Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Tony Yayo Part 1

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/SHANNON and use code SHANNON and get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup!  Tony Yayo joins Shannon Sharpe at Club Shay Shay for a raw, unfiltered conversation about his life, his career in hip hop, and the brotherhood behind G-Unit. Yayo starts by comparing life in Europe to America, saying liquor tastes better, food is healthier, and there aren’t guns everywhere like in the U.S. Fresh off tour in Europe with Chris Brown in Manchester, he talks about how Washington D.C. feels dangerous today with residents scared to drive their own cars. Yayo reflects on growing up in the Southside of Jamaica, Queens, calling it the best borough in New York over Brooklyn and the Bronx. He shares that his parents are from Haiti, and explains how he got the name “Tony Yayo” from Scarface. He dives into his upbringing, calling immigrants hard-working, recalling his strict parents, and saying their divorce led him toward the streets and drug dealing. He dropped out of school, hustled while working around his mom’s schedule, and even had $100K thrown away by his mother. He remembers being robbed at gunpoint for a Starter jacket, his mom’s house being shot 22 times, and the pain of calling her from jail after being arrested. Yayo describes how 50 Cent and Lloyd Banks look out for friends coming out of prison, how he ended up dealing drugs, and why the worst part of street life was disappointing his mother. Yayo reflects on hip hop beefs, loyalty, and survival. He says he’ll never be mad at DJ Khaled for siding with Fat Joe during the feud with 50 Cent. He remembers riding in a bulletproof truck riddled with bullets, the murders of PnB Rock and Pop Smoke, and why he prefers hanging with his lawyer over rappers. He recalls being harassed by hip hop police when G-Unit was labeled “the most dangerous rap group in the world.” He praises Eminem as his “favorite white boy in the world,” calls Dr. Dre one of the best producers, and says Eminem listens to details like “the footsteps in Poltergeist.” He talks about how Eminem’s cosign made Joe Budden’s career, how Kanye West was around before fame, and how 50 Cent would turn down million-dollar deals. Yayo shares vivid stories about his friendship with 50 Cent — from knowing him since age 12, watching him box in the projects, and remembering the day he was shot nine times at his grandmother’s house. He says 50 didn’t want to be seen weak in the hospital, later rode around with a vest and gun looking for enemies, and didn’t even like “Many Men” until Yayo convinced him to keep it. He recalls 50 Cent giving him $1M, letting him sleep on his couch under strict rules, and always looking out for him when no one else did. He also revisits beefs with Ja Rule, Rick Ross, and Fat Joe, and explains why he’ll never be cool with Ja Rule. Yayo opens up about his rap journey, starting in basements as a dealer-turned-rapper, being starstruck partying with Mike Tyson, Venus and Serena Williams, Wesley Snipes, Samuel L. Jackson, the Kardashians, and even the owner of Ray-Ban. He recalls Mike Tyson telling him to expand his horizons, leading him to caviar. He talks about performing with Cash Money, almost signing J. Cole and Nicki Minaj to G-Unit, and Atlanta artists like Outkast, Jermaine Dupri, and Lil Jon. He says Biggie was a better songwriter than Ice Cube, praises Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Ghostface, Slick Rick, KRS-One, LL Cool J, and Heavy D, and discusses Nipsey Hussle’s death in his own neighborhood. He reflects on modern rap and street culture — drill music glorifying murder, rappers like King Von, BloodHound Lil Jeff, and Q50 rapping about their crimes, and why kids today flaunt guns with switches on Instagram. He talks about Tekashi 6ix9ine snitching, Fat Joe enjoying Gunna’s music despite controversy, and whether Young Thug and Gunna might reconcile. He weighs in on Drake sampling his music, the Drake vs. Kendrick Lamar beef reminding him of Nas vs. Jay-Z and Tupac vs. Biggie, and why Beyoncé and Taylor Swift are the only artists making real money in streaming today. From doing time in Rikers Island with Diddy’s bodyguard to meeting Donald Trump after jail, from charity work with the Knicks to investing in real estate, Yayo tells it all. He talks about loyalty, losing friends, being stabbed, doing Hot Ones as its first guest, and being starstruck by Nas, Beyoncé, Nicki Minaj, and John Cena. Through it all, he credits 50 Cent, Jay-Z, and Eminem for inspiring him to handle his money wisely — while never forgetting the streets that raised him in Queens.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's why all my life. I've been grinding on my life. Yeah. All my life. Sacrifice. Hustle paid the price. Want a slice. Got the roll a dice.

That's why. All my life. I've been grinding on my life. Hello. Welcome to another episode of Club Shethe. I am your host Shannon Sharp. and Sharp, but also the proprietor club Shay Shay, stopping by for conversation on the

drink today, the real talk of New York. He's a street legend, a key figure in the world of hip-hop, a certified platinum-selling rapper, chalk-topping artist, a natural entertainer, a member of the passport board's Inc. He defines the word loyalty. From the

iconic group, G-G-G-G-U-Met. Creator, you can't see me dance. Wave your hand. Here he is, ladies and gentlemen. Tony Yale. What's up? Yeah, yo, what it do? Yo, he made that sound so good, man. It's about time I get some love, man, get some problems. You deserve some love, bro.

It's been a long journey in this industry, man. Bro, we brought out the best for you. This is my cognac. Shea by LaPorteur, a platinum Vsop. Let me know what you think. I know you're going to keep it a buck with me. That tastes good, man. I can't front.

50 got some cognac, too, Branson. Y'all got some good shit. Maybe I need to collab with something, because. this shit is some good shit right there I appreciate that and I know see I know you know something about brown too yeah I know about the brown liquor

50 got the brands in I always been a fan of Hennessy and like right now I was just telling my friend I don't know if the liquor's watering down but it don't taste like that like I don't know if these liquor brands is getting cheaper or something

but everybody was complaining about the Don Julio in the street he was complaining like something just wasn't right and when I was overseas liquor was tasting different it was tasting better so I don't know if it was U.S. there. Well, I mean, obviously, and it's native, I mean, seemingly things taste better over there

than it does over here. Definitely. You think there's something to that? You think there's something to it? You think the market, the U.S. market? I think overseas, like, when you go to, like, a subway or something, they got, like, low-fat mail only, you know, and a soda's a real small. You know what I'm saying? Everything is, like, more kind of more healthy. They don't have no Captain Crunch Frosted Flakes Right Anything with like

Added process Preserved the day They don't have it over there So that's the healthy thing And then you know There's no gun violence Over there like that Right

Certain places have guns You know like sweetening And stuff like that But that's like in Probably the bad neighborhood But they clean that up Like how Trump Trying to clean up

America right now You know what I'm saying He got running down the street In D.C. I was talking to my man from D.C. Right. He was scared to drive his own car in D.C. My man country. Right. That's Dave Chappelle, you know, guy. So, and he was saying that

he went with his moms. He had to go through checkpoints and all that. Damn. Yeah, I ain't trying to be. Yeah, because the streets is crazy right now, especially, you know, where we're from, New York City. Man, thanks for pulling up the club, shesh, how you, how are you being, man? I'm good, man. Just came back from overseas. Um, where we went to Estonia. We went, strike Estonia, Paris, Poland. Damn. Um, we came out with Chris Brown in Manchester, which was that's like the new I've been seeing snippets of it on social media shout to Chris Brown

he's the new Michael Jackson yeah that one he did that performance he did in the rain oh man I was talking to like Curtis Battle because he did production for Eminem and 50 and a whole other people a whole bunch of stars

and he was just talking about one LAD screen was like $40 million and I was wild by that like you got people got to understand the money he's spending on production the production You know about that. I absolutely do.

Millions of dollars. So a lot of the money that he's making, he's spending on the world to give the world a good performance. To make sure everybody know this is a bit, that's top of the... Yeah. Sold out MetLife Stadium. What was that? I think 80,000, two nights in a row, never been done by no artists.

Wow. And it was raining. I was like, this guy is the new... So for me, to be on stage with him, 50, you know, Uncle Murder was there. You know what I mean? To come out on stage with Chris Brown was crazy. I'm like, yo, I'm a part of the show. Yeah.

Like, that was big. We came to Manchester. He sold that out like three days in a row. Wow. So, yeah, he is the new Michael Jackson, man. I got to give you to him, man. I can believe it. You're from Southside, Jamaica, Queen.

Yes, shout to South Side Queen. So is there a North Side, Jamaica, Queen? Yeah, there's a North Side. Okay. So why we only hear about South Side? Because that's where we're from. Ain't nobody come by the North Side? No, North Side is lit.

North Side is, we consider Jamest to Jay? Right? Yeah, Hollis, Run DMC. So Northside, LL, they was, you know, big in the rap game before. Yeah, yeah. Southside was even put on. Right. You know, I mean, those are the guys we look up to.

Obviously, 50, he was signed a Jammaster, Jay. Rest and peace to him. You know, his mural's right on Jamaica Avenue. Right. But, you know, like, we looked at, I looked at, Run DMC, to me, was my best rap group of all time. Yeah, they kind of gotten kicked up. Look at Brooklyn.

Brooklyn got Biggie, J. Hove, Kane, Kim. Queens got LL. 50, Noz, Nicky, the Bronx, we know about the buggy down Bronx, K-R-S-1, BDP. Shout the fat Joe, man, too. Yeah, man, I can't forget about you. Can't forget about crack. So, is Queens the best borough? I mean.

Because I was in Queens Bridge with Steve Stile, and I was with Judge, uh, Knosbrough, jungle, and got an opportunity to see down there, so I didn't get a chance to go over there. What was that, what was that line now said a while ago, Queens, run y'all niggas, ass, from Simmons was that that was the line right it goes back from in time when you look at Renn DMC when it's Christmas time in Hollis Queen right I remember having a boom box I had Haitian parents I had to plug it up they never let us get batteries because they feel like you gonna get robbed or something right so my man Bobby across the street he was spoiled he had the boom box equalizer always that

spoiled kid he had batteries but we had it plugged up to my mom's porch we couldn't leave the porch with the radio and we played that tape till the tape pop damn and you gotta think about it what was their They was the first rapist to be on MTV. Yep. Right? What they had a song with Bon Jovi? What was that?

Walk this way. Well, no, that was Aerosmith. That was Aerosmith. You know, I don't know too much about the Rock and Roll. Yeah, yeah, yeah, walk this way. I don't know. But I look at like Queens, we're the pioneers. You know what I mean?

Even when you look at Marley Mall, Molly Maul, he put out Big Daddy Kane. Mm-hmm. So, you know, me and my friend, we always have this Brooklyn Queens argument, but our Queens, come on. Marley Mall put out King, and Kane is like, when you look at people always say, yo, what's your top five rappers?

Whatever we're talking about. Right. Because if we're going to go to 80s, what's you going to go, Rakim? Rale. We're going to go, Kane, KRS1, Slick Rick. Damn, you went all lyricists. You went all lyricists. I'm talking about the wordplay is exemplary.

I think if you're going to 80s, you've got to put L in that. Of course. L had hits from the 80s to 90s to the 90s to 2010 to the 20s. to the 2000s. He did. You know, you know, it's just, what was it? Was he signed to Def Jam when Jay took over? I think that's what kind of made shit a little funny for him.

Right. And I love Elle, L.L. That's like hands down one of my favorite rappers. Yeah. Do you feel Elle get the credit he deserves? Nah, hell no. I agree with you. Come on, cars ride by with the booming system.

Mm-hmm. The Brooklyn Queens doing it. Going back to Cali. Going back to Cali. I'm going to knock you. wild. I need love. From the 80s to the 90s to the two. Hell, no, they don't give LL as much credit he deserved. Why? I don't know. Because I think that rap game is more about image. Okay. And he doesn't fit the image of what a rapper

should be or look like. Because he was in shape, he had the fat gold chain, he had the can gold. I just feel like executive wise. Okay, okay. When he signed a death jam and he was under Jay, was DMX on the label at that time too? Them niggas wasn't feeling that because at that time no disrespect to jay he sold um a million 10 10 records i think a million apiece but dmx went diamond right l l he hell no he don't get enough props from the 80s to the 90s to the early 2000 even when he had hey lover yeah he was in shape he had the image yes he's one of them we got to do top 10 and top 20 instead of top five right kind of hard yeah it is especially when you talk about you're talking about 50 years of rap let's just say for the sake of

going to just take 50 years of rap and you're going to you're going to whittle it all the way down and say okay give me your top five that's what i'm saying that's hard to do because i like cool mo d i like stepsonic saw and pepper was the first nicky and kimp you know those are the first girls that spinderella i was still mad at them when they got the other spinderella the original spinderella right right back then the DJ was as important as the rapper like public enemy had terminate x Mm-hmm. Right? Jam Master Jay. Yeah.

And then you had Jazzy Jeff and as well as other DJs. You know, just can't name it. I love hip-hop. That's what I feel like. It changed our lives. Like, we went from being in my man, Fat Shire basement when the police chase us off the block to being around the world and people know Tony Yale. I might not have the fame 50 got.

Right. I don't even want that fame. I like my fame a little better. Right. Because I feel like we need a way. You can go places that don't have to. You can play it right on in. I'm outside.

I'm outside and I'm here and yeah, people know me, but they're not running me down like I'm an Eminem or Jay-Z or Beyonce or Chris Brown. They got to be in their room on their phone. Nah, I don't want to do that. Just give me the money they got or half of the money. This episode is brought to you by prize picks. You and I make decisions every day, but on prize picks, being right can get you paid. Don't miss any of the excitement this season on prize picks where it's good to be right. Y'all already know I'm pumped for week two of the season.

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I could have been Tony Montana, but you got French Montana. Right. But I went with the Tony Yale because I was just a hustler. Right. And then, you know, when we first got on, 50, be like, yo, what would you call yourself? Like, what would be your name? Like, describe yourself. Who are you? And I'm like, well, I hustled my whole life, so I guess Tony Yale. And that is stuck. Yeah, because I love the block. That's one thing about me. I used to really love the block. People go party.

I'll stay on the block. Easter time, we was on the block. Because it just felt like it was a gang, but it wasn't a gang. Right. You know what I mean? Now the stuff that's going on now is crazy. Right. So being the son of immigrants, what was your American experience like?

So how, like, did they bring, like, all the entire culture of Haiti? or were you able to, like, did they give you some of the American experience that you were growing up? Well, my parents, my mom's come from a, I think it's called Mumbai, Mumbai, something like that. I forgot. She's from that town. My dad is from Port-au-Prince. They came to Canada first, which my uncle was from, her brother. And they're from Canada.

They came to, you know, every Haitian in Jamaica and they go to Brooklyn. I don't know why they go to Brooklyn first. I'm really supposed to be a Brownsville, Nick. Okay, okay, yeah. in Brooklyn, but they go to Brooklyn first. Then from Brooklyn, we moved to Queens. Okay. You know, so, you know, where we're from, you know, you get a better life.

People who come from these places, like you said, you come from a small town. You come from a small town. So, you know, my mom's been a nurse her whole life, retired. So they come here and they work. That's all they know is work, work, work. That's what I learned from my mom's and pops. Right. Work, work, work.

But now it's cool to be a Haitian or African. But as a kid, you African, you Haitian, go back to your. nation, you know. Used to keep Haitian being on a low. But now it's like everybody want to be a zo. Is it, can you be lazy as an immigrant? No. Because I never, I never met a lazy Mexican, Jamaican, Trinidadian. I never met that because, you know, they all come from struggle. We all can relate to that. Like, I've been to everywhere in the world and can't go to Haiti. Ask me why. Why? They might kidnap me out there. The gangs control. The Oh, yeah. You got this dude barbecue, and, you know, he's one of them dudes that, you know, they talk about, but they, but what I like about it is when you watch what they talk about, they talk about Haiti been robbed since the beginning of the time. We are the first people to free the slaves against the Napoleon Army. People don't know that. I got fire of my blood. Like, we freed the slaves before anybody. We beat the Napoleon Army, right? And then we had to negotiate a deal because they didn't like that. There was some kind of deal where we had to pay

them 150 million dollars back. I think it was just paid like 10 years ago. And then years after that, Americans came there and they rated the Federal Reserve. They took all Haiti's gold. So when you go to Haiti, it's nice beaches, nice water, nice everything. But they deserve a lot of money back to them. But that's not the image. That's not how Haiti is portrayed. Because as you mentioned, you know, it's controlled by the gangs. You couldn't go back there. You feel like you'd be kidnap and held for ransom. There's a lot of violence going on in Haiti. So the portrayal that we as Americans that we get from Haiti is not is not very pleasing. Yeah, but people can't eat. There's nothing to do. You can't get clothes. Like my mom sends clothes to Haiti when she came.

We send clothes. I give her clothes and stuff and you send it there. But it's like it's like they forced in a position where the government is not helping them. They had an earthquake. She just fucked. Oh yeah. Yeah. I'm clean. You know, so you can't just. We can't just blame it on the violence. I feel like when you see violence in anywhere, like Brooklyn, you just had 14 people shot, little kids, shooting people, switches. Where the switches come from? Where do the switches come from?

How is a kid 15-year-old can get a switch, make a gun, a handgun into a Uzi? How was that even possible? Yeah. You know, back in the day... A couple of years ago, you weren't even thinking about that. Yeah, back in the days, you heard the guy shot 10 times. You know, he's still alive.

The bullets and the ammunition like that. Now they got switches. Yeah. And innocent people, out of the 14 people, old ladies got hit. It's crazy. Yeah. Because New York now, New York is ridiculous. It's just like L.A.

There's gangs everywhere. You got bloods. You got Crips. You got G. I don't even go out. If I got to go somewhere where I got to bring a gun, I don't even go. Yeah. Yeah.

If you got to take that tube with you. I'm chilling in Hampton somewhere with my lawyer. Shout to my lawyer. Yeah. So, so give me a typical day. What was a typical day like for you growing up, your parents are immigrants, what they're talking to you about, they're trying to make sure you get your school, make sure you do the right thing, stay out of trouble.

So what was a typical day in your household like? I feel like if your parents are like Haitian or Jamaican, it's love, but it's always tough love. Yeah. So it's not, I love you. I love you. I felt like I always look for that for my whole life because my parents never did it. And I love my mom's.

it was always tough love. My mom's will go to work. Christmas, Thanksgiving, food on the table. That's how Haitian is. You go to school, get good grades. If not, get on your knees, you won't get beat. Like, those are the kind of beatings we had. So when I go to people's house and I don't open your fridge,

it's because we got so many beatings back in the days. You can't over the fridge. Yeah, it wasn't like that. It's all about respects, moral, you know, and pray to God every day because my parents, they worked hard. They put me in Catholic school from first to eighth grade. Damn. Don't tell nobody, though.

yeah but damn you like you like the m and m character l m was battling so look banks and 50 and went to the criminal school at the point 72 is good now shout to 72 but at that point 72 was a bad school my parents didn't want me to go to right Haitian parents they send they'll send you they'll spend their last for their kids to go to catholic school right i was a capital school church i turned into my criminal life like eighth ninth grade from first to seventh grade We used to take the yellow bus. Okay. So everything was like more preserved.

You get dropped off on the corner of your block. Eighth grade, I had to take the public school bus with a uniform on that. The clown. So now I got the uniform. I got to go from Laroton, from Rosedale, to Southside Jamaica, Queens. I got to take the Q85s, right? You know what I mean? And I had to stop at Springfield High School.

Back then, Springfield High School, you heard about a girl getting acid thrown in their face. Like Springfield High School in Jackson was like the schools like, oh shit. You don't want to go. Yeah, you don't want to go there. It was crazy back then. The gangs were just different. You know, you had toy soldiers, Shadow Inc., lost boys, dudes with hammers. Because I had to go to Jamaica Avenue when I went to high school.

But that's late on. So I got on a public school bus now, and now I'm seeing the realities of my life. I'm seeing niggas on the bus fighting. I'm seeing people getting cut for bus passes. And I'm like, oh, shit. I wasn't exposed to that. Right. My parents, I'm on the bus like, this shit is crazy.

Right. You know, and I'm sitting on the back of the bus. If you ain't really, if you ain't really gangster like that, you're supposed to be sitting on the front of the car. You got to get off clear. So, yeah, I'm an innocent kid, get it. I'm on the back of the bus, witness and fights, people getting cut. I'm like, oh, shit, this shit is real. So I got a starter jacket.

Back in the days, I remember I had the starter jackets. Yeah. My parents bought me in starters jacket. Never forgot this. Came on the bus from Springfield. Yeah. And the dudes was on the bus. So I had to ride to, I think, American,

with Crown, American Basley? I think American Basley. And that's when they pull a gun out on me. I'm a little kid. I'm in the eighth grade. Hold on. Did you actually think you could get on the bus with a starter jacket and get off with it?

I thought I was good, yo. I was preserved. I had Haitian parents. They don't play. You got to be in this. When that light go on, nigger, you come in the house. Don't leave the porch. I couldn't do what it. My parents wasn't letting me just run the streets like everybody else was. Do you understand how what a starter jacket was back then? Shea, not listening, bro. I went from being on the yellow bus to not seeing crime to getting on the public bus and now I'm seeing the realities of the world. So you saw the reality. So what made you possess you to wear that jacket? Because I didn't think I was going to get robbed. I was in Lala. Okay. Okay. As soon as I was I.

I got to my stop, it was snowing that day. I never forgot. I think that had changed my life and made me look at everything. He made you come up out of, and the snow, you were short sleeves on the planet? Snow, cried all the way home, geez. 38. I never forgot that. Right on America Basin.

I'm like, man. Put a snug nose on you. Snub nose. I'm a little kid. 14 years. I'm like walking from the bus stop. Damn, yeah. Had to walk all the way Rodchdale, no coat.

Then you should have said, man, come on, bro. I'm just a kid. Come on, bro. He had a 38. I'm like, yeah. You ain't do no talking? You just, you just, You're supposed to talk about, you're supposed to say, man, come on, man, my mom worked hard for this.

Because back in the days, remember, eight ball and the starter, a lot of people not here. Yes, that's what I'm saying. That's what going through my mind. I'm thinking about it. The eight ball jacket, the starter jacket, and you, like you said, okay, I was on a yellow bus. Everything was cool. But once I started getting on the city bus, man, I'm seeing all this going on. And I'm thinking, man, what was this issue to do that?

My mom's in them. I wanted the jacket, geez. No, I ain't say not get the jacket, but you know certain situations where you can't I should have thought it out, but I wasn't thinking that I just had the start. I wouldn't think nobody's going to roll me. You wanted the flaws at school. Yeah, I went the flaws in school. I did.

And I had that starter and they got me for it. Damn. Because back then, come on, eight balls and starters, man. Man, everybody wanted an eight ball jacket. Them companies should pay some of them fans. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So people got alive for the jacket. Because, yo, we make the culture, bro.

A lot of stuff that we was wearing, Averyx's, even Aver Rex's. I remember dudes is getting shot for those back in. Members only. Members only, Peles only, Pellets. Yeah. So it's like, man. And then when I went to high school, I went to high school on Jamaica Avenue,

right where Jim Master J. Studio is at. They're changing that in the condos now, but it was the Coliseum. Right. So that was the block where everybody met at, and that's when I just, just, nothing but crime up there. You're the youngest of three.

Yeah. So you close, your assemblies, y'all close? Yeah, yeah, I would say. You would say? I would say me and my brother more. Me and my sister, we are I. Right.

when she married you because you dime that because I read that your mom wouldn't let your sister go outside because she kissed the boy did she see them did did they see it or you dime out no no no my next door neighbor rest of miss people she was one of them neighbors that could slap you in back of the head yeah she was always in

a window for mischief yeah so rest the peace to her so she's seen it and she told my parents yeah and yeah that's how Haitian that's community parent yeah they'll have you in the house for 20 years after that I never see my sister again So in other words

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. We used to go on bike missions, and they used to go to the good neighborhoods to steal bikes from the rich kids and all that my brother and my brother went to do that he got caught he got caught by the firemen though they brought his ass back to the crib my brother got his ass worn out in front of the firemen like Haitian parents don't play Jamaican parents don't play trinity anything from that island they don't play um I read your dad he didn't want you to hang out on the boulevard oh never never because he knew what was up there right 3 4 on god Brewer it was you know that's the You know, everybody up there sold drugs. That's what everybody did. So it was nothing good up there.

You know, you had gambling spots up there. You had the alley, fiends up there, winos. He went up there to play Lotto. So when I started hustling, I still had to worry about him because he would chase me off the block. Come on, man, Papa do that? Chase. Get out of her. Get out of her. Haitian, crazy voice. Get out of hell. Like, Pop, you blow you, you blow it. I just had to run. What I'm going to do? It wasn't it wasn't twillam chasing your pop's getting you a bunch of me. Dukes was chasing me off the block, man.

Haitian parents because he knew what was going on. But you know what happens? Normally, when parents don't want a child to do something, it pushes that child in that direction. If a parent says, I don't want you to see that lady, or I don't want you to see that guy, what does it do? It's almost like Romeo and Juliet. It brings them closer.

It makes them want to do it even more. Did that make you want to? I think the ass whipings is what always saves somebody. like when my parents divorced yeah and my pops went to Florida that gave me leeway for the bullshit now my mom's got to work every day right she can't keep out of you she's she's working at general hospital she's a Haitian lady working 24 hours a day I'm hardly seen her now this gives me leeway to go bag up in the house because if she find that shit she doesn't do drugs in the garbage she found a gun she's throwing that shit in the

garbage you don't get what I'm saying so my pops left there was no more it was more leeway He was going. Now I don't got nobody chased me on the block. So now my mom's at work and I'm on a block all day. Right. You know.

Is there anything, do you think there's anything your father could have said? Do you think there's anything your mother could have said that it make you not want to hang out on the block? Because you saw what was happening.

I'm sure you saw some of your boys get scooped up. I'm sure you saw some of your boys get laid down but that still wasn't enough to deter you. No, because I feel like people turn into the environment. So like you got little kids in the Bronx that 12-year-old, 13-year-old killers. They're turning them. to what the environment is they're forced to right meanwhile my kids don't got to go through that

right you know got them in a nice neighborhood and that's what it is i think it's the environment because people turn into what the environment is now if all them dudes was doctors on the block maybe i would have been a doctor but they was all drug dealers right and at the end of the day they was putting packs in little niggas hands niggas were 16 15 when you really think about it right like here take this but they you know there's no rules to the game it's my response I took the pack, you know, because you start off as a worker, then you work your way up having your own shit. Now you're caught up in the game. Right.

Because you need, we used to take it, 30 off a pack, 25 off a pack. You couldn't just get your own work around my way. It was structured. Right. And then I had to work my way up to get my own work. Now I'm a fishing drug dealer. Now I don't have no job, no W2 forms. Nothing.

Sometimes it's best to get a job now. Right. Police is poor. But you don't pay his taxes because we don't want them to come back and say, oh, you have a job. LW2, no 1099, but he don't pay, he don't, he don't back, made. It's back in the day. But I just feel like the kids, it's the environment. Like, right, when you look at New York City, it's, it's a lot of gangs, man.

It's just like L.A. You can't discredit New York and say, oh, yo, the gang start. Them little kids don't want to hear that. They're straight up stone cold killers. How important was school to you? It had to be very important because they put you in a Catholic school for the first grade to seventh grade. So obviously it was very important. And it seems to me that your parents knew the way in order for them to to live their dream through you was education.

Yes, definitely. But it was important to me until, you know, I told you, I started getting into the streets. Right. And then it was like. If your parents don't divorce, your father's there. Now you've got that system of checks and balance because you're saying your mom is working. She's working 14, 16 hours a day. She can't keep an eye on Tony like she's like she's like she's like she's put like she.

to or should, Pops is in Florida. He ain't got no eyes. He ain't got that kind of connect. No. And so now you just got free reign. If your dad stays in the picture, are we having a different conversation?

Definitely. 100%. Because I wouldn't have leeway to be outside like that, bagging up and then three and a half grams turned into 100 grams. And now I'm going to get half a bird now. Now I want to do this. Now I can bag up because my mom's not there.

Right. You know what I mean? She's not there. I can go kitchen table and bag up a whole bunch of work. She's working all day. Were you ever scared that while you bagging up, she might come home? No, I knew her schedule. I knew her schedule.

Yeah, I knew her schedule. All that being said, you dropped out of school in the 10th grade? Yeah. 15. Yes. Why? Drugs, just negative shit around. School and selling drugs, they don't go dad.

They're not synonymous? Yeah, they're not synonymous. I think any kind of crime in school is not synonymous, man. It just doesn't go together, you know? It's a terrible thing. I don't try to glorify it because I made it this fall and I got an opportunity to see the world. Like, I'm not as rich as a lot of the rappers,

but I got a billion dollars worth of experiences. And I feel like that's what life is about. And sometimes in this game, you feel like it's the devil's playground. You know, a lot of bullshit goes on behind the scenes because you always want to be in control of the that got the money. They always want to kiss ass. So, you know, like, I love 50. It's never 50.

sometimes this niggas around him because and and 50's a good dude this dudes like you said that that'll never get a job one of my friends he caught a murder he forget he's forgiven for it because god forgive everybody but he got a job you know a lot of dudes you know to jail time now you got a job because where you're going to get a job at without 50 so i love 50s you know i love banks banks my dude banks you know we brothers right so i remember a lot of Us being in basements rapping when it was just the core G unit. 50 cent, Lloyd Banks, Tony A.O. You know, game, dope rapper, but he was from L.A.

Buck, dope rapper, but he was from Cashville. And when you look at Buck situation, that happened when I went to jail. Right. You said your mom threw, your mom threw away 100 grams? Yep. A hundred? And a garbage. I told it wasn't mine, so she helped me find it.

Then I went and got it. How are you going to lie to mom? You couldn't let that pay. You couldn't let that way to go. Hell no. 100 grams back then. Hell no. Find that.

That can't go into garbage. That's money. Right. Yeah, that's how we looked at it. That's why I'm glad I'm out of that life, man. I had to left that behind and the luck of music. Is there anything your mom, if your dad has gone? Yes.

He's in Florida. Yeah. If your mom sits you down and say, she's not calling you Tony she's calling you Mark Marvin you're breaking your mom's heart you're going to end up in jail but you're going to end up dead

is there anything your mom could have said to get you away from that lifestyle or had you gotten so ingrained in it that's what you knew and there was no turning back the worst part is when calling it after you get locked up you yell at last year when you get locked up my mom's the come gave me in Pennsylvania for selling drugs.

Like, me and my man, G.J., rest of peace, his mom's, Ethel Branch. They came to PA. We got caught with a little bit of shit because, you know, we was done for the day. But we was from out of town. Right. So they came and got us. So there's nothing like a motherly love, man. Yeah. It's just the worst part is calling, you know?

Because that's what a lot of these kids don't understand. Your mom's, you break in her heart. Your dad, yo, I come see you in jail. Right. I'll send you some commissary. It's more of a tough guy thing with us. But the moms, you break her heart. And that's, that's, that's real up, that feeling making that call, mom, I'm locked up. Or mom, I got to put the house.

I don't jump bail and have bail bondsmen giving her a heart attack. That was fucking up. Yeah. Even with this rap shit, like, my mom's cry got shot 22 times. Damn. 207, beefing with henchmen back in the days, right? So for me, that shit is like real shit. Like, they could have been not here.

They could have been unaligned. Luckily, the level of the house. there's levels, people's upstairs. If it was one floor, somebody would have been unalived in it. Damn. And that's like with this rap game shit. Did your mom ever say, I told you?

See, your head hard. You won't listen, but one day you will, son. Did your mom ever tell you I told you so? Or she was just like she was always there for you? My mom's to say, I'm a vacharbon. She started cursing in creos. Vakabon, I think, means idiot. Right, strike? Idiot. My creole ain't that good.

But vacabon means like idiot all kinds of shit she just started cursing the Haitian you know but she'll always come get me that's one thing about that lady God bless her you know and she's still around my pops you know he passed away I think 2018 right my mom's still around love my mom's well and you know it's crazy she's still live in the house they got shot up because that's how Haitian people is I don't care I'm gonna be in my house till I die wow he don't want to go nowhere else yeah that rap beef can get real serious you know it can get real serious that's why I say when you have Joe in here and Cala, then you talk about the Cala situation.

I could never be mad at Cala. Cala was just being loyal to Joe. Right. I was being loyal to 50. You know? Wow. So, but shit can get real. The only thing you see with Joe and us, we could be friends. Joe, I need that deal with volume up too.

The thing with Joe is, like, it never got crazy with. It never got physical. Right. And nobody ever got shot and killed. Rest in peace to my man, Lodi Matt, he got killed in a situation. My mom's crib. got shot up right you know my mom's Crip silencer she get real bullet through stoves and like people got to understand being signed with like a Kanye west or jZ it's chill mode everybody's cool

we signed with 50 cent the that got problems with everybody and we talk about street niggas world jimmy henchman preying this goes our history do do did he have beef with them or they had beef with him because there's two different things to me because it's It seemed like with 50, 50 made it, 50 was like done with that life, but they keep trying to bring 50 back. It's just always been drama. Can you ever leave that life? Like I'm gonna tell you like, I believe hip hop police was like damn they created because

of us. Like hip hop police used to pull me over and used to be like, yo, you number one on the list, yeah, yo, at that point. Right. Because we had so much drama that it was like, G unit was, yo, why they never out? Gene is banned from the club. Niggas had bulletproof trucks, like my bulletproof truck. I remember I had some people from Hot 97, the radio station.

Right. And they was like, yo, you know, you got bullet holes in my truck. And that shit was normal life to me. Because when I came home, I came from a dream. I'm in 50s house, his grandmother house, recipe to his grandma and his grandfather. And it's a little house, not much room. It was all a dream.

We listened to someone get Richard die trying on the stereo. And then I come home. I go to jail. I'm hearing him on the radio every day. We're blowing up off the mix tapes and he blew up. It's all a dream still to me. I'm here with Shannon Sharp. I'm going to shake, shake. It's a dream to me.

So I'm more appreciative than a lot of other people. Right. Did you ever worry about like getting raw because like, you know, this is a cash this is a cash business, bro? So you know, and when you give up, you take the money you put it in, people know you got money on you. Listen, when you got a like 50 telling you,

my first Jacob watch, I got a Jacob up on now too yeah this five times on is that would listen so jacob jacob watch he gave me my first jacob watch and 50 said yo never don't forget niggas blow your head off for this shit see 50 was he was ahead of his time that's what people didn't understand right he was ahead of his time meaning he was he because i'm only two he only two two years older than me right right but he was ahead of his time even when he was outside at 12 that had him more advanced than a lot of niggas he was ahead of his time. He always was a marketing jeans. He always was smart. When he gave me the watch, he said, oh, don't forget, a nigger blow your head off for that. That shit

stuck in my head, like, oh shit, yeah. Well, you should have learned your lesson with that damn starter jacket. Yeah, I did. That was it. That's true. The starter jacket back in the day, so you know what they're due for Jacob. No, but for the Jacob, he had to remind me because a lot of rappers, you know, their jury, you know, some, you know, they feel like they'll die for their shame. Look at rest in peace, P&B Rock. Get it up. You know, they got him, you're at the Waffle House in South Century. Yeah. Look at Pop Smoke. You know, you and Beverly Hills, but Hoover Street down the block. Yeah. It's a sad thing, but for me, I don't care about jewelry.

Hell now. I don't get me a fuck. Isn't sure. Yeah. Give me a nice car. I jump out of that with nothing on. I don't care about it because I feel like at a certain point when you're an artist, your face is a jewel. Yeah. So, niggas is like, Nipsey Hussle, face was a jewel Pop Smoke, face was a jewel P&B Rock, your face is jewel you don't even got to wear jewelry niggas know who you are

And if you don't wear it, niggas ain't gonna do shit to you Right They don't care, but now robbers know Oh yo, that's a Richard Millie. Oh shit, that's a, that's a AP. Yeah, that's worth for $150,000. Oh shit, yo, that's an auto... Yo, he got...

And you gotta think, you got niggas in the hood that where they live it's cheaper than with that watch you got on. Oh, for sure. And it's like this everywhere, Philly, Chicago, New York, because I just, for me, I'm to the point in life

where I just don't hang out in certain places. I'd rather hang out with my lawyer or something or go to dinner or go somewhere I don't need to bring a pistol. But 50 was telling us

that years ago, like, yo, you don't need to go here, yo, you don't need to go there. And we used to have hip-hop police on us. They used to jump us out the car, government name, grab us by our waist. Hip-hop police was on this because we was the most dangerous rap group in the world.

Don't let these the industry fool you because they always knock G-unit because of what we've done. We got down with Eminem, my favorite white boy, maybe mad at him. We got down with Dr. Dre, a West Coast nigga. We left New York. That was the best deal ever. And we took over the industry. We sold video games.

We sold clothes. We sold sneakers. And we definitely sold records. Yes. you know and a lot of people try to take shit away because we was the most hated we was the niggas that was like fuck y'all events, fuck your parties

white parties f*** this 50 always been like that so it made us like that we always had to move militant bulletproof trucks vetses come on it was a time where man it was guns everywhere man I ain't gonna lie to you

isn't that a very tough way to live it's very tough to this day I watch my back Because it's just being an artist is a tough thing. Well, damn, you don't have peace? You don't have peace? You say you'll have to watch your back. I think being a rapper, you never have your piece, man.

Damn. I just think that's just the life of a rapper. You're never going to have your peace. It's going to be obstacles. It's going to be women. It's going to be drugs. It's going to be gambling addiction, car addiction, jewelry addiction, keeping up with the Joneses.

See, for me, I don't care. about all that shit because it's all about image that shit all fake I pray to God every day he makes sure I'm good the realest shit Dave Chappelle over he told me so you know why you turn that all that money God said my belly full that was the realest shit I ever heard from somebody so for me being in rooms with Mike Tyson Dave Chappelle I'm up listen I'm like a sponge I remember Tyson telling me it's a party my first time me and Mike Tyson everybody's in it Serena Venus I'm like this I'm a from the hood like, yo, I can't believe I'm in a party with these people, you know?

And Mike Tyson said, expand your horizons, yeah, y'all, some caviar came. And I never forgot that. That's what made me caviar, escargo, caviar pancakes in Paris. Them experiences for me is good. I'm good. I'm straight. Yeah, I feel good. We just was in Italy partying with the owner, one of the owners of Ray Band and the owner, the owner,

Dosay Gabana. Wow. You know, I don't have been in parties with Wesley Snipes. I'm like, this is from New Jack City. Yeah. You know, nico, I'm thinking to New Jack City when I see this nigga. We somewhere, Aspen, we somewhere film festival. Kardashians in there. We performing with Jim Carrey. I'm like, yo, this is Jim Curry. Oh, shit. I'm meeting Samuel Jackson. Oh, shit. I'm in these rooms. To me, that's worth a billion dollars, man. Right. I could be going tomorrow and that's i'll take that with me so how do you you drug game so how do you get into the rap game oh well my man fat shy he used to be a dj okay so he had one of them houses that everybody can go to we go smoke his pops wasn't tripping shout to r p that's the big g and we used to

just be there when a block was hot we used to run there and we used to rap on the mic in the basement because you know in queens it was all about the mixtape you know we grandmaster vick um um um DJ Dogtime, Blazing Amazing DeWick. We had all kind of DJs. So that was like the shit to go to the hole in the world parties. They might get shot up. But that's back in the days. My man has to bring eight, 10 crates.

So back in the days, to me, I love DJs now, but all this computer shit is different. Yeah. Party gets shot up. My man, fast shot. We still got to stay there and get his 10 crates because he's going to die over his crates, rest and peace to my nigga.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, because you got there out of them. We started like that. We used to be in the basement. We'll wrap over Wu-Tang shit. We used to listen to Joe, Jealous One, Envy. We used to listen all kinds of shit. My man was a dope DJ.

Everybody knew him in the hood. So that's when we started rapping and playing the round. I started rapping with him first. We had a little group rags to riches. And then, you know, 50, you know, we had Lois Boys popping in the hood. Rest in peace, Freaky Ty. That was like the first niggie Ty was popping in the hood, Lois Boys being around. 50 had, you know, to deal with Jam Master Jay.

But 50 was a good money. He had the bends and all that. So that's how he got to deal with Jay because he was like 17. the bends. Damn. You know what I'm saying? So Jay looking at him like, who this nigga? He boxed, went around the hood. 50 was a crazy nigga. Like, everybody's smoking drink. He running around the project. I'm like, what kind of shit? So, what that said? Fifty was a different nigga. Like, he'd knock niggas out in the hood. So yeah, he had a name. You know what I'm saying? Because he boxed, you know what I'm saying? But

he had to deal with Jay. So from Jay from there, he went to Columbia. So I used to be with him all the time. Like, yo, this nigga. Fifth is ill. Like, Fifth was in the basement. I ain't even, you know, he was a hustler. I ain't known for rapping, but he started rapping. Shit was crazy. His first album he did, Power with a Dollar, still one of my favorite albums. Wow.

Why does it seem like it's a natural progression from somebody that comes off the street and they go straight to the rap game? Remember when Biggie said, you ever sling crack, rock, or you got a wicked jump shot? Do your two choices, huh? Yeah, I mean, it was like music was an outlet.

Like people, music is a way for somebody, you know, it was our get away from the hood. You're running away from gun police. You're running away from narcotics. You're running away from, you know, bullshit going in the hood. You know, it's just like it was our escape. And we started doing the mixtapes and people accepted. That's why I shout to all the G-Unit fans. They rock with us because what we did was solid.

We had the streets. You know, back in the days, people wanted to beat up bootleggers. The bootleggers was our friends. That's what I was saying with 50 good marketing. People used to come up to your fifth. If I'm going to beat up this bootlegger, he got your shit. And Fifth be like, why are you doing that? They're the marketing team looking at him like.

He turned out deals for millions. I used to be in these meetings. Like, why are you doing that? No, Fifth, that's not. Nah, yeah, that's not to deal. Fifth, we round and round up. 19, I don't know what year this van was. We had a Buick with no AC.

We got vests and guns on. Why you just turned down 1.5? million. Nah, yeah, that's not the deal. He was always smart, always ahead of his time. That's why people be mad. Yo, you always mentioned 50. 50 is the reason a lot of shit happened. But you know how shit is now.

You can't even post a picture or say nothing good about a nigga. Oh, you're glazing. You're watching 50 cars. You glazes. Yo, you know, he was going to say 50. You think, 50. But, you know, he was the reason a lot of niggas lives changed. And I'll never take away nothing from him or talk bad.

about her because like I said it's never him did you so so how so how old were you when you first met 50 oh I know 50 like 50 had to be like 12 years old he was like the youngest on the block so when I used to go to the store when he was 12 I was 10 I'm thinking about Chuck Norris Bruce Lee right shit like that you know transformers he man you know little shit right so you go to the store my pops you see the littlest on the block 12 years old and they have the round Stone jacket that say boo-boo with the high risers ring. It's a little kid.

So he stood out. She was, like I said, he was 12 years old. Got a little on the block this size with, nothing but overgrown. With a rimestone jacket back in the days was the shit. And the high-rises ring, you're looking like, hold on. The fuck. So is that from that basement when you go to your partner's house and his part was cool with you guys smoking, is that where G unit was formed at?

I would say that in a way, but not in a way because 50 had to deal with GM Master J. Okay. And then after he got shot, he came back and, you know, me and him got together, and then I brought Banks to him. I brought Banks to him because Banks was a little younger. Banks was younger than both of us. And then

he just came with the blueprint, like, yeah, we're going to do this. And y'all got to go to the studio. So me, him and Banks started going to the studio. And then we started doing the mixtapes. And the mixtapes was killing the streets. Right. We We had New York City on a lot. Stop taking away shit from G unit, y'all.

And Banks is one of the top five, two lyricists, but we just had some shit, man. We was dropping, dropping and people was loving it. Fifth was just, he's just a natural writer. Banks, he just write balls for breakfast. You know, me and me, I think people respect my energy. I have balls, but I think people love my energy on stage and as well as with the music. Yeah. Do you remember about, do you remember what you were doing the morning, mid-afternoon, late afternoon, when you got the call that 50 had got shot nine times? Oh, no, I remember that. Yeah, I went right to his block. Like, I forgot who called me, but I went right to his grandmother block because he only lived two blocks away, you know, and- You didn't hear anything? You didn't hear no commotion?

I didn't have no shots. I guess I got up late or whatever, and I walked to the block and the block was cut off. already fenced off. Yeah, it was cut off. And it was yellow tape there and shit. Mad yellow tape. I'm like, oh, shit. I feel like I need my chapstick, man. My chapstick. I found it. But it was mad yellow tape on the block. So you couldn't even go down the block. You couldn't get to it. Yeah, you couldn't even get to it. Oh, got lighter. I don't even got chapstick. Yo, so I couldn't get to it. And I went to the hospital. What's the one on Jamaica Avenue? That's Mary McAllen. Mary McAllen. That's the hospital that I saved him. And I went and then, you know, it was mad, you know, people lived, people we knew. I'm Dan. He's Ty. Hello. And we're the solid verbal college football podcast. College football season is here.

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see me in weakness, it would have fucked your head up, probably would have scared you. Mm. You know, because the niggas that he's dealing with, like, cream and them niggas ain't, no, you know what I mean? They ain't no pushovers. No, they're real with it. It's real niggins. So he was like, yo, I wouldn't want you to see me like that.

But 50 didn't give a fuck later. I mean, you do realize for somebody to get hit nine times and survive. Mm-hmm. he got a call it definitely i believe it's his grandma rest in peace she was this she was outside when he got hit and then you got to think about this she was a church lady you know she was a church lady you know all i know when i was over there i used to be scared of 50 grandma she was real stern she might not say much but she was an ongoing church lady i think she she 50 quiet side and i think 50 loud side when he get crazy is his grandfather's side because i'm under this grandfather

But one day I'm laying on the couch on the run. And he was like, you're going to have to face the iron curtain someday. Damn. And I was like, I thought about being on the run. I'm like, damn, he fucked my day up with that one. Yeah. Rest of peace, the grandpa. He fucked my dad with that one, man.

Did you think 50 would make it through this situation? I mean, did they give you the, I mean, did the doctors tell anybody because you couldn't see him, but did the doctors come out there when he was talking to his grandmother, you happen to be around his grandfather, and it says the prognosis doesn't look good? I mean, I didn't even know. I just remember saying he didn't want to see nobody. He was at the hospital for a while, and everybody just left. How was PT at this time?

I had to be in his 20s, man, 24, 25. Damn. And then he came back. When he came back, he used to be strapped every day. You know, big vests on. He used to drive in that van. And he didn't care. If he's seen his enemies, it would have been over at that point.

Well, I'm glad y'all didn't see nobody. Yeah, me too, because we made it this far. Well, hopefully it's over now. Yeah, yeah. When you heard the song Winkster, he played it for you. Yeah. Did you think like, okay, this is it? Wankster?

I didn't think, you know what, you never know what's the hit record. Really? You know what? I'm glad you said that. Because you know what? Every time I asked somebody, oh, I know that thing was smoking. Oh, I knew he was going to be a star. Oh, yeah, damn.

And I knew, I was like, well, damn. Cut the cap. You never know it's going to be a hit record. Like artists might have a record that they like, like, y'all like this record. And then a record that they don't even think, like 50 didn't like many men. I had to talk him into that.

Really? He didn't like many men. Yo, this record's too slow, man. I used to be in the crib, you bugging. This is one of the hardest records. Yes. One thing about me is I always had the ear. When we're in a studio and I'm in a studio with Dre and them,

you just know that get rich and die trying is going to be some shit. Like, that's one of my best experience in my life. being in the studio with Dr. Dre and Eminem. Dr. Dre was different. For me, because, you know, he smoked hell of weed. You know, the weed is in there. The Konyaks in there. I'm in L.A. for the first time.

Like, oh, shit. He's playing in the club beat. He's playing P-I-N-P beat. He's playing, he got all this shit in the vote. I'm like, damn. This nigger, Dr. Dre got to be one of the best producers in the world. That's one of my best experiences. Then when you were Eminem, Eminem is more serious.

He's like he got playing pianos and guitars and shit like that. You're like, damn. Ain't no smoking. Eminem will tell you many men, the footsteps. He'd be like, them footsteps are from poltergeist. Like, what you know that's a producer that's like that? Those are the footsteps from polter guys. I'm like, that's in many men.

I'm like, he's listening to the little things. Damn. They just take away from Eminem. Let's keep it real because he's a white boy. Yeah. let's keep it rid of i don't listen to them in them i don't listen to them in the car you can't name five songs it don't you know listen it don't matter he still do billions on he still do billions of streams yeah give his credit you know when you look and then look at what he did group

wise right you got d12 yeah you got g unit yep 50 coside you got griselda right no no let's let's not forget let's forget about your buttons let's go back to slow the house because you can't forget your buttons in them and then Griseldo. All them co-signs help bring success to these artists. You don't think so? Yeah, for sure. We're worldwide because of M&M. I don't know why people have a hard time giving people credit.

It's Benzino. It's the only one. Benzino can't get over it because when you look at M, it's like them there destroyed the source magazine when you really think about it. Nail in the coffin. It was over. Benzino kept getting at M&M, but the machine was so big that it was like what yeah you can't tell all right you got the biggest rapper right now 50 cent em and emm we're gonna go to double xl and then you got what's the

sauce and you got what you got dray at that time dray come on it you heard them beats on give rich stock trying you're in that piece come on bro yes snoop dog come on shout to snoop like if you're an actor and you say well you know denzil washington is my acting coach that's instant credibility even when you look at game game did five million he sold a lot of records I would never hate on game I was on his first album but come on dr. Dre co-signed yes 50 cosign at the same time Eminem G unit come on bro anybody who signed on june at that time was going platinum going gold without a problem damn but never bite the hand that feed you that's what I learned about this never shit on the person that turn the

lights on yeah 50 could dismee tomorrow Yo, f*** him. I'm good, Phil. With disrespect. Because you turned the lights on for me, and I appreciate that. Sometimes people have a hard time remembering or

or they have short-term memory. Yeah. Because, well, they didn't do it yesterday. That was 10 years ago. That was 15 years ago. Because we live in a society now. What have you done for me lately? Exactly.

I'll never forget what someone has done for me, be it 10 years, 15, 20 years, It doesn't matter. Everybody, everybody got at me because when Skip and I had our public thing on television. Right. I said, I was sitting across from him because he hadn't signed for me. I wouldn't have been able to, I wouldn't have been able to be in that situation, so he could get at me like that. Right.

I got back on television. I was out of television for two years. Even when they didn't want, the higher ups at Fox didn't want, he says, I won't do the show unless he's across from me. That's real. Man, please. the lights on. You can't forget that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he might say it might, yeah, it hurt at the time, but I still realize that the position that I made, a lot of what I have was because I got back on television and he gave me an opportunity to show how well-rounded I was

that I could talk about a lot of other things other than football. Right. He gave me that opportunity. I'm forever grateful. I'm forever grateful. Anybody put me on. That's why I always shout out Eminem and Dr. Drake. Yeah, for sure. You know you do too much now. You can't even put a picture. With social media, he glazing. Yeah, ah, man, yeah, yeah, 50, you're 50's kids, this, that, you're watching 50's car. Yeah. But it's cool for me because that, I learned, I put my faith in God. That shit don't mean shit to me.

I've been making money before there was a Instagram. I've been traveling the country before there was a fucking Instagram. That shit don't mean that to me. And I know how the rap game is. Don't like me. Right. And I'm cool with that. I'm not mad at anybody.

I got money with 50. I don't need to be friends with everybody. I never disrespect nobody. Right. You know, I just sit back and be humble. That's it. Well, you guys started to blow up. You're on the run.

Yeah. I had a gun charge. Why had you gone and face the charge? Honestly, there was this judge. His name is Judge Wong, and he was like, no joke. And I just didn't want to, nobody wants to go to jail, Shay, Shay. Well, damn, you should have put the thing, you put the tool down. No, so, yeah, I mean, I was bugging out.

I got caught slipping things. happened. But for me, I didn't want to go to jail. Okay. So I got a passport. I put my brother's name on it because we look alike. I went in the passport building and everything. And I got a passport and traveled everywhere. I went to Barcelona. I went to Spain. I was around Eminem, Dr. Dre. I never wanted to go to jail. I was like, yo, I got a friend like that. He was running forever. He just got caught the other day. Where? Nobody wants to go to jail. They'll run if they have to. So I was running. I'm like, damn, I'm traveling the country. But after 9-11, happened rest and peace to everybody in that situation it turned into a federal crime so people

at the office were so stupid i'm gonna tell you what it was it was i don't want to say the girl name but they gave me my paperwork i'm just from jail i had my first day out coming home i got my paperwork i didn't even check the paperwork the paperwork had the passport in it and the passport had my brother's name it was a faulty passport oh i go to parole and hand this shit to my parole officer. You're here, man. I'm excited. I'm home. I'm Tony Yale. Oh, shit. The paperwork. Home. Get to see my daughter. She was born. Gave the paperwork to my parole officer. He was like, wait a minute. It's a passport with your face, but not your name. This is a phony document. He called the feds in my first day out.

I had to go back to the jail. I went to federal prison. What? Well, it was a reception jail, MDC. They had me in there for a minute. I was in MDC because that was like a, uh, they gave me six months and probation because it was a federal law once after 9-11, you got a fake passport, now it's federal crowd. Damn. You get out one day. Just my fucking luck. Life ain't never been easy for me. You're like, damn, I got buzzer luck. Hell you. You know, I was in that cell like, fuck. That's when you drop a tear when you buy yourself. Was that the first time you cried in jail? I mean, that was the first time, yeah, because my first day, I'm like, you have freedom. You know, you have freedom. You know, it's up on a ride. I'm handcuffed. And I'm hearing,

I want to get to know your G-unit song. I'm like, oh, my God, bro. It's on the radio. That shit is G-unis playing. I want to get to know you with Joe. I'm like, damn, man. Got to my cell, yeah, I dropped a tear. We're only human, man. you are spending time on 50 you on 50's couch of course slip on his couch yeah families around tell the people the protocol if your man's let you sleep at his place oh yeah and he got a baby mama yeah the protocols make sure you fully clothes always keep sweatpants on try to stay out the way yes business yes you know

keep a shirt on yes and try to stay out the way as much as you can right don't smoke in their house. Don't do too much. Don't open their refrigerator unless if asked, if you asked. Because sometimes, I don't know. I mean, 50 a real one. I don't know, man. To live there? I mean, like on the couch? No, he know I'm not.

But I'm saying, but just, I mean, you, you crashed the couch, man, and his people's there. I feel like this. For me, once this year lady, I don't even look, I look at it into my eyes as that's this. That's just how I was. Yes. Okay. That's right. You know, niggas get smoked with shit like that.

For real, though. Like, I'm not with your wife. I don't even want your side drink if you have one. Like, I'm just, that's just how I am. I don't play with dudes women. So for me, that was cis at that time. Right. You know, and I had love for a son.

I still got love for a son. Marquis still got love for him. I'm saying? I still got love for him. You know, sometimes the baby moms get at me a little bit online, but I don't pay no mind to that, man. I just stay humble, man, you know? You told the story that 50 granddad told you.

So you're going to have to face that out. That's still curtain. I remember 50 baby moms one time we was at dinner, and she was like, y'all are all robots, right? Because we only listen to what 50 said. We never, she said something. We ain't, we're saying, that's white. That's your girl.

We're over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So 50 say something, we do it. So I remember one time she said, y'all are robots. And my man, Halene was like, we are robots. That shit was funny, man. I got the stories, man. I'm always getting put through the ringer.

Because look, when somebody don't took the fifth no more, it's automatic, yeah, yo. Yeah. Except for banks. You know what I mean? It's automatic, yeah, yo. Yo, f***ed yo, too, man. And I'd be like, damn, I ain't even. Yeah, you got people with him.

How I get drug into it? It's always like that. You heard Fat Joe, we wanted to kill Yale. Throw him in the truck. They were serious. Everybody was always fucking Yale. Right. And Yale stay out of the business.

I love 50. I stay out of his business. Whatever happens, what he does personally, that's what he got to deal with. I don't get involved in that. That's my, that's your lady. That's your kid. I ain't got nothing to do with that. As Marquise, I got love for him.

I ain't got no problems with him. But that's between him and 50. Yeah, I stay out of that. That's not, none of my business. I stay out of people relationships. Yeah. You know I sometimes in hood, nigga, might be slapping up his girl or something like that and then come save her and now they all both beating you up.

Yeah, that's what happened. Yeah, that's what happened. I stay out of relationship business. Hey, because you know they're going to be back together a day or two. I stay out of people's business. You got to. You know, that's how I made it this fall, especially where we from. Mind your business.

New York City, that's one thing we good at. Yeah, y'all do. Yeah, y'all do. Y'all pretend y'all don't see nothing. I was like, man, you just so. People take, and you know what, people from the South take it personally. They do. They take it person.

Because we help everybody. Like, no, don't do. Don't do that. Listen. When you even think about it, right? Ross and 50, right? Ross is not, they got a beef because 50 didn't say what up to him.

That's just a New York thing at one of the wars. I wasn't there, but that's how it spied. Right. Nigger ain't say what's up to me. Because down south, y'all have more of a... Hey, how you doing? A nigga, I bring you an apple potty a crib. Yeah, from New York is looking right straight with it.

Absolutely. Poisoning that shit? Yeah, they do. My man moms one time we're eating. Rest her soul, my man strike. We eating. She come to us. You often people next door

off your food, don't eat it. Two minutes later, God came and tried to run this plate. We're like, man, we're good. I don't know till this day why she said that, but I listened to her. New York, we just different. I'm getting beat up. I don't care if you're white, Jewish,

black, Mexican, Dominican, Puerto Rican, whatever nationality. Jewish, everybody's tough. You might think this dude is soft. Don't talk to me like that. Be ready to box. So New York, we just naturally mind our business and keep it moving.

Right. So when you look at the whole rural situation, right? And I know he probably going to go in, yo, I'm in my pool. You, whatever. Because I don't care about all that material shit. Right.

My higher power's up there. Right. Right. So for me, like, you just met, you have a beef with a nigga because of a thing. But that's just more of a New York thing. Right.

Down south, y'all embraces each other more. And I love that too. I love going to Atlanta. We do. I love it like that. We love it. You go to the country and people.

say hi to you you, we're not used to that shit shit. Because when I moved I remember when I moved to Atlanta the white guy crossed the street, he brought me a cake. New York City, what's the last time you've seen that?

He brought me a cake. Yale, he says he's like, if you ever go out of town, you need me to watch your house, I'll watch the house, I end up giving the man a key to the house. That's crazy.

I'm going to tell you, why when we overseas me and my man uncle murder we do odds and evens to see if certain white people going to get an elevator with us because we black niggas in a five-star hotel right but we're not supposed to be we're the only niggas in the hotel yeah we here because you know on a bia have a 50 cent we do odds and evens yo is this niggins going to get in the elevator right damn sure spin around I seen a little kid running the elevator mom's go what are you doing rap around yeah we in a money hotel we in the best hotels in the best hotels in the They ain't never seen the in there.

They're like, man, nigger, what? We got pulled over on our way here. Yesterday. My man went to argue with police. I'm like, why are you, you know what we got pulled over for? Shut the fucking up. Yeah. You know what I got pulled over for.

Nigger, you know what we got. What the fuck you mean? Cause. Yeah. You fit to the script. Sometimes I ain't going to friend I hate when people argue a police. What I got pulled for?

You know what you got pulled over for. Well, it's Trump shit going on, like I told you, my man, running through D.C., you got to don't even want to drive. Damn. Yeah, don't even. I hope they don't come to New York and all these other places with it. But it's crazy. Rikers, what was, what was Rikers? How long were you at Rikers?

I was in Rikers for like a couple of months. That's the worst place to be in those days. Is it? Yeah, it's the worst, man. That's over there by LaGuardia, isn't it? Yeah, it's the worst, man. Y'all see a planes take? Did you daydreamed?

I mean, could you sleep? real to me that's the real gladiator school like one thing about new york new york grimy is different than everywhere else like diggers used to spit razors out their mouth like people used to be professional girls who cut you like new york is it's grimy so like rikers allen like a motherfucker spit a razor out on you cut you and you wouldn't even see it coming that's where how it is for breakfast it's not a game that's one of the most scariest experiences you could have in life damn it's going to it's going to rikers out you're going over the bridge you see the home of the boldest you bumping on it it's your first time in you know it's the most insane thing i had to deal with in

life i never wanted to go to jail again you got to smell other people shit take showers and shit watch your back this just broke up with this girl you got gang over here extorting this nigger you got bucket stolen motherfucking cut for cigarettes like what the whole other world jail and prison is a whole nother world I never want I did skid bids like I learned my lesson off a little bit like I that I can never do this so what's the difference between between jail and and prison oh jail is Rikers Allen MDC prison is you know up top the mountains well you know yeah well you got to you got to figure out what car you're gonna be in that's prison prison whole other world

that's when you go up north green all that yeah Attica that's prison jail is right Casalyn, MDC, MCC, that's federal, you know. Yeah. Yo, listen, it was to a point when it's G unit, and this is one thing why I say I love 50 again, is we had a lawyer for every situation. We had Steve Murphy, bodies, we had Scott Lehman, Federal, we had Bob Macedonia, State. The list goes on and on. Everyone Hammond, I haven't heard from him, he was a parole lawyer.

There's a different lawyer for every situation. So a lot of these kids, they get in trouble, and they don't even have the lawyer money. The lawyer money is the main thing you need to make sure you're good. Because with a legal aid, you're going straight to prison. Oh, yeah, you go, yeah. Even if you're innocent. Oh, yeah, he's going, what you go on? He's going to bid that.

Hey, he's going to plead that, Yale. Yeah, there was a lawyer supply for every situation. Every situation. And I needed one for that. But jail, experience. I never really went to. Right. I did the shock program.

Everybody'd be like, oh, he went to shock. He didn't go to real jail. That's right. I wanted to get home. Gene was blowing up. We outsold Jay Z that year. Right.

We'll beg for mercy. Right. I remember seeing it in the paper, one of the COs was blunt to. I was like, beg for mercy, that's you, right? I was on the cover. How did that look?

You're on the cover of magazine of you in here? Yeah. They're like, boy, you don't get your ass out of here? That's why I always say Eminem wearing a free A-o shit at the Grammys was like,

That was a turning point in my life because he didn't have to do that. I was on Rikers Island. That was like, oh, Free Yale, Eminem, you know. At this point, he's selling 16 million records, hard copies, not streams, not a machine. This is facts. Like, you go on a Fye, Blockbuster. Tower. Yeah, Target.

Good times. 16 million. So when Em got that shirt on Free Yale, are you watching it? Yeah, I watched it. And they look at you like, Yeah, shout out to Tracy we knew at Paul Rosenberg. They called me from Shady, Mark LaBelle, and they was like, yo, make sure you get to watch the Grammys that night.

And, you know, I'm in my house, C-73. I didn't go on with no D-Bos shit because you know jail is about politics. Because, you know, you can get stabbed over the TV and newspaper. That's what they tell you. Three warnings. TV, newspaper, and the phone. That's where a lot of shit happens. Is it first come first, sir?

Or the seniority? You know, you got the Spanish dudes. They might want to watch Caliente, and then you had the black dudes. They may want to watch BET or something. But I told him that night, you know, I just need a couple of seconds to watch the Grammys. And then he let me rock

and I watched the TV. It wasn't like I came, yo, give me the fucking TV. Right. I was locked up with one the Diddy security guards, big Bonds. Where?

That was Diddy like men. That was my man. That's my man till his day. Named Barnes. It's my dude. You said something very interesting. You said blacks versus Hispanics in jail.

You said, Hispanics go to jail. They're protected by their own. But when Blacks, go to jail, they're beefing with their own. Yeah, that's how Rikers was. So Rikers, they could be in the same gang. You could be blood and I could be blood

and they're still banging. Or you could be crib and you could be cripped and they're still banging. Why? I don't know, man. It's just the way it is. But you said, I mean, you said the Hispanics or the area. Oh, yeah. When Spanish do you get to jail, you know some Spanish, you good money. You good money. Yo, you need sneakers, you need protection. You need a knife. You need this.

Because that's how they stick together. brother you know it's a shame sometimes black people should stick together how how can we do that how can we stick together I think you start with people like me and you talking about it it's like what can we do to make a difference you got little kids out here with switches everywhere you go nobody cares about him you you know Trump just took away a lot of after-school program so you got more little kids in the street yeah you know and then the guys that are trying to help them that get the grants and try to get the

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From Shady, you know, that he works with the kids. He brings rappers around them. People like you, they need a way out. That's what it is, because my kids are good. I'm good. You know, now it's what can I do to make things better? We've got to talk about it. Where do switches come from?

Why can somebody three... And why they ended up in our community? Exactly. Why can somebody make a 3D gun now? Like, where's all that's coming from? So we say we want to clean up the streets, but where's it? coming from and why do we need a 3d gun because you're being in places where when we go to the bronx man listen i don't even go to the bronx the bronx for me is a no fly zone

damn yeah yeah i ain't going to bronx i might go to fat joan them dispensary or something real quick but i ain't going to hang out mingle shooting video dangerous out there and what it is is you know the kids the shooters are getting younger and younger they're 13 14 you got drill rap now I just smoked your brother that shit is crazy that shit is some crazy shit and I'm not against all the drill music sometimes you know some of it

is entertaining but when you're saying you smoke somebody brother or did this and did that or I killed your brother that shit is back and forth that shit is really real so now where does it stop because you do me and you do my brother I got to get you it never stops because they go right to Instagram

because now I think like you know how back in the days we used to glorify the drug dealer yeah now they glorifying the shooter to do with our bodies that's why let's keep it real that's why we like king gone that's why we like uh bloodhound right bloodhound little jeff that's why we we like it people I'm and listen I like gangster music don't get me wrong but there's a difference between gangster music and reality yes you know what I'm saying I dealt with reality part. Like I said, my mom's crib got shot up. I don't want to go through that shit. That's some real shit. But shit happens. But now with the drill

rap, it's a whole different game now. Right. Yo, you shot my brother. We're going to kill 10 of yours. Go right on Instagram because now you got social media. Well, that's even more crazy because they don't care if your mom's in the spot, your kids. You see it everything. You run down on anybody now. They don't care, man. They don't care. Some innocent people getting shot just rotting through blocks in Chicago. Oh shit, that's the eye. No, you just shout

an innocent lady. Now, that's when it's going too far. Yeah. Protect yourself, cool. Protect yourself. You should always be able to protect yourself. Mm-hmm. Right?

But when innocent people get hit, like I told you, the Brooklyn thing, lady was 61 years old and the Jamaican spot. How are they getting all them guns is hard as hell to get a gun in New York, Yale? Nah. I mean, they get, they're hard for you.

Because I'm trying to do it legal, huh? Guns is like T-shirts, man. If you want what you get it. Yo, look, I used to think there was no guns in Canada until I went out there. It's just the price of a gun in Canada costs more than the price of a gun in New York. To get it to Canada, that shit might cost you $10,000, $5,000. You know what? So the price go up for the guns, but the guns is everywhere.

Them shit's like T. Hey, come on, bro. You see them kids in Philly, man. Yeah. The kids in Chicago. Come on. I heard a man say with the shooting in Brooklyn, a dude got shot so many times when they lift him up,

it looked like there was no more blood in his body. Like I said, back in the days, a nigga get shot five times, eight times, survive. Yeah. You don't got a three, you got a nine point, a nine point with regular bullet. You put a seven millimeter. Now my, they get hit with Army,

with stuff made for the military. Niggas got military shit out. Yeah, 308, 22, three. Now, the reason how we finish is, how do you, how does it get to the street? How does a 16 year old kid got a nine with a cop killers in it with a switch on the back?

They should, man, they got they're carrying guns that they used to hunt elephants and lions. That's why, that's why I say that to me, when I got out the street, I learned that this shit is all the business. Jail is a business. Rich, buying a jail. Motherfucker got to sit there due to jail, right?

So, people put their self in jail. the technology he got now. Like, let's talk about an indictment. What is an indictment? You sit there and you let a person do crimes. Well, lock him up for the first shooting. Nah, let him get more shooting.

Right. Let's get more shooting. More shooting. Because you need more time on it. Give him 80 years. Give him 100 years. Being in court, like, yo, he got 112 months in the feds. You know, what the fuck is that?

Natural life. Yeah. You put a hit out on somebody. Like, when I did my little time in the feds, I read the Fed lines, Fed guidelines. And that was like, damn. This is in there selling the feds, fake bricks. It might not even be real work. It might be sugar.

And you're still getting charged for them bricks. Yeah. So you came out of bed instead of the real stuff. If you call a hit you, I want to get this killed, man. I get a motherfucker from, from L.A. to kill a nigga in New York. Oh, that's natural life. Then with the cameras, you got the license plate cameras now. Speed cameras.

So for any criminal, you do a crime, you're going to get caught. Then you got your phone. Mm-hmm. You go do a hit. That's the worst thing, yeah. You see it all the time. Motherfucker, go do a hit. I wasn't there.

You know what I mean? Niggas I know locked up. Y'all wasn't there. And that thing ping. Let's just go to his AT&T. Bro, that thing ping. It's a lose-lose situation. It is.

Facil recognition. I'll be talking to Lisa Evans. I don't know if you know it from Fox Foward, but that's a friend of mine. And she tells me the technologies. that police have. Like, yo, yeah, they got, they'll take cameras off the ATM.

They got facial recognition. They got DNA off the clothes now. You're going to get caught, bro. You mentioned in 2023 that Toral Lane's would be a target. And lo and behold, why was he not, why was he not, why was he in G-pop?

Well, when you look at it, man, with street credibility, people respect you more. Like me being Tony A-on was in general population on the island, it was more respect because man damn damn that hmm damn that respect yeah that's it was stupid it was stupid on my part i ain't gonna lie but when you in pc they look at it like oh yo you in there with punks dudes pedophiles you know you ain't a real one so i don't want to be in pc it's less movement

you might not can't get your weed you know on the allen you on pc you got police walking with you so it's really no comfortability and then really it's a status thing because let's keep it real If he wouldn't be in PC, you wouldn't listen to his music. The kids ain't. They want it to be real. So to be hard, you're going to be in there and almost lose your life. Yeah, it was a dumb thing, general population. But it's a dumb thing.

But, you know, he should have been secluded because he's a star, and you're the biggest target. Any rapper go to jail, you're the target. You'll make a name. Yeah. That's just like with anybody, like a serial killer we saw with Jeffrey Dahmer. And we see they, you can't put you in G-pop. somebody gonna make a name up you. Yeah, and it's terrible what happened to him.

And, you know, he should have been more secluded. Even my time on the island, when they started to know who I was, they didn't want to, they were supposed to be so cool hits on me, you know what I'm saying? But they didn't, they, I was leaving, so they was like, all right, we ain't gonna put them at PC. But they'll forcefully put you in there. But like, Tori, they probably wanted to put them in there, and he probably was like, nah, I don't wanna do that. But that's the life we live.

They want you to be what your music is, you know, that's just the life we live. And it's a point of ignorance, but I can't say, you know, I was once ignorant. You know, we was like the first rapper showing guns on mixtapes. Right. And so I can't say, you know, I ain't have my part in some of this shit. But, you know, the whole thing is how you make it better. Right. I'd rather see a motherfucker get on than be on the block and shoot something.

Because with New York rappers, we just got bad luck. We always get indicted or get killed before we get on. Right. Cast Nova. Pop, smoke. The list go on and on. I ever get killed or get indicted. I had a time.

Did you see Blueface's new tattoo? Yeah, all of his face, blue face? Yeah, he's tatted up. You getting the tats while you were in? Nah. I think that tattoo is an L.A. thing more. Like them L.A. niggas put a tattoo on their forehead, New York. We think it really wasn't.

That's my first time seeing the tattoo on the neck head. I always tell a story about Shook Night. We ran into the, I think it was 118th Street. Right. And that's the first time I seen like a, with a full-blown tattoo. blown tattoo on his forehead. New York niggas really don't do that shit

right on their face like that when did it was probably before you but when do we start when do we start glorifying prison culture when would that okay when would that a badge of honor man it's a sad thing

but I think it was just it's just been from the from the 80s to on it's like graduate school and be like, yo, fuck him. And then a man come from jail. And we just, it's just like we always trained to have something for him.

Yeah. Yo, send him 10,000. Yo, yo, give him these sneakers. Yo, get him a chain. So it was like, from the beginning of time, like from the 80s, just that was the thing to do every time somebody came home. And I'm not saying anybody can't make mistakes.

You know what I'm saying? But I feel like a that graduated high school or college, he should get glorified too. Yes. You know, he should have a bag waiting for him. them too when he graduated. Not just the that came from jail. Uh-huh. You know? Yeah. But

it do come a trend, though. You're right. We do glorify jail. We do. And it's a f***ed up thing. Because people, you know, when you really, really sit back and think about it because jail, anybody who's in jail really don't even want to be in there. No.

All the people is doing life, natural life. Man, I don't want to be in here. They would train with the person that's on the outside, and it seemed like the person on the outside trying to do everything they can to on the inside. Right. Because usually when you see like the dudes that do long bids and come home, they come home, find the lady, relax. They don't never want to go to jail again. They're 20, 15. But the dudes that do like short bids, 5, 5, 5, 2, 2, 2, they always go back to jail. I don't know why it's like that. But I really learn their lesson when they do that long.

They do that long stretch. Mm-hmm. No niggas like that. They're 15. They're doing the right thing. They work nonprofits. they work out and got their lady and just chill they out the way i heard fat joe say yesterday he felt not well he didn't say it yesterday but i heard it yesterday that he felt guilty and joins gunna music because gunner was labeled you know i mean i look at like this what gunna man gonna make dope music he's one of the dopest to me he's at any number one now yeah he's like number one think he did like 80 000 i look at it like this right people take please right

right right it just looked funny because it was on camera we don't know what his lawyer told him right my lawyer doesn't tell me to take pleas before you know I'm saying so you if that's just copping out like y'all I don't want to go to travel take this plea right so with the plea he didn't know his lawyer his lawyer just say yo his lawyer probably came to sell you I'm gonna get you out today just take this plea okay bet you know I'm saying so when he took the plea his lawyer's saying the DA is saying yo is this was a gang they already felt in their mind that there was a gang he said

Yeah, he probably didn't know all that was going to happen. He was like, yeah, I want to get out of here. Right. I got to make my money, make this. At the end of the day, Thugger took a plea too. Right. Is a thugger a rat for that? Right.

The only one that didn't take a plea was one of them, right? Right. Everybody else took a plea. It's just that he did it before Thugger, so it looked funny to the public. And then if that plea wasn't on camera, niggas wouldn't be sad. Do you think Thug ain't gonna ever reconcile? I don't know. It would be dope for hip hop.

But right now, I think Gunner's, you know, he just dropped his last, what, two albums. So he's out there deal, and he's doing perfectly fine by himself. Is Thugger a legend for Atlanta? Yes. So is Gunner, though. Right. But, you know, I think people are quick to judge, and so the only one that could judge you is God. Right.

So when you look at all the shit, I don't fuck with him. I don't fuck with him. His music is still dope. You can't deny dope music. I don't give a fuck if you feel like a asshole, a niggas this way, or a nigga is a nerd. If you drop dope music, nothing defies that. Dope music is dope music. I'm not here to Judge Gunner.

I'm here to listen to his music. If you drop some dope music, I'm going to listen to it. As well as little baby, as well as future. I listen to all them niggers. You know what I'm saying? But dope music is dope music, bro. If you could give some advice to look dirt, what would you tell him? I would just tell him to hold his head.

It's tough when you, you know, facing federal charges. your head and listen to your lawyer, it's easy to get in trouble and it's hard to get out. It is. It is down there. Wise man once told me that. It's easy to get in trouble. It's hard to get it out. And as rappers, we being watched.

Let's not act like we ain't being. You got millions of dollars. You got enough money to do whatever. And now Yale, they're taking your, they're taking your lyrics and say, okay, that, that's real. Because they tried to use Thuggers' lyrics. They try to use Gunther's lyrics and say, see, he's telling you what he did. It's something that meant maybe some they do put. They're using social media as the feds

and everybody's using social media as the outlet. Like a motherfucker put up a gun and the feds will go get the serial number and lock him up. That gun is stolen. They could freeze on the serial number, do it. They're using social media and links now because in their eyes we're making it too easy.

My motherfucker, y'all just killed this nigga. They're going to use that. He just said he shot him the way the murder was. And that wasn't that wasn't publicized You know he just said he shot him this amount of times He just put that in the song Of course they're going to use that Right

The DA going to play that shit in court When when did it become cool To start flossing your tool Guys used to keep that thing took Not everybody want to You're right, you're right Everybody wanted to do it We used to have them on the covers

We, you know, but I see for a photo, for a photo op, okay, I get that. But these guys on social media waving that thing around like, I think the traditional suburban kid that doesn't live that life that wakes up to lobster, you know, like I have some of my friends in Long Island and be like, yeah, my kids are arguing up a lobster. You know, I think the entertainment for them is the up a side of a life that they would never live, you know, and I feel the kids to the point is like, I don't give a I got ops, this is my life. I have a make, because look how many artists.

Like Bloodhound Little Jeff, you know about. Dope artist, he was about to be like the next King Vaughn. He's gone. Q50, another artist, that's with him. He just called, just got shout up in St. Louis. Shit is real. St. Louis is cool, but I'm not going sightseeing around that motherfucker. People laying folk down.

Yeah, I'm not. L.A. is cool, but I'm not going sightseeing around that motherfucker. L.A., you can go to Tau, And a waiter could be crib or Mexican game. You know, Shannon in here, he got some jewelry on. Niggas got to drop on you while you eating. Damn. Because that was definitely a thing because they was running the, during COVID,

you know, people you had to be outside. People run up on taking your AP, taking your paddock. They follow your home. Yeah. Lay you down. Niggas robbed, what's the kid, Jack Doherty? They robbed him on Rodeo with his security. These niggas don't care.

Nah. That's why I don't care The way of this shit They did get the drop on And look it ain't safe nowhere No Yeah you know If they want to get you

They're gonna come in you It ain't safe nowhere That's why I say the hardest thing About being a celebrity Or being You know In some kind of limelight It's a dangerous job

It's very dangerous To me Tell about that coniac Pye Anette Cognac is fire You gotta give me a bottle I got you You gotta get your address

You need some more of that But it's crazy, Shade, man. Damn. You know, because you know back in the, you know, Roldale. You're like, I didn't get right. Oh, man, that was, man, I remember the first time I went to Radeo and then seeing all these shops, things that you, I remember the first time I ever saw Radell. Yeah. Was lifestyle of the rich and famous.

Yeah, yeah. Rob and Litch. Rob and Litch. Right. The lifestyle of the rich and famous. And I'm, so I'm seeing it. And now I'm on Riddell Drive. And I'm seeing like, like, man.

Watching and Tiffany and this And I remember the I forget the guy's name But he had a yellow He had a yellow I think it was a Rose Royce at the time I think it was a Bentley now But in Bejohn

And it's right out front And I'm, me and my brother We were walking down I'm like man, I'm on Radeo Drive And don't nobody got to care The world Women got their purse Twirling around the head

They ain't worried about nothing You ain't worried about nothing That's when Cali was fun Now Women on Radee on Drive I got their person like this here. I'm like, what they are? Even Atlanta.

Atlanta, I remember us going to ludicrous day. Craziest thing in the world I see. I loved Atlanta. I said, man, Atlanta. I wanted to move to him. I said, man, this is a play. Beautiful women over where, everywhere. The vibe was cool.

Not a worry in the world. Now you go to Atlanta, go see my men. He's like, yo, load the whole truck up, nigger. Can't even stop at the gas station. No, no. That's the most. The most dangerous place Atlanta, yo

Atlanta is the certain I've never seen a place where you hear me say yeah man the kids bought a U-Haul and they rammed in the gun store What? You know, you're in the state They ran up in the gun store

I took all the guns Man listen, it's too crazy It's getting crazier It's getting crazier This concludes the first half of my conversation Part 2 is also posted And you can access it to whichever podcast platform, you just

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