Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Warren G Part 2

Episode Date: October 22, 2025

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Listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you for coming back. Part 2 is underway. You mentioned you like Austin, but obviously Memphis is barbecue, Kansas,

barbecue you have North Carolina if you had to if you had to say what city would you you say Austin Memphis North well North Carolina is not a city it's a state but what what do what places you think if I said okay give me your Mount Rushmore barbecue barbecue places off Austin Memphis and I I think it was, what was that, South Carolina. South Carolina got some good barbecue? Yeah, yeah. They got some good barbecue.

Met a lot of good pit masters from out there as well. Do they share secrets? Some. Just a little, they tell you, you know, some to give you some secrets and stuff. I just, I, whatever people want to know, I can tell them. Right. You know, what you want to know, I'll tell you. Is a situation like when you taste barbecue, you try to figure out what they've done to it?

Like, you know, how long, you know, man, I think they probably let this cook like 10, 12 hours. They probably did this, they probably brined it, they probably had this, you know, such and such. I just like to taste it to see if it's better than mine. But I didn't have some good barbecue, I'm not going to lie. Really good barbecue. And I'm like, I've got to step my game up here, but I still, I'm right there with them. I actually did the national barbecue contest for the first time in July and June. and I won

I won fifth and a brisket and six in chicken Wow First time That was a win for me Yeah So now you hook

Now you hook Yeah and I went up against Like popular guys Like it was real pit Like I'm a pit master But it was like Some of the guys

I look up to In the contest And I beat some of them And I was like Oh my God I can't believe I beat this person mm-hmm and a lot of they showed me a lot of love too when you when you uh you entered this

contest you probably didn't have a whole lot of expectations like man I'm going to get some of the the greatest pit masters in the world mm-hmm I've only been doing this for a small amount of time you know to the level that you're doing it now obviously you're you both beat in it now you you hook you really you really really hooked um did that make you like man you know what you're gonna open a restaurant what are you what are you gonna do with there that's that's where I'm headed to open open right now I'm online working on getting in the stores from the from once I'm in the stores and working on the get brick and mortar

yep you get to get the brick and mortar establish one here California, and Vegas, let people get to taste in some good food. Did your mom allow you? Because that's a, see, like, I remember growing up, that's got to be a Midwest or something. Because Southern grandmas ain't letting everybody in the kitchen all kind of high. I mean, hey, you come in here and get a glass, get some water or something, but mainly most time or not, hey, go to that, go to that spicket outside and get you some water, get out of this kitchen.

Yeah. So you say your dad was allowed, you know, you're watching him. Did he allow you to participate? Not really. If I had to go get that from me, go get this. Right, right. Other than that, no, but I just used to. You just watch?

Yeah, yeah, I used to watch and just, you know, everybody that used to just, you know, be like having fun. I'm like, oh, this is great. Because everybody's coming over, all the family. Yeah. You got your cousins, your aunt. All the kids get an opportunity to play together and do all that other stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And it stuck with me, man.

Do you cook anything other than the barbecue? Yeah. Yeah, I cook all. I mean, I do crab boils, salmon. I do salmon. I do crab oils. I do anything, you know, I, I, I, anything, I, I, I, I, I, I, I should have made you some of my black eyed peas, man. Oh, you got black eyed pees? What? The, my black eye, I should have made some, I'm, I'm gonna make some black eye piece. I'm gonna do something when you get, a vent or something where you could taste the black eyed peas. I do it. When you put a bacon, you put a hamper, what you put in your black eyed? Can't tell nobody, shan. You can't, you can't cook no black eye peas, you ain't got no meat in them now.

It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's some meat in them, but. It's a twist that I have to it that nobody is doing. I probably put turkey necks or something, man. I do, I do have turkey necks in it. That's definitely there. Yeah, I know it. Yeah. I got a, it's a nice.

You like breakfast? You cook breakfast food? You like breakfast? You're a breakfast guy? I cook breakfast. It's the basic breakfast. you know, bacon eggs and... Bacon egg, grits.

You know, you grits. I see, I mean, you're in the South there. You're in ATL now. You've got to have grits. No cream of wheat. I mean, we do oatmeal, but mainly, or bainly grits. I've been eating grits like crazy. I'm like, there's grits everywhere.

Every menu is grits everywhere. Yeah, you ain't get no cream of wheat. So if you come there to the size, you ain't get no cream of wheat. Yeah. And I've had a lot of shrimp and grits. Shrimp and grits. Shrimp and grits. Shrimp and grits.

Yep, yep, yep. Yes, indeed. And everywhere I've been, it's been some good, some good, some really good food, man. So this is called sniffing griffins, Warren G. Productions, original poultry and seafood barbecue rub. Yes, indeed. And this is the, that you like goes with some of everything. Yeah, the all purpose. All purpose.

Oh, yeah. But none of them have it. I mean, some got it, some, which one got a little kick? We bring heat, which is this right here, this sauce. It's not a major kick, it just, it's a creep up. Yeah. It's not too overwhelming where you like, oh, oh, it's just a little bit of a spiciness.

And it don't even, it ain't like one of them last lungs either. Right. It's just in and out, but it's people like that extra little lightweight kick. And it ain't, it's not a super kick, but it's a great, great, it's even, it's right there to where it's not too much of this or too less of that. How often would you say you cook? You cook daily, you cook, you know, a special occasion, once a week, a couple times a week. I barbecue three to four times a week.

Damn! Yeah. You're around? Yeah, when I'm at home, you know, I tell my wife, she'll be like, well, I want to do this. I said, let me cook it on the grill. whatever let me cook it on the grill I love doing it

I love doing it yeah so your house is normally busy because you cook it like that because people are always over there yeah yeah I just I just cooked for a couple of my buddies just for the fight

yeah yeah that was a fight yes indeed that fight wasn't that close bud beat the brakes off Canello yeah he did I don't know how they get 115, 113. I don't know what fight they were watching.

Crazy. Did you see the fight the first fight between the dude, Adams and I think Martinez, the black dude and the Mexican dude, Martinez? Oh, yeah, and Billy.

Oh, they were throwing the draw, the split draw, yeah. Oh, they were throwing leather. Wow. Yes, yes, yes, yes. That right there, when they mentioned them, on again? Yeah, I'm for that. That's going to be a dude. Yeah,

because a Beaumack, Buzz Traynor, Train Martinez. Yes, yes, yes, yes. They were slinging them. I was like, wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That damn there was the fight of the years. Yeah, they definitely threw a leather. I was surprised, I was like, man.

I mean, both got hit with some shots, but boy and sat down on his boy, he would throw it. I mean, pow, pow, I'm like, ooh. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, he was throwing some leather. I was like, damn, they both gonna have brain damage. Shit, their motherfuckers getting hard.

But damn, Warren, you cooking three, four times a week year-round? Yeah. When I'm not... Well, you're not traveling, when you're not doing, you know, your music and stuff. I come straight home and cook. I'll just like to do it. Damn. Yeah.

I mean, I take breaks. I do a little... But I'm saying, but let me ask you a question. When you were, let's just say you were in your mid, 20s, 30s. Were you cooking like, when you still? No, I wasn't doing it like that. I just would cook wherever we was, because we're moving so much, moving around. Right.

Whenever we had time or I know we was there for a little bit, boom. Right. Instead of going out and eat, spend all that money, you just buy the stuff and just go. All the tours that we've been on, I didn't cook that all of them. Really? All the tours, we didn't been on me, snooping, with. just did a tour about a year and a half two years ago I cooked every day on that to Snoop wanted me to be his cook on the pit master on the tour I said Snoop I

can't do that I'm already performing here and I'm performing with you I can't cook all this goddamn food but he was he really wanted me to cook no I was like I will but I can't do it like you want me to do it like you want me to do but I do it here here and there here here here here yeah not every day for you because we we we we're on every day five all during the week even though I like doing it but I can't do it doing it and perform or perform and cook performance because barbecue took a long time man you got watch it yeah you First of all, you got to prepare it.

Hell, it takes a couple of hours just to get it prepared. Yeah, yeah. Do all that brining? Yeah. Yeah, I brine my turkeys too. Mm-hmm. I let them sit for like almost three, two, about two and a half days. I know.

Mm-hmm. You cook turkey wings, turkey legs, what you, you, the whole turkey legs, turkey wings, all of them. I know. I should have brought some turkey wings. Boom, you did that, everything would have just said right off the bone. Out the bone? Off the bone. You could collard greens too?

Greens too. Mm-hmm. Green bean, yeah. What did you put in your collard green? You put... Are you turkey necks? Turkey leg. Yeah.

I have the butcher cut the turkey leg in half. Uh-huh. When I put it in there and then, I make, I do like a turkey neck. do like a damn they want to say a kind of not a rule but like a nice base yeah then build it up and build all my stuff off from my from my base all the way up you don't put you don't put pigtail when I grew up we put pigtails in in collard greens I think maybe everybody's gonna kind of graduate I ain't did that one that doesn't pick you up man I ain't did that that

No, I ain't, I ain't dead that one, but no, yeah. You mentioned your parents got divorced when you were younger. Did that impact you in any way? No, I didn't impact me because I, she made, my mother made sure that I was still around my dad. She would, he would come pick me up on the weekends, and I would spend time with him. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. So she never... She never tried to keep you away from him.

Never. Never said anything bad about him? No, she didn't talk bad about him or nothing. But she did send me to him like, go move with your daddy. I'm like, shit. All right. Well, it was all good. I still was back down right around.

Yeah, because you mentioned you were the only boy. You had three sisters. Yep. You're the oldest, or where did you fall into pecking order? I'm the third oldest. Okay. Yeah, I'm the third oldest. I got a sister under me.

It's my sister, Missy, Me, and Tracy and Felicia. Okay, so you're the knee baby. Yeah. Yes, indeed. Oh, yeah. So how was it, I mean, with your sister? Were they protected? It was gangsters.

I ain't going to lie. Yeah, they was, they was, they was, they was, they was, they was, they was, they was, uh, like my sister Felicia, my older sister, she had hands. Right. So she, she was fighting, geez, like real, she's fighting dudes. She's putting hands on, putting paws on, putting paws. Wow. Yeah, she, she, she was, uh, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was a,

a gangster, you know. I read you said, your mom said that she sent you with your dad because she said you needed a man in your life. Or you think that was the reason why she did it? Or you just, well, you were bad, you weren't. I wasn't a bad, I wasn't bad. I wasn't, you know, I mean, I was just doing the things that, you know, that 13, 40,

don't rocks, ding-dong ditching. fighting a little bit but she just you know and then but the one thing I used to do I would uh I wouldn't I didn't like like anybody she was with oh so good with your dad yeah he was he was dead yeah so she used to tell me like around them she's like you the man of the house she would tell me that's Yeah, like you, the man of the house, don't, even though I got a boyfriend or whatever, you the man of this house. She used to always tell me that. You're like, okay.

Yeah. Well, since I'm the man in the house, you get out. I don't like you. You heard what she said? I'm the man to the house. Get to step in. I was like, uh, yeah, but. Did you ever think the situation that your mom and dad would get back together?

Did you hope they would get back together? Uh, I hope, but it. never happened my dad had moved on my mother moved on and actually my mother she had it had a had a guy that they was gonna get married his name was Tommy Cotton Tommy was cool yeah he was a cool cat he probably was the only guy that I that you rock with yeah he was cool I ain't gonna lie he was cool yeah and then my dad Mary Werner And Werner was, yeah, Werner was really good to me.

And actually she showed me a lot, raised me as well. You know, she raised me as well, very, you know, her and my mother both was, they both made me, you know, was raised me as a young man and along with my dad. And it was, it was. When you met Andre, government name, goes by Dr. Drave, everybody know him asked. What were your first thoughts?

How were you, when you guys met? I think I was about maybe, I had maybe about 11, 12, somewhere around there. So he was, what, about 15? Probably so, he, you know, yeah, but I was 11. Yeah, yeah, and, and one. I mean, we automatically...

Y'all hit it off. Did y'all hit it off? Did y'all hit it off? Was there, like, any car... Nothing. No, no, they took me in, just took me right in. And, actually, they had me fighting and had me fighting. I used to box, like, a lot of the neighborhood kids right there in our neighborhood. And so they had me fighting, like, the guys my age. We would have Battle of the Blocks.

And then that's what we were, you know, get in the gloves. I used to win a lot of them, you know. My competition was, one of my buddies, his name was Stank. He had hands. We was, they called me kibbles and vits back then. Because I, you know, kibbles and bits, kibbles get him. And we went from kibbles to Sir Koo, which actually is the name that, actually that's the name I'm, that's going to be the title of,

of the new project that I have come as called Sir Coo. And that name was given to me, you know, by, you know, between my sisters and Andre, now I don't know which one of them came up with, but they started calling me Sir Coo. Yeah, and that's that name. I'm, like, bringing it back. Yeah, bringing it back for that project.

So how are the sleeping arrangements? So was it like, okay, the boys had a room? Because did Andre have sisters? Yeah, Shemika. Okay. So obviously, so obviously she had her own room. Your mom and your mom and father had their room, and then all the boys slept in one room?

Yeah, we slept in one room. It was two beds. So I had to sleep in the bed either I sleep in the bed with Andre or I was sleeping in the bed with Tyree. I was young. Or I sleep on the floor. Or wanted some, you know, it would be. But Drey was on the move a lot, so he wouldn't, he would be coming in super late, you know,

because he would be on the move, bouncing back and forth. Hey, we all slept. You made it work. Yeah, yeah. How was it having a famous brother? Because fairly early on, in his late teenage early 20s, he became Dr. Drey. Yeah. I mean, it was cool.

cool I was in junior high school and I was just you know like I looked up to him so much I asked him could I wear his jacket there's a world-class record crew jacket one time he let me wear it and a swatch watch and he let me wear that shit I was the man in school because I had the NW the purple not NW with the world-class record crew a purple jacket with the little record thing on it and he has swatch watches he let me wear a swatch watch and uh

I was the man everybody was like damn he got on the NWA I mean a world class record crew jacket it was amazing you know really cool and everybody was just like damn they thought I was famous

and then obviously he joins NWA it's easy it's Drey It's Q, it's Wren, with DOC. Above the law as well. Yeah.

Laylaw, Code 187, KMG and Golmack, Total Chaos. When they formed NWA, they told you what the NWA stood for. Did you have any idea they transformed? They're the original gangster rap. They're the OGs. Did you know? They were going to become what they became? I knew it because they was already bubbling in the neighborhood off of just mixtapes.

They was bubbling at the Rhodium Swap Meet off of mixtakes, doing mixtapes around the neighborhood. That's actually, Boys in the Hood was pretty much like a, like a, that's a mixtape, the song. Right. That just went circulating, and then it blew up from the Rhodium Swap Meat to the neighborhood. to it turned into a first a single they always they they bubbled before you know before the NWA they was always just you making noise right you know yeah yeah so I knew they was gonna be something you got an opportunity to see them see it grow from the very beginning you saw the infancy you saw the seed stayed and then you see

plant and you see the finished product yeah what was it what was it like being around easy what was it like being around Q what was it like being around Renn and those other guys uh crazy a lot of fun a lot of a lot of shit talking a lot of beautiful women a lot of just everything They were, and I used to just be the young pup, just around everybody. Right. And just like them talking shit. And I actually, on the For Life album, I did 1-900 to Compton Skit where they had me.

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Listen to The Bright Side on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Come in there and act like I was getting arrested in the county jail. And that was really one of the, that was a really popular skit on that album. I think I was like, I think I was about maybe like 16, about 17 years old.

When I did that skit, yeah, that was niggas for a, 17 or 18, it was for life. 1,900 to comp, and people probably listen to that now like, that was you? Like, yeah, that was me. You know, and so it was that type of stuff going on, a lot of fun. Just a lot of shit talking, a lot of, a lot of gangster shit. It was, it was exciting. You mentioned earlier, and we touched on this briefly, about Drey and your music. Do you think one of the things that he wasn't as supportive as you thought he should have been,

maybe he didn't think you was taking it serious enough, or he didn't think you was as serious as you needed to be, or it wasn't going to go? What do you think the reasons were? Or he felt that, you know what, people are going to say he just got on because of me. Let him go figure it out on his own. Let him blow up. And if he blows up over there, they can't say Drey gave him a hand out. I wanted to be different.

You know, he taught me a lot of stuff, but I just wanted to do my music different. I wanted to do more of it because like it was the music they was doing is like super hardcore. Yeah. I wanted to do. I still could do that, but I wanted to do this to where it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, a good feel to it like a feel good like a like like with some of the records that's on that was on the chronic like some of those ideas i had brought some of those ideas in there and uh the ones that that i was involved in it was more like a feel good or it had a message to it you know like the the skit like the d's nuts that was a whole i told dray turned the mic went in there jumped on the phone

and called one of my home girls just having a normal conversation and then I ended it with you know, did what's your name them get at you? And she was like, ooh, dey's nice. So I told I told them we did that right there.

Just even like the skit from the Mac you know, that was a record. I bought a whole black exploitation. Well, I went to a company, a record store, and brought a whole like maybe two or three crates of a black

exploitation movies. And brought all of those back. And we dug through those albums and we would find skits like dolomite. We used a lot of dolomite. We pulled that out of there. A lot of the records that was used was pulled out of these crates. Like, Let Me Ride was a, it was a dub record that I bought from, so your store used to sell, like, dub records, they used to sell, like, sample, different samples and stuff like that. So I got that record, and that's where the Let Me Ride idea came from the

Tets, Tets, Tets, Tettoo. Let me, Ross, and Drey, listen to this shit. And he listened to it. He's like, that shit is dope. And Drey is such a genius and dope producer. He took that shit and put it together outside of the idea that I brought. It was like he put it together and made it come to life. And that's a lot of records.

You know, I used to push a bunch of ideas to him, and he would take him and do it, you know, little ghetto boy, you know, that was one of the records that, that, that, that, another record that, that he had, that I did that he, he took it and changed it over, I had the different, my drums was a little different, but I was like, shit, go ahead, just like, you know, because I'm, my, my whole mentality is if you win, we all going to win. Right. So we invested everything we had in us to make Dre a superstar, period. And that was along with him as the producer, we just, that's what our, that's what our mindset was. That's what our goals was to make him a superstar. So we took everything that we had and invested in him. You learned a valuable lesson. about working on the chronic, because like you said,

you brought some ideas and probably said, man, I wish I could have got me a couple of those credits, a couple of little publishing on that thing. It would have been real nice. I wish I would, say, pretty. I had a business mind, but I didn't know about the publishing. I didn't know about it, like, off top. But yeah, I did.

I wish I would have got, you know, I wish, you know, it would have been more of like, okay, let's get his dude some credit because he did put in a lot of work. None of that was there. None of that was done. But, you know, like I said, our goal was to put all we got in to helping Dre become a monster. Yeah. A huge to blow him up, you know, because that's what we looked up to.

So we're like, and he was away from NWA, he was away from EasyNM. He was like, you know. And that was the time that he had no, he hadn't, because he had. He didn't leave Shug until the late 90s. Yeah, this was before all of that. Yeah, he was still at death, he was at death row. Well, no, it was, he wasn't with nobody. Well, it wasn't, death row wasn't even formed yet.

Right. Future Shock. Okay. It was called Future Shock first. That, you know, that's, then it turned in the death row. Yeah. Because basically when Tupac got out, what, 96, 95, 95, 95, like 95, like the summer of 95, somewhere around there.

And then he ended up, like, hey, giving the entire death row to Shug. Uh-huh. And then started the aftermath. Was that how aftermath started? Yeah, that was aftermath. Charge it to the game. Like, he just didn't want to be involved with the way it was moving. The way they were doing business.

Yeah, and the way it was moving, he didn't want to be involved because, you know, it was just couldn't move around. He couldn't go nowhere because it was like, oh, that's one of them deafness. throw, you know, and they probably whoop somebody ass or done something, you know, you know, I don't know something might have happened and then, okay, you all just... They got you isolated. You don't even know, you blind.

Right. And, uh... I mean, it's take... So he just got tired of and just wanted to, you know, get away from all of that, so he bounced. You got to be forward-thinking. He didn't tell me he bounced. But that's the thing, don't think about it.

I mean, he, he, you know. really he really created that and to say man you know what y'all can have that i'm out because he knew what he could do you know he knew he was that he's that talent he knew what he could do and he had the machine behind him that followed you know jimmy went with him that was the machine so he can redo this all he could do this all over again you still got all of us if you need us to help with anything and the chronic the second chronic came, you know, boom, he still, but that was all him on his whole, a new, new breed, new company. And that, that album was now, I didn't have nothing to do with that one.

Dope. Yes, indeed. What if it like seeing someone that you actually grew up with, that you actually know, that you could actually touch, be a billionaire? I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, uh, I'd be bragging my hands up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean. I mean, my brother was good at football, but let him have a bit of a billionaire. Yeah.

It, uh, I mean, it, it was just, I wasn't even, I, I don't be tripping, and I was just like. He's just your brother. Yeah, you know, I ain't never really just like. Because it's hard, it's hard, it's hard to real, it's, because I get a prime example. number one. Well, now let me, now, I say this. The shit took me on a vacation with him. I ain't going to lie. We had our own private jet. Everything. We went out to the islands and like some shit way out in the deep out there. Like the Maldives, Bali?

Not that far. What was it? Mystique. Okay. It was a spot called Misty. It's a cold. spot. We went out there and he had that shit laid out. We had our own mansion. I was like, this is rich. We on our own private jet. We flew to the, when we got to the airport, we jumped on another little bitty plane where the windows was open. And we flew here. And when we got there, golf carts picked us up. And they said, Mr. Griffin, and I jumped on.

the court, we're taking you to your quarters. I'm like, my quarters. You should remember, we went to our own mansion. I'm like, this is bawling. And then he had a, he had like, it was a call thing where everybody got, we all got called, okay, everybody meet up at the main mansion at this time. So we're like, all right, boom. So the courts out there, they pick us up, they drive us over there. And we drove in that motherfucker and that shit was like

coming to America with like the curtains and shit swinging like the it was a beautiful matching big ass matching and the entry and like I said that shit was waving and then we walked through the house the house was huge

went out to the back a big ass like thing with the lights and shit around and a big old beautiful table with just food everywhere and just Beautiful music, even Guapolet was banged. Bum, bum, bum, boom, ah, boom,

I was like, oh, this nigga is. He's doing it big. Damn. We smoking cigars. I ain't even a cigar smoking. I'm up here like, but that's when I was like, this dude is, he's, he got it going on. Man, that's a, for me, when people would tell me, man, your brother as good as Jerry Rice,

your brother good as Michael Irving, your brother's good as this, I couldn't see anything but my brother. So I couldn't see him outside of that. And I think you, you're like, man, I grew up with him. Yeah, I understand he, Dr. Dre. I understand he's this super producer. He's my brother. Yeah. Slept in the same bed.

I mean, we ate the same boy and the same dinner tape. we did all that. It's hard to see somebody that you grew up with outside of what you saw from that very point. Yeah, yeah. But then you're like, yeah, he's different. Yeah, he's not my problem, but he's different. He's definitely different because this year, this year is what you read about when you see these movies, you see this James Bond stuff, and they're on this island and the lady come up out in the water and James Bond. Is he standing on the, he's standing on the, he's He's dead on the thing with the... Yeah.

Yeah, it's different. Yeah. He's different. We different now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We different now.

Oh yeah. Yes indeed. You also, during that time, you were around Tupac. Uh-huh. Tupac was... Tupac was different. People were like, man, Tupac was living a lot, too. He might have been the first, like, rapper that became a movie star.

Now, we've seen, we've seen other guys. We've seen, who is that, meth do it? death do it. We've seen Buster Rhymes do it. Ice Cube has done it. Snoop has gone into that. So we see a lot of other guys. But Tupac was, you know, uh, uh, juice and poetic justice and all that. Excuse me, Jason Lyrick. What was, what was Tupac like? Cool. Like, that's a cool dude. Uh, he, uh, hyper. He was hyper. Uh, actually Tupac is One of the first dudes, him and M.C. Breed was the first couple of guys that gave me my first shot at production outside of the death row company. But he was a good dude, man. Just, you know, didn't, you know, he would tell you whatever he felt. He had tell you he wouldn't hold nothing back. And just a cool dude, you know. We, I had a, I got a story that, you know, I did, I done some music for him.

And I was hitting him like, Puck, I need to get my money, man. I didn't done all the, you know, done this music for you and da-da-da-da. He was like, I'm going to get you your money, da-da-da. But I'm like, all right, so it was still cool. so seeing him up at the comedy store um i talked up to him i was like pock i need to give my bread uh came right out the pocket like came out broke me off my money i was only charging $1,500 a beat back then right he came right out the pocket and broke me off my bread right in and there. And, you know, I felt kind of bad, like, because we're cool, you know, so I felt

kind of bad like having to ask him, like, man, I need my mother fucking money. And, uh, but we, we still was cool after that. But right after that, him and him and Tretcher got into a fight with some cats right at the comments, Tretcher, uh, he could, he was there. They got into a squabble, right after that but you know that was like a moment where I was like damn that's my guy but I got a I got a you know got to do business you got I got I got to get paid shit I got to get paid and but we were still we was cool after that everything and he always he always been a solid guy and I actually tried to get him out you know when he was on was on was

had that bell going, me and another one of my good friends, Richie Rich, we used to, he was from the bay up there where Park was at. We used to talk all the time, so he knew that me and Park was cool, him and Park was tight. And so I told him like, look, let me put up the money. I put some money up to get him out. And Shug beat me to the punch. Right. Wow. You know, but I had, I had cheese. million dollars cash though right yeah I was gonna put in the actually I don't think he might have he probably put a million but it wasn't a million dollars right it was it wasn't a million dollars it was it was less than that but um you know

he wrote the letters him and Rich was going back and forth and I told him just let me know what I could do and I was like I don't want nothing you know want nothing back but if I asked you to do a song or something let's do a song Other than that, I just don't want to see you in that position. So I was willing to put up some bread to get him out of there. And my guy, Rich, he witnessed that, you know, it was a few people, you know, out there saying that that that wasn't real. But, you know, well, Shill even said it wasn't real, but it's real. You know, Rich was his, that was his dog.

So, you know, but it is what it is. was before, look, he was a digital underground, he had a little part back, he was more of a dancer. Did you know he, when he got out, and he did all lives on me, the two discs, did you hear it before it came out? No. I wasn't nowhere around it. Did you know it was going to do this? No. I didn't, I didn't, I wasn't know nothing that was going on. But I ran into him at the House of Blues, and we hugged and everything. And this was around when he got out, we hugged everything. He was like, I'm going to work, one of us work.

So I was like, all right, it's all good. And what had happened? It was an incident that happened, a studio incident that happened. That's what led to me saying. He was like, let me come to this up the can and I was like, no, I'm not coming up there. You know, that. Look, because it was a little incident that happened up there where, you know, they had called me in. It was like, Warren, you know, Shug and I want to holl at you at the end of the, you in the back.

So I'm like, what do you want? Like, what he won't with me? Right. So I'm like, let me. So I said, I'm coming, man. So somebody else was like, man, shit, want to holler at you. So I was like, all right. So I'm like, man, let me go back here and see what's going on, man.

He probably wanted to do some business or something like that. And shit, I walked back in that motherfucker and then my motherfucker came out of the side doors and shit. Tripping. Tripping. Like, all ran up on me, grabbed me and shit. And I'm like, what the fuck? And it was all. You didn't know what it was about?

I know what it was about, but I didn't know that that, that, that, that, that, that, it was because Dre left. Right. And he, I hadn't, he didn't tell me. He didn't tell me, like, Warren, I'm going around that shit. Yeah, because if he had told you, you would have never went over there. Never. I wouldn't have never went, but it was just like, you know, I'm just like, damn, what, you know,

like, why y'all tripping on me? You know what I mean? But, uh, so it was. kind of it was like a one of another guy I know one of my home boys he kind of caused like a diversion he came in like why y'all tripping with war what's going on what's happening so when he was doing that I went just like that I got on the door and I hit that knob and boop slid right out the dough and when I walked through the door I seen people I knew in the kitchen I'm looking at him like these ns tripping and so walked through and I got to

the middle of the hallway and they came running out that motherfucker get that nigger blood i took off again i took off but this time i got out the door uh but they the i swear to god the whole whoever all the people that came running after they just fell it was like a domino like boom they fell in the hallway which that's the reason why i was able to get away so i got away and i jumped in my truck backed it up and I was like fuck y'all and took off who took off what do you think but my chain got snatched they snatched it snatched my chain so what what chain did you have I had a g-fonged chain oh and um so that way they started that doing that foolishness to start snatching so you might have been the first down you know chain no chain snatching that been going on

for a long time and I'm gonna admit it I ain't it was nothing I could do right I was in a position like where I can't do shit. If I pull out a gun and start to pull this, start blasting, I'm going to get killed by these other motherfuck with all these guns here. It was a no-win situation. So when my chain got snatched, I was kind of like, well, it's like. That little see another day. Yeah, what am I going to do?

Right. These three times my size. Had you not snuck out of the door, you thought they'd like, You think they would have been worse? Yeah. Yeah, it would have been ugly. Yeah. Because it was mad at you because you were the closest thing to Dre.

Pretty much. And so to get back at Dre, they're going to get you. That's the way I looked at it. And I didn't know. I'm like, I wish he would have told me that he was leaving. Shit, you know. But I charged it to the game, you know. Even, even, even, you know, even today, you know, every now and there, sugar, say some shit.

Just talk some shit. Why are you mad at you? I have no idea. He'll say some shit like, warn them, and set up two pockets, some crazy shit. Yeah. Stop it. You know, but I ain't, you know, like at the end of the day, it's, I didn't grown so much to where it's just like, you know, what, I don't have. You don't even listen to it.

I ain't got no hate towards him. None of that stuff. Any of those situations, I charged all that to the game. And it's just like, don't keep poking at me. You know, I don't say nothing about him. He'll say something here and there. And I'm just like, every now, I responded a couple times because it had pissed me off.

But it's just like I'm not going to keep entertaining that. I ain't got nothing against you out and moved on. I do my thing. I'm grown. now whatever happened back in the day whatever okay cool it is what it is so now I'm moving on but don't come don't keep poking on because I ain't with you right you know so leave me alone I did everything I speak on is facts and I never do no dirt on his name nobody nobody none of these guys never been a whistleblower never do no do no dirt on nobody none of that I just

always, you know, just me and me and I carry myself in a different way and out the way. Yeah. Yeah. Is it true that you told Snoop not to go to that Tyson Seldon fight? Yeah. Because I had, actually,

I had went to the Tyson Frank Bruno fight. I think that was April. And as a matter of fact, there was my first time being in Vegas and I was walking on the strip. Tupac and Snoopek. was in a Rose Royce together, Drop Top.

Wow. And I remember walking. I was walking down the thing, and I looked over there, and they both kind of like looked over there, they're like, man, what's up, Sharp? I was like, what's up, guy? You know, because it was like, it was like, I love you, man. Because I didn't expect, I didn't expect to see you. No, we love you, man.

And so I was like, damn. And I remember getting under the fall, I called, I called my sister, I called, called my homeboy. I said, man, you were never going to guess who I just saw rolling down the strip. They're like, who? I said, man, I saw two pocket snoop. And so that was the, that was the, uh, the Frank Bruno and Tyson fight. And then I think that September was when Tyson fought Bruce Seldon.

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Right. You don't never come hang with me no more. Come on, come on over here. I, I'm single. I was, well, I was, I was, I was in a beginning. relationship with my wife kind of in a very, very early stages, but I was still, like, by myself, I was still living by myself and all that stuff. So I had a gang of people come over. It was a couple girls came through, guys came through, barbecue, but he was, you know, he would

never come when I would invite him. Right. So I invited him. He was like, no, I think I'm going to Vegas, da-da-da-da-da. So he pretty much surprised me and came over. You know, he came So I look outside And he ended up in the Rose Royce A white one with the peanut butter All that Yeah, I was like damn I said let me drive that motherfucker

So he let me drive it I drove it around You know around the neighborhood a little bit Where I lived there It was inside gates but I was driving it around And stuff But he was just like I'm gonna hang with you

And I was like all right shit So it was all good We Barbecued had a good time and then that's when all the stuff started happening all this all kind of shit all kind of his phone ringing all kind of shit beeping and and um he had got the news like what happened down there he just immediately took off boom he shot straight out of there he's like i got to go i'm going to boom and he shot jumped in his car and was shot straight to vegas yeah and uh

When you had heard what happened, Tupac had gotten shot. Did you know it was a drive-by? Did you think he had gotten into a confrontation? Somebody had got the drop on him. What did you think had happened when you had heard Tupac had gotten shot? Or did they give you any details? I didn't get no details or nothing. I just heard he had got shot and was hoping that he was okay.

Right. You know what I mean? Because it's like, damn, okay, Puck got shot. He's going to be all right. Right. Yeah, because he, you know, from what they were saying, you know, he was in the hospital, he was getting some operations or whatever, but they weren't saying, like, you know, that he was going to die or anything.

Right. It was, that shit was whole, that shit was rough, you know, like, that was some serious shit. Like, that fucked everybody up. For sure. Yeah. Because, if I'm not mistaken, Tupac, was only 25. Yeah, he was young. Young.

Yeah. He hadn't even been out, maybe a year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And was gone. And that's what people don't realize. He didn't have the longevity that a lot of these rappers have. I mean, he didn't have a five-year, a 10-year, 15, 20-year career. Yeah.

As a solo artist, it might have been, what, a year, maybe two years, tops. Well, he had albums before that. He had records before that. Right. He had, Solda Story. He had a bunch of, he had albums, like, right before the Def Roe thing. And Def Roe picked him up, took him in. Yeah.

But he asked him, he was popping, you know, then as well. But what's the trip is that, that Me Against the World album, he pretty much, like, that was, like, 20-something years worth to work in one album. Like the things he, the direction he was staring at the guys our age in and the things about the kids. And what he talked about, dear mama and all, Brenda's got a baby. Yeah. This, I mean, like the story that, I mean, he was telling a story. Yeah, yeah. And it was like he was, he told the future because now a lot of this stuff happened and some of it still happened.

Like he said, epidemic. and diseases, what is the future? And look, we'd be having all these epidemics and diseases and shit like that. So you're looking at somebody, okay, he left digital underground probably in the early 90s. So he probably, you know, jumped on the scene

probably, what, 92, 93? Went away for, what, 16, 7, 18 months? He was still putting out records. He was putting out, it was through endoscopes there. People don't, I mean, so, so, so young. Yeah. I mean, he wasn't even in his,

prime no no and then all lives on me just came and it was just like two desks and it just like dray was on it it was just it was it was it was crazy yeah it was crazy i produced um how long will they mourn me uh definition of a thug and then i did i produced lot of kicking for him the uh definition of a thug was was his first like thug life uh song that i did me and him at echo sound and then how long will they morning? I've done that the same night at Echo Sound when we did Definition of a Thug

I was, that's when I once again I was I was solo I was out on my own and just wasn't I was still working and doing things but I wasn't like around at that time around anybody I was just at home

well at my sister apartment sleeping on the floor And I got that call, you know, I didn't know it was Pock, but because he called, but I didn't think it was him. It was like, well, Pock can't get ready to be called, but I'm like, man, who is this playing game? This ain't Pock. And he was like, this Pock. And then it's all, listen. I said, oh, shit, this is Tupac.

And he was like, you got some music. I was like, yeah. It's like, I made echo sound. So I grabbed my drum machine, grab my Crater Records. grab my bladder da-da-da-dao and jumped in my regal and shot straight up the echo sound walked in there and it was him and I went straight to work start popping this in the drum machine playing it yeah and we came up with a hit fast too he wrote that record in like 30 about 35 40 minutes definition of a thud after we talked we sat right there and talked with each other for

we talked for maybe like maybe an hour because he was asking me questions he was like he was interviewing right and so it's like he took some of the things that I told him he put that in that song that that he went in there and laid he laid it in like 35 40 minutes and knocked it down damn fast and then he got a call that one of his buddies that got shot. So he came in, he said, Warren, you got something for me, I want to do a song for my buddy that just got killed. So I dropped it. I actually did a flip, a record that I flipped already on another record and gave it to him. And then he did a song on it, and it worked on that, on his record. Wow. So that's how long we did more of me?

How long will they mourn me? I had a song called Super Soul Sis, which used the same sample, and how long will they mourn me was that same sample? I used the same sample on two different albums. Wow. And it worked on both of them. Tupac, he worked with Mike.

No, not Tupac, you did. So, I mean, to see, and every once in a while you hear Mike singing an acapella, and then you could hear his voice, you could understand. I can only imagine what Michael would be in the Internet era because people were fainting. People were going berserk. He sold 100 million albums. Ain't nobody selling 100 million nothing now.

Nowhere near it. So he was doing that. But to be in the studio with Mike, and to hear his natural voice yeah what was that like shit i almost fainted shit so you was one of the people that almost fantastic yeah uh bruce and rene were two guys he was working with uh they was his producers and they were fans of my music so they called me and they was like we want you to produce some records for michael and i was like

Hell no, y'all, y'all, Michael Jackson? They was like, yeah, Michael Jackson. I was like, oh, my God, I couldn't believe it. And they, like, he wants to meet you. And I was like, are you serious? They're like, he wants to meet you. So went up there. He was actually at record one, studio up in the valley.

got there went inside and walked in the room and it was just like like hey what's up man Michael and da-da-da-da like he wasn't it wasn't none of that some people said like hey this is Michael and I it wasn't none of that that's what I heard people say his normal voice was not like none of that he was like what's up man like you know what's up man like you know da-da-da-da-da like I'm like oh my God I'm about to lose it right now I'm about to I'm about to paint. I'm about to do everything. I'm about to just go crazy right now.

I couldn't believe it. And he said he loved my music, and that blew me away. Just for him to say that, I just, I ain't, I ain't, even right now, I ain't, I can't even explain how, how happy I was and how, how, how, I had anxiety so bad, just like wow this is this is this is Michael Jackson right here right now and I did some did the work you know I did some music for him he loved the music he recorded the songs

and I also had told him you know because he was kind of like at that time he had a little bit of it was a little bit of backlash like some bad press and I told him that what you do is don't Don't sit up there and be sad about it, do a song back at them, you know, for putting that bullshit out, the fake shit on you. You do a song back at him, you know, and that's what he did. It wasn't one of my tracks, I can't remember the song, but it was a, what song was that? It was where he was talking.

He was talking shit back to the press and back to everybody. What was the song? I can't get it off top. Having a brain for it. You're saying that, and a lot of people believe that the industry, because he had become so big,

he had become so popular, he had become so powerful, you hear about him wanting to buy this record label and this television company and they just couldn't have that because he had purchased the Beatles catalog plus he had his own catalog

so he had the two most popular catalog that were created yeah um I you know I don't I mean I can't

I can't see nobody like stopping somebody well will stop you know stopping somebody from getting involved and you know buying this or buying that if you got the money to get it then it is what it is right but I don't know I don't mean I just I just you know I think that you know he was just exhausted with all that was going on as far as like that that case he had that he was going through I think a lot A lot of that stuff was wearing tear on him, you know, and he just, just was, just war out, you know. And he had been Michael Jackson for so long.

Yeah. I mean, from the time he's probably six or seven years old, he couldn't go anywhere. Yeah. He couldn't do anything. He had a very lonely life. He had a life of isolation. Yeah. Because just like, he could, he could never do anything that a six or seven year old.

He couldn't do what a 13, 14 year old do. He couldn't do what a 25, 26 year old do. He couldn't do what a 30, 40 year old do. He could never, he could never do anything. any of that. None of it. And I think it was a lot of that wear and tear just like with all of that along with people trying to blame it for different things. It's like, you know, at the end of the day, it just war and tore on it. Yeah. Yeah. If it true, you turned down an opportunity to meet the prince. Yeah. Yeah, I did. Damn, you don't believe nobody. No, no, what it, what,

What, I just, it was just, I just thought Prince, I mean, I loved him as an artist, like, I was, I really love, love him as an artist, loved him and loved him as an artist. The, he was just, I just wouldn't, you know, just like, why do he want me to come sit down with him and, but I was young, so I'm like, you know, I'm like, you know, I'm like, shit, this motherfucker might be trying to hit on me or something. So I'm young, not thinking about, he wants his business, come sit down with, go sit down with this dude. After, you know, when I thought about it later on, I'm like, I should have went and sat my ass down with Prince and really got gained from him. Learned got a lot of knowledge from him. Right. You know, instead of thinking a different way, like, what do he want with me? Right.

What do he want? Like, what's up? Are you, what, what? you know, but I still was a diehard Prince fan, still a fan of him. But you did finally get a chance to meet him. He had got a chance to meet him, a really cool dude. Just had a lot of knowledge, like a lot of knowledge

and just would give me a lot of game on shit like the industry. And he was a cool dude, but that was another one of those things, just being young that I remember. regret not doing, you know, I should have went, you know, and all my folks was like, boy, you better go, go see with him, what is wrong with you? Like, oh man, I just don't, you know, and never, I didn't get the record cleared that I wanted to clear for it, because I redid one of his records that was, me and Nate, again, it was, it was a bona fide.

Right, see, now if you didn't stop with him, you probably could have got it clear. Man, I was just like, man, I just, you know, I just, I was young, just like, you know what, I ain't getting ready to go out there. Shit, I don't know, I don't, I don't know what he won't, what he want to be out there for a shit, you know, but, you know, it was just to have a conversation and meet the guy who wants to use some of my music. Right. You know what I mean? But I wasn't thinking like that. I was all over the place like this. Is it the other than Prince and Michael,

and Michael, have you ever been Starstruck? Who has a bit got you starstruck? Anita Baker, like all of the, all of the, the OGs before me, all of them. Like Anita Baker was like, I was like this, I am, This, I am, I was in love with her music from a tiny, tiny kids, so, let me see, just like, all, I was, anybody I would meet, just, I was, I was, like, I can't believe I'm here. Oh, yes. Chaka Khan, which I've been around her, I've been around all of, Tina Marie, and just everybody, like.

Andy Murphy, Charlie. Murphy's and just everybody like I didn't been around everybody and them me being like star struck towards them and they like fans of me like like man that's Warren she and I'm like y'all know my name this is crazy yeah it's uh you did uh Chloe's birthday party uh what was that like It was dope. It was dope. A lot of, a lot of, a lot of beautiful women up in there. It was like pink everywhere.

And Chloe and Kim came up to me, and they was just like regulate as our favorite song ever. And I was like, what? She was like, that is our, so when I did it, they was just like, they was right there in the front, dancing. And that was just, that was, that was like a dope moment, like, damn, like the Kardashians love my shit. They, like, this is their favorite shit. So that was a, that was a moment, man, a really, really special moment just to get that love from them. And then I seen a clip of her and Kanye in the car,

and they was banging regular late, singing it together, banging. I was like, wow. What's the wildest party over the event you've done? Oh, way. Shit. I'm going to say this. The wildest party I'd have never been to was wet and wild. NWA, Easy and NWA, wet and wild.

That was the wildest party. I ever been to that I I didn't I didn't I my parties wasn't that wow but that that NWA party easy and NW wasn't well that that was party that was that that party was a wow but there was a lot of a lot of uh I was I was a young kid though but I was I was a young team I think I was about 14 15 somewhere around there around that time when I went to that and uh whewh it was it was good old time huh good old time it was crack it and they they you know they treated me like one of the fellas yeah i got the the you know a wrong man treatment in there ain't no wrong with that yeah you produced uh jizi leave you alone

if there a lot of songs that people wouldn't guess that you've actually produced Yeah, there's a lot of them out there that people don't, you know, I did leave you alone for young Gizi. I've done, even, even you got to get chores, I got to get mine with MC Breed and Tupac. You got to get yours, I got to get yours, I got to get mine. People like, oh, you did that? I was like, yeah. That was once again, that was one of the first records that I had a shot at producing and it ended up being one of their biggest records together. Right. But I've done a lot of, I didn't produce for new addition, a lot of, a lot of groups, Brian Isley, I didn't produce for a lot of artists.

Even younger or even today, artists or today, I've been working with a lot of the younger artists you know because my my mindset is you never too old to make a hit record and you know I don't try to just because these guys are young and they doing this and doing that I get them knowledge and I direct them in a in a different path and if they called me like Warren what about such a such and this that and then I give them tell them okay you should do this you know so I'm kind of like a big brother and as well as you know us working in a business relationship,

work, business work relationship with different artists. Have you ever gotten an opportunity to work with a M or 50? No, no. I haven't got a chance to work with them. I would love to do a record with M or 50 produce a track for

either one of them. Just got to get around them and play some tracks, you know. When you heard about M, man this is white this white dude out of Michigan Detroit but he liked that

because the last white dude you probably think of you probably think of vanilla ice you don't you're like come on come on now come on now they said nah nah nah nah hey he up there yeah when you

when you first heard it they said that that's him that's the one I was telling about that's him that's a white dude yeah we was like who was this white motherfuck up in here

in the studio because we this was our shit when they had first brought him around yeah we was like who was this

motherfucker up in here all of us like what fuck he got up in here this is our shit this our shit

and that motherfucker was busing we was like god damn he hard as f*** uh

ended up He ended up being incredible, you know, incredible and really, really gelled right into what we already had moving musically. Where would you rank M? Because people seem like because, you know, hip hop, where it originated, how, and so many of us and that, there are not very many M's. He's very unique. We understand that. And I don't think people give him the credit that he deserves because he's a white and that's our genre. You know, hip hop is us, rap is us.

Gangsy rap is us. And so sometimes I don't think people give him the credit that he deserves. He definitely in the top, the top, and he's in the top 15. I don't want to, I don't want to make it too small like the top 10 because there's some dope motherfuckers. Yeah, some heavy hitters. Heavy hitters. He definitely in that top 15. He's dope.

He dope. See, Eminem is an MC. He has straight hip hop, straight hip hop. It's not, he wasn't on like what we was on. We was more storytelling. It was hip hop, but we was more storytelling and telling a story about our life and making it like a movie on wax. And he was more of the straight hip hop,

straight at you, bad on emcee, but could tell a story at the same time. but it's still in his way and in his element the way he do it in a hip in a MC way right um but when he wrote the shit like the stuff that he writes for Dre and the way that I was like this motherfucker right here he can write this and then turn around the way what makes it so it's amazing because when um you fire found out that it was hole that wrote

Dre Day for Dre and you hear M write like how did they write that for him and it sounded like he actually wrote it for himself? How? How did they do that? I tripped off of that

thing that ain't the same for gangsters M&M wrote that that shit was, that's one of my favorite songs on that album. Boom boom boom boom boom. I was like this motherfucker is dope.

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You're going to have me drunk up here. That's a thing. It's tough. It's hit dated, though. Yes, indeed. It's so good. I keep down at it. We're going to see your home with a bottle.

We're going to see your home with a bottle. Yes, indeed. I mean, we're going to see your hole with, but... We were going to see your home with two bottles, but... As y'all can see, we've been getting getting it in. Yes indeed. Kendrick, how surprised are you, because I've always thought he's been a great storyteller and but this last year and a half with the five grandmas in the halve time show and

he's just going to, he's just going to a different level. Yeah, Kendrick, Kendrick definitely has solidified his position on the West Coast. I can't say king. He can be king right now though. He might not be the key. Yeah, but he made a name for himself because it's going to be hard to break. When you look at the West, you look at Snoop and you look at Cube and you look at Drey and you look at 40 and you look at some of the guys that came out of the West Coast Park, you're like, mm-G. But now you're like, okay, Kenyon, you don't carve that little space for yourself.

Yeah, he definitely made his mark and solidified himself as one of the best. to do it from the West. You know, I can't just say he's the biggest out of everybody there or, like, ever and stuff like that. I can't say that. But in his generation, right now, in his era, yes, he's the king. But as him being the king of that younger generation that he's a part of now, he's the king of that, but as a whole, he solidified himself to be one of the, one of the, one of the, you know,

the greatest, with the greatest, with the Snoop dolls, ice cubes, the Warren G's, Dr. Dre's, the Easy Ease, ice tea, King T, you know, it's a lot of guys, the DJ Quick, like, it's a lot of guys that, that don't get mentioned, like all those names I mentioned, and he's one of them that's in there, he's in, he's in that now. When you got the news that when you started this thing, it was you, him, and Snoop. Snoop was doing his thing, but you and Nate, thick and thin, cold or hot, up or down. Yeah. You got the news that he was gone.

First thought, what was the emotions? When they passed away, we actually was on tour and we heard about it right before, this was like right before we was about to go on the stage. We was in Corpus Christi, and we just cried, you know, all of us just we all was in Snoop's room. everybody on the tour we was all in Snoop room and air all of us was just just pouring out just crying we cried and cried and cried did the show and came back and cried more more and just couldn't believe it you know and uh we went straight home after that we took off went straight home from off the road and went back went back home yeah and and to bury him Yeah, and, yeah, that was, that was, like, it was really bad for us, like, super bad, man.

Well, like I said, we cried, we cried, cried, cried, cried, cried. Because he was so young, he was only 41. You're not going to give me up here crying, Shannon. Yeah, but we was hurt, man. still hurt you know still hurt what do you want his legacy what do you want people to know about Nate that they don't know or they haven't heard or there any story that you want to tell so people get a better understanding just who Nate dog was he was a good father there's a good father to his kids he took

care of all his kids and he was a man of God you know even though he you know wrote like he wrote. He was a man of God. He was raised in the church. His mother is super church. She don't listen to hip hop. She don't want to have nothing to do with it. None of that. His whole family, him and Sam and his sister, they all was raised in the church. So he was a very godly person, even though he went through the things, some of the things he went through. All of the stuff he went through, he was a godly, godly person, and he was a great dad to his kids. You've been mad almost 30 years. What's the secret? I hear a lot of secrets. I mean, I've heard a lot of people that's been mad 20 years, 30 years, 40 years,

40 years, 50 years, and it's going to be interesting to hear what you have to say. And I'm going to see how it jives with what some people that's been mad. for 30 years, 40 years, 50 years, what they say. What's the trick to being married for an extended period of time? Just, that's like, well, she's my best friend. You know what I mean? We're best friends. And, you know, if we argue, like when we argue

or if we argue, whatever we go at it or whatever, you know, I'll go back myself. And I say, like, was I wrong or was I right? Was I wrong? Was I right? Or if she wrong or right, one of us are come and say, you know what? I'm sorry. I was wrong.

You know what I mean? Or I'll be like, you was right. You know, I was wrong about what I said or what I did or this, that, and this. And then, you know, but at the end of the day, that's my friend. We'd be friends. and that's we're not only husband and wife but we're friends and we joke around we talk shit have a good time we argue uh we don't let none of that stuff we don't let it legal we we don't let it we clear it up you know sometimes we get hired at each other for maybe a day

two days or something you know well we still you know like you know it ain't like you know you You'll be mad like, you want to go out to eat? That's how, that's how it starts back up. Like, let's go get a buddy. You want to go get something to eat? I swear to God, you hit it right on the nose. And we take off and go eat, and then when we go eat, we back laughing and talking and having a good time. And realize the thing that we got upset about, it really wasn't that big of a deal to begin with.

It wasn't a big deal, you know. And, uh, you know, so. Have you guys always been great? Because I hear LeBron was talking about his wife, Savannah, and I've heard a lot of people say, the number one thing, communication. Yes, indeed. You got to be able to communicate. Yeah.

And I think the thing is, the biggest thing is that the therapist told me, she said, she told me one time, she said, Shannon, she said, you're speaking two different languages. Yeah. She said, she's speaking in Mandarin, and you're speaking in Spanish. Yeah. Now, either you learn her language. And she learns yours, so you know how to communicate? Yeah.

Or it's not going to work. Yeah. It's really that simple. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We communicate. And, you know, the whole. You have to be honest. You have to be transparent or something. Bothering you got to say what's bothering you and not be. But you've been together for 30 years. You've been mad 30 years. So you've probably known her for 35 years.

Yeah. And so you kind of know what makes her tick. She knows what makes you tick. and you're kind of able to navigate and stay out of those land fields where those landmines are and you kind of navigate that but obviously there are going to be times.

Nobody has ever been married and every day is a better road. Yeah, like I mean even the other day we're driving and she'll be like well you need to do that and I'm like wait a minute, hold up, why are you going to try to tell me how to drive?

Wait a minute. I you've had a fender bender I ain't never had a fender bender like somebody has hit me right but I ain't never like boom like but you know and that you know that sometimes you know it gets me hot you know so we'll argue a little bit and you know we'll be mad for 10 15 minutes and then we start back talking again how difficult is to stay married being in the music business. You travel a lot. You're around a lot of beautiful women. You're gone sometimes a week, two weeks, three weeks at a time. And she has to run the house while you're out there doing that. But obviously, you've got to communicate.

You have an understanding. You have to be transparent. You have to be honest. How difficult has it been for you to navigate three decades of marriage being in the industry that you're in? It'd be a lot of temptation, you know, you just got to say to yourself, do you want to risk losing all of this over here, your beautiful wife and all your kids and everything that I built over here just over this. Yeah. You know, one night, you know, of this to lose all of that.

It ain't no such thing. Yeah, it's just, it's. You know what about it? Yeah, but you, it's just like, I just, you know, I just, you know, I just don't want to, you know, I don't want to, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to, you know, it ain't, it ain't, it ain't worth it, you know, when I, when I was young, though, before our relationship, I was a monster. I was everywhere, I was, I was, I was on, outside outside. side. Man, you know, but yeah, she, she a good woman and that's another reason why, you know, I'm good to her as well because she's, she's a really good woman and she really, like, got my back 110% and something. I argue at her about some things and then I come back because I see what she just, we were just arguing about. And I see what she was saying that. It makes sense now.

Yeah. And I'll be like, damn, that's, she is amazing, you know. Would you have been, would you have been as successful as you are had you not had the stability of having a wife for three decades? Uh, I probably would have went in a couple of different directions as far as like maybe getting in the, more trouble, you know, back, you know, but, um, you know, she kept me, she didn't kept me out of a lot of, a lot of, a lot of, uh, BS. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Children, how many kids you have? Six. Damn. Uh-huh. Six. That ain't a lot. That what you mean that Four boys and two girls.

The oldest? The oldest is 28. Youngest. The youngest is royal. He's 10. And then my daughter, Lola, is 15. My daughter, Lauren, she's 20. My son, Neil, is 22.

My son, Elijah, is 26. 26. You done now? And did I get him all? I'll be forgetting some time. You done? Definitely. I'm nowhere near it.

I'm done. Over. What type of father are you? Cool. I'm cool, but I, you know, I still and still, you know, like some of the moral, I still instill morals like, you know, like we used to have when I was coming like in there cleaning up that room every day doing this washing the dishes all of that I still even though I'm Warren G I'd be like go wash them dishes

or go take out the trash go do the you know I'd be on them and they they they don't they they probably don't even look at me as Warren G like the this the artists of this that and this they like you know that's dad you know they They, because they, I ain't mean, but they think that the stuff I tell them, like, go take out the trash that's being mean or that stuff. No, that's not being mean. That's the way it's supposed to go. Yes. You know, get up.

You need to do this. You need to do that. I'll be on their ass, you know. And they're all good kids. Ain't none of my boys been in no trouble like gang shit or any jail stuff. They ain't never been to jail. been in no trouble like nothing none of my girls nobody have never been in trouble and what trip me out is they they ain't they ain't the type they don't

never asked me for like Jordans or all the high tech stuff act where I take that back my daughters is they they they hit me here they hit me but other than that my boys don't they you know they don't you know they was kids they never asked me for a bunch of stuff and I've never Been like, okay, you can have this. Well, getting them anything they wanted. I didn't do that. I would have them.

You got to work for it. You know, you got to work for it. No matter what it is, if even when you're in sports, like my boys, I used to tell them, okay, if you do this or you do that in your football and this, okay, I give you $100. When they was kids, like little bitty kids playing Pop Warner and stuff like that, you score two or three touchdowns.

I got you. I'm going to give you this. tearing it up and I give you this you know or I would make them work for stuff but they would never be the type like I want this I want that I want that or never and I was like damn I'm blessed for that you know and they they you know they think I'm uh you think I'm cool they know I'm cool because I'd laugh and joke and talk mess and, you know, I'll be messing with my daughters. I'll be calling them the baddies.

And they don't like it, but they laugh at it a lot. But they're good kids, and they, they, I just got to be a dad. And I tell them that. I got to be a dad. I can't be your friend and let you do anything. You know, I got to be a dad. So the dynamic, I told my kids, I said, the dynamic of our relationship went on for change I'll always be dad you'll always be the child yes indeed yes indeed you know and so

let's let's stay in our appropriate places yes indeed because yeah I said your friends hey y'all hang out y'all talk to each other in a certain way that's fine yeah but as a parent there needs to be always a healthy level of respect yeah yeah there and you know as and as as they got older you know hey it was no more I didn't demand I was like look you understand You know right from wrong. I shouldn't have to yell and scream and do all the other stuff. Yeah. It should be just what I think you should do in the matter of what you should do it.

Yes, indeed. But at the end of the day, you're grown now. You make your own decisions. Yeah. But hopefully you've done a good enough job from birth until 18, 19, that when they get 25, they get 30, it's like, okay. Yeah. This is what we should be doing.

This is how we should do it. Yeah. Let me get you out of here on this one. When you see a situation like a Dane, And he had fallen out with Rockefeller and a lot of the artists. How do we make sure we don't have another situation like that? Because it's sad. It is.

Just got to keep the business a little bit more tight. This is the type of person I am. Even though, like, if I was in Jay-Z position, even though me and this guy ain't getting along or whatever, we got history. Like, we've done a lot of big things together. And if I see him just like, if I see him and I'm like, damn, he's struggling or this, that, and this,

I'll try to, like, figure out some type of way we can mend so I could say, look, let me get you involved in this so you can get this. You know what I mean? or do this so you can get that or you know because i don't want to we got too much history together for i don't want to see you that way or struggling you know what i mean i don't want to see that man because we started together okay we had our little falling outs or whatever but at the end of the day man you know i grew with you we did build something special yeah we built some some really special

things together so you know here you go here you go there you go there you know just so you can be back on your feet you know and if I'm here a billionaire shit I'm if I was a billionaire I'd be like look take this you know now if you lose that then something may right you own you on your own but take this you know you should be good off that period no more what's uh what's next war and g uh just a lot of a lot of good business a lot of good music um i've just i just got involved in and uh baseball just became a owner part of the ownership group with the uh with the uh long beach it's a minor league baseball team but it's the first team that's about to be coming from up by the long

beach and we i became a owner part of the ownership group with that and uh we're trying to make we're making the name not trying we're gonna make the name the long beach regulators and i'm really happy to be involved and because it gives me a chance to give back to the community by doing different events and bringing like a snoop or bringing any artists there to the stadium to perform for the neighborhood or the kids wherever you're from whoever show up and it's a chance for the team to go here or the king park to build this new court they got or go to the wreck and build the new wreck thing or go to the homeless thing and help them and the mayor you know help out with some of the things with the mayor around

the city and because I was born and raised there so it's like it's only right that I give back in that way. And then we got something to root for, you know, because they don't have a lot to root for. We got the Dodgers and the Lakers and, you know, the Raiders and, you know, the Chargers and, you know, the Chargers and stuff like that. The Chargers, Raiders belong to Vegas now. Yeah.

Yeah. You got, you got, when is the new music coming out? I'm talking about you working on some new music. Right now we're looking, well, I'm looking at dropping, I'm dropping the single by November. I'm working on that right now. I'm pretty much there. I just got a few touch-ups I got to do

with mixing and mastering. And it's a couple more artists that I want to work with before I shut it all the way out. A lot of good music, a lot of good businesses coming with the baseball, sports, a lot of business outside of, the baseball, like real estate, and then as well as still helping newer artists in the game and getting them under a good distribution to get their records out there in a good way.

You know, still helping out artists, still doing everything. And not, ain't nothing change. I'm still, still at it, you know, like I always been, but just a little bit more smarter, you know. You go check out this barbecue rub and sauces sniffing griffins Warren G production

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