Club Shay Shay - Coco Gauf’s historic win & the shade and Brittany Renner & Kevin Gates are over | Humble Baddies

Episode Date: June 10, 2025

Sharelle & Alexis react to Coco’s Gauf historic win over the weekend and how the opponent tried to throw shade in the press conference, Brittany Renner & Kevin Gates are already divorced... and we finish it up with some Humble Baddies mail and much more!  Timeline:01:38 - Introduction 10:00 - Coco Gauf24:26 - Brittney Renner & Kevin Gates47:30 - Humble Baddie questions59:11 - Humble Baddies mail(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:43 hi, I'm a bad lady. Hi, queen. How you doing, Ms. Sherelle? I am amazing. You know, it's one o'clock in the morning where I'm at. So I took me a little nap. You're holding it down. Good, good. I'm holding it down. Listen, it's a holiday over here.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Yeah, what's the holiday? It's a Muslim holiday. I don't know what holiday it is, but it's a Muslim. It's been going on all week. What's the holiday? It's a Muslim holiday. It's a Muslim holiday. It's a Muslim holiday.
Starting point is 00:03:00 It's a Muslim holiday. It's a Muslim holiday. It's a Muslim holiday. It's a Muslim holiday. It's a Muslim holiday. It's a Muslim holiday. It's a Muslim holiday. It's a Muslim holiday. It's a holiday over here. Yeah, what's the holiday? Um, it's a Muslim holiday. I don't know what holiday it is, but it's a Muslim. It's been going on all week, but... It's...
Starting point is 00:03:11 No, don't get me to start, um, see. I don't want to be disrespectful. Yeah. But I celebrate it. Yeah, I had me some drinks, took me a little nap, and I'm up and ready for night camp. I mean, first night is not anybody's night. Look, I'm a baddie's podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:27 My ass over here talking about night camp. It should be night camp part two, the way we... We are capping, you know, the evenings and then... Right. ...night festivities. How have you been, my love? Girl, um, just really, this externship has been really interesting. Over the past weekend, I was challenged to make a dessert and something that I could
Starting point is 00:03:58 leave once I'm done with my ex-externship with this restaurant. So, shout out to them. Once I leave, then it's, you know, something there that has my name and signature on there. And so I proposed a bread pudding with the blueberry compote and used ingredients that we have already on hand. And it came out phenomenal and the owner loved it. And I sold my first one during brunch. So it was just, you know, it's just an exciting feat for me
Starting point is 00:04:30 and just a passion just ignited and I'm so happy. And girl, I've been holding down a 4.15 GPA on President's List. And I'm just on the last, you know, couple of weeks of this and I'm done. I mean, I can't believe this journey is here. So I'm just proud. It went by so fast.
Starting point is 00:04:47 It's... No, it's crazy because, you know, I was actually in culinary school while we were filming. And so while we were filming the show. And so like, yeah, so like to be juggling all these jobs and all these, you know, passions and really trying to show up, be a mother and also just like a friend.
Starting point is 00:05:08 It just shows my resilience and shows like my, just my energy behind that we can accomplish anything that we set our mind to. And I just am grounded in just this energy and this faith of just really just accomplishment. So I'm happy, you know. I'm proud of myself and here we are. Yeah, I'm proud of you too. I cannot wait to come back home so you can cook me a full course meal.
Starting point is 00:05:34 We have some girl talk and I just stuffed my face. Come to COSLEX, make it... Yeah, but you know, I need you to get that passport and hit that global entry and come back home, okay? And that's what I need from a girl so I can give you some love and some warm embrace and... I don't wanna come back. I don't wanna come back. You know what? No bullshit. Why you playing?
Starting point is 00:05:56 Find me some land out there because I see Kalisa out there buying a land. You know, I need some garden space. Can I get some garden space that just looks at some ocean or maybe the mountain? I don't know, something, something. Help me out, okay? I need to know. I need to go to the land, okay? Lex, I love it here.
Starting point is 00:06:16 It's like, I just have been, I'm just a queen here. I don't even have to look this way. I know that's right. As you should. As you should. As you should. I just press one button and everything is taken care of. Which you deserve and I'm happy for you and keep pushing that button because that's what we need. Okay. Thank you, my love. Yes, I'm here for it.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I've been good. I have one more week here and then go to Paris for the concert. So I'm going to see Beyonce. How long on the flight is that? From here to Paris. It's like six hours, but I leave like it. Yeah, that makes sense. It's a red-eye flight, so... Yeah, that's perfect.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Not bad at all. Yeah, it makes no sense. I'm in back this way. Exactly. So I just set, send it my stage. Yeah, that's perfect. Not bad at all. Yeah. It makes no sense. I'm in back this way. Exactly. So I just said, send it my state and I'll just leave from here to Paris and then I'll be back. Good. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:07:14 And then I'll be back. And then, you know. Yeah. I love a long, big steps type of thing. Yes. I think it's a good thing. You know why it's a great thing? Because to be respectful of your household and their household.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Oh, everyone in our stage of life has their own going on. You know that that's what we attract. That's what, um, we receive and what we give to. So respectfully, I don't want anybody coming here telling me, look, you know, I'm sorry, I'm gonna come up in here and change some stuff up. And I'm like, no, this is what I bring to the table. This is who I am.
Starting point is 00:07:53 And I respect you on your side because of that. You know what I'm saying? And if you establish yourself somewhere else, that's where your essence is, that's where your vibe is, that's where your foundation is, that's where your family is. That's where your foundation is. That's where your family is. That's where your work, your livelihood is. And we can, you know, I love that fact that it's like, absence makes the heart grow fonder.
Starting point is 00:08:14 So it just keep me curious, you know what I mean? So at the same time, you got your... ...job, you got your... ...existence in a different city, and whomever else, so do they. And so like respectfully, look, we'll see each other in passing, crossing and pass. I feel like it's just more fun that way. It's so much fun. I love it here. I love it for you too. But other than that, traveling, I have some exciting news. I'm
Starting point is 00:08:42 about to launch my weighted blanket line. It'll be coming out soon. It's called Stillness Blanket. So a lot of people know I suffer from PTSD and anxiety. So my sleep pattern is just off. So without my weighted blanket, I don't sleep good. So I was like, I need to come out with my own line. I know that's true.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And just, you know, just embrace it. So I was like, I need to come out with my own line. I know that's true. And just, you know, just embrace it. So I put a little tweet out there and I told people, you would be amazed how many people sleep with weighted blankets. Use weighted blankets to sleep. Athletes, children who suffer from anxiety, adults. So I'm excited about that. I remember you telling me about that a little bit ago, and I'm just proud of you that it came to fruition and now it's... You know, it's a genuine plonie.
Starting point is 00:09:35 When you say weighted blanket, is it, are we able to travel with it? You can. So it's different sizes. I have a 10 pounds, 12 pounds, and 15 pounds. But you can, because the kids that might come in, it comes with a little travel case. But it's not... You can't take it on a... I don't think you can take it on a blanket.
Starting point is 00:09:59 It's a little heavy, but... Yeah. Just take it on a long distance blanket. You know what I mean? A home away from home. You want to snuggle. You want to be comfortable. You want that nice hug from that weighted blanket. You know what I mean? Look at me. We selling them already, you know what I'm saying? Exactly. We have to cover flies. You know what I mean? Gonna get that.
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Starting point is 00:10:35 She went to Vegas with her husband. They live in their best life. I sent her a message. I was like, Ashley, you and Phil are starting to look alike now. Y'all been together too long. Yeah. Just saying over time, you start looking like your significant other, especially if you've grown up together, you start sounding alike,
Starting point is 00:10:56 having those mannerisms, and very much, you know, just a lot of similarities. So shout out to Phil and Ashley for her twinning in. Yes. So we're going to get into our first topic. Shout out our humble baddie of the week, go to our girl Coco Golf. She won the French Open setting the record. She just made history by winning the French Open. But while we're celebrating, some folks out here are throwing shade. So we're gonna talk about why Black women wins get minimized and how Coco continues to rise with grace under pressure.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Did you see what her opponent had to say? I did. I'm an avid tennis spectator. I like to go to the Miami Open. I've been to the French Open and I've been to, I've been also in London as well. So like, I love tennis. I've always been a fan, obviously, of Serena, Dinas, Coco, just all of us in our essence, you know. It's one, especially being in Paris, in France or whatever, it is a very bougie, snobby, you know, preppy sport. And, you know, it's an adjustment.
Starting point is 00:12:14 So one, the fact that we have our good sister in there showing up and showing it out and really being professional, but she's also young too, right? So, I look at it like she is holding her own, and I'm so proud of her. Now, with her opponent said, um, I know she did backpedal and now say, um, it was very much like she's apologizing, but she stood on, she was very... emotional, her hair were wet, but she definitely was like, you know, blaming on wind conditions and X, Y, Z.
Starting point is 00:12:46 But when you're in a competitive sport such as tennis and say, you know, it's an outdoor sport and the fact that you're up against your opponent under the same conditions, it is not necessarily like you have an advantage. She has the advantage. She's both there. You know, this is a competitor. The score outside. So it is fair game and it is a competition at the end of the day. And the best person who is going to be the best competitor is going to win.
Starting point is 00:13:14 And Coco 100% did and shame on her opponent for really not giving her her props and really, you know, pushing her forward. But I commend Coco on her response of just saying, you know, I know she's unbelievable. She's on. I know what it's like to compete, but you know, it is Coco's time. Let her thrive. Let her shine. And you go girl. Exactly. I'm so proud of Coco. She's only 21 years old, already a champion.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Just 21. Just 21. She just carried herself with so much grace and confidence, and you can't teach that. It's like, God-given. So, shout out to her for the poke-on. I feel like, you know, she's also had some amazing mentors on the way too. Like, I just reposted this little meme of her.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Like, she went to the games when she was younger, and then she's kind of behind Venus, William. So the fact that there's role models who always carry grace, who always work for themselves, and who work to like be competitive, but don't take no shit. I feel like, you know, they put them on a pedestal, and it's been amazing to witness and watch over these decades. So shout out to Coco. She is on her way.
Starting point is 00:14:24 And, you know, she a humble baddie. Yes. My question. Do we as a culture sometimes put too much expectations on a young Black star? I do feel like we do sometimes. Just because I feel like it's rooted in history of just our struggle to have a name for ourselves and to be rooted in excellence.
Starting point is 00:14:50 We are marking our territory in so many realms, whether it's sports, business, entertainment, all these realms, and we've always been the most underpaid. We've always been the most, you know, looked over. And so you have to look at it when you're on a stage like that, and especially in tennis, where it's you versus you. It's your good day versus your bad day. Whether you're going to opponent it or not,
Starting point is 00:15:13 it's a mental game, it's a mental space, and you have to be in your shape. So her discipline is awesome. I've actually, in a lot of, we have to be the best, because, you know, athletically, we are some of the best athletes and we are just very much intelligent. So it's a lot of pressure for us in general. And then especially now with the influx of popularity of women's sports, it's even more
Starting point is 00:15:38 on a trajectory of now we're still getting, we're getting meals, we're getting paid just how men are getting paid. Well, it's getting coverage and insurance and partners and spouses and, you know, we're still in Pride Month. So the fact that, you know, I look at the WNBA, for example, they have helped out with insurance and health coverage for partners and spouses of same sex. And it's pivotal in sports in general, just the fact that they are our opportunities. The fact is ladies and gentlemen are, you know, in the forefront. Yes, there is pressure, but we would, pressure produces diamonds. And just so you know, we are worth
Starting point is 00:16:20 living in every sport that we, we accomplished. So it is hard, you know? But at the same time, we can handle it. That's true. I feel the same way. I feel like we expect them to be... I feel like we expect them to be perfect on the court and interviews with their image, everything. But they're still growing up in front of us. So we got to give them space to be able to be a human. Like, we just put too much on them at an early age
Starting point is 00:16:44 and it's not right. I agree with you, Sherelle, especially, like, even our children, they're athletic. So, like, we see the pressure... with parents now, with kids that are in Little League, and look like 13, 12, 11 years old. You know, it's just, I think it's just a sports thing in general of pushing your kid,
Starting point is 00:17:05 or whether it's just being the best. We are in America. I know for a fact that we are definitely the ones that are like land of opportunity. We're very sports driven. We're very much like competitive. And, you know, it can get that out of hand in mental health. So I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Yes. Why do people struggle to give black women full credit? Because I felt like during, you know, when her opponent, you know, said what she said, it was all excuses. Instead of saying, you know, a win is a win. Congratulate her. You were making every excuse. You said she didn't play her best, but she beat you. Why is it so hard and so much a struggle to give black women full credit? We are just, because we're, I think Malcolm X said it best when we are the most underrepresented and also disrespected people on earth, you know, as the black female. Yet we are the, we have the most homes that we've owned, we're the most educated, and
Starting point is 00:18:05 we also are some of the most spending marketing dollars, as well as being entrepreneurs. So at the end of the day, to me, it's always going to, the cream always rises to the top. So we are a force. I mean, I look at Oprah Winfrey, for example, I saw the Forbes list of self-made female billionaires and she is up there. And so kudos to her for really, you know, exemplifying what it means to be in your essence of who we are. And, you know, shout out to all of our CEOs and our boss women and our humble baddies across the globe, you know, we are forced to reckon with. And I'm a proud black woman. I know you are too. And you know, we are just sitting in our essence of our queen. You know, as you said earlier, you're a queen
Starting point is 00:18:58 and that's real. And the fact that we have to be reminded of who we are, we know who we are, but like, we don't get it. It comes from a struggle of having to birth slave owners' children and be the first OBGYNs. And then it takes, if we were lactating, then we're also breastfeeding, and we're nursing, we're caring for, and then we're also taking care of men that are from war.
Starting point is 00:19:23 We were the first nurses, and we were the first, everything that you can imagine. So, you know, it is our time to shine. And, you know, we wanna have it the hardest because we are that essence. We birth tribes and it is real. And I also feel like we make everything look too easy. We make everything look too easy.
Starting point is 00:19:44 So when you walk in a room with confidence, there's always gonna be somebody who needs to downplay your shine to make themselves feel better. So it's like, no matter what, we're always gonna get some type of something, some type of hate, hate-a-ration, some type of knowing something. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:03 But I feel like- We all go with exceptions to the norm, right? Yes. I feel like she handled it with grace. She did what she needed to do. How she responded, that's my next thing. I feel like she- Your response.
Starting point is 00:20:17 People were looking for her to respond, but I feel like she shouldn't have. Her response was winning. That's the biggest flex. So, she didn't have to address the shade. Her success is all talk. Yeah, I agree. Very professional. And you're right. Her win was all that needs to be talked about. And low-key, silence is very powerful, too.
Starting point is 00:20:40 You know what I mean? She didn't have to address it because it is her time. It is her time to shine, and it was not about the opponent that did not win. So kudos for Coco for standing in this, showing up, being a better competitor, winning, taking home that prize, showing out. She wrote, she manifest this too. She showed in her one of her posts that she was like, I will win, I will win. So she's showing the power of manifestation too, and working hard. So, yeah, I'm with you with that, Sherelle.
Starting point is 00:21:11 SHERELLE DRAKE-JONES-TAYLOR Exactly. My question to you, Lex, I know I've experienced it. Have you ever experienced someone minimizing your win? LESLIE LITTLE-PAYNE Of course, every day. I feel like we're in, not only in competition with others, but ourselves. And unfortunately, it'd be our own people. You know what I mean? I just, it's tough at times, but at the same time, that resilience is there and it's embedded
Starting point is 00:21:37 in us. I look at it like, I mean, we see it in friendships, we see it in partnerships, we see it in business. And, you know, it's just like, I mean, I had to deal with that a long time before I even got married. Oh, you're just the baby mama, or you're just behind the scenes, or who are you anyway? And, you know, it comes a time when it is your time to shine. And we would.
Starting point is 00:22:05 And it's just about patience and really just staying the course and really just following your heart and your dreams and anything is possible. That's true. I feel the same way. What about you? Yeah, I feel the same way all the time in business, really. In life, you know, people love to say, oh, it's easy for you. But don't, but they don't understand.
Starting point is 00:22:25 They don't see the grind behind the scenes. I've learned not to even engage in things like that because they don't know what we've been through, you know, how hard it is. We may, like I said before, we make it look so easy, but don't minimize what we've been through just because we make it look easy. Yeah, because it's like an iceberg.
Starting point is 00:22:51 That's underneath the surface. OK, you only see just a little bit. All right. But there's so much going on underneath. We are very hands on. We have our hands in so many different pots and we take care of so many people. And we also want to bring others in too. So that's a lot of energy, a lot of, you know, just, um, you know, really just trying to be helpful at all times.
Starting point is 00:23:15 So yes, the picture is like, a pretty face, a beautiful body. Oh, she's this, she's kept, she's this and that and whatever. Nah, there's actually a lot going on behind all this. I'm just, you know. Yeah. So our advice to you all humble baddies, they gonna talk whether you win or lose. So you might as well keep winning.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Don't pass it to the haters. Yeah, true. And the takeaway from this, don't explain your excellence to people committed to misunderstanding your shot. I know that's right. Thank you for that show. I heard.
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Starting point is 00:28:00 So, you know, a couple of weeks ago, she said that they got married. She was super excited, which I was shocked because my last thing I knew he was still married to Draco. But now she's talking about that. So let me read it. Brittany Renner and Kevin Gates took a fast ride down the aisle and even a fastest trip to divorce court. We're unpacking whirlwind relationships, public love, spiritual healing, and whether following in her heart is always the best move.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Because she did state it, you know, she don't regret it. She followed her heart. Is there a such thing as moving too fast in love? I don't know. My thing is there's double their sword. One, I don't condone anybody moving on while you're in a situation, a marriage. I think that's a little tacky. But at the same time, I feel like when people are ready in their own way to people, do you?
Starting point is 00:29:07 I mean, I don't know how Islam works as far as I know. I do know that you can have multiple wives. So even if he is still married legally to Jerika, he can have multiple unions and marriages, as long as you take care of the wives and the households, meaning the children and everything else. So I do like it. She did very vocally say she followed her heart and she did. And it was very much a public rendezvous.
Starting point is 00:29:41 And the fact that, you know, and it's embarrassing, you know, at the same time that it was a quick union and then a quick divorce, but at the same time she stated the facts that in Islam, it's a 90-day waiting period. When you do have a marriage, there's consensual acknowledgement of that. And then obviously you have to consummate the marriage. So she could be with child, which in actuality, he would have to care for, and her and this child as well. So, and I love the fact that she mentioned that, you know, you still are not supposed to entertain other people, you should try to reconcile. I thought that was pretty dope.
Starting point is 00:30:24 But at the same time, we are here to have the human experience of love and failure. We're supposed to enjoy one another. We're supposed to live amongst ourselves and we're supposed to choose. And everything in life we do is a lesson. Whether it's a blessing, a lesson, they'll do better. So I feel I'm a lover. Y'all know that already. I'm very much a lover and follow your heart. But there's ways of doing things. I do not condone cheating.
Starting point is 00:31:01 I do not condone adultery. I do not condone lying. None of that kind of stuff. So I also say, you lose them high, you get them. So she don't know a lot of their history. I don't know personally, but at the same time, she is vocal about their marriage. And so they were in a partnership and here we are. So I don't know. I mean, this is a tough situation. It gets worse when there's children involved
Starting point is 00:31:29 in other households and things like that. But, you know what I mean? There's a lot of people who have, you know, married quickly and are still together. I know a few couples actually that met one night stands or the first week got married quickly and are still together. So it's all about timing too.
Starting point is 00:31:47 And if you find your person, then find your person and ball out because we only have one life to live. And it comes with controversy, obviously, being public figures. So that's all I can speak on with it as far as that is concerned. Lydia, your thoughts? I mean, I respect Brittany for speaking her truth, but phew, these days. Listen, that's not a marriage, that's a trial period.
Starting point is 00:32:14 It ain't even a marriage. But as far as I'm saying... Benefits didn't even kick in yet. Benefits didn't even kick in yet. Yeah, what is it like? It sounds cute. It sounds cute, you know, following your heart or whatever, but your heart can want something your mind knows better about. So, I mean, love is beautiful and everything,
Starting point is 00:32:36 but it has to be backed by wisdom at the end of the day. So, just going off of following your heart, you have to think more. It can't be enough. It ain't enough. Yeah, you're right. Because it's like, you get caught up in the fairy tale and that beautiful side of it,
Starting point is 00:32:54 and then you look up, there's like, there's bills, there's households, there's emotions, there's nuances and things you're discovering about somebody. And do I really wanna do with... And then the third is, do I really want to deal with that? And then the third is, do I really like this person? And, oh, they snore or they weren't doing this. You really don't know somebody.
Starting point is 00:33:12 It is definitely... Butterflies leave once you start, man. It's a leap of faith, though. It's a leap of faith. But like, look, we're gonna decide to try to make this grow every day. Like, I gotta learn something about you every day. Um, yeah, it can be, that can be tough. Some people felt like it was, some people felt like it was true love,
Starting point is 00:33:30 and some people felt like it was clout. I think it was a little bit of both. I think it was a little bit of both. So, you know, because social media amplifies everything. When two public figures link up, it adds pressure for you to move fast and short. We know because we're both public figures, but I feel like it was pressured a lot due to them being publicly on social media a lot. Yeah. I mean, and you getting added people all up in your business too, at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Like, you know, it does almost ring a bell of, I know when you say cloud as a thing, but you know, sometimes you want your date to be at the two, you know, somebody you want to share these memories with. I mean, it kind of poses the question of do you really, you know, want your relationship to be public? You know? You know what I mean? Because you would never, ever see me in a public relationship. Ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Ever? Ever, ever? Forever. The only thing y'all will see is what watch he wearing today. Whether it's the Richard Milly with one of his VPs. Period. That's funny. The custom friends bracelet. You would never see me in a public relationship ever.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Yeah, yeah. I feel like the people in your circle know who you with. You know what I'm saying? They know how you moving. That is most important. It's not a assumption because they will eat you up, spit you out, throw you away, regurgitate you and stomp on you.
Starting point is 00:35:08 So they, you know, it's not a lot of love with people who don't want to see you to be, want to see you happy and everyone has an opinion on your relationship. Being, I would prefer a private situation too. Like, obviously if we're public figures and we get caught out by the paparazzi or, you know, people with their phones out, that's a different story. But like at the end of the day, I like to be speculated about, I like to be, keep that sense of privacy because, you know, once you walk outside of these doors, you're basically, you know, you're for everyone, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:35:43 And you do want to keep to the sacredness of a partnership for sure. I know you do too. That's something we don't care about. Yeah. Yeah, because peace is different when people don't have access to your personal life. Some things are sacred and it feels... It feels good. That's a bar, I like that.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Yeah, it was a bar. It was a bar. It was a bar. Yeah, man. It's a bar. I like that. You gotta keep everything. And I learned that from, you know, previous situations, previous relationships. Like, it just feels so much better when you're just low-key about everything.
Starting point is 00:36:25 You don't have to let the world have access to everything. So they want to ruin it. They're not looking for the best. They're not making sure you're happy. And they don't know what's going on behind closed doors. You know what I mean? We have to deal with life, real life, and blending and who are we and growing with somebody and getting to know them from a healed space. So yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:36:49 That's true. So our advice for people who feel like they have to expose everything in these relationships, it has to be public, move smart, protect your peace, and remember, real love don't need an audience. Okay, cheers to that. Cheers to that. Cheers to that. Look, I got my water. I got that too. Our next thing. So I was on social media, Lex, and, you know, a lot of us have been,
Starting point is 00:37:20 have been witnesses to it. And I seen something and I was like, this is something good. And we did get some mail about this same situation, but it was talking about, you know, a 10-year girlfriend versus a six-month wife. Mm-hmm. What, like, what is it called? I forgot what they call it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:40 It's the name for that. It's a name for someone who's been a girlfriend for a long time. The first person was practicing. Yeah, they was prepping him up. I forgot the name. I'm going to hit back to me, but I was scrolling through social media and there were so many things about it, so many people talking about it.
Starting point is 00:37:57 So we're talking about, it may ruffle some feathers because a lot of people, even myself, have been in this situation. I can speak on it. It may ruffle some feathers, because a lot of people, even myself, have been in this situation. I can speak on it. When is a man ready to move? Like, you know, you've been in a relationship for so many years, y'all break up, then he get in a new relationship,
Starting point is 00:38:18 and he ends up marrying this person, and they only been together for six months. Yeah, um, wow. Um, low key, I look at it like... this. Uh, I feel like when you know, you know. So it's okay. And then we don't, you don't know what people's motives are, too. It could be very much like, I have a void to feel.
Starting point is 00:38:43 I need to have somebody here. Or let me take a chance on love. You know what I mean? I feel like I don't wanna speak for you, but I know you. And we're very much open to our partnership. You know what I mean? We're not like very much like, I'll never be this again. We still, even though we might've had, you know, ups and downs in past previous relationships, we still want to be loved and we still want to give love. And because we're nurturers.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And so with that being said, I feel like, especially from a male perspective, um, and I, obviously I'm not a man, but just knowing guys, friends, he knew when they were ready. And so they were like, regardless, if I was with someone 10 to 11 years, I could have been ready, but I wasn't. You know what I mean? I wasn't where I was financially. I wasn't where I was emotionally, spiritually, whatever. So whoever happens to cross that path at that moment
Starting point is 00:39:37 is gonna get that man in that space when he's ready to be that kind of husband or that kind of partner. I stand firm in that. And that goes with us too, as ladies. I know us, I'm speaking for you and I, Sherelle, like, we're not going to propose to a man. You know what I mean? Like, we'll let we'll let a guy do his manly duties and do that.
Starting point is 00:39:57 So like, I'm saying that to the point of that. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like when men are at a point where they're like, I'm ready to provide her, I'm... where they're like, look, I'm ready to fight her, I'm ready to be a caretaker, I'm willing to really be vulnerable and give my life to this woman, that could be anytime. It could be really later on in life.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I feel like, especially for our men. So, um, I feel like it's just about timing, you know? And when a man is ultimately ready for whatever, he's gonna do it. And everyone in the world can be like, don't do it, reconsider. You know, like, don't do it. But if that man has his mind set up and is like,
Starting point is 00:40:34 look, this is why I'm gonna take my leap, please don't do it. That's true. I feel the same way. I feel like when a man is ready emotionally, financially, and mentally, he don't play no games. He knows what he wants and he moves accordingly. It just sucks. Some women get stuck in that situation where they're with this person, they go through
Starting point is 00:40:56 everything with this person, even though this person cheats, does everything. And then years have passed by and now they're ready to settle down and you gave up on the situation, now they found somebody and it's like, okay, I've done enough. You know, I don't know, like, great times, then. You know what I mean? I know what I'm capable of. I know what I also, you know, invested in too. And, you know, there's obviously a reason why
Starting point is 00:41:22 me and my person or whatever, I'm just speaking on myself, didn't work out. And I wish you the best. You know, there's obviously a reason why me and my person or whatever, I'm just speaking on myself, didn't work out. And I wish you the best, the next person, you know what I mean? I know it didn't work out with X, Y, and Z. So it's just, I'm a firm believer in alignment and timing, as well as being in, both people need to be in a hilled space of receiving and giving. So whenever it's your time, it's your time, you know, and be great. Do you think like, do you feel like women feel played when they go through situations
Starting point is 00:41:57 like this? Like, you know, I've been with this person for seven and a half years, he left me and now he's with another woman and he already proposed six months in and they're getting married. Do you feel like... That's ego. Yeah. Yeah, I do. That's ego. That's ego. You know, we all were like, well, I put in this.
Starting point is 00:42:19 I worked hard. I invested in this man. All from this woman's benefit for my, you know, whatever I put in this man for......for the... all from Next Woman to Fit for my, for my, you know, whatever I put in. But at the end of the day, there's a reason why y'all not together. And that person's gonna have to figure that out on their own. It's their time.
Starting point is 00:42:36 So, again, people in your life who are a reason for a season, and you can't look at it. I know I have learned that I can't look at it like, you know, oh, what is my return on my investment? Nah, at the end of the day, it's, I don't regret shit, because it is what it is. I was supposed to be in this person's life. We were supposed to have these times together,
Starting point is 00:42:57 and we were not supposed to continue this journey together, and that's okay. So when you get to a point of healing and not being triggered by like... things that have a relationship, you have to remember, like, you prayed your way out of it. You cried your way out of it. You mentally healed your way out of a situation
Starting point is 00:43:17 that was not for you. So once we learned that and put ego aside, we realized that, you know what? There's better out there. The grass is greener. And I'm a firm believer in that. You know, like I believe in karma. I believe in all these things.
Starting point is 00:43:33 So come when it happens. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Look, I feel like the same thing. It's okay to feel hurt.
Starting point is 00:43:43 It's a, it's a natural feeling. It is. But as women, you shouldn't feel played. You were a chapter in his growth, so you should be happy about that. You taught him things he probably couldn't receive at the time. So just know that it was, you know, it was a chapter. It had to end, but like you said, it's a new chapter. And the chapter gets better and better
Starting point is 00:44:05 once you continue going to that book. So just... And ladies, they don't forget, right, Sherelle? They not gonna forget. They don't forget. You done left your mark, okay? Exactly. They left your mark. Well, you done highlighted every page.
Starting point is 00:44:20 That highlight stays on them words. The highlight stays on them words. Okay. They can't do it like you always remember that. No, no, no. All facts. It's crazy. All facts.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Let's see. Let's see. It's been stopping women from healing? Is what? Bitterness? Bitterness. Me, I feel like, I feel like bitterness do keep you stuck. You don't heal by holding on to anger. You heal by releasing and understanding that what's for you is like you said before, it's still ahead. The grass, you know, there's always greener grass on the other side.
Starting point is 00:45:10 So continuing to hold on to something and continuing to be bitter about something, you only stopping yourself. So, you know, forgive, get over it, let it go and continue on. You don't know what's on the other side, Boo-Boo. Let it go. Yeah, you know, I agree with you, Sherelle. We just get in our own way because... Because we are, we are nurturers,
Starting point is 00:45:33 and we pour into our significant other. We also pour into our children, and that becomes attractive. We pour into our households and our family. We pour into our jobs, our work, and you know, all these passions. So we are passionate people. So when you get to know us, you're like, oh no, let me see. And it's not for everyone to handle because we cannot change who we are.
Starting point is 00:45:56 We have gone through so many things to the point where where we are now, can nobody penetrate that unless we allow it. You know what I mean? So like that comes with the territory. You know, like, we're also fun. So you gonna get everything. You gonna get it all.
Starting point is 00:46:11 You gonna get fitness, we gonna cater to you. You gonna get all that. And everyone who deals with a space to receive that, that's not for everyone to get. You know what I mean? Like, it's a privilege. And that's how I move it. And that's how get, you know what I mean? Like, it's a privilege. And that's how I move it. And that's how we move.
Starting point is 00:46:28 We move like, you know, it's a privilege to be in my space. It's a privilege to be in my aura and for me to pour into you and give you my time because it's precious, you know? And it is a sense of bitterness, you know, because you're just, it's almost disappointment. But again, that's that human nature in us and human experience in us of like, you know, because you're just, it's almost disappointment. But again, that's that human nature in us and human experience in us of like, you know, I didn't put all this work in,
Starting point is 00:46:49 I didn't really see the fruits of our labor. But what we didn't realize is the growth in ourselves. We were not supposed to be with that person long-term. And we have given, you know, I know I'm guilty of it. I give... wife everywhere. I mean, I wanna take care of you, I wanna make sure you're good. I give... wife everywhere. I mean, I want to take care of you. I want to make sure you're good. I want you to be happy.
Starting point is 00:47:08 I want you fit in so many ways. But at the same time, you know, at what cost is that for me in my integrity and my essence of Alexis? You know what I mean? Like, I can't falter that. You know, I don't want to hinder my health and my time for someone who's not reciprocating it and receiving it properly. It's just a growth period for that bitterness energy
Starting point is 00:47:31 because we get upset again, we're human and that's ego, but it also comes from healing and therapy and talking to people who are like-minded and very much on a healthy journey of not being miserable because misery loves company too. And if you had a space where, you know, you're down and you're at a low... ...and they're dumping off of that,
Starting point is 00:47:53 and they're giving you negative energy and negative, you know, commentary and just very much not happy for you. So, it's a journey, it's a lesson, and we're supposed to learn, this is it. One time at this, it's a journey, it's a lesson, and we're supposed to learn. This is it. One time at this, it's not going to be perfect. And we have to take our hands off and try to navigate things on our own because it's
Starting point is 00:48:13 not about it. That's so true. I agree with you. Yeah, I agree with you. And then, you know, I feel like a lot of women, you know, a lot of people, not just women, they want closure, but you have to understand closure don't come with the conversation. Sometimes it comes when you stop replaying the story. So sometimes you just got to let it go.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Close that book, move on. Yes. And again, power in silence. I mean, that is closure in itself. You know, why send the long paragraphs and then you now, your text is turning green. You know, again, you were disrespected then, so what makes you think you're not going to be disrespected now? If you didn't have closure, then what you think you're going to be now? You have to let people land.
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Starting point is 00:53:17 the nature of courage and sacrifice. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, let's get into it. Our next segment is our humble baddie questions. We received some new questions. So our first one, what's one personal win you've had recently that you feel like people don't fully understand or acknowledge? A personal win, I would say a couple things.
Starting point is 00:54:01 One, the journey of leaving a public relationship and still standing on my feet, as well as holding down a household, raising children. Now I have two graduates in my household. My children are very well-versed. They're good kids, good human. And in my motherhood in general, we never get, you know, accolades for one. And then two balancing life, you know, you know, jobs and income and work and really just continuing to, you know, take care of our family. That is another thing. And then even just like, you know, we have been put, just I'm gonna say this for just in general,
Starting point is 00:54:47 we have been put on a time clock. Like if you're not this age and you don't have this, then you would fail. You know, so that is a different pressure too. Like I feel like if you don't have kids at this age, then you just won't have them at all. Or if you haven't been married at this age, then you know, you're never gonna get married.
Starting point is 00:55:04 That is just like, you know, the stigma and the pressure that's to the side, especially in our community too, it's also our families. You know, like, where are my grandkids? Where are my grandkids? You know, what's taking so long? Where your man at? All these pressures, it causes rushing
Starting point is 00:55:23 and really you not making the right decisions, you know? So I don't know. I think one of my biggest, and I agree with you Lex, and this one I honestly, I learned it from you, is my biggest win is protecting my peace. And before I felt like I couldn't say that. You know, people see your biz, they see your biz, they see the podcast, they see the success, but they don't see the internal work
Starting point is 00:55:50 that it takes to stay grounded, especially when you got a lot of eyes on you. So I've learned to say no, I've learned to set boundaries, and I have to let everyone have access to me. So that's like a big win for me. everyone have access to me. So that's like, it went for me. And do you like really do what makes you happy?
Starting point is 00:56:16 If it's travel, if it's spa, if it's walking, if it's running, if it's exercising, whatever it is, you got to choose you because, you know, we've talked about this too. If this is not healthy and you're not healthy, then all this is gonna fall apart. Everything. It's so many people that depend on us, you know what I mean? In a beautiful way. People that we pour into. So, like, if I'm not right, the top of that pillar is not right, then all of this gonna crumble.
Starting point is 00:56:38 You know, it is. That's just facts. So, you gotta protect... ...all the time, because you work so hard to have it. And so you need to work even harder to keep it. That's true. Our next question, have you ever stayed too long in a relationship or situation because you thought they'll eventually get it together? What made you finally leave or stay?
Starting point is 00:57:06 Oh... I can answer this. Yeah, no. No, I'm curious to see what you're saying. I feel like, you know, absolutely to this question, I've stayed too long thinking love could change somebody. We all be in that situation, you know, oh, you know, maybe he'll change if I'm with them, if I can teach them
Starting point is 00:57:25 Or they eventually they would catch up to where I was mentally or emotionally But the truth is you can't carry someone into readiness. That's just the truth You can't you can't so I finally left when I realized I was losing pieces of myself, I couldn't stay. Like, I had to get it together. Trying to hold on to something, and I'm losing myself. It wasn't right. So the breaking point for me was choosing myself.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I feel like we are all guilty in staying in that job too long, in that family reunion too long, and in that relationship too long. Again, it comes with growth of who we are and what we're trying to become. And it's just, again, humans on this experience and really learning to love again. And so I feel like we have done an exceptional job of understanding our worst.
Starting point is 00:58:27 It goes down to that too and understanding tolerance too. Because, you know, we get blinded in trying to nurture others and trying to fix and trying to heal. But when you look back and you're giving advice to other people, would you receive that same big debt in return? Would you, I always put my daughters in my shoes. I'm like, would I want a man or a young fellow to be treating them this way? Absolutely not. And my sons, am I teaching them to treat young ladies
Starting point is 00:58:59 this way? Absolutely not. So I have to look at myself and be like, yeah, I'm the one that's leading by example. So if I am going to tolerate tolerate X, Y, and Z, then my kids are watching me and I'm stopping these generational curses. I'm stopping this generational trauma. So it starts and ends with me and we have to acknowledge when there's an expiration date and it's okay. Like, I actually learned to be okay with... Being from Asian 19 to even in my 30s, I was in a partnership with somebody.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Leaned on them, you know, expected X, Y, Z from them. And so the point where I really just have gotten to a space of learning who Alexis is and what I tolerate in my piece is non-negotiable at this point. And what you see is what you get. That part. Okay, in hindsight, that, yeah, I'm actually okay in that, in hindsight that if this doesn't work out, I'm okay with it. Because whoever enters my life at this space is for a reason.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Whatever that capacity is, it could be a partnership, it could be a friendship, it could be business, it could be insight, it can be consultation, it can be a lesson. It could be the sadness of, you know what, yeah, you know, I had a good time with this person. They really took the joy in my life and made and elevated me and showed me, you know, it's cool to be friends, it's cool to be this, it's cool to pour into somebody and be vulnerable. And I think the whole point of loving somebody is that you gotta keep loving them over and over again.
Starting point is 01:00:35 And so we have to understand that there's an expiration date for everything, just, you know, the FDA puts a label and expiration date on food, it's gonna go sour. So you either, you have, we have to do better of recognizing that, you know, like, people are in your life for a season and for a reason, and some gonna make it, you know, if they're the part of a twig or that, that, that branch part of the, you know, or, or even the root, you know?
Starting point is 01:01:01 So... I'm gonna get inside there. Is it hurtful? Yeah. But I don't look at it as a waste of time. I don't look at it as a waste of energy. I don't look at it as a waste of life because it's really shaping me of who I am, you know?
Starting point is 01:01:17 You're not gonna get along with everybody. It's just, that's facts. That's true. Just facts. That's true, Lex. Our next question is, what's something you hear from that you didn't think you would? How did you get through it? My first thing is divorce.
Starting point is 01:01:36 You don't go into marriage thinking you're going to be divorced. That's just golden. I didn't think I was going to get through it. Just the heartbreak, the heartache, the, you know, this newfound independent... ...and really taking care of my children as a single mother. Um, that is something I didn't think I could get over. But here I am five years later and thriving. I'm doing, I'm following my dreams.
Starting point is 01:02:00 I figured out that I have the time now to follow my heart. Um, and so all things happen for a reason. And actually, I'm the healthiest. I figured out that I have the time now to follow my heart. And so all things happen for a reason. And actually, I'm the healthiest I've ever been. I am the most... Skin glowing. Skin is the best it's ever been. Mentally, I'm more focused.
Starting point is 01:02:21 I know exactly what I want, and I'm at a place of filtering out bullshit. So I'm very grateful for that journey. You know what I mean? Now, if you would have told me this, day one post, I would have been like, my life is over. This takes time and healing, therapy, trips. Yeah, come on now. All of that. And because we're, it's trauma, it's triggers, you know? We're coming from, you know, really grieving.
Starting point is 01:02:44 We're in a grieving period. And so like, we have to give ourselves grace. And I think that was the main thing that I learned. I mean, I've had this conversation with you too, Sherelle. Like, we have to give ourselves grace. Like, we are so much these women that are like, it has to be like this, it should be like this, and it looks like this.
Starting point is 01:03:02 That's not possible. Mm-mm. We gotta give ourselves time. We have to give ourselves hic-mm. We gotta give ourselves time. We have to give ourselves hiccups. We gotta give ourselves grace. We gotta give ourselves madness and crying time. And in times where we just shut... ...shit down.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Shut the door, turn off the phone, don't wanna be bothered. All of that, you know what I'm saying? And I can only speak for myself because it's like, I know what I needed for me to be this Alexis, you know? What about yourself? And it took time and it's still taking time. It's a process. It is. I feel the same thing, you know.
Starting point is 01:03:37 My biggest thing, you know, the divorce through friends and everything, my biggest thing is it's a trail, you know. I never thought I would fully heal being let down by people who were so close to me, who I loved and everything. My biggest thing is, it's a trail. You know, I never thought I would fully heal being let down by people who were so close to me, who I loved and trusted. But the main thing that really got me through everything was of course, like you said, therapy, prayer, traveling, and just learning how to forgive people without needing a nephrology. That's it. That's the biggest thing. Just forgive. You don't need a nephrology on everything. I had to release the weight of carrying other people choices. Like that was the main thing.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Heal initial choice you have to make. So me, I just, I had to fix myself and understand who I am, let it go, move on. And it's still a work in progress. Wouldn't you agree? Like every day, aren't you learning stuff about yourself? Oh, I know I am. Every day. I'm like, yeah. Like, you know, I'm, you know, in that dating stage, for example, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:04:35 mm, yeah, no, that turned me off moving on or whatever the case may be. We're speaking up more and having boundaries and just these non-negotiables. Yeah. I'm with you. I'm with you, Sherelle. I'm proud of you too, because I've seen the growth and, you know, it's... takes time. And you're very, you're very hard on yourself. You know what I mean? I'm so hard on myself. Yeah, you are so hard on yourself.
Starting point is 01:05:00 And it's no time limit. You cannot put time on healing. Like, you really cannot. And, you know, you gotta push forward. And so I'm proud of you. You've done a great job. Thank you, my love. Thank you. Our next one, we got our humble baddies, Mel. And I'm proud of you too, Lex. You know, I get my motivation. You may not know it.
Starting point is 01:05:21 But I love being around you. I love being around you ladies because y'all teach, y'all may not know it, but I love being around you. I love being around you ladies because y'all teach, y'all may not know it, but y'all teach so much, you know, just by your actions, how you carry yourself as a woman, how you speak, like it's just, it's beautiful to be able to call you my friend and have someone like you and Ashley around because you learn so much
Starting point is 01:05:41 without even knowing that you're here. So I'm truly grateful to have you all here. Thank you for that. Same here. So I'm truly grateful to have you. Same here. I know. Shout out to Ashley and her absence and poor Sue, you know, I know she just came through a couple of times and just like everyone that we touched. So I received that. Thank you so much for that. Thank you. All right, let's get into it. We have our humble baddies. I've got you boo, you ready for me?
Starting point is 01:06:09 Yes, I'm ready for you. Okay, boo. Dear humble baddies, that's us. I need y'all to keep your road with me. I was with my ex for nine years. We lived together, built multiple businesses together, and I supported him through every financials, job changes, family drama, even his health scares. Every time I brought up marriage,
Starting point is 01:06:36 he said, he's not ready or he needs more time to be stable. We finally broke up. Eight months later, he's engaged to a girl he met after me. I feel like I invested all my best years into building him up for someone else. I blocked him on everything because seeing his new life hurts. But a part of me still wants to confront him and ask, why not me? Am I wrong for feeling bitter? Should I give my closure or just focus on healing?
Starting point is 01:07:06 Love you all. Love y'all's podcast. Stacey from Chicago. What's up, Stacey from the shot. Hey, Stacey. Damn, that's hurt. That's a sad situation. But I feel like everything you're feeling, Stacey, is 100% valid. You love them, you built with them, you sacrificed for him, and now you watching
Starting point is 01:07:25 him give everything that y'all built together to someone else, something that you prayed for. It's not just a heartbreak, but I feel like it's a betrayal mixed with confusion. So it's hard. It's very hard. But you can't force them, you got to understand Stacey, you can't force someone to be ready for you if you aren't ready for, if they're not ready for themselves. So, it's one of those things like we spoke about earlier. You just, you know, heal, get over it, and move on. Yeah, and it's a lesson in itself. And don't feel like, I feel like we, again,
Starting point is 01:08:03 we're hurting ourselves and you cannot regret anything that you poured into this person because that's who you are, Stacey. You are that giver, you helped him in X, Y, Z, y'all built these businesses. You were supposed to be in his life for that reason and he was supposed to be in your life for that reason. Now, moving forward,
Starting point is 01:08:24 you cannot run this be into the next. You know, that is your ex for a reason. Again, it was not meant to be. And now you are meant to be for someone else or you're meant to be in this space of being by yourself. And that's okay. You have to get to a space of understanding who you are in your essence and your worth.
Starting point is 01:08:43 And that right person, you know, especially because I feel like... They're in reciprocated energy and reflection. So, like, what I'm reflecting to you is what you're gonna attract. So, if you're, like, sad and hurt, you're gonna attract somebody that's gonna take advantage of that. But if you're graceful and you're happy and you're just open, you're gonna receive somebody that's open as well. So I, you know, my suggestion is for you to like,
Starting point is 01:09:12 I'm glad you put some of your mental health, that's fine. Do what is best for you. But at the same time, start focusing on yourself. You're going to go out with your friends, go out and turn up and have a good time because that's where you're going to meet somebody. And, you know, you're Tomocong, and now you just a more equipped. You have experience now of what you want
Starting point is 01:09:31 and what you don't want. And you gotta understand, Stacey, as far as closure, you already have it. He showed you who he was, going back for answers, definitely ain't gonna heal it. All it's gonna do is just open up more wounds. So just heal in silence and glow, girl, glow in the public. Let's go out, have fun, enjoy life. You got this, girl.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Yep. And that's that. It does sound flabby, then said, then done, but it does come from time. Time heals all wounds. It really does. That's true. That's true. All right, guys, that is it for The Humble Baddies. Another one in the book. Y'all, we about to call it a night.
Starting point is 01:10:16 We about to wrap it up. Oh, shit, y'all lost me. Y'all can't see. I lost you, but I can hear you. Where'd you go? Where's Shara? We said, I'ma beat Sonny behind because... Sonny behind because... There you are, you're back. Oh, now you're gone.
Starting point is 01:10:32 But we're at the end anyway, so where can they find you, Sherelle? There you go. You can find me at Sherelle Pizzotto on the score on Instagram. Make sure you follow our podcast on Instagram, Humble Baddies Podcast, and follow us, subscribe to us. Tell your cousins, your baby daddies, your mistress, your whoever he is, whoever she is, to follow us, subscribe to us at Humble Baddies Podcast on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Yeah, so you can find me at Alexis underscore Stoudermire on Instagram. And shout out to... There was a few ladies that came through at Smith and Wester's over the weekend that watch our show. So, shout out to them. I know y'all watching. They were like, we're fans of the Humblebatties. I was like, thank you so much. Shout out to y'all.
Starting point is 01:11:17 And they definitely watched the show too. So, thank you for watching. And have a good night. And if you have anything you want to reach out to us, hit us up at contact at HumbleBuddies.com. Until next time, we'll see y'all on Wednesday. Hey! Camp Shane, one of America's longest running weight loss camps for kids, promised extraordinary results. But there were some dark truths behind Camp Shane's facade of happy, transformed children.
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