Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Neil deGrasse Tyson Part 1

Episode Date: June 3, 2026

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episode of Club Shay-She. If you're in Beverly Hills, come by for a drink in this elegant lounge. Now onto today's episode. Stopping by for conversation in a drink today, he's the protege. He's one of the most brilliant and respected and influential minds of this generation. He's a renowned science communicator, famous for popularizing astronomy and astrophysics bridging the gap between complex scientific concepts and the general public. He has a BA in physics from Harvard, a PhD in astrophysics from Columbia, and he also took a job. He also taught at Princeton, a highly intelligent educator, the accomplished director, and an Emmy-winning executive producer and acclaimed television host,

a popular narrator, a sought-after public speaker, an influential entertainer, and a prolific writer. His book just debuted, number three on the New York Times best-selling list. He's awarded the NASA Distinguished Public Service Medal, a science icon, Neil de Gras, Tyson. I've got to live up to all of that. You already have. I would hate to come back here in five, six years,

You can have to read this again. Just keep going. All right. Well, thank you for that very warm introduction. Thank you so much. And now we just got the news before we started taping that your new book, take me to your leader, just debuted at number three on the New York Times bestseller. I learned that five minutes ago.

Five minutes ago. Just that. We learned it together. So you know what? Here you go. We're going to toast. This is my cognac. Shade by Laporteier.

You got it. It's a VSOP. It's your conscience. It's actually my congen. Okay. We're going to send you away with something. Oh, I could do that. Thank you so much.

All right. Mm. VSO. Very special old. Very special old pale. Pail. VSOP. Yes.

There you go. Yes. It drinks like an ex-o, though. Thank you for stopping by. All right. It is such an honor to have someone as brilliant as you are to help us to help explain maybe the unexplainable. Well.

Yeah. I mean, if you're a scientist and you operate on the frontier, Okay. Half of what you're looking at doesn't have an explanation yet. Wow. That's the whole point. If you're, their research science community,

they've got one foot in what is known. Right. Ideally. And then one foot in what, if you both feet, you don't want to put both feet out. Right. You don't want both feet in the other foot.

Because then you just float away. Okay. So one feet in what is known, then anchors your understanding. Okay. And then you tiptoe out there and see what's new to be discovered. So when news headlines say,

oh, scientists have to go back to the drawing board on this. We're always at the drawing board. It's a misconception that we're sitting with their legs up, basking in a mastery of the universe. Okay. No, no. Yeah. So when someone says something's the best left unexplained,

when you hear that, what do you say? Said no scientist ever. In fact, if we see something that has no explanation, we're drawn to it. Right. It's a magnet. You're trying to figure out why, why? That's, that is, that's, so there's a famous line. Okay.

The, the German poet Rainer Maria Rilke, wrote a book called Letters to a Young Poet. Okay. And I'm going to mangle it a little bit, but I'll get it mostly right. It says, be at peace with all that stirs in your heart. Learn to love the questions themselves. Mm. And you can love the questions, but that means if you're a sense, if you're a question, you're scientists, you want to figure it out, and then another question pops up.

Right. Right. So you love the sequence of questions that are the product of research that gives you a new place to stand and new vistas, okay, to see beyond the walls that used to be there. Take me to your leader. Tell us about this book. It's aliens, and I want to talk to you about that because for the longest time, we have this or what has been drawn or what has been presented to us or what an alien is and what it looks

like. Right. And so you're here to explain, offer us a better explanation. of what actually aliens are if they exist, and are we going to meet them or have we already met them? I'm not authorized to comment first. No, no. So I tried to stay out of it for the longest time,

just because it's too messy. Okay. And what I mean by the longest time? Over the decades, you heard these reports, Flying Saucers, abductions. Yes. And it was the farmer in the back 40 reporting this. It was the revelers.

After the bar, let out. It was, there was plausible deniability of the sanity of who was giving the report. Okay. Now, UFO enthusiasts were eager to gather as much of this information as they could. And even UFO enthusiasts recognize that most sightings of UFOs have a natural explanation. Okay. And I'm looking up at the sky all the time since I was nine years old. Okay.

All right. So I know about the sun, moon, stars, planets. And I also know about weather patterns because weather interferes with my sky. So I'm going to know whether weather's coming and going, what it looks like, what it smells like, what it feels like. And I've never seen anything I couldn't explain. Even though a few things, I could only explain given the extensive knowledge that I have. Right. Which tells me that for most people without that extensive knowledge, that would get reported to the police. Okay.

Okay. And so only in the last maybe eight years or so, let me put the marker where the New York Times reported on that fuzzy tic-tac that the naval officer, the Navy pilots found. Right. And you hear them commenting, oh, my gosh, what is that? We're tracking it. Right. Okay. And you feel their excitement.

Right. And it's a little bit, I don't want to call it fear, but. They don't know, right? They're in a state of unknown. So from then onward, more sort of official-sounding people have come forward. Yes. In the last three years, we have whistleblowers, insiders, ex-military, ex-intelligence agencies. And they're reporting in Congress sworn testimony that they got crashed alien bodies in the back shed, that they've got crashed saucer hardware.

in the back, that they've got reverse engineered science and technology from the alien. They're testifying to this. And so I said, all right, it's time for me to step in. Okay? I wanted to do a couple of things. I wanted to celebrate this fascination we have with aliens in all of our movies. Yes. I mean, you know, do you realize that half of the top ten?

10 grossing movies of all time involve non-Earth-based creatures. At the top of the list is, of course, what, ET is okay. I don't know it's the top 10, but that's another example. Avatar, it's aliens, okay? And so we love us some aliens in this culture. So I wanted to give a serious analysis

of the powers and the technologies that these aliens that have come out of our imagination. Okay. And then ask if actual aliens came to Earth, could they have these abilities and these technologies and how smart would they be? You can give a serious analysis of that. So now, what do you conclude? Well, we're still in a situation where you have to ask the person, do you believe in aliens? Mm-hmm.

Okay? Right. But let me ask you this. Do you believe in elephants? Your answer would be, that's not even the right question. Right. They just exist. Yes.

Because you've seen them. I've seen them. In person. Correct. Okay. Yes. Okay. But think of how that would go in testimony.

Mm-hmm. There's only a couple of dozen people who've ever seen an elephant. Right. And you've got to believe me. They've got this big rubbery thing that's flexible. Right. It can pick stuff up. It smells.

It eats. Right. Two teeth sticking out. Right. That's shiny and it's got sheet-sized. ears and it's got legs the side of the tree trunks and can you draw one and then because the drawing is always crappy right and he'd say what is this thing you gotta believe me right you can make a two-hour documentary of testimonies about that right if only a few dozen people have

done it even if 50 people have done it but the documentary is 10 minutes long right if they just bring out the elephant correct five minutes to bring out the elephant and five minutes for the rolling credits right and nowhere after the does anyone have to say you believe in elephants. Right. And the elephant is not the only creature for which you could have this crazy conversation. You got to believe me, there's this creature in the sea. The woolly mammoth, the saber-tooth, the tiger.

I do better than that. Those are just mammals. Yeah. Okay? Let's do better than that. There's this creature in the sea. It has eight legs, and each leg has suction cups on it. And it's squishy, and it's really smart, and it can open jars.

And it could open doorknobs, and one variety of them has a camouflage. Yes. And they can disappear into the thing. You got to believe me. No, I need another witness. And another witness give a slightly different account. I need you to draw it. And they draw it, and it's this weird thing.

And it's an octopus. So in other words, just bring out the octopus. The lock nest monster would be considered an alien. Because a few people have seen it. They seem to have photographs. It's in this one big pool of... Fuzzy photograph. Fuzzy photograph.

So normally, if we really wanted to know that bad, we just, if there ain't a possible way we could drain. Not to drain it, to drag the lake. Okay. Okay. Lock Ness. Yes. Because it's Nessie is the name, it's the creature. Okay.

Yeah, drag, we drag the lake for bodies. Yes, all the time. Okay, okay. If you think people would dumping bodies into your river. Right. So you could do this or do it with sonar, this kind of thing. That's a different field called crypto zoology. Okay.

These are people who are not looking for aliens. They're looking for species of life on Earth that has eluded the search of biologists. Oh. So that would, so no, Bigfoot would be one of them. Okay. And there's a, if you type Bigfoot, video's a Bigfoot. Yeah. This is one famous video where this like ape like creature, he like turns and looks to the side.

Did I give you a good photo? Did you want to give you a good photo? Yeah, you want me to smile? What I do? So, so, but that film is 60 years old. Right. And I think it was done in the 1960s. Right.

And it's, okay, anybody else have it? Right. And back then, who had cameras? Right. Journalists and tourists. Correct. You didn't walk around with a camera. No.

And we're old enough to remember. There was a day you were only photographed once per year. Yes. And what was that? It's a little crazy. The school photo. Yeah, school photo. You got your school photos.

It may be your birthday. Yes. Okay? Yes. That's it. Everybody's got a camera today. Yes. So to have less evidence for Bigfoot, when we have more cameras, that's just a little suspicious.

Well, maybe they don't like the paparazzi. Okay. So we could go down that road. I would say, bring it, bring it. Okay. So somewhere I think you'd find Bigfoot poop. Why wouldn't you? Okay?

Now you'd have to say, well, they clean up after them. Okay, wait. So where's Lady Bigfoot? Because it looks awfully mammalian to me. Yes. Somebody's having sex somewhere in the woods. You'd be hearing that, okay? So it's easier to see that a microbe would go undiscovered.

Right. Or some smaller creature in some backwoods that no one had been before. And we are discovering species annually. In fact, one was, you kindly mentioned I have an asteroid named after me. I also have a species of animal named after me. It's a species of leaping frog that's found only in India. Only recently, like the last 15 years, was described sufficiently enough to declare it a species. Right.

The researchers were very kind and respectful of my education, my academic and educational career. They'd seen Cosmos and that hosted Cosmos. And so, anyhow, the point is, If only, if people only have it have fuzzy photos, and it's their testimony, you're stuck saying, do you believe in it? Right. The NBA finals are here, but the action doesn't stop when the confetti falls. And the NBA crowns are championing because the star studies scorching summer of sports.

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this. You've got to swear to secrecy. Nobody knows about this. But these aliens that we've been telling you about we have two bodies. Okay. And we want you to examine them And we want you to give us your best guess, your best, your academia, highly. Okay. What is this that we see?

Okay. Do you know what I'd say? I would say, I'd love to see the bodies, but get a biochemist. Okay. I'm an astrophysicist. Okay. I'd be happy to look at their spacecraft if you've got that. But if there's a flesh, if there's an organism.

They Uber down. Uber flag saucers. That's a hell of a business right there. I want the early shares in that one. So here's the thing. How many other people know this secret? I would ask that question. Right.

And give me any number. Okay? And what people have been claiming, it would be a big government cover-up. Yeah. Like hundreds, if not thousands. Yes. You know what Ben Franklin said.

What do you say? In his almanac. 1785, I think. Three people can keep a secret. If two of them are dead. He said dead. And so he's referring implicitly to juicy secrets. Yes.

Like aliens. Yes. If it's some stupid secret no one cares about, then who cares? But aliens? Yeah. In Area 51, I'm thinking if the janitor just has to take a picture of the alien and stream it out. lose his job that morning, that next day.

Yes. But it'll be the richest, most famous janitor there ever was. So where did these illusions come from? How did Hollywood come up with an illusion? Because if you think about it, they kind of all look the same. None of them ever have hair. They're all bald. Why are they bald?

Answer me. You answer me. I wouldn't want to come in his hair or Afro pick. You know, give me. They don't small. Give me some body hair. Yes. Because all mammals have body hair and they're humanoid.

Right. You know? So who, to the best of your recollection, who was the first person to come up with this theory that, and it's, it's, you know, a lot of people, and I think I've heard you say it that we're not alone, that there are others in the universe. In the universe. In the universe. No one's denying that. Okay. That's correct. Well, damn, how do we know that?

We'd never seen them? No. So, that's true. But you've never really seen air either. No. You're breathing it. Yes. And its existence is not doubted by you.

Okay. Okay. The other things you know, like, if there's drugs in a rap package, you don't smell it, but your dog does. Right. So your senses are not the measure of reality. Oh, okay. Okay. The stuff that exists, with or without.

So the tree falling in the forest and no one there is to hear it, we know it makes a sound. Okay. I first asked, how do you know it fell? Because I told you to you. No, because you went out there and saw it. Well, I saw it. down. Okay. Right. Okay. Can we deduce that? I'm saying it would make, if I had a chart recorder out there, I don't need your ears. Yes. It would record the sound. Yes. Yes. Okay.

So, so seeing can be believing, but seeing can also be deceiving. And that's why we invented science. The methods and tools of science have machines that make measurements. Right. And that's what they do. And why they do it so that it doesn't pass through your sensory understanding of the world. Okay. Okay? And like I said, before we had cameras, it all passed through your senses.

I was abducted, and either they told you that or it came out under hypnosis, but your brain is participating in that story. We don't want that in science. So in other words, under duress, and we've seen, especially under duress. Because there are scientists that say that sometimes under the rest,

you can see things that you don't actually see or hear things you don't actually hear. There are visual and acoustic allusions. That's correct. And it also depends on your expectations, what your culture is. Oh. What your, all of this factors in. I got one for you.

Jesus on a tortilla. Okay? You know who never sees Jesus on a tortilla? Or Jewish people. Okay. I'm just saying. Right. Okay?

There's cultural expectations placed on your world. That can influence your data taking. And I just want to say that while that can explain most, possibly all, but certainly most of the sightings, I'm happy to allow that small percent that could be actual aliens. Right. I'm not going to say no. You're not going to totally dismiss it. No, but I need better evidence. Right.

And a colleague of mine was tasked, was it by Congress or by NASA, to get a group of people together. to analyze the claims of alien sightings and things. Right. They didn't see anything convincing, but they do want people to get better data. So they're going to create an app where next time you see something? Right.

You put it through the app, and the app takes the picture with your smartphone. And it records all the metadata. What is your longitude and latitude on Earth? Your elevation, your direction, your compass pointing, your lighting conditions. And then if other people saw the same phenomenon,

it can collate the data and triangulate. on what the object is, how big it is, where it was going, where it was coming from. Very hard things to determine in twilight for an object that you've never seen before. So in other words, you believe everything can be explained. Anything that we see in today's world can be explained. No, no, I didn't say that. What I'm going to say is the frontier of science, yes, depends, expects. There are always something that you can't explain.

Always. Really? That is what the moving frontier of science is. That is the loving the questions themselves. Okay. I don't know what this is, but that's a reason to investigate it further. Right. Here are those few observations we don't know what it is.

Yes. Get this app, which I think they're still working on, if it's not available already, and get your data through this app. Okay. And then that can be collated with other people's data to get more information to figure out what it is. Are humans, the original alien? It looks like we are of this earth because we share the same DNA at some level with all other life on earth, including plants. Really?

Yes. In fact, we... Follow the cactus? We and a banana shared 20, 25% identical genes. Humans and bananas. What? So if an alien comes and it doesn't have our DNA or doesn't have DNA at all. Right.

You'd expect it to look at least as different from humans as humans and bananas look from each other. Correct. You'd expect that. It's from another planet. I would absolutely. On this planet, most stuff does not look human. Yes. On this planet.

And so, here's one for you. You ready? Don't freak out. Okay. Are you seated? I'm seated. The common ancestor, this is how evolution works. You have common ancestor.

Yes. So we and chimps have a common ancestor that split. later than its common ancestors split with gorillas, which split later than its common ancestor split with old world monkeys that have tails. Okay. It's all primates. Yes.

But there's a branch that went off and had tails. A branch that does not. Okay. We're in the branch that does not have tail. It's apes, baboons, chimpanzees, gorillas, that thing. Okay. Humans. All right.

Here's my point. For any two creatures on earth, you can go far enough back and find the common ancestor. Okay? Do you realize the common ancestor between humans and mushrooms split later than its common ancestor split with green plants? Which means we and mushrooms are more genetically alike than either we are mushrooms are to green plants. Damn. You've had a, like a portabella mushroom. When you bite into it, how do people describe it?

I hate frog houses. I don't, I don't fool with mushrooms. You don't mess with mushrooms? Well, if you ask people who have, they'll say it tastes meaty. As you bite into it, it has a meaty kind of taste. Said no one ever of kale. Okay. Yes.

Okay. Mushrooms love us. Yes. Yeast are mushrooms are fungus. Yes. Fungus loves us. Yes. Your dandruff is fungus.

Yes. The yeast infections. Ringworm is fungus. Yes. People ingest mushrooms and they have conversations with mushrooms. So give me an alien that looks like a mushroom. I mean, why they all got to look human? So in other words, going back millions and millions of years ago,

the common DNA, say you have chimpanzees, monkeys, so forth and so on. Yes. We split from them. Yes. But we split from a mushroom Earlier or later? Oh, much, much earlier. Okay.

Much, much earlier. Okay. Because there's a lot that happened in between there. Okay. We have to become fish first. Okay. Our vertebrate, because we have a spine, our vertebrate ancestry goes through the ocean and to fish.

So what's the biggest cause of evolution? Because you say we split from fish and fish are still able to be in water, they can breathe in water, so forth and so. Now we had to have the adaptability to be able to, we learn how to walk upright, we learn how to do all these other things. So how does evolution take place? How does that happen? It's a great question. A lot of people don't fully get this, okay? In evolution, no organism adapts to anything. What happens is there's a generation of them that have slightly different features.

Some of the longer, some of those shorter, some of little chelder, some of little chelder. some a little this, some a little that. And then there's an assault on the environment. Usually, everybody dies. Yes. The dinosaur. Unless there's a feature among

one in this generation that can step through that new portal. Okay. So they step through. Everybody else dies. They have a property that enables them to thrive in that environment. So now they have offspring with that property.

in that new environment. Is that what happened when, because they say some microorganisms and some animals can reproduce without having a male part? So it's spermatogenesis. Yes. That's an example.

I think that's what you're referring to. I think roaches can do this, which helps make them so successful. Yes. Right? There's some animals where if they don't have a mate, they can nonetheless generate the zygote. And so I don't understand that process fully biologically.

Okay. But we know it happens. Yes. And it's definitely a survival property. Yes. And so you are more likely to propagate your offspring if you can do that. Yes. Because someone else got high and dry, couldn't find a mate.

Right. And it was gone. So when you hear, because I've heard this so long, it's so long, and I don't know if it's true. And you got me questioned to myself and whether whoever said it, that the greatest trick to survival is adaptability. And you says no one adapts, you just have to. The feature is already there if you have it at all. Otherwise, everybody dies. Okay.

Evolution is a giant killing machine. Damn, I can't even know. 99% of all species there ever was. Yeah. Are now extinct at the hand of nature. Everyone says, oh, earth is so beautiful. It's so green. It's no life.

Mother nature, be kind to Mother Nature. Nature is killing you. every chance it can get. Okay? And if it's not if it's not from some change in the environment, right. It's from a tsunami, an earthquake,

a volcano, a pestilence, plague, drought. Yes. Mother Nature don't plague. To control population. War, plague, famine. Okay. More people on earth.

Do you know the greatest monster responsible for human deaths? We're up there. We're up there. We're up there. Because we will kill each other. Mosquitoes? Mosquitoes. Yes. Have killed more people than any other creature on earth.

Yes. Malaria, right? Among others. Now you got Zika and now you got... Zika and Dengay. Yes. More than anything else on earth. That is our biggest threat. Yes.

Not anymore because we pretty much control that. Right. But in the day, in the day. So, yeah, this... We're alive in spite of... nature and not because of her. How is saying? How?

So back to the alien point, the aliens might be intrigued about evolution on Earth, which is what responsible for the diversity of life, they might be intrigued by that. I don't know on their planet how different everybody is. Who knows? How are humans created? So how do we, so you say we branched off because we had this, we, we humans, life form, as we know it now, branched off. from a lot of different things.

So the best evidence today suggests that we were happy in the trees, like other primates. Yes. Then it was climate change. Yes. And the forest went away. Okay.

We came down out of the trees. Now we're in the grasses. But if you're dragging your knuckles in the grasses, you can't see a predator. Right. Like the lion. Yes. So you want to be able to look above...

What's that creature that was in, the Lion King, the Mirkat. Yes. Okay? Yes. If you're low to the ground, you don't see somebody coming around the bend. Correct. Okay?

So there was a survival advantage to walking upright. Upright instead of on all fours. Correct. If you couldn't walk upright for whatever, because your back hurt. Yes. Then you got eaten. Right. You remove from the gene pool.

I walk up and I don't hurt. Okay. I have offspring where they can walk upright and they don't hurt. Right. Then there was a mutation to our vocal cords that enabled us to articulate speech. Right. Okay, the other apes don't have this. It was a mutation that proved to be helpful.

So now we can communicate. And now we can remember information. How do we do that? We learned information is stored better if it's rhythmic. In our... That's an interesting fact. Right. You remember some words or sentences better than others

because there's some rhythm to them. Correct. Right. There's something easier. You know, why do we like music at all? Right. Because it's a way of communicating in a way that you enjoy.

That enables us to share survival knowledge with others. You said, walking with your knuckles, dragging the ground, you couldn't see over the hurrah, you couldn't see over the tall grass, or you couldn't see over, and then predators. But didn't it give you the ability to be able to hear, to be able to smell? because some animals that can't see beyond,

they can hear extremely well. They can have an incredible sense of smell. The smell wasn't in our genes. It wasn't. If it was, then we'd be able to smell the lion, you know, the way a dog can. Yeah. Okay. Dogs never walked on all fours.

So they have a way better capacity to smell than we do. Okay. Put them in the grass. They're going to smell your ass. Okay? So, so, um, yeah. So our, plus we have a, relatively good vision.

Yes. All right, we have binocular vision, so our depth. But not like other animals. We had the bottom of the totem pole. Like, well, no, no, bats don't see with their eyes very well. They can echolocate. Right. Mice have very bad vision.

There are plenty of animals have terrible vision. If you have a mouse in the middle of the floor, it's going to run until it hits a wall, and it's going to run along the wall. Right. Feeling the wall, wherever it goes. It's going to navigate that way. Right.

In the open floor, the mice is pretty helpless. Oh. Yeah. So, yeah. So in the genetic variation that existed for our primate ancestors, the ability to stand upright proved to be good enough for that to be important more than if you had some variation in your capacity to smell. So how long ago did we start to stand upright?

Whether a thousand years ago, whether a 500 years ago, whether 500, 500,000? A million? No, I don't remember. I don't have that number. Okay. It's a known quantity. Okay. I think it's in the millions, but it's a known quantity.

Yes. What is the latest evolution? So let's just say millions and millions ago we evolved and we started. So has there been any other evolution that has happened since then in human? Yeah. So... Pride is like love. You feel it in your heart.

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We made it. We made it. Yeah. I'm like, we? You know, I'm like, I know these guys, but who are you? I'm MC Jen, and this is laugh but not least. I'll be chatting with guests from all walks of life about the power of humor when it comes to facing difficult times. Like the co-founder of Rough Riders, Darren D. Dean. Talking about as a kid.

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Listen to laugh but not least with MC Jen starting on June 9th on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. The way, what I didn't finish the full evolution statement. So what happens is, if some new feature shows up within you, if it doesn't give you an advantage, then the feature is, it languishes. So it's like a new feature in a car. So if it doesn't give you more comfort, it doesn't give you greater miles for the gala. Then it just kind of fades away, okay? All right. And, you know, little things.

For example, we have eyebrows. Yes. What the hell are they for? Yeah, what are they for? Okay. Sweat. Keep sweat like that. Yes.

So, if it's hot and you're running away from something and you got to check it out, if sweat just fell into your eyes and sweat is salty, you're like this, you get eaten. Yeah, yeah. You get your, you're gone. Y'all didn't know. After your eyes. I'm just saying. The battle is saying, astrophysicists.

Okay, so your eyebrows, so whatever caused them initially, they had a survival advantage. Yes. Even if it was just random. Yes. Okay? The mutations are random. They don't have purpose in them. Right.

And so, so, yeah. So every feature that's on the human body, it actually has a purpose. It gave us a survival advantage. So what about underarm hair? What survival advantage that gave us? I probably could run faster by the head friction in front of there. Why is the hair under your arm slowing you down?

But I just said it's friction. That's why I waxed, so I'm bad. You wax? I do. You're a black man. You can't be all that hair. You know I'm right. But women, but I'm saying, like,

you know I'm right. When you look at pubic hair. Tell me you know I'm right. What? I don't like here. I'm saying you're a black man. Yes. You don't have hair coming up your back into your collars like they're doing the Mediterranean.

No, no, I'm not a silver back. So I'm saying, no, so I'm saying this was the weird thing about 19th century anthropologists. Okay. They're trying to put white people at the top and black people they were saying were still evolving. They were right next to apes. And they completely ignored the hairy white people in the world. Okay? That are more hairier.

Way hairier. more hairy yes than any black person they've ever seen you said something interesting and I saw you say it about the Neanderthal yeah and they compared the Neanderthal to the black man until they found out the Neanderthal was really smart and then all of a sudden oh yeah we yeah they read

yeah so we grew up the anathol was the brunt of all jokes yes okay yes and plus they didn't make it right so all right then after we crack the human genome early 90s yes it's the genome we can see what's in the genome Yeah. What other branches of evolution showed up in the genome? And they found out that some people have Neanderthal genes in them. So if this was 19th century anthropology,

they say, oh, those are probably the black people because they're still dumb and stupid. Right. Turns out, Europeans, on average, are between 1 and 3% Neanderthal DNA. African blacks near zero. Wow. That's kind of hard to, you've got to settle that score. if you're one of these anthropologists.

Beginning in the 1990s, anthropological studies of Neanderthal started describing how inventive and creative they were. Oh! And how artistic. They flip it. And they said, oh, we got it wrong. They're really there.

Just they had to fix that image right quick. That's what went on that whole period. So why do we still fight so much over skin color? So I don't think it's in color. It's just the most obvious way to tribalize someone at a distance. Okay. Okay. They have to get a little closer before you know what God they worship.

They have to get even closer before you know who they sleep with. You've got to get even closer to know what they smell like. Right. All right. And the sad part about our species is that evidence shows we are prone to, to tribalism. If it was just skin color, you would have never had World War I and two, which are basically white Christians killing and slaughtering other white Christians.

For cultural reasons or their brand of Christianity was slightly different. Okay. What's up there? Right. Okay. So people will find reasons to want to kill you if you're sufficiently different from them. Right. And a skin color, you can see that half a mile away.

Correct. Right. So that's the easiest determining factor like, you differed to me because you don't look like me. Or then when you hear me talk, you don't talk like me. Correct. Or if I come into your home where you don't have the same, you don't worship the same God or you don't eat the same food that I eat.

Right. So now I eat it at the same time on the same day of the week. Okay. Look at the rules that come with the package. So to me it's tribal, more than it is racial. It's racial just as one manifestation of something that's, been there forever. Right, right.

To do your best, uh, yes. I mean, look at the, look at how many years did France and England fight each other? Yes. Over what? Oh, they speak different languages, okay? Mm-hmm. And England fighting Spain, okay?

They're all Christian. Right. They're all white. So, so, yeah, I don't take it personally. Right. When people want to kill me for being black. I, I just say, You're just being tribal.

Right. And if I were something else, not you, you'd still want to kill me. Right. There it is. What do you think is the biggest difference between European, Asians, and Africans? Well, besides region. Well, so we all came out of Africa. Okay.

Okay. We all originated. Yes. So basically every human form originated from the Asiatic. No, from African. African. Yes. Humans.

Okay. Origin is in Africa. Africa. There is no dispute about it. None. At all. None, zero. At all.

So now, let me lead into that by saying, we surely know people. You say, Americans, and he say, oh, you know, they'll say, well, what are you? That's a company. Well, I'm Italian. Well, where are you born? America. Where are your parents born?

Brooklyn. Where are their parents born? Italy. So I'm Italian. Right. All right, here's another one. Okay. What are you?

Oh, I'm Swedish. Okay. Where were you born? I'm born in New York. Where were your parents born in New York? Where are their parents, because that's the immigrant. Right. Where were their parents born?

No, I get it right. We'll come through. Where their parents were born? Minnesota, okay? Where are their parents born? Minnesota. Where are their parents born? Sweden.

So I'm Swedish. You see what they're doing. Yeah. tree, finding the place that that sues their need to have some kind of an association. Even if they've never been to that place. And they stop there. Okay? Okay.

What I tell them all is, why don't you keep going? Just keep going. No, I just want to be from Sweden. I'm Swedish. Okay. Keep going. And if you keep going, we're all African. There is an ancestor of yours that is African

If you go far enough back on the tree But you stopped in Sweden And you stopped in Italy And you stopped in Poland Keep going back Hmm The tree, the human tree of life traces back to Africa

So now, we come out of Africa Yes Some continue north Yes It's costly to sustain dark skin Yes It's a nutritional cost on you So you go north

The sun is not there as much, the dark skin rapidly goes away and people just turn white, okay, evolutionarily. Yes. And then, so some went there, some went towards Asia. Yes. There's some dispute about whether they went south or north, but went into Asia, populated Asia, then they kept going. This is during the ice age.

How do you get an ice age? Water evaporates from the oceans. Yes. Goes into the sky. is so cold, it comes back out as snow. The snowflake lands on the countryside and never goes away because the world is below freezing.

So the snowflake is just there. Had it been rain, the water would have just worked its way back to the ocean and you'd have this circulation of water. But during the ice age, you drain the ocean of its water, deposit the water on land. It never returns to the ocean.

The ocean levels drop. exposing a land bridge between Asia and North America. That's the famous Bering Strait. And so the migrating human ancestors, it was just land. They just walked across the Bairns Bay. Then the Ice Age ended.

The waters melt back into the ocean. The ocean levels rise, closes off the Bering Strait, stranding an entire branch of the human species in North and South America. and Europe has no memory of this. Wow. That's why it's called the New World.

There it was. And the rest of the world had wars, they interbred, they did whatever. And there it is. So, even though Columbus was a dick, okay? Okay. Okay. The most important thing he did was reconnect two branches of the human species

that had been separated for 10,000 years. Okay? Had that never reconnected, that's the precise setup for biological evolution to have a branch separate away from the branch that got it there.

That's why Australia's animals are so weird. Yes. Because Australia separated from the mainland long ago on an evolutionary time scale. Yes. So they got kangaroos.

And their snakes are so deadly. They got the most... They've got venom up to... The inland Taipan, the coastal Taipan, and the common ground. Okay, they got stuff the rest of the world never seen or heard of. And keep it over there. Because it got isolated.

Yeah. So you will evolve if you're subject to your own environmental forcing. Okay. And you're not interbreeding with the rest of the world. Okay. Help me understand this. But right now, everybody's interbreeding with everybody. Airplanes enable this.

Yeah. Everybody. Yes. Everybody. Thanks, uh, Wright brothers. Help me understand. Wait, right brothers, wait. Don't blame them because they... Yes. Do you realize? Yes. The Boeing 707 jet, the first ever commercial jet.

It came from the military. Yes. First ever commercial jet came out in 1958. Its wingspan is the... is the distance that the Wright brothers first flew. We went from the Wright brothers flight to a Boeing 707 plane in 55 years. With a wingspan is the distance they flew.

Damn. That wasn't very far. That went very far. But we made great advances. And people who are in denial that we have smart humans among us, they just say aliens help. We reverse engineer the aliens.

But, you know, You can help me understand this. Yeah. Why is it that we can handle heat with our black skins better? Because normally what do they tell you, if it's hot outside, you put on light-colored clothing? Yeah. How is it that we became so adaptable to dark? Because I don't really like the heat, but I know we handle it better than our white counterpart.

Okay. Not everything is a perfect solution. Okay. Some is just a better solution than what otherwise would have happened. Okay. Okay. Dark skin absorbs sunlight. Yes.

Black people in the same situation will absorb more sunlight than white people. Yes. Making your body hotter. Yes. Which means you might have to drink more water. Okay? Fine. So you're saying, why not turn white under at the equator?

Yeah. Just why isn't everyone in Africa white? Right. So you're not absorbing sunlight. Turns out, the skin, absorbs ultraviolet light. Okay. Ultraviolet light gives you skin cancer and you die.

Damn. Melanin absorbs ultraviolet light and does not give you skin cancer. Skin cancer is 30 times more prevalent in white people than in black people. And when black people even get it, it's usually not in a part exposed to where the sun it hit. It's like on the bottom of your feet. Wow.

Which is, you're not always looking at your bottom of your feet. Correct. Who's our guy from Jamaica died? that. Bob Marley died of skin cancer from his feet. Really? Yes. Yes. Okay. And so it's it's it's pernicious because it's you're not looking at the bottom of your feet. How often you do that? Let me look in a mirror. Yeah. You know, that's not what you do. People they look at the feet, they barely washing

their feet. So they're doing joy looking at it. So so the trade-off is right you're going to be hotter but you're not going to get skin cancer. Right. And it would kill all white people that don't have melanin in their skin. Wow. So that's why Nordic countries, those people are so white. Yes. It's not false to portray Elsa in the Disney movie, you know, what's the in, um, in frozen. In frozen. Make those people as white as you have ink to do so. Right. And that'll be just fine. So, and if you wanted to make a movie with no black people, said it in Norway. So why don't we,

so why don't we handle the cold weather? Like, well, I mean, I don't think anyone wants to be in the cold. Yeah, they do. Some of them do.

Like you said, Norway, those Icelandic. Well, they don't mind it. I think of it. So the thing about dark skin is, if it's cold out,

you will absorb more sunlight to keep you warm. Right. Okay, you'll have to put on fewer clothes to stay warm in that way. Okay.

And I've done that. Knowing the physics of this, I've taken full advantage of that. Right. You know what? I think the biggest thing is, and I remember hearing my grandfather said it, he was a farmer,

and he was talking about... Where was it? He was in Georgia. Georgia. I'm from South Georgia. And he believed it because the weather, he said, the weather changed,

and he said, yeah, Mary, they're messing with that moon. Some people don't believe it. They said, man, they went to Hollywood, they got into a studio, The moon landing. The moon landing.

You know exactly where I was going with this. Can we prove the moon landing actually happened? I'm not authorized to comment. So, let me offer you a couple of perspectives. Okay. So, I had this conversation with someone, otherwise educated man. Yes. Rational.

Yes. And I said to him as to he came out to me and say, you know, he was, citing things that were out of his expertise. Right. Like, how come every picture we see from the moon, there are no stars in the sky? Right. You should see stars. Right.

He doesn't understand photography. Right. If you are exposed for the bright, because there's no atmosphere, so the sky is not glowing. You'll see the sun and stars in the sky at the same time. Right. But a photograph can only take one exposure. And if it exposes for the sunlit people, Buzz Aldrin, posing in the picture, that exposure frame.

is not long enough to capture the much dimmer stars in the night sky. He doesn't know this, but he's citing his evidence that we didn't go to the moon. Right. This is irresponsible. Go learn something before you start lobbying evidence against something that you don't know anything about. Right. Okay. So I said, what would prove to you that we landed on the moon?

You tell me. He said, a photograph of the landing site. I said, okay. So the next day I handed him a website. They go on that website. It's pictures because we went back to the moon with an orbiting reconnaissance camera. And we saw the website.

And I gave him the pointer to the actual photo. Right. Because there's a million photos there. And you can see the tracks from the rover and the landing from the limb. And he said, I saw it. But I looked at the bottom corner and it said it had the NASA logo as well as the Japan logo because it was a Japanese-American collaboration. Right.

And because of the NASA logo, that's still the U.S. government. And so I don't trust that it's real. And I said to him, I gave you exactly what you asked me to give you. And you still don't believe it. So the conversation is over. And just be glad you live in a country where you can believe whatever the hell you want. Right. And we're not going to put you in jail for it.

Right. Because it's a free country. I just don't want him to ever become head of NASA. Right. So in other words, with your expertise, you don't go back and forth with people. No, I will. I will, to some level. Yes.

But if they reject the evidence that they asked me to supply. Right. Then what's the point at that point? Where are you going with that? Right. I can't take that any further. And so. So, plus, you saw the Saturn 5 rocket launch.

Where do you think that was going? To the piggly wiggly down the street? No. You can calculate how much fuel is in the rocket. Right. It's enough fuel to go into orbit, to go to the moon, orbit the moon, come back to Earth. That's how much fuel was in there. Do the math.

No, they can't do the math. So it's stuck. I'm stuck getting them on the head about this. Right. So, here's a fun story. You ready? Yep. So NASA, the government says NASA, Russia's going to beat us to the moon.

We have to get there. We're not ready. Yes. Oh, we have to fake it. Yes. So we know who could do it for us. Let's go to Hollywood. I'm Cynthia Lois.

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Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is. Getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is. Getting a new one put up in its place. As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of remembering the Civil War. To get to school, I had to go down Robert Lee Boulevard. Get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway. If you're an historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job. I'm Akila Hughes. In Rebel Spirit, season two goes deep

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exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, he Hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball.

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So we got to fake the moon land. Right. So they go away, study it and come back, and they say, we could fake the moon, the moon landing for you, but we think it'll be more convincing if we shoot it on location. There it is. That's what happened. Yeah. But then you get Artemis 2. That's like, man, that wasn't real. Man, they ain't doing nothing but go up in a little bit. They went up about about a thousand feet and just circled and talked about in orbit. Do you get to, because, you know, they're at least of people. So think about it. Okay. What a compliment it is of modern civilization

that we have people walking among us who are in denial of how far we've come in our science and technology. Isn't that a beautiful thing? They should not be denying technology because you go to the airport. They got scanned everything.

I mean, you can be thinking something and go to Google. I'm like, huh? Huh? Who had my phone? How do I was thinking about this? I was thinking about,

how does it? I'm like, Hold on, wait a minute now. Y'all do it too. Hey, it makes you want to turn your phone off. You sound like your grandfather now. Yes. I want to turn my phone off when I was thinking to myself.

How do they do that? It's listening. I ain't say nothing. No, so you have to watch out because we're very bad data-taking devices. Right. So we tend to remember the hits and forget the misses. Okay? Yes.

You have any thoughts all the time? Yes. And you look at your pad and it doesn't match your thought. Yeah. So nothing. Yeah. You don't make a big deal of that because nothing matched. Yes.

Once in the last month, out of the 10,000 ads you saw, it happened to match when you thought about it. And you want to think something deep is going on. This is a susceptibility of the human mind wanting to put meaning into something that is otherwise random. Oh. So that's how portent tell us gives us all the time. So they'll give you one thing that have actually completed, where your father did this or your grandfather, grandmother. And you're not even paying attention.

You don't even register that because none of that's true. Right. But they hit one. How did you know? How did you know that? Yes. Yes. And before you know, you'd have emptied your bank account.

Here's what happened. I taught a class, an evening class, adult class, in astrophysics. This is at the planetarium. Would you have two people in there? No. More people like the universe than just two people. So about halfway through, a woman comes up to me. Weren't many people in class 25 or something.

And she says, I got a level with you. I'm a professional astrologer. And I'm taking your class to see if I can learn some things to help out. Right. So I said, okay, welcome. Okay. And she said, well, what's your star sign? And I said, well, if you're a professional astrologer,

you ought to be able to figure that out. Is that too much to ask? He said, okay. And she said, Gemini. I said, no. Then she said oh it must be Leo I said no And then I know it's cancer I said no

On the eighth guess Eight out of how many? 12 She gets the right answer I knew it And she said I knew it People don't understand statistics So

I don't know So I worry The aliens come and they see all of this. They see us killing each other. Yeah. For, like I said, for all these reasons, skin color, who you pray to, who. Yeah.

They'll see that. And they'll see people who think Earth is flat, that we never went to the moon, even though we have all manner of hardware on the moon. Right. If they say we didn't go to the moon, they have to admit that we didn't go to the moon nine times. Right. Okay?

Yes. We didn't go to the moon nine times. What's that about? Okay. Nine missions went to the moon. Right. And so, so, so, they'll see all of this. They'll see people denying the claims of scientists.

And they'll wonder, what the, what, what? And they'll rush home. Yeah, they say we ain't fooling with that. And report is no sign of intelligent life on earth. Sometimes I don't know if I would disagree with them. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. I knew you'd help me understand this.

I've never been there. I do want to go because I want to see it. The pyramid is at Giza. I haven't seen them either. But you've got to explain somehow. With not the machinery, the equipment that we have today, how did they, how do they put that up? I'm not authorized. No, no.

Stop. Stop. You have been influenced by people who are in denial. Not the real. In denial of a brilliant African civilization. Last I checked, Egypt is in Africa. And the people leading the charge of disbelief tend to be Europeans. Not from Africa.

Okay? The Europeans come in because what was Europe doing 2000 BC? None of nothing that's happening back then. Okay? And living in huts or whatever they were doing, it was not the brilliant civilization going on in Africa. Right. Africa. The Nile would flood, the irrigation, the architecture, the science, the civilization that that represented.

The hanging gardens of Babylon. She's just Artemis. Okay? Holokonazas. These are, well, except when you go to Greece and Rome, well, that's Europe. Yeah. And so... They can have an explanation of how that...

Because that's their own people. That's my point. So I'm tired. I'm going to sound like Martin Luther King. I'm tired of having people, you know, deny the intellect of Africans in Egypt 5,000 years ago. And so look at who primarily is in denial of it. And doesn't mean I didn't like and enjoy the movie with the ring. Stargate.

Okay. Love me some Stargate. Okay. But it's aliens coming through a Stargate into Egypt. Yes. And creating that civilization. Right. Once again, in denial of what actually happened.

Of dark-skinned people having that ability. Right. So you look at it. How did they do that? They were smart. How could they build it? They had a lot of people. Right.

Still, how's it? They took a lot of time. Right. It wasn't built overnight. Right. It wasn't built by a few people. Smart people. One of them, I think, was Imhotep, was one of the architects, one of the, the, the, yeah, the architects of, from ancient Egypt.

So I have no hesitation accepting, recognizing the role that, law that law, law, you know, Local Egyptians played in building that empire. Wow. Zodiac, dude, do they actually mean, because you... Doc, you know how women are. What's your sign? Mm-hmm. I knew it.

You're a water sign. Or you're this or that. They only say I knew it after you gave it the answer. But I'm saying it's like, they only say they knew it after they gave the answer. We're going. Like, okay, I'm a cancer crab. That's a water sign. Or you're this or you're a Capricorn or you're a Sagittarius.

Sagittarius or you're Leo, Zatyrs, a Taurus, or, I'm like, I don't know what that. Who came up with the zodiac signs and put a meaning that people buy into? People actually believe that they fall up under the sign and because they said, okay, you're compassionate, you're this and you're that, and people believe it.

So, in all fairness, to people, yeah. Let me just give a shout out. Okay. To our species. If you go back far enough when we're agrarian, when do you plant seeds? How do you know? Oh, because this constellation is here in the sky at this time of night. It's not in that part of the sky three months or now.

Right. Two months ago, now. Right. When are you going to harvest? Well, when this other constellation is right here. Okay. It must know about my crops. It must care.

It must think about this. Right. It all revolves around me. Yes. You're at the center of all this motion. So how could you think anything else? Plus, your religious book puts Earth in the middle and everything is in the service of you. Everything.

This is a pre-scientific era where our ego knew no limits. no limits. We event the telescope. Yes. We find out the stars are at different distances in space. Right. It's not just on a dome

where we connect the dots. The dots are actually distributed throughout space. Right. And you want to put a pattern on these random-ass stars in the sky? Really? And I told you

we will see patterns even when they're not actually there. Right. Because that's a human thing to do. We're going to see Jesus in the tortilla. He's going to be in a tortilla and in the waffle or whatever your waffle iron is going to do. So once we learned the universe, these are not discrete patterns sitting on a surface. The stars spread out in space.

Once we learned this, the idea that these mythological, entities that were layered onto the sky by sleepless Babylonians and Greek and Romans, it's untenable in the face of that knowledge. And if you do experiments, they fail every time. So here's a good experiment, which no one gets you to do. What would it be? They say that where the sun is in the sky when you're born, that's your sign. Right.

So you probably know your sign. What is it? I'm a cancel. Cancer. And what's your birthday? June 26th. Okay. Do you realize 2,000 years ago, the sun was in the constellation cancer on June 26th?

Yeah. It's not there anymore. The correspondence of the sun has shifted against the background stars over the last 2,000 years. So it's an entire constellation off. from the origins of the zodiac. Right. So, and not only that, Scorpius, okay? Do you realize when the sun enters Scorpius,

because it's our movement around the sun, where we see it appear in front of stars, when the sun enters Scorpius, it then exits Scorpius before the month is over and goes into another constellation. Right. Called Ophiukas. You ever hear of Ophiukas?

No. The sun spends more time in Ophiuchus. than in Scorpius. Most people who think their scorpions are actually Ophiukans, and all scorpions and Ophiukans are currently Libran's, because that's where the sun is right now when you were born. Wow. Now go pay someone to read your horoscope.

Is it true? I've heard this, I don't know if this is a myth you're going to clear it up right here today, that we only use 10% of our brain. No. It was never true. It was never true. Okay. But it's not going to.

going away because teachers love it. An underperforming student, you're only using 10% of your brain, reach in for more of it. So I think the way it goes is there was a, you know, in brain research, you can't just experiment on people's brains. Right. It's unethical. Right. The best you can do...

Okay, you a lobotomy? Best you can do is wait for somebody to come in with a brain injury. Right. Okay. There's like a spike goes through here. Yeah. And then they lose their language. Okay.

No, the spike goes through here and they go blind, but they can still speak. Or they can make noises, but they don't make gibberish. So you can make a pattern of what's going on if that repeats with everyone. Go ahead. Is the brain the same for everybody? We don't know. No. Test it.

Okay. What the guy said in the 19th century was, the brain is so complex. I forgot who said this. The brain is so complex, we only know what 10% of it is used for. And we took that to me that we only used 10% of it. And that's what led without that, you couldn't have the movie Lucy. Did you see Lucy? I did not.

Scarlett Johansson. Okay. Morgan Freeman. Check it out. She's drug smuggling with the chemical sewn into her body and the bag breaks and it makes her completely brilliant. Okay. Okay.

And all the psychologists are trying to understand it. Right. And Morgan Freeman, he says, she's now using 20% of her brain. Okay. And then things happen. Yeah. She can start, like, stopping bullets. Yeah.

She's now 50% of her brain. Yes. Okay. And so as more and more of her brain gets used, she has powers that go beyond her body. Right. Which is not a thing. I talk about it in here.

Right. I'd say, if you're really, really smart, you're not moving things with your fingers. Right. You'll just solve problems faster. Right. That's all. That's it.

That's it. So, yeah. Blatt Earthers. Do they annoy you? No. Well, I just don't. Don't bring them when you meet the alien. I want to leave a good impression on the alien, okay?

Leave him at home. Say, I'll get back to you. Oh, by the way, did you see Bogonia? I have not. Okay. So it's an alien movie, okay? And you don't believe in aliens, but you like watching those movies. I like movies.

Okay. I like being entertained. Okay. Okay. Yes. Provided they have some story in the big budget doesn't always equal good story. Right. Lately.

There's a point, spoiler alert, where she meets the aliens. Right. Fine. But the aliens are standing around a table, and there's a model of the flat earth there. No. I'm going to give you the alien, but I'm not giving you the flat earth. Right. So this was like a catch basin for people who are saying there's a conspiracy to hide all this information.

Right. So, yeah, no flat earth. Take that. Just stay home with that. This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part 2 is also posted, and you can access it to whichever podcast platform you just listen to Part 1 on.

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