed to be you in the fashion show yeah you at the back they pull you to the front I mean that thing hey you moving at warp speed now you go from

being at the back to the front to potentially be inside. I mean from just being in college like yeah I think I had but it wasn't it wasn't overnight but it felt like it you know. A lifetime sometimes feel overnight overnight yeah yeah I'm about to be 30 now bro Wow you only got so many summers left all y'all on the way out the door I didn't ever change something my grandma used to say. What? The tree that's leaning the furthest don't always fall first. That was so country. Yeah it is.

But hey, when you driving your car, you go think about it. Yeah. Damn that was some country shit. The tree leaning the furthest don't always fall first. Yeah. So you thinking I'm already out the door. Yeah.

Hey, I thought it's possible, but I tell you what, I tell you what, that brown liquor is gonna keep leaning that tree, you know what I'm saying? But it shouts out. But you say, I only got one life. Amen and I respect that, I swear but we only got, see that's the thing, right? It's like, it's weird you gotta find this balance. You wanna find this healthy balance between living a good life and responsible and being healthy and taking care of yourself. And understanding that you only get to do this once.

And it's a tough balance. Once is enough. Absolutely, but if you get so caught up in, oh, I gotta be healthy, oh, I don't need to go need to go out all you know if I go out and have a good time I could get hurt or something could happen to me or you're like You damn near go your whole life. You'll be 90 and be like damn. I didn't do nothing. Yeah, you can't live with a bubble Fearful. Yeah, you gotta you gotta enjoy yourself. You gotta put yourself out there. You got a really Experience like that's all when I always think about marriage,

I always think, I'm going off topic, my bad. But like, when I think about marriage, I always think about, whenever I do finally set down and like I'm ready to settle down, I'll have lived that life. I won't have any curious bond in my body about doing anything like with some type of women or with multiple women or whatever, because I've lived that life and that life

is past me, is behind me. When I find someone I do respect and want to settle down with, I won't have any... Like I respect, but I'd be very curious on people who meet in high school and that's the only person you have been with, that's the only person you ever did anything with. I respect it, but it strikes curiosity in me because I feel like, does the human brain or does the human emotions not wander? And I think it does a lot of times, but maybe just the security and that person. You gotta be able to suppress it and keep that under control.

Yeah, yeah. I'm not there. You know? I'm not there. You know, I'm not there. And I, but I want to be there. Right. I do, my grandparents been together like 50 some years and I asked them at Thanksgiving, last Thanksgiving,

I said, how do y'all do it? And they both said space, you know? They give each other space to have their own time and they live their own lives, you know? They, you know, do their things, you know? Whether it's like his hobbies is his hobbies and her friends are her friends and they live life. Yeah, and a lot of times, they get older,

they live in the same house but they don't sleep in the same bed. They really just like pals. Yeah. Roommates. I fuck with it. They don't raise the family. They got the kids. They got the grandkids. It's all about us. Yeah. You just roommates. And if it works for them, it works. Absolutely. Uh I think that yeah. Well, let me ask you this. How do you go from modeling in a Yeezy show

to making music with Kanye? How the hell did that happen? Man, you got a funny voice. I thought I had a funny voice, but you got a funny voice. I get excited that the pitch go way up. I saw an animated character when you say that. But how did it happen? How does anything happen in life? Chance, I guess, and preparation, meeting opportunity. Yeah. And I guess when you want something and you just go for it. I think everything that's happened in my life, I've wanted and I've told myself or like God,

like, hey, I wanna do this. I wanna be at this, I wanna be in this place in life. I wanna be here. I wanna live like this. I wanna look better physically. I want to, whatever, I mean, whatever it was. I set that goal out. I didn't just like, lack the days of go through life.

Like, yeah, like I'll do it one day. I said, no, I need to do that. I want to do this. And I guess it kind of helped me clear a pathway, you know? Especially early on, I've done clear a pathway, you know, especially early on, I've done so much now, you know, again, like I always say. You're a young age, you say you're about to be 30 and you've been having, you've been on this journey

since you were 16, 17. Yeah, 17 is when I really truly started. I'm 27, I'm about to be 28. So like it just happened so fast, but I did so much at a young age. And I feel like I'm not even at my, I'm not even close to my peak. Like I feel like I got another like 20 years of just doing it, you know? So yeah.

What about this, there was a social media comedian that used your song in one of his skits. Calion Fox was his name. And you felt that really like... Oh, it jump started everything. Yeah, it was like, it was just the first viral moment involving me. And it took it just took the song through the roof. But again, if that song was connected to some like random guy who just like just made a record, it would have just been that song was connected to some random guy who just made a record, it would have

just been that song. But it was you with the red hair. With the image, with the other songs with it. I continuously hit that pot. I just put that out and I banked off that. I continuously hit that pot. And tried and know what I'm saying? Like, and tried it and everything didn't work. But like I tried it even to this day. It don't work. You know, like I don't, you got to be okay with that failure happens. Right.

But if you continuously do the same thing that you succeeded at, eventually people will get tired of it. And eventually you will get thrown to the curb because people grow in life Right. No one is the same for five years. Yeah, three or one year you change right? Like so he already had to keep reinventing himself. Well, I just it's just for one. I liked so many things So like I didn't even want to do the same thing But you just got to think about it in a standpoint from like you heard a great song, right? Yeah, the song is a hit record. Yeah, and at the time when you had that song you was dating this chick

You loved she loved it. Y'all loved it. Y'all rolling together. Y'all heard if y'all's out eating y'all heard it Y'all this is our jam. We vibing with the club. This is our record you break up with her Band don't play that ish. I don't want to hear that You got a new girlfriend. Yeah, I don't want to hear that record anymore or like or What the song came out and man when that song came out man you was gang banging right and you was just like you love scraping the pot man you was making crack from 2am to 5am. You just was you crack was your thing. You had crack and then you sold it. Then you met Jesus right right? Right. Jesus is coming. So you ain't

no pot scraping no more. You don't want to do that no more, right? So now you're like, ah man, this remind me of that time and like, or even with clothes, like man, when this song came out, man, we dressed like this. And so you just got to keep going. That's why Kanye West is such a visionary, you know, that's why Drake is such a visionary, Tyler the Creator is such a visionary. That's why Drake is such a visionary. Tyler the Creator, such a visionary. They have always reinvented the wheel. Jay-Z, you know, like these guys are, like they're with the current times, you know?

And that's why they'll always be respected and looked at in such a highlight. Prior to that comedian using that song in a skit, did you know who he was? Nope, no. And I think I only met him one time, but I've always showed love to him. Right. Socially, you know, I hope he's well. I think he's from San Francisco. You break him up a little something? I know I didn't do that. God, I can't believe. He never asked up a little something? I don't know, I ain't do that.

God, I can't believe. He never asked, you got a closed mouth, don't get fed. Throw him a little piece, throw him a little something now. Like what? Y'all got something coming for you, bro. Damn, that's so crazy. Yeah. That's so crazy, I don't even know where he is right now.

Yeah, he'll know where you are after this. I bet he will. I bet the fuck he will. I bet the fuck he will. Let me the older rappers, they wasn't they they they weren't feeling you. Hell no. What what is it about? None of us. It wasn't just me. They weren't feeling our generation. Yes. It was a it was a clash. It was a divide. I think. But I mean, let me ask you a question. When you see all these young think before you started, like really killing it on TV

and you got this beautiful podcast and you make a beautiful name for yourself and your second life. Yeah. All these athletes coming in. And you may not have been that guy, but they're not athletes who was like. Yeah, they are. You see it all the time. They be hating on the young because they're making so much money. Right. I mean, I would like the pro Bowl now they make like a hundred thousand We made five thousand for the losers ten thousand to the winners and you see guys making sixty million

They're getting two hundred three hundred million dollar contracts But when I came along the money that I was making the guys in the 40s in the 50s weren't making that So they could have easily been envious of us. Push it forward. I did what I did. I moved on. I'm good. I'm happy for the guys. I cheer for Travis Kelso and Gronk and all those other guys. I had my time.

Right. I was born. Yeah. Mom, you mean to tell me my mom had me when she was 25. I'm like, mom, you couldn't wait to 30, 32, so I could have got somebody's bread? Right. She's like, nah, man, I was done.

Yeah. I was done. I feel that. I feel that. She's like, I started at 17. I was done at 25. Yeah, but no, I'm not I've never been a jealous jealous type and I see that a lot with rappers I see a lot with athletes and other actors and actresses. Oh, let these young people you had your moment. Yeah, you can't stay you can't stay on top of 5060 years. Right. I think everyone doesn't have that mindset. And I think that it came around. I think, I hate saying I think so many times, but I believe that people just didn't think

we were here to last. It felt like a fad at first minute because it wasn't, it wasn't cap- Capra-himbable, what was that? Compreh. Comprehimbable at the time. We were just like kids with colored hair and we dressed different.

And hip-hop stood for something different at the time. It was more like it was trap music, it was the streets, it was, and it still, those still play a big part in it, you know what I'm saying? But with the internet now, Yachty, it can happen just like that. And they had to take step by step.

And pass out mixed tapes. Yeah. And now you have a little song and they get catching up, you get picked up on TikTok or you get picked up on something. And it's a good and a bad thing, right? Because now we have a lot of like circulating. It's the same with even with the podcast. It's just like with everyone being able to have a mic now, it's just like a lot of ignorance gets spread widely, quickly, and that didn't used to happen. You know, like when you had to get watch TV and you got you only heard music on the radio and on TV was a lot harder. You know, even like getting news, that's why we get so much false news now because anyone can just publish it. But but that's life you know you got a roll with the punches you know you take the good with the bad you know they call it mumble rap did you

ever I mean did they ever make you question yourself hey I know I was never mumbling right ever I like I understand it was a like a lot of a lot of the periods were I wasn't whether I was like mumbling. Right. Ever. I understand it was a lot of the periods were. I wasn't. Whether I was rapping at the highest level or not, I never mumbled. It was never a part of my thing. But whatever, I was like, bro, I really made money.

Oh, I believe it. So with that being said, negative feedback never really made money. Oh, I believe it. So with that being said, negative feedback never really bothered me. It just tickles me a bit. You know? All the narratives that I ever see about myself, there's a narrative online. There's so many narratives about me.

There's narratives that I'm a colorist. Tickles me, right? I'm not a colorist at all. That makes no sense. But I'm just private about my dating life. But the people I have been seen with have been rather on the lighter side. Yeah, yeah, you kinda like them little eyes.

I ain't saying that, but they high. That's who I got caught with. I got caught on the lighter side. But I like all walks of women. But it seems like the one they can't you walk it with on the lighter side. Mm-hmm. But like, I like all walks of women. Mm. You know, all tall, small. But see, that's the one they can't you walk it with. Look at the good side of the way. I got caught, yeah, I got caught walking light.

Bright. And bright. Damn, they're white. Kind of tight. But. But you like what you like, Yachty. But I like all things. Yes.

Like, I'm not a freaking colorist. Right. And I don't I don't know where this narrative came from. Like, I don't know. Do you want me to just think I'm a bad guy? Really? Yeah. It's crazy. I love women. Yeah. You know what you mentioned You mentioned something earlier. You mentioned like you never want to stay the same and you're always trying to constantly involve. So how were you, when did that come to your head? Like man, you know what? I'm doing this and I'm doing really good at it.

But in order for me to be able to sustain and grow, I need to improve in certain areas. Failing. I ain't had a high career for 10 years. I had some down periods. I had periods when I was killing it and I was making the most money I ever made. Then I had periods when my money cut in half. My show prices cut in half and the attendance at the shows cut in half and my bill on festivals went up. You know, I went from performing later to performing higher in the show. And this is later in my career and not that it really matters but my social appearance dropped. My likes on my pictures went down and how many people started watching my story went

down. I watch all these things. So there was a time period when I was like man things are changing and I and I had a certain lifestyle that was like That I had to uphold, you know, and so I had to figure out ways of Reinventing my will, you know and just showing people cuz I care so Like I love money, but I also care about the craft and I care about music and I care about artists and I care about musicians who do great things. And I like to be in that conversation because I respect music and I hear it and I breathe it and I want to make sure I'm a part of that.

So I was like, how do I do that? You get your ass in the studio, you know, you sure I'm a part of that. So I was like, how do I do that? You get your ass in the studio. You know, you want to be a part of the greatest athletes or actors, you get your ass in your craft and you show them, right? And I still got tons of work to do and that's what keeps me going. I enjoy it.

I don't ever want to be like. You don't ever want to become complacent. Absolutely not. But I don't think I can. It's impossible for me because I enjoy doing so many things, right? Like even if I was to which, now, saying it'll happen, guys, don't fry me, but if I was to become the best rapper of all time, I would then want to be like the best rock artist or like pop artist.

I would just, I want to do something else, right? So I never become. So you don't want to scale the mountain and just get up there and bask. You want to find another amount to climb. It's just fun to do, you know. All of it is fun to do because it's limitless. You know, there's no, I don't have a coach, I don't have a director, I don't have, there's no direction.

And it's also the hardest part about it because there's no one telling you which way to go. You know, music is like when you get to a certain level in music, you got to think about it, man, these labels, they genuinely like they thrive off money. So if you sign to a label, regardless how much they tell you, oh, man, like you're creative and do your thing. And they make money. They thrive off of you making money. So they want you to make hit records. Right. And a hit record. Think about think about the concept of a hit record.

You you're making a song for people, about the concept of a hit record. You're making a song for people, right, that you do not know. I don't know any of you guys, right? Like, I respect you, you love me, you're a fan, thank you so much. But I don't know you. So I'm supposed to be... Like, there's two sides of music. It's the people who make music for themselves and what they love and what they like.

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negotiations and everything that led up to their clients signing on the dotted line. Listen to the Athletes First Family podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Right? Like they want to knock it out. Is that what the hardest? Is that when you're going out there instead of making it? When you're trying. Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, when you're out there trying to do what you think is popular, a lot of artists do that, you know, and then some do what they like.

And then that kind of shows, you know, taste level. If you do what you like and it goes, you got good taste. If you do what you like, it's like the s*** sucks. Two things, either your taste is terrible, or they just not there yet. Kanye West always did what he wanted to do. And sometimes people don't understand it at first. And they have to come around to it later. Tyler just dropped the album doing what he wanted to do and people loved it. You know? So I think it's all about, I don't know, man, everyone's path is different in life. That's the one thing I always say, you can give advice to a certain extent,

but my success won't be yours. How I came up in the things that I did, it may not necessarily be your path to your key. Not to say that there isn't a path for you, it's just that it's not always the same you know, so I try to give it people advice with like Stipulations almost like like this will happen for me But like you know, but if I do see something that I can clearly see is off I always try to you know partakes of wisdom. Yeah, of course because they're nobody do it for me, right?

Until like I got older but in the beginning my career and have it Your dad was a famous photographer. He worked with outcast Kanye West Luta and more did you ever go to work with your dad? sometimes not always but it I would I would come to his house after work, okay, and he'd Have all the like it'd be like it'd have all the, like it'd be like, it'd be like I didn't see him kill somebody, but I would come over and it'd be like bullet shells.

What I mean by that is that he'd have all these pictures. All these folks. Just like, so like I didn't, I never seen him do it, but I would see it and be like, and he'd be like, yeah, this was last Friday and this was Saturday. And he flew around a lot. He was always gone.

He was like, yeah, he always went to places. My dad was always, he's a big traveler and he's never home for it. You like to travel too hard. I hate traveling. You hate traveling? I hate traveling. How you gonna be an artist if you hate traveling?

I hate traveling for leisure. Okay. You know, because I'm always on the road and I don't like hotel rooms. be artists that you hate traveling. I hate traveling for leisure. OK. You know, because I'm always on the road. And I don't like hotel rooms. They have no life. They have no they have no. Personality. Yeah, it's just a stock photo on the wall,

a really tightly tucked bed and bad furniture. And a TV with no channels. And sometimes it's shot with bad water pressure. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Let me ask you, what did you learn most from your dad? Just to be myself. Like I said, my dad used to drive a Mercedes station wagon, a vintage one.

And at the time I didn't understand old cars. When I was young young I was like, Dad, this car is old as. You know? Like my mom had a new Beamer. Well not new, but like newer. And my dad drove vintage cars, you know? And he wore what he wanted to wear.

At the time, when I was young, Nike was the. My dad wore New Balances. And he was like, Dad, what the are these? Why are you wearing these? You know? And when I was like, dad, what the are these? Why are you wearing these? Right. You know? And when I was younger, it just took a lot for me to understand my father did what he wanted to do.

You know, when I grew up, my dad, I would see my dad when I was young every other weekend, for the most part, unless he had to work. And he was never like a, he was never like a, like, my dad never was like, see them, they gay. We don't do that. You know, like he wasn't one of,

like I used to hang around friends who parents, they were like that. My dad was like, he was a real like accepting person of everything. You know, he was real like, life is just life. You know, almost like a hippie, but he wasn't a hippie, but he was kind of like,

he kind of body like that. It was very uncommon for a black man in the South. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was, my dad was different. Is, I'm talking like he did or something. He's different, he's a different guy. And growing up, I think, and he listened to all types of music. And I think he just taught me to like, do you right, you know, and like, if that's what you like.

like if you like to wear slacks with tube socks or skinny jeans or loose jeans or even a curl mustache or Crazy hair whatever do it, you know, and it's crazy cuz he didn't tell me these things I just saw it in him. I saw him dress how he wanted to dress And he never said when you showed up with look at a certain way like boy what you got it on for never You know, you look at like that. He he honestly used to always be like, ah you look cool. Or like, he always was like, you know, you look fresh or whatever and he always played, I think I also went through him playing so much music. I like, I be studying things, like when I was in school I wanted to be a psychologist, right? So like, I studied things. So like, even if you would play certain music, I'd go and then I'd go look at their videos or see them perform live or look at their pictures and then you know, if you listen to some music, I'd go and then I'd go look at their videos or see them perform live or look at their pictures and then you know if you listen to rock music they dress differently.

You know, their shows are different and their interviews are a little bit different and their charisma is different and so I would just deep dive into all these different things and so without him even like probably knowing that it was just unlocking a much more of a Free or yardy. Yeah, you know I'm saying a freeway of a man who just I wasn't ever really judgmental I never really cared and I just mind my business. I don't really care what nobody else got going on Since your dad worked in the industry. He knew coach K you had that rap only for a year Yeah, people like man y'all they are playing. They weren for a year. Yeah, people like man. Y'all do you play anyone even it? Yeah I mean what explain tell me what a plan is cuz I could I hear this term a lot of time What is a plan? I'm not cuz I'm thinking you know I grew up on a farm and I know that would the definition of a plant what we talked About we had to plant tobacco. We had to plant seed and crops to grow but what's an industry plant?

You plant tobacco? Yeah. Damn. I grew about three hours south of here. Okay. Rural South Georgia. Where? Glenville. Never heard of it. Okay. You know of Savannah? Yeah. I'm about 60 miles from Savannah. More south or closer? Like inland. Savannah's right on the coast. I'm a little inland. Okay, cool cool cool Yeah, our industry plan is basically so crazy cuz you don't really like you have them but like they don't really succeed like back in a day like but it's basically just like a artist that was made in house and and it's put in position with other artists to kind

of blend in. Block their blessings. Well, not even block, but just kind of to blend in and kind of like skip the line. Okay. You know, like you kind of like if like, if Def Jam found an artist and they felt potential and they just kind of stuck them next to Future you know and like kind of tried to like Some future like you know or anybody don't gotta be future anybody. I'm not saying like future, but just like anyone That's kind of like what an industry plan

It's just someone that is moving at the speed of light and it doesn't make sense how they're growing so fast You know, but now it's just the it's just the way social media works. People can really overnight and explode, you know, and had nothing to do it. Sometimes they honestly this industry, they don't even know how to market a lot of artists. It's just so either you know how to work social media or it just works for you. These labels really don't be knowing what they're doing, to be honest. Right. That's truth. That's the real truth.

So but when you obviously you've heard that because they say you skipped the line. Yeah. How y'all it was right here one day. And next thing I know, he and Kanye, he and Kanye fashion show. He doing music with Kanye, blah, blah, x, y, z. So how did that make you feel? You just keep your head down, say, y'all keep talking, I'm gonna keep making this bread, and I don't worry about what y'all say. You know, I didn't care because I was so set.

You know? Like the thing with me was negativity never bothered me because I realized that like, this world really is so big. And I started to get the perception that the reason you see so much hatred is because the people hating, that's what they spending time doing. You know, you got so many people that love you, right? And that cherish you and respect you.

They're just living life. You know, you're not gonna spend your time like telling someone how much you just, oh, I just love you. Some people will you're not going to spend your time like telling someone how much you just, oh, I just love you. Some people will, but you, you go on about your day. You know, if you listen to Yachting, you love them, you in school, you at work, you just, you just doing it. You love them in life.

You know, you go to a show, you support by marriage, but you're not going to spend all day talking about how much you love them. You just do it. Right. So like when I was like doing things and you know, people would come to me in the street or I would do a show or like I was just growing, it's like, okay, well, someone loves me. Correct. It's not like my bills are paid. You feel me? So like, people just have more time to hate this a certain type of person. And it's only

online. I've never met anybody in the street that says I hate Shannon Sharpe. Man. Or I dislike her. And why you come up with that name? Man, you know how, and you make black people look bad by smoking black in my eyes and drinking brown liquor on TV. I've never heard anybody. No one's ever told me to my face that you suck. Nobody.

You can't, right? It's only online, but you know what, I had to learn because my sister say, Shannon, there's no possible way you could be ascending like you are and have more haters than supporters. But it took me a while because the thing is, when you play a sport, Yachty, if you're in an arena and there could be 80,000 fans

cheering, yeah, we love you, 84, we love you, Sharp. It's that 1,000 that's booing that somehow is able to drown out the 80,000 that's cheering. And I had to learn to tune my ears, to not hear the boos, but only hear the applause. And it took me a while to get over that. Because when I was playing, I understood Steeler fans disliking me

because I played for the Broncos and the Ravens. I understood that then. But now I'm like, what is it that I'm doing in my life that causes you to dislike me so much? I think that people just have insecurities in themselves and so they Mask it by taking it out on someone else, you know your comfort Maybe as a man, you know your masculinity and the things that you enjoy and the things that that you're comfortable doing

You know, it can make someone so uncomfortable because they aren't comfortable, you know, and I feel no way for them. I have no pity. Because I love myself. You feel me? And now I'm at the point now, I look good, I smell good, I feel good.

And I guarantee you Any sisters or exes or current girlfriends that you may be involved with or having your life feel the same way So all the side talk is irrelevant at this point speaking directly in the camera because I know you watching is hating at this very moment I want you to understand that anytime you spend time being negative on me, I'm someone like, smiling. Y'all heard it? He looked directly in the camera.

He's talking to a specific group of people. Y'all hate math. Yeah. When you signed that big deal with quality control, what was the first thing that you did? You got your first meal. I blew that check in a week. What?

How much was it? Like 1.3 I think. In a week? Yeah. What the hell you buy? New York City? Man, the second I got that, I never forget I was in my mom's house

and we lived in that same house my entire life. And I had two of the homies, they was living in, I had this real small room. And I would, I remember I signed a deal, but it took like two, almost three weeks for the check to clear. So every day I woke up, I checked my bank account. Woke up, not there.

Woke up, not there. Woke up, not there. One day I woke up. My mother fuck was in there. Man, I was screaming, I was talking about, I was like, what the fuck, I'm rich, I'm rich. I went straight to Mercedes, fuck you talking about. G-Wagon, I need that, right?

I said, damn, I can't beat G-Wagon, mama ain't got no car, okay, Range Rover, you know what I'm saying? Penthouse, grandma need a car, you know what I'm saying? Gucci, I need everything in this bitch, every color. I was going crazy. I was 18. I was, I fucked that money up so quick. Hold up, so you look, you looking like,

hold on, I just had 1.3 and now I just got the three. No, I didn't think about it. It was just gone. I never looked, bro, it took years for me to look at my bank account. I was making so much. And also I was so hot. Like I was making so much money. Like I spent a million in that million in a week, but like I probably made it

back in the next two weeks. Like I was making so much money and I never, I didn't even have a password to my bank account. If I started at 18, I probably didn't have a password to my bank account until I was like 24. Yeah, my mom just marketed, my mom was my business manager and she checked it, but I never checked my bank account. My cards never declined. I was, I did the I wanted. I woke up for like buying a Bentley. I went and bought that Bentley.

I was, it was crazy, bro. It didn't really make any sense the way I was living. It was insane. So yeah, I spent that money in a week. So what would you say, what was the worst purchase you made? What was the best thing that you did once you got some money? I think it's all stupid.

You only go to one place at one time when you need so many cars for. Right now I got like 13 cars for what? Yeah, Yachty. No, I think it's stupid. Downsizing it two or three. Downsizing, Yachty. Like you just just say you can only drive one. I like cars I know I think is I think it's all a stupid obsession, you know, even watches

Why do we have so many? Well, that's either that now you talk about Why why do we need so many protects, you know Why do we need so many for texts? Why do we have to have- That's an overworked there. I mean, you gotta- But why do we need so many? I don't even look at this for time. No, no.

You let people know your time valuable. Yeah, yeah. That's true. That's true because I do- it's so crazy. When I am shopping, I feel like they're kind of overlooking me as I'm standing. And I do sometimes, and I be like, y'all got any signs of looking in here? And they're like, oh yes, we are. And they start bringing stuff.

I was like, that's what I thought. That's what I thought. A great watch is a conversation piece. They might not know who you are, but they look at your wrist and they see a Rollie and they see an AP, they see a Patek. They like, okay, a Vacheron. Yeah, yeah, a constant.

They know you mean something. Yes, they might not know who you are, but we need to give this young man our undivided attention. Absolutely. And then they see the, I got it! That's true, that's true, that's true. I mean, well, I think you could do that with one watch.

If you got one good one. Yeah. I got too many watches. I don't even want to talk about it. But like, it's like, oh, I got so many things that I can say. Like I just, like if I, what I do tell people is like, man, bro, save your money. Because I don't care about any of this stuff. I got thousands of tennis shoes that I'll never win.

Eventually they'll go bad. You know? Like they will. I ended up selling just, just sold like in November, like 313 bad. You know, like they will get your- I end up selling just so like in November, like 313 pair. You feel me? Like, and it's just that you just do. Yeah.

Right, having all them cars, they go bad cause the weather conditions, just sitting outside. Fucking, I go through these different phases. Like, once I went through a phase, I bought every video game system console ever made. Why? And it wasn't like I was buying them, like just buying them used,

like I need them in pristine, brand new condition. So I was spending the top dollar and it just sitting in a corner, you know? I had a real obsession with toys at one point, like collectibles and it's just sitting in a box and it's like in boxes and it's like, I spent like thousands and thousands, I go so crazy and obsessed.

And then like I never do nothing with this stuff. So I always tell people like, right, even jewelry, in the beginning of my career, I was spending millions on custom jewelry that like is just worth nothing. You know, or in my case- It's only worth something to you. Well, in my case, my house got broken too.

It was all taken, right? So it's like, it's just no point like of course spoil yourself and do good things for yourself and reward yourself but don't overboard it you know like do something nice and enjoy it and be like do do something that's going to make you more money you know because I spent a lot of money on things that it brought me happiness is a depreciating asset. Absolutely, right. So like, but it's important to have people around. I say like when you get into an industry and you start doing making a name for yourself, surround yourself with people who have been there, you know, so that you can be pointed in certain directions by people who have been down that

path before. Because when I came in, I didn't have anyone, right. When QCC first signed me they were coming from a independent label to just now signing to becoming a major label Capital Records and so and before me they had a lot of street artists right and so it was kind of like we were same time coming into like right a different level of money right together so like we just we didn't I didn't have no one over my shoulder like do this with your money do that with your money don't buy that that's the excuse me don't do that don't do I didn't have it you know but I grew up and and and caught a better understanding but man it's so many ways to to to take that money and make it back flip, for real.

You bought two neighbors lake houses because they were too close to yours. One. What? I bought one and then I bought, yeah I bought. You said, hey bro, let me get that off the hook. He was a nice guy, he threw a lot of parties. And he would always have these pool parties and they were loud and I could always,

I look out my window and they were always looking over at my house. Like looking over in there and I was like, I hated that. Cause he had done told them, you know who lived next door. Well everyone in the neighborhood knew I lived there. It was weird. Like cause people would come through on a boat

blasting my music on the speakers to see if I'd come outside. Did you go outside? Hell no. You know? But it was like, even in the beginning, they used to bring me cookies to like my house before I got security. They cool though,

it's just white people being white people. Yeah, being neighborly huh? Unless you like that couple in Ohio and ask why were you, that's not your house. But we'll talk about that another day. Let me ask you this, hold on, you spent 90, 100,000 on veneers. Yeah.

And a million dollars on diamonds? Yeah, on implants. 16 carats. Yeah. I mean, unless you smile really, really big, you can't see them. You know what I'm saying? It's just...

The mind says everything. When you go up and talk to somebody, you always smiling and you laughing and you and people faint. Yeah. But you can't beat a cavity creep now. Man, no, hell nah, but you know what I'm saying? Like women love it.

They do. Women like a good smile. Oh, you have a pretty smile. Women love a good smile, clean nails, smooth skin and a good scent. That's the key. And I want to say they like a good physique too, but I'm starting to meet women who don't care anymore.

Like I meet women who like chubby boys or like, because you like what you like, but I think that... Well, you can be chubby and young, you can't be chubby and old. That's true. So if you know, I got to stand away. I ain't going to lie to you, I got to stay in the weight room. I'm about to be 50-70, Yachty, so you know.

And I think it's just a custom to you, probably, at this point, right? Like, is that not just a part of your regimen? It is. But I know, like, I'm aging out of a demographic. I'm aging into a demographic that I can't, you know what I'm saying, when I was in my 20s and 30s. You can fuck around.

Yeah, now. Slim pickings you go around. Yeah now Slim picking for you boy. That's true. That's true No, you good Just a thing with people like you man y'all get to some age and you still like them young you like yeah Yeah, you like the same age girls. I like When you get to sir hey, I'm getting old but my eyesight still young So when you get to a certain age. I'm getting old, but my eyesight's still young. Right. OK, and with that, you got to uphold a certain way,

because you can't be old and sloppy. Mm-mm. You get one or the other. Young and sloppy or older than Shake? Exactly. Or you're going to get older than Shake. Women. No, no, no, exactly

So we could do more face more Instagram live Experiences there you go. See there you go. Yeah Exactly. That was just a that was just a audio if miss Pat said that was for the that was for the visually impaired Those for those who do Braille, Yeah, those, I get it. Okay, those who can't see. I read what your monthly expenses were like 52k a month. You down now?

I'm double. You double now? Yeah. You supposed to be going the other way, Yachty. No, I'm at 100 now, for sure. Oh, man. Yeah. Is that more than you?

Hell yeah! Damn. What you mean more than, way Is that more than you? Hell yeah. Damn. What you mean, way, way more than me. Really? Yes, absolutely. Always, you never was there? No, I ain't got no brand like that.

I ain't had that money poured in like that. That's cap. Why you say cap? Yachty. I'm gonna tell you one thing. I do, I'm a professional pocket watcher. Okay. I do It's why people it's all I do and last night I was on Cleopatra say YouTube channel and these views are substantial And I know how you to payment goes and I know how ad revenue goes you do. Alright, I do. Okay

You do damn okay in capital letters. So we don't see an act like you you don't do alright now you do damn okay in capital letters So we don't see act like you you can do all right now you do that. I do pretty good. I do pretty good Yeah, yeah, I'll see you know CJ who we've been together CJ now. He worked with me at Fox And when I left I brought it with me. He's here. He and I EP to show We've got a great job. This podcast is man. You are doing amazing things. I've never seen it. Oh Maybe maybe maybe fucking Buddy, but like ain't too many podcasts. You can go down a hole and it's just like good views. I'm your user Hella good what we put we do the best high-tech cameras Yeah, yeah now we come up with guests that we think are gonna be very, very interesting, have a great story to tell.

The way we produce it, the graphics, the editing. I mean, but it's also you. You're cutting yourself short. You are more than half of this show. People come here because people respect you and people value you and value that their time is in good hands with you. So you play a big part.

I definitely allow them to tell their story. And that's why the videos are so long. It's because I'm not trying to. Oh, I only got an hour. I want you to tell your story in its entirety. And don't feel like you, man, that I left something else. I wish I could have shared this with this individual. I like for people to tell their story.

And that's respectable. Thank you. Investments. So now you spend, you got to invest something, Yachty. Yeah. Hell yeah. Clearly you invest in diamonds. I invest in a lot of things.

I don't want to talk about none of my investments, but... Crypto? Man, I did crypto. I was a scammer. I went to jail for scamming. Damn! How you scamming Pope? Man, I was a scammer. I went to jail for scamming. Damn, how you scamming Pope? Man, I was poor, right?

And so like I was buying Bitcoin in 2014. You know, we was buying Bitcoins and none of that other stuff, just solely Bitcoin because that was how we went on the black web. Yeah. And that's how I bought your information. That's how I had your grandma's social, you know, they only paid, you could only pay in Bitcoin and it was dumb But then you get a Bitcoin back then for like five grand. Yes

2500 yeah, I had a guy I was showing someone that he are a buddy of mine and he's like a I'm just doing this cuz you know I like you you're a good friend of mine and I was just opportunity to buy Bitcoin He said I can sell you 10 now and I can sell you 10 every six months But it'll cost you 25 it'll cost you $2,500 a coin. What year is this? It's 2015 Wow. I Didn't know anything about it. Yachty Wow, so, you know if I don't know anything about it. I Say nah, I can't do that, bro. I said I can't do that Because he's gonna sell me 10 call the 2500 What's your number? Was he a good friend? Did you trust? Yeah, uh, I

Had met him about five or six times at uh, and saw him at different places. And so I was like man Why not just buy why not just buy 10? I mean, I wouldn't have been. We do that though. I've done that so many times and you beat yourself up by it, but I think that's the thing, sometimes you just gotta take those chances. You do.

But who would've knew? I'm telling you, I was buying Bitcoin and I'm talking about, I was buying it with no money. Like had I knew to just keep an account and hold some of that stuff instead of buying credit information,, I would have been I would have been a millionaire, you know, but I'd wait Cuz what is the coin now a hundred thousand I think it went down a little bit But yeah, it's way more than it's 80,000 and you know, you could buy I could bought 10 initially then 10 every six months

Let's just say I buy 50. Yeah, you would have been you would have been probably been doing something different now Yeah, yeah, no, no, I still be I still been doing it but that's beautiful. They look They would have never known I had Bitcoin. Yeah, but there'd have been signs. Yeah You know, I come to work on the elephant I get it for sure. Yeah, I get it. They would know I'm little yachting. I ride a yacht everywhere. Let me ask you. Let me ask you a question. Because I think we both get this is what happens a lot with us is that friends asking to invest in

something of theirs, trying to help friends out. You shaking your head y'all you shaking your head. Goodness. Oh my goodness. This is a part of being black and successful. Yeah. How do you say no? Me, it's easy. No. Really?

Yeah. I like that. I think that's an older mentality. Like y'all just, y'all comfortable with no. Yeah. You gotta be. What about when you was younger? What about when you was in the league? Was it easy then with no. Yeah. You gotta be. What about when you was younger? What about when you was in the league?

Was it easy then? Yeah, yeah. Cause I've never really had a whole bunch of friends. I've had my friends and we cool. We were cool when I was in the league and when I was in college and we're cool now. And so for me, because you have to put limits. You have to put limits on what you give

because takers will never put limits on what they take So if you just give give give they'll take take take and then the moment you tell them no You ain't issue. Then you fake. Yeah You got all that money. Yeah, did all your friends do something what they all know my friend one of my college friends He's still he's still one of my best friends. I really I'd say I got two best friends. Okay, Keith Burns and Darrell McCormick. And we're like brothers. I ain't gonna say we like brothers. We are brothers. The only thing the difference is we don't have the same blood. We don't have the

same parents anything like that. But because I look at this, I measure my friend y'all. If the roles were reversed, I was in their shoes. They were in my shoes. They would help me just like I helped them. Absolutely That's like that's that's the only that's the only way I can measure a friend if the rows were reversed How would he treat me and if they and if shit gets sticky out? I got who gonna be there? They're gonna ride. Yes, but they but what I like I think what I like most about them y'all is that they tell me what I need to know not what I want to hear

Cuz even though we've been friends for 30 plus years, my homeboy, I say, homeboy, you know, you're my homeboy and I love you. But you were wrong in this situation. You shouldn't say that. You shouldn't have done that. That's important. Because a lot of times people will tell you what you want to hear because they don't want that bus to stop and you to open the door and ask them to get off. So they go, yeah, man, you right. Got a way to tell them. Yeah.

Mm-mm. Yeah. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. And it's so crazy. That's the thing about when you get into this industry, man. It's so hard to tell. It is.

So many people want to just ride, pause. Jesus. So like, but they but but they just they just disguise themselves, you know, and sometimes it take a real nasty incident for you to find out. You know, I'm so like, I'm so used to just like people turning their backs. They're like, I'm so numb. I'm so used to like doing for people and like, being there for people and like them just like slumming or snaking or like. You would do something for people a hundred times

but it's that one on one that you don't do that all of a sudden you. And now you're a bad guy. I did a hundred things for a hundred people. Yeah, but that's the devil. You know, those saying the devil will never show up as the devil because if he did, he would let you, you wouldn't let him in your circle y'all damn

It's I gotta show up as a friend cuz I got to get close to you if I showed up as the devil you Actually gonna do the deal Some people will don't depend on what it's at the end of it. Huh? Yeah, what that deal? It tailed. Yeah. Well, I think a lot of people do a lot of things for Small rewards this concludes the first half of my conversation I think a lot of people do a lot of things for small rewards. This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two is also posted and you can access it to whichever podcast platform you just listened to part one on.

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