Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Wiz Khalifa Part 1

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

In the latest episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe sits down with hip-hop icon Wiz Khalifa for an unfiltered conversation about his groundbreaking career, entrepreneurial ventures, and cultural influence. Known for hits like "See You Again" and "Black and Yellow," Wiz reflects on his military upbringing, which shaped his adaptability and global perspective. From his early days in Pittsburgh’s underground rap scene to worldwide stardom, Wiz takes us on a journey of growth and transformation. Wiz opens up about his childhood, moving across the globe as part of a military family, and how these experiences helped him connect with people from diverse backgrounds. He shares his path to success, from grueling promo runs and artist development to finding his voice during a brief stint with Warner Brothers before reinventing himself. He also reflects on pivotal moments in his career, including being part of the 2010 XXL Freshman Class with J.Cole, Nipsey Hussle, Big Sean, and Nicki Minaj and how social media helped him build his image and connect with fans. Wiz recalls his friendship with the late Nipsey Hussle and their legendary times together. The episode also explores his role in reshaping the cannabis industry with his brand Khalifa Kush and his smart investments, such as his partnership with Liquid Death. Wiz shares his thoughts on hip-hop rivalries, from LL Cool J and Kool Moe Dee to the ongoing tensions between Kendrick Lamar and Drake. He offers his unique take on how these rivalries reveal deeper truths about industry dynamics. The discussion also touches on the cultural impact of the Super Bowl halftime show, including Lil Wayne’s response to Kendrick Lamar headlining the upcoming event in New Orleans.Wiz dives into his financial journey, emphasizing the importance of smart investments and avoiding frivolous spending. He shares how his business ventures have helped turn his lifestyle into a money-making machine.  #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor of Club Cheche. The guy that's stopping by for conversation and a drink today is one of hip hop's most influential and recognizable and of my rappers in the world. He has one of the most streamed songs in the history. See you again. A multi-platinum and diamond selling hit maker.

Grammy and gold and gold nominated artist, award winning rapper, singer, songwriter, vocalist, emcee, a multi-talented actor, composer, musician, entrepreneur, executive, and entertainer. A global and a pop superstar. A cultural icon. A marijuana connoisseur. and he's an aficionado of said product, a veteran of the grain, a proud dad, here he is, Wiz Khalifa. Wiz.

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what you, what you, what you, at the Jordan. Man, I thought she was getting drunk on the set. That's why people like it, because it look like, it look like a beer, right? Slits, you remember, Slits used to come in can, I don't know if they still make it, but they used to come in, I'd try a little. Look like a tall boy, right? Yeah, it does. It's a little water, you know what I'm saying?

We gotta deal with Live Nation as well, so like all of the venues that Live Nation throws concerts or anything at, you're gonna get Liquid Def there. There's a lot of clubs, he's selling in gas stations. You know, seven- Yeah, I did not know that was water. I was wondering why people were like, well damn, y'all drinking in the middle of the day like that?

It's crazy, because I give my son that, and he'll go like his game, and he's crushing it on the side. It looks like he's like dude, sitting here drinking beer. But you also have a product that, Khalifa Kush. Yeah, I have a weed company as well. Khalifa Kush is named after me,

and it's grown off of my expertise. So the main strain is the Khalifa Kush, but we have other flavors too. There's Violet Sky, Baby Turtle, Khalifa Mints as well. Right. Yeah, yeah. Let's goet Sky, Baby Turtle, Khalifa Mints as well. Right. Yeah. Let's go back to where it all started. Your mom and your parents were in the military. Uh-huh. So you moved around a lot. You moved around more than a Pentecostal minister family. So how difficult was it to make friends because you weren't in a

location very long. Right. It wasn't really difficult for me to make friends. I've always been the type to kind of just blend in. Yeah, I got friends from down south. I know how they talk. I know they slang. I got family in New York. I can get down with them. I got family.

I'm from Pittsburgh. So it's like I'm out here in LA. You know what I mean? I learn how to just get down with the folks who are around. Did it like, OK, you're on a location for two years. You get these great friends. You're like, okay, you're on a location for two years, you get these great friends, you're like, ah yeah man, that's my boy, and the next thing you know,

you're up and moving. Gotta bounce. Anybody who's in the military family, they know what that's like, man. I think like the older that I got, it was like, damn, I really ain't got no friends from my childhood. But like back then, it was normal to me, so I just did what I had to do.

Like when you're bouncing around, have you ever, have any of those friends that you like, when you was like seven, eight, 10, 12, 13, 14, do you still have any of those people that you like was cool with back then? I don't really got like too much contact with them now, but if they come to a show or they wanna pop up, they're like, yo, that's Cam from blah, blah,

I still remember him. Okay, do you, okay. Hell yeah, so we can vibe out. I still fuck with my partner Tyrese. I was cool with him in like seventh grade. Me and him, we still got contact with each other. You were North Dakota, South Carolina, Georgia, Oklahoma, Germany, the United Kingdom, Japan, Pittsburgh.

Let's take a couple of these states and see what you remember most and what you like most about them. Let's take North Dakota of these states and see what you remember most and what you like most about them. Let's take North Dakota, because you might be the first and only black person I've ever met that have lived in North Dakota, so I'm very interested to know what that was like for you growing up as a kid. I don't remember shit about it. I don't, yo. My dad told me it was hella cold. That's about it. What about Oklahoma? Oklahoma was fun

I played a lot of basketball down there. I chased a lot of girls down there That's why I first started, you know recording my music Okay, so that's when I learned how to you know, get my studio etiquette and all of that What part of Oklahoma? Altus, Oklahoma. Okay My my stepmother was stationed down there. Okay, and my father opened a studio down there Okay, so that's how I was able to like start practicing and shit like that Germany United Kingdom. What what was what is it like for a kid? Being overseas. Yeah, you're an American. Obviously, you're not I mean you probably learned the language and but this different

The culture is a lot different over there than it is over here. Yeah, yeah. Let me think. Really, I was a baby, so I was really around my parents the most, you know what I mean? And then, for real, for real, my parents divorced like when I was younger.

So my only memories of them kind of together was overseas. Okay. Yeah. And then like that's where my dad met my stepmom as well. So she's still in my life to this day. So I remember that as far as overseas as well. Of the places that I mentioned, the North Dakota, South Carolina, Georgia, Oklahoma, Germany, United Kingdom, Japan.

What's your favorite place? Do you have any farm memories? Do you go back over there? Obviously when you're traveling or you're touring, do you remember anything about these places? I remember a lot about Japan and Oklahoma, but Japan, it was a different experience because I was on a military base.

Yeah, exactly, but just being a kid there, it was fun as hell. It was super duper fun, but my favorite place out of all of them is always gonna be Pittsburgh. Really? Yeah, that's where my family's at. That's home. You know what I mean?

That's what I really connect with the most. And every time I would leave and come back, it was always to Pittsburgh. So I would leave Pittsburgh, go somewhere, and then come back. So anywhere that I always went, I was always the kid from Pittsburgh. That was the question I was gonna ask you

of all the places that you lived. What was the best place, what was the funnest place, what have your fondest memories, and you mentioned Pittsburgh. So how much time, so how old were you when you got to Pittsburgh? Shit, I was probably like two years old. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

I was two the first time I was there, and then I was there for maybe like a year and a half or two, then I moved away for two years, and then it was on and off like that every two years Until I was like 13 years old right and then after I was 13. I was pretty much there till I was an adult Okay. Yeah, yeah in Japan. Did you did you speak the language? Were you fluid? They had us going to like this little Japanese class not even a Japanese school But it was a class that we used to

take that taught us like basic shit like konnichiwa, like how to count to ten. Right. But like that's really it. What about the food? I heard, you know, because this sushi, I mean you eat sushi? Yeah, hell yeah. Because see that was that clearly obviously it originated there. And so did you understand the, did you understand the culture?

I did, but I was really young I was a teenager So like more now I would be on some player shit, right? I was like a little player I was playing basketball right I wasn't you know, I mean right now. I'm a big old player. It'll be a different experience So when you go to a Japanese restaurant you I mean you could look at the menus like okay I want this I want this so you kind of know what Japanese cuisine is. Yeah for sure I know what I like and I know what I'm willing to try right and if I don't then I'm Just gonna ask you like and if you say some shit that I ain't really into eating then we ain't doing nothing. But they eat live stuff over there too right eat like octopus and frogs and all that shit

But I've had frog before frog legs not whole damn frog, just the leg of it. They put a whole frog in their mouth. No, no, hell no. Hell no. Not the whole frog, just the leg. Yeah, no, the legs would be sticking out. Oh, no. And the whole frog would be in their mouth.

They'd go crazy over there. Yeah, I didn't eat that. Right. So what's a regular, so obviously you can get sushi over there. So, but what's a regular meal? Like, they eat a lot of rice? Yeah, a lot of rice like they do like beef bowls, they do like beef and rice. Okay. Or like fish and rice. Chicken and rice. Yeah, just regular stuff like that. They eat, I mean they eat pretty clean,

you know what I mean? They don't have like a lot of, unless it's American, but they don't have like fast food and things like that. Oh, okay. So it's pretty clean. Right. Yeah, yep. Student in school, so what type of student were you? I was the one who like was, is smart, very smart, had a lot of potential but very social. Yeah. Yeah. You jagged around.

Yeah, yeah, nah, for sure. As soon as I get settled in and like I find some homies, yeah, we're cutting up, you know, like for sure, 100%. So you mentioned earlier, you're a big player, but you were a little player back then, so you always kind of been into girls, huh? Yeah, for sure, hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

That was always my thing, was just being smooth, being cool, you know what I mean? I love females, so I used to write girls letters and shit. I played sports with the homies, but I wasn't like a jock, like, you know what I'm saying? So I had to be like good with my words and shit. So yeah, yeah, definitely. So being young and courting the women, trying to come up with, like you say, you're not an athlete,

so you have to find a different way to approach them. Did that help you become the writer in music that you are now? I don't know I Think maybe like it just helped my confidence like while writing right because like I had something to write about Like it wasn't I wasn't always trying to be like the toughest out there I always wanted to make some shit in like for the ladies, right? You know what I'm saying? and I think like just knowing what women like

and talking to a lot of girls, even not even just trying to date them, just talking to them on a friend level, just figuring out what girls really like. That definitely is an advantage that I always had. You said you wrote love letters. Do you think any of them still have those love letters? Oh, for sure.

They gonna put them on for sale. They better, no, they better just show people like them shit's real, hell yeah, they better. I used to say, yeah, my letters was very valuable, even back then. You mentioned that you played sports with the homies, but you didn't play anything that was organized, like basketball, or football, or baseball.

I played a little bit for school, and for the base the base or like for the youth center and shit like that But it was just like on and off. It wasn't anything serious. I've never been to no camps or nothing I was just like natural just fun shit, but you would you all but you like sports You just didn't play them competitively like that, right? I yeah, I played up to a point to where everybody else got good as f*** and I was like, you know, I'm gonna just I'm gonna go get over here and do something Yeah, I'm gonna do music And also I started seeing like breaking they legs and shit like that in school

I was like man, I'm not trying to be in crutches and shit like that. I'm gonna go write a rap You bitching that your parents got divorced at a very young age. What type of impact waves did that have on you? I think it was probably better for me. Really? Your parents got divorced at a very young age. What type of impact, Wizz, did that have on you? I think it was probably better for me. Really? Yeah, because my parents are really two strong personalities. They argued a lot, huh?

They just, you know, they're better apart. Yeah, they're just way better apart. And like, I was able to have a really good relationship with both of them. Like, I have a great relationship with my dad and my mother. And, you know, they might have been in jail if they stayed together.

So yeah, I'm glad they broke up. Having been a kid with divorced parents, what type of advice would you give kids that if they're parents, because sometimes, like you said, it didn't impact you. And you realize that you know what, I think y'all, I love both of you guys, but you guys are much better apart than you are together Right, but some kids don't take it like that some kids hold

That against one parent or the other right, you know Sometimes they blame the father sometimes they blame the mother and they carry that with them What type of advice would you like to give kids that are going through parents are divorcing man? It's it's cloudy because you really don't get to see the results until later and a lot of the times I would say like you just got to give it time because you really don't get to see the results until later. Mm-hmm. And a lot of the times, I would say, like, you just got to give it time because you never know, like, you might have a father who can't really be the father that he could be while he's in a relationship.

And you might have a stronger relationship with your parent while they're not together rather than them being together, but you really don't know and you can't see it that way. Right. And you don't see it from their perspective of what they are and aren't able to do, you know what I'm saying, in a relationship versus out of a relationship.

So as long as the love is still there and everybody's like, I'm a very responsible parent, my parents are responsible, but they went through shit too, you know what I'm saying? They needed time to grow. So you gotta give them that grace and kinda just rock with them, bro. Well, you know, sometimes you see parents where one parent tried to turn the kid

against the other parent. And they would say, and it's maybe not like, oh, it's your dad, or it's your mom. Well, what did y'all do? Are you hungry? They're saying things to try to contaminate the kid's mind to feel some type of way about the parents. But I'm getting from you, your parents didn't do that to you.

I think naturally they had like little bickering situations and shit like that, but they tried their best to stay away from that shit. Like they did their best to stay away from it, but they really didn't fuck with each other. So it was hard, you know what I mean? But now I remember vivid conversations of my dad being like, no, I'm not gonna talk bad about your mom.

That's not what I'm gonna do. Like, you're gonna make certain decisions, you're gonna see things on your own, but I'm not gonna be the one to sit here and tell you that shit. Yeah, we're not gonna kick it. That's your mom, but we age. Exactly, respect your mom, love your mom, blah blah blah,

and then vice versa for my mom too. You mentioned that your dad got you a studio. So how old were you when you fell in love with music that you decided that, you know what, I think this is kind of what I want to do. I was like 13 and I was just like freestyling with the homies and shit, but I really felt like that was my thing. That was your calling. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, I think I'm pretty good at this and I wanna just see where it takes me type shit. And my dad was just like, yo, if you serious about it,

I'm gonna get you some equipment and you learn how to use that shit. And that's what it turned into. How helpful was it that you had parents that believed in your dreams? That they didn't, hey boy, you going to school. You gonna go to college, you gonna get an education, you go get a job, and you were like, this is kind of what I wanna do,

this is my passion, this is what I really wanna do when I become an adult, and they were like, okay, this what you wanna do? I'm gonna get you some equipment, I'm gonna get you some studio time, let's see where it takes you. Yeah, it helped out a lot, man. I think it was everything for me,

because it just allowed me to create freely, and I didn't have to go up against anybody's word or anybody not believing in my dream. They always believed in me from day one. Just creating the music. They were like, okay, if you're making music, cool. Keep doing it. If you love it, we'll see where it takes you.

There's no guarantees, but they always were just with me like always like you know where sometimes Parents try to live out their dreams through the kid, right? They want the kids to go to college or this certain college because that's kind of where they wanted to go It didn't happen. Yeah, they want them to play a sport. They want to become a doctor They want them to come X Y and Z clearly your parents were in the military And that's not but to have the forethought and said well, this is what this boy want to do, right? Right, let's just support him and the forethought and says well, this is what this boy want to do right, right?

Let's just support him and see where it goes. Yeah, absolutely What type of feeling did that give it? Cuz a lot of time kids suppress what they really want to do trying to please their parents because they don't want to let their Parents down right, right. I think my parents would have rather me do something a little bit safer. Mm-hmm So there is the you know, go to school do this be responsible blah blah blah But in the end they were like this is what he loves like clearly this motherfuckers going to sleep Doing this shit waking up doing this shit. I had quit all my sports. I wasn't hanging out my friends. Okay I wasn't doing nothing. So you was really serious about this now. Yeah, I was just in the studio all the time

So what like they couldn't tell me shit I was gonna do it anyway but they trusted me a lot like even just working in different studios with people being away from them a lot of times yeah helped out a lot and then you know going to shows booking shows early days stuff like that my mom was right there with me like you know driving me there in my dressing room making sure that you know everything goes the right way so it was was a lot, and it could have went different ways. I don't know how other people's support system is, but it helped me out tremendously.

What advice would you give parents that maybe are raising a child that their ambitions are different than what the parent's ambition is for the child? I think that whatever your child shows interest in, the more you show interest in it with them, the further they're gonna go. And I just think that that just translates everywhere,

whether it be sports or music or dance or film, whatever it is, if you show the same interest in it with them, even if you don't know shit about it, it's gonna help them grow. And you know, yeah, hell yeah. You signed a record deal when you're in high school. Did your friends know, did the school know that you were like, you were that into it,

and did it change once they found out that you were? Yeah, nah, for me, everybody knew what I was doing. And did it change once they find I found out that you were yeah Now for me everybody knew what I was doing. I was always cam like that's my real name Cameron Yeah, it's just cam cam be rapping like that's what cam does right cam gonna be a rapper He think he's gonna be a rapper okay Everybody knew that I was in a couple magazines like while I was in high school Okay And I sold my CDs in high school like I would walk around selling my CDs and shit.

And there are people who still have those, like the CDs that I sold. It works up now though. Yeah, yeah, hell yeah. They just be taking pictures of it and putting it on Instagram. I'm like damn nigga, like that's some classic shit right there.

So yeah, everybody knew I was doing what I was doing. And now I didn't really change much because where I'm from, like nobody has seen nothing like that So I wasn't like I was y'all really know a lot of rappers out of Pittsburgh Yeah, it wasn't like I was like Hollywood like nobody was really checking for me I was just like doing my thing so it was really humble beginnings for sure. How did you get discovered? I got discovered by being in the studio in Pittsburgh. Mm-hmm. Just my talent recording Covered by being in the studio in Pittsburgh, just my talent recording, E. Dan, who's like my mentor,

and there's a couple other guys around, Huggy and Chad. They introduced me to Benji. Benji had been in the industry at that point, but he's from Pittsburgh. And he took a chance, he signed me to his independent label, and we basically just worked my records from the time I was 16 till about 23.

And in between that time, I had a record deal at Warner Brothers, and then that record deal went away. And then I came back around the second time, and that's when I more or less reinvented myself and kind of found my personality, found my thing, and then that's what you see now. I read that you were an artist in development for seven years. Yeah. Do you believe that's what's missing from today's artists? Is it what's missing?

No, it's not what's missing. Okay. What do you think is missing? I don't think anything is missing. They're just different? Yeah, they're different, and everybody's doing what is good enough for them or what is going to keep them in the game, for whatever. But those 10 years of artist development

is the reason that I'm where I'm at in my career. Oh, so you believe that's why you've had the longevity. Yeah, 100%, yeah, hell yeah. So what is a development, what is an artist development? So what are you doing during that time? A lot of promo runs, staying in a lot of shitty hotels, not getting paid, a lot of drops. They give you a book this thick, drops that you got to, yo, what's up, shout out to DJ Power One on the weekend, cruise with, yeah Yeah, you gotta do that this many times.

That's part of it. Every radio station from California to New York and everything in between. Yeah, Dallas, Texas, San Antonio, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, all of that. So yeah, you do that. A lot of working with different artists, writers, producers. I've never been in any writing camps,

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How did you find your voice? I found my voice through the internet, like YouTube, Twitter. Really? Yeah, when Twitter first came out, I was really big on that. And still, you know, I still do use social media. But social media allowed me to just get my personality out there and then whatever my agenda, what my music was, that wasn't being understood like in the record labels, you could understand it like through social media, like oh, that's why people like him.

Right. Yeah. In the 2010 XXL freshman class, you, J. Cole, Big Sean, Nipsey, OJ the Juice Man, Freddie Gibbs, J Rock, Fashon, Donis. Boy, that's a hell of a class. That's a hell of a class. I mean, when you go back and look, you think, damn, boy, I'm in here with the heavyweights, but you were named 2000 rookie of the year by the source magazine TV. That's the hottest. Yeah.

I mean, you're not in con- like when you come out, I'm coming out and doing my thing. Whoever else come out, hey, bless your heart. But I'm going to do it. I'm doing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. I was that guy. Yeah, yeah. Heck yeah.

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Yes! Oh, that was cool. When you look back, and I mentioned these names, I don't know if you had ever heard of them prior to this, or did you ever have in contact with them, but when you look at these names, did you think, like, you coming out, you're like, I know you always hoped and prayed that this moment would be here But did you think the other members of that class like you guys all you guys were gonna be household. Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely I think it just all happened like in its own time because like we were all

Competing for the same shit. Yes So it's like like you said Nikki like, you know what I'm saying? Like Nikki now and whiz now, you don't say them together. You know what I'm saying? But we come from the same, you know what I mean? Yes, yes. So that's why she's at where she's at in her career because she learned the same things that I learned back then.

And we all have our time, even Kendrick, like Kendrick was- He in the 2011 class and I was about to ask you that. I'm saying he's under us. Yes. And he was on tours, you know, where he was opening up. But you see Kendrick now, it's like he's doing his 80s. Yeah, he ain't opening up for nobody else. No, hell no.

Not even close. He ain't opening up no more. So it's like, yeah, we come from a really, really, you know, solid class. Like, we did our thing. Yeah, y'all put that thing back to back. Because the 2011 class, it was Kendrick, Meek, Mac Miller, Big Crit, Lil Twist, YG, Lil B, Big Kret, Lil Twist,

YG, Lil B, Diggy Simmons, 2016, you got Savage, Lil Uzi Vert, Lil Yachty, Kodak Black, Denzel Curry, G Herbo, David East, Lil Dicky, Anderson Pox. Yeah. Bro, that was a stretch from about 2010 to 2016? Yeah, for sure. That y'all had that thing on lock. Yep, 100%. But when it's so, man, it's like, how do you,

Wiz, how do you be different when you got so many heavyweights and you got so many guys and women that's letting songs off? How do you stand out? How does Wiz make sure his voice is also heard when you got so many dynamic guys and gals out there? I think there's enough space for all of us. I think every one of those artists that we named has their own fans and what they look like.

You can identify each of those people, be like, you're a so and so fan. So there's enough space for all of us to like. Eight billion people in the world, we give it up. Okay, there's four of the others. You take a couple hundred million and we still good to go. Hell yeah, yeah, for sure.

Nipsey Hussle was a part of your XXL Freshman class. I read that it was true that you made Nipsey start smoking blunts and start smoking with papers. Yeah, he did start smoking blunts for a minute. He was smoking papers. Man, yeah, yeah. All that stuff is on camera, too. There's so many really good moments back then

that we documented, and it's on the internet, and on YouTube, and stuff like that. So you get to see our real come up. it was really, really fun coming up in that time and just chilling but still like making legendary moments and shit like that. Do you remember your last conversation with Nips? I do. I got him drunk as hell.

I think he threw up in the pool. Yeah, so it was cool. So, let me ask you this. Obviously, you know, you're smoking right now. Is that like, is that like to calm your nerves? You smoke, cause Snoop said, Snoop said you and him, y'all the two, y'all the, it can't nobody deal with you and Snoop. Snoop say, Snoop say he think he can get you. Yeah, I mean on certain days.

So let me ask you a question. What does that do for you? Weed, what does it do for me? Hmm. You just like it, does it relax you, does it put you in a better mood, does it put you in a better space? I just love smoking weed.

Have you always? No, I didn't always love it. Like when I wasn't old enough to like understand or function off of it. But when I got to the point where I could, you know, function and smoke weed, it was like, oh hell yeah. Like everybody can't function off weed. I was about to ask you.

Cause just like everybody can't, sometimes you have like what they call a functioning alcoholic or functioning somebody that does something. But you were like, this is normal for you. Oh yeah, yeah, it's normal. Since you started smoking weed, have you ever gone a day in which you didn't smoke? I have.

What's that day like? It's fun. Because I'm usually in like Dubai or something. Okay, okay, okay. Like Saudi Arabia or something. Right, because you can't take it, you can't have it over there. You can't smoke over there.

But like, if I'm here, I have no point not to smoke. There's no point in not smoking. I can go hours without doing it. Hours? Yeah. So when you wake up in the morning, you roll up like, thank you God, let me see another. I remember that light.

Are you for real? Hell yeah. I light up first thing in the morning. Hell yeah. J. Cole was a member of your XXL class. Do you like the criticism? He's received some criticism. Because obviously he fired off one.

Kendrick K. Dock came back, fired off. Cole says, I'm out. Yeah. And he caught a lot of criticism and said, hey bro, no, you can't do that. That man sent for you. You got to go for him too. Right.

You okay with him buying? I said, nah, I'm good. I got better things to do my time. I think, shit, how do I really feel about that? I think there's like two versions of it. Like in hip hop, like according to the rules of hip hop, like no, hell no, you ain't supposed to do that. But in real life, you can like take some shit back

that you said, you know what I'm saying? Like oh, I can like take some shit back that you said. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh I said that, I probably shouldn't have said that. You know what I'm saying? It takes a bigger man to be like, I actually don't want no problems. Right. You know what I mean? Right. So in real life, I f*** with it. Right. Yeah. But in hip-hop, you're like, nah, you got that mess. Well, I'll let other people do the hip hop thing. Have you ever gotten to a battle? I don't say this is no beat. They battle rap, because this go back.

The first battle rap I remember is LL and Kumo D. And it's been coming up ever since then. But I don't think, long as we keep it on wax, we good. I used to have the battle coming up, like just in the city. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, cause it's really competitive. And then you get dudes from one side and they're like, oh this, and they gotta say some shit.

And then you retaliate, you say some shit back or whatever. Or like, there was like an era where we would physically like get in front of each other in a battle too. So I've been in battles like that and I had a lot of diss me because I'm cool as shit. you know what I mean, and they just want to take cheap shots but nothing passed when I got in the industry because everybody f***ed with me. Even if you don't like what I stand for or whatever, whatever, I'm still the weed guy, I'm still cool, I'm still laid back, I'm still a ladies man, so you don't look cool by dissing me or coming at me, you know what I'm still cool, I'm still laid back, I'm still a ladies man, so you don't look cool by dissing me or coming at me.

You know what I'm saying? You can have whatever problem personally, but nobody's ever really stuck their neck out and said, yo, I don't f*** with Wiz Khalifa, because that sounds stupid. But the biggest thing in a while, I don't know if we've ever seen, because it dominated the headlines for the summer, they were don't know if we've ever seen, because it dominated

the headlines for the summer, they were talking about it not in just hip hop and soul magazine and not in just soul and urban radio station, this thing had taken a personality of its own. Right. And that's Kendrick and Drake. And you're the first guy that I've actually, you're the first person I've actually had that's in the industry. So when you heard it, what went through your mind?

About time. I'm tired of actin' like they cool with each other. And when you know they not. Yeah man, like that's cool to me. Like just speak how you really feel, bro. Like, you know what I'm sayin'? Like about time, you know. Did Drake take it too far he suin' the man? No, I mean, that sound like a Drake move to me.

This is kind of what I mean, I sound like a Drake move to me. This is a scandal. I mean, but see, what I'm confused by is that so many people came for Drake, and especially some of the guys that I thought Drake was cool with, because he had done music with them, he had been on their albums, he had been on his. Well, he's a musician and a businessman in my eyes, so it's like if he's not in the public eye winning musically, he's going to get a win wherever he can. I mean, it's a smart thing to do. In my opinion, I think they're playing it exactly how they're supposed to. So you think this was orchestrated, you don't think they got real beef on this?

No, I don't think them with each other at all. Wow. I don't think none of them like each other. They tolerate each other, but they don't get them with each other at all. Wow. I don't think none of them like each other. They tolerate each other, but they don't get down with each other. It's just how the industry is. And like all of that's coming to an end now. And it's all like kind of like spilling out

and you're getting to see it. But this is also like wrestling as well. So the same people who are arguing can be like cool instantly. So it's like, don't get too caught up on like, you know what I mean, the animosity part. But they'll be, not them, but in general, people will be hugging later.

I think the thing was confusing for me is that I didn't think it would become to a situation where we're involved into a lawsuit. I thought we were talking about stuff. And I get, look, I understand from Drake because like, bro, you call me a pedophile. Now you got people looking at me sideways. Now you might be effing up my money with businesses

because nobody wants to be associated with things like that. But are you surprised that he took it to a lawsuit? Am I? No. Really? No. Come on.

I wish we never, I could see if he stole his beat or his track or something, or he copied, but sampled one of his tracks, but not this? No, I'm not surprised. Damn. I heard the thing, because what you're telling me, if I'm listening to you, if I hear it correctly, is kind of like what Cat, when Cat came on

and said what he said, he opened what comedians already knew to be true, that a lot of us don't get along with each other. But Cat brought it to the forefront. You're saying, yeah, there are a lot of people that don't get along with each other, and they've been faking, they pretend like they buddy-buddy, but what K. Dot and Drake did, did they're like I want everybody to see right

We really don't f with each other exactly. Yeah They go. They'll be cool again. I Can't speak on that personally because I don't you know, I don't know. I'm just from a fan perspective. So I don't know. I don't know There's a lot of what happened, okay? K-Dot had the Summer of Summers. Yeah. He got named, he's gonna do the Super Bowl in New Orleans. Obviously, Lil Wayne's from New Orleans.

Yeah. You got cash money, you got no limit, so you got Juve, you got 504, you got Master P, you got Birdman, you got all that. What was your take when you heard that K. Dot was gonna be headlining the Super Bowl halftime show? I thought it was dope.

I didn't put two and two together about the whole New Orleans thing until I actually heard Wayne comment on it. And it was crazy because Wayne really don't comment on nothing. No, he doesn't. So when he did, I was like, damn, he really took that personal, not in a bad way, but that affected him. And I'm like, dang, maybe they should've tried

to incorporate a Wayne or something like that. You know what I mean? Or just, I don't know, it just made me look at it a little bit differently, but I can never take somebody else's moment from them either. You know what I mean? It's just one of them situations where you just, to me I just look at everything. I'm like dang, that's crazy.

Yeah, I think Lil Wayne is looking like damn, I mean how much consideration you gave him. Because when I look at it with, I think what happened is that the Super Bowl when it was in LA, and you had Dre, and you had Snoop. So now everybody assume, if the Super Bowl, when it was in LA, and you had Dre, and you had Snoop. So now everybody assume, if the Super Bowl come to your hometown, and you got a hot group from there.

That makes sense. But when it was in Atlanta, they had Maroon 5. Maroon 5 ain't from Atlanta. You know what we got down in the A. And what none of them up there. We didn't even get Gladys Knight, I don't think. They could have had TI out there. You got TI, Luda, Jeezy, Future. Yeah, yeah, we didn't get glad I don't think You got tea I looted Jesus

Baby face yeah, no, no for real I mean usher ended up get his come up last year in Vegas But so I think that's the thing I think the thing is that and we know what Wayne is. Yeah, Wayne Wayne is Wayne So hey, hey, no, hey, there will be there will be no there'll be no easy, there'll be no baby, no baby, there'll be no slander going on, because we know what this man is. But I think K. Dot took it in some type of way because he said, ain't nobody really congratulate me, but Nas. And I think Wayne took it as a shot,

he said, look, let the sleeping dog lie. Let the giant stay where he is, because I don't want no problems, don't nobody really want no problems. Yeah. Yeah, not with Weezy. Yeah, that was crazy because it's like, you know, I'm always the type of person

where it's like, you should be able to speak your mind. So K. Dot feel like ain't nobody step up. Like, you know, he can say that. And Wayne can say what, you know, that he's pissed about not being there. Yeah, two things can be true. Yeah, exactly. K-Dot didn't get the love and support

that he thought he would get from the community, and Weezer could feel that he was slighted because he's from New Orleans, he's a mainstay, and he should've been getting an opportunity. Now that's not to say that Kendrick won't invite him up and do something, that's not to say that that won't happen. But I think Wayne is probably thinking like, bro, I'm big enough to headline this thing.

Oh, hell yeah. He's definitely thinking that. And he's thinking that he knows the right people, that them people didn't look out for him. So he's not even looking at Kendrick crazy. It's like, what's up with the people who put this together? Wiring y'all, you know. Looking out for me.

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And you had to... What the hell? Oh, you're talking about when it went for black and yellow. Yeah, because Wade recorded green in you. I erased that from my memory, dog. I was like, yeah, that was the 90s. I never have it. I erased that.

If the Steelers get back to the Super Bowl, you cool to do another black and yellow? They can just use that one. I never have it. I erased that. If the Steelers get back to the Super Bowl, you cool to do another black and yellow? They could just use that one. Just run that one back up. They don't want you to update that thing with the new- That song went number one when they was scoring all them touchdowns.

I think we went undefeated that season. Yeah, y'all, I don't know. No, I think y'all left for like three or four games. Oh yeah? Yeah. It was like the last couple games We we didn't lose for like ten games Yo and black and yellow went number one. We went to the Super Bowl. Yeah, but if we go again

Nah, because like the way that shit is today like how tick tock and all that stuff is it just bring the old So you're gonna bring it back. Yeah Bring that old one back. What did that song do for we is? Is that the song that put you on the map? Yeah, that song put me on the map. That song made me a household name. That was my first number one. Yeah, so that one proved that I could perform

on a mainstream level and sell singles because not only had I had mixtape success and had I done really well for myself, like independently and on touring, but now I got a freaking number one record. So it's like, oh, this dude is on fire right now. What made you make this, what made you do that song? Because if I'm not mistaken, I think I heard you say the song was about a car.

It's about a car and it's about my jewelry. Okay. And it was about being from Pittsburgh cuz like even you see right here. Yeah, my logo is black and yellow Yeah, so it's like hometown pride, right and that was my main thing I was like if I'm gonna get a single I Can rap about whatever the hell I want to I was like but I want my first thing would it be about like where I'm from I just thought it was the right thing to do. It was like some hip hop shit to do, you know what I mean? That's classic hip hop shit, just rap where you from. So that was my first single and that's what I did.

Steelers this year. Russ goes there, they doing good. They flicking that joint. They going to the Super Bowl this year? Hell yeah, he's fucking crazy out there, bro. You gonna be in attendance? Fucking right. Hell yeah, I'm gonna be waving the towel

like this. Mike Tomlin had never had a losing season. And, hold on, did Cowboys take your song and made We Them Boys? They did. But they didn't take it. They just started scoring your song and made We Them Boys? They did. But they didn't take it. They just started scoring touchdowns and saying We Them Boys.

So I'm like, all right, cool, now I got two anthems. But they not. What, them boys? Yeah, they not. They are. No, they not. I mean, like, kinda. You see their record?

All right. Hey, we ain't saying that. I need them to score more touchdowns every time they score the song gets played. Did you see AB Antonio Brown said he would come back and play for the Steelers for free. They broached that subject to Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin just said he'd turn the walk off the stage. You ever met AB? Not in person.

Would you want him to come back and play for the Steelers? He's an amazing athlete. Yeah, I don't know after a couple years away from the game, I don't know if he can come back and pick up where he left off. He might be one of those special motherfuckers just like never, you know what I mean? Always in shape, always ready to go. Yeah, like drinks Pepsi before they go,

do athletic shit, right? Where's Khalifa day 12 12? Yeah. Yep. What's today? They have the a couple of days after that's coming up. Yeah So this video is gonna drop a couple of days before what is that? What does that mean for you? It's pretty dope to me because my granddad got me that day. He's not here with us no more. He passed away last year. But he went to the city and told them

that they should have a West Galifah Day, and they worked it out. So that's really significant to me. And then it's really just about getting stoned and chilling at this point. I mean, have a city to back you and give you your own day. That has to, I mean as a kid growing up in Pittsburgh, did you think something like this was possible? Nah.

And even like now I don't be tripping on Wiz Khalifa Day. I probably should make more of a big deal about it. I will eventually, but like now I just leave it up to people. But as time goes on, I think I'll embrace it more and turn it into something that the world sees. So it's still in its beginning stages. So 1212, are you trying to get 1212, not just for Pittsburgh, but they're gonna be other states,

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See you again. Did you think it would be what it became? I just checked it has 6.4 billion views on your YouTube page. Yeah. YouTube paid good, I know that thing. Them checks looking good, huh? They are. Ah!

When you were doing this song, did you have any idea that this song would be this? Hell no, not even close. I had no idea. None whatsoever. Yeah, no. No clue. So they ask you to do this song. Yeah. And you go into the

obviously, you know, Paul Walker has passed. Right. You know, there's going to be significance to this song. You do understand that. But to... It was right when he passed. Yes. So he was like filming for the movie and they were like, something happened, we need to do like a whole little redirection and you're gonna be a part of that. So they're like, this is the last scene of the movie. They're like, he's in the movie but we're like generating his face on a couple scenes. Yes.

And this is going to be one of them where it's going to be him like riding off into the sunset, but it's going to represent his departure. Yes. I was like, god damn. So I'm like, you know what I mean? But they were like, they told me that they had so many other writers on the song, too.

That was like, I don't know. I can't even name all of them because I don't think it's legal. But there were so many other writers on the song and artists that they wanted to be on the song. But by the time the movie had come out, it was like a week before the movie had come out, they were like, we need to finish the song

and we're gonna shoot the video and we just want you and Charlie Puth on there. It was like, everybody else we don't want. So you need to write another verse. So I just quickly you and Charlie Puth on there. It was like everybody else we don't want, so you need to write another verse. So I just quickly came in there, I watched the scene for the second, because I already did the first verse just based off of what they told me it was gonna be like.

And for the second verse, they were like, okay, watch the scene, and then write it based off of that. So I watched the scene, I just wrote my verse real quick, recorded it, we shot the video the next week, and then it comes out with the movie and shit, and it's just supposed to be a soundtrack song. But as soon as it got on the radio,

I think, I don't know how long it took to go number one, but it went number one, and it stayed number one for like 13 weeks. 12 consecutive, it peaked at number one on the billboards, Hot 100 for 12 consecutive weeks, received Diamond 14 times Platinum platinum certification earn three Grammy nominations the most stream tracked today on Spotify Reaching number one and 95 country with worldwide. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I never knew that I never knew it was gonna do all of that at all

so Your only So you never met Paul Walker? No, I didn't. So your only time ever seeing Paul Walker was that video when they showing you clips of the movie. And so they're asking you, cause you already said you had already wrote one verse

and they ask you to come back to write another verse as they showing you of him driving off in. Right, yeah,, just departing. And like, yeah, like you said, I hadn't met him before. And the way that I wrote the first verse was just based off of a conversation that we had when they were like, this is the vibe of it and this is where we want you to go. So I had to like think about personal experiences as well as you know what was going on at the time just to make it all make sense like you know what I'm saying like because I didn't want it to feel too like forced

or anything like that like I wanted it to be real I wanted it to be and that's what surprised me too because it was so damn real. I'm like this shit is real as these are like real-ass bars like you know Yeah, they're telling you Did you feel pressure because they're explaining to you? This is a movie This is a an iconic movie with I think at the time Maybe it was like on the fifth or sixth bit well when he passed away, so you understand What's at stake here.

You understand who Paul Walker is and his character, and he's beloved. Yeah. And they come to you, and you just look at the scene. You had conversation with them. You had already wrote a verse. And you look at the scene of him driving that car off. And you get the writing.

How much pressure did you feel? I didn't feel any pressure at all Cuz I think everybody You know, it's unfortunate that Paul Walker Lost his life and his legacy is always gonna live on I met his family and stuff like that But what do they think about the song? They love it, they loved it. From day one, they loved it. But I think like, See You Again connects

because you can tell like everybody goes through those losses and you can feel that in those verses. And I've taken losses and you know, I've felt, you know what I mean, personally what that feels like. So to be able to channel that through the music, tell his story, help his legacy live on, and also connect with other people

who go through similar things, you know, that was my main goal and that was what I knew I could do just through my personal experiences. And I'm glad that the world, you know, gravitated towards it like that. What did that song do for weasel? That song turned me into a global superstar.

Yeah, black and yellow, household name, see you again, global superstar. Is when you do a set is that the song that you always close with? I don't close with it. You don't close with it? Yeah, but that's how you know we getting close to the end. Okay. Yeah, but that's how you know we getting close to the end. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Somebody always said don't close with your biggest song.

Okay. So, yeah, we not gonna do that. Now, you can confirm or you can say I don't got no comments. Now, I read and I researched team Little Wayne, Chris Brown, 50 Cent, Eminem, Wale, were all originally supposed to be on the song. 50 Cent, see you again, was originally developed for Em. I can see that.

But yes, all of those names, definitely, they were all on there. You know what, Wiz? You know, a lot of times where, you know, like this song was written for this artist, and this song was written for that artist, and I had this song in mind for this. And when you hear it, I don't know if somebody could have done it justice like you did that song.

That was, that might have been, that was, that was, that was your, that was your calling. That was your purpose, that song. Bro, whatever God did, he was, he knew exactly what he was doing. He knows what he's doing. But that was proof that he knows what he's doing for sure. Yeah, that was, so from there, obviously now, you a household name, black and yellow, household name, everybody in America knows you.

See you again, everybody everybody in America knows you. See you again, everybody in the world knows you. Now there's a windfall of monetary and fame and adulation. So now, what does Wiz do? What does Wiz buy? What is the one thing like, I get whatever I want now. Let your boy go get that right there. Shit. I don't know. I always had money. See you again brought in a different type of money. It did, but I was like, you know, I always had money. You didn't do it, you didn't like, damn, I got the number one song on billboards for three months. No, no, no, I didn't do that.

I was making smarter business decisions at that point like invested in Yeah, I was invested. I was like I went on tour that year So we definitely put money into a tour and right made money off of that song right in a huge song, right? I made more money. That's what I did with my money. Yeah But I did see what you say in a video that you say you don't like cyber trucks. What is about cyber? They're ugly But I did see what you say in a video that you say you don't like Cybertrucks. What is about Cybertrucks you don't like? They're ugly. They're ugly as shit. Anybody who says they're not ugly is fucking lying. Can't say I disagree with you, Wizz. Bro, that shit's ugly. It's probably cool as hell on the inside and that's too, like, I'm like not getting in the car.

Because I don't want to be like, oh my God, this shit's cool as fuck in here. And did you get one of those cars, huh? No, yeah, exactly. Because I could get one, but it's so ugly. What's the best gift Wiz has ever given someone? The best gift I've ever given someone? A child. That really don't take a whole lot, Wiz. We'll get back to that in a minute.

What have you learned about money? Because you mentioned that you've always had money and I see you invested in this company and I think the company's worth over a billion dollars. You invested in the, what is this, Gen. You got Khalifa Kush. So obviously you're doing right. It's not so much,, I mean you got jury, but you understand that one day

Wiz ain't gonna be able to rap. Right. Well no, no I'll always be able to rap. You gonna be like Big Jagger. George Clinton is 83 years old, he's still on stage smoking weed, directing his band. What's the guy, Rolling Stones,

he's up there too. Oh, what's that boy name? Yeah, but they gotta be in their late 70s with. Yeah, but George Clinton looked good. Yeah. I like seeing George Clinton on stage. But how did you learn about money? Yeah.

And because there've been a lot of people make a lot of money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It ain't how much you make, it's how much you keep. Mm-hmm. How did you learn? Did you see from others, a wise man learn from others mistakes? A fool has to learn from his own. Mm-hmm. Did you see some of the pitfalls that some of the people that were in your position had gone through and you're like, I'm not gonna make those mistakes? I think it's a combination of wanting good advice and having good advice.

Because a lot of people don't want somebody to tell them what to do with their money or how to manage it and shit like that. I'll spend it whenever I want, blah, blah, blah. But me, I might have some crazy-ass dreams, but I'd be like, financially, does that make sense? You know what I'm saying? So like, a lot of, you know, a lot of people from our community,

a lot of n****s, they don't give a fuck about that shit. Like, they just want to buy it right away. And I had that point in my life, and luckily I made it out of that. You know what I'm saying? I was in my early 20s, and it was like, yo, if I see it, I like it, I'ma buy it. And it, you know, it just takes growth and maturity,

and some of us, we reached that point earlier than others do. But for me, I always seen my money as an opportunity to make me more money. Like even if I buy a chain, it's so I can look good. You know what I mean? Because if I'm like a bummy rapper, nobody's gonna wanna book me.

So hopefully, this however much I spent on my chain is- I'll make it back. Like because if I'm like a bummy rapper nobody's gonna want to book me right so like hopefully This however much I spent on my chain is make it back. I'll make it back. I'm gonna do some videos I'm a little cool. That's gonna. Give me some views then that's gonna sell me some tickets And then you know eventually it's just all gonna promote the brand you know what I'm saying like I'm not doing it to like be In the club or to be the coolest guy ever It's really it all goes back into something. And you know, you can buy studio equipment. There's a lot of things that you can buy that reinvest you. Will make you money.

Yeah, that'll make you money. So it's like, on top of having fun buying cars and houses and shit like that. And that's another thing. Y'all need to stop renting all them houses and shit like that. It is not cool to have a house in here and over there and over there. Get one spot, you know what I'm saying?

And own it. And own it. Save your money, bro. A lot of fools just be blowing their money on dumb shit just because they see somebody else doing it. I've never been that type of dude. I was like, yeah, spend your money. You'll be broke.

And I'll be looking real good. I make more money every year. Like, there hasn't been a year yet that I made less money than the previous year. I'm doing all right, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, I wanna keep it that way. So it's like, you gotta have good habits

and shit like that. And just stop looking at everybody else. Investing, you mentioned investing. How did you learn about investing? I learned about investing just through my business management, really. I learned that my lifestyle could make me a lot of money if I just put the money in the right places.

And there's a lot of opportunities that come up and there's a lot of things that people talk about on the low that you can get in on early before it even becomes something. If you have money, just take a little bit of that money and put it off into something that can make you a little bit more money. That 250 or 500,000 you gonna spend on a car,

invest it in something. Bruh, you'll come up so, so good in like five to seven years if it's a good, you know what I'm saying? And everything doesn't work. Everything ain't gonna hit. So you might put a little bit into this one. A little bit over there. So you just figure out what makes the most sense. Yeah, yup.

But I learned that through having good business. You gotta have the right people to ride. Yeah, yup. I had Carlos Miller, I don't know if you saw that. Yeah, I did. And he said, man, the best weed he ever had was Khalifa Kush. You wanna show the camera? It's the best weed in the world.

Camera. And this is, yeah, wait till you see how much I'm smoking. Open it up. Right here in the front. Oh, you got no magnet? Yeah, yeah, there you go, yeah. This gotta be Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Yeah This gotta be a month supply. No, I'm gonna run out in a week. Oh wait. Yeah Yeah, no, no, hello, it's like a little Christmas tree in there

Can y'all see this? Yeah, this man said it will last him a week. I'm weak thinking about it. Yes, I see you trying to knock one off and trying to shake it. Something falls in your pocket. So go ahead and take that, man. No, no, no, no. This interview will be over. You don't gotta use it now.

Let me ask you a question. So how did you, like like did you ever think that because weed used to be so taboo? Mm-hmm. I mean people have lost careers people lost, you know, not only professional careers endorsements You know jobs good job doctor lawyer whatever families going to jail Yes, I mean people in jail for weed and And now it's a multi, multi, multi-billion dollar business and everybody knew it was. As soon as the government could find a way to tax it, they're going to say, bring it on. And here you are. Did you ever think smoking weed, you could ever make money smoking weed?

I did, man. I used to make money smoking weed before he was allowed to make money smoking weed. But yeah, I think like the way weed is now, it's nothing how it was before I got in the game. Right. So I like to think that I had something to do with it. Yeah, because look, you and Snoop, you guys, I mean Snoop, I mean Snoop is as big an icon that he's one of the most recognizable faces, recognizable names, but he was able to stay true to himself. He's like, I smoke weed. What y'all want me to do, get up here and all of a sudden,

I don't smoke no more? No, I smoke. You the same way. Like bro, I smoke weed. Take it or leave it. And everybody's like, man, that's weird, man. Hey, weird be cheap, man. We cool with it.

Snoop, we cool with it. Yep, yep. Well, Snoop brought me into the game the right way. Yeah. He gave me the pass, and I think just him being such a OG and like real, you know what I'm saying, solid individual, he wanted to see me, you know, take this as far as I can by being myself.

He never was like, yo, Wiz is the next Snoop Dogg. But if you think of weed, you're gonna think of Wiz and Snoop and like Bob Marley. You know what I mean? But that's a really good company to be in. And all around the world, just to go to Thailand and see weed shops on every corner and just to be sitting in a restaurant in France and they'd be like yeah go ahead light up

I'm like dang bro like we came a long-ass way man and that's what it was really all about to me it's not about like flexing or you know I love pot you know what I'm saying I don't even try to get the whole world high but I just enjoy the benefits of it and the more that people just see the good side of it And if you can smoke it and enjoy it and hell yeah Yeah sure It's like you know, it's like LASIK Just wake up seeing better, bro.

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