Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - Bengals beat Ravens, Chiefs fall to Cowboys, Packers STOMP Lions | NFL Thanksgiving

Episode Date: November 28, 2025

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to NFL's Thanksgiving slate of games where Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals defeated Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens, Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs lost to Dak Prescott and Dallas Cowboys, Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers took down Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions, and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE  Timeline:3:26 - Bengals Def. Ravens on Thanksgiving 37:24 - Packers Def. Lions 31-24, Amon-Ra St. Brown exits game early1:01:24 - Cowboys Def. Chiefs 31-281:05:02 - Play or Fade with PrizePicks  (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. Prize picks. It's good to be right. How you doing today, Joe? Let me tell you talk to Debo. Debo, it's my time real quick. Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe, hating please make sure you guys like and subscribe you don't want to miss nothing how you're doing

the day joe doing good brother dibo coming off a great thanksgiving how was your thanksgiving my brother it was it was good brother i can't complain i got to sit down and watch three games of football baby you know it don't it don't get much better than that and now i ain't eat too See, that's the crazy. I ate and slept and woke up and ate again and slept and ate again. See, I can't. That get me to 300. I can't do that no more.

I got to put a little weight on you, Vidi-Bo, and, you know, the food's slapping. Yeah, for the show, for a show. Yeah. Where are you at? I see you got a little different. See, you know, always I'm adaptable. Woke up, went to the crib this morning, ready for the show. Wi-Fi, completely down.

So I had to come to, I met my wife. mom's house, you know, lovely. We got to adjust, baby. You ain't know wrong with that. I just do some stuff together. I'm in her lovely chair in the basement, vibed up. Okay, that's what's up, man.

Then bangles went out there and, you know, they put it, they put it on the, they put it on the raiders, right? Yes, they did. Hey, listen, man, Joe Boy, that's my new favorite non-stead quarterback, man. I really appreciate you over there, man. I appreciate you, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, smoking cigars. Oh, you know, Joe Cool, smoking a cigar. cigar smack after the game no question no question man since the night to get up out there on that first that first drive and they go ahead roll joe out so y'all can see the the token move yeah the token move he is tensely for eight-yard completion next play brown i think went for seven then second down i think it was uh samples he he got a short pass he took for like what 15, 14, something like that. Then, I believe Brown got dropped for like five.

Yeah. Holding? It was a holding. It was a hold. First down, he hits chase for nine. I think Brown converted on the first, that next play. I think it was like two yards. And then Baltimore, they stood up, you know?

they bend a little bit but don't break they they hold them to a field goal it's three to nathan lamar comes out immediately what's the dude's name i mean charlie cooler cooler yeah though he hits him for like 17 next play lamar to likely for a hot eight henry converts that one on the third down for like four second down Mark do his thing. He's going to have scramble for a hot end. Showing the hamstring's good, you know? No question.

I could tell he don't like the slide, but you got to start liking the slide. He hates that. Yeah, he, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. You can look at it. I'm an athlete. I'm like this, bro, we're saving yourself because you don't want to keep taking the mix. No question. You don't want to be getting bopped up.

No, we need you. Then that man went on ahead and he went, what was it, almost 30 for the touchdown? Their yard toss, King Henry, you know, picking them knees up. Bro, it's crazy. He passed Jim Brown now in the yards. Like, I didn't really realize, you know, he was doing it in Tennessee for a minute. But, like, consistently getting 1,500s. So, yeah.

Shout out King Henry. When they done turned that thing into, you know, one of those passing, you know, it's going to turn into a real, real passing. You know what I'm doing? They didn't too many more than Moicans that's really just toting that pill. Crazy. Yeah. Bengals get out there.

and they uh Baltimore said hold up let's really test it let's check corner blitz corner blitz sat they sack they sack burrow he get up I'm trying to see I'm like hey get up baby get up they hold them they hold them down they end up forcing the

three and out the ravens get back out there dude and this one should start getting tricky yes the sack fumble recovery at the Baltimore six by the Bengals, bro. I think he was in the three.

It was at the three? He was at the three, brother. Oh, it might have been at the three or the two now. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, he was right inside of the five. He was underneath the five. Yeah. He was two and a half.

Matter of fact, it was the two, bro. Yes, bro. Because they ended up holding them and they went for it on fourth down. It was turnover and down. Right. Yes. Listen. We do's have...

Talk about putting out fire. Two and a half. Talk about, Debo, this is what you talk about. This is what you say. This is when you're like this. You talk about a blade of grass. If you have a blade of grass to defend, now he's going to defend.

A blade. Blade, bro. Yes. Yes. Okay. Yeah, because Ravens get it and they started at their two-yard line. Mm-hmm. Yep.

Because on that third down, Lamar missed Flowers high. Yes. They ended up going to three-and-out. it really didn't matter that they got that little false start before they punt it, but it was an extra yard. He was already at the, he was already heels on the, heels on the back. Yes, yes, heels on the back. That's the worst position of me. You know what?

I threw it over a punter's head like that. I wouldn't even, it wasn't even heels on the back. He just couldn't jump anyway, man. Boy had a bad hamstring. You know, Cincinnati ended up getting the ball midfield. I believe they got to about a third and six, and that's when they got that, that false start. but then burrow he moves around the pocket does his does his thing showing you all the toe good he hit the boy chase for the 13th that was a secondary route he ran a dig he was able to escape

so then he was able to break back out to go to the sideline so it was good goodbye burrow being able to create more time yeah and then when they got to the fourth and one and they just did a straight quarterback sneak i'm like oh yeah it's toe good don't even talk about his he put his left foot back with the broke toe to get more back i said he pushed off the toe I'm like, okay, you must be. Yeah, yeah. And you see they were showing that big ass thing he was wearing inside of his shoe. He kept switching the shoes to get sure his toe was comfortable.

I said, I know that hurt. Yeah. Then on that second down, like, that could have been a touchdown. Bro, that's, my man was out there, Tensley, this, he was out there. That's the thing about having with you got, very sometimes. You got Jamar Chase, and now he's taking T. It's a difference between Tinsley and Higgins when you got that second receiver over there. Not trying to knock him, but I was like, bro, run the fade ball.

You're chilling. Like, Humphrey jumped down like he was like he was like. Why did you stop? Because you think, you see this cornerback jump something like the ball. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, that's your quarterback playing that man. He's throwing you wide open. All the way. Like, all he had to do was, you know, he ain't, he ain't really, it's Burroughs first time back.

But you still should never stop on a route. He should be giving that thing out. He looks up. He would hit him right in his hands. No question. No question. And on third down, Burrow, get up out of that sack. I'm like, okay.

Oh, yeah. If you do the little flip to the running back, they get to the fourth down. They got to settle for the field. Good thing. They might have picked the screen if he would have threw it. Yeah, it might have been in trouble. It might have been in trouble.

It's six, seven. Baltimore, I think they get out there. I think they convert like maybe it was two first downs. I think one was a third down where Lamar scrambled. And then that next play after he scrambled, though, he missed Walker high. Like, that could have been a huge game. He was wide open. Devonte Walker, right?

Yes. Yeah. Yes, yes. Yeah. And the other first down I think they made was a second to 10 that Mitchell took like 12. There was checkdowns. Yep, yep. And then, bro, they get to that second down.

He hit likely on the short cross. This dude was 44 yards for the tutty. And instead of just holding on to the ball, squeezing it, your momentum is going to drop you forward. He tries to pull it out and stretch it over the line. How about, though, Devo? How about that get, likely? Ah, bugged out.

Bugged out. How about the effort? How about the reach? How about the punch? Can't stop. It's a hundred percent. Every blade, Debo. I was like, if you were just randomly on the hookahs, you tried to go tackle his legs.

They're going for the ball because that's going to be a touchback. Like, those are good football players making plays, like, not thinking nothing's ever over. Like, those are the teammates I want. Not stopping, yeah. Like you said, every blade of grass counts. Cincinnati gets the ball back because it bibles out the back. So they get the ball, I think, at the 20, the first play, they get off. holding penalty they go to like what is it first and 20 and burrow completes i think it's like

the next two downs he gets 19 in the back like third and one the runner back he converts that easily i think for like three and then burrow to that arms over bagdad right that man jamaar Chase is nice. And he threw it with late hands. He did a little, he did a slight. Hey, I like to let it play, though. Me too. They both were hansy.

They both were hansy. They both was hansy. What, nothing overly aggressive with it. You type me, I tap you. Me being in a DB, too, like watching these fade classes, watching these, like, hand fighting, you can, a push, you can tell us the DB. But if he give you a little something, I'm like, ah, he got me. That's not a flag.

That's not a foul. You know what I'm saying? Like any of these little chicken wings, he's a pro throwing late hands, giving me a little rock with late hands. You know what I'm saying? Like that's what Chase did. So that was a great play by the way I received. You can't, that's not an OPI.

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Oh, did he find him? Oh, the Chase. And that's when Chase, bro, they're double covering them. They got a man on the corner underneath and the safety over the top. He hit him with the post. Oh, and I snapped that thing back outside.

And he, bro, Burrow hit the ball right in between them. Great ball. I'm like, you're getting double covered and he's still hitting you with the, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's just good. Money. That's good on good.

good on good all day they end up stalling out they settled for a field goal i believe it's nine to seven now baltimore get out there i think it was like second down the marr extends the play again you know he is likely i think dirty bruh first down flowers i think he gets this coming out of two minute warning he get the yeah he get the opi What do you think? What do you think? What do you think, Debord? I see this one.

He, you don't have to do it like that. I think he, oh, he, he opened him. He opiopied him. Yes. Oh, yeah, that's no question. Like, you, you, you didn't, like, I don't think they understand how to just, like, give it that. Just, just hold him at a, at a, at a distance. Yes.

You know, like, don't, don't push. just hold him at a distance like you're trying to, you know, like when you, like, like it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a place in your hand instead of like, really shoving. You could place your head now you want, but when you start extending, like, damn. So, I mean, that was, that was, that was a way. Oh, yeah. No question. Yeah, that was that was, that was automatic. Yeah. They had to call. There's no other way. Come on, man. They end up getting to a first and 20, make a few yards, but on third down. Lamar gets sacked again. O.C. Where do this Bengals defense come from? I had no idea. I was watching the game, and I'm like, bro, like, Lamar, you won't, you know what I'm saying? Obviously, it's the Cincinnati defense.

They're historically bad. You're going to go down there and do what you got to do. These dudes was making plays, keeping them in the pocket. Like, you know what I'm saying? And DBs, too, even though sometimes it was a tough, it was tough cooking, but they was out try and make it work. Yeah, for sure. Dude, they end up having to punt the rock.

Cincinnati gets out there. First down, the Brown, he gets 12. Yep. And then what they do, penalty, false start. Was I, you know, Orlando Brown false starting a little bit, like, even then they didn't call it? I saw him jump early, a lot of plays. And I'm like, dang, you could throw the flag every time.

Yes. Dude, they've been letting these tackles move early so much. I knew I was a dream. If you were to slow that stuff down, they're moving before the ball moves. It's just that it's so close after the ball moves. The ref is kind of undecided, like, did he move or were? And I think the refs sometimes, like, he threw two in a row.

And then was like, can I keep on throwing a flag? I'm like, yes, you can. Like, am I going to kill the game? He's jumping. He's moving. He's moving. Throw the flag. He's moving.

Second to 10, bro. His, I think it was Tensley for, what was it? 14. But after that, they end up stalling out. They punt the rock. Now, Baltimore comes out. Tomorrow. With 36 seconds left, Debo. 36 seconds left before the half. Okay? Two timeouts. Yeah. And he ended up recovering it, dude. At the Baltimore. 15, wasn't it? Wasn't it? Wasn't it?

Baltimore 15. 19. Okay. They recovered at the Baltimore at 19, bro. Cincinnati gets out there and cannot do nothing. The defense puts out fires. Another field goal, they end up only going 12 to 7. In the halftime. Right. Baltimore, kneel out. They go 12, 7 in there because they getting the ball back and the Bengals defense come out there immediately at beginning of the third quarter and show up a force of three now.

Listen, I'm happy they won and you go know why I'm happy they won at the end. But where the hell did it come? Where did this come from? I haven't. Listen, when you get you a player back like Joe Burrell, it puts confidence everywhere on your team. It

brings everybody up and that is what I think we saw dude Cincinnati goes back out there gets the ball immediately goes like 10 play 61 yards for a touchdown they stay ahead of the change Burrell start

running avoiding sacks using his feet you go with that plus I think they ended up having like a 15 20 yard pass in appearance what's the dude's name Piron yeah Piron he was he was he was he was he was doing a little something here and there and then burrow did you see the little

did you see the little run he did you guys i ain't gonna lie he looked like he might have had a little bit of running back back in the day and then like just scared just trying to get get through there you know what he has he had a little vision but he had a little scary in him too at the time yes yes yes and then burrow finished that thing with a nice one on 14 y'all to Hudson with the one-hand catch. Man, Kyle Hamilton, in good position, in good space, but that's a great catch. You know what I'm saying?

Like sometimes again, another one where they let it play a little bit of. Hand-fighting, you know what I'm saying? But that's what's good on good. That's a great ball placement. Kyle Hamilton, that's where only he's going to be able to catch it and be able to one-hand and get two feet in. So, like, that's just good on good and then making a play. Yeah, it's what, seven to nine.

yeah i'm thinking i'm thinking i'm thinking that i'm thinking that to get sideways and then baltimore finally answers andrews for 19 then it's henry for eight again henry for seven second down is henry for seven third down lamar takes it i think well nine and then mitchell for the 18 yard touchdown and zay flowers blocking his ass off did you see him I'm one buddy smack open and then jump on his back. I'm like, oh, oh, oh, get off. He's doing, he's doing, he's doing. Get off him, you know who taught him that.

One of them dirty offensive linemen, and then like to jump on people's backs at the 1,000%. He taught him. I'm like, get off him, Zay, get off of him. That was good work right there. Their boys were some type of way. So they went, that was, I was going to tell you. It's nice, where is it, 19, 14, now.

We got a fight. That's one. We got a fight on our hands. Cincinnati get back out there, man. Man, bro, I think it was Burrow to Brown. What was a nine? And then was it Piron? Piran.

Piron. He went for 12. Third down, Burrow, he'd chase for like 15. I think it was the next third down. With the, Yosebos. That's his name. Yosevaz? Yo Chabazzabas.

Yes. Twanky nine Touchdown Oh, Roman Smith That was a good ball too I mean ball placed Right on the top of the back of his head Bro, he back

Like he back in the first game It ain't even like like he picked up Where he left off Let burrow, you know Twink it's six Twink it's six Twink it's 14 Brough

BMO get out there And they go and get a whole depending on the first play first and they had eight they was they was ahead of the sticks what y'all doing and then what happened they get that thing to king henry that man that man they got to keep their leverage they had three people they had three people and buddy want to come like you got inside inside inside man he ran right around your ass and got 45 yards for a whole a whole half football football field on y'all. God.

You know what I'm saying? And they had, it was first and 20 for a checkdown. Yes. Yes. Br, second down, Lamar ends up hitting Hopkins. I think that was the first catch he had, like for 15. Yes, first catch of the game.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then second down, they pressured him. He ended up having that, I think, that way. And then on that third and nine at the Cincinnati 15th. Ah, right.

Tip has interception, and they return it to mid. Tips and overthrows, man. They don't hit the ground. Tips, overthrows. Hey, when you hit the ground. Oh, when they hit the ground, you're the happiest person in the world. Defense, that thing's tip. And we always haven't hit the ground for some reason.

I don't know why. I know. We got to be pursuing. When the ball's moving, you think of somebody just caught it. Start running. Start running over there. Something good can happen. Something really good could happen.

The ball might pop to you. Yeah. So they ended up, I think, converting, like, maybe one first down. They get to, like, a third and two, and they just get stuffed. Yeah, a dude come out there. He hit a, yeah, he hit a 52-yard field goal. It's now, was 29 to 14. Baltimore gets back out there.

I think they converted on the third down because of a hold. Yeah, holding on the DB. yeah and then the next play he he missed walker deep again that was like was that that that was the deep beat too i mean he put a hand in the basket that's i mean it was a great throw he didn't like right there same time perfect time so i couldn't see no i'm talking about the one he missed that next play he missed walker he could have he could have had him deep but he uh he couldn't oh okay okay yeah i know i knew so much Yeah. Yeah. And then the next third down after that, they had a false start, and they went for it on the fourth down.

And they almost got picked on that one. They turned it over on downs on that one. Yeah, but he could, he looked like he couldn't get off the ground. He just smacked the ball, got a little PBU. Turnover on downs. If he did, dude, if he had got the full, yeah, he had got the full. That was, it really didn't matter about that for sure. Yeah, Cincinnati got out there. think brown the first play was like 18 and then the next one i think was almost 10 i think Baltimore on the third one they get a a penalty to encroachment and oh buddy he said i want to make

it interesting the next third down he just cough the pill up i thought it was like a mishandled handoff he got it no he took it he handed it to him and he handed it back to him you know exactly he gave it to me i give it to me i'll give it to you that's exactly what baltimore they get back out there after the fourth down uh conversion they returned the favor on the first down flowers fumbles the rock gives it right back to cincinnati don't question cincinnati put a little extra on it by making the field go 3414 damn is over with yeah it don't Yeah, it don't, it don't matter.

Ravens, you know, you just, they got too many turnovers. What was it? Five turnovers, bro. It is hard to come back from that. Like, even with your defense putting out fires, you know, I'm talking about, not fire. These boys was putting out, right, these boys were putting out forest fires. I'm talking about 10 alarm fires all over the news. You had one fumble that they got at the two-yard line going in and gave up no points on that.

It was turnover on downs, bro. The other fumble was at the 19 going in. They gave up a field goal. The other one was at the 36 going in. They gave up a field goal. The interception, they gave up only, I think, 20 yards on that one. And that was a field goal. And the biggest one was the fumble they had down there.

They drove like almost 90 yards. And still, like, only gave up a field goal, man. Like, on top of just that right there, like, you gave up points that should have went on the board. The fumble at the goal line, you can't come. That was a whole flip. That ended up being like a 10-point flip because they didn't get the seven. And then they ended up driving down 90 yards to get three.

Like, the Bengals just, dude, they did what was necessary, dude. They just dominated the time. possession the defense the defense they came in and did things they actually got off on third down like they got off on third downs dude like they did what a defense is supposed to do do do put out fires forest fires raging fires dude that's what a defense does bro like that's your job i'm talking about they putting out fires in the sahara desert with dirt and dust they putting out five i'm third bro like that's what we need to do man as these stillers if we are going to go and beat buffalo bro we have to perform on defense period do offense offense don't get me wrong

the offense we we got to run the ball period buffalo is 30th in rushing brough and 31st in rush per attempt but like i said they're still what is it like 12 13 defense in the nth so so how is that when they're 30 something they're number one in past defense they are also number eight in sacks per pass attempt so we have to run the rock effectively run the rock we need to run the ball effectively. And I don't care if they know it's coming. If they can't stop it, it don't matter. Okay.

If we can run the ball effectively, we now control time of possession, which means our defense isn't on the field as much. And our defense does not need to be on the field as much because we are going against the game. number three offense in the NFL period number one in rushing and number nine in passing that's the first thing we got to stop is the run thousand percent we have to stop the run like if we cannot do that we're going to have to and i know we can do it because we've done it

we did it against the number one rusher in the NFL with the coach I know we can do it the defensive players need to be in position to make the plays meaning the play calling is important

the scheme is important I don't care how good you are if we are schematically deficient, it's extremely hard to overcome. And when we aren't and we are in position, the players need to do the necessary things

to achieve success, like in zone, reroute the receivers. If we're in man, keep your eyes on your man. And as a defense, going against Buffalo, we're going to have to mix up zone and man covers you. If we play man all night, Josh Allen is going to run the ball on us, okay? He is going to run the rock,

and that's if we play man extremely well, he's going to run the rock because our backs are going to be turned. Therefore, there needs to be something built in that spies him in man coverages. And when we're in zone defenses, guys, we have to jam these receivers, throw off their timings. It gives our rushers,

more time to get to Allen, okay? Like, Debo, I also think you speak in the gossip. You need to start, bro, I think we need to start, like, being able to disguise our defenses. Everybody is reading our mail. The very few times that we do, we disguise it actually confuses quarterback because we don't do it as often, and we don't do it well when we do it. and I'm thinking like that's something that it totally needs to be in there

because I think the big issue is that everyone's not on the same page. So if I'm sitting here as an outside linebacker and I'm actually rushing, but I'm stepping out here like I'm on two and my safety is already road down behind me, sitting behind me. The quarterback already knows. We got to be working together. We got to be on a rope together. So no one person can be off.

Like we used to have a thing where it was like, it's show. Yeah. What that mean? This time we're showing this right here. No, we get to a certain point, snap count, whatever it is. Now, okay, once the play looks like it's going to start. We know he can't adjust once he snaps it. Now we roll up by it.

Like, we need to be able to do that. We're not doing that. I don't know why we're not doing that as much as we should. But when you're on that rope, you had an understanding. I don't know if it's because the players don't know. what they're doing or is it because it's not being told that you know what this is something we need to do but if i'm sitting there and i have a quarterback like josh allen and i'm just sitting there in the coverage i'm a being he's going to put me apart okay you like if we're going to win this game

that needs to be done a thousand percent everything you said debo is correct as far as as defense man-to-man eyes uh zone bumping your dudes rerouting we're saying the simple things like You said the routine stuff, do it routinely, and we're legitimately saying it because you've done it before. It's not like we're asking you to go out there and do something that we've never seen you do. You know what I'm saying? We're actually to go do simple things. Don't go act out of character. If you have a man, guard your man.

If you have a reroute assignment, reroute your assignment. So that part is when I'm with you 1,000 percent, it's not a skill thing. It's a goddamn do your job thing. And if you're not doing your job, then that's, you obviously, I think you've been coached to do it because that's the defense. But also, like I said, you still have to put your players in the schematically correct things offensively and defensively so that they can do their job and not have them out there in something that is not going to work unless he goes and walks on water. I do. But this is what I'm saying. The plays that we see when shit is open, it's not walk on water.

It's like, dude, reroute. You know what I'm saying? Dude, get your eyes where they're supposed. supposed to be. You know what I'm saying? Stop getting, ran out your fucking hole right here in these certain situations. So I think me, the, every man,

whoop a man, all of that stuff is legitimate and our defense has the players to do it, but they have to, every play. Like, no, like, it's on you to do your assignment, do your alignment. And if you, and then we can go look at the tape. If this is some bullshit that they're asking you to do and that's just schematically wrong,

then we can go have that conversation. Like, no, that's wrong. That's, that's a bad play. But on the stuff that we can see and we're looking at like this, oh, no, you're not rerouting. Oh, no, you're not looking at your man. Oh, no, you're not in your right gap right there. You know what I'm saying? Those are the joints where we're like this. No, that's just you being trash.

That's just you need to be a better player. When the coaches are like this, what kind of scheme is this? How is he running wide up? Why is T.J. Warting the slot receiver. That shit when we like this, that's bad play calling right there. You know what I'm saying? T. TJ shouldn't have to guard him in that situation. So I'm with you when we see those plays, that's coaching.

When we see plays with motherfuckers not jamming, that's on them. You know what I'm saying? So us being able to analyze and see what's going on, being able to do it. But again, we are seeing people not jamming a lot. What are they being told? Is it a, is it a, is it a, drop to your zone, watch the quarterback and read him and then adjust as you go? No, no, no, no. Nobody's not telling you, just you know what it is.

When you have to jam two, it's a thing where you got to be doing two things. Read, run, not run, get your eyes on two. And now you have to reroute them. Like, sometimes it might just be messing up. It's having a little brain far. That's why you stand at four yards. It's usually your, you're four by one. Yes.

Why? Because I'm a looking to see. I got to read, I'm coming down to it. If it's not, I'm going to bump. I'm just going to step over, bam him and get to where I need to get going. Because I can't have him just taking off the field. So I think some of the stuff is like, we know football. I don't, I've never seen any cover three where you don't have to reroute number two.

Like, that's just not. that's because how how james pierre going to be in cover but also it's things of it's things like this so like you said cover three i i'm saying i'm dropping curl flat i'm dropping curl flat right i ain't got no work if i ain't got no work i'm gonna keep i'm gonna keep i'm gonna keep going so i can get under that deep that's seven how many people are doing that how many people are having that football knowledge that's not something that like you're just going to know that has to be talked to you told to you like it's the coaching being told to you are It's all that being told.

Like, I got nothing in my zone. Why am I sitting here? Garden grass. Garden grass. When I could just drop back further and made that throw more difficult, which he had put more air time into it. Now am I safe. Like the stuff, like, like the play that we've seen Horn do.

When Horn is like, yeah, oh, I don't have anybody. There's nobody in my deep zone. I need to go find some work. Like, that's next level stuff that I feel you. We need to be able to definitely do that. Oh, you, after the punching wider, nobody's in my zone. I can sink a little deeper and get up under this. So it's like, it's definitely next level stuff.

It's just the simple stuff that we're not doing. So I'm with you. Like, we got to see, I would like to ask them, hey, what are you? Right. That's the thing. Dude, I'm sitting here and I'm questioning, is this coaching or is this the player? Because I'm seeing it too often, like at some point, if I'm the coach and you're not doing it, I got to get you up out of here, bro.

You're making me look bad because now you got people like me in question. Questioning if I'm really teaching it right. And I want to know I'm teaching you right, you need to be doing it. But if you're not, we need to get somebody in there that can because you got me looking crazy. Either you can or you won't. The result is the same. It's not being done. I need to get somebody else in there that's going to do it.

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Yep. Green Bay went out there and put it on the lines 31, twink it for a name. I wouldn't expect that either. I wasn't expecting that even. I'm thinking a lot. They had Jacobs back, though, man. They had Jacobs back. Jacobs.

He made some situational stuff happening. He made some runs, bro. They get the ball on that first down. He basically kept him ahead of the chains for most of the time. Like, the first down, he gets a run. I think it was like four, four. It was only a hot four yards, but that was after missing the game. I think second down, he hit Watson, like on time, bro.

As soon as he, man, he threw that ball before he turned to run. around straight into his chest, bro. He was doing it. He was throwing right on time. Then receive, too, it was getting open. Yeah, the next two first down, I mean, the next two downs, they picked up about nine again, staying ahead of the change, third down. He came that man, Jacobs again.

Nice run. O'Line did a good job blocking on that one, dude. I don't even think he got touched until he was about three yards, three, four yards deep. And that was just a swipe of a hand. And then, again, it was a nice. another I think nine on a on first down maybe it was yeah it was another nine on the next two first down together combined together they got another nine and then he had a nice pass the dobs i think that gave him like a a third and one they converted for like four then love scrambled

on that sack he avoided that sack but the throw was short that's what happened that that throw was short he missed dude and then he ended up missing watson the next play they basically stalled they self out it started all high Detroit didn't stop stop this yes they yeah they settled for they settled for a field goal it's three nothing the very first play golf trips dude I'm thinking he about to just fumble the whole thing out he got lucky was able to get it to him you see how his knee actually bumped the ball into his hands, dude. Lucky.

Dude, yeah, very lucky. The next play, Parsons pressures him, which would be something that would happen all night pressure and sacking him. And then the third play, he almost sacked him, but he ended up getting the ball out. Yo, that right there, like the flick of the wrist, that's the only thing saved in that one.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know that'd be pissing. off the D-line, brus. Oh, man. That's the worst thing, dude. That's the worst thing, dude. Green Bay, get back out there, and Detroit actually stands up.

They hold them to a three-and-out. I was like, okay. I'm like, okay. Detroit come back out there. Gibbs went on ahead, and I think he had a nice little seven-yard run, but they lost St. Brown on that same play. And that, yeah, that hurt me, boy. Oh, my man.

It was his foot, right? Like I got rolled up on. His ankle, yeah, he rolled up. The receiver's trying to block. They're coming up on you fast. That happens so much, man. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's part of the dirty part of being the receiver.

You know, when you're out there blocking. You get rolled up on, man. God, I know sometimes the D.Bs, we right there and not back, they put them into the pile. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, back in the day on your life. It's him on me or him. Hey, I'm going to bend you over this. I think it better you to me.

Yeah. I think Gibbs got another seven on second down. And then the first down, they ended up getting a legal formation. They stopped Montgomery for no game. And then golf, he just threw it into the ground. And he come Parsons again. Third down, he's sacks him. They got to punt the ball.

Green Bay gets his. back. I think the first down, it pressured love into like a incompletion. But, dude, here come Jacobs again, dude. A little checkdown. I think it goes for like eight. Third and two, man, peels off, what, 29, 30 or something like that. They end up converting another first down, you know, with the help of offsides from Detroit, that was an incompletion on that third down that gets them to i believe was fourth and two now we had this fourth and two then he hits wicks for a 22 yard touchdown they call that a touchdown they reviewed and called that a touchdown i think the ball moved when he went past him he

hit it and it went to his other hand they said he had control of that and it just moved to his other hand i personally think that was not a touchdown what about you I'm with you, Debo. I'm with you. I mean, on offense, if that was a defensive player trying to catch that, I think they would have called that an incomplete pass. Just be like, oh, yeah, the ball was moving, obviously. Trying to get touchdowns.

But I think, for sure, that's not secured. All of these plays, these plays, when they've been slowing it down, if it's any type of moving, like switching the hands and stuff like that, I think. That wasn't a switch, dude. That was a bump. Like, when he came across, it was a bump, dude.

and it just kind of just looked like it went to the other hand yeah like that's not controlled you say no he's not controlling that doing the switch so that's incomplete that's what that's what they should have said that's what i think i'm i'm with you they end up going up what is it 10 nothing now yeah and Detroit actually comes back out and i think golf he actually starts coming alive he hits Williams for like was it 22 yeah something like that and then I think Gibbs goes almost 20 on the second down I believe it was like a third and long golf hit a Kennedy for like 23 and then it's another illegal formation like how you how you keep how you keep doing Detroit they well coached I'm not I think they had some new players in there and all that stuff but I'm

like yo same thing though i don't care about that like you got to know what you're supposed to right yeah listen to what you went listening to meeting like i don't know well they get down there i think they put montgomery in then he ends up getting like eight on the first i think he got maybe three on the second down and then the wildcat they the wildcat is like third and third and go i need to get in there yeah yeah he goes he goes he goes he goes for the three-yard touchdown. It's back into a game. It's seven to ten.

In Green Bay, they come back out there. And again, bro, like, hey, second down, they got lucky. They recovered that. Oh, my God. Living right. Right. Yeah, hey, it had to be. Yeah, third down, love his, love was listening to do.

Christian with the toe taps on the sidelines. Yeah. Yeah, he hit Wicks, I think, for 18. And then on the second, I think it was Musgrave for 20-something. And then it was, yeah, they got caught on the third down with 12 men on the field. On that third and seven. But they get to the fourth one and one again, bro. They fall started.

Ooh, I didn't see that. I didn't peeped that one. They false started. Brother, listen, they false started for sure. Dude was running down there to call the timeout. Oh, yes. But he was only running down there to call the time out because he was going to call it at zero.

You fall started at two. And then you can actually watch the camera and see him running down there. And when he's seeing him move. And then you've seen him do the timeout call. Oh, now's going to talk about he could have been hollering it. No, you're not. because the first thing you're doing as you're running down

is if you're calling and hollering, you're already doing this to try and get his attention. He calls the time out at two seconds because you're waiting at zero to be like, I was calling time out. No, he saw him move. Yes, Debo, when he saw him move, he called the time.

When this happened and I saw him, I said, oh my God, I watched it. I said, he lied. Yes. I was like, he lied. And you have the timing. You see it in real time. You see it.

But he jumped back. So unless the rest is going to say, I heard him hollering time out. Yeah, that was Janky. That was Janky. That was Janky. They end up scoring on that, dude. They go up 17 to 7. My boys with the switch route. They kept running them.

That's the one thing, too, about the play calling, Debo that I would say. When they know it's man to man, them dudes running up there and being able to do that stack to where the D.Bs don't really know, like, inside, outside, they get your leverage all messed up. So they were doing a great job of running those choice routes. So he gets up, the savior gets up behind him, runs a little option, run the out route, the outside receiver runs the end. So they would do a good job of rubbing those dudes together. That play should have never happened.

They wouldn't even win for that on four to six, bro. They wouldn't even went for that. Like, you caught, man. You all the way caught. Like, Detroit actually gets the ball. They come back out. They're able to, you know, make some movement. I think it was second and long.

Green Bay got that neutral zone, which, you know, helped them convert the third down. And then on that first down, golf hits Williams again for like 25. It was third and three. It took that short pass he hitting with. Listen, that's another thing right here. Again, wrap your hand.

Wrap up, bro. You coming in here to bump and slide? What is you doing? He just came. Like, I'm just trying to throw the shoulder to Debo. they think it's going to take him down. Dude, he's three yards in the backfield. Go put your face on that man and wrap him up.

And William, it's small. All he had to do was go where he went and just wrap your hands on his legs. Let me wrap him up, thousand percent. He spun up out of that joint, took it to the apartments. What do you do? Dude, instead of that, yeah, he bounced up off that thing. He goes, what is it, 25. To the crib.

It's 17 to 14 now. Like, if you had made that, played like i don't know what it'll happen it really don't matter green bay ends up kneeling out they're going to halftime they're up 17 14 that'd be the last points that you know them boys will score but Detroit get back out there i think they ended up converting one first down they get to the fourth down and three and they turn it over on downs hey then at some point bro you're going to have to realize when you start getting towards that November, December football, every fourth down, ain't third down, and we just go go for it.

They don't go. They don't make it. That's three points that could have been on there. Now, we could have been sitting 1717 right now. That's the easy field goal for the kicker, bro. Easy. Yeah, easy. Instead of that, Green Bay gets the rockback, incompletion on first down, and then he hits

Watson for 51 for the tutty. If you kick the field goal, bro, even if they go 51, it's not a touchdown. Like, it's a whole different swing. You're talking about, like, from a, you know, like, it's 2114. That's a huge point swing. You get from going from nothing to getting them, they get seven points. It's like 10 point point, point swing, dude.

Now you're down 21 to 14. like, bro, they end up answering, though. I think they scored like 10 more points after the 14. I think golf, yeah, that's when golf went on head and used this. Yes, he did. For 22? Yeah, like 20-something, man. He went on head did the thing, like 24.

Then the second down, Montgomery, he went for 13. First down, he went for another 14. Grand man, smack over. Oh, my gosh. Listen. Listen, Montgomery trained out there in Arizona where I trained at, bro. Hey, the boy loved it. He both that.

He both that. Oh, I can tell, God. I love it. Listen, the boy did lift almost 700 pounds on track bar. Like, he bought that work. That's what he's living for to be able to put that foot in the ground and go smack over somebody. Yeah. I think golf finished it with like a 17-yard or two.

What was that? Is it Tesla? Tesla, that's it, to the Tesla. 21, twinket folk. We're back into a fight. They're trying to get back into it, brother. Second down, what was in Melton, the 14? And the first down, it was Wicks for 30.

Because of what? No rerout. He's running down here scene. Thank you. He's running, but naked down the scene. Debo, we both. This is what I'm saying. That's why I love watching football because some of the stuff is not that hard.

Some of the things are just like this. They're like, oh, it's a horrible. He's running. It's rouse on air. It's rouse on air. What do you expect? Yes. So, yeah, good pass, but not good defense.

And then Jacobs gets six on the next play. I think the second down, they converted for the first. And then the next second down, they fought. recovery but yeah yeah yeah but they get it and then third down it's an incompletion they got it good but you get a face mask that helps them get a first down like detroit can be you can't be can't be hitting yourself in the face and you're having a hard time stopping them and then second down love his witsy for another one of them motions man the man switch routes quick you know what I'm saying that's what you go get when you mad up like

that you go get that all day they got they got they got they got they got learn yeah man you got to learn play little zone there or be able to run the in and out and make sure he gets the outside man but they they ran those routes very very quick and the thing about Detroit they weren't backing up they weren't like they were in the end zone feet planning as soon as he catches it if it's one yard he needs like they were tacking soon as he got but I'm like dude on the red on the goal line they only need one yard so that don't matter like you got to make a play forward you got you got you got to put you got you got you got to put you got to put you got to right now beat him up beat him up in them first five yards you got to beat him up you only got a yard they go down was it 31 21 21

Detroit they get out there I think golf hits Williams again for like 15 the next play they try out pitch-past. They tried the flea-lick-rish thing, whatever that was. Bray, golf, I don't, I ain't, dude, he dropped, how you, how you dropped the football? Almost lost it. Almost lost it, lost it, like, got lucky, he covered it. Yeah, we got to do better there. Yeah, and then second down, Gives, and I'm going on here and say, y'all, he went for 14, the third down.

He went for another 12. I think they converted one more first down after that. And then they get to fourth and three. My good bad. They go for it again. Golf shakes loose, gets out. He throws it to Williams. It's a little behind him.

You got to catch that. We froze. He still could have got it. No question. He still could have got it. He drops it. It's turnover on downs. Again, another situation where I'm like,

yo, just take the points. I thought that's, that's that you got six more now from where you're at. now like it's a totally different game at 2731 like take the points i don't you can't keep doing it and he had that happen dude like in the previous you know seasons where they were in the playoffs and he was just going forward on fourth like yo take the points bro i understand you do it at certain time but at some point you got to be like yeah like it's it's a lot on the line I can't come back from this next week. This is going to be it.

And if you keep losing them like that, you ain't go get to the playoffs. Like you can't, at some point, I think he has to realize, okay, early in the season when I could come back from this, but now I'm leaving points out there that I can have. In big games. Yes, in big games, dude.

Like, it's not like you're, you know, you're up. And you're like, okay, I'm up by, Like, even if I'm up, I'm not doing that, bro. You got to get some points. Points are hard to come from in this league, man. And then you already leaving something out there. So, especially when my defense ain't stopping them. Like, they're not stopping him.

All night, you've seen that they weren't doing that. So turn them on downs for them. Packers get the ball back. Packers get the ball back. Detroit ends up, I think, forcing, a three and out with the help of a miss p i like dude had that arm i don't even know how to miss that like you calling catches and then you miss that like listen and they got all these cameras around everywhere what happened to where i could review uh uh a not call of a p i did

they take that away or something because i ain't seen nobody do it that's like you can see it right there it's automatic i don't know maybe they took that away i i i don't know i maybe they took that away knows i'm not i don't i don't know i'm not i'm not too exactly how they yeah how they change that around Detroit gets out there and golf hits uh what was a dude's number uh dude's name 18 what was the name i think he he went like for 18 he hit him for 18 and then he gets sacked by parsons again okay and third down he sat again again again third down he sat Then, they got an illegal touch. Lucky duck.

So they ended up getting the first down. And then second down. And then Williams takes it 44. Forty-four. They convert. I think it was maybe one more first down after that. And then they get to another third and short. And hit come parses again.

Parsons was bawling, bro. Parsons is bawling. Out of control. There's a such thing as both teams winning in the trade. And now you want to take the field goal. Now you want to take the field goal. You want to take the field goal now after you have seen your defense can't stop them. Okay.

They haven't stopped them, but you want to take the field go now and hope that with three minutes left, your defense is. going to stop them and you scored a field goal is 31 to 24 green bay gets the ball and runs out the last three minutes of the game because they converted on fourth down to wicks for 18 i'm i'm at a loss on that one like detroit got some issues don't get me wrong Green Bay, they just, dude, they just made the plays when they counted, dude. They stayed ahead of the chains for most of the game. They rushed the ball well enough.

I think Jacobs was 17 for 83. Milton only was like 2 for 15. And Love was 18 for 235, 234, but it was four touchdowns. And big plays, big yardage, big chunks. Wix was six for 94 with two touchdowns. Watson was on four for 80, but he had a huge 51 yard touchdown, bro. Like Detroit, like, they got to, got to, got to, got to realize. starting late November

like that that that that's playoff football dude like every every fourth down you don't go for it you got to do it situationly and kick some field goals man I mean golf didn't play bad he started off oh for what three but he ended up 20 or 26 for 256 like 132

pass rating that's that's all and like when you look at it they didn't even do bad as a total for rushing like they had 30 rushes for about 119 yards green bay only had 30 rushes for 125 yards but the situational things they were able to get more big plays and their defense got off the field where detroit didn't yeah and they didn't they converted on the fourth downs although both those fourth downs i think shouldn't have been called no should they it definitely shouldn't have been made the second one for sure okay if he on the first one

maybe he had it maybe he didn't you can say okay well he had control no he knocked it to his other hand he didn't swap that overdue he knocked it to his left hand although it may have looked like to you all he was swapping no no but the second one the false start that was a false start yes is you can see it on the timing like at some point y'all doing all this play this virtual it is all this other stuff like let's let's use this to to correct it you go you want to do all the slow mo when the defensive player hit somebody y'all want to slow it down 50 billion shots per second he's like oh his helmet his helmet hit him in the chin strap a little bit right yeah his helmet did touch his chin strap you see like it covers the white there

you know i'm saying that man lose control to the other right you know they like points tell me they like points, Debo. Yeah. It's wild. They got to fix some stuff over there, bro. But the Cowboys, they ended up beating the Chiefs, 31 to 28. I ain't going to really go through this.

This is what it comes down. I feel about that one. This is what it comes down to me. For me, is that the Chief Defense sells. Even though they are a good defense, bruh, they sell. Situational, they sell a big play-wise. Like, they're an eighth-rank defense, but they're 23rd per play.

Like, every play that you get against them, they're 23rd per play. So their 18th player rush, they're 25th per pass, which means if you have them out there enough time, you're going to be able to win on them situation. their third down percentage, I think they're tied for 28th, which me, to me, that's 29. So the offense is not putting up hell of points anymore. They're not able to get large sums of controlling the time of possession, which means their defense is now out there.

And you add in, you know, penalties and all that. And again, got to the end of the game. The defense couldn't stop them situationally. They can't make the plays when it counts. And it's not that old high-flying, go-get-40 points. Can't see the office anymore. I'm with you, Debo. I mean, I love the Chiefs.

I think their defense has to play probably a little bit better. And at the same time, their offense is still not that High-Fline Chief's offense to where you know every time they're going to be scoring up in the 30s. I think this one, too, was a little bit more for me, Debo, Dallas. like oh yeah don't get me wrong dad's played well deck prescott not just trying to like but like when I'm looking at quarterbacks now

I would wish you know what I'm saying just looking for as the Steelers fan as the Browns fan having a quarterback that's really just going back there throwing for 300 you know what I'm saying he had to pick early because he got hit when he threw it but just being able to throw for 300 yards like it's nothing you know what I'm saying standing up in the pocket

realizing you do have George Pickens you do have CD Lamb you know what I'm saying and then X is and O's versus Jimmy's and the Joe's. My Jimmies and Joe's are better than your Jimmy's and Joe's. If you're going to play man to man, I'm going to throw it to George Pickens on Watson.

Watson wanted no part of him. I love Watson, but then, Nick, you got two men inside leverage, and he gets across your face for the slant and not only across your face, then you flagging him, holding them, and all that. So I'm like, just for me, their defense is solid, but it was more Dallas, all kinds of side of the ball.

And then on defense side of the ball, just being able to try to stop the run, just being able to, like, they still score 28 points, but, like, they have some players, Hollywood Brown, Rice, you know, Patrick Mahomes still creating and still doing what he does. I was really excited to watch Dallas, though, because I'm like, they actually look like a good team. You know what I'm saying? The defense wasn't just out there giving up everything.

They was moving. They're looking better. The defense is able to hold, yeah. You know, you got on the offensive side, you got that man that's going to be, you got George Pickens and CD at the end of the day. they're looking sweet running game was still you're still using it but then you got that just back there looking like he's running stuff so i was i like i like the way dallas looked i like the way that he goes to those receivers shout out the cd for stepping up not dropping dropping dropping passes

if they have those one-on-one matchups with them versus these receivers it's going to be it's going to be a tough day so i like i like what the cowboy's work for a show for show joe you know what time is sir it's time to play play or fade presented by power presented by prize pick okay look here it's prize picks okay here it's prize picks i got my braces okay all right joe here's how it works. I made a lineup of picks for tonight's Black Friday game. Okay. You either play my lineup or you faded and you tell me why, okay?

So this is what I'm going with. Caleb, he goes through a pick and Jaylen go throw a pick. This is why I say Caleb go throw a pick is because he is inconsistent and Philly is not go not catch something like the other team that played them last year did i'm not going to say their name okay okay all right in jalen they're going to have him throwing the ball and i believe philly will win but they're going to have to run the ball so that's why i have him for less on the 211 passing and i have say quine for more on the 77 road because I believe they're going to win

and he's going to have to pass. But at some point who is number one in interception ratio? Is it Caleb? No. I'm talking about per class attempt. Chicago. Yes.

Yes, yes, yes. Okay. So that's why I have both of them more. Okay. And I have Hertz on. the total, I have him

less, and I have Sequine more. What do you think? I think from last week, when I'm out here playing, I think Caleb probably going to throw a pick. I think Jalen hurts.

Why do you think Caleb go through a pick? Because he's going to have to. I think he's going to throw the ball a lot, because he's going to just try to get some points, trying to figure out a way to win. I think he's going to throw a pick. I think my man, what's my The same name. Mitchell, the corner for the Eagles.

Yes, young boy Mitchell, cold-blooded. I'm actually going to tell you who's going to get the pick. Okay. Okay. Hertz. Okay. He might be trying to force feed to J.lyn Brown, because, I mean, A.J. Brown, because, you know, he's been trying to get the rock a lot, so he might force-feed him, might get tipped in the air, probably might throw a pick.

Okay? Two picks there. I'm with you. We all together. Jalen Hurts under 21-11? Yeah. Right around, right around 200. is what I was looking at.

You know what I'm saying? Because I like Devante Smith. He's going to still, he's going to probably get off. He's going to get A.J. Brown a couple of passes. Nothing crazy. He don't really throw for over 211 anyway. So right around 190, good. Sequan, he has not been performing the way he knows he can perform.

He's going to want to go get a hundo. He wants a hundo for show. So I'm playing this. I'm playing. Okay. Okay. My dude Joe, he's playing all this. Now look here, man, make sure you download the ads.

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That's what we're going to do. That's what Joe said. I am saying. I don't know if that's going to happen. All right. Look, I got, we got a, we got a super chat. We got a super chat. $5.00 super chat donated by Ninja Grows, and they want to know this.

You can only pick one. Troy Potamalu, Ray Lewis, T.J. Watt, or Antonio Brown. Who they talking to me or you, Debo? Troy Palomalamalu. Y'all asking stupid questions. Not a question. Hey. Stop playing.

That's baby Jesus. Hey, bro. That man, that man, that man, Troy. You're asking stupid questions, man. Troy. Yeah, all day. All day. But Debo is real, my brother.

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