Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Rod Wave Part 2

Episode Date: August 26, 2026

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Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. How do you get over a heartbreak? How do you deal with how you deal with a breakup? Because this is what I tell people. I say breaking up is easy to do when you're the one wanting to do to breaking up. But it's not,

it's when the other person wants to break up and you're not ready for that relationship to end. That's when it gets hard, Rod, because it's either like, man, I ain't happy no more. You don't found somebody else out there to look a little bit more attractive, they got a little bit, you know, blah, blah, blah.

But when all of a sudden she'd say, well, Rod, I ain't happy. here no more. And you know what I think is best that we go out certain way. Now, babe, hold on. What can I do now that I wasn't doing before? I don't know, dog. I ain't never been in that situation. Then you end up in heart broke? Yeah, yeah, I don't have been heart broke, but I ain't, what, let me think back? I ain't never been in a situation to where it was like, we didn't mutually agree to go out of separate ways. I ain't never been in that kind of situation to where I was like. How you mutually

agreed? So y'all came up at the same time since you know, I want to sit down, I want to talk to you. I want to talk to you too. Well, I think it's best we go out separate ways. Well, I think it's best we go out separate ways, too. Yeah, because if you think that, then it's time to get up out of here anyway. So that's going to help me get up out of here. Because if you are already thinking that, there's nothing going to do for me to try to keep you. Try to make you change your mind. That's already inside your heart and your mind.

You can't do nothing. So that's just going to help me. Bring me up to speed. So if you get ready to go before I am, then that's what's going to make me ready. I'm going to be ready then. that's just the reality. That's just what, like, if she ready to get up out of her, that's going to bring me up the speed.

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Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It might hurt. Yeah. Yeah, it might hurt, but, man, like I said, bro, nothing belongs to us, bro. It's always just your turn, dog. Damn, right. That's just the reality, bro. But it took me a long time to get this, you know what I'm saying?

Because I used to clean up. I used to be real. I don't want to be my turn. I wanted to be mine. It ain't none yours. Ain't none yours, man. I just did my, for the first time I did my, like, my will and my trust and stuff like that. And my estate planning down to your watches, bro.

Yeah, who get what? Who get what? Who get what? The Super Bowl rings, the jerseys. Who get it? So that show you that ain't nothing never yours. What you think, yours. And the thing is, what I've learned is that what I value?

A person, damn sure it ain't yours. Man, please. I'm just saying, like, that might be your person in that time your life. I ain't trying to raid on nobody parade or whatever. Beating the negative nasty. Like, they always try to make me to be. But that's just how I got over it. That's how I react.

You're right. Once I got old enough to. look at it and once I got old enough to like that was the way I had to grasp it because I used to take it real hard and used to used to use to let it affect my worth ethic I used to let it affect me so that was the way I had to tell myself and train my brain like ain't nothing or nobody never yours they don't belong to you but it took but it took you but it took you dealing with heartbreak to realize that hold on this I allowed this person to get me out of who I am now all of a sudden I can't

work like I'm supposed to. Yeah. I'm not the ride that I'm supposed to be around my friends and family. But it made me also, it made me a better person also because now I realize, you know what, nothing belongs to you, nothing, you don't own nothing. So you should treat it that way. You should treat it like it's a privilege to be with somebody. Okay.

You should treat somebody like, you know what, your feeling out of my feeling out of, you're a person, I'm a person. Just because I got the money and I got the most going on in life don't mean that because you got I don't think I'm better than you. You got it going on too. So that's, it helped me. It helped me to, because when I was younger, I used to be like that controlling and boy, this mine.

And I could do whatever. I can stay out all and I could do it. I went thinking about how she at home feeling. Right. She bored. She ain't talking to nobody. She ain't doing it. She want to go out.

You don't think about it. What? You went out and stayed out all that. How you go for you? I went thinking about that part. So once it took for somebody to dip. It took for somebody to be ready. for me to leave for me to be like, you know what?

The next go around, I'm going to treat somebody like, they feel it matter. I'm going to treat you like a human. I'm going to treat you because we both got it going on. I see that now, you know what I'm saying? Wow. Marriage. You want to get married?

I want to get married, but I just don't want to do the... You don't want all the ceremony and all that. Oh, hell, no, yeah. I want to give a girl that, right? Because that's that every girl's dream. Okay. I want to be a part of that. I want to be like the one who made her...

It made her... It made her dream come true, but you can't do that. You can't go to the court. Come on, man, yeah, they can. You can't cut that. You're doing what I was doing. Oh, I was doing that's what I want to do. That's what you want to do.

You got to think about it's from a little girl. She wanted to, but every girl different. Right. Maybe from a little girl, maybe she wanted the big wedding. Big, big, big wedding. Maybe that's what she wanted. Oh, yeah, well, you got a dad. The dad paid for the wedding, though, Ron.

Why, you cold? Yeah, yeah, dad, dad, pay. I just thought we do. You say that's what they want, right? Why you cold with it, boy. That damn pay for that, Rob? Yeah. I don't know.

I got the reception. I got the reception. I mean, to each of his own, man. I just looked at it like, you know, I got to do my part. She's going to do her part. So I'm a hell of the business, you know what I'm saying? So, but every girl that I thought may be like every girl won a big, nice, pretty wedding. So I want to be the one who made that come true.

I want to be the one who helped that dream come true. Right. Because people don't forget stuff like that. That's like, that's like, that's like mental real estate, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm a part of your memories. Like, you know, your big, pretty fancy wedding from a little kid that made come true. I was a part of that. Yeah, never forget that kind of stuff.

And that's why I say when you, the surface level, I got money and you got looks. Because now that we got memory, we got stuff like that. Yeah. And that build trust and stuff like that. So now I know when you're out with your home girls, y'all can go to goddamn Mexico. I know you ain't going to never forget that in your head. So even when time get hard and it's like, you know, you want to go your way, I want to go my way, that's going to always play a part.

That's going to be always in your head. Like, boy, that nigger was a part of that. That nigga, boy, he's been, the memory don't go nowhere. That shit you can't. Just make out sure I get that invite because I know you have some good liquor, good old waggoo steaks. You got that good old stuff that you're wearing, so I know that thing will be real. No, no, we're going to have a, we're going to have a month.

Whenever I, if I do get that, boy, We're going to do it right. They're going to be against a party for sure. You have daughters now. For sure. Having daughters. Did that change the way you look at women? Yep.

It played a major role once I start looking at like, because once I got a daughter and I started thinking about all the things that's out of the world. Now when I deal with the women, I'm like, but there's somebody, somebody looked at this girl. I looked at my baby. This is somebody baby. You know? Yes.

So that's another way how I was able to start trying to treat women better. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's somebody baby. It's somebody daughter, man. So it definitely changed the way I looked at. Wow. What do you try to? What type of father are you?

What type of father do you want to be for your daughters? What type of father do you want? I don't know if you have sons, but what type of father do you want to be for your kids? I just want to always be there, like even if I'm not there. I want you to always have me in your heart because, you know, certain circumstances that was out of your control, out of my control, things that happen I can't take back. So maybe I can't be there.

But I want you, whenever the time may be, I want you to always know in the back of your mind, but my daddy got me. Yeah. I can call my daddy. Did he with me? No matter where I end up in the world that this is my boy. like I got a backing.

I got somebody who, you know what I'm saying? So that's the kind of dad I want to be that. When my kid do get older or even right now, they ever need whatever, I want them to know, like, well, I got a daddy like, well, it all I ain't, you know. How similar are you trying to raise your kids to weigh the way you were reared? Yeah, it's real similar to the way I was raised because, you know, my dad, when the periods when I was younger. He was always in my head. I always remembered him, had memories of him. You know what I'm saying?

And just, you know, life sometimes it be like that. Life be life. It'd be life and for real, you know. Some of us still figuring out life. But no matter where he went, no matter where I went in the world, my old boy was always in the back of my mind or always in my heart. And if I ever talked to him or see him, I got all love for him. So that's just the kind of relationship I want my kid to have with me.

Like, no matter where we end up in the world, no matter what life take us. I want you to know your old boy always here. You got you. You got him. You got him. When Bryce Young went through a situation, he got benching, you said he reached out to you. What did you tell him? That man, Bryce Young, man, we charted, man.

It's a good dude, man. You look at it like, hold on, this man, the number one pick in the draft. He was a starting quarterback for the NFL, and he called him in probably his lowest time. He wasn't really calling me. I really reached out of him. Yeah, I reached out to him. Like, man, bro, hit me, dog. You know what I'm saying?

And they were really, I was just online watching shit. Like, people was posting stuff and relationship stuff. And I just wanted to hit them and let them know, you know. Life go on, dog, you know, you blessed no matter what. You know, other, nobody, no person, no with your value, you know what I'm saying? Right. That don't make you who you is, you're blessed. Right.

This is what you always wanted to do, you know what I'm saying? So I reached out to him. And then we talk and, you know what I'm saying? People just do the most about it, you know what I'm saying? I wish I would have never even publicly did it. But when I went to write him on Instagram, it didn't let me. So I just put it on my story. And when he hit me, I took it down.

But people take it and run with it all the time. But it's a good young dude, man. He made me a real Carolina Panther fan, you know what I'm saying? Favorite athletes? You like football players or basketball players? You know, I'm from football, so we growled up. You know what I'm saying? South and football's king.

I'm from the South, so football always, even though I don't really know like the players and stuff like that. But I always just, you know, been a fan of the football. Like, boy, because you're growing up, even in the neighborhood we were young, like, boy, the little neighborhood started, a nigger running the ball. Niggas always been cool to me, you know. You play ball when you was growing up? Yeah, I played football.

I ain't had no choice, man. My dad came home from jail. and I was getting into some trouble or whatever. He made me play. You're like, man, you got too much time on your hand, man. So he used to pull up at practice, making sure I would the guy he'd be trying to buck. He used to come out of there, make me run,

making everybody be going home. I still be out of running. He was like, you're going to be. So my dad, when he came home in jail, he made me play. I had too much time. But that's what we said about the people in our lives, bro, that just changed our trajectory, changed our path.

You know what I'm saying? Who's your favorite football player? Lamar. El Jack? Lamar Jackson. He just reminded me of some of the young cats when I was growing up. He just like that staple, like, you know, like them young, they probably were too little, too small.

You know what I'm saying? And maybe we thought there was high school stars, neighborhood stars, but in the back of our mind, we knew they couldn't really make it because they were too little. Right. But he ended up making it. And being a quarterback and the head of a franchise. So that was that was I just was room for him for the symbol like what that really stood for you know what I'm saying

Right, well you really made it out there. You did it your way, you know what I'm saying you did it your way Favorite basketball player? Man favorite basketball player But that's a good one right there, like I don't want to put nobody pinons in a bunch Boy that's a good one right there but probably Probably dead row okay that they D roles man young cats young come from the trenches I just always liked it what it stood for it I'd be I'd be more like you know deeper a deeper you know what I'm saying meaning but D Rose man

calm dude chill laid back ball in his ass all that I used to rock with D road I'm gonna name some Florida athletes and I want you to give me your top four you're gonna put them on Mount Rushmore so Dion Sanders Vince Carter Tracy McGrady Warren Sapp Degg Henry Tim Tebow Emmett Smith, Ray Lewis, and Ed Reed. Ray Lewis, Dion Sanders, Vince Carter. Say him again? Tracy McGready, Warren Sapp, Derek Henry, Tim Tebow,

Emmett Smith. Emmett Smith. Orange Sapp. Man, all them boys, all them boys, man. You only get four, Ross. How you'll let you put all the boys up there? Tracy McGready. Man, you're trying to start some shit, man.

put Deion, you got Deion, you quit with Deion and Ray off the real. And then you had Benz Carter, so you ain't got room but for one more. So you got T-Mack, Sam, Henry, Tebow, Emmett, Smith. That's it, that's all you got. Timu, Sal. Put Sal out of that. Oh, I'll let you put, what's you call them, you want to? Lamar.

You're going to put Sal? You're going to put Sam? Yeah, Lamar. I'll put Lamar. Okay. Just for the trenches, you know, just for the young, yeah, just for the, just for the, just for the trends is, man. bro, just for the youth, you know? Because a lot of them guys are a little older, right? Right. But just for, you know, I'm in the youth, man. You know, Lamar. Got to put Lamar out there, man.

Florida, boy. He came, he in the league. He's still rocking and rolling. Lamar. If, were you good at football? I was good at everything, man. You know what I'm saying? You could have went to the league then.

I was too short. I was too small. But you could have been to Aaron Donald. Who knows? too small to play football. I never started. The fuck coach must be... Nah, but now for real, I was too little, though.

You know what I'm saying? But when I got into football, just the brotherhood. I always thought, like, man, those boys, like, sports was lame. I thought when I was younger, like, them guys playing sports. Like, they try hard.

Like, I just thought it was lame. Right. When my dad made me play, I was just so mad. But then when I got on the team and these boys became my real brothers. Yes. And it was just like,

to go out here and it's like we unit we together i just never experienced nothing like that because me and my real brothers we grew up in different houses different i never had that you know i was cool i was cool with my cousin but i never had that kind of pack with a group of guys before so it just that's that changed my whole thought process about our sports it was like my brotherhood it's like my family so i went i started like i played football and i was good at my position i left guard you know what I just I don't know dog but yeah I played I was real you who baseball baseball I played baseball when I was younger and my mom put me in baseball played baseball and I was young I was a friend of self man you gonna play something

you're gonna play sports oh you'll get that down then you even to see the house yeah they ain't doing that and I play football when I was younger too right literally too I used to hate it though my uncle was the coach my uncle was the coach my uncle was the president of the organization. Right. So that is always just being in my blood, you know what I'm saying? Like my uncle was the president of the whole Little League organization. Right.

He ran the whole organization. So I watched him even when I was younger, you know, structuring the business, structuring the organization of the little league. Right. The pads, the jerseys, the way ends, the signups, the, you know what I'm saying? So my, when I was younger, you know, since my uncle was the president, you know, he just made us play. he got to go out there every day.

And he was the coach, coach that IMG. Right. You know what I'm saying? I'm my uncle. So, yeah. I saw your Instagram live where you say you're going to get revenge and them, you're going to get a six-pack. No, for real.

You're going to get a six-pack? Yeah, yeah. You ain't going to get that. It just take too long, man. You ain't going to get that surgery now. No, yeah. No, I ain't doing that. No, I ain't doing no surgery.

But every time I get in the gym, I've been up for like two, three days. And I was like, man, this shit going to take too long. I got other stuff to do. But as recently, now that I'm looking at it, like, you know what, I'm just do a little bit. I'm going to do something every day. Every day, that's it. And then when you look up, two years before I flew past. Flu pads.

See what I'm saying? I ain't doing no surgery, though. I ain't doing that. But I'm saying, you want a six-pack? No, no, I don't know six-pack. Because that all has been my swag, being a bigger dude. Yeah, for sure. I don't got to have no shit, but I don't want to look about 50-60, you know what I'm saying?

50-60? Yeah, yeah, these ninn' going to be in trouble there. Man, you're gonna be like 155 pounds. Nah, yeah, no, man. What you're $250? What's what about the same? About 310, man. 310?

No, you ain't that big, that's not. You ain't no 310. I mean, a lot of it, you know, it's below the waist, you know what, you know what I'm I'm short, bro, so I can't be like, you know, I ain't too short how people think I'm, like they see me, I'm a little taller than they think, but I have to, man. You 310 for real ride? No, no, I probably was when I first started. Right. Since I'd been working and moving around.

Moving around, I probably when I would, I probably like, probably about $2.80, $2.90. So you want to get down to, so you want to get, so you want to lose 50 pounds? You want to get down to $2.30? Yeah, I'm trying to look like you, man. I'm $2.50. So if I look like you, man, they can't stop me. You know what I'm saying? Because then I'm going to be at the shows peeling back on these nigger.

Then they're going to be in trouble. I ain't going to never have no shirt on on that. Come on, man. I'm going to tack the rest of me up. I'm gonna hit it and I'm gonna do all my interview with no shirt on him. So I'm getting closer, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, I see, yeah.

I'm getting there. I'm almost there. So you go, so now you trim up, you get to like 250. You go back and get the grills? Nah, no, I ain't doing. You're done with that. You know, I'm grown man, you know.

It just chopped up my life that I'm on, you know. I'm on a different, you know, I'm grown in. I made that, I did that. You did. Been there done that, I'm good with that. I wouldn't recommend it to nobody, But when I do get that, but I'm probably going to get dressed by three times a day

and just do all my interviews. But you know guys are actually doing that. I ain't know that was a thing until like four, five years ago. The guys be getting that liposculpting. Yeah, yeah. And I could have been there that. But you like to work for the stuff, though, man.

That ain't no work. Because I don't want to just have to look. I want to have the whole mind frame. The mind frame. I want to bill it. I want the wind. I want all that, you know. I want that, yeah, I want the energy.

and just what it do, you know, it's a whole, it's a lifestyle, you know what I'm saying? Right. Have you seen the AI video or you out there dancing? Yeah, I ain't seen that one. Will, Will. I ain't seen no, but that AI shit crazy, man. It's starting to blur the line. You can't really...

You can't really tell what's real. I mean, it's sad now, Rod, that when you look at something, you're like, is this really real? Is that really, is that really, is that really what's going on? Is this real image? It's hard. It's hard to know what's real and what's fake. Yeah, and then you see a real video. I'd be like, damn, if this is real or not?

That's crazy, man. Right. There's a lot of money in that stuff, though, man. That tick, but it's going to end up taking a lot of jobs, man. We got to put a clamp on it, man, slow it down, moving a little too fat. You once rap, Jeezy told us trap or die and told us son to go to college. Jeezy did you up after that life. Yeah.

When I was younger, man. But you know who told me that line of my dad? Right. Because remember, I told you when I was younger, but when my dad was in jail, I used to look up to a lot of rappers and stuff. So my dad said that line to me, like, Jesus told us, he was talking about himself.

Right. He told us, Trapper Die. And he pointed at me, like, he told his son to go to college because I was just watching the way my dad lived. And I thought that was cool how he was living. Right. So he always was like, like, don't think I'm being too hard on. He's what I'm supposed to do.

I'm your dad. Right. And I won't better for you. He told us Trap or die, but he told his son, he pointed at me. And he had a shirt that said, Trap or die on it. Like, gee shit. So he's like, Gigi told us Trap or die. But he sold his son to go to college.

He was pointing at me. He was just telling me like, all that rap. Shit, you told him what I'm doing? That shit, not real, bro. And he basically just telling me like, nigger, we was misled. Like, I'm supposed to try to teach you the right way. Right way.

You should be thankful that you, that got some like me to tell you the right way to go. Because I always were like, man, this nigga doing too much, man. When he got home, because I was just so used to being, doing what I wanted to do, I was running all over my mama. So when he got back, when he got home, I just was like, man, this nigga doing too

much, like he's going too hard. And I was like, it's too late, bro. I'm already got my mind made. Yeah, yeah. He was like, hell no, no it ain't. He was like, no it ain't. So do you have a, do you have a great appreciation now? Because how do you, how different do you think your life?

would have been had your father not come back into your life because like you said you had started you had got your mind made up you've started hanging with the wrong crowd and you had your mind made up like your mom were gonna be able to control you like you because dad it's something about a dad yeah and my dad was a screeed guy so all the stuff I was trying to do here and I did it three four times right when I would tell me so and I'd be like man you old you know just talking and then I had to see it for myself and he was like I told you bro I already told you this and then he was at to tell me like on where you're going it's going to get uglier so once I realized the stuff he was saying was like real I was just like oh shit and it and it changed my whole trajectory I probably wouldn't even be even he brought uncle Derek into my life you know what I was his friend that was his close friend so I wouldn't even know Uncle Dee without him you know what I'm saying have you met Jeezy yeah yeah I met Jeezy it's so crazy because me and could D had a concert you know back then he used to have these concerts with like 20 artists on the show on the ticket or they still do that but I was one of the openers yeah and I met with it me on it was on

federal parole so I he used to like let him bring my gun and she used to go do show at the time when I was younger right right and uh geez was there and he was like uh we was leaving he was feeling he was ready to go on the state two guys came on like hey right who oh oh oh oh I want to holl at you So then I turned around and was like, Hey, Jesus wanted to talk to you. Uh-oh. And then Jesus came out and he just, me and he was right there.

Yeah, you love. But my uncle ain't know. I had him a little piece shooter with me. You know what I'm gonna sneakie with me. Yeah. If he found out, he'll trip out because he was on. He was on phil and yeah, they come snatching.

Yeah, and this was about like six, seven years ago. I was a whole other person mentally and where I'm at today, right? But, but we talked and he was just like, man, I got kids, bro. And he's like, Jesus, like, I got kids and I got a son. And stuff I was saying back then, that's why I was at then. You know what I'm saying?

And then I had kids and stuff like that. I never really told Jesus like, man, my daddy told me that, you know what I'm saying? I just was like, all right, bro, you know what I'm saying? It's all good. And we shook, man. He was just like, man, bro, keep going. You're a young dude. You're going to be successful.

I'm rooting for you, bro. I don't got no problem with you. And that's why I let on I came and say, when I came in a song he was like, Gigi told me no hard feelings homie do your thing

God they told me stay focused and you can use your brain and the thing that brought told me I'll take to my gray that what I was talking about I said

Gizi told me no hard feelings homie do your thing because we end up talking right before I took off you know what I'm saying Yeah that's right

pulling me to the side just with like man little bro you know what I'm Stay out of mess. Stay out of drama. You know what I'm saying? Just do your thing.

Right. And I just, that's real. I had my P-shooter on me, though, if he- Just in case. Just in case if he wanted to take it, though, you know what I'm saying?

Man, that man didn't want to take it there, right? No, he was a business man. He was, where I'm at today, I could see where he was in. That's where he was in. I could totally look at that situation. I could see it.

Nah, you know? I was just young and just, you know what I'm saying? On that type of time back there. You know what I was on that? I didn't say, but, yeah. Growing up in Florida, what was it like growing up for you in Florida? It was hot.

It was real hot. Boy, it was hot. Some was, he's walking some long miles, man, sweating. Kids don't walk no more like they used to, man. You don't get out of the house. They don't play like we used to, right? I was outside. I mean, you were way younger than I am,

but we were outside. We couldn't come in no house and play no video game. You had to drink water. You couldn't drink out the house. You had to drink out the holes. Out of the water hole. You had to let it run for about 15 minutes

before the sort of water cool out of it would burn. See, growing up in Florida, though, what I realized, though, like, it made me so much, you know what I'm saying? Like, when I go to other places and people, they love to visit Florida, they love to go to Florida.

You know what I'm saying? They love to spend time in Florida, move to Florida. So growing up in Florida kind of made me a little more like, it's all kinds of people. And I'm pretty sure, like, everyone, New York, you know what I'm saying?

It's all kinds of people. A lot of islanders and stuff. But just for me, my story, You know, growing up in Florida, though, it was so many different demographics and, you know what I'm saying? Shapes and colors and races are people, dog. And I just, you know, it's white people, black people, Spanish, people, Haitian people. Just all kind of people, dog, that you meet, you know what I'm saying? And just made me so ready for the world, made me so fast.

Because when I got it in the world, I knew how to switch it up. I know how to sit on the couch with Shannon Sharp and talk this kind of talk. Yeah. And I know how to put on some nice clothes or whatever and go into a meeting. with micro-pinole nation and talk they talk so and I know how to go to Mexico and the people whatever like I just so it's like it just it made me so about it made me so diverse you know what I'm saying it made me so fast and I didn't notice it until I got out in the world you know what I'm saying you've heard the chaos now you can see it hello my gosh watch all your favorite

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they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head? How about we flip this script? What is the surprise woman? Actually, you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird.

This entire time, you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never expect. I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you.

I was like, is that weed? Nope. It's fragile masculinity. Mm-hmm. Ben Stiller, no. Because a lot of times, out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, it's so stupid.

Everyone's so dumb. And fake. Right, fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally, He loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

On the new podcast Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinero, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people, and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is, and not the lies you're sold about it.

It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book you. your first trip. I hope you listen to Solita on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hoda Kotbvi, host of the podcast Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby. If you know me, you know, I'm always searching for inspiration and useful tools to maximize joy. So this podcast lets us uncover those things together through meaningful conversations with fascinating people. Like when my friend Henry Winkler offered advice to aspiring actors and really anybody hoping to stand out. You're not hired just to fill time and space.

You're hired to fill the space with you. You have something in your guts. You go with it. And Sean Johnson recalled the moment she realized her now husband, Andrew, was the one. He was just so unapologetically himself and knew nothing of Hollywood. He hadn't been on a plane before without his family. It was so pure. Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Do not use my hard work to sell your bull. They're not just opposing what's being planned for here. Our hometown is not a test tube. They feel like they're standing in opposition to an entire administration. Guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you? Listen to our town on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you were growing up, you got in some trouble. You got into robbing, breaking in the homes at a young age. Yeah.

How did you get in that? Was it because your dad wasn't around? Because it seems like when your dad came home, he cut all that out. Yeah, it was about around around that time. It's about right around the same time. So, you know, I was getting into that and he kind of just grabbed me and was like, bro, that's what junkies do. Like, from our era, that's what he was where was from our era.

That's what junkies and people who live on the street, the scum of the earth, bums, that's what they do. And because you ain't breaking a dope boy's house and street guy, you're breaking an innocent, whole outworking people's house. Stitting from them. You're like, that's what junkies. do. And so he was just like, you backwards. If you're going to do this, if you want to be in a street, that ain't how you do it. And he would just making fun of me like, man, you're lying. Like, you're doing it. But it broke. He was trying to break that street mentality. Like, you're not going to be a street guy. You're not a street guy. Right. Like, you think you know what

you're doing what you don't. And all these little young kids, you run around with they don't. Some of their daddies ain't even that. So it's like, he was just trying to tell me then, like, cut it, bro. Even if you is going to do that, that ain't how you do it. Right. So when I was doing it, he just made me feel so low because I did care about how he looked at me, you know what he, how he felt about me. So when he kind of just told me like, bro, you're doing like scum of the earth stuff,

you're breaking an innocent, hardworking people house. You're lame. Like, that's not why we do this. We get money and take care of the community, all kind of stuff, give back to the jits and people, hardworking people. We kind of like, you know, my dad. kind of like a he's like a man a revolutionary type of guy even though he was in a street he did what he did but he was he like real you know revolution so he just was like but you doing lame

stuff that ain't you too in a rush take your time let your let your self-developed you know what saying you're too in a rush you should be worried about school and girls and stuff like that right you're trying to get rich stick quick it ain't going it ain't going to never work you ever work. You ever get caught? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I only got caught one time I got in trouble. You got to go to the juvie? Yeah, that's the time when he was like, bro, you're lame.

Came and got me. It was like, you're doing lame stuff. And I just never did it again. Because once he called it lame, I was just like, it's lame. Yeah. Once he was like you. Your father was a big influence on your life. Because even though even though he was away and you know, I mean, you probably heard or some of the things that he did to get put away. But your father influenced you because

a lot of the good that we see in you, your father pulled it out of you. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. And he always could see the bad in me too, like, and seeing himself, like he always tells me like, your temper. Because, you know, that's what took him away. Yeah. You know, his temper, what he did, you know what I'm saying. So he always telling me like, bro, your temper, you got to work on that. You got to, and even as a man coming into a man, he still have, he still have an influence on me, you know what I'm saying?

Like if I'd speak with him and he'll tell me certain things and they'd be like, damn, that's exactly what I needed to help, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Just because he knows, I mean, he's my dad. Right. Do you ever think about like, you know what, your dad was in a situation and here you are traveling down that same path? Did you feel like, man, here I am falling the same.

My dad foot stuff. I ain't really trying to do that. Yeah, that's exactly what it was, especially like when I was younger and I would get in trouble and he was like, Like, bro, the next time you do it, it ain't gonna be no next time. Like, you gonna go where I just came from. It's jits up there, your age, just like that. And they tough into you, brother, and they wit that,

whatever you think you with that, you're gonna have to prove that. So he just, you know, he scared me up when I was younger and he put it in me like, you know what? I'm feeling to try to make something out of my life do something positive with my time. man, because it's a system in place that is sometimes inevitable, it's unbeatable, you know what I'm saying, from where I was from. Right. Because I couldn't throw a football or, you know what I'm saying? Shoot a basketball.

It was like I was. You might have been a good football, I was in a small. You've got to talk that, Rod, you got to talk that thing. I was a little fast, too, for real. I got away a lot. You used to speed for the wrong fatal, Rod. No, you can look it up. You can look how fast I was a little quick, man.

I would quit, man. Did your family create a space because you seemed like you were very open and honest and talking about your feelings? Have your family always created that space for you to be able to talk open and honest about yourself, about your feelings, about your emotions? I feel like they tried, like my mama tried, but I never. I'm like one of the people I can't just talk about what made me feel away or how I feel. I can't really talk about that kind of stuff, you know what I'm saying?

The music, once I turned to the music, it was like, I was venting and getting it all a lot and people probably heard stuff in songs like that they never heard me say in real life. So it was like the music what really opened up like a, opened up like a portal like I was able to open up to it. it just kind of, it kind of took a turn for the worst ones. Like I got the backlash from it like, oh, this is why people don't talk about what they thinking or what they're feeling, you know? Yes. Because people try to take it and twist it and they try.

Especially black, we're taught to suck it up. We talk to be tough. We talk not to cry. We talk not to cheer our emotions, not to talk about our feelings. Some of our women, man, they, they're strong on us, boy. Like, be like, shut up, be, you know, cry, baby. And I'd be like, damn. You know, but some of a lot of our women, dog.

I wish it wasn't. I wish it wasn't like that. But we played a part in that too, you know what I'm saying? We hurt a lot of them. Yes. We betrayed a lot of them. So maybe it's got to start in the route, you know what I'm saying. Well, we got to do change.

Maybe we've got to listen to them and listen to their problems so that we could be reciprocated. Why do you think Gen Z is so depressed? What's going on? What's going on in the world? that's so depressing. I mean, there's always been issues in the world. I mean, there's always been crime. There's always been homelessness. There's always been people, hunger. There's always been things that are maybe now because of social media, maybe now they're more focused on it, that people talk about it more than what it was. But there's not a, there's not a problem that's

arisen now that didn't happen when I was a child. Same problem. Not really, though, because it's social media, bro. A lot of these kids, they're comparing. They're self to a fake image a lot of these kids is comparing their they self to something that isn't real and I feel like that's why I come in at with the you know nothing about me is perfect or not the way I look not the problems I feel the stuff and I feel that's why a lot of people can relate to it or they they kind of like they can rock with it because it's it let them know like look at this person like he know where near perfect and he's successful he's cool you know what I'm saying he's

He's just him. He's not trying to be nothing else. He's not trying. Whatever people say about me, whatever how they feel, it is what it is. It don't change nothing. And to show that how successful I became and overcame and conquered and came up by it and healed from it.

Right. For kids all over the world to see that and be like, damn, it's okay. It's all right. Not to be perfect. People are not really perfect. You know what I'm saying? Right. I feel like that's the problem, though.

A lot of them is holding themselves to stand. standards that really don't exist in the real world. Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. A guy that was on your tour that you, um, Little Papa committed, tragically took his life. Yeah.

When you got that news. Yeah, I love, bro, I really couldn't even believe that shit, though. It's so crazy because I feel like, bro, in life it's like, so many signs and warnings, all. I'm one of them kind of people, like, when I look back like that, and I was a sign, dog. Like I was just scrolling on TikTok from like a, from like I got like a regular account. It's not really my, it's like I don't follow nobody. Zero follows a TikTok account. I just be scrolling.

But I believe in algorithm and stuff where your feed feeds you things for a reason. And just that night, though, I was just, you know what I'm saying? Scrolling on TikTok and it was a video popper outside of a show standing outside of a truck, him in like two guys. And I remember that being the last video I saw before I went to sleep. And I woke up to that and it felt like a dream because Zoe, one of my managers who dealt with one of his managers directly personally, texted to me and I was just half sleep.

So when I seen it, I saw it and I went back to sleep. And I just thought it was a dream because I remember like that I were watching that before I went to sleep. And I just like maybe it was just dreaming and shit. But when I woke up, my brothers and all my people who rocked with him from my camp because we were on tour together. Right. So a lot of people from my camp who took a real,

like it to him they was telling me like man that's crazy you know and and then I went to his page to make sure it was real like the last thing he posted was like one of my songs that uh like a song that I was snippet in and stuff that I never dropped I just think it's so crazy dog like the world's so tough on you dog you know what I'm saying the world's so tough on people bro people so people take people for granted man that shit just be everybody don't know how to deal that shit, man. You said there were signs, you think there were signs that you possibly missed that you could have a conversation with or something that could have changed or the outcome?

Yeah, because, bro, we were on tour together. Yeah. And I never really was, you know what I'm saying, interacting with the people on tour. Like it was the last lap tour when things were not going good, like things were falling apart. So I was focused on fixing what were going on on the tour and stuff that I really didn't get to bond with them for real. It was two or three times where we talked and we finally pulled up on me and you know, I never do that with people. So I felt like I was like, you know what I'm saying, doing a lot.

Right. I really want to look back at it, maybe I want to doing enough, you know what I'm saying? Because I really, I really, I didn't been there, you know what I'm saying, how you felt. So maybe I could have did more talk to him. You know what I'm saying? Let them know how to kind of deal with things. Yeah. I don't even know.

It's some time where I'd have made it out of a situation where it was like, you know, Like, I can't believe I made it out of us. So I don't, I'm not really into, like, giving advice and stuff like that. Right. Because everybody's life different and shit, but if you look at it, if you really think about it, it's not, it's all the same. So I don't know, that shit really just, I couldn't believe that shit was real. That shit was so crazy. I couldn't even, like, it didn't really hit me to like two days later because, you know, my uncle died the same way, passed away the same way.

So it was like, I just don't understand. That was a lot, though. It's crazy, bro. Like, it's crazy how many people, like, people be going through stuff. And then you got them kind of people who just, like, they ain't into, like, you know, pity parties or feeling bad for them. Yeah, yeah.

Telling how they feel that's how I am. Yeah. Like, I just deal with my stuff in my head, you know, and sometimes people ain't with them. Can nobody save them? Because they don't want to, they don't want to. Right. They deal with it.

their self. So it's our job to look at each other, though, help each other and I would be there for each other. Right. Because everybody's not going to tell you they need help. Or be receptive, or be receptive when you're talking to them about it. We all be just so focused on our own problems. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's like there I was walking. It's like the movie, um, fault in our stars where the girl is, uh, she accounts of a patient and she's sick and she's dying and she just like the world just revolve around her and people should be thinking about her and she's so sad and then her boyfriend die. You see what I'm saying?

And it's just like, damn, everybody going through shit. Yeah. It's not this about me. Yeah, everybody going through something. Everybody going through something, bro. So when I was around him and we was on the last lap tour and it was falling apart and the tour was not, we was canceling dates and I was in the middle of dealing with it, I just felt like, you know what, I'm dealing with this.

I'm dealing with, my problems is what's going on. I'm dealing with this. People should be telling me it's going to be okay. People should be trying to help me help. But it's like everybody going through something, bro. Yeah. Nobody.

So that situation really woke me up. Like, you have to, bro. You got to check on your strong friends, man. The people who are always there for other people. Yeah. The people who always lifting up other people, you got to check on, dog. Make sure they good.

Because even like my uncle Derek, he would like to, I, to the, man, it took me so long to like, man, I was a conspiracy, but somebody did that, a flip, but ain't a way in hell he did that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

I couldn't even wrap my head around it. But, bro, people, people go through shit. People go through stuff. Nobody, because they're the one who always dealt for people. They always, yep. They always dealt for other people. They always giving people they flowers

and making sure other people scrape. Nobody makes sure they're good. That would hurt the most, dog, when you think about your cell, like, what, what about our ton together could I have done better, dog? Like, little brother, then I go back and look at a little brother right down my feet. And I just, I don't know. I don't know, doc, because I just always be like, you know, my problems, my music, my my this, my that.

And little brother took a liking to me, like, he really rocked with me because of you. of that. He loved what I stood for and he was just always telling me like, man, your music, daw, you know, it's so damn, bro. You know, you need to, bro. He used to just hit me sometimes and text me like, man, I just want to listen to it, bro. Send me a song

or son. I just want to hear it, bro. I just I don't know. I wish I could but can't take it back. Same thing with my uncle. I wouldn't even call an uncle none, dog. He was right there the whole time going through what he's going through.

And I wasn't even done for them. You know what I'm saying? That's why you got to just beat up for people, though. Celebrate your pride with the station that's as bold, vibrant, and diverse as you are. Iheart Pride Canada. From dance anthems to pop icons and hits from 2S LGBTQ plus Canadian artists. It's the soundtrack that keeps life loud and proud. Just ask your smart speaker to play IHeart Pride Canada.

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How about we flip the script? What is the surprise woman? Actually, you think the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird. Adam Scott, this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never expect. I have. I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it.

I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you. I was like, I was like, is that weed? Nope, it's fragile masculinity. Ben Stiller, no. Because a lot of times out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is.

You know what I mean? They're like, oh, what's a state. Everyone's so dumb except for you. And fake. Right, fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

On the new podcast Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone. as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinero and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of

yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hoda Kotbby, host of the podcast Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby. If you know me, you know I'm always searching for inspiration and useful tools to maximize joy. So this podcast lets us uncover those things together through meaningful conversations with fascinating people. Like when my friend Henry Winkler offered advice to aspiring actors and really anybody hoping to stand out. You're not hired just to fill time and space. You're hired to fill the space with you. You have something in your guts. You go with it.

And Sean Johnson recalled the moment she realized her now husband, Andrew, was the one. He was just so unapologetically himself and knew nothing of Hollywood. He hadn't been on a plane before without his family. It was so pure. Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Our town is small taters by most standards, right? But to the people who grew up here, it's everything. What happens when a quiet Tennessee town becomes the front line in a battle over the future of America?

Developers with right-wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land in the area. The first thing you see when it pops up is pioneers in Appalachia. But they weren't just planning houses. We need cities on a shining hill that exemplify and embody the Christian way of life. Stop right there. Is that normal? A podcast about what happens when a small town becomes the site of a society of a social. social experiment. God need men to rule.

Great. And decides to fight back. Do not use my hard work to sell your bull-h-h- They're not just opposing what's being planned for here. Our hometown is not a test tube. They feel like they're standing in opposition

to an entire administration. Guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you? Listen to our town on the I-Heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Kevin Gates, one of your favorite rappers. has openly spoken about mental illness and talking to it.

And you said, you're like, I go through stuff. I deal with it in my own. I don't really feel comfortable talking to anybody in and everybody about my situation. I just deal with it in my own head and handle it the best way I know how. That way you said? No, I'm saying you. Kevin, he doesn't got no problem talking about it. I'm just listening to you talk.

You say, you know, you deal with it yourself and your own. Yeah, because when I, I just feel like, brother, the world is such a, it's so strong on you, you, dog. So the world so strong are you, I don't be looking for no sympathy for real. That's what people don't understand. Like, I'm just dealing with it myself because I feel like nobody really care about that kind of stuff. Because everybody dealing with their own problems or everybody done got dead, certain kind of ways. Everybody were revolving around them.

So I never really speak. I don't, I just deal with my own shit. Find my own ways. Right. This life shit, man, it's tricky, dog. You know what I'm saying? It's real tricky, though. The drug culture in rap, why do you think it is?

Because you got, is it the performing late so late at night? I mean, you're on stage 10 o'clock. You come on stage at 9.30, 10 o'clock. You up, you up all hours. So basically, you up all night. Sleep because that's an unnatural. For the most part, that's an unnatural clock. Your clock, your body goes like, okay, it's time to go to bed.

It's time to go to bed at 10 and 10 o'clock. You've got to be at your highest. When it's normal people, when most people go into bed. Yeah. And then in that never-ending cycle, you never like to try tonight. Then it gets harder and harder for you to sleep and harder for you to have a regular life. Yeah.

Shit. I don't know, bro. You can't. The drug culture probably came from the image, you know what I'm saying? Just the image of growing up. looking at the rappers and it was cool, didn't really understand why they were doing it or what they were doing it for.

But sometimes once you tap into something, it'd be hard to shake it, so I can't really explain why other people do stuff. Right, what, they, you know what, they, you know what, I'm saying, but I come from drug addict background, you know, I got family members and stuff who, you know, went that way and never came back, you know what I'm saying? So I've always tried to steer away from it, you know what I'm saying?

I'm trying to, because that's, that, that, A lot of my family, that was a, that was a lifestyle. A lot of them got lost and a lot, I growed up watching that and I always knew, but I never wanna be like that. You know what I'm saying? My dad was another thing, my dad always taught me,

like, you can't play with drug, you can't do experiment with drug because it's a proven fact in our DNA, our daughter, brother, like our family, drug did too much to our family, to, you know what I'm saying, to be experimenting and playing around with it. So if I ever speak, spoke about it in my past or if i ever you know what i'm saying i wouldn't never like glorifying it or

you know what i'm saying i just was painting the picture so that people can understand what i'm coming from you know what i'm saying yeah for sure but that ain't nothing to really glorify a lot of people experiment with stuff and they're not um physically able to shake it like so don't even step your toe in the water because you know how you might react to it because we're doing a show called the capital And it takes place in the 80s, 90s with a group of teenage boys, their life experiences on the war on drugs, right? And it shows the good, but I wanted to talk about the bad and the ugly. So a beginning part of the show shows the money, the life, the cars, the clothes, the females.

But it's small hints in there. So in the beginning, the first opening scene, the kid is watching high school Lynn Byers. See what I'm saying? Yeah. And he's watching them. and then he go get his day started, but it's like an Easter egg. So I'm trying to paint.

And then in the middle of the show, like third or fourth episode, it's the, on the radio, the commentator talking about the limb bias passing and stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? So just painting a picture on what the war on drug, what drugs really did to our culture,

our community, you know what I'm saying, to really paint a vivid picture. You know what I'm saying? And I say that when you talk about, you know what I'm saying, drugs and stuff like that. Some people should know, even experiment to play with it because it ain't for nobody it ain't for everybody it ain't it ain't nothing to play with it dog so the lend by his story is one of them things that i really

wanted to paint a vivid picture on what drugs really did our people do that our community ravities our communities and and how they hide it how they get more and more easier to hide it but they still they're not good though you know what i'm saying let's pyramid how do you become how do you build a relationship with Ryan Coogler? It was through the music. So I guess I feel like maybe Ryan was a fan of the music, like when I met him. He told me he really liked the music

and that he related to the music or whatever the case may be. And he was working on the movie centers. Yep. Yeah, exactly. Right. And he wanted a song for the movie. And he felt as if my sound

or he felt as if I fit the I fit the description or I was the best guy for the job to make the sound he was looking for right so he reached out to my team and I had a guy that wasn't my first time like with movies

and people wanted me to do a song and stuff like four five six other movies but I just it was I just didn't I just it wasn't like cool to me you know what I'm saying it was like this tasteful like it wasn't

and really cool movies and it was just whacked to me. And so when that came along and I realized who he was because I didn't know him by name. But when somebody told me like, you know, the background and stuff that he did and his story, I was just like, you know, I'm just always with that. And I was like, well, you know what? Let me watch the movie.

And if I, if I, so that way, because I want to do it. Right. Right. But if I watched the movie, maybe it would help me Yeah, come up with my process. Yeah. So when I watched the movie, dog,

sinners, dog, it fucked me up so bad to the point where I had to watch, I was like, I had to make up a, I had to make up a story to watch it again because I wanted my girl to come like, man, you got to watch DC. I wanted my engineer.

I wanted everybody to be there. So I was like, oh, you know what? Let me watch it one more time tomorrow and then I'm going to have a song. So we came back the next day, I watched it again. I brought my girl. And that was probably like 8 o'clock

at night and maybe like four o'clock in the morning I cut the song my engineer we came to the house I made the song sent it to Ryan and that was the beginning of our relationship wow that's incredible and uh your song was nominated for a Grammy but unfortunately he had some some bad news the day of the announcement yeah yeah yeah yeah it's so crazy because I wasn't even uh expecting that to do what it did for the Grammys and all that Like I knew the campaign for the movie was big and that it was going places. But I was it caught me off guard with the Grammy thing and then you know, then so the other nominees, K-pop and all that.

Yeah. I was like, boy, it's some competition, some big competition. But it was just an honor. It was a blessing to be able to even be nominated to be recognized, you know. But it didn't dampen your, it didn't dampen your spirit did it in that situation? No, no, no, no, because I had already won. Right, just to even be nominated. Right.

That was a, I wasn't even expecting that. So I was, I was cool. I didn't watch it or nothing. Like, I just, just happy to be a part of it, man. When did you realize you could sing? When did you realize you had a voice? Just when other people would say something about it, like, other people would be like, like, I would, I had a problem with just blurting out singing when I was younger. Okay.

I just bust out singing. If it was awkward silence or if it was quiet, I would just start. singing or whatever and when other people would tell me like boy you sound good well uh who song is that uh damn boy what that you know what I'm saying right so other people would tell me like oh you need to go to church or you need to join the church or something like that you know what I'm saying and that's like right there is it true you used to borrow Wi-Fi the Fast Food Spot the Upload music what's it say uh steal you Wi-Fi you borrowed you didn't steal you borrowed Wi-Fi upload your music on YouTube and stuff when I was younger.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Used to borrow the Wi-Fi, the free Wi-Fi. Just to go to the little restaurant to upload the music. The fast food spot? Yep. Yeah, I used to work a little job and stuff, but on the clock, man, I still still the Wi-Fi next door. Drop my song.

Did you used to a DM artist? Like, hey, take a listen to this, man. Yeah, yeah. Anybody respond back? Not back then, no. Now if you DM somebody, they go dig or ding on. People come back and respond nothing from me. Come on, man.

You say, bro, I sent you that in 2020, bro. I'm good, nah. No, no, it's 2016. 20, damn. People in 2020, when I first got into gospel, would come back. Like, damn, bro, I never saw this. Damn, bro, it's crazy. So people, I used to just send it to everybody when I was on my mixtap.

Yeah. I used to just send it to everybody on the DMs. And then when I first blow it up in 2020, people was responding back to it. Like, damn, dog. Then I'm on a sign you and all this shit. He said, nah, it's too late. I gave you that chance. Yeah, we're here now.

Your first performance was at the strip club. You was 17. Yeah, I was 17. Yeah, I had school in the morning. My dad took me to that. Damn. Yeah, because he was one of the guys like, you know, he loved music too.

Right. So once I started making a, I start making noise in the neighborhood and in the city, he was like, boy, we might got something because, you know, at first he wasn't a fan of it. He was like, man, all that rapping and stuff you've seen on TV ain't real. Like, ain't no rapping.

None of that real, dog. We're really living like this, and they rap about our life. You know what I'm saying? Right. So when I was trying to be a rapper and stuff, he was like, it just don't happen for us. Right. But when I started making noise in the city,

because I still just did my own thing. And he was just like, it's a hobby, bro. It ain't whatever. So I still did it. And once it caught some traction, my dad was like, boy, we might need to put some gasoline on this far. So, you know, he would, you know what I'm saying, go out and book, pitch it, pitch gigs and stuff. And people would book me. But I was so young, so I had to have a chaperone just like by law.

Right. When people wanted me at, they strip clubs or do parties and stuff. Right. I was too young. So I used to have to, and that's what, sitting in the car, until it's time for me to get on the mic coming and performing and leaving. That's what I really started at.

Right. Because that ended up being like my formula to stardom, to being a star. Like, you never really get to see me. Right. So I used to have to sit in the car because I was too young. Right.

So when I went in the strip club, the promoter like, bro, you can't be in here until, unless you're ready to wrap. So I just had to sit in the car and they tell me, all right, come on. I come in that route and now he used to have to leave. You ain't get a chance to see nothing. But, you know, as I grew up, you know, the same guy would book me and stuff,

and I started being able to hang out. And, you know what I'm saying? We built a relationship, so I used to be able to cool it. And I remember one time when I was young and I had school the next day, and it was about two, three in the morning. And my dad would drop me back off at the house. And my mom wouldn't let me in the house. Come on, man.

What shall mean, hell, boy. She didn't want to let me in the house, man. 17 outside, man, thugging late night. Boys in the highs, man. You posted that you were looking for future type beats and Metro Boomin responded. Did you end up working with Boomin? No, I met him.

I didn't get to work with him, though. I definitely met him, though, for sure, cool dude. Would you like to work with it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just, you know, I just be so, when it's time to create and make music, I just be so, like, in my own ways. Yeah, I'd be so in my own ways that, I probably won't experiment till like 80% of the album done.

Right. Make sure I got the, you know what I'm saying? Beans and potato. Make sure I got the stuff that... You got the foundation of what you're looking at. And then I would experience and experiment. And then maybe like people's schedules or people, you know what I'm saying? Time frame don't match up.

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Like if you think about the early 2000s, people in the 90s was lost. They thought it was dead. Right. In 2010 and stuff, when auto tune and stuff came out, the people from the early 2000 thought it was dead. And now today's time where it's at, the youth and how it is and the way people dress and acting and singing then, the older people might think it's dead, but it's never going to die.

It might innovate, it might change, but it'll never die. R&B. Was R&B dead or alive? Or dying? I ain't heard, no, I ain't heard no good R&B. long time, boy, that's a good question right now. They used to have them, they used to have jagged edge and 112. Because that's what, but shit like that, it'll never die.

Yeah. It'll never die because that stuff still exists. As long as you can go back and listen to it, as long as it's still there. Well, we're going to be, we're going to get the next, we're going to get the next crop coming up. That's why you got to, that's why people like me brought my arms around the youth and try to be a part of the next generation, even like with the film culture. It was dying, you know what I'm saying, until things like are obsessed when people finally invest in the culture, the youth. Right.

People who were, you know what I'm saying, who was big fans of, you know what I'm saying, the early 2000s in the big movies and the sci-fi stuff. And these guys are now adults now and they now are writing, directing, editing, and people have to lean towards it. You can't pull away from it. You can't hide the keys and pass the keys who you want to. You have to go with the times. go with the innovation, you have to go with it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

As long as people do that, as long as people with the ball, dog, stop being so stuck in their ways and just lean towards it, man. Lean towards the youth. Lean towards the new generation. Just because you can't understand it, just because it ain't how you growed up or how you look at things or just because you can't wrap your head around it, don't mean it's wrong.

Right. Don't mean it ain't what's going on, you know, because at once some point of time, you was the young, what was popping and older guys was looking at you all sideways. Correct. It's like you have to be able to understand that

and wrap your head around that, that's what a smart investor or a business guy would do, right? They find young guys like Sam Altman when he was a kid and big companies like Microsoft and all these older companies invest in the youth. Right? They grabbed him when he was 16 and say, this is the future. Elon Musk, Space Edge, started in 2001.

It's 2026. He still ain't been to the moon yet. But these guys, older guys, leaned towards them and understood that the next group, the next wave of innovators, they out there. And they're right now in the basement and they just love it. They wake, they love, they eat, sleep, and breathe it. Whether it's football, basketball, technology. Um, film, whatever, whatever the case may be, brother, the youth is the future. You know what I'm saying?

And people have to, if you feel like something is dying or if you feel like something is dead, what are you doing about it? You know what I'm saying? If you are in that space and you can change something or you can fix something, you should be doing what, like what I'm doing. Right. And trying to change and be a part of the future, not trying to inject. That's myself in the future by closing the door.

I'm just saying, you know what? I'm because that's when things die. Right. Because people are not innovating, people not passing the ball. You know what I'm saying? What's that one coach name? I think it was Steve Nash or something like that. Or Jason Kidd or something like that.

He played ball and then he ended up being the coach. Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr. You played ball, you did good. Now it's time to coach. You know what I'm saying? Now it's time to coach and now it might be time to own piece of the franchise

or own whatever. But you have to innovate you have to grow, dog. You have to lean towards the youth, dog. You can't be hating, dog, and throwing salt and you know what I'm saying, and making fun of and picking on and people different or people young and it ain't cool. No, maybe you ain't cool.

Maybe you don't got old. Maybe you don't know what you're doing. Time passed you by. Yeah, so can't do that. What did you learn about the music industry, the entertainment industry? It's real tricky, man It's real tricky The people who's supposed to be Teaching, teaching you and helping you

It's a lot of people in the music industry That their only power Or their only Means to success It's keeping other people blind See what I'm saying? So it's like, you know what They try to tell you, you know what, you be an artist

Don't worry about it, let me handle the business Let me handle the hard stuff You just be artists No No, no, no, don't you just be artists. Right. You need to be learning, bro. You need to be seeing how things operate, seeing how stuff work.

Because some people, their power is keeping you blind because they're scared that if you wake up, they might be out of job. You see what I'm saying? Yes. Coming up, when I learned that, my uncle didn't hide nothing from me. We did everything together. Whatever. To my knowledge, you know what I'm saying? He taught me how stuff was operating.

And if he wasn't teaching me, I was asking, like, what is that? that good or whatever. So what I think is going on in the music space why so many rappers make terrible decisions financially or they're so lost or they're stuck on whatever they're stuck on and they're not growing, they're not changing or they're not, you know what I'm saying, better in their self or whatever the case may be. And it's in those crazy spaces because the people who's supposed to be teaching us or giving us the game is running the game on us, right? And they think, you know, since they can't rap, dance, or sang or whatever the case may be, that that's their way how they're going to feed their folks but you can't keeping somebody blind

dog is i don't know it's a lot of that in the music business is a lot of that it's a lot of people who just in the way there's a lot of people who want to make their stuff important make their stuff like they can move some mountains or whatever you know what i'm saying they try to you know what i'm saying keep all the you know what I'm saying keep all the game and try to run it on you it's a lot of that we're going to get you out of out of here on this. DJ academics call you the Jay Z of this generation because he was talking about your business move. Not only, obviously Jay Z started out of a rapper and then we see all the business move that he's made since then. And he says, you are JZ of this generation. You agree?

That's a big statement because to the blind eye, you can look at me and say, well, he don't look like Jay Z. He don't come from what Jay Z come from. He don't talk like Jay Z or he don't got as much, whatever the case may be, right? But like we just talked about, the youth or stuff is innovating, stuff is changing, just because it might not look like. What it looked like? People like Jay, them, don't boy, walked, and ran,

so people like me can fly. You know what I'm saying? So when I was trying to be a rapper or whatever, I was looking at the rappers, and I was looking at the Kodak blacks, and I was thinking about, okay, I'm young, and I come from the South. I'm gonna look at the successful people

who young from the South, the Kodat Blacks, the NBA Young Boys, right? Mm-hmm. Okay, and then once I became a successful, rapper I was like okay how do I become a successful artist and diverse and and do tours and albums and I was looking at those kind of people to drakes you know what I'm saying them kind of people right and then once I got to that point I was like okay now what are some of the people who went from artists and and

tours and got into business right who kind of just took all the influence and they spread their self-right and became a business and I studied the Js and people like that you know what I'm saying Yeah, you see what I'm saying? So I just take the game, the game and I ran with a lot of these guys where they wrote the book on this stuff that I'm doing. A lot of these guys with the blueprint.

A lot of these guys, they walked and ran so people like me can fly. And behind me, 10 years from now, somebody else coming. So, you know what I'm saying? Yep. The older guys just have to lean into that. Don't get offended by that

when somebody say, oh, you're the next, such and such or whatever, you know, because it wouldn't be no motivation. for me to, I wouldn't even believe that this is possible without these kind of guys. So it's always love to people like academics, and that's an honor to be compared to Jay. You know what I mean? I'm moving in the right direction because those are one of the guys that I studied. So, you know what I'm saying?

Everybody, make sure you go get Rod's new album. Don't look down. Rob, appreciate you coming on Club, Shea. Anything you want to promote? Appreciate you having it, man. You got your water? You always handle your business. Just know your business, man.

And if you're out there, balling, if you're sports, or whatever you're doing, if you're the coach, if you need, you know what I'm saying? So kind of, you know what I'm saying? Back in there, you want to holler, you want to talk, man. We're working, so I just appreciate everybody, bro, for me to get to this point. All the fans out there, all the people who come to the shows and by the music, listen to the music.

I couldn't have came in this far, dog, and I promise I'm gonna do the right thing. And you know what it is, man. Let them know when the new album dropping. August 28. August 28th, 2026, man. Don't look down. Don't look down.

The tour of September 12th, first date, Philly, 30. I think, how many cities, dormant? 25 cities, man. 25 cities, North America. Beat up, man, beach scraps. You can't show up. It's still all love. Man, we're gonna rock out.

We're gonna pull up and do our thing. It's all love. You can't make it. You can't afford it. It's all gravy or whatever, man. You know what I'm saying? It's all love. I appreciate everybody out there. You know what I'm saying? Rocking with me, watch me grow, helping me grow. You know what I'm saying? Tudor race continued, you know what I'm saying?

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