Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Ms.Pat Part 1

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

In this heartfelt and hilarious episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe sits down with the incomparable Ms. Pat—comedian, actress, podcast host, NAACP-nominated author, and Emmy-nominated creator of The Ms. Pat Show on BET+. Ms. Pat opens up about her remarkable journey from humble beginnings in Atlanta to becoming a force in the entertainment industry. She reflects on the tough lessons learned growing up in a bootleg house, becoming a teenage mom, and how she transformed her life despite the odds. Ms. Pat shares an unforgettable moment with Shannon, recalling the advice he gave her on a plane about matching her Gucci backpack and Louis Vuitton purse, which sparked a lasting bond between the two. She also discusses the emotional responsibility of raising her sister’s children while juggling her own, the challenges of growing up with an abusive mother, and the painful yet transformative process of forgiveness, including caring for her estranged father in his final years. Through laughter, tears, and her signature raw humor, Ms. Pat explores the power of comedy as therapy and how it helped her heal from trauma. She calls Katt Williams one of the most caring comedians and shares that Katt paid for her dad’s funeral. Ms. Pat also dives deep into her personal life, including the pride she feels in building a legacy for her children and the lessons she's learned about love, resilience, and self-worth. With her down-to-earth attitude and refusal to embrace the “celebrity” label, Ms. Pat’s story is one of resilience, transformation, and finding humor in even the darkest moments.   #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, 1974. George Foreman was champion of the world. Ali was smart and he was handsome. The story behind the Rumble in the Jungle is like a Hollywood movie. But that is only half the story. There's also James Brown, Bill Withers, B.B. King, Miriam Makeba.

All the biggest slack artists on the planet. Together in Africa. It was a big deal. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. What's up everybody. It's Peter Schrager. We're back for the season with Peter Schrager.

In each episode of the season, I'm going to empty my proverbial notebook and take you inside and behind the scenes on the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. You see, you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week, but the next week, you're gonna be at a bar elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football, like Kansas City Chiefs fan,

Paul Rudd. By the way, can I just point out how much I like the music of this podcast? Music is awesome. It's very good. It's very kind of like a funky beat. Listen to the season with Peter Schreger on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. Driving home from work, you got time for 10 takes. Taking a smoke break, you still smoke, you got time for 10 takes. Hiding in the bathroom at work, you got time for 10 takes. Listen to 10 takes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You put out a sex tape for the blind people. What was her name, Michelle? I don't know. That's good to hear a 56 year old man making that kind of sound in the bedroom.

Because usually y'all just fart. Then grindin' all my life, sacrifice Hustle pay the price, want a slice Got the roller dice, that's why All my life, I be grindin' all my life All my life, then grindin' all my life Sacrifice, hustle pay the price, want a slice Got the roller dice, that's why All my life, I be grindin' all my life Hello, welcome to another episode of Club CheChe. I am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor of Club CheChe. The lady that's stopping by for conversation and a drink today is one of the most relatable

women out here today. She's an ATL-born comedian, stand-up superstar selling out shows nationwide. Popular actress, successful host, podcast celebrity, entertainment mogul, NAACP nominated author, star, creator, writer, executive producer of the Emmy nominated sitcom Miss Pat Show. BT, B, please plus first ever Emmy nomination, a loved mother, a wife, and an auntie. Here she is, Miss Pat. Well damn, you did your homework. I ain't never been introduced like that unless I was in court.

This is not the first time we met. Tell the people the first time that we met. So we was on a plane on Delta coming to Atlanta and I think something was going on with the football but I got to talking and I said I was a Falcom fan and so you Louis Vuitton down and this was early in my career and I had a Gucci book bag and I had a Louis Vuitton purse and you was like, hey, you're going gonna have to get your stuff to match. All your labels gotta match. And I was like, you go to hell. I got what I could buy when I can buy. And so when my stuff do match and I always think of you, I was like, black ass gonna get out the plane and tell me my shit need to match.

Thank you so much, Ms. Pat, for stopping by. I know you're busy. You got a lot going on. Been watching your shows. So I would like to take a little toast to your career. Congratulations on everything that you've accomplished, everything that you've overcome, and much, much more to come.

Just a little... Just a little, just a little. Shannon, I don't drink. One more sip of that, you gonna have me hollering like you had that other woman holler. Baby, baby. I thought we was gonna get like a three month grace period. I don't know, this is my first time seeing you since that happened. I was like that's a man that go to the gym. And I could tell I don't know but in the black community

we was assuming she was white the way she was holly because most sister could have tucked that. She was holly like she wasn't used to it. So I was like, all right then Shannon, that's how you put out a sex tape with no film, just sound. Shannon, you put out a sex tape for the blind people. Ha ha ha. What was her name, Michelle? I don't know. I know everybody been ragging you on that one.

Yeah, yeah. You come in right off the rip too. But you know what, that's good. What are you, 56? You 56. That's good to hear a 56 year old man making that kind of sound in the bedroom. Because usually y'all just fart. You know, to hear the head boy going and no gas in the air, I was proud of you. I was a proud black mom. Thank you. Well, congratulations.

The Miss Pat Show just got picked up for season number five. What has it been like for this new found celebrity for you? You know, people call it celebrity. Shannon, I'm'm gonna be honest with you I live right here in Atlanta and when I'm not doing the Miss Pat Show I be at TJ Maxx when we going backwards I don't want to get recognized but I do get recognized. So I just say I look at it as a job. Right. Do and you know people gonna recognize me I take a picture with a filter if I don't have

on makeup and I mean I'm glad that people are noticing the work that I'm putting out there But to say I don't really use the word celebrity. I'm your friend at the grocery store. I'm your friend at TJ Maxx I love TJ Maxx. Yeah. Yeah home goods Is this new found success everything that you thought it would be the money is good You know, I mean, you know my background. I'm so cracked for it. It is nice to be able to go in there and swipe a card that belongs to you. And not have to pay the money on the card?

No, not to pay the police don't come out the back. I didn't have them cause I wanted the money. I had to call with the money that wasn't mine. Okay. So if you're looking back where you are right now, Miss Pat, what would your 10 year old self, what would you tell yourself? I would tell my 10 year old self, we made it. We made it. You know, I look over my life and I you know, my kids really young and went through a lot and all I ever wanted to do is just show my kids the work, show my kids a life that I never had.

And you know, this year I finished my house off a TikTok. I was a contractor. It was about 15,000 square feet and to pull up to that house. 15,000? Yeah, I built it. Telling jokes. But I'm a DIY person. I'm a DIY person.

I was a subcontractor. Okay, okay. So I did. DIY person. I'm a DIY person. I was a subcontractor. Okay. Okay. So I did. I did a lot of it myself. Not the work. I just contracted it out and I had a plan. I saved a certain amount of money. So I look back and you know, and the things that I'm putting in place for my kids, when I'm with my grandkids, when I'm no longer here and I can say I'm fine somebody finally get to leave generational wealth right and you know for me I'm at 14 I mean I had my first kid at 14 dropped out of school in the eighth grade and to be able to do all of this and to help my immediate family it means a lot to me right it do as a former NFL player I know a thing or two about high performance and that's

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Build your dream car today and join me in experiencing luxury and performance that only the ultimate driving machine can offer. You're from ATL. What is some of your favorite and we're going to get into your childhood, your upbringing, but what are some of your fondest memory as a child? Going to Grandma Biscuit with my stepdaddy Curtis. Okay. Right there off of, I want to say it was Moreland Avenue, but he used to wake us up every morning on a Saturday and take us to Grandma Biscuit. They used to have these biscuits called Cat Head biscuits, and he would buy us some biscuits. I'm quite sure it was like a dollar back then, but that was a lot of money. My stepdaddy was a mechanic, and he would take us there, and he would set us in Grandma Biscuit, me

and my sister at five o'clock in the morning. He would never eat. He would buy us the biscuits. He would drink a cup of coffee. And that was, you know, when him and my mama broke up, that was one of the things I missed the most. You know, that father figure getting us up at five o'clock and doing the things that I used to do. So that's a big memory for me. Did you stay in contact with him after they separated? Yeah, he used to come over and drop off school clothes and stuff like that and you know, he stills Actually when he died, I helped bury them. Wow. Yeah

What what's your proudest moment of a child? My proudest moment as a child. I remember I went to this back in this back in the day They would have these black history plays in school So kids don't get to do this anymore, but you had to really act out. If you were Martin Luther King, you needed to know that speech, you needed to be dressed like him, you need to change your voice, you had to become that person. And this particular year, I was Lena Horne and I had a play and I did this play.

And I asked my mama to come and I had my speech down pat and I performed my speech and I looked in the audience and my mother wasn't there and it broke my heart but I remember walking down the street and I said, you'll never hurt me anymore. Wow. And that's, I think that's when my heart became hurting and I knew I was going to always have to take care of myself. Mm-hmm Well, what type of relationship did you have with your mom?

My mom was a alcoholic. She is five. I was her sixth child and she She was a She I know she dropped out of school probably elementary school cuz my mom was born in the 30s. And, you know, she gave us what was given to her. So it wasn't really a relationship. Because she was a young mom like yourself. She was a young mom like myself. Right. Mm-hmm.

You was raised at your, you mentioned, I read in your story that you was raised in a bootleg home with your grandfather, right? Yeah. And like 10 people at a time. It was a lot of people. A lot of people. A lot of people. So what was, because I was raised by my grandparents,

and I know my life would have been a lot different had I been raised with my parents, because the discipline and what they instilled in me, it was a lot different, grandparents to parents. So what do you remember most about being in that environment? Ooh, the bootleg house. Pickpocketing people, music. You were pickpocketing drunks?

Drunks, yep. Music. You were silver, Miss Pat? Well, shit, we was trained, too. Don't let me get too close, I might know how to steal your necklace. Just a lot of music, drunk people, fights, all kind of crazy mess. Gambling, people pulling up to the house with moonshine, sex, seeing people have sex, everything went at granddaddy house. Right.

So when you say you were trained to life or crime, basically pickpocket, but why would you pickpocket the people that were going to come back over the next week and buy more alcohol than you drink? Well they didn't remember. They thought they lost their money or something huh? Well once you fall asleep you don't know what you got. My mama would train us how to do that. Wow. You're like, uh mama this ain't right. At one point I was watching Sesame Street and my mom would give us like two to three dollars or something like that per customers And I and I was learning fraction and they said 10% and I asked her for 10%

But neither one of us knew how to count 10% of what I stole so she gave you 10 cents like a dime No, she gave me $10 So so you were only 10% of whatever you took in yes, but she didn't know what 10% mean You know that what 10% me So she gave you $10 and you might have $10 and I was happy cuz all I want to do is play Pac-Man The video game. Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh my goodness miss Pat Um, I read that your mom couldn't read nice and you dropped out You had your first kid at 14 You got pregnant at 13 first kid at 14 had another kid by the time you

were 15 dropped out of school and I had an abortion when I was 16 yeah. By a married man. By a married man. Miss Pat. What? I mean so he was married so I'm let's just say for the sake of our I don't know how old he is I'm gonna assume he's probably in his mid 20s. Maybe late 20s. He was in his early 20s and I was 12 when I met him Did your mom know about this guy she didn't care it happened to her

You know each one teach one so it happened to her so, you know, nobody protected her So how did she know how to protect me now? I knew how to protect my daughter cuz I told my daughter when I had her I said you would never go through what I went through Right and she did because you had to break the cycle because a lot of times miss Pat People raise kids kind of how they were raised Yes, unless they choose to break that cycle if you were disciplined tough a lot of times you discipline your kid I did this one. So I made a lot of mistakes with my, I had two sets of kids. I call them my Medicaid and my Blue Crawl Blue Shit kids. But I made a lot of mistakes with my first

kids because a lot of that hurt, I brought it into my parenthood. And when I met my husband, he was like, hey, you don't be talking to these kids like that. But he grew up with a mom and a dad in a Christian household. You know, I grew up being talked to a certain way and I did the same thing to my kids. Right. I read that you guys got baptized in a lot of different churches because they feed you. They would give us baskets. They would let us go to the bottom of the church and we would get food. You know, back in the day, if you had financial problems, you would go to the

church and get baptized and the church would write you a check and then you can go to the pantry. Well, that was a hustle for my mom so we got baptized a lot like 25 times to the point where I was like I'm sick of this damn water. And she would hate when they wrote her a check on Sunday too because she couldn't cash in the Monday. Miss Pate you got to write a book. I did I wrote a book it's called Rabbit. No you need to, it this need to be a movie.

It do need to be a movie. Hollywood. It need to be a movie. Cause this, your upbringing, I mean look, a lot of us have, you know, obviously we all go through something. Sometimes it's more than others. But listening and researching your story, I'm like, man, for you to overcome and to be where you are currently, do you look back and do you think about how blessed you actually are? Yeah, but to get where I'm at, and I tell this every time I tell this story, I had to forgive the people who harmed me. You can't get anywhere when you hate. When you hate something or somebody

that hate will control you. So that was a time I hated my mama for allowing this grown man to sleep with me. You know, letting other men, my baby daddy wasn't the first one I've been blessed several times before he even got to me So I I grew hate for my mother and then once I you know got older and realized what my kids father had done To me I started to hate him too But when you hate something or somebody you can't live. So I had, they was never, my mama is dead so I was never going to be able to ask her for forgiveness.

And when I asked my kids father he said well your mind and body wasn't 12. When I said why did you sleep with me? I was 12 years old. He said well your mind and body wasn't 12. So I knew then I had to forgive him so I could move on. And people was like but you, you know I tell these stories with a smile on my face. Well what am I, fuck I'm going to do? I'm going to cry. What am I going. Well, what am I? Fuck. I'm gonna do. I'm a cry. What I'm a cry for that kind of resentment all those years. Yeah. I remember you say, Miss Pat, there can never be freedom without forgiveness. That's right.

And so you finally, in order to forgive them, you became free. So if I'm not, if I'm hearing you correctly, was it your mom's boyfriend that molested you? Yeah. Did you tell her about it? Yeah. She didn't want to hear it. Because my mama's boyfriend took care of us. OK.

He paid to be. He had a wife. OK. But he'd come over every day, and he'd bought food, and he'd bought my mama beer, he'd bought her weed, and he helped her pay her a little rent in her little fishers' house where we lived at. So I kind of feel like my mom was like,

well, I had to give him something more than just me. So she looked the other way. That's what I, because when we tried to tell her, shut the hell up, don't nobody want to hear that. And we never said it again. And he did it many times. You said we, Me and my sister.

He slept with, it was both of you guys? Yeah, he touched both of us. Mm-hmm. Man. touched both of us. Man, is that where the resentment really started from from that moment when you tried to explain to your mom what was going on and she turned a blind eye? Well, it was before my kid's father. He molested us before I met my kid's father. But it was just a whole lot of other stuff that I saw, that I saw as a kid, like my mama would let my sister go up to up the hill with this older guy. And my sister would be like, I'm not lying, I think my sister's probably eight, because

we two years apart. So she was no longer older than 10. She was like, that's my boyfriend. And I couldn't understand it because that man was old as fuck. And he would take up the hill and bring her back. And as I got older and I started putting two and two together, I was like, my mama was letting that man mess with her and she didn't try with me because I was really rebellious. I was like, I'm not doing that.

I can tell. Yeah, I'm not doing that. I'm tired of getting my ass dug in. Y'all gonna leave me fucking alone. I need some type of prudence when I meet a good man. But so I saw my mama do that with my sister. And she allowed him to touch us. And I need to, you asked me a question earlier, what was one of my most proudest moment?

And I said my mama, can I re-answer that? I think one of my most proudest moment was when I shot the Miss Pat Show in LA. this moment and I told my husband, I said, one day I'm going to get a TV show. And he was like, yeah, what the hell. And when he came to LA and he saw me shooting Miss Pat Show, and at the end of the second episode, I mean, at the end of the second shoot, I thanked everybody for helping me put the show together. And I looked up at my husband and I said, thank you for allowing me to max out on the show. And I said, I mean at the end of the second shoot, I thanked everybody for helping me put the show together and I looked up at my husband and I say thank you for allowing

me to max out your credit card. Thanks you because I'm mad I tore his ass up. I was stealing them and everything. Thank you for watching these kids. Not only my kids that wasn't yours, the two I had by you and my sister four kids. Thank you for allowing me to put six kids in your life instantly and be there for me. Thank you for saying no, but not really saying no. And my husband bust out crying. And that's the only time I ever seen him cry because I knew he

was proud of me because you know, when I started dating him, his family was like, she's a welfare queen. I had Section 8. I had a lot of food stamps. I wasn't gonna go to work until I fucked around and, I'm sorry, until I fucked around and voted for Bill Clinton and went through the welfare of the work program. He tricked me. But I was lazy. And my husband would always tell me, you're a smart person. Why you like this? And I've told this story 100 times. He gave me outcasts, get up and get out and get some and that motivated me. But I have to thank my husband because without him I wouldn't be here. Because that man went through

a lot with this comedy career. No money, gone all the time. He's watching all the kids, he's getting them up, he's trying to do hair, he's running there after he done worked the 8 to 10 hour shift at General Motors. And never complained. Your original two kids that you had before you met him, you had two kids with him, and you had, if I'm not mistaken, you had your sister kids. I had my sister four kids. Four kids. So that's eight kids. Yes, and we're not even I don't even think we were 25

Miss bad if you don't mind me asking if you can recall what is the ages of these these eight kids? When I met my husband my son was five and my daughter was seven Okay, and then I got my sister four kids Which was all I think it was a baby that was six months Probably a two-year-old or eight year old or seven year that was six months, probably a two year old or eight year old, a seven year old like my daughter, and probably a three year old. So off the back he got six kids. And you wanted more?

Well, I'm from the hood, so I figured, you know, I gotta have a baby by this man. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! I'm not gonna even lie, if I don't have a baby by this man, he's gonna leave

me, but they leave anyway, but he's such a good guy. And when I went to try to get pregnant, I had an abortion that damaged my uterus. And so they was like, your tubes are blocked. And I was like, damn, I can't have no baby by this man. He gonna get tired of me just taking care of all these crack babies. And I ended up pregnant. And then I lose the baby a day before his birthday. And I remember I'm so hard at the time, Shannon, my husband booing, because. And then I lose the baby a day before his birthday. And I remember, I was so hard at the time,

shatting my husband, booing. Because I lose the baby a day before his birthday, I had to give birth. And he's crying and I tell my husband, he's very upset. And I said, dude, don't worry about that damn baby, we can do this shit again tomorrow. He looked at me like, what the hell? But I got pregnant again.

And I have a daughter named Garriana, she's 26. Did, was the reason, can you, if you don't mind explaining why you took custody or took responsibility for your sister's kids? My sister's on crack. Okay. She's still on crack. I have her grandkids now.

Now we're taking care of her grandkids. We've had them for 11 years. So when the defect worker called me and said, if you don't come get them, we're gonna put them in a foster home. And I immediately thought, I can't imagine how these kids gonna grow up. Every child deserves to start off on a solid foundation in this country, in this world. And they might even separate them. Yeah, they might even separate because the baby was six months. So I went and got all four of them and I got back and my husband bags were packed. And I was like, I can't, I can't, I can't choose

between you and these kids. I said, cause I love both of y'all and they need us. And he jumped on top of the car screaming and hollering. He just went on heading Pug and went back upstairs and we 31 years now. Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, James Brown, BB King, Miriam Makeba. I shook up the world. James Brown said, said love. And the kid said, I'm black and I'm proud. Black boxing stars and black music royalty together in the heart of Zaire, Africa. Three days of music and then the boxing event.

What was going on in the world at the time made this fight as important that anything else is going on on the planet. My grandfather laid on the ropes and let George Foreman basically just punch himself out. Welcome to Rumble, the story of a world in transformation. The 60s and prior to that, you couldn't call a person black.

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Listen to 10 takes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. You, um, we're going to expand on that topic, but I read that your mom was physically abusive with you. Yes. Um, when you got out, I guess, whipping, I mean verbally abusive, physically abusive. Yes. So what were some of the things that you would do or did you felt that? Because a lot of times, you know, obviously growing up when we grew up. I'm much older than this pattern. I'm pretty sure I am No, I'm 52 We like me but you know like when you did things wrong in the side you were in South Atlanta South you grew

But you know which is a stitching they didn't play it wasn't no you could talk back or you suck your teeth But you stomp that got you got you whipping Did you ever feel your mom gave you a whipping that wasn't deserved all the time? All the time and my mama was my mama was um, and I was the same way Sometimes I can still get that away, but I have to calm myself down I mean her tongue did more whipping than anything. I was not the prettiest. My sister was beautiful to me. She's about your complex. She had real wavy hair. You know before she got on drugs she was just drop-dead gorgeous. And my mom used to always call me ugly ass. You ugly ass?

Really? And I never thought that I looked like anything because my whole life I was told I was ugly and then coming up through puberty I had really bad acne that nobody did anything about So when I met this 20 something year old man, and he finally said the match words I love you. I fell for it because my whole life. I was told I was ugly I Literally nobody had ever told me I was pretty my sister was always told that she was pretty and she was To hear your mom say you ugly ass, you ugly B knowing that that's probably I mean even though you're a child you know parents shouldn't talk to the child like that. Yeah I made those

mistakes with my kids too. I don't think I would call them ugly but I might say stop being you know I've said some ugly things in the beginning that I still work on to this day and it's a lot of it has to do with with the way I was raised Did you ever talk to your mom and ask your mom why she talked to you like this? Why was she so mean to you? Because what she mean like that to your sister not to me? No, when we had kids when we both had our first kids Cuz my daughter was born August 9th and my sister daughter was born May the 9th, right? And we both had babies back to back by two brothers make a long story short

My mama would never keep my kid, but she would always keep my sister kid. Why? Because she didn't like me. I felt like she didn't love me and I felt like she thought that my my my baby Wasn't pretty as my sister baby my baby wasn't pretty as my sister baby. You know, and so at one point I was scared even trying to leave my daughter with my mama because my mama cared more about my niece than she did my child, that's how I felt. Did that ever cause resentment between you and your sister

because she called your sister pretty, called you ugly. She kept your niece but wouldn't keep your own child. Did that ever cause resentment between you called your sister pretty called you ugly She kept you kept your niece, but wouldn't keep your own child. Yeah, did I ever call resentment between you and your sister? Not me my sister really wasn't never Closed because we got in the streets so early my sister got out into the world doing she's doing you know drugs or whatever and so We really didn't have that sister relationship. That's what I love about the Miss Pat Show because Tammy Roman gave me that sister that I never have. And she don't know how many times I've walked away and just with joy in my heart or tears in my eyes because that's something that I always wanted. And to play

let for her to play my sister on that show, she feels a void in my life. But me and my sister was never, ever. I wanted to help my sister the way it portrayed on the show, but no, I wish. And I've tried to help my sister, like with her grandkids, I tried to help my sister get off drugs, and even now they call me for stuff,

and I just say, I don't have time for y'all. And I don't. I'm not going to waste my money on no crackhead. I'm not you, you know, my sister had an aneurysm this year and she's still smoking crack. Is it difficult for you to say no, nor that is? Look, blood doesn't make you family. Blood makes you related. Yes. Trust, accountability, empathy, compassion. There are a lot of other things that can see make you more family than just being blood related. How difficult it is for you to do this to tell your sister, baby I've done all I can. You got to want to get off this stuff. You got to want to help yourself. Not difficult at all. I said, hell no. I don't play by my money.

I work hard for my money. I leave out their house and jump on the plane every week and come back. My husband is retired. And I said, the last thing I'm going to do is spend my money on you, uncles, and have my husband unretired. Cause I'm out here trying to pull everybody else out of the mud.

I say no to everybody. The answer is no. I'm not going back where I came from. I've seen so many people trying to help their family out of the dirt and then they end up in the dirt with them. So I just said no. I'm done. I've helped who I'm helping and that's it. Is it true your mom used to shoot a gun to get your attention? Yeah. All the time. Did it work? Yeah, we knew she wanted us to come here. Pa-pa, b****. Yeah, but we knew she would,

I never felt like my mom was gonna shoot me. Yeah. Like one time she shot at me when I wanted to get out to find my kid's father, but we knew she was just shooting in the ceiling, you know, cause she liked to shoot a gun. Yeah. You was telling the story early.

Your baby's father, your first one was 22. You started seeing him when he was, when you was 12. You got pregnant at 13, had the baby at 14. And I read, now is this true that, I don't know if it was the first or the second one, that he showed up to the hospital with a new chick? Yes, he did. That's the first baby. Hold on.

And asked her was I ugly? Hold on you have a baby you have his child. Mm-hmm. He shows up to the hospital with a new not his wife or a new not his wife a new one and then asked her, are you cute? Yeah. I'm 14. Yeah. He came by to say hi to me and the baby and I walked him out and she was standing out there.

Yeah, sure did. And I was too young to really even put everything together. Like I had heard he had another girlfriend. And until she started showing up at the house with clothes You know, he would drive her car all the time. And so, you know I'm not gonna say her name because we still friends to this day. Okay, but we ended up raising our kids as cousins We did for years. We raised our kids as cousin. I still talk to it these days, but you know, we realized That he was a piece of it wasn't y'all that the issue it was him

Yeah, did he get i'm sure he got divorced He had he got divorced after I had uh my second child by And then she had a baby by and she ended up getting married and going on with her life But we became friends. Well, yeah, he showed up at the hospital with her. He sure did. He's a poor old dude. Have you always, I shouldn't say this, but you're not attracted to a man prayed he was an older man praying on a child.

I ain't his first underage. He's done that since I've been married to my husband. Yes, he has. Yes, he has. I'm not the I'm not the I'm not his youngest victim either. But you know, back then, and it wasn't right then, it's not right now. Older men, they did things of that nature. Well, I was just in court with him not even five years, not even three years ago for him doing the same thing to his wife's child. He in jail, he got to be. No, he's not in jail.

No, he's not in jail. They called me because they wanted to show that he's a pattern of behavior. And I went to court to testify and he did not go to jail. And I walked out of there and I actually cried because I felt like if they had locked him up, I would have got some type of justice because it's too late for me. Yes. You know, the statutory is over for me. But if they can get him on this kid, it would have been even it I would have you to feel better

Yes, but they didn't and he wouldn't be able to do this to anybody else no You dropped out of school in the eighth grade so basically you got a basically a seventh grade education Why you drop out of school miss best? I had two kids had to take care of I got pregnant again I had their first baby and then I got pregnant I just turned right back around and got pregnant and so I had to take care of him. I got pregnant again. I had their first baby and then I got pregnant. I just turned right back around and got pregnant. And so I had to go to work. My mama got a welfare check and she only gave me what they added to the check, which was

$35, $40. So my mama thought, and this is in 87, I can take care of two kids off $40. What you know you ain't taking, you can barely, you can't even take yourself off $40, let alone two kids, pamper formula. And formula is high now. Back in the day it was like $29 for a case, it's probably $200 for a case now.

But I had to go to work, I had to find a way. So I got in the streets. My kid's father was selling drugs and then he was helping me because he has so many women and babies. And then once he went to jail, I started selling drugs and that's how I took care of my kids. How did you, how did you avoid the temptation that happened to your sister? She got out there in the streets early and she got hooked on the drugs. Is it that you're like, well I can't get high on my own supply if I'm selling, I can't use. I was always turned off. My mama, okay, my mama watched a lot of soap poppers and

she smoked cigarettes like a dude. I mean like weed. She was changed. No, like just holding it like a dude. My mama did everything like she was a lesbian. And it just turned me off, like cigarettes. I would go to school and back in the day they had Smokey the Bear tell you, don't smoke no cigarettes. And so I would come home and my mom would make us light cigarettes and I would burn them up on the side. And everything she did, I knew I didn't want to be.

I mean, everything she did did I just despised it. She drank gin and water, she smoked, she... the only thing I kept was my mom very funny and she cursed and that's the two things I kept from her. But she was she was the most depressed person. That's the first time I ever seen depression. She would say the same thing all the time. Curtis left me. That was my stepdad. And she would say, these crackers holding me back. And I didn't even know white people crackers at the time. I thought she was talking about the Keebler elves. And I just said, I don't want to be like that. She cried all the time,

Shannon. And it's so hard for me to cry. to me when I see I tell my daughters get on me about it all the time. Oh you so hard on your girls I said don't cry it's your weakness and it was like it's nothing wrong with crying yes it is it shows weakness because I looked at a lady who cried all the time and talked about the situation she was in and never did nothing about the situation she's in and never did nothing about the situation she's in. I hate a person who always talking about what they gonna do and ain't gonna do s***. I got friends like that and I let them talk and they always tell me you spontaneous. No, I tell my mind what I'm gonna do because your mind is strong and it controls the body.

It makes the body react. If you say I can get up, I can get up. Keep saying it. You going to get up. Even if it might not be today, it might be tomorrow. But you gotta feed yourself positive stuff. And I can't stand people who say what they going to do. When I say what I'm, I told my husband, I said, I'm going to get me a TV show. Oh, I said, I'm a bill comedian. Pat, you should go work at General Motors. I won't work at General Motors

I'm old-ass people. I won't do no 30 years making no call I don't want to make no call you go work at General Motors He never understood why I didn't want to do that And when I found comedy comedy was healing for me because I could tell these stories with a smile on my face and not be Ashamed and I learned it so many people out there like me And boy, I was like I'm never gonna stop this and I didn't even do it for the money I just did it really Yes hitting that stage and finding other people that been through the things that I've been through and

understanding the pain cuz my husband I was just me my husband just brought this story to me so my kids father used to Beat on me a lot. Shot me in the back of the head and everything. So I would wake up in the middle of the night and crying and fighting. And my husband had to beat the General Motors at five o'clock. And you know, he would try to be comfortable. Oh, it's going to be all right. One night I woke up shitting.

My husband said, look, you need to hit that back because I got to go to work in the morning. I never dreamed he was being on my other side. Hit him back because I'm tired of you waking me up every other night. Whatever y'all doing in that dream, hit that bug back. And I went back to sleep and I never got beat up in that dream again. Wow. The days are warmer, the walks are longer, and one easy way to help your dog shine this season is with fresh healthy food from Farmer's Dog. Farmer's Dog makes fresh real food and delivers it right to your door. Recipes are developed by vet nutritionists made from real meat and veggies and proportioned just for your dog, making it easy to say goodbye to burnt brown balls. Feed your dog real food with real benefits. My Pomeranian Teddy loved this stuff and his

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would curse, she would yell and scream. But inside you can tell she was a broken woman that she was broken. My daddy did to her what she allowed my kids father to do to me. My dad was very abusive and My mom was so beat down. She only had four teeth. I used to think my mom was old. Shut my mama down She was 39 years old. What? 39 years old she had four teeth in her mouth. He knocked him up I don't know who knocked him out. All I know is her fake teeth was in the refrigerator wrapped in a Crocasset and she put him in every nine days. That's all I know. I never asked her, I think she told us that my daddy knocked her teeth out, but she was so beat down.

And when my kid's father was beating me down like that, and I was like, no, you ain't about to milder me. You ain't about to milder me. That was your mom. Yeah, that was my mom now. And I started to fight back. And I remember my kid's father said, I'm gonna knock your teeth out of my mouth. And all I could see is my mom with them two little full teeth at the top of my mouth and they had cavity I was like you got by the hell me walking around looking like that now. I don't mind my side teeth missing Yeah, but you're about to see the front you got a tall. Yeah, I can even disguise my jaws. I just don't got a I don't smile too big But you but my mom was so broken so beat down and I just said a man would never in his life treat me like that again.

Did you have a relationship with your father? My real father came along when I was about 12 or 13 and shows up slapped me and tell him yeah and I beat his ass too his to me my brother beat his ass I mean he that's how you introduce yourself with a slap Well, I didn't know him and he hit me so I hit him back and me and my brother beat him up He told us he was his daddy, but later on and you know, I'm a forgiving person I don't hold grudges and my daddy had multiple myeloma and I got to know him and I took him to Indiana with me and that's where he passed away at and I

never forget when he was dying Shannon because I'm the baby and he was so proud of me. The only time you ever really see me on TV is when I was on Judge Joe Brown suing somebody for damage in my house and so when he was passed, he wanted to see this, but I know he wanted to see this, but he died. Make a long story short, when he was dying, he looked up at me and at this time he couldn't talk. And he just said, thank you. And I said, you don't owe me nothing. And I know he was saying, I never did nothing for you, but you came back and you took care of the man that did not take care of you. I picked my daddy up from Grady Memorial Hospital. Grady Memorial Hospital put my daddy out with no health care. I cut his

leg off wrong and pushed him to the car put him in the car. I put him on a pamper and drove him from Atlanta Georgia to Indian Indianapolis I pulled up at the CVS right over there in Riverdale and then I have no money I wasn't making no money at the time and I said His he needed his diabetic medication and the man was like I was a couple hundred I said sir I don't have it I bust out crying and the pharmacist looked at me and said don't cry. I said I'm taking my data home to Indiana He said I'm gonna fill my prescription and that should be enough for you to get him back on Medicaid Medicare so you can get him a prescription. He gave me his 30 day supply. I drove my data

all the way from Atlanta, Georgia to Indianapolis in my trailblazing pulled over several times and changed his pamper in the back of the car. And he stayed with me for about five or six years. And this is where my career took off. I get a call. God favor. Huh? God favor for what you did. You know, I didn't, I told my daddy, he said,

I know what your mama done told you. I said, stop, we can start over. I said, I don't know. I don't go by what people say about people. Let me get to know you. And I got to know him. And I got a chance to love him, to feel what a father love was.

I already had that stepfather, but you know, that was my stepdad. He stood in for a long time and then my real daddy came along and I got to feel the love that my real daddy had for me. And when he passed away, I had just got a call. My daddy passed, I don't know if this is that day, on a Monday.

That Wednesday I got a call to come go on tour with Cat Williams. And I told my husband, I said, you ain't gonna believe this? He said, what? I said, they told me I'm going on tour with Cat Williams. I get to, I don't even know what's the first city was. I get to the city, we all in a room like this and Cat come in and I'm excited. I don't wanna show my excitement

because I don't really know Cat Williams. And he introduced himself when we talking and he overheard me on the phone. And I'm trying to get my brothers and sisters that my daddy just died. He said, what you doing? I said, my get my brothers and sisters that my daddy just died. He said, what you doing? I said, my daddy died.

He said, your daddy died? I said, yeah, he died Monday. I said, I'm just trying to do his funeral. Do you mind? And he said, no, mom. He went behind a door and came back with a stack of money. And I said, what is this? He said, go bury your daddy and come back.

And I was blown away. It was a couple thousand dollars. My dad had spent his insurance money right before he died. He literally cashed in his insurance pot. I could have kicked his ass. Because you know you got counseling, you die, you gonna cash in your damn life insurance. I'm gonna put him in a potato sack.

He better be thanking Cat Williams because he was about to be potatoes. Let me get this straight. Your father died. Yes. Monday. You get the call you're going on tour with cat. You've never met cat before. You don't know cat. You know who he is but you don't know him like that. You introduce yourself. He walks up to you and you're on the phone and you're talking to your siblings about, okay, dad just died and we need to make arrangements to put him away. He overhears the conversation.

He leaves, comes back and hands you money. A lot of money. He's sitting there, go bury your dad and come back. Yes, I did a show that Friday. That week I flew home, buried my daddy and came back And I tried to pay it back he said you don't owe me nothing So Kat, this is Ben Kat. Ben Kat, I just seen him at the At the Netflix, the guy who owns Netflix went to a party at his house

I always tell him thank you because he didn't have to do that and In this world and this game ain't a lot of people that will do something They something that he won't something back and return at some point time. Are they gonna tweet about it? Yes Are you gonna tell everybody? Oh, I helped you I hate people do that And then people only know this story because I tell him right but for him to bury my daddy a first day And he still paid me, Shannon. He still paid me. He didn't take it out of my pay.

He still paid me. Is that what people, what do people get wrong about Kat? Because people, and I've had a committee vote here, Gary Owen said the same thing that he did in the solid. There have been several people, but there are some out there that don't rock with Cat and don't feel Cat is... What are we missing? I know him on a different level now because after we did the interview, we've been in constant communication. So I know him on a little different level

and been in his presence since we did the interview. What are we missing? What do people don't know about Cat that you want people to absolutely understand about Kat Williams? One of the nicest comics in this game that I ever deal with. I mean, the most caring, one of the most caring. And I don't deal with a lot of people because I'm old. You know, I don't I don't have stories about horrible stories about comedians. I just, you know, live my life, but that I will never forgive because you just could

have told me, I'm going to pay you. But no, you paid for my daddy's funeral. And it was a few thousand dollars. Right. And didn't take it out of your check. Didn't take it out of my check. And if he took it out of your check, you'd have understood. I would have, I didn't expect anything.

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or wherever you get your podcast. When he gave you that money, did you like Lord have mercy this man just met me he don't know me from a can of paint. I said no you don't have to do that I said I'm gonna be okay. I was trying to work it out I mean at the time my husband was at General Motors and I knew I was gonna get paid from him and then we were you know my husband got pretty good credit we was talking about taking out a loan you know all kind of stuff trying to get the city to bury him all kind of stuff. Trying to get the city to bury him, all kind of stuff. Catwalk didn't gave me the money

and changed the whole situation. Wow. Miss, man, I read, man, you used to scam people. Yeah, I used to be a check forger. I was really good at it too. You just steal a blank check, write the person's name on it, and go take it. Well back in the day, my brother, I ain't going to say it, my relative used to be a cat burglar.

Your podcast too big for me to be talking about family members. Motherfucker be trying to sue me, I ain't got time for that crap down. I had a family member that was a professional burglar. So this person used to break in houses, right? And so a lot of times, when you got that street mentality, it stays with you. So back in the day, people get comfortable and throw their checkbooks inside of, you know, the glove compartment. Well, my brother would steal your car and bring me the checks. And so at first I would give them to a crackhead and say, just go get me this and that. And I said, well, what are you doing? Cause I'm curious when it come down to hustling. And that crackhead showed me how to make a fake ID and showed me how I didn't, I tried out

school and I didn't know how to feel like no damn check. That crackhead took me in practice writing checks and signing the person name and so the first time I went out to do it was me and another relative and we ran up in Macy's and Macy's looking like, what are all these niggas doing? They ain't got no money. My niece got locked the hell up. And so I said we got to regroup. We did it wrong. So we came up with a plan. All of us black people don't be running up in no maces. You don't need to go there, but one or two. Yeah, you maces and riches back in the dash.

We got to go in there one at a time. We got to look like, so we can't go in there with no rags on our head. We got to look like we got a job. So we put a plan together. And that's how it all happened. How did you get the name Rabbit? My stepdaddy. He used to tell me, he said if you eat carrots your eyes are going to be pretty.

And I believe that shit. So I like raw carrots. So do anybody call you Rabbit now? I don't like it. You don't like it? Because let me tell you why. Rabbit holds a lot to my past. Not only that, I'm a grown woman, don't call me Rabbit, my name is Pat or Patricia.

Okay. And my one thing about my first kid, my kid's father, he would not call me Patricia. Because to me, that's how he hold on to the control that he used to have in my life. So he refused to call me Pat. What would he call you? He called me Rabbit. He did? He still do and I don't answer. I said don't call me rabbit. Even my friends, I had to train my friends not to call me rabbit. Cause you know Miss Pat Dinosaur, now you get a nickname,

you have to take that thing to the grave. Yeah, but I'm 52 years old. Don't be calling me rabbit. I'm too old to be a rabbit. I'm a grown woman. I'm somebody's mama, grandmama and wife. Don't call, I'm grown. And it holds so much to my name

Holds so much to where I come from. I just don't want to be called it. Did you ever ask him? Why you still call me rabbit? You know, I don't like it. Well, some of my friends I mean Pat Like I was talking about I'm talking about your child's father. Yeah, he's somebody he said he said I don't know Pat I know rabbit, but that's his way of holding on. So every time he hit me through Facebook, I don't fuck with him. Go back to Jiffy Lube and leave me alone. What about you bought a Cadillac? You bought a Cadillac, but you needed a, because you only had a learner's permit.

Yeah, I had a learner's permit. I had several cars at that time. How you, Ms. Pat, you you don't even have a real driver's license. Well, you could go I had a friend that used to take us to the auction, remember the auction here in Atlanta. So you go down there on Stewart Avenue and you buy as many cars as you want to. So I would buy these cars and fix them up and I had a Fleetwood Cadillac when every drug dealer had one and I had a learner's license with a crackhead on a passenger seat because he had a driver's license so I had him in shifts so when the police pulled me over they can't

search the car because I had a licensed driver in the car with me. You always had hustle mentality you always look at what you know what you know what Shannon I wasn't I used to steal but I wasn't big on stealing but when I go in the store I had to catch myself cause that little crazy person in me. You got money in the back and the back of the mind like you know what you protect this. I was at Home Goods the other day and this dude put a $200 rug in my car by mistake and that crazy person in me be like take off with that damn rug and the good person like don't do that you got American Express card so I said sir get the rug out my car that's not my rug but that that is still in me that's the hustle in me so I want to make sure I get this

thing you were shot in the head at 14 mm-hmm got your areola blown off at 15 I got shot twice at you I think I was 15 when I got shot both times. Damn! I know I told God that's a little hit God you gotta tell him to stop shooting me. And bullets are hot. I got shot twice at you I think I was 15 when I got shot both times. Damn! I know I told God that's a little hit, you gotta tell him to stop shooting me. And bullets are hot, they burn after.

Did you know he had shot you in the head? Yeah, he shot me and left me in the house. And I was so young and dumb, I called my friend, I was like, he shot me girl, come over here. She get over there and it cracked my skull and I'm bleeding and stuff. Excuse me. What are you shooting with a 22? 38? Yeah, 38. Small count. Yeah, but still People have been killed with 22s and 38s. Yes, they have yes they have and so I Really Shannon I'm gonna be honest with you. This is how stupid I was when he shot me. I thought he I was like that's love Cuz my mama told me if a man don't beat you he don't love you what yes so every black eye was a hickey on my neck

until one day I watched what's love got to do with it and I was like I ain't taking no more whooping and I'll never get when I first started fighting them back my cousin my cousin boo was in the back She's like hit him back hit his ass back. You know how your cousin I'm I'm fighting my kid's father. He hit me right here between my eyes and black both my eyes and she laughs her ass When he when your father's father shot you said originally it wasn't his fault because you just didn't duck fast enough. You know what?

I wanted to make it out of a joke. And it was so hard to hear that a woman had been shot and abused. And people said, oh my God. And I was like, how can I make this funny? It's funny to me. And so one day I was on stage and I said, it wasn't his fault, it was my fault, I ducked slow. Did, I mean, did he just, I mean, did you not, I mean, did he walk up behind you?

Did he go get the gun? He came over and I was over with a guy. They were, they got the fighting and stuff. And then he hit me with the gun and the gun went off. Oh, okay. And then he ran. Okay. He ran. So you was over there with another guy.

At my house. He had to come over. Okay. Okay. And so I ran. Okay. He ran. So you was over there with another guy. At my house. He had to come over. Okay. Okay. And so I called my friend and when I called my friend she came over and I was bleeding. And then we called an ambulance and I get in front back of the ambulance just talking. I'm 15 young and dumb and they looking at me like, bitch why you ain't dead?

And so they cut all my hair off and make sure my brain didn't swell and and then I went I got out of the hospital and I went to the Tone Low concert. Funky Cold Medina. Yes. With a whole bullet wound in the back of my head. You tell him you what now till this app you get shot again. No you shoot somebody you shoot. I shot him. Him in the leg. Yes. you go to pick him up from the hospital. Mm-hmm. There's another chick there He's not the baby mama baby mama and I run over in the parking lot I sure did because I shot you so I can take care you Yeah, that's how crazy I was

you Yeah, that's how crazy I was But that's when you were that's when you think Abusive love yeah, and it's not cuz we did a lot to each other. I mean, I mean I Told a story about him. He skate all the time. He hit me my head with us to stop on the skate I don't know if you've ever seen a star that ain't no gil They don't and I hit his with iron I mean was always just fight black eyes you know, shooting at him and he shooting at me. I'm just thankful that I ain't dead.

How did you finally decide, enough of this BS. I'm done with this. I'm done with him. I'm moving on because I know there's something bigger and better for Patricia. I always tell people this is before Ciara the singer ever saw ever prayed that prayer for her husband Russell. I prayed to God and I said Lord I'll never forget it I don't get on my knees for nothing I mean no sexual move for nothing because it's hard for me to get up. And God knows I'm lazy. I'm going to pray on my side. I got on my knees and I said, Lord, I'm not asking you to change him.

I'm asking you to change me. I said, I don't want to hate him. But the love that I have and the desire that I have for this man, I ask you to remove it because it's no longer healthy for me. And I'll never forget that. I said said but I don't want to hate him Lord, I Went to sleep and woke up and did not care nothing about him the next day And I remember two days later he came over and tried to like have sex with me nothing

I met my husband that same week. I did their prayer It was honestly that is what I told God. I said God I don't I just want you to remove what was was keep drawing me to him like cocaine take it out of me and he took it out of me and I never ever went back and people would always say rabbit ain't gonna never leave him rabbit ain't gonna never leave him. Baby I woke up one day I went from being a little girl to a grown woman and he didn't know how to accept it. Did he ask what's wrong with you? Why all of a sudden now you don't want to do we we've done this for X amount of years or how long you've done it. What changed? I told him I didn't love him anymore. Did y'all get to fighting again? No, because I ended up I ended up with my uh

husband. So at the time I'm forging chicks and I tell my husband to come over to my apartment and watch my kids and stuff. How old are you at this time if you don't mind me asking that? Seventeen. Okay. And so I've got an apartment. It's in my dad's name. My husband started to come over.

My boyfriend at the time started to come over. And he was not my type. You know, my husband is a bigger guy. My kid's father is really skinny like Dave Chappelle. So I never really dated a thick guy like that. But he he was so intelligent. And this gonna sound stupid. But this is when I knew I didn't have a nigger and I had a man. I walked in one day and he was watching Seinfeld and I said, what the hell you watching that white show for? He said, this is a really good show. You should sit down and watch. I'm a hood chick. And he said, sit down and watch it. And I was like, wow, this is funny. Not really my type of funny, but he just started to introduce me to different things and

you know I didn't have to worry about being called no no no you know I didn't have to get get talked down to he was opening the doors for me and most women would take that as being weak but it was something that I always wanted. I'm gonna tell you a story about my kid's father. One time we was riding in the car and my car ran out of gas right there off of Bankhead and we were riding down Bankhead, the car ran out of gas and it's raining. So my kid's father used to suck his thumb and I said, you ain't gonna go to the gas station? He said, no, I ain't about to tell you not to get no gas. I get out the car Shannon and I'm walking maybe a mile to the no gas. I get out the car, Shannon, and I'm walking, maybe a mile to the gas station.

You get out the car, walk in the rain to get gas. Yeah, I get out the car, I get out the car and I walk a mile to the gas station. That should have ended it for you right there. I was too stupid. Let me tell you what happened. So I'm walking in the rain, and it ain't rain, it pouring rain. That should have ended it for you right there. I was too stupid. Let me tell you what happened.

So I'm walking in the rain and it ain't rain, it pouring rain. This older man pull up next to me and say, young lady, let me take you to the gas station. And I'm kind of scared to get in the car with the older man. Take me to the gas station, pay for the gas. I get, he take me back to my car and that old man seen my baby daddy sitting that car. He went the hell off He said you mean to tell me this young punk sitting in the car and got you walking in the rain You young girls are stupid my kids father sitting in the first seat laughing That started to wake me up

So when I met my husband and he was why he wasn't watching no So when I met my husband and he was why he wasn't watching no crap like I was used to my kids father And he first man I ever seen with a credit card He the first man that ever talked to me about finances and credits and that stuff was just attracted to me Oh, they attracted me to him because I wasn't used to that I was used to somebody calling me ugly beating on me calling me. I'm like, yes and so I was like, I ain't really into, this ain't really my type, but I'm gonna hold on to this and see where we go.

You say you meet your current husband, you're 17, but if I'm not mistaken, you went to jail at 18. No, no, no, I got out of jail at 17, so I'm about 18. So you got, what'd you go to jail for? Crack. You selling? Yeah, so I'm out with 19. So, when I met my husband, I probably was 19 because I got, I went to jail at 17. Back then, you can go to jail at 17. So, I got out at 18 and then I met him. You me get the ages right. It's been 30 something years. I want to know the exact moment that you knew this is my forever man. When he told me, when I lived in that apartment and I was getting evicted because I ain't never like paying no bills.

Apartment is my family. I got evicted all the time. And so I said, take me to my dad's house so he put the apartment back in my name. My husband looked at me, boyfriend and tell him, he said, look, I put the apartment in my name. And I said, what? And then I said, you going to move in with me? He said, uh-uh.

I said, well, I can't pay the rent. He said, okay. Now mind you, I had never had sex with this man. He was just coming over all the time, you know, hanging out and stuff like that. This man go and put a whole apartment in his name, a whole apartment and move me and my two kids into some security, paid the rent, paid the bills. And he looked at me and said, I want you to do one thing for me. And I said what?

He said stop selling crack and stop forging checks. And I gave my niece my last little bit of crack and I threw away the checks. And that was hard because that was so hard, Shannon. That was an easy money hummus pack. I had to go work at McDonald's for $4.25 an hour. But then I'm a hustler so now I'm stealing out of the ratio but I ain't really telling him because he was just so cut dry honest. And I'm like you know what back in the day and what women would consider now to be lame

because that's the word reused and I'm like, my husband's lame as hell. He ain't breaking no laws, he ain't got no speeding ticket, he ain't doing nothing. And so I'm like, I'm a still, I can't just come up here and work every day for no $4.25. I got two kids at the house. And then we had just got custody, we had just got my sister kids, so I got six kids.

I gotta get this money. So I was up there telling McDonald's a new ass every day. Ooh baby, I just came out of the drug game so I can count real fast with money. I can count backwards. They didn't change, oh, I can count. So baby, that's what I did. They coming up short every night.

No they didn't, because you promo it. That was a way on that register that you can get away around it. Yeah, oh you took the money and slip it up on, you took the chain and slip a way on that register that you can get away around it. Yeah. Or you took the money and slip it up on, you took the change and slip it up on the register. So when you ring it up, you just clear it out and you get the people their money back. Because back then people weren't using a lot of credit cards. Right.

They were using cash. They were using a lot of cash. And that's what I did. And you know, to me, I had to get two jobs and it still didn't make up for what I was, the money that I was making in the streets. But I did it because I had a stable place for my kids to stay. I had somebody in my life that cared about me and I didn't want to blow it, you know, trying to hustle in the streets. Because he had took me forging checks and selling dope as long as he could. Because the man ain't never been to jail

And he told me one day he said hey, I don't have these ain't my kids. What happened when you go to jail They gonna give your kids better than me And so he just started to make me realize you know Pat you can make it without doing all how did he know you how did he know you were selling crack in forging? Checks, did you tell him or did he saw you? I knew his brother. I knew his brother. So his brother knew I was selling crack and forging checks

and I was a hustler. But he said, but he didn't try to change you. He didn't beat you down. He didn't say, look, if you don't do X, Y, and Z, I'm up out of here. He said, look, I'm gonna get you this place. I'm gonna put my name on the lease. All I ask you to do is stop selling crack and start forging these checks. Yeah, that's what

he knew that was so then now he's like, why are you doing all this? You want me to be your girl? You want you try to what you what's your what's your what's your angle here? Well, we was living together. So, you know, we was we was actually living together. So, I knew he was actually living together. So I knew he wanted me to be his girl. Right. And I just said, you know, I would talk on the phone with my girlfriends and stuff. And I knew I had something different. I knew it was nothing like seeing a black man go to work and come home and treat you the way you're supposed to be treated. You

know, saying nice things to you. I mean, he started to, he brought me back to life when so many people before him had killed me on the inside. You know, he fed me positive things when I was down and low, you know, he would talk me out of it. There was one time in my whole life I ever thought about committing suicide because I checked my criminal background history. I went to school for medical assistant and I checked my criminal background history. I went to school for medical assistant and I checked my criminal background history and they just kept, they wouldn't give me no job because I had too many felons on my record. And they was like, no. And I was like, what am I living for?

What am I living for if I can't get a decent paying job other than a fast food restaurant to feed my family or to help you out? He was like, Pat, it's more to you than that. And I just had to, I just started to dig inside of myself and to find out who I really was. But it was, it was all the help of him. I mean, that man picked me up when I was at my lowest. He, my husband went to the military. You know, my husband graduated high school. He never threw up in my face, bitch, you got, I mean, baby, you got an eighth grade education. You know, I've always felt safe with him.

I'd be like, how you spell can C A N and don't keep it moving. Damn, you can't spell can. He ain't never not one time ever. He ever said that. The Emirates NBA Cup is here. You can win big getting in on the action at DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NBA. All 30 teams split into 6 groups every Tuesday and Friday, playing for the right to advance into a single elimination in-season tournament culminating in the NBA Cup Championship in Las Vegas. First time, here's something special

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I never got counseling. I think comedy was my counseling. Honestly, that's where I started to tell the stories of growing up in a bootleg house, being molested, being shot. The comedy audience healed me. And when I got the Miss Pat Show, and my co-creator, this boy just crazy, Jordan

E. Coop, we just started to dig in my life and tell these stories. And it's so many times I've cried on that set, but as so many times I've, season one, my kid's father, I finally get to tell him off, how I feel. I mean, it's acting but still Jordan knew how important that was to me. And I remember getting in that car, leaving that seat on boat route road here in Atlanta. And I boo-hooed because that was a door that I had closed that needed to be open. And my co-creator and my cast helped me open it. And I cried so hard because all I ever wanted to do was tell him what he did to me and how I really felt. And I got to do it through acting.

And even with my mom, you know, we did an episode on my mom on the show and I was able to, you know, my mommy's call me nappy head, ugly and stuff like that. And I was able to, you know, my mom used to call me nappy head, ugly and stuff like that and I was able to do an episode and that was another time I rolled home crying. So through comedy and through the Miss Pat Show, do I need counseling? I probably do. Let my kids tell it, yes I do. I still got some stuff that I need to work out. Am I a perfect mom? No, I'm not. And one thing

I always tell my oldest daughter who's 38, I think, 36 or 38, I always tell her, I said, you got to understand that I was 14. I made a lot of mistakes with you and your brother. But one of the things I want you to always know is that I love y'all. And I did the best that I could do. I never gave you up. You never was molested because when I had my daughter on August 9th, 1986, I said in that bed holding her, I said they would never do to you what was done to me. And when my daughter went out to college and she's called me, she said, you know what mama, all my friends been touched and I feel bad cuz I'm the only one

That ain't got no molestation story, and I knew I had done my duties Now did I know she was gonna be down at college eating all the women? She gays hell baby, she don't eat you, you won't be eight. This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two is also posted and you can access it to whichever podcast platform you just listened to part one on. Just simply go back to club Shasha profile and I'll see you there. Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, 1974.

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