Club Shay Shay - Deebo and Joe - Part 1: Steelers rank No 1 in Offseason moves + Mel Kiper backs Shedeur Sanders

Episode Date: March 27, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Myles Garrett could finally leave the AFC North in a possible shocking blockbuster trade, Mel Kiper backs Shedder Sanders saying that the Browns don’t need a QB this draft and much more! 10:00 - Steelers Rank No 1 in offseason 14:15 - Browns ranked at 22 this offseason 27:10 - Mel Kiper backs Shedeur Sanders (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Let me tell you something, Debo. Debo, it's my time real quick. Welcome back to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show. How you doing today, Joe? I'm doing great, brother, Debo. Another great day.

Another great day to be on the pod, talking sports, talking ball with my man. Long story short, let me tell you something. Can I tell you something? Okay, let's go. Tell me something. I am coaching my sons two second grade, third grade flag football team this year. Okay, okay. So we had our first practice Wednesday.

Do you know anything about the flag because you know it's a little different? So look, my boys been playing out. It's their third year playing. So I've been going to all the games. I've been watching. They do seven on seven. They're still young. They're trying to get now.

They're throwing the ball a little bit. handoffs, mostly counters, you know what I'm saying, flag pulling techniques. So yeah, I'm excited about it. My boy out there, Joey, the team name, listen, my older son Joey, he was born in Cleveland. He wants his team name to be the Cleveland Browns. My younger son Jetty, his team's name is the Pittsburgh Steelers. So I got a Steelers team and I got a Browns team in the house. So both of my boys, Jet was born in Pittsburgh.

He's there. The Steelers are playing. And I got my boy Joey was born in Cleveland. and he's a brand. Okay. Okay. All right. So they ain't going to never play each other?

No, no, no. They're different age groups. I got a first grader and I got a third grader. Okay. Yeah. At some point, at some point, they may. When they get to, when they get the high school, middle school, high school. Yeah.

Yeah. College. College for sure. College for sure. Who, uh, who's going to want to go? go, you know, and play for your, I'm a moderate, who's going to want to go and play for maybe some place different, you know what I'm saying? Both of my boys, they, so my older boy, Joey, he's, he likes sports, he's into it.

My thing is this, I'm not living vicariously through my children. I'm not forcing them to play sports. They don't have to play sports. I want them to do what they love to do. You know what I'm saying? So my oldest boy, Joey, he's getting into it. So football is not a thing, sports. He's playing football and basketball.

Keep it open. I just want him to be in team sports. I just want him to be involved in something. And whatever he likes, I'm going to support it. My younger son, Jetty, my 7-year-old, he loves football. He's watching our highlight tapes. He knows T.J. Witt. Watt, McAvitts, Fitzpatrick, where his favorite players when I was playing for the Steelers.

Love still loves TJ. So, like, Jetty, I can't teach him. I can't teach him. He's, he's dead. He's just trying to catch over-the-head ball. Just, Dad, throw me the ball. He's just trying to catch it over the shoulder. So, you know, I'm going to sew into that.

That's good seed. I'm going to sew into that. I'm going to keep giving them knowledge. Right now, try your best. It's not about how many touchdowns you score. I need effort, son. I need you to try your best. Be paying attention.

You know what I'm saying? So that's what we're at with it right now, Debo. I understand why one is kind of into the sport real hard into another one. Yeah, you know, it ain't really there. I'm going to do this or that. You know what I'm saying? One was born in Cleveland, as you said. It's kind of something that, you know, he grew up around.

He was like, yo, it's no hope there. And he was, I understand you had to get that out of him. Because when he came to, you know, Pittsburgh, he realized like, oh, it is hope. And, you know, being able to win. He's seeing this. He's understanding this. And it's a great thing for him. And your other son, he was born there.

So he's like, hey, let's go. Football, let's go. Stillers, you win championships. You know what I'm saying? This is not just for the, you know. No matter what I do, you manipulate it. into that. I'm not manipulating nothing.

I'm just speaking facts. The people, Joe, like, Joe, you told me something like, I can't, I can't even speak, I can't even say what I think it was. I'm just giving my opinion, Joe. Okay, no, you did, all right, whatever, Deep Bo. All right, for sure.

I'm just letting you know, coaching the football, my boys out here, we work in and you just making it. That's why your son is born in Cleveland, he just, you know, there's no hope. No, I'm just saying, like, you know, you said your other son, he's like, we're into, into, you know,

he had something, he lived through something. You know this, you know, he understand. You know, the legacy. You know, your other son, he was in there. He was like, yeah, I like the sport. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, I'm into it, but I ain't into it.

You know what I'm saying? Because it was like, it was like no. Parents out here, people that, people that have children know, you can't, you can't, they're going to do. They're going to like what they're going to like. It just happens. I ain't go give you that. Yeah, they're going to like what they want to do.

You know that. They don't go do what they want to do. That's where the parenting come in place. I'm here to just feed it. So in the good seed. Yes, sir. I need effort. I need you to try your best.

Yes, sir. That's what I need. You talk about losing. That's where it starts. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, you know. Always doing that every time. No, I was just thinking like, like, it just, it hits me like that. You know what I'm saying?

Because I was, I was born and raised in aggregate. Okay. You know. And look at you now. And I wasn't really a sports fan like that. I watched sports because my dad did it. You know what I'm saying? It sounded like my son, Joe.

I did. And it wasn't until they went on head and left, and they fought to keep those sorry colors that I transitioned. Guess where I transitioned to. What you transitioned to? The Pittsburgh Steelers. Boy. And you see what it transitioned me into.

I went from being a good for you, Dibbo. I'm glad it worked out for you. It worked out for you. That's good. That's good. I'm happy for it. To us something, Joe. I'm happy for you.

But it all started in Ohio. True statement. True statement. True statement. They can't take that from you. Can't take that from you. I can't. That's you from,

that you from Ohio. I can't. I can't even blame you for it because you ain't had no choice of where you went. You know what I'm saying? You went to who wanted you first. And they was like, hey, we got to get him, you know. Yeah. Yeah.

All that good Cleveland love. I, that, yeah, okay. For the fans, yes, yes, sir. Yes, sir. Organization is something totally different, you know what I'm saying? When I said, when I shoot out my love, I'm giving it to the city and to the fans. Then people, what? They embrace me.

Well, open arms. Yes, yes, sir. Okay. Yes, sir. Joe. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

What's this guy's name? Ben Sol. Yep. he uh he said that he ranking the still is number one you know what i'm saying well no shit you know finally somebody come to the damn senses of uh over their ESPN like oh they're they're number one um uh what that's that was the epiphany that y'all that y'all came to no no we've been we've been saying this babe we've been saying this is from the gate Oh, Mark Kahn is cooking, okay?

They made the manhead... They made the man head chef a couple years ago, right? Uh-huh. But they didn't let him make his own menu. And now he can. Now we don't went from... We don't went from like a no-star, a no-star mission to the restaurant

to right now we're like a two-star missioning the restaurant. Okay. Okay. And the only thing that would make it a three-star, Joe, is... borough. But, hey, hey, I'm working on that. I know you're working on that.

I don't know. I'm, hey, I've been working on. But look, that's what, when I'm saying this two, D-Bow is when we're looking at this of them ranking the still as being the top team, it's because everybody's worried about right now, quarterback. If you didn't address the quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, all right, what since what we would have, what we would have did, Malik, the quarterback from Miami, the quarterback to sign to Miami.

Yes. That was the only quarterback that was. was really out there. So if we didn't make that decision and didn't think that was the move, we addressed what we needed. We lost our running back. We went to got riddle. We needed a wide receiver. We went to got Pittman Jr. Do you know what I'm saying? So what we're doing is making moves in the right spots, getting our team, right building. Like Ben said, build the team first. And then you get the quarterback and everything's going to be good. Because quarterback don't got to do nothing crazy. Quarterback got to come in there and be a legit

quarterback, not do too much. So I'm loving the way, and that's why my man Ben is kind of understanding what's going on. No question, baby. They said we need a receiver. We said check. Check, mate. We lost game well.

They said, okay, check, here come, Donald. Okay. They said, we need DV. We said check, check. We went on ahead, got two. And then signed a, sign, what's his name, Assonte Jr. Yeah, yeah. Immediately to make sure we had something else before we even got the other two.

which was, what was it, Dean and Brisker? Mm-hmm. Like, what we, what are we talking about? What are we talking about, Joe? Then you talk about your D-tackles, too. Can't forget about the big man that's going to let Queen run free. Sebastian, Joseph. Hey!

Yes. Ron Stopper, we need that. Big shit. It still-take-up two. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And the linebackers do what they're supposed to do. Let them run free.

It's still, it's still, early and all the players that we got is names, but each person is still going to have to perform. You know what I'm saying? No question. Looks good on paper. Listen, we don't want to be in paper. You know what I'm saying? We went on here and we check the box.

We're checking boxes. We're trying to get things done. We're not saying you got to win it on the field. We got to get it done. We got to come together. But I'm like, hey, you got to get it there. You got to get them there before you can go ahead and see how it's going transpire. We got what we had.

Well, we got what we have. Where are you going, Joe? My phone, my dog. Listen, we got what we have, and this is what we needed to do. We got guys that played this well last year, and now they're here. And hopefully, they keep elevating, okay? Number one, being over there, ESPN, what a great...

Um, and observation. Understand. I don't know. Observation. Observation was not really observation. You were probably listening to us.

But hey, when you go a trip on it, we appreciate it. Next time, just give us some credit. All right. But you know who they got at, what is that?

22. Who? Cleveland clowns. Sorry, Cleveland Browns. I get that mixed up sometimes, all that. And they about to drop to 32. Because miles.

Garrett, they don't restructure my man. They, they, they don't restructure my man's deal. The Browns made a rare contract modification to modify the language of Gary's deal. Instead of having him had his 29 million roster kick in on March 25th, the Browns and Garrett quietly agreed to language that would hold off on his roster bonus until the week before the start of the 2020 season. And the only reason Gary would be okay with earning that massive lump sum of money immediately, not earning it, sorry, immediately, is if he could be traded to a contender this off season. And Joe, you know what is so crazy about that?

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It's kind of a clip, an old clip that's after. We got that clip? Can we play the clip? Make it happen. That press got a lead our team right now. I need you to take Toy Romo, take a couple picks, and give them to Cleveland so you can pick me up. Please, I love to play in Dallas to this back out. Hey, hey, that was a message over there to Jerry Jones. And I know it was a little wild.

That was young. But it's still relevant, you know, it was only 2017, okay? Let's, you know. And, Joe, I know. the market what it was like in Dallas when they were trying to get old Crosby over there, okay? And they was willing to give just one first. But, but I believe they may be willing to give two for this. I need three.

Me personally, just looking at the situation, you know what I'm saying? Cleveland. What kind of money you think you make off the field? You know this, Joe. What kind of money you think you make off the field in Cleveland, Joe? It ain't really that kind of area for that kind of stuff. But in Dallas, Dallas, man, that man could probably make another 40 a year off the field. Oh, Lord.

Oh, yeah. So, you know, make some good money. Joe, Joe, hey, Joe, what do you think of the moves that Cleveland Browns just made here and with your GM over there, Mr. Berry with the boiling chicken? How do you think of this move, Joe? I think this is a smart move. It's a smart move. It's a business move.

It's letting the Browns, end of the day, giving us more time to see after the draft if Miles is going to still be there. Miles has already said that he wants to go. He will be there for sure if he's going to play for the bread. Miles is a higher gun right now. Love Miles to death. He's going to be in Cleveland.

If he has to get paid for sure, he loves the city and all that. But end of the day, he would definitely not mind leaving and going to play for another team. So that's already said. He said he wanted to go. And then when you get paid, you're going to have to do what you got to do. So he's still there playing.

Love it. Respectful. And he's going hard because he just broke the record. So for the Browns, you have a baller, a generational talent, a Hall of Fame player. If you can get crazy amounts of assets for him, you always keep that window open. You think two is enough. No, no. If I'm the Browns, I'm not doing it unless for three.

Three first round picks for miles. And I'm keeping that for teams to, I'm leaving up. open, I'm going to have to get a crazy haul for him. Because end of the day, if Miles Garrett broke the record and we still only won four games, so there is more holes to fill than just Miles, draft capital and all that stuff. So we can have a future plan. If we can get three first round picks for Miles, then you start listening to that. Then that makes it a more, more reason for us to do something. Because with Miles breaking records, with him being generational talent, it hasn't been enough for the Browns to win a championship

and giving him his bread, it is what it is. We need more. So we can get three first round picks, happen to get another defensive end, these rookies, somebody, we can trade, we can just get. We need more assets. So as much as they can get from miles, try to see, keep the doors open. But if you're not getting enough, then keep them on the team. Him moving the sign-up on his back just gives them more time.

Like, it's like, once you give him that bonus, then you know, you're not trading them, you're not moving them because you already paid them that bread. Once you, if you pass it back until right before the season starts, then that gives you all that time during training camp, all that time before the season to, if you need to trade them and somebody's like, man, no, bump that. Our team looks good during training camp. All we need is Miles Garrett. We'll give them the three first round picks. Then if you're just Browns, you always keep that window open because with Miles, you still on a Super Bowl contending team. So you always going to, if you're Andrew Barry,

keeping that window open to be able to get as much capital as you possibly can because he is a baller and we haven't won as many games as we want as we can. I mean, we won as much as we can with him, with breaking records, with being MVP. So you think somebody would give up three first rounders? If they don't, then we keep him. So this was just a move. This is just a move, just for the length, just to see if somebody gets married.

Don't forget, Miles is 30. Look, and then next season, look, we go. We start going one in five. Who knows? I think you'd be smart to take two. Be smart to take two? I hear you. But if I'm them, I'm trying to, I'm, I mean, you have to overpay.

I mean, throw another one in there, maybe a third or four-f winning, but I'm not giving you three. All right. Well, that's what he's going to chill. Okay. We'll see. We'll see what Mr. Berry. Two first and the second. Two first, two first and the second.

Something. Something outrageous because Mad Max got two first and the third. We're about two first and the third. 2 first and 3rd DM Joe. DM Joe right now 2 first and third What team are you?

Where are you picking? I'm trying I mean... Two first and third. Yeah, okay. Two first and third Joe. Two first and third, I'm listening to you.

How you... How you... How you... How you... And you just said yourself, the man had 23 sacks and y'all still couldn't get no more to...

No, you're right. You need helping a whole lot more positions than that. I'm taking it then. I've taken it. I'm taking it. Listen. Anything more than two first.

Listen, I love this move. I love this move for Cleveland, you know? And, hey, Barry, I'm 100% with you. This is the best move you can make. I love it. I love it a lot. Oh, please. And even if, listen to me,

but even if they don't give you no more than two, it's still worth it. It's still worth it. listen to me we need we need to get some more bodies in there you know you just you just need

you just need more and when it come down to it hey look here where y'all thinks where do y'all think miles plays next year peep it out it's either Cleveland

or Dallas right now they're saying they're saying right now they're saying it's Dallas 58% saying Dallas hey check the chat the poll right there Hey, y'all let me know.

What y'all think he's playing? Hey, that off the field money. Hey. It's just going to be... What do you think Dallas? What do you think Dallas will offer Cleveland to get miles? Two. Two first.

It's two first. Okay. Two first. And if they stutter a little bit, they might throw a third. Two first and the third. Two first and the third, you know what? Sign, sign, sign me up. Sign me all the way up.

Sign me all the way up. I was trying to over, I'm trying to over get because I'm like, if we're going to get rid of Miles, I don't want to. I love Miles. He's been the best player. But when you're trying to go really build, we need to build. You got a new coach in there. He needs more than mine. Got a new coach in there, man.

Hey, don't forget, he ain't been in contact with the new decordinator yet now. Yeah. Is that going to be a problem for me? No, that's not a problem. I don't know. You're asking, I'm telling you. Hey, hey, I know. I know all the defense people that we got, you know, like, like TJ and

and Cam and all them, boy, they don't talk to the decoordinator that we got. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, Joe. If I'm a decoordinated, first thing I got to do, I got to talk to, I got to talk to my guys that's going to be leading to charge for me. I want you to, I want to talk to you, let you know my plan, where we're going, where we're headed, how we go do it. I need the buy-in, baby, I need the buy-in.

I need you to get them to buy-in. They're going to get the buy-in on when the OTAs start. When I show up on there with my notepad locked in, then you'll know that they don't show up. If you get there and you don't like what you're seeing. What you mean? How do you know, I like what you're seeing? You go buy-in anyway? How you going to, what you mean?

We hear. Yes. Listen, we ain't, I'm going to buy-in. We ain't. I come in here and you got me playing a two technique. Look, if that's what the defense calls for, if that's what defense calls for, who are you going to come? This is the coach.

This is the coach. Defense coordinator. That's my biggest team. That's the type of, I don't want to coach you. I don't need you on my team. You let him know, my team. I don't want you on my team. Play you, you the outside backer.

So play outside backer. All right, bet. When the coach come in and tell me, Joe, you corner you right now, you got to play cover two. What I'm going to say, no, I'm a better man corner. Shut up, Joe. Play cover two. All right. I'm going to hold down this cover two.

All right, that's what I'm going to do. So I'm going to go play the defense exactly the way you call it. And then it don't work. Now I'm looking at you crazy like this. Well, I did your cover two. You know what I'm saying? Give him a shot. I'm about all the way in.

From the beginning, you get him. Put him at the two. Come on the three technique. And tell him, just play the defense I don't have told you to play. Debo. He just had 23 cents. Huh? No, no, no.

And you go roll with that. No, no, no. See, no, see. He's not going to put my mouth. I'm just going. Look, we talk my mouth. If we're talking about Miles, if we're talking my mouse, he's not going to put him in the two. I'm just saying, what if we ain't got nobody to stop nothing, man?

Why would he do? Man, that's, that's on, that's on y'all. That's on y'all. But if that's going to make the team win, Miles might have to go in there, hold it down. You know what I'm saying? We talked about our man. Sometimes you might have got to do the ugly things. I don't know.

Get dirty a little bit. If it works. You got to come in with somebody in. But, like, same time, your defensive coordinator is not going to be. be dumb enough, I would hope, to put miles after two when you have him to just had 23 sacks. Maybe for a look, you know what I'm saying? D'Bos, you just out here just trying to make me mad. I like conspiracy theories, man.

You know me. I like to come up with things that make difficult decisions. You're coming up with, sometimes you just say stuff that don't make sense just to try to make me mad and be like, yeah, but what if they do that? But hey, I'm just, listen, I can't help what your reaction is to, hypothetical. All right. So what,

if you came in and Dick Lobo just was like, all right, Debaud, would Dick Lobo put you out at corner? And if he told you to go out there,

if he told me to play corner, this time you got to go out to the place. If he said I could play it, you damn right, I would. There we go. Okay. Okay.

Okay. You damn right. Because Dick Lobo ain't never, ain't never. He would never set you up. He would never set you up. He would set you up. That is disgusting.

That is a, like that is the highest disrespect of form I ever heard in my life. What? Comparing your D-Corporonator to Dick Leboe and what Dick Leboe would do. Are you out of your mind? Well, they're not. Okay. Lost every sense that you had left all seven senses or six, whatever it is.

I'm done with this shit. Zero disrespect. Zero disrespect to Dick Lebo. Zero. Zero. Zero. Zero. Dibbo, that's, you know what?

My bad. My bad. I did not mean that. But you know what I'm talking about. So you don't put yourself on mute. Joe, look here, man. Yes. Your boy, Mel Kiper over here, he said something that I finally totally agree with him.

About Shadoe Sanders. He said Shadoe Sanders over Ty Simpson. The Browns don't need quarterback. He said the Browns don't have to worry about Ty Simpson. They've got a better quarterback in Shador Sanders than Ty. he exceeded expectations by miles considering what he had to do to overcome obviously better than Dylan I think he's the Brown's quarterback for the future Joe we think that Joe that's yeah that's that's I'm not here to give us a door love speech but since he was coming out nothing changed

when it was verse him and ward coming out of the draft in my opinion opinion. So he had him break high in his draft board. He was going to be one or two for Mel Kiper. He was up there for me too. So when people then, all a sudden back down and he goes as a fifth round draft pick, in my view, he never changed. Nothing changed in my view

of Shador. So, giving him the opportunity to have a line, have a year in the system, have a year where he has actual real wide receivers that he can hand it off to with the running game. You know what I'm saying? Like a true chance to be a starting quarterback. And that's where Mel Kiper,

And I think that we're speaking on the same level. People are looking at Shador since he went in the fifth round like a fifth round quarterback. I am not. I'm still looking at Shador like the quarterback I thought could have went one or two, him or Ward, in the draft. So Ward had a good year, but it wasn't nothing electric. You wouldn't think like Ward had to be in a quarterback competition, but he's the starting quarterback for the Tennessee Titans moving forward. It wasn't the best.

Same with Shadour was a starting quarterback, had that title for the Cleveland Browns. That was his rookie season. Now, the next year, he has another year, boom. under his belt, off season, go through the whole thing, being able to get additions, being able to get other receivers, being able to work with them, work with the ones during OTAs, during training camp. He was working with the practice spot. He didn't get any reps.

So the season happened, rookie year, it's a lot going on. You're a quarterback, just things moving, change, and pace. So now I think him having this full offseason, I thought he would have been a first round pick last year. And that was the second year coming in like Cam Ward. I'm kind of looking at Chador's progress like I'm looking at Cams. Wasn't the best but still has things he can work on.

He can do better. But now he's his second year. Believe in him. Let's go. Let's see what he can do. So with me, I wouldn't take Ty. I don't think he's better than Shador, in my opinion. Other people may think he is.

So let that to each his own. I'm not saying Ty Simpson is in the bad quarterback. Hope he gets into the league, does well. People don't judge him off of his rookie season. Let's him get around a team that's actually pretty good. You know what I'm saying? Depending on what teams he falls to, he might not have to do too much. He might look better than Cam Ward did.

You know what I'm saying? So I think situationally, you just can't put stuff on quarterbacks that fast and be like, no, he's the starter. No, he's the bench player. No, he's not good. We've seen it with a lot of quarterbacks. Tua looked good. He was able to get another contract, $50 million.

Collie looked good. Sam Donald looked good and didn't look good. Then started looking good. So it's like different situations, each quarterback being in a different team, being able to have time to work. So I'm with Mel Kuiper because I'm like, I'm a shoddor guy. I think that if he gets the chances to go out there and really just play football, he will be a great, he would be a starting quarterback in this league.

Yeah, I'm going to agree with you and Mel on this one. I just, I don't even, I don't even know if I think Ty Simpson even gets taken in the first round, dude. I just don't see anyone there to taking because it's, it's not really enough. side that he could offset that what teams would be needing to get, you know what I'm saying? Like, just looking at it. Like, his whole thing of his abilities, you know, to be able to, like, read and process, you know, the defense is fast enough so that, you know, he can anticipate the throws.

Like, he's waiting for guys to get open and then, you know, making the throw. You can't do that in NFL because that window, as soon as that window open, it'll close on you. And then when he's pressured, he panics a little bit. You know, he tries to speed up his process. He stops looking down the field, you know, for open receivers, you know, stuff like that. And what? He only got a full one year actually starting. So it could be inexperienced while all that is.

You know, it's just, I think it's too much of a risk to take on the first round pick. The quarterback position ain't really that strong. What is it, Mendoza? He'll go to the Raiders. obviously because who they got some dude O'Connor or something over there. That's the only quarterback. I think that's the only quarterback they got on their roster right now. So he's going to go there, I think, just simply because of that.

And after that, you know, I don't, I can't go get another guy. I don't think another quarterback come out of the first round, you know. I think with the Browns, if we want to do that, we need to go ahead and get offensive line and we need to get a wide receiver. So somebody else that can we still, we addressed the, we addressed the line. No, that's what I'm saying. We got two first. So one of them first need to be, if we can get either Tate early.

I'm saying that after you get rid of the miles, you get two more. Get two. That's just building. That's what I'm saying. That's a lot of good capital. That's a lot of good capital for some players. And I like position, positional players. We need to get a tackle.

We need to get a receiver out of our first two picks. And then we get some more. then it's just that you can get you never can have too many linemen get another lineman for sure a baller like so this definitely offensive line then it'll be yeah i think they'll be in the right path yes sir but again what it's the cleveland brown so i'm luke wilson join me each week for film never lies since retiring from the nfl i've had a lot of my mind and now got my own show so if you're tired of lazy takes if you want honest conversations join us each week Film Never Lies, available on all TSN platforms in the IHeartRadio app. Why hasn't a woman formally participated in a Formula One race weekend in over a decade? Think about how many skills they have to develop at such a young age? What can we learn from all of the new F1 romance novels suddenly popping up every year?

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at making miles moving the money to a bad thing. It's just giving us more options. I mean, y'all not too good at picking the right options, though. Let's, yeah. Right. I mean, I'd rather have them than not. Now it's just on, now it's on them. Now we literally can look at Barry with the picks that he picked and see who it is. Time will tell. But like the Junkins, hit, okay, tight in, hit. Okay. Now we get some more. Let's see. A linebacker. Defense player at the year. rookie the year, okay? Like, not bad.

That's crazy, Joe. One time. Listen, y'all had both. Defensive player at a year, rookie at a year, and y'all won what? Four games? Trial. We get one more. It's not as bad as it looks.

We need some more, for sure. I'm saying, it's going to be all. Now, listen. Now, listen. You say you get a lot from miles. I understand you get some points on the board. Listen, you said you get a lot from miles. I understand you get a lot from miles.

But what you're going to have to realize is you're going to, now take away those two to three guys that are blocking him that allowed your other guys to do what they did. So now that rookie linebacker that was running around doing everything, he's going have somebody. And you know what I've been like to do, my man. So we're going to get a lot for Miles too because for Michael Parsons, they got two first and a player and they had to give him a new contract. Miles is coming under a deal of 40. He's already coming with the deal. So they don't have to restructure his contract. That's good business. So they don't have to. had to give him a new deal. We're already coming with the smooth.

What was they care if they had to give him a new deal if they got him? Y'all just made it easier for somebody else to get him. Yeah. Yeah. That's good for it. That's good. That's good for your business, yeah. Yes.

I understand. Hey, Joe, speaking of Joe, we got another Joe. Joe Flacco over there with the Bengals. He had a little something to say about, you know, nobody's starting him, signing for a starting up position. Listen, what the holdup is. I probably do feel that way. I feel like I have unfinished business.

That's part of why I'm still here and playing and doing all those things. And not being one of those guys to go sign somewhere. Yeah, it pisses me off a little bit. But at the same time, I'm very happy to be here. And that's also why I don't see this as the end. That's just not how I'm viewing it in my mind.

like I feel like I can help a team win. And yeah, it may be in a different role here, but I do still think I can help this team win in that role. I had a lot of fun with Joe, and Joe's the guy. And believe me, I wish I was a guy somewhere. And I think teams are dumb for not having me be that guy. But it is what it is. And I'm not going to let me, I'm not going to let them get me down.

I'm going to be the person I am and just approach football the way I always have. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Hey. How you feel, no, Debo, you tell me first how you feel about, how you feel about Mr. Flaccoe? Hey, he said dumb.

He said they dumb. Joe, Flaccoe. Joe Flacco. I'm talking to you, man. Hey, I don't know what or, like, who you're talking about. I would love for you to give me some, some clarity on the team or the teams if that's what you're saying,

you know, they're dumb, stupid for not signing you to come in there and start. So you're obviously looking at a team or starters that are currently on a roster and you're, you're better than or whatever. and you could be the starting quarterback there. And I don't have a rollerdex of the starting quarterbacks in the NFL right now.

So I just would love a little bit of clarity and put it out there where you think you would be starting and help the team better than the starter that's there. That's all I'm asking for. Yep. And that's exactly what I'm looking at. Because when you say that and you say that, you know, You know, at the role that you're in with the Bengals, you're a backup, Joe's the guy. Okay, you said that, Joe's the guy. You know that you're back up here in your role.

What other teams, what other teams are you thinking that you're going to be the starting quarterback for? I'm thinking now, off the top of my head, basically, he played for, he's looking at the Browns, the Steelers, you know. He's looking at anybody that doesn't have a certified quarterback, somebody that's looking for a quarterback, maybe needs one. Hey, listen, I don't want to start, I don't want to start no shit, okay? That's, hey, look, that's what I'm telling you. Look, Gibo, you brought it up. He's talking about other teams and he's looking at who's quarterback's better than. Popted into my head.

Yes. I don't know if he's sitting back looking at the Kansas City situation. Okay. Yes. And thinking maybe y'all did this when y'all could have did this. Atlanta. You tell me, which one would you go with, Joe, in that situation? with my homes down for at least some time.

Who you going with, a proven or an unproven? You're going Flacco or you're going Fields? I saw what for me and what I saw would Flacco do with the Bengals and what he could do with some weapons, he's a vet. He could put the ball in a little bit of places. I'm not, I'm not. We saw they pick, you know what else he's looking at? Philip Rivers came off the couch and was out there slinging it around.

So if I'm Joe, last time you've seen me, I was starting, I was throwing it to Chase, I was throwing to Higgins, running up numbers. Joe, Joe, which one are you going with? Stop flying this way and that way and tell me which one you're going with. I said Joe. Joe. I said Joe. Hey. I said Joe.

That's the only thing I could think of. Okay. So where would you go? Joe. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you.

I'm just saying. I'm not, when I saw over. I know he just sitting that thing and slang it. He goes see it and get it there. What are you talking about? I am on the same page as you. So just give him a little bit of protection some time. His mind is sharp.

Joe Flaggow, like, he's not dumb. And that's why I always love him because if you got a receiver, quarterbacks, you want, he's going to give you a chance. He's going to get a DB a chance too, but he's going to give you a chance. Those a nice ball, throws it on time. He's going to believe in his timing. You need to be where you're supposed to be on time. So I like that in a quarterback when I know, boom, you got Andy Reid there.

So just for me, I'm sorry. I mean, I love Justin, but I hope he can do that. If you have these great coordinators that are so on timing, you've got to put the ball in these positions. Sometimes it might not be open. You're throwing in windows that you're throwing into these spots. And these dudes are really putting it there. Flacco's a spot guy where he's like, all right, I'm something.

He's throwing it before you get there. No question. So like, if the DB jumps it, it might be a pick. but I'm telling you, it's going to be, if it works, sometimes more likely than not. So I don't, maybe, I don't know. That's the only thing I can think of. When you say things like that, you're looking at the other teams around the league and like who you're better than. You know what I'm saying?

Like, man, they're tripping. I could be there because I think I'm better than whoever started on these teams. Yes. You are. I know if I were to say that old man, like, no, man, I'm back up here. because I'm behind Joey Porter Jr. You know what I'm saying? I'm the third corner.

But looking around that, man, somebody could have picked me up for show because I'm better than the Seattle corner. I know that. That's what I'm saying. Like, that's what I felt. Right. Like he was going to.

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