Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Neil deGrasse Tyson Part 2

Episode Date: June 3, 2026

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I don't think so. I don't know. I can't answer that. But there are fossils of prehistoric animals in Antarctica before it was iced over. So the possibility... This is climate. This is climate change from continental drift. Right.

And that's the kind of thing that'll bring one species in, take ten species out. Yeah. So to the best of your estimate, no person has ever in. Not people, no. People. Definitely not humans. No. Wow.

And Antarctica has a lake that's submerged beneath the ice. Liquid Lake. It's called Lake Vostok. I think it was discovered by the Russians. I forgot how long it has not been in contact with our air. air or our biosphere for some huge length of time. Forgive me, I don't remember how long, but significant amount of time relative to recent evolution.

Right. It's being held up as a test bed for alien evolution in water repositories on other planets. So we don't want to contaminate it with any life form that thrives today. Right. It's a record of life forms that existed back when the thing got sealed over. Do you believe the bottom of the ocean is as fascinating? Its face, its face? Yeah, it's just much harder to get to.

Really? Oh, yeah. What makes going down there so much more difficult than going up there? Because... Do you know the atmospheric pressure around us right now? Yes. Okay. Let's just call it one atmosphere.

Yes. It numerically, it's 14.7 pounds per square inch. Okay. This is one atmosphere. Yes. Okay? When you go into space, do you know the air pressure? No, I do not.

Zero. So what's the difference between sea level and space? Right. It's one atmosphere. You go in the ocean. Yes. Every several meters, I forgot the number, is a whole extra atmosphere's worth of water pressure on top of you.

Okay. That's why that submersible imploded and everybody died on it. A few months ago, I forgot what the expedition was. I know it was in the news, right? The deeper down you go, the more pressure. The more pressure you feel and the more stress your vessel is under. Yes. It's much harder to build something where you stay alive under those pressures than it is

to stay alive in space. So we know more about the surface of the moon than we know about the surface of the ocean. Somehow the animals finally just find us to be able to go down there and chill out. That's right. But we didn't evolve there so we're not capable of... And by the back there, that's literally where the sun don't shine. Right. So they have pretty useless eyeballs.

Right. They have vestigal eyes. Eyes that they may have had it another time, but then they didn't use them, they didn't need them. And so the so the sockets are still there. Right. But they're just not getting used. Do you think we are as interested in what's down there as we are what's up there?

No. anything in space, I'm surely biased right now. Yes. But maybe not. Right. Everything in space is more interesting than everything on Earth.

Right. I'll give an example. Not everything. But let's say there's an eighth grade class of kids. Okay. Okay. And you study volcanoes. So you're a geologist.

And you come and say, I like volcanoes. Right. And here's the, here's like, you know, Vesuvius. And that blew up in ancient Rome. And here's it. And you just go,

Everyone says, wow, wow, wow. And I wait till you're done. And then I come in. They say, this volcano on Mars is the single largest mountain in the entire solar system. On Jupiter's Moon, Io, is the most volcanically active place in all of our sector of the galaxy. And I'll show pictures of it, plumes coming up. Volcanoes on planets. Wow.

Not volcano. And then I win. Because it's a volcano in space. I got another, you ready? On Europa and on Enceladus, it is so cold, but it's warm underneath. It gurgles up, punches through the ice, and you have ice volcanoes on these moons.

Wow. Ice volcanoes. I got the whole class. You out of a job. The South of Africa on the map. Don't get me started. Africa is bigger than what they portray on the map or the smaller than what they portray on the map. On flat maps, there are distortions in the north and in the south.

Okay. And Africa straddles the equator. Yes. Okay. So on those maps, the most accurate sized things are along the equator. Okay. As you move away, things get artificially bigger because of the projection. Okay.

And North America looks huge. Do you realize you can fit the continental United States, you can fit five of them into Africa? Five. Wow. And we make a big deal of what state you're from. Oh, you're just from Africa. You're not going to take the time to learn what countries are in Africa?

Like, really? Yeah. You learn every state in the Union, and Africa can fit five of those. Right. So, yeah. So it's not that Africa is too small or large, it's that North America and Europe are distortedly large

relative to Africa. Elon Musk and Jeff Bezo, they are in a race to get the space. Have they called you and say, hey, stop. Help us out. They don't need my help. The quickest, safest way. They don't need my help.

Plus, they're doing different things. Bezos, he's got this, you go up and you come back. Right. Right. Elon can actually put things into orbit. Two very different space. Right. And Bezos is, how long is that right?

20 minutes at most, something like that? You don't need bathrooms on board unless you have bladder problems. Right. If you have bladder problems, you shouldn't be going up anyway. Right. Whereas Elon will put you into orbit. And he has a much more significant space operation going on. Right.

Than Bezos or Branson or, you know, the billionaire boys space race. So, yeah, I'm not eager to go in to quote space. Right. Because to everybody who asked me that, they're talking about these going up and coming back. Right. If you shrunk Earth to the size of a schoolroom globe, I ask you, how high above that would you find the International Space Station? Just take a guess. A couple of miles.

From the schoolroom globe. Yeah. Okay. The space station is four-tenths of an inch above the surface. That's it. Bezos and Branson, when they send people up in their little rocket. Yeah. The thickness of two dimes above Earth's surface, if Earth were a schoolroom globe.

As an astrophysicist, I cannot embrace that as space. Right. Space, send me somewhere, moon, Mars, beyond. Yeah. Then I'll go. Well, Musk is taught wants to populate Mars. You interested in that? No.

Well, yeah, provided he sends his mother first. You're not going to be the guinea people. I don't want to be it. Ain't buy a guinea pig. Yeah. And I would go to visit. I wouldn't go to stay. Do you realize Antarctica is warmer, warmer, balmier, and wetter than any place on Mars?

Yet nobody's lining up to build condos in Antarctica. Yeah. So what is the... And I guess I'm asking the wrong person. But what's the fascination about putting or having people go to another planet, go to have people to be out of space? What is that fascination? To go where no man has gone before. Oh, Star Trek, huh?

Just because you don't feel it, doesn't mean others wouldn't. You think people would actually want to live? There was already a company called Mars One that would get people to sign up for one way, trips to Mars. They went out of business because they couldn't raise money enough to do it, because it's way cheaper to send somebody there one way than to bring him back. Of course. So it'd be like the old Mayflower, you know? And I spoke with the guy, the entrepreneur, he was Dutch, by the way, which was a little surreal because the Dutch East India Trading Company came right behind Columbus to sell your stuff in the

new world. So I... I spoke to him and I said, are people interested in doing this? Yes, there's like a waiting list. For my podcast, we interviewed one of the people who had signed up. Yes. Kind of geeky guy, you know, my type. And I said, well, why do you want to go? Oh, because it's a fascinating.

It's a frontier. I'd love to it. And you're not coming back? You're okay with it? Yeah. And I said, what does your wife think about this? And he said, oh, she's encouraging it. I didn't want to give him a lesson in relationships.

Yeah, but yeah, she's over you, bro. In that moment, I didn't want to be the one. Yes. To, like, she's over him, right? Right. Okay. So, here's the thing. When the Mayflower landed in the New World.

Yes. And they got off the ship? Yeah. They could breathe the air. Yes. If there's a broken part of the ship, the trees in the New World are made of wood. Right. And they could repair it.

There were other human beings waiting to feed them when they landed. That was a one-way trip. But the destination was very different than from Mars, where Martians aren't waiting to feed them. Right. They can't breathe the air. There are no trees. Not that you would repair a spaceship with wood.

Right. But so, yeah, I don't see that happening anytime soon. What is the correlation? This seems to be a correlation, though I think there's a correlation, between geniuses and how functioning autism. I don't think that's it. I would say, by the way, one out of six of my colleagues is probably on the spectrum.

There may be a correlation, but I have an easier explanation for it. Okay. If you're on the spectrum, you could focus like it's nobody's business. Okay. Because you don't have other people distracting you. Yes.

You're not showing up on podcast. Yes. You're not hosting your own podcast. Correct. You're not the life of the party. Right. You're not going to any party at all. At all.

So another genius who might be socialized. Right. Is not so focused as the unsocialized person on the spectrum. Mm-hmm. So it's easy for me to think instead that social geniuses never ascend to the highest heights they could have intellectually because they do too distracted, living their life. Okay.

So whereas on the spectrum, yeah, you could be in the lab and forget to pee. Right, right? Your personal hygiene doesn't even come up. Pride is like love.

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seeing what people think and feel and do. When he was at Princeton, yes. Marion Anderson came through town. She couldn't stay in the Nassau Inn, which is the hotel. Yes. In town.

She put her, he put her up. He put her up. Black opera singer. Yes. He's written about the plight of black people. And he noticed some similarity between the plight of Jews in Hitler, Europe, and the plight of black people in America

and made these correlations. You have to be aware of the human condition and the interplay and the geopolitics on a level that I've not seen deeper, artistically affected people manifest. I just haven't seen it. But I don't claim to be an expert there. But, yeah.

It's funny that you said that because in his famous a visit to Lincoln University in 1946 to teach a physics class, Lincoln University and HBCU. Yes, absolutely. Historically black college and university. Historically, black, I went to one, and I'm in HBCU. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Which one? Which is going to? Savannah State. Is that right? Okay, cool. You recruited right out of there? I did. All right.

And black students and calling racism a disease of white people. Yeah. Yeah, he said that. He did. Yeah. So how is, how is it? For him to even know that, to say it, have the incentive, the motivation to go to an HBCC. Yes.

This is why I'm saying. I don't see that when you're that, if you're into yourself and into your lab, you don't tend to behave that way. So I don't, he might have been an impasse on that level, which is kind of the opposite. Because for him to be so brilliant and to be obviously from another country and to see the plight, just come over here and just for a little while, he didn't stay, he didn't have to be here 10 years, 15, 20 years. He come for a very limited amount of time. And he could see. And he observed.

What men say didn't they don't even exist to this day. He saw it immediately. Unfortunately, you don't have to be Einstein to see it. You know what? Was that all a setup just for you to say that line? You know, this is, you made me sit through that whole explanation. If you could, would you want to live forever? No.

No. Can I tell you why? Why? You don't want to be like Bethusler? He lived to 956. Yes! That wasn't forever. Well, that's 956.

I mean, it's a long time. As a matter of fact, I got 892 years to go. It's a long time. It's a long time. I think it was 956. He wasn't the longest. I think somebody else lived longer than he. No, no.

A lot of people lived in their 900. Yes. In the Bible. You wouldn't want to be... Okay. What am I supposed to be... Didn't I say I was about to explain? Okay, I would hear you.

I would hear you. All right. Ready? Yes. In life, I don't search for meaning as so many people do. Right. Like you might find it, you know, under a rock behind a tree. Yeah.

I manufacture meaning in life. Okay. You have the power to do this. Okay. So part of me wants to, every day, as is possible, lessen the suffering of others. Every day I want to learn something that I didn't know the day before. Every day I want to have a new thought, empowered by the new knowledge I gleaned from what I learned today. If someone does me a favor and says, when are you going to pay me back?

I say, I'm not. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to pass it forward. So that rivers of favors move through civilization. The moment you pay back a favor, it closes off. that's the end of it. Right. If you do that favor for someone else, and they do it for someone else.

Oh. The favor never stops moving. Yeah. But I'm going to need my favorite back. I'm going to need my $500 back. I don't get in your sordid past. I'll do a favor for somebody else. I don't know what happened in your past.

Don't involve me in your debts. Okay. So, now knowledge you're going to die. going to die. Kind of put some urgency in what you're doing today. Absolutely. Doesn't it? Yes.

Okay. Let me give an example. If you're going to bring flowers to a loved one, you're going to go to a forest or are you going to go to a place and buy plastic flowers? What are you going to do? I'll go to Florence. Wait a minute. The flowers die.

Why not get plastic flowers and they live forever? You know not to get plastic flowers because if they live forever, there's no urgency to devote any attention to them at all today. Right. Because they're going to be around tomorrow. Right. Whereas flowers, they'll all be dead in 10 days. Right.

Probably seven. And then it's male. You are compelled to pay attention. Yes. In the seven days at most that you have that vase of flowers. Knowledge of the death compels you to give of yourself to it. So, look at dogs. You go out to the mailbox and come back,

the dog is jumping, licking you in the face. Like he ain't seeing you in weeks, weeks, okay? Why is that? Wait a minute. What's that calculation, the human to dog ears? It's like 7 to 1. Yeah, that's 7. There's some more complex versions of that.

But it's basically 7 to 1. Yes. Dog lived 14 years. You live to 84. Yeah. Okay, 85. Something like that. All right.

Did I do the math on that, right? No, I didn't. 14, 70, 28. You might live to 90. Yeah, 98. Okay, fine. But around there. Yes.

Could it be that every day a dog lives is really a week? That's a 7 to 1 ratio. Right. Think about that. They're living an entire week of their lives in one day. So they're making their lives count. Either explicitly or implicitly, they know they're going to die. And so to express enthusiasm and joy.

In fact, I don't think we deserve dogs. Just ask yourself. They're amazing. Beatt, were you ever the hero your dog thought you were? No. No. No. No.

No. I'm the, I'm the greatest thing it has ever known. And the same token, the most flawed. Man's best friend, which no one has ever said of cats. Yeah. Okay? What if the dog only knew? Anytime I'm around cats, I feel like they're exploiting me for some reason.

Why isn't it we think cats are sneaky? It feels like they're always up to no good. They're always hiding up under something to patty feet. Right, right. Right, right there's sneaking. And then they rub up again. What do you come from? Because they want something from you.

All right. So, it's my point. If knowing I'm going to die, the meaning of my life in my remaining days, then mathematically living forever is to live a life of no meaning at all. Because we knew we lived forever. We have no sense of urge. You could just do it tomorrow.

What kind of hell life would that be? You're right. Not only that, the population of Earth would grow rapidly and we'd outstrip its resources and we don't have another planet to live on. And we die anyway. We die anyway. Die and and when you're most creative, it's when you're youngest. Yes.

If we have the population where everybody's old, yeah. Yeah, we can get that done. Nothing new is going to, nothing new under the sun there. You'll be living in your wealth. Yes. And it's the hungry, younger folks that are trying to make a new thing in the world. And they're outnumbered a thousand to one by old people. That's not a world you want to live in.

So take kindly the council of the years gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Are you afraid of dying? Don't you want to ask me where I got that quote from? Who gave you that quote? You made it up. I wish I did, but it's Desiderata. Desiderata. It was a big thing back in the 70s.

thing back in the 70. I had a handwritten copy in my wallet. I memorized. Go placidly amid the noise and haste, remembering what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender, be on good terms with all persons. It's the track that has the line, somebody turned it into a song in the 1970s. You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars, and you have a right to be here. It was wisdom that I didn't even know could exist right when I was 12 years old and for me it's so it's part of how I've thought about getting old take kindly the council of the years but you don't fear death I fear think about I fear living a life where I could have accomplished more

that would be a shame would yes and so I'm driven And I want this on my tombstone. I quote from Horace Mann, great educator from the 19th century. You've heard the name, even if you have heard. You all know the name. Yes. Schools named after him and everything.

He was also a university president. For his farewell speech, it includes this line. I beseech you. Love that word. Nobody uses it anymore. No. Very 19th century. I beseech you to treasure up in your hearts.

these my parting words be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity that's my credo I don't want to live forever make room for the next round but you want to accomplish as much as you can

yes I still have a lot I got a list I ain't done yet wow sun color what color is the sun white Why I look yellow? Because in the middle of the day, it's so bright, it will burn out your eyes.

So when you look at the sun, when it's low on the horizon, when there's a lot of crap in the air, smoke and pollen and dust, and what it does is it filters out the blue light. The sun gives all the colors of the spectrum, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet. The atmosphere filters out the blue indigo violet, scatters it into the sky, turns out. the sky blue. Right. Well, if you take red, orange, yellow, green, blue, take out the blue, you're left with red orange yellow.

Right. That's why sunsets are red-orange yellow. That's the light that's left over after the atmosphere filtered out everything else. So, and leaving everyone to think the sun is yellow. And they draw it that way in pictures and everything. Yeah. It's a shame, but, you know, it's right. When you, I'm sure you were told the same thing I was told, boy, don't look at the sun,

you're going to go blind. Right. Your body is pretty good at preventing that. Yes. But just try not to look at the sun. Yeah. Yeah. Look at the things that the sun illuminates in your life.

Yes. Mm. Gravity. Get used to it. It's a property of matter and energy. Mm-hmm. And I like gravity. Mm-hmm.

Because there are times when I need it to keep me grounded. And it does. Wow. Could we exist if the Earth had the moon's gravity? No. Because we'd lose our atmosphere. And we'd suffocate. If you put Earth's atmosphere on the moon, it would evaporate away.

Earth's gravity is enough because the particles are moving at certain speeds All those speeds are less than the escape velocity of the earth If you put this atmosphere on the moon The gravity in the moon is not so strong They'd all just escape into space So no, you need At least Earth's gravity

You could do a little less a little more But not much less Did an asteroid really killed the dinosaurs? Oh yeah It really did Oh yeah Or something else killed it And it just happened to be at the same time, a Mount Everest-sized rock slammed into the earth.

Okay? We have the smoke and the gun. Right. Of that incident. So we have empirical data that says 10 million years ago, this big meteorite, the size of Mount Everest. Here you go. You ready? Yes.

Dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago. 65, okay. You look at the fossil record. The geologists tell you here it's 10 million years ago, 20, 30, 65 million years ago, one layer below that, dinosaurs. One layer above it, no dinosaurs. They went extinct abruptly, maybe over a thousand years, but it's abrupt in a thing. They went extinct there.

Right. What happened there? I don't know. Let's look around. Could it be volcanoes? Well, there are always volcanoes. Could it be this? Could it be that?

And then they found iridium in that layer of the iridium is what? It is an element on the periodic table that is common in metallic asteroids. And it's only at that layer. Not before it, not after it. It's everywhere in the world. How are you going to lay down a layer of iridium everywhere in the world at the same time. So dinosaurs walk the entire earth.

Yes. There is not a place on earth that was not inhibited by some form of dinosaur. Inhabited. Yes. They might have been inhibited. Inhabited. That's a different thing.

Yes. Inhabited. Inhibition Island and then they inhibited. So there might have been some areas, but there are dinosaurs in the Gobi Desert, in North America. Okay. And I assume South America.

why they couldn't have gotten there. Right. And so the point is, the asteroid hit. Right. Well, how do you get iridium on the other side? It hits with such energy that the whole thing vaporizes. It turns into meteor dust, goes into the stratosphere, and cloaks earth, blocking sunlight, taking out the base of the food chain, and sending a wave of extinction that percolates across the tree of life.

across the tree of life. Have a nice day. What? So, so, but wait a minute, we're just inferring there was a metallic asteroid because there's just this layer. Right. Some years later, some oil company drilling in the Gulf,

they found this anomaly under the ocean, this wall of dense rock. And they kept following it, and it made a circle. Was it 200 miles in circumference? Some huge circle. Wow. They said, wait a minute. When was that circle made?

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Listen to laugh but not least with MC Jen starting on June 9th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So the iridium was the smoke, the crater was the, and we know how big craters are made based on the size of the asteroid, so we can tell how big the asteroid was. And that started, it gave a boost to our studies of climate change. Right. Where something can happen here and affect climate around the world. Wow. What determines what determines what dinosaurs were able to fly, what dinosaurs lived in the water, what dinosaurs lived in the water, what dinosaurs were.

walked upright, what dinosaurs had for. With that, do we have, do we have any idea? The problem is we have only one word for all of them, but they all have their own species names. Right. And just like different species. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like we different species, you know, can fly or walk or burrow or whatever.

Right. You know, so don't be so impressed. Right. That they had different features. Right. We're mammals just the way mice are. Right. But mice will dig a hole and live in a hole.

Right. I don't see you doing that. So. I might have to. So here's something to contemplate. Okay. Do you remember this dinosaur? Which one, this one?

Stegosaurus. That's the one with the armor plates. Yeah, go down. Okay. Do you realize that we are closer in time to the extinction of the dinosaurs than the extinction of the dinosaurs are to the extinction of stegosaurus?

So we're here. Here's the extinction of T-Rexamosaurus. of T-Rex. Okay. Here's the extinction of T-Rex. Here's the extinction of Stegosaurus. Wow. So the dinosaurs just got unlucky.

Right. They were around for hundreds of millions of years. And a dinosaur takes them out. Stegsaurus went extinct for other reasons. A asteroid takes out the dinosaurs, and they'd still be here if an asteroid didn't come. What? We'd be having this podcast interview.

We need to put a tail through the thing. But do we know people, were people around at that point in time? No. Unless you're religious. Orthodox Christian. Right. Because they will tell you, I don't need to do their bidding here, but they will tell you that Noah's Ark had dinosaurs. Or reptiles that are of the same order as dinosaurs and that humans coexisted with dinosaurs.

So if you go to the Christian parks, theme parks, there are things. theme rides where you ride the back of a dinosaur. Right. And so this is what you think about the world when you don't have science. Yeah. What is the most impressive creature that's ever walked first? No, crawl, flu, it could be a mammal, it can be an insect, it can be a whatever, to your best guess, estimate.

I've always been impressed with snakes. Let's do the same example. did with the alien. Only two dozen people have ever seen snakes. They start testifying. You gotta believe me. There's this animal. It's just a tube. It's just a thing. But it could chase you down the street. It's got no arms and no legs. And it can move as fast as you can walk. And it's got a head that can eat something five times bigger than its head. It can dislocate its jaw. and eat this. It can eat an entire egg

bigger than its head. No, sir. And it can stalk its prey with infrared rays. What the hell are you talking about? And then you get him to draw it and it'll be some stupid drawing that nobody understands.

Right. It's a snake. I think snakes are... Oh, if it bite you, you die. Right. Some of them. Yeah. Some constrict.

Right. So, I'm impressed what a snake can do without any arms and legs. Well, help me understand, roaches. Because them jokers, they're man,

they've been around as long as the dinosaurs. They will outlive us. Why they ain't going extinct? Why did the asteroid that wipe them jokers out? And it's the same thing. You know, you can't just have your way

with the tree of life. It's not for you to nip-tuck and edit and delete. I was reading... That same tree of life gave us roses. Yeah, I take the road. And puppy dogs. Yeah, yeah.

Well, we made puppies, but... But I could do without the roaches than the ant. Well, no, probably not the ants. Actually, you realize the insect population is dropping in the world. Roaches are at an all-time low. What's the last time you saw a roach? Well, considering where I live and I hope I don't see one, because I won't have a problem if I do.

I saw a bunch of when I was growing up. Right. So two-bedy. Okay, do you have any friends back when you were grown up? Yes. Do you visit them recently? I do not. You do not.

That's bad. Okay, you know that's bad. Yeah. Okay. Go back there and see if you see any roaches. They've been on the exit. They've been on the client hunt. Yeah.

Yeah. What happened to them? It's a mystery. Mystery to me, I think even to the insect people. Insect population has been waning. You know what I didn't know, Doc? It's not always good. Because some insects pollinate flowers, you know.

Yeah, I want the bees. Bees got a state. Insects got there, do their business. But, you know, even ants, like you said, ants, you know, they eat dead things and they help clean up because, you know, I used to think about like, man, why buzzards, bolchers they call them buzzards? I don't know if they're the same thing. I was like, man, why we need those? But then you understand if something died and it would just left to go away by itself. Yeah, plus mosquitoes and gnats.

Yeah. or food for bats. Yes. All right. You knock something out of the food chain. It's going to impact something else. It's going to impact something else. Yeah.

Is it true? Because I don't know if this is true. I think it is. They say, like, if you kill an ant, it will release a pharmole. And as homeboys say, man, Johnny, Johnny got done with, got dealt with. And they come look for the body. That's why you see, like, when you kill one, you see a threat. I don't know enough about, I got experts in my museum who would know this, the American Museum of Natural History.

Okay. But I don't know about the ants. Yeah. I'm about it. What about it? Bigs Mark. Well, I was taught in school that humans have the biggest brain relative to our body size. Right. Which requires a bit of arithmetic to be at the top of that list.

Right. We weigh the brain, weigh the body, divide those two numbers. Right. Now you plot that. We're at the top. Okay. We don't have the biggest brain. Biggest brain is whales.

Next is dolphins. Yeah. We're porpoises. Next is elephants. And we're fourth. Okay. In terms of brain-to-body weight ratio, we're at the top, but only for mammals.

They didn't tell me that in school. Wow. Do you realize there's certain mid-sized birds that have a higher brain-to-body weight ratio than we do? Really? Yes. You know how they get away with that? Because birds are light. Right. And the bones are very fragile. Gradual, yes. Okay. So, amidst it like the magpie. Yeah. And certain parrots. Yeah. Huckle and Jekyll with magpies. People think they were crows. They were magpies.

Oh, what? Yes. You mean from, you don't mean from Dumbow? Yeah. Heckle and Jekle. You remember heckle and Jekyll? They're mags. From Dumbow? No, those were crows. Trolls. No, what was the heckling and Jekyll on? You remember Heck and Jekyll? I just remember that crows... Yeah, you want to know what... What were they from?

Heckle and Jekyll? No, heckle and Jekyll are bagpies. They're the difference... No, I get that, but I just want to know what movie they're from. They had their own series. Yeah, this is just... Yeah, okay, okay. So Magpies, yeah.

So, have you ever seen the video of the Magpie drinking? Mm-mm. Look it up. There's one of these... one of these sort of half-liter plastic bottles of water? Yes. The kind of anybody carries around. It's sitting there in a, like park benches,

it's sitting there on the ground. The magpie goes up to it, drinks water, and the water level drops. Right. Until the beak can't reach the water anymore. It comes out, goes, gets a pebble, drops the pebble in, raises the water level, drinks some more.

Does this three or four times. What human would figure that out? So, so brains, they have a higher brain to body weight which than we do. Wow. Do you know, has the highest? Are certain species of ants? Really? Yes.

Which, that's not hard to embrace because you've seen ants. Yeah, they're not very big. But they have some big old head ants. Yeah. They have some ants with some big old heads. Yeah. Well, you got the bull ass. You have seen those bull ants?

They call them velvet ants. They're in the fields with bulls in the south. You're not, but they're called velvet ants. Because if you feel them, I wouldn't recommend you feel them. But they look like it's velvet. We call them bull ants, but they're called, I think the term it's a velvet ant. And they're by this big. They're little wop on you, dog.

I'm telling you, they're, right, right. So you got, so all I'm saying is if an alien came and cared about brains, yes, they wouldn't come to us first. Oh, like the predator. They go to the whale. Yeah. Okay, we would be fourth on that list. Yeah.

If they care about brain to body weight ratio, then they go to ants first. Okay. We're not near the top of that list. So we're not, we're not, we're not, by your, yo, your theory and recollection and, and we're not as high as up as we think we are. Our ego knows no bounds. That's all I can say. if there a new violation, if there's something that's, look, we had COVID six years ago. Is there, is there something else coming down?

Because every year we seem like we go through something, be it, you know, what's this, we had Zika and we had West Nile and we had Ebola and we had COVID. All I can say is, whatever it is, we ain't ready for it. So, we still have anti-vaxers running around. Yes. You know, I don't trust scientists. I saw a YouTube video, so I'm not going to take it. You know, it's like, what?

What's just, so. Well, it used to be you had to get to go to school. You had to get there are certain vaccines you had to get. I'm going to tell you story, and I don't want you ever forget this story. Okay. 20,000 years ago, we're in the cave. Yes. Do you know what the life expectancy was?

10 years, 15 years. 30. 30. 30. Half of everyone born was dead before they were 30. Wow. Fast forward to 1840. Right.

1840. That's a long time. Yes. From 20,000 years ago. Yes. Half of everyone born in the world was dead by the age of 34, 35. We gained five years life expectancy. Wow.

And every one of them ate organic, breathed clean air. Yes. drank fresh water. Yes. There was no pet. A free range game. Science matters here. Right.

We've doubled the life expectancy with antibiotics. vaccines, and sanitation, the three biggest forces operating on our longevity. So to come around and say, I don't need vaccines because I'm not getting sick, that's like saying, why are you using dandruff shampoo?

You don't have dandruff. Well, I don't want to get it. That's my point. If you're successful, people think you don't need it, when that's what's creating the ongoing success in the first place. Were they, like when all this, when, when all these scientists was coming up with these, these inventions, these great inventions, uh, antibiotics that, that, you know, all this stuff that helped polio and wiped out all these. Right. The vaccines. The vaccines. Were they, were they deniers back then? As much as they, as much as they were some people who did not want to be vaccinated. Okay.

Especially especially, uh, especially since the way they made vaccines back then, some, it would be from a live virus. There's a risk. You know, there's some risk factors. Of course. There was an anti-bax movement from the beginning. Nothing is organized and as effective as it is now. Right. Right.

So I don't even know how you want to outline, talk about this. But Terence Howard, you responded to him. Because you don't really respond to a whole lot of people. But I guess that's a good, that's a good point. So my mother heard Terrence Howard on NPR. Okay. He had some new series coming out. It might have even been the, you know, the empire.

What was it called that he was in? Yeah, who's an empire? Yeah, yeah. And it was an NPR. And they talked about his early childhood. And he said he loved astronomy and telescopes and the night sky. And my mother heard this. He said, you should get them on your podcast.

Star Talk podcast. Right. Because back then we were interviewing a lot of celebrities. Hence the name Star Talk. Yes. That's the double meaning there. And so I said, I'll keep it in mind. And so I started doing Cosmos.

Because I was on Fox. Yeah. And Cosmos was on Fox. And we went to one of these Fox up front where they showcase their next season's product to advertisers. And so they bring all the celebs. So everybody's there. And I see Terrence Howard. And so pleased to meet you.

My mother described this to you. I'd love to have you on my podcast. And he said, great. I'll send you my write-up. He was like, huh? What? Huh? And he sends me this 30-page document titled

1 times 1 equals 2. Where he says all of math is wrong. He has a new math that we should use. And I thought to myself, he thought that I wanted to give. him platform for this new idea right that he had and rather than just talk about his geeky underbelly as a science enthusiast so a little bit is my fault for not knowing

that that's what he was going to send my way right he says this I felt obligated right to reply right I went line by line right and I replied and I kept my version of it printout then he shows up on Joe Rogan right and he says said that I treated him badly or mean, I was mean to him. And even Joe Rogan said, are we talking about Neil deGrasse Tyson? Because that's not my MO. That's not what I do. I'm not mean to people.

And so my producer says, Neil, this is going viral. You have to reply. I can't reply. I don't want to reply. You got a reply. So I got my document where all my comments are on it. And I go page by page and I show the audience. where I was firm with him, where I was, you know, take this, develop it here.

This is not true. And your next page that depends on that is therefore not true. So I do this. It goes viral. And it ends up drawing more views than the original posts that triggered me to do that. Right. By the prompting of my producers. So I figured, okay, my job is done here.

That's all that happened. That's the beginning and end of that episode. Is it really true that you told that James Cameron? that he depicted the wrong night sky. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Wrong sky in the Titanic. There's Rose sitting there on the plank.

Yes. And she's looking up. There's the wrong sky. I knew this instantly when I saw it. We know the day, the date, the time, the weather conditions, the longitude, the latitude, of where the ship sank. There's only one sky she should have been seeing,

and it was the wrong sky. Can you enjoy anything without looking up in the sky and thinking about what? I mean, can I want to be? I watch a football game. I'm not a fan because I'm trying to figure, okay, they score the touchdown. How did they score a touchdown? How did this play game, this yard?

How did they sack the quarterbacks? Shouldn't they have done this and that? Do you watch events? Do you watch things on television and you're looking at the surroundings more so than the event that's actually going on? No, I'm looking at everything. Ingesting everything I can. As just a matter of curiosity, I ingest everything.

I'm watching a football game. I said, oh, the tush push. Interesting physics there. Then I hear people describe it as all wrong. I had to post my own video on the tush push. So what NFL filmed came to my office to film me explaining the push? Yes.

Because everyone got to, they thought Jalen, what's his name? Jaylen hurts. Jalen hurts? Because they say he can squat. Squat six hundred pounds. Had nothing to do with him with the tush push. That ain't got nothing to do with it.

The moment he leaves the ground, what he squats had nothing to do with anything. Because they didn't get no push. Because what matters at that point, once he's left the ground, are the two linemen who feet are on the ground who are pushing each butt cheek. That's who, you want to ask them,

how much can they bench? How much they squat? Right. That's what you want to know because they're the ones doing the pushing against Earth. He's just this floating object there who happens to be holding the ball. Pride is like love.

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How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching. You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? Miss Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defining the odds. Like LeBron Heading and...

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That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, IZAD, you figure it out real quick. Oh, yeah. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball.

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The day we found out that you and the whole crew, was at Hit Factory. The mission was to get me to go to the gate, start freestyling, and see if I could get in the studio. I'm rapping, and then suddenly I hear a voice, hey, open the gate, let him in. The gate slowly went, come, come, come, come, come. They all, they're watching this, and they watch me walk into there, and that is a moment that I will remember for the rest of my life. Listen to laugh but not least with MC Jen starting on June 9th on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. So I had to get set that record straight. So, yeah, no, I Watching and I pay attention.

Yeah. From a physics perspective, which is more impressive? Shooting the three-pointer, throwing a touchdown in the NFL, or a pitcher throwing a strike in MLB? It's got to be the football quarterback throwing... Because think about it. There are people who want to harm the quarterback. Absolutely.

While that's happening. Yeah. Okay? Let's just start there. Then there's this spin-stabilized projectile. Yes. The football. He needs to throw it to where his receiver will be when the ball gets there.

You're right. He's not throwing it at his receiver. Right. He's throwing it and anticipating where you're going to be. The commentators never say this correctly. He threw it to this receiver. No, he threw it to where the receiver and the football would be at the same time. And the guy's got to catch it.

People try to prevent him from catching it. And when he catches it, he wants to still run. Right. So they prevented you from trying to prevent you for doing. There are fewer successful passes in a football game than pitchers throwing strikes. Hmm. You know you're going to cause some confusion with this. No.

No, it's hard to hit the ball. Right. You didn't ask me about hitting the ball. You just said throwing the, throw it up in a bit. Yeah. Throwing a strike. Yeah. What is harder?

To throw a baseball. 100 miles an hour for strike because you're 60 feet 6 inches from the home plate that plate is a little bit wider

than these cards or or shooting a basketball from say 30 feet out a three point shot or

throwing that said football I've had time Dion Sanders said the hardest thing to do in sports is the hit of baseball

I've Joe Jackson who played both sports you still haven't answered me about hitting the ball you're still asking me about the pitcher. Okay. What's the hardest thing to do in sports? To hit the ball.

Here's a conversation. I've wanted to write a play. Yeah. A very short skin. Yeah. You ready? Yes. Okay. There's a baseball player. Yeah. And a golfer. Yes. They don't know anything about each other's sports. Yes. And they're standing there having a conversation. Okay. And the baseball player says, So how fast is the ball moving when you hit it? Not at all. Well, where is it? It's right in front of me. Right.

Right. Okay. Okay? How big is the thing you're hitting it with? It's about... Maybe it's about five times bigger than the ball itself. Are crowds cheering you on? No.

They're silent. They're silent. Because I have to concentrate. How about you? What do you do? How fast is... Is the ball stationary at your feet? No.

It's moving 90 miles an hour. Oh, who threw it? A pitcher. Does he want you to hit it? No. He's doing everything he can to prevent me from hitting it. Right. Okay?

And, well, that clearly takes concentration. Yes. Do they silence the crowd? No. They're screaming at the top of their lungs. Right. You can't get me to respect golf in the face of those facts. Oh, my goodness.

I'm sorry. I can't. And they wearing cleats and somebody else carries their, their, I just can't. Some people out there. The caddies are the caddy carried the clubs. People out there love them some golf. Yeah. I get, I'm there fine, but I don't have to.

Right. Okay. Now, about that. basketball. The rim area is four times the area of a basketball. Wow. You can take two basketballs and drop them through the rim simultaneously. Really? Yes. Yes. That's why people do slam dunks, 360 slam dunks, and it doesn't have to actually be that precise. Right. Because four, the area of this is four times the crossing. area of a basketball. I show this. We have one of my episodes is with the Harlem Globetrotter.

Right. And I pick up, is he still there, a hot shot? There's a guy who's a midget who plays for them. You gotta say, you gotta say little person, a dwarf. Midge is not a thing anymore? No, no. Okay. It's a derogatory term. Even dwarf. No, you can say dwarf a little person. Is that right? They prefer little person, but dwarf is acceptable. Okay, yeah. So one of their players is a dwarf. Yeah. And he's, he's four foot five or something like that. And so, but anyhow, so we picked him up and he had the two basketballs and we showed that two basketballs can fit through the rim at the same time. So, okay, so I'm saying it's easier to make the shot. Right.

That's why in basketball they score, you know, 100 points. Right. Or at least 50 baskets. Right. And, but you don't score 100 runs in a baseball game. Or 100 points in a football game. Yeah. And I'm going to get out of here.

I want to talk about the childhood. When did you know your brain? and as a child, you were different than other kids. I didn't think about it that way. You didn't. But the kids thought about it because their kids know, like, well, damn, Neil knows everything. Well, no, because in school, are you smart in school?

That means you'd get high grades? Yeah. I'd like average grades in school. Average, you... Average doesn't become an astrophysic. Average doesn't get a physics degree from Harvard. or a PhD in astrophysics and all these other these merits, that's not average, Doc.

It graduate Magnusuma over. No, I wasn't any of the Latin graduations. What I did do it, you gave me a full intro there. Yes. What you missed, I have 27 honorary doctorates. Yes. I don't know if that was in there. No.

Yeah. But don't be impressed by that. Be impressed by the fact that I sat through 27 graduations. I want that to impress you. Did your parents know you were different? Did you, I mean, were you a normal child? Only when the only, only later did I look back and say, oh my gosh, hmm, here's what it is. My brother, they put in the Boy Scouts.

My sister, they put in the Girl Scouts. Right. They didn't put me in anything. As a kid, I was very focused. I had hobbies. I had, if you put me in the Boy Scouts, that would get rid of my hobbies. Right. All right?

I built Baltimore airplanes, gliders. I designed them. I just did stuff. Right. I wasn't just out in the street doing nothing. Did you always know that you wanted to be... From age nine, yes. A first visit to the Hayden Planetarium that I now serve as director of.

With sports... Did you play some? Yes. Yes, I did. Okay? And I would later conclude that I played sports and was good at it more for the expectations of society than for my own fulfillment. Black man, oh, don't do an astrophysics thing. We have this, the basketball. Here, here's some sporting things. Do this. And we'll give you a ride home. And we'll give you this. Yes. So I ran pretty fast. Typically, third fastest in my school. I was in ninth grade when I could slam dunk for the first time. Dang.

Yes. I have big hands. So, hold your hands. Yeah. So. Yeah, you got hands. Yeah, yeah. So my hands were about the same size.

Yeah. Oh, that camera probably got it. You got the, so you would. Because dunking. You have to control the ball. Correct. You can't just go up and have the ball float with you. Right.

Right. So that was little benchmarks in my life. And then I wrestle. I started wrestling. In high school, I was undefeated and captain of my team. Wow. And then I got to college. Then you meet corn-fed boys from Iowa.

That's a whole other than other right there. So I had a losing record in college. I was undefeated in high school. Right. But I loved the sport. So I didn't care that I wasn't winning everything. I cared that I had an opponent. And if they beat me, they were better than I was.

And that's reason to try to get better yourself. Correct. Okay. So, and then I, in college, like I said, I continued wrestling. I was also a performing member of three different dance companies. So I also danced. So I did all of this. Yeah.

You've loved a very fulfilling life. Is it a bare fulfilling life? Oh, one other thing? Right. In high school? Yes. One of my friends was ball boy for the New York Knicks. I happened to have the same size feet as Wal Frazier.

Walt Frazier had a Puma contract. Yes, yes. With throw away his Pumas after every home stand. Yeah. My boy went, picked them out. Brought him to you. Brought him to me. I was wearing Clyde, Clyde Frazier's Pumas for,

about a year and a half. Wow. Yeah. That was fun. The size was 12 and a half at the time. So does any, does your brother, your siblings, do they have the capacity of knowledge or? They're not academic, but that's what you mean.

Well, my brother is academic. He's an artist and also academic. He teaches art. Okay. Yeah. And my sister is a complete sellout. She went into corporate America. Okay.

She got an MBA, you know. Somebody's got to make a job. the money. Right, right. And the family. I'm going to get you out of here on this. They say this generation of kids, because it seemed like every generation was getting smarter, and it seemed like this

Gen Z is going to be the first generation that ain't going to happen for. Well, IQ scores have been going up. But they think that was for a different reason. Okay. But I don't think whatever we declare is what

makes someone smart. Okay. It could be different for a different generation because they got other things. They have other values. They got other sources of entertainment. And so, no, I don't want to be entertained the way my parents were entertained. Right. I got my own generation of entertainment. So I'm not that guy who says, get off my lawn.

You young whippersnappers. In my day, we did it right. You guys, I'm not ever going to be that guy. Okay. No. No. But has the computer, the Internet, has it? slow down learning because now you used to have to go to the book you had to do things up.

Go to the library. Yes. Now I could just hit. Chad GPT, tell me. Yeah, so I was at a dinner party once. Yeah. And one of these fancy ones with his servants and things. Yeah.

And I'm sitting next to a guy, kind of geeky, maybe low 30s. He works in tech. Yeah. He asks me, Neil, when? Have aliens visited us? And so I start replying. Yeah. But he's not paying attention.

He's looking down at his phone. And it's rude. So I said, maybe he'll look up. Maybe there's some emergency. But he kept looking down. Right. And after like two minutes, I said, what are you doing? He said, I asked chat GPT how you would answer that question.

And I'm comparing what you're saying to what it is. I said, how am I doing? He said, oh, you're doing fine. If this is the last one, does time accelerate as we get older or does it slow down? No, time is only affected by, I mean, emotionally, psychologically maybe, but if you put timers in you, they're not affected by it at all. Right. And I remember when we were young, summer vacation felt so long.

Yes. You know, and. I couldn't wait to get grown. I'm like, man, I can't wait to get grown. Now I'm like, time, slow down. I was just talking to my sister on the way coming over here. I said, you know what? It goes fast.

We're the age of old people. We used to say, oh, man. I found that out last November. I'm at Thanksgiving, and we usually go to the old people to say grace. And I'm looking around, I'm the old person. Yes. When did that happen? Who authorized?

Who gave permission for me to be the oldest dude at the table? Yep. No. So I had to adjust to that. That was an adjustment. Doc, thanks for coming by. I appreciate you, tag. Man.

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