Club Shay Shay - Davante Adams Part 2

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

Davante Adams continues his conversation on Club Shay Shay, picking up where her left off in the first half of his episode. The conversation extends to Davante's thoughts on his legacy and future in t...he NFL, discussing the uncertainty of how long he will continue playing and the impact on his family. He shares insights into his favorite NBA players like LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Allen Iverson, Deron Williams, and Shaquille O'Neal, crafting his personal Mount Rushmore of basketball legends, and reflects on his top five wide receivers of all time, including Randy Moss, Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens, Calvin Johnson, and Marvin Harrison. In a candid moment, Davante discusses his upcoming Netflix series, offering viewers an unfiltered look into his life on and off the field, providing a glimpse into the real Davante Adams beyond the game. Don't miss this candid and revealing conversation with Davante Adams, exclusively on Club Shay Shay.   #Volume  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:33 It's reported, I don't know if you can clear this up, that you took not considerably less, but the Raiders gave you a little less than what the Packers had offered. Yeah, right before the ending of it yeah that's true you was out of there you felt they slapped you in your face by not giving you what you what you had earned up until that point they made you play put yourself put you and your family at risk and then once you come out on the other side say doc we knew you could do it here you go bro and then but but the biggest thing was
Starting point is 00:01:05 that i didn't hear anything after that so i basically was already la la la la la okay you know once once the season ended but i didn't there was no follow-up there wasn't a lot of talks going on i didn't know there was for like almost two months and and i'm thinking okay well i'm gonna just be a regular dude to them so i'm about to go and then they think that you know tagging me was was the the next option after basically playing for less than a tag the year before that so i'm like this this is obviously not in in and they were i don't know if they was calling my bluff or or just you know what what the idea was but it just wasn't working for me so you know i just i had to plug my ears before i heard the number that made my ass want to stay and because you'd heard that number before he's like okay i'm a gear y'all
Starting point is 00:01:46 hold on you said what so yeah i just i just said look we're gonna nip this in the bud this is what i think is best you know ended up working out for the packers they got a couple good players out of it as well and you know it is what it is growing up your upbringing i read that you've had you never had your own bed slept on the couch at your grandma's house with nine other people living there did you always want to be a football player did you always want to be what do you what did tay want to be when he was growing up i want to be an nba when i was in the in the in the fourth grade we did a yearbook thing i can show it to you too i got i got it i got it in my favor so it'll be it'll be real easy to find but i don't know if you ever seen it i was in fourth grade and this this will tell you that this was all
Starting point is 00:02:29 meant to be because you'll notice that jersey and you'll notice that kid right there that's that's in the yearbook fourth grade yearbook right there nba or nfl star that's what i told them them people that i needed i said i said that's what that's what i want to be and and you see nba was first yeah at this point i didn't I didn't play football until my junior year in high school. So I was supposed to be. So all your time was the ball, the hoop. It was ball for me. And that was, it was really no other option.
Starting point is 00:02:56 There was nobody else that had made it out of, you know, where I was from. So I want to be able to, you know, inspire the youth in my city. And obviously provide for my family. And do what I love to do, which is play ball. But, you know, the football got, I ended up catching one of those at some point in high school. And, you know, I said, you know, I grew five and a half inches going into high school. And then that kind of stopped. And I was like, damn, I thought I was going to be 6'8". I'm like, okay. So, you know, I grew and I'm grateful. You know, I'm about 6'1", 6'2", now. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:26 But that's bottom of the barrel in the NBA. Yeah. And I do got the 40, 41, 42-inch vert to make up for it. You shooting it like Steph or Dame? I ain't shooting it like Dame or Steph, but I can shoot it. But, you know, them boys a little different over there with that. So, if I can't shoot it like them and I ain ain't you know and they ain't about my height so he close but you know i i play the numbers and i feel like the the nfl was gonna gonna be a good look for me
Starting point is 00:03:52 how motivated were you and i tell people this all the time my only motivation was to get my family out of the environment that i grew up in because i didn't want my kids to spend one day in a life in which i had to live right so let alone let alone an hour, not even a day. Right. How motivated were you to get your family, knowing their upbringing, nine people sleeping on a couch in your grandmother's home? How motivated was Devontae to leave that environment? I mean, it was my driving force, man. It was my driving force, man.
Starting point is 00:04:24 And honestly, I'm glad that I had a wake-up call in high school that kind of got me on the right track as far as academics because I wasn't really focused the way that I was supposed to early in high school. And that was going to lead to me having to take a whole alternate route to get where I needed, which nothing wrong with the JUCO route, but you can get lost in the salt, especially coming from where I come from. A lot of people end up in that and get lost in it you know you ain't guaranteed nothing you don't you probably you might have a quarterback that's okay but you you know we we need somebody that
Starting point is 00:04:52 knows that can sling it to to be able to we play a dependent position correct exactly if i'm playing running back you know that's that's on me you know the the old line got a block and you got to be a good scheme and all that but you get that pill in your hand you got more to do with you know you got more more to say about what you do than then on the outside right so for me i just had to get a little bit more mature you know throughout as it pertained to understanding the big picture you know in high school and in locked in and once i once i got there and understood and conquered that academic aspect and got to a point where I realized that I was on my way, I feel I couldn't let nothing get in my way. I knew my whole life growing up, every time I played, you know, at any level of basketball or whatever, I was always one of the best ones, if not the best one. So it wasn't a talent. So for me, it was just about the right opportunity
Starting point is 00:05:39 and making sure I checked the boxes of, you know, what I had to do, you know, academically. And I don't want to say check the boxes because I make it seem had to do you know academically and and I don't say check the boxes because I make it seem like I was just trying to get by right which was some of it maybe that was but to a certain extent I wanted to make sure I did what I had to do so that I could you know get there because school for me like I didn't want to be a doctor so it was essentially a means to an end because you got I made you the eligibility. There you go. And then once I got my head on my shoulders, I said, this is something that I can use to. And for me, I never even really thought too much about I need to provide for my kids because I wasn't even on that wavelength, that mental wavelength at that point.
Starting point is 00:06:18 But your immediate family that you saw going through everything that you were going through. Exactly. Which is why that same house that I lived in and grew up in and slept on that couch last year. This. So basically, 12 months ago, I was able to team up with CBS and go and completely renovate her entire home in two weeks. So when it did that, just to get back to her, because it's not easy doing that. You know, obviously, my parents did a great deal for me and live with my mom and dad being separated. I would go and stay with my mom. And i stay with my dad that's that was the situation that i had and that's the only situation i ever had so i didn't really know anything
Starting point is 00:06:51 different but once i got to the outside and i seen i had to i felt like i really needed to pay that forward to to my people you dealt with a lot of death growing up friend uh drug uh drug sales gang violence uh i think you had a cousin that got murdered how did those situations impact hey well i first i just i thank my parents man i got great parents i thank them for for really helping me be you know exposed to it as far as knowing what's going on, but almost to learn from it and stay away from that type of stuff. I've never had any type of legal, you know, run-ins where, you know, I've made any bad decisions. And part of that was that healthy fear of my parents. Like they, they already, they instilled it in me and I knew the
Starting point is 00:07:39 difference between, you know, right and wrong. So even, even though I may have been, you know, goofing off in the classroom, freshman and sophomore year in high school or something like that or you know not not you know giving my all into my academics I was always a mature minded person You know I always knew I always could make the right decision like my whole thing I still live by to this day is I never want to be able to say I just made the worst mistake of my life And it's a lot of dudes that I grew up with and that's still around, still paying for it, that's still paying for it and still saying that almost day by day, like, damn, I just made the worst decision, you know. So to
Starting point is 00:08:16 have parents that had me in elementary school, 45 minutes away from the hood, you know, getting on a school bus and having my day be a lot longer, but ultimately allowed me to be around a completely different crowd where I could focus on school and not have to worry about fighting in school and, you know, drugs being in a school in elementary, like how it was where I grew up and, you know, people getting killed. Like I got friends that I played, you know, early, early childhood basketball with that. I didn't even get to see, you know, graduate high school. And that's a crazy thought when you're an adult now like at that point I'm thinking you know so many people you grew up in the hood you see kids 13 14 getting killed because they get into it so early so it's not that that crazy to you at that point those are just your friends but then once you start to be an adult
Starting point is 00:08:58 you think about what if my kid like at that you know I got a I got a five-year-old almost I'm like that's about seven years from now. Like, you know, the thought of that is insane to think about that. So for me to recognize that, it just, that's my driving force, you know, to continue to do what I do to, you know, make sure my kids see the light and don't ever have to see stuff like that. I read that you broke your arm three times. Broke your arm playing Pop Warner football, playing basketball,
Starting point is 00:09:25 and then you broke it again playing football all before the eighth grade. You see that? That's how you can get it up? That thing. Man, that's an extra 200 catches in there if you got that thing. Dang!
Starting point is 00:09:39 Dang! I knew you was coming with that. That would be. Yeah, I probably have 15,000 right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You 200 catching show with that one. Yeah, man. Now you see if there's ever a situation.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Like, that's what I'm working with. Super, yeah, I broke this when I was fifth grade twice. So I broke it. It re-healed, reattached. I was wearing a brace, and it was hooping in an after-school program before I should. Fell straight on it, snapped it again. And then again in eighth grade, I did it again. So in other words, you broke the growth plate, so it stopped growing.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Stopped growing. And now that thing's stunted. But my right arm is way longer, but my left hand is way bigger. So I'm just, oh, don't even ask. I don't even know. I made it work. We done figured it out. Did you want to quit?
Starting point is 00:10:33 Did you feel cursed? Did you feel like, man, damn. Well, football-wise, I was over it. Because that was the one year that I played in Pop Warner. Right. Broke my arm the last play of the half the first game of the season playing quarterback. Right. Got sackedacked and we was getting ready
Starting point is 00:10:46 Need I told my cousin I was coaching. I said man. Let's go ahead. Let's go for this We had like the 40 yard line. I don't even know how to throw 40 Let's go for it. I'm dropping back here. We playing the team out of Oakland these boys Is that we know they weren't shaking birth certificates? I Had to run around the edge look like you came and smacked me landed on me and just snapped it i said i ain't never playing football again i ain't never broke no bone in my life until that point i was over it so high high school football so that means you didn't play high school football until your junior year why did you play your freshman
Starting point is 00:11:18 sophomore you so over it after breaking your arm i was over it man i was i was still healing coming in like fully healing and my mom was like, boy, you need to sit down somewhere. She enjoyed, I think, basketball more at that point anyway. Right. You know, seeing me,
Starting point is 00:11:31 like I was, you know, I ain't have a helmet. You're not as far away. You watching the game. You can see me with like just how that camera right there. You could be right there
Starting point is 00:11:38 up on the game. So she's like, I'd rather be more intimate with it like that. My dad was a basketball phenom. Like he played both sports, but he was like that guy, especially in the hood growing up. Half the reason I don't go back now is because every time I go, I get reminded of my dad, better athlete than me. What?
Starting point is 00:11:55 And he about to be 62 next month. So I'm like, man, okay, well, maybe I'll stay away from y'all. Y'all killing my confidence. Right, right, right. okay, well, maybe I'll stay away from y'all. Y'all think I'm going to run the league. Y'all killing my confidence. Right, right, right. But, yeah, that's, I mean, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I decided that we're going to stick with this football thing, and it worked out. So your junior year, you played 25 total games, 92 catches, almost 600 yards, 18 touchdowns. You won Palo Alto's first state title. You starting cornerback and wide receiver. You were locking them up. You was Revis.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Man, I was playing off, pressing a little bit of everything. Really, I should have had more picks. Them boys wasn't throwing on my side. Oh, you was shot down. I was just over there baiting stuff, and they was like, nah, we ain't doing that. We ain't coming over there. Not with all them touchdowns he got. Yeah, but we had a good team, though, man.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Went out there and won, and it wasn't a private school, nothing. Went out there and held our own. Ira, you were a teammate, a high school teammate of Jock Peterson. Yeah. And Jock Peterson won two World Series back-to-back. I think he played with the 49ers. I think he did the Giants. The Giants was the team he was on before the Diamondbacks now.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Yeah. He won one with the Braves, and he won one with the Dodgers. The Giants was the team he was on before the Diamondbacks now. He won one with the Braves and he won one with the Dodgers. Hold on. In 2009, he had 30 catches, 650 yards, 9 touchdowns. You had 25 catches, 484 yards, 7 touchdowns. Hey, man. It was
Starting point is 00:13:19 his show. One thing people don't know, they see him now and he a baseball dude. He ain't got to look like us when they get out there. So it's hard to like think about it. But Jock was really the jack of all trades, though. Really? He was that guy. Basketball, football, baseball.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Like, he ain't need the academics. He just need to be able to graduate high school because he went and got drafted right out of there because he could do it all, though, honestly. People didn't know that about him, but he was somebody that I looked up to when I first started football. I mean, you said he was a great football player, obviously baseball because he made it to the majors, basketball. I'm looking at some of the athletes from the Bay, Brady, Bill Russell, Barry Bond, Jason Kidd, GP, Dane. Excuse me. Rest your soul, OJ.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Where is Devontae in that that that list oh he in there somewhere you got it hey if we putting jerseys up on the wall mine gonna be in it's gonna be what it's all said done when you're done with this game i don't know if they're gonna put it right by times but they're gonna they're gonna put it right i'm definitely i'll be over there somewhere at least near near uh near dame and oj right so you're great so you said you took at first you were like you joked around in class grades weren't a big thing so is that why you didn't get an opportunity to go to cal because of your grades the grades they just they came in man were they really bad i mean i was i was could you have gotten in prison with them grades yeah i said like this man i was flirting with with being eligible which is which is really really bad that's not that's not good by any means i was i was hovering around like
Starting point is 00:14:57 a like a 2.0 like like right there right now and that's and that was factored in with pe grades in there too so so it was you know i I definitely wasn't doing that now with a track Stanford You know Stanford my high school here El Camino right here in Stanford is literally right here and them boys Wanted nothing to do with your boy cuz they like We don't give you a scally just for the point to go to waste like you ain't you ain't showing that you right you got What it takes to be able to even you know, did you want to go to Stanford? I never really had an interest. I always wanted to go to Cal That was that was a school. I wanted to go to real bad It was Cal Oregon at that point just it was you know Marshawn being somebody I grew up around right seeing seeing him indeed
Starting point is 00:15:37 Jack like they they made college football in the Bay Area It looked like like big-time ball like them boys in Clemson and like what you see on the East Coast and in the South. Like it was the closest thing resembling to that. And it looked more fun, honestly, because them boys took it over themselves. So that's where I always wanted to go. But that's another – I mean, any UCs, they got to see something that's going to stand out. So it ended up turning into two offers. You know, they called me a two-star, but I think that's closer to a one-star.
Starting point is 00:16:05 And, you know, having San Diego State come and offer me in class turn it into two offers. They called me a two-star, but I think that's closer to a one-star. Right. And having San Diego State come and offer me in class, and actually one of the coaches, they offered me, walked into the class, called the teacher out, teacher that got us in there. We were sitting in there for like probably 30 seconds. He walked back in, offered me a scholarship in front of the class and say to the class,
Starting point is 00:16:23 this scholarship is going to go to waste if he don't pick his grades up and that was one of the most embarrassing moments i think i ever had in my life because mind you i'm the guy at the school right so like ain't nobody at the in that class or at the school gonna try me in a way like that but what am i gonna do like respond like i can't let him be like get on him about that so i'm just sitting there just with the with the stank face just mad and salty about it but but you know it's true it lit a fire though it did and and at that point i never really you know when you young like that i wouldn't say that i was doing enough in in hoop my first two years to where i was get a offer that early you got the guys that come in as dinner Aaron Gordons and people like that
Starting point is 00:17:05 that I played hoop with in that area where he's 6'7 and doing all that dunk and they got scouts and stuff at every game. So those type of dudes get offered in 8th grade sometime. But I wasn't doing enough at that point. I don't think my game had matured enough. And then it got to a point even by my senior
Starting point is 00:17:22 year where I was getting a lot more attention. But at that point I had already made up my mind and thankfully got my grades together. Ended up taking eight classes. You know, your junior and senior year, you start gearing down. You just took the most of them. So you're finishing up. You almost decide where you want to go. Doing the least possible.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah. So I got eight classes my senior year. And then, so full day, every single day. And then I had to, when I graduated high school, I was headed to Fresno State, but still had to take another course because I had taken a class that wasn't in the I wasn't like on the eligibility for D1 eligibility. So the class that I actually did pass and do well in didn't even count. So I graduated high school and got to take a summer school course while these boys is in training camp for in college. My whole class is there. I'm taking a class just to still get into fresno state so that's actually why i end up red shirting because they didn't get to really assess me in training camp because everything
Starting point is 00:18:13 took so long but you were those two seasons that you played 24 touchdown catches in season eight more than anyone else in college football you average two touchdowns a game had 14 catches a year before led the nation with 131 catches 117 yards 24 uh 24 touchdowns bro you put that work in we did and and honestly it's a it's a it's a blessing in disguise i think that i was able to redshirt that year because that first year like getting acclimated i went and i took advantage i went to work i felt kind kind of slighted that they redshirted me because I felt like they knew enough about me to have me on that field. But we had a lot of guys going at that point, and I don't know if I would have been able to make that same initial splash into college football the way that I did had I played that year.
Starting point is 00:18:58 So I think that it worked out better. I got scout team player of the year. I was wearing Kenan Allen's jersey number. You know, you put the little pennies on to go out and mimic him. I was taking full advantage, learning him. And, you know, he ended up turning into like one of my idols. And I ended up telling him like a couple years into the league. And, you know, he's one of my good friends now because of, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:18 essentially just having to model my game after him, you know, playing against them week one, that first game. I said, man, I'm about to kill these boys all year. And I took all the onus to get better and use that year for what it was and then came in that year, like you said, over 100 catches and 13, 114. And then the next year they sitting there, well, how are you going to follow that up? Well, then I came back and doubled the touchdowns and then 130 and 1,700. And at that point, with Derek leaving and me being in the position that I was Well, then I came back and doubled the touchdowns and then, you know, 130 and 1700.
Starting point is 00:19:45 And at that point, with Derek leaving and me being in a position that I was and what I'd already solidified, I felt like I'm leaving, too. I was going to hurt myself more by staying because I mean, what you want to see, 2000 yards before you believe that? And we played the freaking 12 games. Right. You know, I mean, like I was getting it in and I felt really good. I felt like I put everything I could on tape. Being a little bit younger, getting in the league, it gave me a little bit more time in the league too. It just so happened to work out great timing. In the 2014 draft, can you name the eight receivers that were drafted before you?
Starting point is 00:20:18 Sammy Watkins, fourth overall. Mike Evans, seventh overall. Odell, 12th overall. B. Cooks, 20th overall. Kevin Benjamin, 28th overall. Marquises 20th overall, Kevin Benjamin 28th overall, Marquise Lee was the first pick of the second round, I believe. Then we got Paul Richardson, Jordan Matthews, and then I think 1-7
Starting point is 00:20:34 came in there right after that, if I didn't mess that up. That's it. Yep. Sammy Watkins, Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Jr., Brandon Cooks, Kevin Benjamin, Marquise Lee, Jordan Matthews, Paul Richardson. Yeah, Jordan was right before Paul. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:48 But that draft, think about it. You had Aaron Donald in that draft, Jadavion Clowney, Khalil Mack, Teddy Bridgewater, Derek Carr, Jimmy G, Jarvis Landryk, Christian Kirksey. I mean, what was your rookie year in Green Bay? year in Green Bay did you think you should have played more or you played about as much as you thought you should or deserved or earned the right to play well I say this I wasn't I didn't have any issues with how much I played because I feel like I got a substantial amount of snaps I felt like maybe I could have gotten used a little bit more, and maybe that would have even helped advance my progression as a receiver in this league to help going into that next year. But having different times where – and that's just the reality of it.
Starting point is 00:21:35 You come in and you got Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb on the team, and you come in and you're not playing, like I said, like how Odell did when he first got in. If I was doing that and wasn't getting the ball, then maybe I would feel differently. But I don't think my game was at that point. And that's one of my best traits. And somebody gave me this compliment the other day. And it was actually one of the best compliments anybody could have ever given me.
Starting point is 00:21:57 He said, Tay, I really feel like you're the most self-aware person that I ever met. And it meant a lot to me because I'm really good about being honest with myself and I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that I should have been a pro bowler that year or my second year I should have been getting the ball like some of these dudes because you got to play like it and my confidence wasn't at the spot that where I want you know 10 targets 15 targets a game right because when you're not confident playing this position you're not going to be able to be successful unless you're standing by yourself out there so you got to get open you got to do all the stuff that it takes to be great and then once you you know accumulate enough stack success that's when you get to a point where you feel like okay now
Starting point is 00:22:38 this thing should be my show and then that ended up happening but that first year i didn't necessarily feel that way how much did social media impact you the first two years the fans wanted jeff janice to play they hashtag janice over adams but your mom like hold on y'all ain't ready to talk about my baby like this here a lot of my people felt that way and honestly jeff jeff is i love jeff to death wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news, previews, recaps, and analysis delivered straight to your podcast feed by the time you get your coffee.
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Starting point is 00:24:01 I ever had. We still talk. He still, honestly, to this day, I think Jeff might talk more shit to me than anybody that I've ever played with like Jeff Janis don't care man and we came in together and we were real tight so I got nothing but respect for him but you know so it has nothing to do with him but I just thought that just people were just insane making some of the claims that they were making because like what what are you expecting out of a young player coming in you know first just getting my feet wet I've shown you that
Starting point is 00:24:28 that there's some you know I showed a little promise early had some hiccups but the fact that people be ready to just give up on folks the way that they do especially after they know that they can play right you know it just it kills me and that's why I feel like it's my responsibility now to show love to the proper people no matter what they're going through in the you know as a pertainer we come on here and we talk about somebody that's struggling in the league I'm not going to lie to you but if it's somebody that I feel like duh like we talk about Aiden people want to say oh he not the answer this and that well what are you basing that off of have you do you have a large enough sample size to really truly feel that way are you saying that because this man on tv said that and he's shaping the way that you feel about you know about the game and um i've
Starting point is 00:25:10 always said like i wish that i could even start this now and put some money in to get it going but i wish the fans had the ability to access practice film and really see that way they could they could determine who they really really like and who is really the best because if you got to see people work on a day in and day out basis and go in and watch let me see what tay did in seven on seven today let me see in a team period four how he played when they when they did move the ball period let me see how he did and if you got the chance to come in and watch me work it wouldn't even be i mean i know some some guys out there getting it in and practice and they post their videos and they do all that i don't't do the social media proving, trying to prove
Starting point is 00:25:45 to the world that I'm out here grinding. You're going to see on Sunday and then one after that and then one after that. For continuous years. I'm going to show you the proof is in the pudding. I'd rather do it that way. What do you feel your responsibility as a receiver? Because a lot of times
Starting point is 00:26:01 and sometimes quarterbacks don't take this approach. My job is not to get him ready. But MVS gave you a lot of credit that and and sometimes quarterbacks don't take this approach my job is not to get him ready but mvs gave you a lot of credit that says you taught him how to run the routes you taught him how to be professional what role do you think you play you play as a veteran guys helping the young guys get ready to play i mean that my leadership role has been prevalent for, I mean, really since about, I would say, honestly, 2017, probably the year before Marquez and them got in the league. That's when it got to a point where I was the, you know, for sure the number one guy. And it was essentially my show on offense.
Starting point is 00:26:38 So I've been real secure about myself as a player. So I don't feel like me going in. I'll say this. I feel like I'm doing a disservice to the team and my fellow White House by not giving them all the knowledge that I've gotten. Because, honestly, a part of what's making it harder year by year is when you know so much and you truly understand the game, you can't just be coached by just anybody right because now i'm not just about to buy in like if you come in the league and you don't know much it's easy to have whatever coach you got this old dude telling you this and that yeah you just gonna go because he's the coach right but once you have real experience and you really know yourself and i've learned from some real gurus right keith williams my receiver coach from fresno state who's
Starting point is 00:27:22 with the saints now right he's taught me 90 percent of what I know it mentality wise technique all of that to where now walking into a room I got to be with a guy like Edgar Bennett that he understands that I know so that we work together when it's time to you know put together the the individual uh part of practice we talk about what drills you want to do because I'm not about to get out there and do no drills that does not go help me in the game. You got to translate. I'm looking at dudes working out in the offseason. These dudes working out with with the wide out Prince and King routes and this and that. I'm like, who is that dude? Why are we not seeing him run routes in the league?
Starting point is 00:27:58 If he if he know all this, you know what I'm saying? And it don't always mean that you had to have played to be a good coach. I'm not saying that. But when I see a dude simulating a kick return and they throwing trash cans at him i'm like what are we doing how is that making you better at football so you could you could say you're getting it in and yeah you're doing just say you're doing cardio because you're not getting better it's better than sitting at the crib right but you ain't getting better at football and i'm not about to be having nobody throw no trash cans at me in practice to simulate a defender trying to tackle me. Right. So having a guy like like EB and AP and being able to work with a coach in situations like that, I feel like it helps me be myself, which I can now share that on, you know, Trey Tucker or or Jacoby Myers. And we work together that way. I can, you know, shed all of the knowledge and the light that i have and and help them like it's not one meeting that go by where we watching practice tape and i'm
Starting point is 00:28:48 sitting here like this and i'm just sitting here just taking notes on what i'm doing at some point i'm gonna be hey tuck like you if you're running this like make sure right before you at the top like i need a real hard burst he got a feel that you're going deep if you're running that that that corner pump stop or whatever it is that last piece you got to sell that that's what's going to get them to do it because these dudes always ask me how you work on the releases like what drills you do i say you know what i do every single time i got a somebody pressing i don't just take that as an opportunity to get lazy and just run around them or do some bs at the line i'm i'm working every single time and what that does in turn is instill fear in that
Starting point is 00:29:26 man because now he know oh this is the guy with the releases so then half the time it just make it easy because these dudes just retreat because they didn't see me work so many dudes to where now it's just operation don't get abused versus try to be aggressive and really stop them and that just makes your job easier when you're in the driver's seat like that everything should be to set up everything else correct I'm running I'm running i'm running trust me when i run a particular route oh i got another route in mind that i'm running the office oh you just don't know it but it's gonna come up in the fourth quarter i promise you it is and i done talked to these boys about my mentality like i run a route because you ain't gonna be wide open on everything so you gotta they
Starting point is 00:30:02 get paid too they get paid too man They get a not like my coach. Hey, you got to beat him on that. I said he got a check last week, too. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And I don't even know. So I'm going to share some light on something that I've never even shared. I've done a few podcasts, but I never even shared this.
Starting point is 00:30:17 But I talked to my teammates about it, and I'd be telling the DBs, too. And they just laugh at me for it. But they understand, and they know it's a whole different cerebral approach to this game that i have i'll run a comeback on you right here you may see it a little bit better than the next man and get on it you might be in my hip pocket on it right right i'm gonna keep coming downhill and if i if that quarterback don't throw that ball i'm gonna stick my foot in the ground so quick and make you think it was a double move and kill you on that when really it was just a comeback right but now you think you got killed after you thought you was on me i done pumped it through the hand up and i'm jumping like oh the ball i need the ball when really you guarded that wheel you had it covered but now
Starting point is 00:30:52 your ass thinking that c so now you it's gonna make him different where i gotta come back the next time he gonna be a little bit more apprehensive about jumping it exactly so let me ask you this you you look a lot of people say you're you know you're not one of the great route runners in today's game i've studied you i've watched you you're one of the great route runners of all time and when i talk route runners i'm talking about jimmy smith i'm talking about keenan mccardle talking about flipper anderson my brother was a great route runner ocho cinco ab no matter what you think about ab and he's he's dealing with what he's dealing with he's taking shots at me,
Starting point is 00:31:26 but I thought he was a phenomenal receiver. Pete was second to none. Who did you study, Tay? Man, it was a little bit of everybody, honestly. I'm the type of dude now that I truly feel like, not that people didn't already know Calvin Ridley and these guys, but this is somebody that... Amari Cooper, all the... Coop coop all the dudes like you got the guys that's in the front like you got the julios the abs that obviously you can't help but to watch that tape but when i'm watching
Starting point is 00:31:54 it like if you want to go a little bit older i mean like santana like seeing seeing santana and watching santana ocho and andre johnson on youtube at the the park in Miami in like 2007 and young AB was there with him with the with the you know the little box a little weird or whatever like I'm watching I'm thinking about stuff like that where I'm watching Santana Moss and do his thing I'm watching uh Calvin Ridley I might turn on some you whoever. It might be a dude that's a number three receiver. It's a dude that was over in, you got to forgive me for forgetting his name in the moment, but the dude that was over with the Falcons, slot dude, a little smaller dude. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Just recently, though. He was just there. But guys like that that I'm watching, and you may not even – these dudes ain't going to be on SportsCenter, but I'm watching what he's doing because that could help me create Weapon X where I grab a piece of that. I watch Calvin because I want to see a dude go up and snatch the ball. Dez is a dude that I grew up really studying because just watching –
Starting point is 00:33:00 you talk about a dog going up and getting in just a different type of aura out there on the field. That type of swag that you carry, that helped me add to the type of player and the type of aura that I got on the field that I feel like that. As you know, that that helps you to some dudes come in and they they worried about you and they already mentally psyched out and scared because they didn't see the tape. And then they feel you on the field like that, too. And the way you walk around and you walk around like you really that that dude i mean then you know it's gonna make them they sit and i'm watching them do their little back pedal and they peek and watching me run my routes and warm-ups and i turn around and i'm damn sure looking at you the whole way but i'm not looking at you to to evaluate you yeah i'm looking at you so you know i'm looking at your ass and i'm and i'm hearing because i know you watching me right so it's that type of feel. Like I get a little bit from different guys in different ways to kind of,
Starting point is 00:33:48 you know, blend it together and make me. Let me ask you this. I had a problem. You know what used to bug me? I catch 700 balls in practice and then come game time they throw me three. And then some weeks I go, I get like five balls the whole week and then y'all throw me four. I'm like, bro.
Starting point is 00:34:05 I need some consistency. I need some consistency. I hate that. And honestly, to be honest, I never really had to deal with that too much, especially with Aaron because we practice the way we play. Right. And the way that both of us got, the reason why I walk around on Sunday the way I do is because I did it a million times.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Jerry Rice came to the house. I did a panel with him in 2018. We shoot it back and forth. I talked to him. I asked him in 2018, Super Bowl Atlanta. I said, like, why? It just looks so easy for you out there. Like, what was it?
Starting point is 00:34:35 Like, what's the secret as to why you go out there? You catching every ball, get the yak yards and all this. Like, what was it? He said, I never caught a ball because I saw it. I caught it because I saw it before. So them reps and just that repetition of this ain't the first time where you running down the field and I'm running the post. And there's been times where it's like a quick flash of practice
Starting point is 00:34:56 where I really remember catching that ball. And it's like almost like a sense of deja vu because I take those reps so serious that it makes it that much easier, you know, come game time. Something you probably never seen, Jerry died for a ball. I can't. I can't channel one. He didn't have some boys that can throw it, that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:35:15 But in Seattle, he was probably too old to be on that class. That might have been the only time. So did you ever go, hey, did you ever go to, did you ever tell Aaron or did you go to the court, hey, give me a look on this one? 100%. I never really had to, but there's been times, the one time, and we've already talked about this so I can say it, but the game winner 2017. Right. Right after I came back from a concussion, I got smacked by Danny Trevathan. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:44 I don't know if you remember that one. Yeah. The late, and then we had it like four days later, had to go play on a Thursday or on a Sunday or whatever it was. The second to last play of the game, he throw me a fade. So I think it's like 12, 13 seconds left in the game or something like that. Throw me a fade, and he threw it quick and too high. Right. And so I go up spinning, but I can't get it. Get it. I run back to the h a fade, and he threw it quick and too high. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And so I go up spinning, but I can't get it. Get it. I run back to the huddle, and he getting the call. He's coming right again. I said, throw it again. I said, throw it again. He never heard me have that type of energy. I said, throw it again.
Starting point is 00:36:16 And I just started leaving the huddle. I don't even want to hear the play. We need to do that again. He said, reload it. Did it again. Waited a second. Threw it right before Lewis turned his head. Just a little bit lower right here. Back shoulder caught a spinning through that thing.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Six grand later, I had to pay for that in the stands. But having those type of moments is what really like led to us being who we ended up being, was challenging each other and me not being afraid, knowing that we have that type of connection to say, hey, man. challenging each other and me not being afraid knowing that we have that type of connection to say hey man and and for a guy like aaron he like i ain't had too many dudes come back and tell me what to do right so that that's confidence and that just displayed confidence and that led to him you know and and when you have those moments those are the most gratifying moments because if i tell him to do that and then i'm gonna mess it up now you look stupid and it ain't gonna work and that could that could really hurt you hurt your relationship on the field yeah long term let me ask you this were you do you talk on the field you talking about like trash trash
Starting point is 00:37:12 look i i really i i do and i don't i i used to a lot when i first got in like i i kind of was chilling and trying to figure it out then i was once I started figured it out I started talking like in college I was I was a big shit talk then it got to a point where now man I find like I don't want to I don't want to sound bad saying this but I find value in just like almost looking through some dudes man like boys be out there trying to talk like it's certain people that I talked to like like like not playfully in a sense that we're talking but it's like a like a like a respect thing yeah like me and sauce was playing like we're gonna say some
Starting point is 00:37:49 stuff to each other like you make a play or whatever we're gonna say something to each other but it ain't like I want to fight this dude after this or whatever it's more like just two two alphas going at it you're gonna have some interaction or whatever but it's never nothing that's too crazy but to the point now where if you if I feel like you don't need to be talking to me like you ain't there like that's that's how it was with with richard sherman my my rookie year yeah like i see this dude out there talking or a key to leave i see the way they was talking to dudes and i'll be like okay it's about to be one of them games i get in there and them boys wasn't even entertaining me i was like i that felt different for me like i'm like okay this man every game he got a guy,
Starting point is 00:38:26 like he in his head, he talking, but he not even, he like, I'm not even going to get it to this dude. Like he ain't worth my words. And that's what I felt at least. That's how I took it. So I said, I need to get to the point where I'm going to start making dudes feel like that. You want to talk?
Starting point is 00:38:41 I'm like, I hit somebody. I ain't going to say what team it was, but I hit somebody last year. I'm going back and forth with it with a dude that i had respect for so we we talking kind of on the same type of thing as sauce it was a little nastier but that's kind of how me and him would get down in the game and then somebody else came around that was that was also a good player right he said something so i started getting on him and i'm kind of getting in him a little bit and then and his his teammate he kind of like trying to like you know put his hand in between like like all right like chill whatever and then another dude came over said
Starting point is 00:39:08 something i must have did that to him he oh all right all right all right he did that and then and then his teammates got the laugh they said bro go back to the huddle bro and i'm like get him like a style of grown folks business like that type of you know i mean you know growing up your dad would be like hey don't you can't be in the living room right now like you go down there and sit in the den for a minute that's how i feel like i'd rather i'd rather do them like that you know if you worthy then maybe i will but even for the most part man i'd just rather get out there and just ball like game hard enough to and i play too many plays to be out there messing around talking to you all day i know there's a there's a conversation being held austin rivers said he know 30 dudes
Starting point is 00:39:50 in the nba right now they can go play nfl yeah he said but ain't nobody in the nfl that could play in the nba yeah that's look i ain't trying to go viral. Look, I'll say this. I understand what he's saying. These NBA dudes are extremely athletic. They be 6'8 and being able to move similar to what a football player would be doing out there. But we're not talking about going and doing a combine. We're talking about the physicality that comes with playing. To go play in an NFL game.
Starting point is 00:40:27 And being callous enough to understand, like, if my dad run out there and just fall on the ground right now, he going to be hurt. Yes. Let alone getting hit and then falling on the ground. Correct. Like, just think about somebody that you know, that even when you were in the league,
Starting point is 00:40:44 somebody that was your age, think about them just getting hit, let alone, like, that's not even the fall part. Think about how many people you know that have failed and got hurt, let alone getting smacked and getting up. Dude fall on top of you. You fall on the ground, the ground hard. You fall that hurt, and dude fall on top of you. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boy, all of that is going on and that's what the whole
Starting point is 00:41:05 game is yes these dudes ain't getting out of one football game let alone talk about being able to play in the nfl there's zero shot yeah i don't know who i will pick you could look at some of the the the physical specimens you got some julio looking dudes in the in the nba maybe but i'm saying that they had had look had lebron or or Russell Westbrook or some of these other guys chosen. Hundred percent. Yes. That's different. But did you go and say, oh, here's the helmet, here's some shoulder pads, go play. No, sir. No, I can't get behind that and say that. Now, it's a it's a hard enough argument. And I'm not here to say more NFL could go to the NBA versus the other way around. But if you ask me i i know a handful of
Starting point is 00:41:46 guys that that i know could have made that you know and i'm saying even done this from the initial point right not like now like right it's tough man like you got first of all you got to be big as hell and all the big dudes is the big dudes in the nfl so what you ain't gonna put code miller he's six eight but who who he gonna go guard on the perimeter? Nobody. That's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not going to sit here and act like it's easy, but I could have did it. But I think football players are the most athletic.
Starting point is 00:42:17 They can jump the highs. They can run the fastest. They're the strongest. They're the toughest. Now, I'm not saying that other other sports baseball or whatever sports but i'm talking about if you talk about athlete for athlete football baseball basketball football as far as vertical jump because we vertical jump standing still they get a step they run and jump they get a run even for the combine for the combine yeah as far as flat out
Starting point is 00:42:41 speed ability oh no yeah it's it's not even close these dudes like i said the physical aspect is just one piece but then we get into the speed and and you know they they they agile but just being able to move on grass is different it's it's plus y'all got like four plays in basketball we got 150 we gotta remember it's a whole and a dude and a dude try to knock your block off and and we're gonna change the play you might get three calls in the huddle too these boys don't even be going to college for more than five minutes half the time in the NBA, so I don't know how much they're going to be able to retain like that.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Yeah, we got too much on our plate. I'm telling you. Who's your favorite NBA player? Damian Lillard. Damn, that was quick. Yeah. Is it because he's from the Bay Area or you just like his game? Or his game reminds you of your game first of all that's like my brother so okay so i like that
Starting point is 00:43:32 i like that there's the there's a sense of loyalty there but then when you talk about like if i had to go pick 10 dudes to go to like physical war with yeah like like that's one of them boys he gonna be front line with me and he because he we just we cut from the same cloth so that's the anybody that got the same type of mentality been through the same type of stuff from the same area so we we experienced a lot of the same things and share a mindset and just the style like we we we ain't celebrities we people know me because of football right they don't know me because i'm a fashion icon or whatever i mean i'll be dripped out oh yeah you got it you got the d.o.r. i got it on you see it's on the own but they don't know me because of that yeah they know me because of
Starting point is 00:44:14 football right and it's a lot of dudes out here that that are known from a lot of other stuff and you know their name you want to be known as a football player and that's and that's who he is he's like i want to be the best to do what i do or at least the best version of myself and i'm gonna make everybody around me better we've had very similar paths you know around the same age and and we just vibe so it obviously helps it being cool with a dude yeah absolutely you know but before it was even to that point like i've always been a huge fan of him going to a school that wasn't the biggest school and then you know coming into the league And doing what he did you know basically changing what people think about a school like like we were like
Starting point is 00:44:51 That's basically how they feel about Fresno now like Fresno was known for being the tough guys But it wasn't like they producing talent like like top-level all time y'all know for like garlic or something asparagus avocados like garlic or something asparagus or something avocados or something chill chill oh i don't know it's definitely agriculture we're at ag school all right but uh yeah it is what it is but but yeah dane we we share we share a lot of the same values mentality the way we feel about our family our kids and everything so i mean it's really not even it's not close who's the GOAT NBA Man I forgot you read your guy. Ah, man This man right here
Starting point is 00:45:36 Barton you got you got you you got you LeBron's and I love Brian So LeBron Brian is is a different type of dude man and and I and I love Kobe I got mama mentality on on the inside of all my cleats and it's it's a piece of all these guys that I that I love but when you talk about just I mean that he he Randy Moss for me right it's a little late now it ain't gonna happen do you wish you could have like had a son early enough that you in the NFL and he in the NFL? Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast,
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Starting point is 00:46:46 pivotal part of them winning that super bowl i don't know why colleen catch the podcast the nfl daily with greg rosenthal every day subscribe today and you'll immediately be smarter and funnier than your friends and who doesn't want that listen now on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. What would that be like for Tate? Oh, my God. Well, first of all, I don't know when I would. I ain't got that many years to play to get a son in the league.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Well, I'm saying even from the beginning, I ain't going to be playing that damn long. Yeah, 20, you have to be like Tom Brady. Right, right. I would say I wish that maybe, maybe like all I wanted was a healthy baby on my first job yeah that was what was most important but I wish that if I could have chosen it would have been a boy first cuz I feel like a boy at this point like my daughter being in school people starting her classmates starting to know who I am and what's going on and I feel like not that she doesn't care about that and it's not cool for her but I feel like
Starting point is 00:47:45 naturally a boy would enjoy that and right and take advantage of it yeah you can take him in the locker room you can have him on the sideline he get like Steph Curry like Steph Curry in his day like he did with his dad exactly you know on the shooting the shoot around and doing all that see the boxers in the ring they got their son right like yeah like a little baby girl being there but she's just gonna be in there just because daddy in there but son gonna be in there like really like seeing like he's gonna be looking like okay that's i'm on the field okay that's that's uh that's jaylen ramsey over there like i want him to be able to soak it in and really know my daughter don't care about jaylen ramsey you know what i'm saying and and and i want my son
Starting point is 00:48:20 to be really dialed into the game while i'm in it to be able to you know we're gonna be around the game as long as i'm i'm here so he's still gonna be able to be there but I want him to have been like people like I'll tell you about my dad yeah I never really saw my dad go to work like that so I like I hear about all the legends and all of that but I'd be like man I just wish I would have been able to like experience that all y'all saying about that like if my son was able to see me play and be you know seven eight you know years old watching like and be in school and really know like my dad really is the best at what he do i feel like it's a lot of do you wish you'd had the son earlier so
Starting point is 00:48:55 are you going to still how about this are you going to stick around long enough so he can see what dad does see that's that's the million dollar question i feel like that's that's one of the main questions I get in general now. How much you got left? Because I feel like whatever, it could be this or that. And I say, man, I truly can't say that. This game has given me a lot. I still feel incomplete since obviously having hoisted that trophy yet. But I can't really give a full answer of how much longer I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 00:49:23 But if it keeps looking like how it's supposed to, or if we can get it back looking how it's supposed to, rather, I think, you know, I got a little bit more left in me. So we should be able to keep pushing. How about this? I'm going to get you out of here. I want to ask you two questions. Give me your Mount Rushmore basketball.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Give me your Mount Rushmore football. Wide outs, football, or players? I'm going to ask you your top five wide outs. You can do all time or you can do current. But I want you to give me your Mount Rushmore NBA players, Mount Rushmore NFL players. Okay. Always, you know, four heads.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Who I think is the greatest or my favorite NBA? Give me your Mount Rushmore. How do you want to list it okay okay okay um obviously mj at the top i i'll probably go i'll probably go brian second co for me my my favorite basketball player growing up was Allen Iverson. Okay. And that's where I get the shake from and what I brought over to the football world as well. So for me, AI is going to be probably fourth and fifth.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I could throw in my other favorite, which is probably going to shock a lot of people. Well, it shouldn't. But if you know me and the way that I play basketball Darren Williams was was one of my favorite basketball player Oh, you talk so yeah So that's that's that's that's the guys that I that I like the most if I had to do the greatest it will maybe just probably swap out the fifth and Got magic bird Yannis KD the shack
Starting point is 00:51:04 You got Magic, Bird, Giannis, KD, Shaq. Yeah, I probably have to say I was going back and forth. I was going back and forth. See, forgive me on the outside world if y'all don't feel the same way, but I never have felt obligated to throw in old greats just because they were founding fathers. Okay. I truly think that you got gotta put the best basketball players and if i feel that you know this guy is better than than magic or better than and i'm not saying specifically him but whoever i'm gonna say who i feel like i
Starting point is 00:51:38 like the most okay so i i i didn't watch kareem the way that maybe you watch kareem so i'm not gonna put kareem in there. He's by far one of the best of all time. And that's, I mean, the numbers say it, the legend, all of that. But if I'm picking for me, I would probably say Shaq over Kareem for me. Not going to get much argument from that. Okay, give me your Mount Rushmore wide receivers. Randy. Jerry. Calvin, T.O., and probably Marvin.
Starting point is 00:52:12 You only get four? Oh, I thought you said top five. You said Mount Rushmore wide receivers. Mount Rushmore wide receivers. I'm going to let you have top five wide receivers. So your top five wide receivers of all time is Randy jerry yeah teo megatron calvin calvin third calvin third t04 t04 and marvin harrison field yep that's that's where i'm at with my top five and i guess i guess uh we're gonna put marvin on the bench if it's just a rush more so Marvin got it Marvin got to come in
Starting point is 00:52:46 if somebody get hurt get Nick hey man he I think he he'll understand what I'm getting at you know I love the fact that I'm saying his name I mean it's a lot of receivers to play this game so it's real tough and that's another one that I was kind of on the on the tail end of being able to watch and I still have them in my top five so that should that should tell you as me being you know I'm 31 years old right I feel like most people are gonna be talking about marvin gonna be 41 years right give me your top five wide receivers currently playing that take with me you can put yourself in there you can leave yourself out well well i ain't leaving myself out if you're talking about if you want the best i want want the best. I want the best. I want the best. Separate list, then I can leave myself out.
Starting point is 00:53:26 But if you're saying the best, 1-7, you're probably going to go 18 after that. Okay. See, the thing is this, man. I feel like Jets, he kind of changed this. But over the last six years, there's only been one person that people can't take out of that top three and that's me so I feel like if you putting if you talking about my favorite right now, I would say CD lamb is probably gonna be Third for me fourth. I put CD fourth reek third and
Starting point is 00:54:09 Third for me, fourth. I put CD fourth, Reek third, and fifth is always the hardest one for me. Because it's too many dudes, man. It's not like when I came in the league, you had the same top three guys was like the ones that get talked about. And now it's such a passing game, and these dudes is taking whatever they taking before they start getting tested. They might stay in their system forever, and they just turn into superheroes. Early on, where you got, you know, Jamar Chase. I probably have to put Chase at five. Him or, I don't know, my Eagles boys over there, they be doing their thing too. AJ. Yeah, AJ is, he another one that's real consistent and just can ball on and do it in so many different ways too.
Starting point is 00:54:56 I always ask people when you're doing your top five, it's third and eight and it's man-to-man coverage in the boundary. That's what i'm choosing it off of i'm not choosing off of just production i'm choosing off of who gonna get open when i need them to get open man-to-man coverage or you know provided to get doubled do you like versatility can play x they can play z they can play slot they can do it all you everybody that i listed does do that and and that's that's how i feel because i'm i'm i'm you know starting 2017 that's when i started really getting in a slot like that right and and i feel like if you can't get it i
Starting point is 00:55:31 feel like it's harder to get outside so i like if if you are only a slot guy it's hard for me to put you as a yeah for sure five receiver in the league because once you get in it's just a lot less room out there it's you you're a lot more limited on the routes you can run. So you've got to be able to really create separation and operate in a phone booth. And that's, you know, when I think about what's led to me having a successful career, it's that exact thing. So I probably have to put Chase at that five right now, just the way he's playing. Coach Belichick said you're a Hall of Fame wide receiver. You have 872 catches, a little less than 11,000 yards,
Starting point is 00:56:06 almost triple-digit touchdowns, 95 touchdowns. When it's all said and done, is Devontae Adams a slam-dunk first-battle Hall of Famer? When it's all said and done, I think that there shouldn't be a question about it.
Starting point is 00:56:21 I think in today's world that not many dudes get their flowers at you know during so i think a lot of times just like when people die and then they turn into everybody's favorite rapper and then that's how i go yeah you start posting everybody listening to nipsey now and you know five minutes after he got killed it's like i never heard you i've been hanging out with you for 10 years. Nobody mentioned Nipsey. And you always playing music. I ain't never heard one Nipsey song come out your phone. Now that's how I feel. I feel like that's how they kind of do, especially now it's getting a little watered down with so many successful whiteouts.
Starting point is 00:56:57 It's starting to take the value of, you know, some of the things I've done down. And, but I think, you know, provided I keep doing it you know I have 1500 yards 21 1500 yards in in 22 if I do that two more times now we in the top 10 all time right and and it's only so many people with over 100 touchdowns and I'm gonna have that hopefully in the first few games so if you're looking at the numbers or if you're looking at the tape, I truly believe that there's nothing to talk about. What can we expect from the Netflix series, Wide Outs? They follow you, JJ, Kittle, Debo, and Armond St. Brown.
Starting point is 00:57:37 What can we expect? What does the audience, not the Raiders audience, but what does the audience as a whole that doesn't know Devontae that probably wasn't Packers fan or not Raiders fan what can they expect to see from you in this film? You're going to see just 100% unfiltered I mean I had a mic
Starting point is 00:57:56 on me every single game twice a week in practice they went and followed some of the private life taking my kids to gymnastics birthday party at the house right they gonna see just just the real tape and you know you can you can watch an interview and you can hear and obviously I come on here with you doing stuff for ESPN you ain't gonna see the real nobody right but when you when you you know a little interview
Starting point is 00:58:19 after the game you're just gonna get the the post game interview type person but you come on here you see a little bit more personality, me sitting here talking with you. But then the more you get that unfiltered, in the home, you know, going around town and daily, you know, day in the life type, you know, follow. They're going to see that dog, Tayhawk. They're going to be able to really see what I'm about and the way that I talk, the way I think. And hopefully get a lot more respect. And hopefully they already got a lot of respect. But, you know, the people that maybe don't truly understand what I'm about, they'll be able to get a real up-close picture at that.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Because, to be real with you, when that mic was on, it was on so much that it got to a point that I didn't even think about it. And they ain't telling you, hey, your mic is on, you know, whatever. We getting a game. And I wasn't sitting here saying something rah-rah like it was, you know, like how Jarvis did them boys on, what's the little hard knocks in the room? And he hit them with the, I'm not doing none of that for the TV. None of it was for the TV. You ain't getting nothing for show.
Starting point is 00:59:18 You got everything for show. Right. You know what I'm saying? I like that. That's what you're going to get from me at all times. And I had a couple teammates that was having trouble with it because i'll be they was feeling like they was gonna get in trouble when i'm sitting here being me on the sideline you know displeased with a drive we had or a call that was made or whatever and i don't even know
Starting point is 00:59:37 exactly what's going to be aired and if you're going to see certain things but i'm gonna be me regardless right so when that might get on there you just gonna hear what would be happening all the time so when you in the fifth uh row and you see you're gonna now be able to hear what was being said and sometimes it's gonna be some good stuff and sometimes it's gonna be some some real passion and i want them to understand that that's that's the real me and i wanted to make sure that i told the people that came to the house and to record the way they shot everything I said I don't want no corny stuff on here I don't want nobody thinking that this is for tv or whatever like it I want them to know that whatever they get in here is is what they
Starting point is 01:00:17 have not seen yet but what has been you know occurring this entire time tell you your marriage you settle down and it seems like you decided to get married at an early age um what made you decide to do that and do was it hard for you to make that make that decision it wasn't hard at all i i one of the first people i met at fresno state was my my wife now and um a great friend before we even got to the point where we were boyfriend and girlfriend. So when I came in, I had a girlfriend from high school, so we couldn't really vibe the way we wanted to. I got this beautiful girl that lived in the same apartments as me, and we were just truly vibing.
Starting point is 01:00:54 And, you know, I respect it. And, you know, not that I would have been like this, but she's not the type of girl that would have been cool with me trying to get at her with a girlfriend anyway. So you broke it off with her back home. cool with me trying to get at her with a girlfriend anyway so you broke it off with it back home when that when that fell apart she had a boyfriend at the time and then it just so happened that you know and then i was i was single just chilling hanging out and then when they when they stopped they thing we ended up hanging out as friends again and we would you know go eat but it wasn't even dates it was like just legitimately kicking it i would walk downstairs her apartment was like on the floor
Starting point is 01:01:25 below me and then like down the hall a little bit did you walk a little heavier when you was walking by like letting her know that you coming by i did well i'll be walking by her her bedroom was right by where i had to come in my little gate to get into the stairs so i'll come through she knew i was there and walked through and then you know we started hanging out and I knew right away that this was this is a really solid wifey material you never know right away if you're gonna marry the person right I knew this is wifey material for sure like never been kissed so I'm like this I need to make sure you the longer you go in life trying to find one they just going through more stuff and now you got to worry about what they've been doing the last 12 years as an adult yeah so we got together when we were still kids right, you know at this point
Starting point is 01:02:07 So cuz you got to understand that when you marry somebody you date somebody you dating a childhood you dating a childhood and And they don't know yeah And and they gonna they gonna fabricate some stuff now, especially if they didn't been through something So they gonna fabricate. Oh, yeah, you know, whatever but it's a real truth And it's some people that know the real truth out there and i don't me being me i don't need to be worried about something like that so you know um honestly i never really pictured myself getting married before the age of 30 and here i am you know engaged and married uh you know by 26 so i'm like this this is this is some solid especially me being me it's not easy finding
Starting point is 01:02:45 somebody that just want to be around because because you are who you are like as a true person they want to be around you because you are who you are in the public eye and they want that the the money or they want the attention and the notoriety just to be around it and i'm not that type of dude i don't i don't have nobody in my camp i I rarely even kick it with a lot of NFL dudes. I'm always with the people I grew up with, so that's how I get down, and people I went to college with and stuff like that. So I just stay true to myself, man.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I'm going to find somebody that match with me well and just so happen to have them real early, and I thank God for that, really. I'm going to get you out of here on this one. What do you guys have to do to dethrone the Kansas City Chief? We're going to have to win a Super Bowl, for real. I mean, at this point, we beat them the last time we played them. So we went out there the day after my birthday, played them on Christmas.
Starting point is 01:03:37 And that was a great treat. Even though I didn't go out there and have a great game, I was ecstatic. The last time I played in that stadium, it was bad. We lost the game. You know, I was able to step on their neck a little bit, but we lost the game, left the game, and got in trouble. You know, I had a situation happen. So being in there on Christmas with the squad, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:56 you're a long way from home, it's cold, and to go in there and beat them in their own stadium, that was a good feeling. But them boys still won the Super Bowl, so they're like, okay, you won the battle, but we won the war. So gotta we're gonna have to do a little bit more and I think we got the potential as a team we just gotta put it all together what's it like seeing Patrick Mahomes play up close it's do people get it do people really understand how great he is I think they do because I think it's enough people on TV making sure they know and and he do his job to make sure that they
Starting point is 01:04:28 see it consistently time after time and he's a game changer he didn't have so many different times the game that sticks out to me is not last year even a year before it was like three years ago they was playing the Texans in the playoffs and he was getting a head beat in they were down 24 nothing and I'm watching so I'm at the crib we got a game so they played the early game we got a game in Green Bay the little the little 415 315 whatever so I'm watching this I'm like these boys ain't got knocked out I'm like all right let me jump in the car hop into yours of course so I so I whip over to the stadium I go sit my backpack in the locker dap up up Aaron, whatever, walk by. And they got, you know, you walk in the locker room,
Starting point is 01:05:07 they got the games on just to set the mood or whatever. And I'm like, them boys getting smacked. They like, when the last time you seen a game? I said, bro, 20 minutes ago. What you mean? I look at the TV. These boys is winning. I said, what happened, bro?
Starting point is 01:05:19 They said, Pat, the magician, he did it again. I said, all right, well, at this point, can't nobody ever feel good about a lead on that team. You got to play a full game for them boys. And we did this last one, but we're going to have to do it quite a few more times to dethrone them. Devontae Adams, ladies and gentlemen, appreciate you. Thank you.
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