Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - DK Metcalf SUSPENDED, SNF Reaction: 49ers DEMOLISH Colts, Ravens IN TROUBLE

Episode Date: December 23, 2025

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Pittsburgh Steelers WR DK Metcalf being suspended for two games after an altercation with a Detroit Lions fan, Monday Night Football where Brock Purdy and the San Francisco 49ers destroyed Phillip Rivers and the Indianapolis Colts, and much more from Week 16 of the 2025 NFL season! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE  Timeline:00:00 - 49ers beat Colts19:35 - DK Metcalf Suspended34:20 - John Harbaugh on the hot seat?36:20 - Truth about playing NFL Christmas Games39:25 - Jadeveon Clowney's Motivation to keep playing46:44 - Deebo & Joe Defensive Player of the Week (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm doing great, brother Debo. Great, great, great. Another day, another dollar. Another day to watch a good day of football last night. Another day to be on the show, holl at my boy. Yes, definitely, definitely. I ain't going to lie, man. That was a good, terrible game.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. That was a good, terrible game. No, for sure. Let's go ahead, hop into it, man. The 49ers jumped on the coach neck. I mean, they really jumped on them late. but it was a lot of scoring back and forth.

48 to, what, 27? Yes. A lot of... He's got the ball, old man Rivers. Man, he go deep on that first one. That thing was, like, short on everything. Yeah, he put his whole heart and soul into it, too. Yeah, that didn't, I ain't go lie.

It didn't look good. Next play, they ended up false starting. I think Taylor got him a nice run, about seven, finding the whole, being a little patient, making his way through there. And then he hit him. again on the short crossing route right there. I think they were manned up. He ended up

taking the 19. Next play, he fires one to downs. I think it was like 18. That was a good pass, though. Yeah, no, for sure. For sure. He gets some out there that look all right, and then he gets something that look like he ain't got it.

It's the longevity. It's how long he's going to be able to do it. A lot of his passes, it looked like he was putting his heart and soul into it. He threw more passes further than 10 yards than I expected. a thousand percent i told you old man roo's go come through for you boy i think db made a nice play on that second down though i think they got the third and eight and picked up what was it 14 but they had an illegal formation that pushed them back to third and 13 and then he hits downs again

that boy twist and spin his way to it first down for 13 and then second down he hits pierced for 20-yard touchdown, baby. That was a, he also, that was a, he caught somebody offside, so it was, you know what I'm saying, they had a free play. Get it going. The one thing he does have, though, Philip Rivers, was anticipation.

He throws the ball, you know what I'm saying? He didn't have that much power, but he's leading the receivers. He's able to put it in the right spots. So not as much power, not as much force, but good ball. Yes, no question. 7-0. San Francisco, get out there,

and I think second down, Purdy was on all night, man. Oh. Yeah, nice catch for 26. I think the first down, they ended up getting the, what was it, McCathory? Bro, they walked the ball down the field easily. They scored damn near every, like, at the beginning, like, they walked the ball, their possession.

The offense was flowing, moving, the motions. Christian McCaffrey, Kittal, everybody. They had people on balance. Colts couldn't stop them at all. You know what I'm saying? Oh, it wasn't. Yeah, it got ridiculous, but they kept a minute, man. That was a little dump past the McArthur.

He went for six. Then he ran the next one for nine. And I think second down is when Purdy hit Robinson for the 22-yard touchdown. Those boys went down there and like six plays, three minutes, a little over three minutes and scored real fast. Yes. So I'm looking, if you're the Colts and your defense didn't step up for you, you got old man Rivers, they drove it down, they scored, and then they just made it look too easy, too fast, like defense didn't even, nobody had a chance to breathe. Then you kick the ball off. Y'all get the ball, kickoff return.

Come on, Devo. You humble to rock. You let the man punch it out. Sanfran recovers that thing. I think, what is it on, like the 25, something like that. Yes, bro. Dude. First down, Purdy hits.

kiddo for like 12 and then back to back runs like they were supposed to be able to be like stop the run like they didn't they didn't do a good job stopping the run at all they get they were off balance the higher game you didn't know what they do you didn't know what purdy was going to do you didn't know what the offense and they're motioning people all over the place you know what I'm saying like that offense they just look so in control so like the Colts defense had to if you weren't going to stop the two run that that McCaffrey did, man. They put up my first and goal at the 3rd.

I think second down. McCaffrey finished it off with a two-yard reception from Purdy, 14-7. I ain't a lie, man. Like, the game is still close, bro. No, it is. It is. But, look, it's only been three drives, and they've made it look so easy that I'm like, unless you can change my view of making Brock Purdy and them look like they have to hesitate

or, like, stop. But at the same point in time, their defense wasn't looking great. Hell, Indie came back out there. No, no, for show. You're right. They fight. They fight. Rivers the downs. Second one, I think it was Taylor. He got a little five to finish off for the first down. Second down to 10. He hit Ogletree for 11. He was fighting for that.

Fighting for that 11. That next second down is Pierce again for 17. Following the next second down, Rivers hits downs for 12. And then they get a holding call, I think it was, and end up third and 16. And Rivers hits that boy Pierce again for the 16-yard touchdown. His second is tied 14-14. Dude, it's a fight. It's horrible defense going on. No, it's horrible defense.

Right now, it's great offense, too, though. They're hitting the first on the ball where he needs to. Taylor's getting a little bit of runs. You know what I'm saying? Downs is getting busy. So offenses are making place. But in my eyes, I'm not looking at it. I'm like, man, this is just amazing.

I'm impressed that Philip Rivers in the offense of being able to see much on the 49ers. I'm like, it doesn't, it looks a little harder, you know what I'm saying? Like, because 49ers, I'm like, I think their defense is going to get a hold of something. Yeah, yeah. They come back out, San Fran.

I think the first play, McCaffrey hit, like for 12 again. And then it was, the second play was reversed to an incompletion. And then they ended up being third and 10. And Purdy scrambles for nine. of it. And then I seen a quarterback tush push for a first down. That was, yeah, that was, I didn't think they would do that with him. Bertie's, man, he's not even going down the middle. He's trying to find a hole. He's going down to four or six holes outside.

McCaffrey immediately after the first down is 18. Like, they're supposed to have a good, like, run defense. I think they were like, supposed to be like top five or something like that. Dude, they did not show it. No. They did not show it then, dude. Second and nine, I think it was McCaffrey again. He, he breaked and shaked this way to a 10 for a first down, second down, 11-yard touchdown, the kiddle. And he threw that thing all the way across his body. I just knew somebody would go grab that. Hello, bro.

He's a belief. He believed. Yeah, he believed, yeah. But I'm trying to listen, man, just, yeah, I don't know, man. 21-14, though. It's good, man. I'm thinking Indigo come back out there and do where they got. got to do, and the defense of San Francisco actually does something right.

They force a three-in-out by sacking rivers on second down. They got to punt the ball. San Francisco get the rock back, and it looked like Indie was going to come alive. First down, they're sacking, fumble, but the tight end catches the ball in the air and takes off with it, dude. Like, luck is on your side, buddy. Yeah, man, the bump time the ball bounces your way. Yeah, third down, seven. I think he hit Kittle for 12.

And then the following, I think second is seven. Purdy was, he hit more for like 20, 23, something like that. Mm-hmm. And the following second down, I think Purdy hit Kittle again for 17. Like, dude, the defense. You got him off balance. And he's really moving motions. People receive is getting open.

So it's flowing. Yeah, the defense finally held up. They were able to hold them, hold them to a field goal, I guess, you know, 24 to 14. And he get the ball with just under two minutes left. And they drive into field goal range with the help of the P.I. On that third down, and I think they had one 14-yard completion. But do he miss that third down throw? They could have got them to the tight end.

Yeah, it could have got them more than the field goal. they go to kick the field goal they make it as 24 to 17 first play out the box i think purdy comes out and he hits uh what was it uh broad or board what would do's name 14 he hit him for 14 and they end up trying a 64 yard field goal dude he barely missed that thing it hit the crossbar bro like 24 17 and halve time Yeah, if he had just got just a little more on that, dude, it could have bounced in. Yeah. San Francisco starts the third quarter in the first playout, the rip.

Kittle, 15. Kittle was killing. No. Third and eight, he hits Jennings for 21, followed by, I think it was 22 to Kettle. They first and goal at the four, third down. Jenny scores three-yard pass from Purdy. It's 31, 13. I'm really thinking it might be over with.

But somehow, they end up getting down there. I mean, that first down on a necessary roughness really helped them to midfield, though, on end. And then I think it was second and nine. He ended up picking that up with Pittman for 14. The review, they did it upheld. So they ended up stalling out of, settle for the field goal

31 to 20 and they finally found the way to at least slow him down when San Frank got the ball back I mean shit McCaffrey still first two plays I think it was a 7 yard

9 yard followed by you know Pertie to Jennings for a nice catch of 19 and then Robinson he said let me get in on this to you I ain't playing on run defense I know y'all supposed to be up there but I can't tell he'd get any

11, defense finally stands up long enough to hold them to a field goal, 34 to 20. And then Indy comes out, and they go 12 pates, 64 y'all for the touchdown, dude. It is now 34 to 27. And I'm like, yo, the defense just got to get you a chance. They got to stand out. It's a whole 14 minutes left, bro. They haven't, they've stopped them one time in this game. I mean, once or twice, I'm not, I'm not believing.

Dude, it ain't, it wasn't even to stop, bro. Then boys ain't punt the ball, bro. That's what I'm saying. Like, it was a hold'em. It was a whole, I'm like, you got to stop him. Like, it was a hold'em. San Fran, get out there, purdy, Jenny, 17. Third one, McCaffrey takes off on him for 24.

Oh. Next third down, it's Jennings again. He get 11. They first and goal at the 8 And third down Purdy to McCaffrey Nine yard touchdown It's 41, 27

It's still about Little under eight minutes left They could do something It could be something like a nail butter Possibly No Andy gets out there The defense

Sacks Rivers on the first down Put them behind the change They force a three and out They punt it These dudes give it back to San Fran. San Fran looked like they, well, they actually did. They completed one first down, and it was the second down throw.

He threw it just a little too high, I don't start. They got the ball at the, what, 29, something like that. I'm like, yo, this could be a nail-biter at the end. Like, it could be. Rivers hits Pittman for nine, I think, followed by Pierce for 22. And the next play, interception. six or touchdown six six that ended all chances that's where the game ended 48 to 27 new san francisco purdy killed them boys dude yeah 25 of he was 25 for 295 five five tuddies that was that was that was the bad part and then mcalfrey he had 211

rushing, a 21 carries for 117 rushing, which gave their, you know, their play action game more bite because the safeties was running up, leaving guys open, Kittle, being one of those people who were benefiting from that. Yeah. Seven, seven for one, 15 and a touchdown, you know, the offense didn't, like, didn't punt the ball, too.

Yeah. Like, bro. Their defense was, you know, wasn't, And even San Francisco's defense wasn't great, but they closed at all at the end with a 74-yard interception return for a touchdown on the fourth to basically put the game out of reach.

I mean, that's the only thing they really did well or did that was, you know, anything really productive. And then Indie's offense, dude, they did a good job. Like, at least, you know, in the past game, you know,

Rivers, 23, 277, two touchdowns. Yeah, I was looking crazy about that. Hey, about the, about the, yeah, prize picks. Taylor, yeah. When I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I, you know, I'm saying. Yeah, he, he, he, they just never got him going, dude. 16 carries, 46 yards.

Um, I mean, I understood that San Fran had, had a, had a good, you know, a good rush defense. I think it was like seven or eight, something like that. And, you know, Indy's defense was, you know, supposed to be good. I think they were supposed to be, like, somewhere around, like, five or six, but, boy, you couldn't tell it last night. No more could not stop nothing to save their life, bro. And then you add the special teams, they fumbled it, and then give them a short field where they scored another easy touchdown.

It was, you know, it was all over the place, man. It was, but, I mean, they got to have a little bit, boy, it's over with, they ain't really going to go. And so they ain't, dang, they got nowhere to go. I mean, the end of the day, do you know, they're missing some players. They didn't have sauce out there. They playing with Phillip Rivers.

And he did so much better than I expected. Very, very proud of him for going out there, throwing two touchdowns. You know what I'm saying? Throwing for 277 yards. Old man Rivers, baby. I wasn't expecting it. But some of his passes, like you said, he was, he had like the first play of the game. He had the javelin throw it out there.

He couldn't get it there. You know what I'm saying? But in the end zone, a couple of those posts that he threw, it's on time. still a 20, 3-yard throw, but he threw it a little, he threw it on time. He's smart. You can't never get rid of, like, the brains that he has, being able to run the offense, being able to get them in the right calls. So him doing that was a lot better than I expected.

I'm happy that he's healthy. He's able to get out of these games because I was worried about him legitimately if he was going to be able to maintain. And they're protecting him. He's not really taking too many sacks. He's getting the ball out quick. He's smart. So more respect.

You think they hold on to him until next year? to wait for Daniel to get back? Man, I don't know, Debo. I don't know. I don't see him as the long-term answer just because these 40-50-yard passes look very, very difficult. You know what I'm saying? He's throwing, it's like he's about to throw his arm out.

Being able to get them in the offense and run it is so good. I'm happy to see it. But next year, he's going to be 45. He's not getting any younger. His bones aren't getting any stronger. So I don't know about that, but he's definitely did better. and I'm happy for him.

I should have picked them in our prize picks. He went over 154 way over. I should have looked at that. That's my bad. With the San Francisco 49ers, wow. You know what I'm saying? That offense, Purdy, the way that they are just moving, motioning, you know what I'm saying?

Like, just flowing, they can, with Kiddle being able to go across the middle, with Jennings being able to get open on these passes, Brock Purdy looks so comfortable, and Christian McCaffrey is a dog. You can hand it off to him, continuously if you want to. You can screen it to them out of the backfield. Check down for Purdy is to Christian McCaffrey was going to make people miss. It's going to get missing.

Their defense at the beginning of the game, you know what I'm saying, gave up a couple of plays, but they were able to get a pick six, were able to get a lot more stops than the Colts were. So the offense really, really impressed me, you know what I'm saying, just the consistency of them being able to get drives. The easiness, it just looked easy. It didn't look like they were stressing. You just get to the McCaffrey. okay, kiddow's going to be open.

We're motioning people. We're identifying what's going on. You know what I'm saying? It just looked like a very simple, flowing offense, and Bertie was putting a ball where it needed to be, and the receivers were catching it. So I was really impressed with the 49ers. The Colt side, you know,

they're not really going to be into the playoffs. I don't think Rivers is the long-term answer. No, I'm just happy. That's not even the thought. No, for next year, I'm just happy that he's getting out of here healthy because I was not anticipating him playing this well at all. But yeah, I'm going to stop. Can I call him Old Man Rivers? Is that disrespectful to call him Old Man River? I can call him old.

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I'd be disrespectful as a... See, that's what I'm saying. I'm not trying to disrespect. That'd be real disrespectful, Joe. And you ain't go with him. I went with him. You can call him on. I call him on.

Okay. Call him on. Okay. Yeah, you call him on. Respectfully. Yes, respectfully. They didn't suspend it. D.K. for two games.

Oh. Yeah. See, this is what I was talking about, man. You can't put yourself, you know, in that position. And when they start using that words of conduct detrimental, that carries a lot of weight in contract. situation. So now, you know, it's possibly you're suspended for two games, which is a half a million. On top of that, now it's a bunch of reports that are saying the suspension can trigger void

language in the $45 million guarantee that it now puts that at risk. And, you know, like I told D.K., man, you can't let them trick us out of the bag. So the fan just got to. So the fan just got to everything he wanted in this altercation and possibly I mean it's supposed to be like a lawsuit or he got a lawyer or whatever so you don't lost money you got to fight something you know that you wouldn't have had to fight yeah NFL they obviously had to do what they had to do because they don't want this happening again they want to make sure this thing is on national TV everyone was watching at the league it's like yo we got to approach this in a manner that makes it to where future possibilities of this doesn't happen and you know they go from there but you know when you when you look at the

altercation you know and you see what happens and then come to find out that D.K. actually has a history with this same fan when they played their last year Seattle played at the Lions they he reported this same fan so now you get these things coming out where it's like okay well the fan is saying he said this dk is saying he said this but matter of fact we got a video can you play the video i want you to look at this video joan or listen Hey, D.K. Don't sign it. D.K. He's about to throw them over the way. Hey, D.K.

Hey, D.K. So in that video, yop, yop, y'all. So in that video, what do you hear? You don't hear anything said, right? So here's the thing. I'm, you know, I like to do a little due diligence. I talk to people, I go here, I go there. I do, I do, I do what I can do, you know what I'm saying.

So that video right there was originally posted on a guy's story. and it was put onto Twitter by this Primo football. Prem football, okay? And he gave credit to Kiefer underscore Kennedy, IG. Well, when you go look at it, it was a story. And it was nothing on this dude's gram about lions, fan, anything, nothing like that, right? And the original thing said he doesn't like being called his government name. Now, that was posted way before anything went out.

And there was only on a story. So with that being the case, I like to follow the breadcrumbs. He had an articulation with this guy last year. What happened last year that made him have this guy get thrown out? That he was bold enough to come back this year. This is history. And actually come up all the way down and have an altercation with him and just happen to catch it recorded as he goes to get up to walk over there. The recorder just happens to glance over, watch him walk up over and then catches everything else.

This, I don't know, this seems like a, this seems like a little bit of a setup. Maybe these guys, whoever this Kiefer Kennedy is, maybe he's friends with the guy. that actually got into the altercation with D.K. And this is something that they may have been setting up since last year. This is just a conspiracy theory. I'm, you know, I'd spitball. I follow, I follow things. So with that being said, why was he even let back in here after he was reported or D.K.

tried to get him out last year. They sound like they got a history going on here. And dude is just waiting there recording as a. Bystander, that's a fan, but I look at your page, you ain't got no fan stuff on there. And now all of a sudden, your page is private. Hmm. I don't know. I'm just saying, you know, you follow a blood trail long enough.

You find a body. I think if the NFL will deal with this, they need to deal with this from the beginning to the end and see what everything is and make sure it is what it is. Because it sounds like it might be some is in the game here. Yeah, I mean, I hear you, Debo, but I'm more to the fact of get him out of there. Like, if he said he came last year and you tried to get him out of there and he didn't get out of there, you don't need to be, just eliminate yourself in a position, try to get him out of there again. You know what I'm saying?

For this game, it's a different game. It's a dude that's recording. You going over the joint, just me speaking out of all that I hear you, don't put yourself in that position. No question. you know what I'm saying like literally we definitely need to be able to protect the players more but you're going over there putting yourself in that position and grabbing the dude and even what he's saying no words he didn't touch you you know what I'm saying and you're in there to play a game and I hear he's following you doing all this stuff we need to be able to protect the players and get the guy out of there but just in DK's position you're in there playing against the lions I ear you all this dude's talking we're making $30 million this year you know what I'm saying to go out there and do a job I don't need you off of the bench. We sent, hey, security, go get this goofy ass man out of here, period. You know what I'm saying?

I have a job to do. I'm going to go do this job because all of that walking over behind the bench, that's a lot of space, Debo, you know what I'm saying? And then going up and reaching up and grabbing the man first. You know what I'm saying? Oh, no question. The responsible thing to do. So that's why I understand.

We got to protect the players to research, everything, figure out who this dude is, why he wasn't out, why he's still there, the recording with the setup. You walking over there, though, is putting yourself in that recording, that set up. This is what I'm trying to understand on that recording, though. You don't hear he called him by his government name, but dude posted, he called him by his government name. No, I- Listen, what that means, he actually posted that during the game. What that means is he's not some innocent, just fan that was sitting there because we can't hear him called D.K.

By his government name, we also can't hear what D.K. said he said. So if that's the case, if he's just a fan that happened to record it and the dude walked away and went back up there, how did you find out what was supposedly said that ended up being exactly what the fan said was said after the game? So we did, look, this is what I'm saying. They're going to be able to hear. Hey, they both got the last name, Kennedy. I'm trying to figure it out. Weird, buddy, whoever was a recording, whoever's a dude that's probably whoever he is trying to set up D.K. Metcalfe, we got to do the research on him.

D.K., if you don't... Why are they trying to set him up, though? Because people are weird. I'm just... I don't understand. Because people try to set up famous people all the time. People named Kennedy just happened to be not knowing each other and then post this. I don't know, man.

Dudes are weird. Dudes are weird. People are weird. So they got it like at the end of the day, people are always trying to say that's the famous. Listen to this, though. Celebrities. Listen to this, though. They were on the opposite side last year.

In Seattle, when Seattle came, on the visitor sideline. Whoever this person is needs to be and should be investigated. That is 1,000% correct. I am with- Listen, they got cameras everywhere, man. That's what I'm saying. We need to know exactly. So what the people are saying...

I don't even know why he wore the wig. Was he trying to cover his face? Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. You know, I get the digging, you know? All I'm trying to say is, though, at the end of the day, if DK

protect yourself not going over there and putting your hands on somebody and that joint is going to be washed is $555,000 that you put up you know what I'm saying in jeopardy that your whole guaranteed money of the $45 million.

You don't, none of that is your fault. You need to have to play football. This is because you're messing with this weirdo that's trying to probably set you up. It's the person that has actually messed with him at two different teams. I understand that, D.B., but now you put a hand.

understand. Listen, Joe, let me talk here, buddy. I feel you. I'm just... Two different teams. Two different teams. I'll let you go. In the same city. Okay? And you are the person that comes there. And after you get it on video, you look over, yeah, we got him. Huh?

We... Yeah. Yeah. You celebrate. You know who you see the people. Hey, the responsible thing to do, obviously, go to security and let them know that you got a fan right here that needs to be taken care of, okay? And get him out of there, okay? But also to me, you can't, I mean, you can't really hear what the fans is saying, you, you hear this like background music. I don't care what he says. Occasionally, you may hear something, but for me, but for me, like, that motivated me.

I want you to hear talk trash, say all this other stuff, da-da-da-da. I never had anybody called me on my name, like, like that, and that, you know, way, shape, or form, you know, you can say I suck, I suck this, I do that, all the other stuff, I need all that. Because your negative comments, that just motivates me to want to go out there and smash your team more. Like we said, though, before, if somebody says the words to you, if they were to call somebody, now, the investigating part has to get done, but you're not, don't put yourself in the position to go over there and grab somebody and put, hey, that's it.

We're saying the same thing. The weirdo, though, like the people that are trying to get you caught up, there are people, Debo, that you know, just are trying to wait for a car to come across the road, jump in front of the car and get hit and set the people up just so they can, you know what I'm saying? To try to get money. So Rudy can try to get D.K. Meccaf to punch him to sue him and try to get some money off of him. And I told him you can't do that. You can do that.

And I understand that everything D.K. did was wrong. What I want to know is why is this fan who, is named Ryan Kennedy, okay, that's involved in the issue. Same last name is the guy who posted the video on his story saying D.K. don't like his government name, okay? That is Kiefer Kennedy. Are they related? What's going on?

Is this more than, what is the history here? It goes back to last year already. We know this. Oh, they can check on Keefer. K can't do what he did. NFL, make sure you check into what's going on because y'all need to protect him. the players, just like the players need to protect themselves. Yes.

The NFLPA, where you at? Yep. He's going to appeal. He's definitely going to appeal. I think so too, for sure, for sure. But they need to really look at this deeper than just what D.K. did and find out what led to this. Because this is a history between two individuals. It's obviously something this dude doesn't do.

enough of to make him, D.K. didn't react like that the first time when he tried to get him out when he was in Seattle. But now dude said, I got to take it a step further. Maybe. I'm just spickballing. I'm... I don't know. I hate you. Make sure you look

at everything. That's all I'm saying. They need to investigate this, Kiefer Kennedy because he could be definitely messing with him trying to get him... Keefer Kennedy, Ryan Kennedy. Ryan Kennedy. Ryan Kennedy is the person that is doing the thing, released all the book.

Kiefer Kennedy is the person that put it on his story that happened to get picked up by Prime football and put on, pream football and put on X. Come on now. And now your page is, your, Kiefer, your page is private now. Saw your story before. You're like, why are you making it? There was a bunch of people over there, Debo.

He had nothing on his page that was lying fans related either. He was cutting down trees, bro. I'm just saying with the media and with everybody, all those cameras, you see the, it was a lady sitting there with her son that she tried to like move out of the way to see what's going on. I don't think that front row couple was involved. That lady that was right there, we can go ask her. I didn't say it was the front row couple.

I'm saying the guy that's just saying when he said that and saying that D.K. doesn't like his government name said, the lady that was sitting right there a source that wasn't involved at all you hear what dk said he said then this dude says that we he said what was said then we can hear the surrounding crew there was words being exchanged who heard what they said you know what they said it's a random source you know what i'm saying you can go collect the in the evidence of who did it like you said do the investigation figure out who was all in that section people know the tickets people know the seats so dk they can do all of that they can do all of that stuff so they need to

investigate that to make sure that this dude isn't, you know what I'm saying? That's for sure. I'm with you a thousand. Investigate this man. If he's trying to really set up D.K., do some weird stuff. Look here, man. It's a good thing I screenshot at Kiefer Kennedy's thing because I'm an investigative reporter, baby. No, for sure.

When I need to, baby, I'm going to get down to the bottom. I love it. I'm here at, too. Hey, man, John Harbaugh said he ain't worried about his job security. He said, I tried to do my job, not try to keep my job.

What do you think of that? I kind of like that response, though. He's basically just saying, as long as I do my job, I'll keep my job. I can't worry about not keeping my job. And I think people who actually like worry, like you worry about it,

I think you start focusing on what not to do to lose it instead of what you need to do to be successful. Yep, yep. I think that's the correct answer because if you start trying to switch stuff up and start panicking, That's not what got you there.

That's not the leader that you are. That's not what, you know what I'm saying, made him the coach that he is today. So doing what he's doing, attacking each day, going about trusting in his process is basically what he's saying that's got me here and what I got to be focused on. Because if I start switching up and acting funny, that's just not me. That's just not what I do. And I start worrying about the wrong stuff. Team would know this.

You know what I'm saying? That's not what it is. So I respect his answer. It might not be what you want. But legitimately, if he's trying to be what he's like, he's, like, he'd be. believes in what he believes in this process, that's the answer you should get. Yeah, for sure. And then, you know, he had to hit him back with, you know, my focus has been the last 18 years here, and the last 41 years coaching is to try to do the best job I can

today and fight hard as I can so the guys can have the best chance to be successful today. And after today, I'm not thinking about because it's not given to. us to think about. So he's saying, I got a resume, what I looked like worrying. That's basically what he's saying. You said what I happened to say it, man.

You said what I'll have to say it. Man, what is it? Penesul, he said he's not happy about playing him Christmas. He said, I'm going to be really honest. I'm not happy. We already had Thanksgiving. We already play on Thanksgiving and the fact that we have to play on Christmas and always is something I wouldn't want to do. I ain't got no problem with him saying it. I mean, wouldn't nobody want to play on a holiday or work on a holiday, period. It's a job. Yeah. I don't think he's bitching or complaining. Somebody probably asked him a question about, you know, what he would prefer.

Like, do you like playing on Christmas Day? Right. And then, like, if you want to get, if you want to ask the question and you want them to give you an honest answer, you know what I'm saying? Not like, oh, y'all be so happy to play in front of the whole world.

They know, listen. I just, look at here. I could play in front of the whole world the day before or after. On Sunday at 1 o'clock, you know what I'm saying? So if you want to be honest, if you want to ask the questions, I'm like, honestly, I would much rather wake up

at Christmas and be able to be home and chill with the family. You know what I'm saying? The normal stuff that everybody else does. But it's a job. Like you said, everybody want to be off on Christmas.

If you ask me like, would you want to work on Christmas or be off on Christmas? Like, the only way I'm going to tell you, I would rather work on Christmas is if you told me, would you rather work on Christmas

or had no job? Yeah. I'm working on Christmas. That's the only way I'm picking Christmas. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Like, I ain't got zero nan, not a issue with what he's saying here. man. Honesty is the best policy. And that's why I like when people just say, do you have a problem what he's asking? I'm like this, do you have a problem with people answering questions honestly?

You know what I'm saying? Right. Do you want them to give you the PT one like this? Oh, no, for sure. Like, no. I love it. I want to play every Christmas. That hell of every Christmas.

Yeah, I never want to wake up at the house. And I ain't never wanted to play on Thanksgiving or Christmas. I want to watch. I love that. I want to be sitting at home like this. Like, man, And they're out there hitting. They hit.

Boy. God, love it. Hope we get a turkey leg after the game. The turkey hit, boy. Yeah. They fried. That fried to hell, yeah. Okay.

Off the second game, got the little narcolepsy at halftime, waking up. They're still hitting. They still hitting out there? Like this right here, third quarter, huh? They're hitting. Let me get another piece of pot. We get some more sweet potato pie. Yes.

Yeah. Yes. Get that on around here. That is way. better? Yeah, man. I guess they asked Davian Clownie. They asked him a question and he said he was, he was motivated to play, what keeps him motivated to play despite Dallas being out of it. He said, what you mean motivated? They're paying me. That's enough motivation for me. I like money. That's not just that. I represent more than the team. I'm playing for myself, my family supporting me.

I'm playing for everybody that's been with me from the beginning. And I ain't never quitting on nothing. I ain't going to be hard. It ain't going to be hard for me to get up and play in no game and do my job. Yeah. Yeah. Debo. I love it.

Debo. There we go. I love it. Come on. Like, there's another, the same question that the same from the previous one. do you want us to answer realistically or do you want them to give you a PT answer a fake answer?

You know what I'm saying? I think this stands for a lot of people and this one I say when I was with the Browns too like, do like, are you motivated? Yes. Yes. I've been motivated my whole life to be the best cornerback in the world.

You know what I'm saying? That's what motivates me every day to wake up to go to practice, to watch film, to do the training, to do the treatment, to not go out, you know what I'm saying, to not do the other things because I'm really trying to be the best that I can beat. I look at this as winning the lottery every single year. I play football for free, my whole life, and now I'm nice.

I'm in the league. I'm at the best of the best. I'm an elite, and that's what I'm going to do and be able to make a fortune playing it. So I'm going to stack my chips. I'm going to save my money, and my honest guy don't lie. The tape is the tape. Everybody's going to watch this film, and you're going to be telling me that

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You know what I'm saying? So coaching them up, like, it's not that hard. to get up no you know your great player is going to be ready for the game because he's great he expects himself to be great and if he doesn't perform he's madder than everybody so like it's like oh no you're dropping the ball i'm like this that dude's pissed because he expects himself to catch that ball he's not so don't even like it might not be around he's like nah right i'm nice i can go get that those are the players that you like this oh yeah like no no that's not my man no no i can guard anybody you know what i'm saying so that answer

it's like the motivation, it's the money for sure, it's my family, it's the name of my back, it's because this is what I do, it's because I get paid a lot because I'm that dude. You know what I'm saying? So this answer is what I was saying. Like when you're playing with the Brown, sometimes you're losing, like, Joe, were you still, yes, yes, I'm that dude, I'm all pro, I'm Joe, you're all going to see me out there and I'm not the reason why we're losing. You're going to have to find another reason.

It's not going to be pointing at me, you know what I'm saying? So you go up on it with it, but like that joint hits home for me because like playing on the teams that's been eliminated, I would, I would, I feel you. I feel you. Yeah, I don't, I don't think these reporters really understand or they just need to ask some stupid questions or just do something. Like, it's his job, dude. He wants to keep his job. He wants to do his job well so that he can continue to have a job. He's, he has a name that he represents.

his family, everything else that go along with that. And I think just because, like, they can't understand, why would you keep playing and you aren't even going to the playoffs because that's my job. That's what I do. You know, that's like a, you're a writer or a journalist. And you know what? You're not in the running for the Pulitzer.

For the Pulitzer. And now you stop writing. You have no motivation. listen, that's stupid. You still got to do your job. That's why you out here asking these goofy stupid questions trying to get a headline, trying to get some type of clout so that people will look at you and say he is a good writer.

He comes up with good stories. It's the same thing that motivates everybody in a job because this is a job to do well to keep their job. Uh-huh. I'm asking stupid questions. NFL, not for, long. You're not going to, like, somebody's coming to take DeVion Clowny's job. He's trying to show he can still be a professional player. Yes. Yes. Like, dude, every year, you're trying to, you're trying to do

more to get more out of your body. Trying to figure out what it is you need to do. As you get older, you need to do more recovery to get rid of it. Your off-season, for me, has to be, it was my hardest thing to do. Like, when I did my off-season work, I was glad the off-season was done, because now I got to get into the end. I got to get into season. There's no way I can grind like that in-season. I'm just trying to maintain what it is I built up and then keep healthy and as, you know, healthy as possible by making sure I'm doing the things to recover fast enough because the older you get, you know, Joe, the longer it takes to recover. Man, you ain't line, you know, that normal, oh, I played on Sunday, I'm a little sore on Monday, I'm good, Tuesday.

Oh, no, that's, that turns on Thursday. Damn, I'm still in. That turns Thursday, yes. Damn. Thursday. You wait on Friday, you wait on Friday, you know, walk through, uh, fly around practice to get back right. Fast Friday is when I finally feel fast. I'm like, yes.

They don't understand that, bro. It's a hard road to hold out there. And I, in the good, and when you, like you said, today, Mount Clowny is getting answers from older vets. He knows he's in year 10 in the lead. Boy, these dudes can cut me tomorrow. You know what I'm saying? There's younger rookies coming in, that undrafted class coming out of college.

These dudes are hungry. They just want a shot. They run through a wall for the $3.99. Clowny's like, I know what's going on. I mean, these years where all of this tape matters. Like, they see me getting thrown out the club. The client back in the league. No question.

No question. That's simple, man. Like, y'all just asking questions to ask questions because y'all ain't got nothing else to do, man. Like, come up with something else, man. What motivates you to keep writing when you're writing is trash? Yeah. Yeah, let me go ahead, flip it around to you.

You know what I'm saying, man? What motivates you to keep asking these dumb-ass questions? Mm-hmm. You know? Get out of here. Hey, Joe. What's up, brother? Who you got, defensive player of the week, bro.

What are you going with? Who I got a defensive player the week. Who you got? You know me. I just go give it to the whole still as defense. You know me. Shout out nephew. Shout out nephew.

I give it to Joey Porter Jr. also. And Cam, And Cam Hayward, running sideline to sideline, sack. Listen, man, don't give it to the whole defense, man. The whole, everybody broke off a piece, man. Everybody got him some. Everybody got them some, yeah. Sawyer got him some.

High Smith got him. High Smith was out the joint, who been? High Smith got him some. Yeah. Still his defense, respectfully. Still his defense. Respectful. defense.

100%. They held them 18 yards Russia. 100%. Look here, Joe. We got a Superteller. Uh-oh.

Who we got, brother? Creek Knox 6-2-8-8 donated $5 and said, I love the way Dibo is investigating this. This makes you think. Yes, it does.

Listen. I'm trying to tell y'all something, man. Listen, I come from a, from a big family. I'm the youngest of 14. Okay. So you got a lot of people that say this, say that, say that, say that. You got to investigate to see who tell the truth.

And who line? I didn't did this from the time I was knee-high to a grasshopper. Now I'm eight years removed from my nearest sibling. Okay. So that means they had the game before me. me. Okay? So I had to go ahead and discover how to figure out who telling me the real and who's telling me the fake. Who's trying to pull a wool over my eyes. Mm-hmm.

I'm trying to lift up my eyelids so I could see. You had to tell the difference between friend or foe. Y'all just don't know. If I get on it, if James get on the case, I'm going to get to the bottom of it. I'm just trying to tell you. I'm going to get to the bottom of. Oh, man, I love, I love the detective. We had one Kennedy conspiracy long time ago. Mm-hmm.

Now, in the 60s, now we got, we got, we might have another one. I don't know. Hey, 2025 is the new, I don't know, man. I'm just, you know, I like to, you know, I like to theorize. and then when my theories start once they get legs you just like the gold to come you know how you follow the money

you want to figure out what's going on with something you follow the money this right here it's the same thing it's the same thing we following the money you gotta follow the money I'm just saying who ran up to Kennedy and said hey man what happened man did all this other stuff

but like I said man just do the investigation they got to Debo I don't know we just can't take one person word for it just don't take any word for There's a lot of people around there, man. Mm-hmm. Just too many things, you know?

D.K., make sure you hit up the NFLPA, man. So make sure they go ahead and dig into this thing, man. You got to. I'm just they have to. You can't do what you did. We already agreed to that. Yes. But it's some shit in the game that ain't adding up to just a chance encounter.

Okay? Mm-hmm. I'm just saying, Joe. No, Debo, listen, I am, we already said, because we got it across. You said Debo can go into the thing and put his hands because it's not helping his case. But the investigation part of why are they following them, like, why are they keep doing this messing with D.K. Mekad, we need to get on these people. Like, I think it might be, it's a set of people are crazy. People jump in front of cars to sue people and get some money.

So that's legit. Blamming on your brakes in front of trucks. Oh, yes, man. Don't hurt. Put it in reverse sometimes. Get caught on camera. For real. Get caught on camera.

They got the dash cams. I'm looking. Just jumping it up. Just reverse. Bam. Getting out. My neck. My neck and my back.

My back and my neck. I'm saying. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Out there's weirdos out here, people. Hey, man, who we got, man for this, for this Christmas football, man. Man, we got a bunch of back. We got Lions and Vikings.

Who else? It's two more, ain't it? We got Thursday night football, Lions and Vikings. And then it's two more. It's one at one, Cowboys at Commanders and Broncos at Chiefs. That's Christmas Day lineup, man. Mm-hmm. So we got the Broncos beating the Chiefs.

Because pass out for the year. Pass out. Pass out for the year. Yeah. You say the lions are playing The Vikings They have the Vikings though Lions

They got a day down They're not going out like I don't know about that They're professionals I understand what you're saying But I kind of I kind of like their defense better I like the Vikings defense better

Okay I can see that I just like the Lions offense a lot more What did they do? No, just the players, just the players that they have. They might not have did it last, they might not have did the last time to win. I mean, they ain't, they kind of ain't really did it like in the last few weeks, Joe. I'm just saying. And then you go go go over here where they're going to be blowing that damn horn.

I, are we going to see? Piping in noise and all that. I ain't say that. They do. They do. I don't know. The saints was pipe. I don't know.

I'm just saying. I'm just saying, I know I don't heard. There's some noise that didn't sound like, you know, you get that. I'm like, come, man. Nothing sounds like that. That sound, bro. I turn around, everybody's mouth closed looking at the game. Yep.

Ain't no way I'm supposed to be here. Yep. They got laser beams in here. You know who used to do that, though, real bad. Indy, boy. Andy? Yep. Set you off on here.

See, I don't remember Andy, though. I think New Orleans did it on this one time for show. So we got one Thursday night football. That's a prime, right? Then the other two on Netflix. Netflix? You got to get... You feel about that, Joe?

About Netflix. Netflix now, Joe. But I got all the apps. Okay. I got all the apps for, man. The peacock. I mean, I know, I know you. I mean, you know, you're a DB, you know, you...

That paper, you know, you ain't... Man, come on you, you know. You got to have the app. I mean, I just, it is what it is. I mean, I ain't never seen nobody that got two cars or the same car, just different colors because he liked it that much, you know? Debo, that's what I'm trying to tell you.

I was fortunate, the Lord, the blessings to play the game. You know what I'm saying? Play the game. Oh, you thought, oh, you do that too. I wasn't talking about you. But go ahead. Tell me what you're talking about. You got two cars the same color that are the same

made model just different colors. I was joking. I was joking. No, no, no, no, no, no, Joe. No, no, no, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, no, no, Joe, Joe, Joe, no, no, Joe, Joe, no, no, Joe, Joe, Joe, no, no, I'm just saying. I mean, I don't know, man, that's me. You know, I don't know nobody that got two Maybacks different colors. I don't know.

I mean, not personally. Now, I didn't until I met somebody until I started doing a show with somebody. No, sir. I don't think I don't do one show with somebody. I don't think I only until I got to until I started doing a show called Devo and Joe

co-host name Joe I'm just anyway Hey what happens on Sunday Joe Who you like? Who you like?

I need my hat Joe You know what game is Sunday? right, Joe. Yeah, I know. Okay. Yeah, I know. Hey, hey, the team I need, I want both teams to have fun. I just want to know who you, who you got, Joe. This is the whole thing, for real, for real, honestly, now sense it to the nitty gritty. Well, the Browns love, you know, my heart, honest, like you said, when I'm retired, I'm going to be with them. But right now, we don't need to win. My stillers need this win more than the

Browns. So I want us to have, both teams have fun. They could look good, not do terrible. I want them to, you know what I'm saying? Show progress. Your door. Do you do good. But they still got to take the L. They still got to lose by a little bit. Just because, just because. Hey, y'all, Joe, don't flip over now. No, no, no, no. The mathematic elimination is not going on.

Hey, Joe, hold up. Listen, hold up. Let's do this. Let's just play, you know, if, if was a fifth. Okay. This is, this is fantasy. This is, you know, this is what it is. Yes. Now, the game comes. it's now the winner goes to the playoffs

the loser is kicked out who you want to win Joe oh yeah you already know that now I might have to draw you already know Debo Joe you can't draw

we're gonna no no I'm not I'm gonna have to draw the line in the sand that's what I'm saying I'm about to make I'm about to say something here yeah I'm going with my Cleveland Browns

you dirtball I told you all I'm going You can't lay in ban with snakes. You can't be over there with snake. I'm trying to tell you. You can't. Play with snakes, they go bite you.

They go bite you. And I knew. I knew that boy was a snake. I knew it was a snake. You've been surfing and squirpies. All that. Clearly, y'all know what it is. I love it still as too.

But you are, if you were just to fly out, yeah. Hey, man, get that helmet behind you off. Get that helmet. Take that off, man. I don't want to see nothing black and gold no more, man. No. Helmet right there. No.

Right there. Nope. Right there. Nope. It's like right here. Right there. It's right here. Whichever one it is. You see that orange ham with that white stripe on?

Hey, look, right here, right here. Yes. Hey, Joe, Joe, Joe, you use it. Ooh, hey. No. Get rid of the other one. You ain't no, listen, bro. You ain't know.

Get rid of them over there, bro. No. And I still ain't got my J's neither. I'm gonna get your J's, man. No, hell to the gnaw, no. Hey. If y'all Listen, I knew it

Oh, Debo, chill out, man Don't do me like that I knew it I knew it I can't turn my back on you I can't turn my back on you I know I can't And I was thinking like

You know, maybe I could turn around No, no, no No, no Before me Trust me, I will always protect you, bro I will never, ever, ever You ain't gonna protect me when I want my

When I want my stillers to win And we both in the battle For the spot This one I'm telling you Listen, Debo, Debo, You go tripping? Listen, maybe we'll, no, no, no. Listen, we ain't never, we don't know.

I'm a triple, I'm a tripper Browns player if that get us to win. See, you're going to get a flag. You don't get a flag. You don't get a flag. Don't get a, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, you ain't. You'll do whatever. You're going to do whatever's necessary. No, I'm not going to cheat.

We just got him to do what he said he. They're going to have to do it the right way. Bull spit. They're going to have to do it the right way. You want to see. No, you don't. This hat gone. Bro.

It's a lie. It's a fallacy. I knew it. I knew it. No, no. Get your Brown's hat. When I was, look, I was on the Steelers when they beat us, but I had COVID and watched the game and watched the game and was rooting for the food. Well, you got me ready to smoke and drink because I, damn, you had me.

You had me full. Had me full. I knew it. I knew I shouldn't trust. Hey, hey, listen, we want to thank y'all for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm going to get out of here for I pop up. Man, look. Make sure y'all hit the like and subscribe.

Please. Didn't I just tell you who did I want to win this weekend? Who did I want to win this weekend? Who cares? When it comes down to an even up, you say you just want to have both teams have fun. You're a lie. You a lie. He's a dirtball.

He's a dirtball. He is sheep and wolves cold and he has taken dirt, dog, whatever it may be. I'm just so flustered right now. Hey, listen. Just a little bit. Back here on for, I don't even know. if I'm a half a gross on Friday. This has befuddled me.

No, Devo. It has, I'm destroyed. Let me see what other Joe's I know. Keep it, Debo and you. Hey, man. Ain't no other Joe, man. Ain't no other Joe, man. No, man.

You, you my ace bonkone where everything ain't going to go smooth, baby. You know what I'm saying. But I know. My dog, God. I know I can't trust you. You got it out. See, you got it out of me.

I got it out of me. I got it out. me. Hey, he's speaking the truth now. He's speaking the truth now. Now we get three games. Merry Christmas, everyone. Merry, Merry Christmas. We done found out what Joe really is.

Oh, Lord, thank you. I know you were going to show me something today. I just didn't know it was going to be there. It hurt me a little bit, but it showed me that I was on the right path. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord. You know, all right. It is what it is, man.

Yes, man. Y'all have a wonderful Christmas. man, Merry Christmas. We will see you guys here on Friday, Joe. Yes, yes, yes. Everybody, thank you. Have a Merry Christmas, and we will see you on Friday. Let's get it.

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