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Episode Date: December 10, 2025

Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/SHANNON and use code SHANNON and get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Get harder, longer-lasting erections with Ro Sparks: $15 off first order of medication to get hard at https://ro.co/shayshay  Shannon Sharpe sits down with West Coast legend The Game, a Grammy-nominated, multi-platinum rapper credited with bringing Los Angeles rap back to the mainstream. He begins by opening up about his turbulent childhood—parents battling addiction, witnessing violence in the home, entering foster care after his sister reported abuse, and the emotional wall he built that eventually steered him toward gang life. He details surviving the streets of Compton, going to jail, and later being shot five times, which left him in a coma. The Game then revisits the journey that changed everything—signing with Dr. Dre, working under Dre’s perfectionism, joining G-Unit, and the early chemistry with 50 Cent that helped launch his debut album. He breaks down bonding with 50, their infamous shootout, and even Michael Jackson stepping in to help end the feud. He reflects on rap beefs today, reconciling with artists, and his complicated history with Kanye West, including the Kim Kardashian rumors. The conversation moves through money lessons, the pitfalls of success, buying homes on his block, and the tragedy of losing Nipsey Hussle, whose death he says felt like Tupac’s. Game addresses the backlash after revealing he nearly signed Kendrick Lamar, why he passed Kendrick the torch onstage with Snoop and Dre, and how he felt hearing Kendrick mention him in “Black Boy Fly.” He also weighs in on the best rapper from the West Coast today, his old beef with Suge Knight, and bringing Drake safely to Compton. He recounts recording with Eminem, their later beef, and whether he regrets any bars he’s dropped. He speaks on calling NBA YoungBoy the Tupac of this generation, his views on Lil Wayne comparisons, paying for verses, almost signing to Birdman, and everything he’s learned from the rap business. Game discusses writing hits for other artists, the realities of streaming, and what he believes is the greatest rap album ever. He talks about fighting rumors, exhibitions he’d consider, and his infamous Change of Heart dating-show appearance.  He opens up about fatherhood, co-parenting, disciplining kids, daughters on social media, protecting mental health, betrayal from friends, loyalty, his Kobe tattoo, acting roles, career regrets, and the evolution from The Game in 2005 to today. He closes by promoting his upcoming DJ Drama mixtape and next album, explaining the difference between “Mixtape Game” and “Album Game.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to another episode of Club Shay. I am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriet. of Club Sheche, stopping by for conversation on the drink today with a career spending two decades. He's one of the best rappers on Earth. He's credited with bringing West Coast back to the mainstream. He's a consistent force in delivering classic albums, a Grammy-nominated superstar, a multi-platin

songwriter, global chart-topping artists, a prolific producer, MC, actor, and an entrepreneur, hip-hop icon, Compton OG, West Coast legend. They call him the Coast Guard. Here he is, the game. We do you right. We do you around the intro? Hey, when you was reading it down, I'm like, who is he talking about? You know, sometimes, man, when you're on the inside, looking out, it's hard to, you know, we're just going through it.

We're trying to accomplish things. We're trying to take care of our family, make a name for ourselves, and you just never stop to really, you know, give yourself a pat on the back sometimes. So when you're reading, it's just like, I didn't done some, you know, I didn't done something. Because you're still on the journey. You haven't reached a destination yet. You haven't put the car in park. You hadn't parked the boat at the dock. And so you're still going, and that's what I tell people.

You don't really appreciate what you've done And then when you go back And when you sit down in pause You're like, damn, I did that, I did that I did that I really did some itch Well, congratulations, bro 46, 46 summers, 46 falls Heading into 46 winter

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your first $5 line up aspects. It's good to be right. What have you learned most in your 46 years of being on this, sir? You know about 10 years ago, this question would have been a little bit harder to answer. But today, I've been telling a lot of people this maybe in the last like 30 days. Okay. Porn to people that are pouring to you. That's it. That is the most important thing. We spend so much time trying to please other people. You know what I'm saying? Like impressed strangers and all of that. But the people that are right there giving you to love, we don't, we miss it sometimes. So now I make it every waking day, I make it my, you know, my business to make sure that if my mama called me last night, I'm calling on the first, you know, soon as I wake up.

I'm not putting that off till after the gym. My friends call me, check on me. I'm calling them and checking on them. And so it's just, you know, like that. Like, you got to pour into people that are pouring into you and spend more time doing that. Game, you had a very rough upbringing. had some experiences that I think

you believe probably impacted you later in your life. What was your childhood? What was your childhood like? Sometimes when I think about things that I went through as a child, it ain't no way that I'm even sitting on this couch with you.

I lived a trauma, trauma-filled childhood. My parents, love my mama. Love my mama to death. You know, I love my mama like you love your mom. You can't, your mama can't do no wrong. Right. Hated my father for a long time.

Love the man, hated him. And it's just funny because he passed in 2018. Okay. But the things that he told me, he didn't, he had a lot of money when we were young because he was in the street selling drugs doing what he had to do. But then he got out of that, you know, he ended out of jail with my uncle. And then he phased out of that and he picked up other, you know, other little skill sets and whatnot to bring money in, but it wasn't a lot. and I'm like the middle of like

17 kids right 17? Yeah So your dad had not your mom and dad But my mom got Yeah my mom got four girls and me Okay so you got five but your dad got a couple more on the side My dad got yeah both ways But yeah he didn't have a lot of money man

But he gave me a lot of wisdom And you know when you're young You don't really hear the words of wisdom at all But as I as my kids grow And I you know I grow Things that he told me are starting to really like, you know, just do amazing things for me in my life. And so I talk to my dad, I think, more after his demise than I did when he was here,

which is a tragedy. But, you know, once people perish, we can't get him back. And so all we have is our memories and God. And so I lift him up and praise him as much as I can just to myself, you know. How is that trauma in the past? Does it play out today? I think that I just, as far as, like, fatherhood. Right, because I grew up in a foster home because, you know, some things that my father did in the past.

We were, me and my sister were extracted from our home with my mom and put into foster homes in third grade. And she fought for us, you know, every month we had to go to court. We had to go to counseling and talk to social workers and whatnot. And so I felt abandoned. So I built up this wall, right? I built up a wall so that later on in life, what it does is sometimes I'm closed off. Sometimes it's my way of the highway. Sometimes I don't want to hear what nobody.

else got to say about nothing, and it's because as an eight-year-old, I waited for my mom to rescue me from, you know, the graphs of the, you know, the child care system. And I didn't understand at that time, she would tell me, baby, I'm just working. I'm going to get you. I'm going to get you. And every time I left the courthouse, and I didn't leave in my mom's car, I felt like she abandoned me. So by the time I turned 12, I gave up. I was like, she ain't never, she ain't never going to give me. So this is my life. And so stop being, you know, stop being a pussy. And G up. So then I took to the streets in six, seven grade,

start running around and smoking weed and, you know, just running with different gangs and Crip gangs, blood gangs. And I couldn't figure, that was, you know, this is funny. One of the hardest things for me in my childhood because I come from a family of Crips was to figure out which gang I wanted to join. Because also, this is going to be funny to you, too.

I love Scotty Pippin, man. And so the Bulls, I mean, you know, Jordan Pippin, what they were doing in my childhood was like everything was the bulls and I loved the Lakers too but like the Bulls it was like Jordan right

so I was like ultimately I started wearing you remember the starter jackets yeah for sure everybody on these quarter-sips but they don't know about the real quarter zips we had these quarter-zips

starter jackets man I would wear through the hood every day and I grew up in a Crip neighborhood and they would be like Jason Yon you got to take that off but it was guys that I grew up with telling me what to do with my clothing that

I would like throw over trash cans when we was little. So, you know, it got to a point where I had to kind of drift out the hood or, you know, meet whatever the consequences were for disrespecting, you know, that certain hood. So I went across the tracks and got with my brother and then ultimately chose the bloods and from there it was just, you know, a life of the life in the streets. You mentioned that you were placed in foster care because some unthinkable act that your father perpetrated against your sister. Did you have any idea this was going on? I had no idea. Again, that I was oblivious to it because it happened once, right?

And what happened was, if I got the story right, my sister will correct me when this airs if I'm wrong. But one night my sister did something she never did. She went to get in my parents' bed. So my dad came home high off heroin, and he was a recreational user, meaning he functioned. He wasn't like a drug out of it. Back in the early 80s, they were snored and coke

and they were doing heroin and they go party, but they were, you know, normal for the most part. So he came home high off here, and he thought my sister was my mom. So what he did was pull her closer to him and, you know, kind of like, you know, fell asleep. The next day, my sister went to school, told the teacher that, you know, she was touched inappropriately. And then they came and got us all about us. How was she at the time? She's older than younger than you.

She might have been 11. Okay. Yeah, she older than me, my sister. So when that happened, did your father try to explain what it transpired or they weren't trying to hear that at that point? He was honest about it. And I give him that. He said he just didn't remember. Right.

He said he didn't remember. Could have been a lie. He could have been honest. But I always felt like he was telling the truth on that point. But still, it didn't matter if he was honest or he was, you know, telling a lie about it. I had resentment to him from that day on because we were stripped about, you know, from my mother's care. And I was a mom. Family was ripped apart.

Yeah, ripped apart forever. Before that, we used to have Sunday dinners. We'd go to the beach. We'd go to the lake. We'd go to the lake. We'd go fishing. We had a real family. You know the kind of, you know, the family matters.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we had that. And, yeah, everything changed after that night. Did your mom, did you say your dad was sold drugs? What did your mom do? Was your mom in the game all sold? My mama is, she was a G? Yeah, she a G. My mom grew up in the Hoover, 74 from Hoover.

It's, you know, a hood in the mid-city, Los Angeles, South Central, and she bankrupt. She also worked at, she banged during the day and the night, she was the manager of Taco Bell. She was like, you got to think, my mom had me, she was 20 years old, so, and I have an older sister. Right. And it's four years, three and a half, four years old. Okay. So my mom was already. With a teenager having a key in.

She was 16, man, but she was about her business. So while my dad was selling drugs, my mom worked at the post office at night. She would be making plates, taking them up and making, you know, $20 a plate back in 1980, whatever. Right. Making money there. She had a modeling agency. She would be, you know, doing a... My mom was a hustler.

My mom's still a hustler. She got that, man. She just had an event two weeks ago, man. She just, she's still doing it. But from what I can gather, your mom and dad had kind of like a contentious relationship. Yeah, they did. Even though things seem normal, you got... You mentioned how you went to Disney World and you had, you know,

did Sunday dinners and you did things as a family. Yeah. There was a lot of... There was a lot of contentious. contentiousness in that relationship. Do you remember anything about that? I remember there was a point where neither one of my parents drank or smoke, anything. Okay.

And then from there, it's just somewhere in the early 80s, cocaine and heroin. I mean, I guess heroin was around, but crack came in heavy. Coke was coming in heavy. And again, man, like in our neighborhood in Compton, man, like we, I've never seen. cocaine leaves or you know alcohol distilleries or you know we ain't we're not creating this stuff in the hood so somebody had to drop it there so I think whatever it was going on with the government at that time man it was to strip the black fathers out of these homes man and you know up into this current day um we are the most incarcerated we are the most uh you know race on race

crime and it's still you know still like that today man so yeah a lot of contentiousness um my parents were really violent after, you know, drugs infiltrated our house. I can remember my mom shooting at my dad with a shotgun and blowing half the door off and another incident. In the house or in the car? No, she pulled up on my dad, because he was cheating or something, pulled up and she tried to, she brought a shotgun. She tried to shoot him out the car door, but she blew the door off instead.

And then I can remember one time she ran my dad over, pent him between our iron gate at the house and our 87 regal. And, yeah, my dad was, he had... He stayed? I don't know what's up with them, man. At some point in time, I mean, you know, you dislodged a gun at me. I'm probably going to have to... I'm not going to really look at that as love, though, game.

I don't know how you see it. I don't know, man. I think that's not the type of love that I... Yeah, I don't want that to display. And then my mom said my dad took her to the cemetery where most of our family is born, dug a hole through her in it, and shot into the hole. So I don't know that.

I had a really, really... crazy childhood, man. And the fact that that was, all of that seemed normal at that time to me says something about the psychology of, you know, the black child growing up in Los Angeles in the early 80s. You mentioned after this incident with your, alleged incident with your father and your sister, foster care came in and removed you. And you, like, had to go to, you said, you had to go to therapy and you had to meet with these counselors and you're going to court every single day. And every single day that you went to court and your mom, you didn't get an opportunity to leave with your mom, it put up a wall. You put up a wall. You just said, you know what?

because they really wanted me, they get me. They don't love me. And so did you turn to the gang to fill that void that family had left because you no longer had that because you remember the trip to Disneyland? You remember those Sunday dinners. You remember all the things that you did as a family. Now you don't have a family. You want a family because you know what family entails. What I think happened with me was you end up going to the park to play ball with your homies.

Okay. You end up going, you know, playing throw up, tackle, football. Then you end up going to the target or whatever and, you know, stealing or J.C. pennies, Macy, stealing some clothes. And I think that you become a gang in, you know, within committing these, you know, these acts. And then after years and years, I mean, wherever one or two of the homies drift, you kind of follow suit a little bit, you know. And it could be for a lot of reasons. It can be for camaraderie. It could be because, you know, I didn't, I had a father figure, but didn't. so I had to become, you know, my own protector, a lot of different things. If a Lenovo gaming computer is on your holiday list, don't shop around.

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or wherever you get your podcast. Gang's in L.A., man. I try to explain the ends and outs to people all the time, but there really is no explanation except for just following the footsteps of people who did it before you or the people you grew up with. You mentioned that eventually you did end up going back with your mom, And what happened that you weren't not allowed to stay very long with her? When I got back home to my mom, I was no longer the eight-year-old left.

You know, I had tattoos. I was gang banging. And I was from a gang that she wasn't in approval of. Yeah, because the opposite side, she was a- She never told me I couldn't be a crypt. That's funny. She never had that conversation. But being in the blood was something that she was real opposed to.

She didn't really like that. And, you know, to this day, I don't think I ever asked. if I was in Crip, would it be any different? Right. But I definitely know she wasn't with the hiding red rags in my backpack, you know, sneaking. But I came back home. I just wasn't the same person. We didn't have the relationship that we had when I was younger.

She had grown. Right. Because my sister, she got my sister back before me. So they had rebonded. And I think I was just in the streets coming in after. Were you upset at that? Because you're like, you got her. If you can get her back, why couldn't you get me?

I was removed from that. Remember I told you a few years, you know, before that, I had already built a wall, and I really didn't feel like I had a family anyway. So I was coming back to my mom's house, but really just for room and board. Yeah, okay. You were just coming back to the building. There weren't no family there. Right.

Man. What advice would you give kids today? Because I'm sure you're an activist now. Kids that come up in a very similar situation. It's hard for me to imagine now that there aren't kids that's in this area or Detroit, Chicago, or New York, or wherever else. that that's not coming up in a very similar situation. What advice would you give them?

I would say the number one thing I would tell them is, is there is a strong possibility that if you drift off into the streets that you will end up dead, plain, bling, period. So at that point, you have to question, do you want to live or die? Which is a rhetorical question in Los Angeles, from grandfather to grandmother to child.

It's like, do you care if you live and die? And a lot of these guys, because of what they've seen portrayed in the hood, you know, their entire lives. And like I said, it is, it's hereditary, man. This is passed on, you know, from generation to generation from, you know, the late 70s all the way until now. And me and you, we're a little older. Yeah.

So we can kind of remember the late 70s, early 80s, and all that. But that was 50 years ago, like 40, almost 50 years ago, which is crazy when you say it, right? But I don't think much has changed. If anything, it's a lot worse. So I would just tell anybody that would listen, like you know. there's a possibility that you're going to die. Is it easier if you don't have something to live for, you don't care about dying?

Very, very, that's, yeah, that's accurate, yeah. And at times, even the things that people would necessarily have to live for, they don't think that that's enough to live for. Right, right? Having a grandmother that loves you, having a mom that loves you, having parents or a parent that's going,

you know, working for you, putting clothes on your back and, you know, providing the roof over your head. Like, we still, as adolescents, don't, See it like that for some reason. You said, I think, earlier, that you were able to reconcile, reconciled with your mom. But to your dad, that never came. Why wasn't that reconciliation possible? I think it had a lot to do with me.

My sister, a long time ago, forgave him for whatever transpired that, you know, that wicked night that kind of stripped the family, I mean, ripped the family and half. Me personally, man, I held the grudge for her, though. I felt like I'm not, I'm not tired of it. being angry at him. I just loved the way that my life was before that night. And you blamed him for

ripping the family apart. I'm talking about we had it, man. The first day the Nintendo dropped. The first day of Nintendo my pops came in the house with the Nintendo. And when I say the Nintendo, I mean the one with the orange duck on gun. No, not the way. Everybody had an orange came in with the orange one. Like

we had, I just had my memories were so fairy tale before that night, man, that I was in resentment almost until the day died. But luckily for me, which rarely happens, I got a chance to be more of a son and him more of a father right before he passed. I'm talking about within the last 45 days. And when I woke up, and I woke up one day to like 30, 40 text messages. And the first one I saw was from my older brother. He was just like, Dad is dead. And I just, I've never been told that my dad was dead before. So you can imagine. what that felt like. It was weird. And I tell people all the time, it doesn't matter what relationship you have with your parents, right? It doesn't matter if it's estranged or whatever. We're all balls of energy, right? All of us. Everybody in this room, me and you were balls of energy. When part of your creators, right, one half of your creators dies or perishes or goes to somewhere that is not in this earthly realm, you feel it. You feel it. You can never talk to your father in your life. If he died, you would feel a little off that day. And that's just how the universe works. So for me, when he died, man, it hit me hard for some reason.

It hit me hard. Because like I said, he was there. He was just in and out. He gave me wisdom, but I couldn't appreciate it when I was that young. I didn't really even give a shit about it. But now I hear his voice 10 times a day. Like, nah, it's supposed to be like that. Which in Toa's helped me be a remarkable father.

Because my kids, it's like at this point in life. You get to 46, you know, we are on the other half. Yes. My children are everything, and it's all about them and about nothing else. And like I told you, you know, we first started. Like, I pour into them so much. I'm involved. I want to know what's going on.

I want to be transparent. I want to know, you know, the first time my daughter feels like she likes her, boy, it's cool. Tell me, let's sit down. Let's talk about it. Right. I want to know what year my sons feel like they're going to have a kid, so I'll know when I'm going to be grandpa. Right. Let me know.

Right. And I also told them, I said, you know, either one of y'all get somebody pregnant, you know you financially cut off. You have to be a man. Right. You got to figure it out like I did. And they're like, yeah, we think we're going to chill. You know what I'm saying?

So, yeah, man, I think that indirectly, he, his fatherhood was what it was, but it ultimately made me a better person. So you wanted to do, you wanted to be everything as a father that he wasn't. Exactly. And this is why you are how you are with your kids because of how he wasn't with you. Exactly. And I was his favorite. And I got, again, I got 17 siblings.

So imagine how everyone else feels. Wow. Your father, normally you said your dad didn't do drugs at first. And like recreational, okay, you go party or something like that. But there was a tragic incident in which your brother was killed. And you felt that that might have led him down that path. Yeah. So when I was 13, my brother who was 16, 16,

He ended up getting killed. Terrible blow to my family. That was, you know, my other brother was going to be like, man, what's up, man? But that was my brother. Right. You know, I loved him to death. He made sure that I had everything that I needed. For everything that my father lacked, he carried right to the doorstep.

And we got different moms, you know? So he was there. So that was not my first blow as far as death is concerned. somebody you care about because I've lost friends I lost my first friend when I was in kindergarten to a drive-by walking home um but yeah my brother died man again I was hated the world nothing and remember when you asked me what sent me to to into the streets I think that did because after that I just didn't care if I lived or died again I was you know I was 13 years old and I had no kids and I felt like you know like this was it did your brother

bang he did yeah so that didn't that didn't because like you know now you're I mean, you probably knew then there's a chance that me being in this part of life, doing this in life, there's a good chance that one day I'm, this fate could befell me. Yeah, so again, here's a psychology from us as adolescents and gang members in L.A. or across the globe, right? Just for me sitting here talking to you, I can tell you straight that I didn't care if I died. I was walking outside to die every day. And I didn't care. But my thing was I have to, I got to have the upper hand. So I always had my head on a swivel.

I mean, obviously, I'm sitting before you. But I always played defense when I walked outside. But I woke up and walked outside with my rag in my pocket every day knowing that I was going to bang. And in Compton, or in L.A. period. It's a different gang every five blocks. Yeah, every five blocks, the gang changes. So imagine walking two miles to school. How many times you get asked where you're from?

And how many times you've got to make the decision to lie or stand on it and face whatever is in front of you? Damn. I mean, you were like, bro, hey, I ain't, bro, I ain't about this, man. I'm just trying to go to school, get me a little education, cook. That's it, man. But you know what? When I was young, I was fearless as well. Right.

You know, I was fearless as well, man. I would either tell them where I was from or run sometimes. I'm too little. They're too big. Right. The crate. I told my son's this story not too long ago. I was maybe nine or 10 years old getting banged on by adults.

I mean, I mean, kids that were like 19. 18, 20, asking a 10-year-old, like, where you're from? And you would have to answer that. Right. Or it would be consequence. Right. So it would either, you knew them, and you would be like, you know, F you Calvin, and then run, or you would just get beat up as a kid. Right.

And that, that is crazy, man, when I think back about, you know, how I came up. Let me ask you a question, man, real talk. When do we start throwing these? I've been fighting all my life. But it used to be, you took an ass cutting, dude got the best. That was the end of it. It wasn't a situation where you got beaten and you went and had to go home and get that five. Right.

Again, man, I've never seen... Internet changed that, huh? I've never seen anybody of... Anybody from the hood, whether it be Hispanic or African American or any other race that is in the hood. I've never seen them put a gun together. Yeah. So I'm saying, where are the weapons coming from? You know what I feel like at some point, man, it was a, you know, a big, you know, some big crates and they dropped them off and the crate, you know,

The wood fell and you could have anything you want because we're not manufacturing these things, man, but for some reason everybody got them. I think in the 80s and I think it was employed by the, you know, the American government at that time to, you know, infiltrate the black neighborhoods and it's still happening today. And I don't, I think we are very, very far from a place of, well, we can just rectify the situation, to be honest, man. And so, but we can't give up either. Like I said, I'm with my sons. You know, I know you got, you know, family and young cats in your family who you're talking to. And like, this is, you know, it should be like this. You know, nephew or son or whatever.

But, yeah, everybody got to do their part. Is gang culture celebrated too much? Do we glorify it? Do we glamorize it too much? I think we do. And I think I'm part of the problem. But my story, my history, my life, my childhood, my upbringing, that's. But you live that life, though.

Yeah. That ain't, I mean, that ain't no, you ain't no studio games. You actually walk these streets as that. Right. And a lot of people now pretend like they walk the street as that, and they're not. But they're celebrating something and they're glamorizing. And it's just like an athlete. You see the LeBron James and you see somebody or your favorite rapper talking about this one.

That's what I want to be. Yeah. I want to be just like that. Yeah, it happened the same for me. I think that these days it's just a little, not even a little, a lot more non-awful. authenticated. You know, it's just it's social media, man. You could be wherever you want to, you could be whatever you want to be

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I made a mistake. I was playing mad, and it was longer in three days, by the way, man. I was down for almost a month. You were in a coma for almost a month? Almost, yeah. Damn. Yeah, my mom. didn't come see me either but um she said she wasn't she was like you ever you know if you

if something ever happened to you you know what this life entails yeah and if it happens to you I'm not gonna I'm not coming yeah I told you so what happened was I was playing Madden um late night and we had rules in the you know in the dope house that after midnight all sales ceased because you know you know bullshit can happen so um I heard a knock on the door I must looked at the time and it was like maybe like 12 30 and I was like not Nobody else was, you know, in a dope spot, but me. And so if you're in a dope, if you ever sold dope, when there's a lot of guys or a lot of homies in the adult spot,

every knock on the door is the other person's turn until it gets back to you. Right. And that's how, you know, everybody makes, you know, even money. So on this particular night, my brother was with his kids' mom and my other homie, Vail, who's no longer with us, was somewhere else gone. And then I think my boy, Ed was gone. Everybody was gone. So you had to have, you had to house by.

I cleaned up that night. Yeah. I cleaned up that night. And so I was like, what is there's one more knock on the door? I looked at the peephole. It was this little scrawny kid that always come, you know. So you knew him. So that's why you let your guard.

Yeah, I knew him from coming before, but I didn't know him like that. As soon as I opened the door for him, two more dudes came behind him, and then I was in for, you know, a fight for my life. Just like that. That, I swear, it felt like it happened in 20 seconds, man. So I ran immediately to the table, which was probably right here. to get my gun off the table, but he got, he kind of got to it before me. So we ended up rolling on the ground for what felt like a lifetime.

His homies couldn't shoot me because we were... Rolling because he might have been running the risk of shooting him. For some reason, I was kind of getting the gun, you know, like getting the edge on him. So he just fired it. And it went through my chest and through my stomach and through my leg and through my arm. Do you think your life was over? Yep. I thought my life was over.

I could remember them leaving after that I crawled down the hallway to the bathroom that was on the right I turned on the light I lifted myself up by my elbows and I pulled my tank top back and blood just splattered on the mirror on the mirror

I fell down, I had a next tail chirp so my car and I went on myself and the next thing I woke up my aunt was right there and she was like you know you've been in here for a minute and that was damn yeah you weren't worried about the cops coming to the house Man, when you get shot, man.

You go. Nobody comes to the house except Jesus, man. That's it. Hey, they come, they take all this issue, but I hear you save my life on this one. Yeah, and I think whoever was the investigating officers, because they came to see me once I woke up from the coma, they didn't bring up the drugs at all, man. So I kind of think that they probably saw that I was young and probably was just, you know, let it go.

When you wake up, you're like, you've been in there almost 30 days and I, now, what's going through your head. You're like, I'm done with this issue. I'm in Dodged your bullet. God, thank you so much. I appreciate you. I'm out. Let me tell you what happened, man. You know we always had these come to God. If you get me out of this one, I will never do it again. I went to my grandmother's house. She prayed over me every day in the bed while I was, because I had to learn how to, I was

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I went back to my grandma's house, I think another two weeks past. I was hanging one of my boys. He was in the streets like me. His older brother is Cam, the rapper, Kamam, Muhammad. So he follows, you know, Minister Farrakhan. And he's part of FOI. So Minister Farrakhan was coming to the convention center. So was Russell Simmons, Snoop Dog, for a hip-hop summit.

I hadn't really rap that much yet. At that point, I was just like a fan of rap. But I was like, man, I'm going to be a Muslim, right? Because then, you know, they dress up nice. I'm going to my bow tie. I'm going to be a bow tie, man, change my life. And I'm going to just be out here with the bean. pies like in the final call like brother right you know went to see minister faircon speak met

uh minister tony mahomet and he was like what brings you and i was like man i just got shot not long not long ago i want to change my life he was like you know what are you into what do i was like i hadn't i hadn't wrapped at all but he was like you know they having uh you know after this you know you go next door man and they have a uh you know uh hip-hop convention okay so man um i go next door after I see Minister Farrakhan. Now, after hearing Minister Farrakhan speak, I was mind alone, right? But it was like, I was,

Minister Farrakhan's speech made me angry. For some reason, I wanted to go out and just hurt white people. I was like, ah, I don't know. I don't know. Like, I want to be a Muslim, but like, and I'm not saying that that's what he preached. Right.

I'm just saying that's how it made me feel individually. I wanted to go out and get revenge. Right. For Harriet Tubman, Frederick Douglass, whoever. Everybody that was wrong Because he's powerful, man And so he spoke to me

And I was like, man Well, that ain't it I can't just go out And like, you know Start a war with white people Because how I feel Right So I went over

Russell Simmons was talking about upcoming artists And I saw Snoop Dog Walking out And I was like, yo Snoop What's up man? My name, Game I'm from Compton

I rap He was like That's all right nephew Stay up And then he did And I was like Damn He ain't even gonna

You know Oh you want to spit a few bars for it. I wanted to try, but he was like, yeah, cause, do your thing. So he left, but there was a freestyle battle. And so at that time, it wasn't on internet. Oh, yeah, actually it was internet, but the only two websites was like dictionary.com and Google. You couldn't surf the web. Right. So I was, I knew all, like, Jay-Z and Biggie rhymes and Nas by heart, because I was, like, East Coast influence. I listened to West Coast stuff, of course, because I'm from here, but I was, like, intrigued by like the wordplay from like you know j and naz and k rs one and all them so i spit so i spit

a j z verse in this freestyle and no one didn't know you know what i'm saying right they didn't know it and so they was like yo you dope and it was a cat in there named jt the bigger figure and uh his boy fat rat and they was like i want to fly you to the bay um and i was like find me to the bay like you know i know in my head this ain't my rap this is jz rap right but i'm like yo they want to fly me to the bay he's like in the morning i'm gonna call you and um i'm gonna fly you out to the bay um he called i went to the airport i only been on the plane um twice at that point um once when my grandma are going to Vegas with my cousin's there circuit circuits and you don't know about the old circuit circuit circuit it was crazy back in the day for kids man it's like home alone for black

people but um so yeah it's my second time on the plane i'm scared of shit but i land um i get to meet e 40 i get to meet some uh you know the outlaw yeah i call me i got to me rapping Forte. I'm at Two Short, and my engineer that was recording my demo is now the owner of Empire, Ghazi. Wow. So it's like, I recorded my demo. I brought it back. I was just passing it out. I would go to like Rite Aid, get some CDs. I bought a CD burner from fries, and I would just, every time I sold some weed, I went, oh, by the way, I forgot to tell you, I went back selling weed. See, I, but I thought you said God, would you. Hey, man, I was, you know, you don't made a promise to God it. It left in two weeks, you know. Hey, man, yeah. I was trying to figure.

it out, man. But, um, so yeah, I was, uh, I went back selling weed. And with every person that bought, you know, like, you know, a 20 sack or something like that, I would just give with my CD. Somehow I got to Dr. Dre's sister. Um, and, um, my homie D. Mac and Kay Dog was like, yo, Dre want to meet you. And then we end up going to, um, to come into the valley. And I had never been to the valley in my life. Right. Ever. And I went to the valley and I was like, damn, this the valley? It's only 20 minutes away. Right. So that's how small L.A. is, right? So I to the Valley, walked in, Dre was like, you game?

I was like, yeah, he was like, welcome to Aftermath. And I was like, what? All I really got is this demo that I recorded. Right. And, like, kind of got myself through on the, you know, on the go. And it's one JZ verse that I spit at this freestyle, but here I am signed the Aftermath. So I went home.

I told my mom, I was like, I'm signing a Dr. Dre. And she was like, what do you do? And I was like, all right, you know? had she ever heard you ever heard you rap before she kicked me out the house for saying that i wanted to rap when it was just an idea kicked me straight out locked the doors and i never went back so i was like yeah my own the rap worked out and she didn't i don't think she believed me right um but i was like um i'm gonna make this happen man and at that time my oldest son's mom was pregnant with him and i was like i promised her mother that before this kid was born that i would have a million

dollars and I made it happen. Wow. And I thought a million dollars was, you know, not to knock nobody, but a million dollars is not really as much as you think it is when you get to taking care of people and handling the business. Well, what happened at? Because what's so I could say I'll get his cut? Right. Well, you know, it was a subsidiary company, right? The people that signed me to aftermath. They get a cut. They took, they 30%. The lawyer's going to take eight percent. Management takes they percent. And then I saw I was probably left with about four or five hundred thousand. I did some, you know, real young black shit. I went to Jacob, bought me a watch because, you know, that's what you ate. The time zone. The five times on. Right. Yeah,

you know. I bought me a chain, so I was down about a 300,000. I bought my girl, um, um, um, a little Ben's truck. Yeah. I put them out here in the valley. And then I did some stuff with my mom. And then before you knew it, man, I was like, I didn't have nothing. Damn. Yeah. When you say your mom, you told your mom that you wanted the rap. She said, nah, you can't do that here. No, she said, get out. Get out. Yeah. Where do you go. I just went to the streets. I ended up meeting this girl, and I never really talked about this before. I met a girl named Rachel on Crenshaw, because we used to go to Crenshaw, like the movies. We used to go to Crenshaw, kick it. You meet a girl, you know, you roll the window down,

you holler at it. You know, you lean over the window. Yeah, yeah. You know, spit your game. And so I met a girl named Rachel. She was in college. We got this thing in our hood. We call, you know, the girls from two-parent homes. Okay. Two Peezes. So it's like, you know, me and the homies. She had two peasies. Yeah, she had two peasies. Oh, that's a She's going to college. She's from a two-parent home. So I end up getting into her apartment with her and kind of moving in slowly. And I end up being an apartment that I end up getting shot in because her parents made her move out once I infiltrated the spot.

And I went in there and damn there ruined this girl's life, man. But yeah, her name, Rachel. I've never seen her again after that. You only know if she's still alive or anything, huh? Hopefully she's alive, Shannon. You ought to reach out. You got that kind of, I mean, just have a Pia. I say, look, I know, hey, I just wanted to say thank you for what you did

because when I didn't have anywhere to go, you open up your home, you open up your door to me and I really want to appreciate it. Yeah, she probably saved my life. Yeah. I don't lie, man. She gave me a shot. Right. You like basketball and you tell the story about, like, bro, I go hoop.

I'm trying to how you hoop with iron on you. So that was my thing, man. Like I said, I told you when I leave the house, I play on defense. I always thought that every time I left the house, that was the day I was going die and for good reason because I have you know dead siblings right I also have witnessed so many of my friends die right you know I remember I was my auntie betty who I love dearly um when I died when my friend got killed on the way home uh in kindergarten she I could it took her maybe a week to explain to me where what happened right I was like where I'm not going to

my number one question her was like I so I'm not going to see him again and and And she was just like, no, baby, he's with Jesus. And I just couldn't understand that for the life of me, how somebody gets erased off the earth and you just never see him again. Which, you know, in the interim, really is some tough psychological warfare to put on a five-year-old man. Yeah. But, yeah. You know, speeding back into the future, man, I would always play basketball with my gun on with a hoster.

I wouldn't got a hoster from Big Five. Right. So I made like the real holster so I can like, So it wouldn't fall off when I dunked or anything, but I had to keep it on because I played basketball at some of the worst basketball courts in L.A. But then you can't get into the argument because, you know, you ain't the only one that got that stick on them. Yeah, we're going to have to see. But I know I got mine. Hopefully you got yours.

So I ain't never had to really pull it out on a basketball court, but I always had it on me. Right. So the game, how did you come up with the name, the game? Who gave you that name? I got that from my grandmother when I was younger because I remember I told you I had the first. I was the first person on the block with the Nintendo. And it's funny because when I got that Nintendo, all my homies wanted to come over and have a sleep.

They couldn't wait until Friday, man. So we would have our, like, I had a heat man sleeping back. My homies would have the Nintendo joints, and we'd be up all night, man, playing track and field, Duck Hunt, Mario Brothers. And, yeah, so my grandmother from Texas originally, she would just be like, boy, that boy, he game for anything. No game, this, game, that.

And so it was just... It was just baby game. then I got bigger, little game than just game. And so when I had to choose a rap name, I went through, I had a notebook with about 10 names, man. And the one that stuck out was Mike Rockwell. And this is going to be funny to you. So, yeah, I called myself Mike Rockwell because I thought I'd rock the Mike well.

Right. So I thought that was, I thought. Because you do know there's a guy named Rockwell, Barry Gordy's son. I always feel like somebody's watching me Yeah His name was Rockwell Oh dang yeah I thought I came up with something

That was gonna change the game But yeah My sister was like That's stupid That's just stupid And I was like What's wrong with Mike Rockwell She said it's stupid

She said Why don't you just use your regular name And just put like Mr or the And I was like Mr. game sound like a porn star And she was like What about like a doctor game

I was like It's Dr. Drey man She was just like Use the And I was like the game And then it stuck, man So yeah, my sister Sharani helped me out But so

You meet Dr. Dre You get signed the aftermath You get a million dollars You go through that In a little of no time No time My boy BD helped me out though He gave me a range rover

He was going to get a range rover He told me if I came with him He would give me a range rover He was like man we can get two And so we went down there BD when he was playing with Charlotte Okay Baron David

Yeah, I grew up with Baron Davis, Gilwood Arenas, Tyson Chandler, like these, all my homies went to the NBA, you know, except me. But, yeah, man. You chose a different life. Yeah, BD. took me, not took me, we went together to the Range Rover dealership. We left with two range rovers, and he gave me 100,000, man. Damn. Because he was proud of me, you know, because BD grew up in, you know, in 7-9, I think

7-9 Swans, which is a blood neighborhood, and he went to, no, I went to Fremont for a little bit, which is the high school in Barron Davis neighborhood where he grew up but of course he got he went to crossroads right because he was

in Santa Monica yeah because he was excellent at basketball but I think it was I never even asked him why he did it I think but I for real think that it was just because

he was proud of me wow I read that Dr. Dre is a professionalist in the studio and that if that thing ain't on point it ain't you ain't getting down

ain't nobody gonna hear it no it's not gonna leave those walls Is that true? It's true, man. Dre will have you in the studio for two days saying it the right way. He don't like the way you said it. He'd be like, nah, you got to say it. And I'd be like, it.

And he'd be like, nah, man, it. And I'd be like, I'm a smoke it. And he'll be like, nah, that's not it. And we'll just stay going back and forth, back and forth. I had patience, you know? Of course, he's a doctor. You know, he's supposed to have patience. Right.

But yeah, man, we would just go back and forth, back and forth until I got it. And then at the end, he would love the one that I said in the beginning. He'd go back and pull it and be like, you know what, this one going to work. You're like, man, we don't spend a day. We don't spend five hours, ten hours, a day and a half. And you've took the first one? Anybody that worked with Dr. Dre will tell you the same thing, man. What's the number one thing that you learned from Dre?

The number one thing I learned from Dre was patience. I think patience in the game, man. So I've never really rushed through anything, which is, you know, at the end of the day. which is probably why I've had longevity in my career while I'm still here and my fans are still intact and I'm able to put out projects you know and I'm never lazy I put out I put out full projects of music that sound collectively great you know and I got that from Dre um beat Dre give you beats beat selection man yeah man anything that Dre puts his hands on

He got a plethora of producers and whatnot, but there's two people in this game, and I've never worked with Quincy Jones before, but I have worked with, or three people. I have worked with Farrell, DJ Quick, and Dr. Dre, are kind of Swiss Beets. Yeah. And Timberlin. I guess we got a lot of talented guys, but these guys are really, really amazing producers, but Dr. Dre and DJ Quick are mad scientists. And I think Quick is a little bit more of a mad scientist than Dre. wow yeah how did you how did you become a part of gene unit um they didn't because you weren't you you was on you was your own thing yeah doing your thing and then i think 50 was with with dray

brought brought to dray yeah and then how did you how did you and 50 and that all come y'all became jimmy i vene didn't know really know what to do with me um i had a buzz in the streets but he and he so But ultimately, he felt like if he put me in G on it, then they would have Young Buck from the South, Yale, Banks, and 50 from New York, and then me from the West, so we would have America sold up as far as the members. He would call us the Black Beatles all the time.

To this day, I see Jimmy Ivan. He'd say, you fucked up the Black Beatles. Every time, man, I see them. But, yeah, man, that's how I got in there. I think that they just, it was Jimmy's genius idea to just throw me in and make sure that the group was good on all sides. Let me ask you a question Had you not joined G-Unit

Would the game been able to go solo Had he not been Because it seemed like it was a part You had to become a part of this I think that I think that I was signed to Dr. Dre regardless I think because of who I am

As a person and my determination It would be great at things I do And once I set my mind To something I'm going to achieve it I think I'd have been fine But I do appreciate my short

little G unit you know stint but I think I'd have been great regardless how did you in 50 mesh so well in the beginning it's one of those things where you put two people together

and they're just talented man it's like I don't know man it's kind of like L and you I mean you know like I remember I watched and I would just be like man these dudes you know got chemistry

yeah and it was just it was like far of and stern Yeah. Same thing, man. Like, you get, you put two people together, and we see it all the time. We see, you know, Kobe and Shaq. Yeah. We see, you know, like, magic and Kareem. Like, it's just, sometimes when you put two very talented,

multi-faceted people together, you're going to get greatness. Right. Did you guys ever talk? Because, I mean, some people would think, well, they bonded over both getting shot, both almost losing their lives to violence. Did you guys ever talk about that? You know what, man, 50 don't really talk about much, but money.

Hey, he talk about money, man. He get it. If it ain't about money, he ain't going to... He ain't about it. He ain't about it, man. He can definitely tell you how to get some money, man. It's going so well. Gene Unit is doing...

I mean, y'all come out, boom, boom. How did something start so well and so bad? One day I went to, I think, Hot 97, talked to phone flash. or something and uh they asked me they were like 50 got beef with jada kiss and fat joe and i was like whoa i ain't i ain't signed up to beef with guys that i idolized i had looked up to the locks and kissed they were rapping before me i used them as you know guides to like get me to where i was so yeah so i you know i came up on on listening jada kiss and fat joe

digging in the crates and uh the digging in the crates crew and then naz man that I was like my top three rapids ever. And like I said, 50 don't talk about nothing but money. So nobody never told me that the group was beefing. Biffing, beefing with Nas and Fat Joe and Jadikis, so I wasn't privy to it. So I was like, yeah, that I don't really got nothing to do with me. And to be perfectly honest, me and 50, we were in the group, but I wasn't in it for that long. And we weren't friends.

Right. They just threw me in the group, and I appreciated the alley-U. But we want homies. So a lot of people get it misconstrued. They think that, like, we were best friends or something. And I betrayed this friendship or something like that. But what I did was stay loyal to, you know, the people that, like, I listen to coming up. Like, I just can't beef with nods because you beef with, I don't have a problem with

nod. And I don't, and I didn't even know you had a problem with Nas till today. So, you know, on the fly, I just said what I said. I was like, I can't, I'm not beefing with, with, with, with Naz and then. And they got back, then they felt you were being disloyal. Right, because 50 felt like he gave me. me a shot, which ultimately, you know, being a part of G-Unit did help escalate, you know, my career in the early stages, but I would have got there regardless, I feel like, you know.

Right. Were you making good money at G-Unit? Yeah, we just making money, but 50 was making more than everybody. Well, damn. Yeah. What's the issue with 50-20? So you feel all y'all should have been on level playing field. If it's a million dollars, you get $2.50, buck get $250.

Yeah. Nah, man, I think that I think it was just one of those things where he made more money and he should have made more money. I was just saying, speaking for myself, saying that we was, you know, getting scraps. What scraps? $150,000 in the show, ain't no scraps, game?

Nah, man, it wasn't $150,000. Okay, $100,000? Probably about $75,000. How many shows y'all are you doing a show a week? Two shows a week? Yeah, man. And I wasn't there for them all. Again, so I felt like, I always felt like I was a solo. artist, man. And so I was a little

honorary to the whole situation anyway. I didn't like being I didn't want to be in new addition. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, so you Bobby Brown, you broke off. Man, I'm Johnny Gill Rap Trans. Bobby broke out because they kicked about the group. He ain't want to lead. That's what I'm knew. Well, me, it was different, man. I always felt like I was a solo artist. I never

felt like I was, you know, part of a group. Damn. Did the beef get so bad that you, do you in 50 getting into a shootout? Uh, 50 wasn't there. But um, we got into a shootout with like his armed security in New York, and they were, like, coming out the back door, I think 50 was getting the car or something, and then the security came around the front and then, you know.

What happened to happen? Having a little, yeah, we had a little back and forth with fire ar. How are you going to, hold on, look, I understand y'all was best friend, but come on, game, man, 24 years old. No, game, you used that when you was 14. You can't use that night 24 now. You grown, grown that man. You got a kid and everything.

Yeah, I was in it, man, but like I was telling you before, it takes you a lot of time to undo things that are second nature, man, like, you know, being just being from the streets. It takes a lot of time. But y'all was doing a press conference. Yeah, they paid me to do that. I know. Yeah.

How you get paid and then you go and do you start the bucket? The money didn't change how I felt when I landed back in California, man. So I know, man, I got this little, I got this early, this early entry bipolar shit going Sometimes, but I think, I tell people all the time, I think that in some form of nature, that we're all kind of bipolar, right? Because sometimes we feel one way and then we feel another way. And so I think that damn near everybody's bipolar. You don't feel the same all the time.

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available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And well, when you look at the mirror, you do not see perfection. But we all got something to say about somebody. Like, we don't get home. We don't have our own separate issues. Yeah, exactly. Is it true that Michael Jackson tried to end the beef with you in the 50? Yeah, man, that was a weird story that don't even sound like it's true, man.

So how, I mean, so how does Mike call you? Mike call me, and, uh, um, Jimmy Hitchman, who was my manager at the time, um, free Jimmy too, man, since we're free and puff. My friend, my friend, huh? But, um, yeah, he called me in my room. I think we had said, um, uh, Vancouver. Right. He's in Canada. He said, man, Michael Jackson on the phone.

He said it so nonchalantly. I was like, huh? What? Yeah, hello, Michael Jackson. He said, Michael Jackson on the phone. Uh, pick up your phone. I picked up the phone ring, and they put Mike through, and I picked the phone that wasn't Mike. It was some British dude, and he was like, yeah, Mike, it'll be here in 20, 25 minutes.

And I was thinking to myself, why he just ain't calling 20, 25 minutes? Y'all expect me to steal the phone for 25 minutes. So I put speakerphone, and I left it on, and I went, you know, anybody that know me knows that I play video games all day. So I'm in the hotel playing video game, and I left it, and it's got like, you know, the Michael, wait for Michael Jackson music. It wasn't like beat it or nothing. It's just like regular album. But, yeah, man, he came in, and he was like, hey.

And I was like, that ain't the hey, I know. You know what I'm saying? That him-ass boys. Yeah, he didn't have that, that like, hey, it's Michael. He didn't sound like that. He sounded like a regular dude. Right. But you can tell it was Michael Jackson.

Right. So I was like, hey, what's up? And he was like, he's like, you know what I want to tell you? And I was like, what? And he was like, that how we do. That how we do. magic. It's magical. It's magical. And I was like, yeah, it's a really good song. He was like, no, it's magical. He was like, I was riding in the car the other day, and I told my driver, you put on

that 15 game song, that's how we do. It's so magical. And he said it's magical about 30 times. I was like, okay, it's magical. But then he said, and then you know what you guys did? You followed it up. You came with that, how we do. And now it's a whole magic show. You guys are so magical together. He was like, I don't understand why you guys are at odds or beefing. He was like, I got an idea. We should fix the beef on my album.

And that's when he lost me. And I was like, everything after that was like, why are we going to put it on your album? Why not put it on my? I don't know. It's Michael Jackson, number one. But I was just like... You didn't think he was being truthful? You didn't? No, I just was like, I hated 50 so much

at that time. I just was like, Mike threw me off with that. And I was just like, yeah, lost me in the conversation, so I ended up hanging up. You hung up on Mike? I did. Come on, game. You can't hang up on Mike. That's the greatest artist ever.

Yeah, I know, man. If I get, again, man, 24. You get into a beef with y'all, with y'all? Yeah, I took that one on with 50 early on because I knew about that one. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Right. And I felt odd about that because I was cool with Irv Gotti, but I was on Aftermath, and

And when Get Richard Dye Try and drop, 50 was going straight at Jai, I hadn't had an album out yet. So I kind of like had to, I kind of piggybacked it. I piggybacked off that one. And I didn't have any, but again, I didn't have no business in that beef. I wasn't even in G union yet. Right. I just went in. But I thought like, you know, aftermath, like I got to show up.

And so I jumped off the, I jumped off the ledge with that one. You mentioned Kanye. You and Kanye, you and Kanye said Kanye was friends, but, and he's gold. He goes through some things, like bipolar. I mean, one moment he's, like, screaming. There's no denying his talent. We're not here to defame the man. With his talent is second to none.

His rap album, he produced, he does all that. But don't you think sometime game he goes overboard? Again, it's one of those things where I'm going to find myself back in, you know, back in that realm of non-judgment, you know, and my grandmother, God rest of her soul, told me a long time ago, like, you know, you can't be judged by man. You can only be judged by God. So it's like, sometimes I go crazy. Yeah.

And so I can't be like, damn, yeah, I think you're going a little crazy. Right. Like, sometimes I do. And so all I can do is be some shit, though, in my head. I'd be like, God damn it. Ninja, you. Don't call me this week because I'm going to have to do it with you. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Right. But, yeah, man, I'm just in full support mode of my brother. Me and Ye been down before Rockefeller, before after Matt, before all that. We would see each other around L.A. We were both trying to get on and just always, you know, exchange, like, words and freestyles and all that. So that's been my brother for a long time, man.

And I actually, like, I actually love him like a brother. That's my guy. But you guys had some differences before. Yeah. So did you want Sterling? No, you know what? I ain't going to like, game. I don't think we've ever, I mean, we, you know, we fought like brothers, like,

because he tried to, you know, he tried to get the best of him. I can't let him get the best of me. But, no, because our relationship was totally different. Even though he's my brother, he's three years older, he was always more like a father figure and I treated him as such. Same thing. And so while I would like somebody that I didn't, that wasn't my brother, I would curse Dale, I never curse my brother.

I never curse my sister-style because it's like a father-son relationship. It's like a mother-son relationship. So I have too much respect to get into her. Now, my home boy, yeah, I've cut some of them out. Yeah, so that's how it is. except that Yay, well, yeah, man,

he's just not my typical homeboy, man. And again, man, he go through, you know, his episodes. And so as a friend, as a brother, as somebody that actually

cares and loves them, should I just leave them by the wayside? No, man, I should call and, like, talk to him. And a lot of people, they see what's on the surface.

I talk to Yeh behind the scenes, man. And a lot of these situations or sometimes where people might feel like he's diving off the deep end, I mean, diving in the deep end, I call and be like, yo, it's just, you know,

is this what we're really doing right now? And then he'll say whatever he say, but then he'll call me back days later and be like, you know what, I feel like this. But, again, that's that bipolar disorder that we may all possess, you know, certain, you know, amounts of. I'm just trying to figure out how this man's supposed to feel you're supposed to be as, boy, y'all cool,

and then you say he slept with an old lady. You know what, man? Let me get, you're 24. again home. I was 24. Now, but you know what? I met I met Kim before Ye. Even though you met her before Kanye, and I'm not saying it's true or untrue, but let's just say for the sake of argument, this is true. Why would you bring that up

and say it publicly? Man, sometimes I guess 24. Damn. No, nah, I think I was probably 30 then. You know what, man? Sometimes, man, you wake up and choose a little violence. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I, if I was sitting here and I told you, or I try to make up, you know, an excuse for my behavior at times, there just is no excuse. It's just the wrong thing to do on the right day, you know? Like, I don't stand on none of that. I shouldn't have done that, but I did it.

And you know what, yay, who is honest as he is, he called me. He was like, you know, I love you. But can we not ever talk about my wife again? And they were married at this time. Yeah. And I said, you know what? even though I'm bigger and stronger, you got that. Right.

So I gave it to him. I was like, man, I'm not going to do that no more. And I haven't, like... Did you call her and apologize? Nah. I don't think you got to apologize to them. Yeah, you do, man. You put that woman business out there like that game.

Damn. I mean, her business was out there. But that ain't got there to do with you. Somebody else do that. I'm talking about you. I'm talking about game. I ain't talking to them. If I get them in the cross from me,

I'm going to ask them about that, too. Yeah, man. You know what it is with Chris. I got a lot of love for Chris Jenner, man, and Chloe and Kim and Courtney, man, still to this day. Yeah. And, you know, we came up together, too. Yeah. We were, when we was going around, you know, party in L.A. in the beginning, the early stage of my career, it was Paris, Kim, Chloe, Courtney, we was all chilling.

But yeah, man, it just, you know, sometimes it is what it is. But I'll apologize to Kim today. Yeah, I appreciate that. You know? Okay, right there. Oh, right here. Hey, yo, Kim. Shannon wanted me to tell you.

No, no, that ain't no apology. You can't say, I want you to do that. You say, Kim, I was wrong for what I said and I want to apologize. That's how you do it. I know. Kim, I was, I'm apologetic for the way that I displayed, you know, or discussed or interrelations with the public. Okay. How about that?

You mentioned that Kanye gave you. Did Kanye give you two-made box? Yeah, man. See, that was what Kim was talking about. She was talking about that thing on the special that they, like, okay, where did the Ferrari's go, Kanye? Where did the Maybox go? Where did they go? And you, why would you take that? I didn't take them, man. I told him not to send them. And I asked him. I was like, man, I asked him 20 times. I was like, you sure? He was like, yeah, man, I owe you a lot more than these cars,

but it's just, I don't need them. I'm just get some more. And then I got him, and I was like, damn, it's like a little small denning one. So he probably saw that one with Dennett and just wanted some new ones. I don't know. But yeah, he gave him to me, man. And he, you know, He said it was just one of those things. And you accepted him. I tried not to accept him, man. You ain't tried very hard. I didn't try to send him back.

And he said, no. I give you some used shoes. You're going to say, nah, bro, I'm good. Yeah, they wouldn't really use them. They were still brand new. Man, because she felt that people knew he would have these episodes and would take advantage of his kindness. Is that, like, she would ask him, like, Kanye, where are the cars?

And it's like, no, I gave him such and such. I didn't know you was the such and such Yeah, I mean, not I mean, she's probably talking about you know, his history of like giving him Yeah, yes, yes But, um, we don't frown upon you know, Jeff Bezos

when he gives away things or, you know, people that have a lot of money, man, sometimes they're charitable. And I'm not saying I'm a charity case, but I'm saying people that have amassed a certain fortune may not be as materialistic as the normal person. So it's like they see, you know,

cars every day. So it's probably like, nothing. Let me just get east of the game. He probably, you know. Did you keep him? You still got him? They over the day. They have the house. I don't drive them as much as I would like to, because I like to bring them out together, but I'm only one person. How are you going to bring your old lady drive one? Hey, man, you, and she does. I read when you said you didn't want to be a billionaire. Why would you want to be a billionaire?

That's too much money, man. No, you can help some people. So if I was a billionaire, then I wouldn't be a billionaire. Because then I would Beating gave it all the way. You ain't got to give it all the way, but you can, I mean, there are some causes that I'm sure you would like to help. Let me tell you, man.

Anything above 100,000 is... A hundred thousand? I mean, 100 million. Oh, okay, I was going to say it. Anything, no, 100,000, that's going... You're in poverty, your daughter. I don't know where you're going with that. But anything above 100 million is just way too much, man.

You don't know, no one needs that much. I don't know about that game, but I should like to find out if that's too much. Shannon, you're rich, man. I mean, I'm healthy. I got my life. I got my kids. I've got people that love me. Yeah, I'm okay.

But a billion, I just think about all the stuff that I could do. Like, help my university, Savannah State. There are a lot of causes that I would really luck to get behind it and to really help. Right. Which would make you not a billionaire anymore. That's okay. That's what I'm saying. But see, if I have a billion, so if I have a billion and I gave like $500 million away, I'll still be okay.

Yeah, that's still too much money. You're going to end up giving more away. and you're going to get back to probably where you are now. No, no, no, no, no. I didn't get that much away now. Yeah, me, man. I'm not that materialistic, man. I don't put a, like, I don't put any love value in, I mean, like any love into material things.

Yeah, I got nice things, but I don't, anybody knows me to tell you, if my car get broken into or somebody steal something from me, man, it's like, I don't care. What if you caught them breaking into your car? That's a different issue. Well, you don't get it. It's a material thing. Hey, go ahead. Hey, go ahead. Yeah.

At that point, man, you are challenging my manhood and you're also in violation of my home or my private spaces. So I got to get with your ass. Point blank. I read that when you first started, even though you had all this money, you still lived in the hood. Yeah, man. I was 24. It just. 24 was really effed up year for you.

It was a lot of crazy it. It was, because I had money, man. I had a lot of money. I remember one point. At one point in time. man, I had $4 million in the safe, right? In the hood. And the reason I did that is because every morning I wanted to see it.

Right. I wanted to open the safe and see and make sure that I was still rich. Because I couldn't believe it. Right. And so I never put it in the bank until one day my mom was like, boy, you're about to, she's like, boy, you're about to steal with this motherfucker I ever met in my life. Number one, you have number one record on the billboard and you're still living on the block. And number two, you got all that cash over there.

be taken from you any day. Yeah. Yeah, so she made me put it in the bank. Yeah, because that had to be a big ass safe because that's a lot of cash. Then I lost 36% of it. How? To Uncle Sam, man.

Oh, bro. Come on, man. As soon as you put your money in the bank, it's gone. But first of all, you're going to have to pay taxes on it when you got it anyway. I know. You ain't got to pay nothing. Well, you don't. As long as I put that combination in, open that door,

and every time I did it, say, ha. But living where you were living and driving nice cars, you know that brings on resentment, that brings on jealousy. Yeah. And you have to be careful because people are like, oh, that's ninja just trying to show out in front of us. And then you know what that happens. You know, jealousy brings on resentment. Resetment brings on people want to do things to you. Yeah, we had several shootouts during the process where the documentary was out.

We had a lot of shootouts. But it was normal to me. I was already, I remember one specific time, the one that changed, there was two incidents. I went to the documentary album release party with the whole front window shot out my Range Rover. I didn't have a window. So I was on the 110 freeway with the wind just coming through the car. Pulled up, parks. I was like, I can't not go, you know, but we had just had a shootout.

And one of the bullet holes went through my son's car seat. And that was the turning point. That's the day I was like, yeah, I can't do that. Can't do it over here no more. You didn't think that was odd? Until I saw the bullet hole in my son's car seat, then I knew I knew I was tripping. You got up, so after that, you like, I'm out.

I left everything. I got this problem where when I move, I leave everything that I had in the previous house. I just leave it. I've done that about five times in my career. But you purchased some homes on the block? All of them. Yeah, and I had the...

But see, that's another thing, why it was hard to really take advantage of us in the hood because we lived on a coda sack right so if you came down there you was trapped you there was no other there was no out there you got it and so it was one two three six houses on the block we had them all all the homies lived in all the houses and before you even made a right on the block somebody would stop you at gunpoint on the corner roll your window down and ask you who you here to see now had I did that in this day and time I I'd be up in that thing fighting the RICO. Yeah, for sure.

Yeah. But again, something about when I was 24, man. It might be Kobe, you know? It's my lucky number. When you look at, like, what happened to Nipsey. Yeah. Nipsey ended up getting gun down in his own hood, which is tragic because he tried to do so much to help the community in which he came.

Right. And it was someone from that very community that took his life. Yeah. When you look back and you think, like, damn, that really, really, really, It could have been me. Yeah. The difference between that situation, and I, again, I wasn't, I wasn't there. And Nip is one of those, one of those great humans, man, that he, he was going, he was going

to do a lot more, a lot more for a lot, for a lot of people. And he was going to be probably bigger, a bigger structural, structural figure for for adolescent youth in Los Angeles than I'll probably ever be. Because my thing was to get out and never go back. Right. You know?

And that's how I felt. I felt like Compton took so much for me. L.A. took so much for me. Why do I want to go play reindeer games on the block with the homies when I'm already, I've already made it out? So I limit my presence in the hood. But when I do go,

I'm going 30 and 40 deep. And I'm not saying these days. You know, these, I mean, if I do go out, it's still the same. But, yeah, man. You got to roll like that in your old hood? I mean, or you can roll up to Jesus and tell them why you hear. That's just how it is, man. That's how it is.

But then they get mad and they say, well, game don't come back. Because y'all don't appreciate me. Why come back to this? I left this. And I think, you know, y'all should appreciate and be happy. Like, man, he was the ones that made it out. see guys you can make it out right why why we we us like that um i think i think it's the way the way you come back you know um and nip did it he did it the right way i think that it was

just one of those things that it was one of those coincidental tragic times where the devil meets a higher power and then they intersect and the outcome was him meeting the untimely demise. I think about that day when I got that call a lot. I also think about times where situations I put myself in could have rendered me helpless. And for sure, like, I'm not going to sit here and lie to you. There's no way I should be alive today after everything that I've been through. I've brushed, I've had brushes with death multiple, and I mean multiple times. 20, 30 times in my life to where I've somehow miraculously, you know, made it out.

And that's not everybody's story. So is it luck? Is it energy? Is it, I don't know what it is, man. I just know that Nip not being here no more is as tragic today as it was on the day that happened. I hate that that happened to such a good person. And I knew him.

I was part of, you know, his come-up story, you know. And that was the first time in our, I think in our lives that we've seen a rapper get killed and dot lose his life on the internet in a video that we could watch. And so that was so impactful that it was a death hurt around the world. And so that's why I think that it's important for his brother Sam and for his family and for us's, you know, friends and fans to make sure that his legacy is everlasting, man. because he was a super solid guy. You said something very interesting. And I asked you, I said, why can't when we make it, we go back

and you said, it's how you come back. Game. So you mean to tell me, if I leave that neighborhood and I come back and I've made it, I'm an NBA superstar, I'm a rap star, I'm an entertainer. How have I made it? You mean to tell me I've got to come back

with those same raggedy clothes? I got to come back in the same raggedy car? No, when I said it's how you come back. I mean, like, in a week, I got a, I'm the Grand Marshal at a Compton parade. Okay. Right? I'm going back, but I'm coming back on that type of time.

Okay. And so I said, you know, Nipsey was, Nip was an exception because he put the marathon store there. He was always back giving to the neighborhood, and he was, you know, maybe a little bit more present than he should have been. Yeah. But, yeah, I think it's how.

But then again, man, sometimes, man, God has his way with all of us and we can't I mean I've never met a human that could question God does sometimes I think access you mentioned like he was accessible sometimes access breeds resentment

right oh no a day you know you're 100% right like I said at that point though you're at the mercy of negative energy and the powers that be

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