Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - Eagles-Giants REACTION: Jaxson Dart STUNS Jalen Hurts + Steelers-Browns preview

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to a Thursday Night Football where Jaxson Dart and the New York Giants took down Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles. Later, Deebo & Joe breakdown the biggest matchups heading into Week 6 of the 2025 NFL season! Timeline:00:00 - Eagles fall to Giants17:40 - Shedeur not Brown QB227:00 - Joe Flacco to Bengals29:56 - Michael Irvin GOES OFF 38:00 - Chris Jones slacking43:00 - Lamar Jackson Playing?56:40 - Who is Joe rooting for? (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NIghtcap See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. Joe, hey, before we get into it, how was your trip back?

Bro, trip back was great, man. Thank you, Debo. The only thing that was crazy was I know. need to get that global entry because I was in a customs line for like 45 minutes when I got back so I got to get the global entry up that was a rookie move on my part but besides that flight was good direct straight to IAD smooth back good thank you question no question no question you got to get global range you don't do that you got to give up a lot but it ain't like they can't see everything anyway oh my god they know me it's straight through it's like two minutes I had I had it

when I did Mexico City. Bro, I saw the global entry people going through, and my phone was dying, so I couldn't even download the app. So I just took it. I talked it up for L. Won't happen again. Yeah, you've got to go through a whole little process, though. It ain't just apply, and that's it.

They got to call, you got to do an interview, you got to do all that. I did that. There's no process to it, though. Okay. But, you know, the Giants went on ahead and did their thing right there, you know, against Philly. Crazy. Dude, I did not see that coming, especially, you know,

as soon as the game started, like Philly, The first two plays, Sequin, go 18 to 13. Yes. And I'm like, okay, it's about to be something. They get a hot field goal, but the Giants come back and, dude, on two consecutive third downs, they get like 30 on the one third down. And then the next one, Dart scrambles for a 20-yard touchdown, dude. Bro, Dart popped off the game. Like, when Eagles came down, like you said, they stalled out.

You know what I'm saying? So they couldn't get the touchdown. Sequan only got the two carries popping off looking sweet. But when Stark got the ball and he was just able to, his first pass to the, what my man, the six four, the six four off the practice squad. He had nameless great faces receivers that he was out there throwing it too. And then Eagles having a great call on defense. They had a spy for him, Dibaud.

He was able to juke the spy, run, get the touchdown. I'm like, okay, he's looking. He did exactly what he had to do. So the game popped off, super exciting. Yeah, then Philly came back out and they had a, what was it, like a negative three-yard run. Then they got sacked, so they were up out of their three-and-out. And here come your boy dart again. Yes.

Dude. Like, unbelievable. I think it was one for almost 30, another one, 35. Do you go another touchdown. He was scrambling, bro. He was being able to use his legs. Like, just creating plays, being just dodging, making sure being smooth, bro. it was looking like he was he was in control of the game he wasn't making any bad

plays he was doing things on time and he just and I ain't going to lie to you the one thing I liked the ball dart not to lie like when I look at a quarterback too some quarterbacks look goofy in their equipment you know what I'm saying he looks sweet my man got the spat on he got the swag on point his swag is on point like he looks like I'm like this I'm looking like this young I want that quarterback to be a quarterback of my team because he just looks cool he looks comfortable he looks in the flow. He's having fun. He's enjoying it. And he's swagging when he was doing it. So I just had to throw that out there. I know they don't mean nothing. But you know how you had a dude looking just goofy. Some dudes just look goofy in his equipment, aka Ravens quarterback

backup. He comes out there. I'm like this. He looks a little bit nervous. Dark doesn't look nervous. He looks like he's a control. He looks like he's chilling. He looks he'd done this before. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. But Philly Pop back out there. Less than, what, four minutes, a little close to four minutes, 75 yards. They get a touch. time. And I'm like, yo, this is just the first quarter. We're about to have one of those games where it's going to be back and forward, back and forward, back and forth.

When he scored, he threw the deep joint to AJ Brown, one-handed, fire. You know what I'm saying? So getting him, trying to get them involved. So definitely it looked like it was going to be good. That's, it was 10 to 13 right there when they went down. Yeah, then get back, right back out there second quarter. They get another seven, another eight minutes off the clock, 75 yards. Yes, yes, yes.

Table's turning, you know, Giants done held up long as they could, you know. Debo, that's when they did all them damn tush pushes. Yes. And you see he went off sides on the one, though. And he jumped on the second one. Yeah, you see he went off sides on the one. They need to review these tush pushes, man. And did you hear the referee, though?

They said he went off the side. And the referee was like, in real time, you know, you probably couldn't really tell. I'm like, oh, my God. Listen, stop it. So we're going real time now, so we ain't calling penalties. Y'all ain't doing the same slow-mo when the defense get a hair jump and they're in the neutral zone. Y'all doing that same thing.

Come on, give me that same courtesy. They want to score points. And the Giants ended up going right back and answered. Dart and Scataboo went on head and said, you know what? We go ahead and get this 20 to 17 a half time. Yes, yes. He was totally in that pill. He was laying.

He was coming down with the crown of his helmet, Debo. He runs with the chron of his helmet down. Listen, man, I don't have a problem with that because you got to protect yourself. You got to drop your head. He can't go just drop his head and do like this to get popped. He's trying to get down. Like, I understand that. So, you know, I'm, when you come in to make a tackle or something, you know, you can't steer in there because you're not even being able to wrap.

So I understand that. But at halftime, you got, you got Sequin with, basically, he had three carries that was 49 yards. And then another five carries that was, what, maybe eight yards. So he ended up half time with eight carries, 56 yards. And then he ended the game, dude, with only four more carries in 58. Like, I don't know what they're thinking. Anyway, man, that's at the half. We'll get to that later.

And then, dude, the third quarter starts. Yes, yes, yes. He'll go them two dudes again. Them two dudes, darting, darting skibow. They activate. Activate. Came out that joint looking sweet. Then they had to, I think the first one,

Dart threw a great pass. They made a good play on third and two, so knocked it down, so they had to punt. Then, this is when the Eagles get the ball in the second half, where I'm like, all right, now do y'all got to stop. Let's make something to happen. Jalen Hertz, it was a blown coverage on that third and eight with Devonte Smith running scott free down the field.

That's a play you have to make. You have to make that. That's seven. That's literally, you know what I'm saying? All day. All day. That's just a little dump in the, in the bucket so that they missed

that. That's one play with, I think that that one really turned momentum. I think there was a lot of plays in the game that could have changed, you know what I'm saying, the outcome. Well, of course, the closer you get to the end, the more, you know, it could have changed momentum, you know, for sure. Plays that you miss or make. But he missed that one and they had to punt the ball.

Mm-hmm. And like you said again, Scataboo, started giving them what they wanted. Mm-hmm. No, I go ahead. Yeah, I said it was out of control, man. Man, like, these two rookies was doing their thing on.

They went crazy. And then that's the one when they scored. And they started, like I said, the swag, the over. Did you see them dancing together, having a good time coming with the vibes? Like, everybody was, the energy was so real, bro. So I was rocking with just seeing them dudes. I'm like, yo, the Giants look sweet. They look energetic.

You know what I'm saying? Everybody's making plays. So that was made it 27 to 17. Yeah. Right. And then Eagles get the line. Well, that, I ain't going to lie. that Chavez was big, because he ended up getting sacked.

You know, the Giants challenged that catch. They reversed that catch. He got to get sucked and they had to punt the ball. Okay, right. Yeah. Correct. Right. But, like, you know, the killer was, you know, when they got to that fourth quarter,

and he shorted that ball, threw it a little behind him, and dude was able to pick that off. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Like, that really, you know, it changed momentum like crazy where, you know, you thought they might have had a chance. And then the Giants, you know, they get the ball. Oh, hold on, Debo, we got to go back. We got to go back.

We got to go back. We got to go back to when we, when I thought Jackson Dart was going to be hurt. And we're going to get in and out. He came in and threw the ground ball. And Debo got the screen. Hey, hey, I'm still going to go with that, man. That was just a, you know, that was a glitch. You know, you get glitches into get.

That was a just quick little glitch. He had to go on head, do what to do, get back in there. I have to just say how much I laughed at how Debo was spazzing on the control, like the, the, you know how you had the... Hey, everybody went into the tent. Everybody to... Hey, what's going on? You know he out here throwing this motherfucker in the dirt, right? Boy, it's 309.

You see the, he'd have threw it in the dirt. Oh, man. Okay, my bad. I just had the, I just had the point out of that. Yeah, I was going to let it slide, but you know what I'm saying? No, Debo, that had me laughing. I'm like, I'm like, they are in. in dire need for that quarterback,

darn if you don't get the hell out that tent, everybody went in the tent. Yes, everybody had to go in the tent. What's going on? These doctors don't know what the hell they did. Hold on, man. No, he's good. Daveo was like, he's good.

Yeah, yeah, get him on out here. Did you just see what we saw? Get him on out. He'll be all out here. He'll be all right. And like I said, he threw that pick and then they get, finally, when we thought was a stop,

they get a huge, Philly get a huge P. that keeps the drive alive, and they're able to score again. And it's 34 to 17, dude. Yes, sir. Yes, sir, 3417. And then this is what I'm saying then. And then we got my man, where is Sequin? They have him out the game.

They keep giving the ball, dropping it off to Dylan. And I'm not, no disrespect to AJ Dillon. Mm-hmm. Cough to Joan up. You know what I'm saying? Another turnover, which is going to literally finish the game. And then Scatterbrew and Singleton was able to run out. The demoralizing part of this, though.

Please. The boys went six-minute offense on them. Yes. Okay? And you know they're going to run the ball. Toting it. Run, run, and you cannot stop it over and over and over. And they run the clock out with almost seven minutes left on the clock to end the game, bro.

Yes, bro. That's what I'm realizing right down. That's what reminded me that Marshawn Lynch. And you keep hitting them in the face over and over, over, over. over and over you know they was turning shoulders they was turning shoulders to some of them his he was lowering his shoulders too at the uh when they was getting towards that third and fourth quarter man for sure he lifted scatibor he even went bro scatibu got the 15 yard penalty because he finally got lifted up out of balance but he took him off his feet and he ran back over like yeah still first down and they threw a flag on him i'm like oh man you got to grow up on that he still ran for the 15 he already right i don't care what you did to him go ahead Don't give him a little cheap 15. He took the 15 and still went and got another first down though. I was like, oh, he don't care.

They still ran out the clock after that. Like, that wasn't the like, oh, no, you're going to give him the ball back, give him a chance on your, you messed up. He's like this. No, okay, I'll get that 15 back. And they know I'm tooting it. Him and Singletary was running that thing crazy to close the game. I know they felt ridiculous.

Yeah, yeah, Philly got some problems over there, dude. The offense, they only converted one third down, dude. Bro, one third down, 75 yards rushing, dude. Here's the thing, like, you got 75 yards rushing. Last year, y'all was second in rushing. Y'all did 179 yards of rushing on average. Like, what are we talking about? Like, you were almost 42% on third down.

I think that was 10th in the lead. Mm-hmm. And now, as of today, you're only getting 95% As an average for your rush per game, like you're 26, dude. You were built on rushing the ball. Last year, you only had 187 yards passing a game. This year, you're trying to do it more. You still only got 179 passing the game.

Last year you was 28. This year, I mean, last year it was 29. This year, you're 28. Like, you ain't did nothing better. And your third down efficiency doesn't drop to 34%. Like, situationally, you're terrible. Five out of the last six games, Sequin ain't even had over 60 yards rushing.

You got hurts getting sacked left and right. Rather, he's missing receivers that's open, not seeing them or whatever's going on. You're not running the ball. Like, you were built on, like, running the rock. That's what y'all did. Yes. You have just totally abandoned it.

Like, you got to get back. to it. I don't, I just don't understand it. I mean, you're exactly right. There's no reason Sequan Barkley, how you started the game with the two carries for those explosive plays and you don't continue to give him the ball. Like, if he gets less than 15 touches, it's a crime. You have Sequin Barkley on your team, on your squad. How are you going to get established the run? You have to continue to give him the ball. You got to keep some, like, there's no flow of the game when you're not getting him, the ball getting him going. And you don't have to keep giving it to him, throw him a scream.

Listen, you have to give him the ball running. I don't care about touches and all. You have to give him the ball running. Why? Because he has the ability to make one dude miss and go ahead and strike the band up for 40, 50, 60 yards, whatever that may be. So for you to not consistently get him to ball to get those opportunities, don't make no sense to me. when you've already had success doing it last year. That's what you did.

Now you don't let all these people running around here saying you're not being able to do this. He can't do that. He can't pass this. He can't catch this. I'm not catching that. Change what made y'all successful. I don't understand that. I wouldn't care.

If I'm the head, dude, I don't give a damn what they say. If we winning, ain't nothing about to get changed. No. I don't care if we're 28, 29th in passing. We're second to Russian. What are we talking about here? I don't understand it, Doug. I don't get it either, Debo.

It's something. Something's up because he's not even in the game sometimes, though, Debo. So that's what I'm asking. The threat is not even there. He's not even in the game. So there has to be something where I'm like, what is going on? It has to be something in the, like, why are the coaches not having Sequant in the game? I don't know to expect to A.J. Dillon, but we saw what Seekon was able to do and leading that team to what they were

able to do last year. It's not too much different than him getting less than 15 touches is when y'all keep continuing to lose what, there's something that I'm not seeing. Because if you have him on your team, he's healthy, he looks like he wants to get the ball, give him the rock. You know what I'm saying? Like, it doesn't seem to you are. Like, man, you're saying

the same thing. Listen, I don't pay you all that money. I'm going to use you up. I'm not managing anything, man. We're about to get back to where we were and try and repeat this thing. The Giants, they, you know, they two rookies came out there and and did what they needed to do.

And they're improving. Like, you know, from one game to the next, the offensive line actually played well, especially in the running game in the fourth quarter, you know I'm about to run the ball and you can't stop. That was. Hefez played great situation of football. Third down, they only gave a 1% on third down.

Y'all gave a one third down. One. I mean, I don't even know how many times that can be said in the game period. That's elite. Yes. What are we talking? And they're not known as like that super elite defense, but they have a good defensive line.

But one third down? Those D-Ns, man, those like both, both all them, like number zero, five, they're getting after the quarterback. And at the same time, the secondary, no miscommunications, no people just run a Scott free down the secondary. But at the same time, I'm going to say, when your offense is converting at a clip of 11, they were 11 for 16.

I'm going to say 11 for 15 because Russell came, in there, threw it in the dirt. So my man Jackson Dart, he was a little for 15 for third downs. And that is, making sure he didn't turn it over. No, just make, man, come on, he just made sure he didn't throw a pit. So I respect it. You know what I'm saying? It was what it was. I hope somebody, I didn't, they didn't show the replay. I hope somebody tipped it. But that joint hit the ground, like quick. So that was that I'm not blaming it on Dart. They was 11, 15. And I saw that. That's the most since 2014 converting 11 third downs in the Giants history. They haven't done that in 11 years. So

him just going out there being able to continue being able to make those passes on third down third and eights overs deep overs on the dime and like dropping passes not just touch balls like no defense a lot of those they were saying the dory jackson wasn't in addition he was in position a lot of plays and they were just making tough catches great great passes in a spot where only the receiver can get it and you can't so that was dark being dart in 195 yards isn't nothing to like go home about but the way that he was to be able to create on third using his legs. What he had? Like 13 rushes for 58 yards in a touchdown.

17 for 25, 195 in a touchdown. That's great football in the way that he did it being able to be so efficient on third down. Moving the chains, keeping drives alive. That's winning football. And he looked like a baller. Like if Jackson Dark can just do that, eliminates, he didn't have no turnovers. He was sad probably two times. But like him being able to scramble, use his legs.

And then keeping his eyes. down field. Those receivers aren't the best receivers. Like, nobody's going to be able to, none of those receivers are all pros. None of receivers men, pro bowlers. He had dudes off the street. Right. And they were making them look great. Catch the ball, run the right route. I'm going to put it there. You just

catch it. You know what I'm saying? That makes, that gives everybody confidence. Like, you do your job. I'm going to do my. I'm going to put the spot ball where it needs to be. You make the catch. And we're going to keep this thing going. So I'm very, very excited for the way that Jackson Dart was planned. And the way he looked so calm. It looked like this is what I

I do. I'm normal. I've been doing this my whole life. And the moment's not too big. I'm just, I'm out here chilling. Like, I'm playing football. And I love it. Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure. He did. He did well. No question. Hopefully they can, you know, keep improving. New York might have something to root for. But let's get over here to the, to the Brown Steelers. So, and Rogers, he shared why Pittsburgh has not been able to unlock the deep, you know, the deep balls down field. he said teams are playing cover two when you're playing cover two there's not going to be a ton of big shots down the field until we get them in one high it's going to be precise passing and short of the sticks if you're playing cover two there's not going to be a lot of shots open down the boundary we've just got to be efficient um i absolutely understand what he's saying i like it the reason i'm i'm good with is because like he's a veteran quarterback He understands what needs to be done, when it needs to be done. And we don't have, it's not like we have a really good offensive line.

We don't, you know, we got an average offensive line to say the best in both, you know, passing and run blocking. So a lot of these teams are playing cover two because they're not worried about the run. So you have to do things that, you know, we do, like the quick game passing, alternative run game instead of, you know, trying to hand the ball off. But if we get to where we're able to now make you get into situations where you got to put that other guy in the box, you can't play cover two. The offensive line starts blocking well. We're able to run the ball well.

That will open up the deep passes that you'll be able to get because now you'll get that single high. You got to get that other guy in a box because now we're running the ball effectively. So I have no problem with the comments. What's your thoughts on? I'm the same way that you are, Deepo. You know how it is. I play DB. And the best way to keep the deep ball from you is playing too high.

If you play cover two, your corners, you make sure you get hands on one. And that dude is getting an inside release so your safety can be able to use, you keep, you keeping the lid on everything. So that makes your corners a little more active. It keeps you light in the run game. But him saying all of this is just football one-on-one and knowing the way you're going to do that is being able to get them positive runs. When they're playing cover two, tote the ball. The line blocks a little more. You start getting them six to tote.

That's two-carriage. That's the first down. They're going to start playing some more cover one. They're going to start dropping that guy down in the box trying to prevent you being able to get six yards of carry, seven yards of carry. We start toting the ball, then that's going to start keeping that safety.

They're going to start shooting down a little bit quicker. And that's going to have a one-on-ones outside, being able to those, when no safety drop, you see one dude in the middle of the field and he's pressed on D-K, now that's when that's an opportunity for a deep ball. Now when you've got a corner back there, you got two safety sitting back there just waiting.

You know what I'm saying? Like, no. When you get that one-on-one look like, all right, bet. Now you can look off the safety and now you know it's him versus him. If D.Ks beat him, he's going to be a touch now. And that's like, that's the looks that you want. So when you don't have defense, cover two, we're going to keep a lid on it.

They're not going deep. There's defense you can call. We're like, no, it's just going to be able to prevent the deep passes. So he's speaking football one-on-one. And the way to change that is, you know, start running the ball, start to toteing it, start being able to get those runs where now they've got to add another person in the box. Yeah, definitely. Tomlin shared what separates Dylan Gabriel from other NFL rookies.

He said he's older, more experienced than most rookies. I think timely, I think timely possessing, I think timely processing. Timely, timely processing. I think his experience and that superpower has to be on display. And I think that was one of the central. reasons why the browns went to him my um i mean i totally understand what he's saying here again you know you got dillon gabriel he's what would he play over 60 games started at uh organ last you know his last year there he completed almost 73 percent of his passes bro 30 tugs

only six interceptions so yeah he's going to process things faster he's going to get it in and out of his hands he doesn't seen it he has a better understanding that of you know and on top of that something else dude he's a dual threat like he can he can take off on you it ain't like you sitting back there with joe flacko you know what I'm saying oh no for sure hey he go be in the pocket I could go on head and I can lose container and everything else he'll catch back up to him you know like no get around you like what uh what do you see in the uh enemy's quarterback because I see you got your your Steelers jersey on there must be the enemy today I don't know I told you Debo you you're

You got, I could do both, you know what I'm saying? Range, Debo, I got range. So back to Dylan Gabriel. I'm understanding completely what Coach Tomlin is saying. I think it's like, like, from what I've seen with Dylan, he protects the football, being able to, he says timely processing is his superpower. So making quick decisions, being able to, you know what I'm saying, get back, once you hit that back step, being able to let the ball go. And being able to make good decisions, he doesn't throw interceptions. And if nothing is there, he'd be able to use his legs.

So I understand what Coach T is saying. He doesn't turn the ball over and he's quick to make decisions. He played a lot of football when he was in college too. So from the first game that I saw him play when he did in Minnesota, his first start, a lot of the same things. Quick the process, we're able to get the ball eyes hands fast, but I just need him to make some of those deeper throws. So not bad, but still some of the things that Coach Tomlissan is exactly the same things. And what we saw and why he's still going to be able to beat a quarterback for the next, like, in that couple of weeks. Yeah, quarterback.

Speaking of quarterbacks, they are actually the Browns. I don't know if I want to say y'all or they. When this, when it's the, when you say the Browns, you can still say y'all. Y'all, okay. I ain't going to be saying no we. I'm going to say us then. Okay. Okay.

So y'all are actually paying eight quarterbacks. Four of them are on the team, but only two of them are active. One is on practice squad. And your boy, Kevin Stefanski said he don't know who the backup is. I mean, I'm doing the math right now. The backup, listen, I was trying not to. Hey, Devo, you were trying to do the back. Listen, listen, listen.

I was trying not to, like, give any, like, oh, y'all trying to, you know, fuck over the door or all this other stuff. I was trying to, like, trying to keep it even. But this right here, you're telling me your head coach. don't know who his backup is, and he only got two of them on the active roster. Huh? This, bro, Debo, I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to go ahead and get to it. We only are, all right, no, bump it.

It ain't no way he wanted this man on his team, bro. That's the most bad. I don't know who my backup quarterback is. You only got two of them. You just traded the one that was supposed to be two. Right now? So the one is three, got to be two. I can't.

What are you talking about? You know what, Debo? They're talking about Zappy. they're talking about they're disrespecting right now in the level that our practice squad quarterback

so you're telling me you go bring him up for practice squad make him too in front of your door listen Debo I'm not telling you

what I'm going to do it this one this is what I'm trying to tell you right now and this is where I'm ready to go can you hear me hey listen man

can you hear me why ain't y'all just trade him to Cincinnati since no no no you traded you You traded Flacco over there

And he was your two And you still don't know Who your two is now hell You could... Debo What I'm trying to... No, this is what I'm trying to tell you You need to let me tell you something

This right here Is straight disrespectful Why I'm saying this is I don't give a damn Shador was your fifth round pick After you pick Dylan Gabriel I understand all of this

This is just Your fifth round pick Joe Flacco starts Dylan Gabriel's second Shador's third Zappi didn't even make your active roster he couldn't even make your team so just mathematically

you don't disrespect your fifth round pick like this Joe Flacco gets his opportunity the second round pick the third round pick Dylan now he gets the opportunity he's the starter now you got rid of Flacco boom Chador is number two if you don't make Shador you're number two

now you're being very disrespectful I have to ask you, why is he not your number two? Yes. Because now you're trying to throw in Zappi. He couldn't even make your active roster. You had three quarterbacks to start the season, just the way it goes. One is gone, then the other one comes up. Then he's gone, and now he moves up.

Hey, hey, hey, listen, hold on, hold on. What does this go do to the locker room for guys who are in support of Shador? But anybody's in support. And you go out there and you say you don't know who your backup number two quarterback is. I'm looking at you as a head coach It's like this is the dumbest motherfucker in the world It's the most disrespectful motherfucker in the world

How do you do this? Like end of the day I understand If you don't like your door If you do like him If you don't like him, if you don't like them As a football team He don't like him for sure You can't convince me

And nothing else right now No for sure He definitely don't like him He definitely don't like him He definitely don't like him And I don't even like to get like this because it's really supposed to be you are football is the only sport

where you're going to get your opportunity because it's how good you are and when you play and then like it doesn't matter about nothing don't matter about your color don't matter about nothing as if you perform you can play so right now with Dylan is on

you drafted this man you had petting whatever like he should be back up to get his opportunity your head coach creating more drama you're creating shit two quarterbacks on your team all you had to do was say yes

Shador is the backup. You went out of your way to say you don't know. Yes. You're going out of your way. Deepo. He's going out of his way to create something. And then at the same time, like, then they were protecting him.

When he was the third-stron quarterback, don't have him available to speak to the media. He doesn't want to talk to the media. He has nothing to say to the media because he knows that he's not going to play. So he's going to chill and do what he got to do. Y'all keep making them available, letting him be available, is y'all handled it wrong. y'all don't want your door to be there so let him go zero let him go let him go

i'm good i'm good i'm good on that because yeah they just they're doing my dog they're doing they're doing him wrong as a football player as a drag pick for the browns i would feel disrespected mm-hmm for sure for sure like and as the locker room i'm like yo i was trying to be even killed with it but yo they really do not like this cat man I really don't like him. And they just got rid of my good man, Greg Newsom, too. It makes no sense. He's falling this year, having a great year,

one of the best locker room dudes ever and just got rid of him. I don't get it. I don't get it. Hey, Bruce, you know, you know, B.A., Bruce Ariens. He was a coordinator for us head coach in Arizona. He said, I don't know how you keeping this job this long. Like, how do you, at the third. that how I don't you're the owner oh that's that shit you was talking about in

Cleveland how they don't know what the hell they're doing period is that what you was talking about I mean right now with this in the way of this looking is I don't know what to say like they don't they they obviously don't know what they're doing like from this it's just it's just all bad moves and bad business is the way you treat people I mean at the end of day too you you are you the Steelers they do a better job Like, Kenny Pickett. They picked a first round draft pick. They knew they messed up.

They were able to move on. They're grown. They can make decisions and move on and be able to take accountability. You got to be able to take accountability when you make a bad move and move on and grow up and then make better moves moving forward. Like, move like a business. Don't do that. Like, this is just crazy. Well, hey, listen, at least the Bengals think that, you know, they got a better chance that, you know, we'll hope this season when they got flacko.

You know, do you think, what do you think they, you think they got a better chance with Flacco in there? I mean, they don't, I mean, he's going to throw the ball. He's going to, Jemar Chase's going to have some numbers. T. Higgins going to have his opportunities. Flacko's a vet. I mean, he's going to have those receivers that he's, I mean, he's going to give them a chance that he's going to throw it up. So, I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't believe in the Bengals. I don't think the Bengals are going to be doing too much better.

I think Flacco is going to make them serviceable, but I don't see. than winning too many more games than they would have with Browning. Well, it says gives the team hope. Hope for this season. Oh. There's more hope than they had with the other cat. I think, you know, they're definitely going to have a better chance, you know, with Joe. If the defense is able to play as well as they did against the Lions,

but again, they're still, what, a 30th ranked. defense right now they're giving up a lot they actually had some you know they had some good stuff but at the same time um they're they're getting they're giving up sacks too um the offense is dead last flaco is not going to help you with anything on the rush like he's going to be sitting back there in the pocket you know uh just you know they'll get you know scramble yards do more than like 170 yards game but who knows he's you're going to get more sacks That's no question because he will be sitting right there in the pocket. You ain't got to worry about him running nowhere.

You're going to know where he gets on time. He gets his timing good and everything is, yeah, it's going to look different. It got to look better than what they had. Yeah. It got to look better than what they. Unless he go and do what he did with Cleveland with all them picks, I don't know. It might look something like the same. That's what I'm trying to say.

I'm not knocking flag. I love Joe. I mean, Joe Flack is a good man. But it's talking, we're talking, it's a performance-based sport. And it's the NFL. It's the best of the best. Like, they, they're getting, you're getting played to play a game. So at the end of the day, now while I'm on the side, I understand why you're going to be

able to get graded accordingly. You know what I'm saying? The eye and the sky, I don't lie. If you're doing, if you're just throwing picks up in the air and miscommunications over there, you haven't been in that situation. So hopefully you can learn the offense a little faster because you've been in the league for a while. But I remember. remember when you were in Cleveland and when we got you up out of there and I was asking

for them to get you up out of there. I know it could be a change of scenery, but you're going in year 19, year 18. Like, I'm, I mean, I don't know. I just don't think it could be too much of a like jolt of energy. You know what I'm saying? That's your flakos going to throw to the Bengals to make them do too much better. Hope, understandably. Hope.

We all got hope. We all got hope. Hope, faith, and charity. Hope, faith, and charity. Man, Michael Everyone went off on a podcast. for them saying that Dionne Sanders couldn't cover the current NFL receivers, man. Listen to this.

The receivers from back then. Might not be prime, though. These guys that he played against, weren't that fast, bro. They were stronger, but they want that fast. These guys, no. I would love to see him, I would have loved to see him play against Chad and his prime.

I would have loved to see him play against Justin Jefferson right now and the day. You know, all these different guys, I would love to see him cover Tyree. If Prime is who we think he's, Are you shitting me? We are the two most accomplished receivers in the history of this game. When you're talking about the most important things, championships and your stupid ass talking about running fast, like people weren't running fast back then, are you shitting me?

What the hell are you talking about? I don't even know your name. Dude. Hey, man. What you think, Devo? I am right there with him. It is more players back then that could play now and have greater success than it is players right now that could play back then. Because you had to worry about getting your head took off.

You could bang a receiver every play. It wasn't about, oh, he's not by the ball, all that. You run your route and the play is about to be dead and over. Don't be surprised that safety come down and just block you anyway. They give you two more steps. What are you talking about? They give you two more steps. Dude.

Yes. It was a whole two steps back then. We only had one. The receivers would not last back then. Like you, the receivers back then coming to now? Man, you can't touch him. You can't do none of that. And you got guys back then who were getting beat up all the way up the field still

breaking loose and getting catches. Now you touch a dude after five yards and diggo at first down. What are you talking about? Don't nobody even know who this goofball is anyway. Like, anybody can say anything that they want to. Dude is out of his rabbit-ass mind, just running his mouth for clout and bullshit, dude. I don't even, that is crazy for that to even be. be said. Like, the game is way too physical back then, probably for half of these receivers now

to even play it in. Did? I mean, so I'm, that what 1,000 percent, Dion Sanders would do whatever he wants to do. His speed, his knowing with the ball, knowing the game, his ball skills. Dionne Sanders, in my opinion, was the best cornerback player I've ever seen in my life. And that is just off the strength of just the swag the way he was able to play the ball and picks. Like you're going to be so disrespectful to say one of the greatest to ever play the position

couldn't play into huh? No. They need to cancel your podcast for that, bro. Prime time Dion Sanders and that's when they was literally like he was being able to put hands in like they were playing real ball. That's why I respect them OGs too because you can put your hands on the receivers

and the receivers too. I respect them even more because you was getting beat up for real so like you being able to get through this being able to know i'm running this slant i got him grabbing on my arm i'm about to get fumbled upside my head catching it and still coming through there and lasting no no alligator arms no nothing it's it was a guard it was it was just gangsters out there playing and i think with dion's speed the way they you can't watch the tape and no dion dion's running four two dion's catching these picks he's talking about what did you know how fast he was like you can't have no clue about what you're talking about you have no idea like you need

like if you got anybody that's following you right now watching your show they need to unsubscribe because if i see they following you i'm going to consider them just as stupid as you if not more saying that dion couldn't he said that dion wouldn't be able to cover these NFL receivers that is ridiculous. Debo. Dion Sanders that played professional baseball that ran around

Two way professional ran around the Florida State like at the Combine ran through the joint and left knew he was getting drafted like all the chains for the joint everybody trying to play.

Dion already knew what time it was. He had swag before swag and then went and got picks and won Super Bowls changed franchises. This is a. my house in Atlanta, go back there and run picks, six-back and talk to people crazy. Like, Jerry Rice, talk to him crazy.

Michael Irman talking to him crazy. Like, real Hall of Famers, real goat jacket guys. You know what I'm saying? Like, I understand Jamar Chase, definitely. But at the same, he would have to deal with Prime. You know what I'm saying? No question. Wrong.

Like, everybody would have to deal with Prime the same way. Dude, the safeties back then, stop playing, man. It ain't no, oh, if I don't catch the ball, they can't. No, you go get hit. The ball will be three yards away and you're going to get Maliwax. Regardless. See if you come back out for the next play. That's crazy.

You're going to be running across that middle, like you said, with them alligator arms, not reaching for nothing, all of that. That's not. That's one thing I will never, ever, ever, ever do is disrespect, the OGs. You can't. You can't. That's my big thing, dude. like you can't never the biggest uh i ain't gonna say

honor it was an honor like like the biggest thing that i ever got told to me was by the old school players like uh joe green you know what i saying mean jo um lambert like guys like that they were like yo you could have played with us back then like as a linebacker to here that's what them say that to you? Like, I'm like, oh, yeah, for sure. The best thing you can ask for is just the recognition of the OG, the people that came

before you that you wanted to just show them that you're trying to hold it down, do it the right way, you know what I'm saying, and like, recognition, like, approval. Like, yes, man, I'm out here working, try and get it. That's why I love OGs that always come back and look out and you always going to respect the OGs, always. Dude, no question, though. Like, it was a thing. I had something, Deepa, I wanted to.

to ask you two, man, I wanted to tell you, actually. I've seen this best four linebacker joint from my man. He posted it of all time. And they had Ray Lewis, Brian Erlacker, you, and one other dude. It was four of them, bro. How they ain't got Lawrence Taylor on there? It was LT, LT, LT, obviously, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. And LT, it was four.

It was LT, Ray Lewis, Brian Erlacker, and you. That was the joint that my man posted from D.C. I got it and it was I was like this that's real love right there oh no question real love I had to let you know that Deepa I saw it yesterday and I was like I'm a screenshot I'm going to send it to you but everybody

crazy love LT Ray Lewis but when they put my good man my co-host my good man Debo I just want to let you know I appreciate you Debo we see you OG whoever put that up we're going to go on ahead and put you on the screen we're going to go on here get you some more whatever it is

But we love that. That's a good idea. Dude, speaking of recognition, I guess this is not the kind of recognition you won't. Chris Jones, he admitted his mistake, I guess, letting up on the touchdown. Yeah. You ever been in a situation like that where you was like, yo, I stopped, but I, then I restart it, but you ever, you ever, you ever, I. I know I've done it. I've done it once.

And from that point forward, I'm like, yo, if I feel like I have any chance of getting there, like, I got to keep running because you play it back in your head and you're like, dang, if I did that, especially when you lose, like, it could have won us the game. Everybody has a situation like that, but I don't, I've never had a situation like to that extreme where I stop. I may, like, give a little less effort. One time that I did, like, it was like, yeah, I gave the job. and if I hadn't, I know for sure I could have got there. What's your take on guys that do this

and consistently do it like multiple plays? I mean, the first thing we learned, Debo, was to get to the ball. You know what I'm saying? And then the difference was in the NFL was that everybody has to be touched down. Everybody has to be touched down. So as a cornerback, they always made sure that they taught us, you know what I'm saying? If the receiver catches it goes down, make sure you, make sure you down

and make sure you touch them down. So my biggest thing is always trying to just finish the play. You never's going to happen as a DB. I'm trying to cover when the quarterback falls down. I know it was funny because the defense alignment, you're trying to just go touch the quarterback because you can get the same.

Hey, they're trying to get the fast. They run into that quarterback so fast. I got to get to it. Oh, that's me. That's me. That's a sack. If the quarterback falls and you touch you, that's the easiest sack in the world.

So, like, I'm like, when that went, them boys was trying to steal that. I would never be able to touch somebody on the ground before they would touch them. So my whole thing was I would know, like, get him down. My defensive linemen were always thirsty for those extra, those extra sacks. But, I mean, I don't want to fault him in that. But at the end of the day, like, you would de-lime him to blow, play into the whistle. It's the fourth quarter.

Hopefully, if he is down, you could, like, steal the sack. Make sure, like, make sure the referees blow the whistle. If you didn't hear nothing, like, keep going. I don't know if you heard a whistle or something, but like, he was, he, he stood up to it. It's a, it's a mistake. I know he didn't mean any harm by it, and it hurts more when you lose the game. You could really just win in there, probably tap them down, you know what I'm saying? But when even in the process of him getting back up, it was stop, start, stop, start, stop start.

Brother, he was just looking like, like he was glisting, like, is this play really happening? Or is it blown down? Did he really get up, fall down, get up, fall down? But, yeah, so I think he knew it was a mistake. Get to the, if you don't, if you see, if you see, if you see. him running, hit him. It's still live action. We're still in the game, you know what I'm saying?

Like, referee's going to let you know when the play's over. Oh, yeah, no question about that. Yeah, I think that's a, you know, and I think you add into it the fact that he might have been tired, too, you know what I'm saying, you know, fatigue and make a coward out all of us. On the ball, on the ball, on the ball. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, it's, you know, it's hitting miss, but I respect the fact that he owned

up to it and, you know, it was like, yeah, that's definitely something that shouldn't happen. And as a captain, as a leader, you know, honest guy don't lie, the tape, you're looking at it like just, what are you, you got a person just standing on the tape. Like, that's not a good look. You post the game's going on, sir. Run. You know what I'm saying? If you need one, we'll get you one in there.

I know there's plenty of little, the backup dude, ready to get in the game. Thirsty for, thirsty for action. Like, if you can't run, get out, but you don't want to harm your team. Yeah, yeah. Like if my, you know, if my, if my 50% is still better than the dude behind me fresh 100%, like, why do we even have him on the team? Like, we got to get out of here. We got to get out. We got to evaluate and be able to be like, yo, let me get out of here, get some breath that's the case.

And then pop back in and, you know, two, three plays or whatever. But when it's in that situation, you're at close, you know, you're thinking, oh, man, I got to stand here. I got to, I got to do what I can. But when it turns out looking like that and you could have had a fresh body. in there that was going 100 miles an hour, you know, it makes you, it makes you rethink the situation. So, 100%, you know, agree, understand all that, but at least he took ownership for it, man. Yeah, no, that's the biggest part, like, just not trying to make excuses for it.

Like, Chris Jones, a grown-ass man. Yeah, like saying, I don't know who my backup quarterback is, you know, like, and you only got two of them on the damn team. I don't know. Y'all over there, y'all messed up over there, man. Speaking of that, the Rams linebacker, Jerry Verst stated that he'd be fucking furious if Lamar Jackson isn't playing on Sunday. He said that Lamar was on his sack list with Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. You know, I think, what do you think when guys saying things like this?

You are a linebacker, so you're sacking the quarterback. What do you think about this? Me? Yes. now so here again i don't want to give bulletin board material okay okay the reason i like it and dislike it i dislike it because you just gave bulletin board material of personally getting a sack on lamar jackson patrick mohomes and josh allen now what you also did is said i'ma whopped the lines of the Ravens, the Bills, and the Chiefs.

So now you just told all three of these people that, yo, I'm putting these on my sacklist, so I got to play them. It don't matter who the hell is in front of me and to hell with all that. So you just gave Bulletin Board material. Now, in the fact of if you put it like this, I had, actually I did an interview. I don't know if we could play, but I did an interview with Bill Cowher. and they were asking a question like if you saw, I believe it was, Terrell Suggs, broke down on the side of the road coming into the game on Sunday, would you pick him up? And I said, yes, I would pick him up. The reason I would pick him up is because I want their team at full strength.

So there's no excuses why you lost this game. You weren't missing anybody. Nobody was hurt and everybody was there, healthy on time, prepared. Now, that is an answer that I would love to hear and go for, of course, because I gave it, you know. But the reasoning is because I want you at full strength, so there's no excuse on why you lost this game. You weren't missing anyone. The, I'm going to get a sack on these three guys means I'm going to get a sack on these three guys. And I'm going to whoop whoever hell is in front of me, no matter what they do, they ain't going to be able to stop me.

That's why I like it and don't like it. What about you? So I'm more, I don't like offensive players. Defense players, you're going to have to go deal with them. So I like, I like that he's saying because he has a job to do. He's going to be able to, he has to have to go against these tackles and get the job done. Bulletin board material is not something that I like for anybody to do. You know what I'm saying?

There's no kind of, no reason for it, I don't think. You know what I'm saying? I'm not mad at it because end of the day, you're going to have to go out there. You're going to have to perform and you're going to have to stand on what you did. And that's, you saying that isn't going to make my job any more difficult. I'm going to have to go out here and cover these people and do my job. So I just want them to, if you do talk, I just want you to perform. So at the end of the game, when we're watching the tape, what you're talking about,

don't be getting thrown all out the club. Let me see you going to work. You know what I'm saying? Like, be going to work and be on your shit. So then I'm going to be good. You went and got you one. Because being able to go, you want to, we're going to get the best anyway. So saying like bucket list up, he's not knocking them.

He's saying basically he's giving them love. Lamar Jackson's goat, patching my homes, fire. Josh Allen, amazing. Once I do that, that's bucket list. Like, I'm going to do that. Those dudes are the best of the best. And when I get them, I'm geeked about it. So it's in a respectful way, but it's in the same way, like, you got to go do it.

So I'm not against it, but go ball out and just don't be out there looking crazy. Because then when you get to looking crazy, you only get a couple shots to go, like, talking shit. You can go talk about how you going back it up. I mean, if you're backing it up, I'm not mad at you because I'm not the one that's going to be out there talking. I'm going to go in there, give no bulletin board material. I know it's a job that's going to be done. These dudes are going to be trying to whip my tail regardless.

So I'm not going to get her no reason to go in the extra. I'm just going to go out there, handle my business. Step off. Be geeked. And other dudes go about it. They weigh, you know what I'm saying? It's cool. But don't be out here talking and putting me in a position

to be having to do handle your business. And then you out here looking crazy. If you handle the business and you're talking, talking shit, and laying names, let's go. I'm right behind you. Let's rock out. You know what I'm saying? Did you have any team or, or players,

opponents that you look forward to, you know, during your career? So honestly, it was in a bad. I look forward to playing Antonio Brown. Look forward to playing. You got us when I was with, when I was with the Brown. No, you right. You guys.

Say it again. When I was with the Browns, when I was with the Browns, I look forward to playing against the Steelers because Antonio Brown and Big Ben, and Mike T, that was unbelievable. The connection, because we came in together. Me and A.B. came in 2010. I was first, and then he got, he was like fifth round,

went to the Steelers. Him Manuel Sanders came in that joint. And y'all have Mike Wallace, too. So I look forward to playing A.B. Because I knew the Browns, they were putting me out to drive. Joe, you in the first round, you get paid the big bucks. You got A.B. You know what I'm saying?

That's your job. That's your thing. So then it was A.B. I look forward to playing him because I knew he was going to come with the work. I knew I was even going to get put on a sports center, or if I made a play, I was going to be on Sports Center. And then it was A.J. Green, I was always looking forward to playing him, too, because sometimes Andy had thrown me one, but AJ would sometimes give me to work.

But I knew, like, these dudes are capable. If I come out here tripping, I can get embarrassed. You know what I'm saying? Like, they got me man to man versus these dudes out on the island. My mom and kids and family are watching. There's nothing funny about this. My mom and my papa hit everybody. I'm going to hear my daddy, my kids, everybody watching.

So I just know, I'm in this game. playing man-to-man. We're single high. So it can be vertical ball stone. So I need to make sure I'm a lot of the man in the box and worry about that run back then, baby. Come on, man. I was, yeah, they were just, yeah, they'll go over there. So it was really Antonio Brown and Ben mainly and then AJ Green. How about you? You look forward to playing any quarterbacks or like one of the dog, like knew any lines was weak? I look, I look forward to playing everybody. I play mind games with myself, dude. The fact that a team showed up. and they didn't forfeit.

I ain't lying, though. I took a decision. Like, you came here because you thought you had an opportunity to win, to whip my ass, to beat us, to dominate, whatever that process is that you need to come away with that W. I don't, so I'm mind-gaming myself from the beginning that you even showed up. You know, that got to be disrespectful to me. Oh, for sure.

You should have just went on head. Y'all head coach should have been like, yo, we're saying what we're saying. We don't even want to step out there. Let's forfeit this. It's just, man. We don't know how good we are. We don't get nobody hurt. You know what I'm saying?

We don't want to get a quarterback, put to sleep, running back, receive it, whatever it was. Like, so that was the mind game I played with myself. I mean, even as, you know, I started, you know, in my career and, you know, I was all a pro and all that. Each year I came in, and I'm like, I'm hoping and praying that they draft a linebacker, an outside linebacker because now I'm already in my head. Oh, you driving his dude to replace me, huh?

Okay. I got something for you. Like, each year I came in, bro, I'm fighting to make this team. Yeah, I got a contract that's guaranteed. I'm not even thinking about that. I got to make this team. When you're trying to be, and that's that mindset too, D. But when you're a dog and you're really trying to be the best of the best

and the best you can possibly be of anything, nothing else that nobody else really got going on matters, and you kind of in a competition with yourself. I'm going to be the best because I'm going to work harder than everybody I'm going to show you and I'm going to dominate. And there's nothing nobody can really tell you. So when you're disciplined.

You're going to be in place on time. You're going to eat certain things. You're going to act a certain way because you know you got a goal. You know what I'm saying? So that whole mental state, I feel like that I know that you're on. And when certain football,

when players get into that zone and like you know greatness when you see it because, you know, people are trying to really strive to something like they're working on. some of their discipline, they come in and they're dedicated, their focus, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, like each year I would come in and, you know, I'm re-relearning the defense and I do my flashcards and all that. And through that process, you know, everybody like,

yo, bro, you've been here for like six years, what you're doing, bro. I'm like, I'm learning the defense, dude. I need to know what I need to do. So once I got down what it was that I knew I had to do to where I could look at the, hear the call and be like, okay, I got to do this, that, the third, and if something happens, it's a nuance of it of this. Now, I need to know what my end is doing, and then I need to know what my corner is doing. Then I need to know what my safety is doing. I need to know what my inside linebacker is doing. So now I know what this whole half of the line over here is doing. Why? Because if I know what everybody over here is doing, and I have nothing in my area, I know what I can do to better help my teammate, which helps

us which helps the whole team and same thing now from there i'm like all right i want to know what's happening on the other side what that what that corner is doing what that safety is doing you know what i'm saying so that i again if nothing's here i can better help them help myself same thing all right i know my corner he'll be sitting here squatting right here so i could go on head and when i see that little uh-uh that he go do i don't even got a bite on it because i know my corner going to be sitting there, I could go ahead, get back, because I know they're about trying to throw the seven, 15 yards behind me, you know what I'm saying? Like, things like that.

So, yeah, for me, it was, it was a mind game that I was, I was able to play with myself, like, all the way until the end of my career, bro. That's the way to do it, bro. And then I bet when you, when you get into it like that, too, when you start learning your position and not only just your stuff, you start learning everybody else's, you start meeting when your linebacker knows his job and your job and everybody else's that communication is like so effortless y'all looking at something and see it without seeing like like this y'all know what's about to happen all right bet he go here i'm gonna go here

like it's just that soft communication so like it's just it just starts and that's the same thing dude like when you blitzing you know you faking the blitz if i'm sitting up here it's strings it's strings attached right somebody has to be moving who's covering like i'm I can come down. I need my safety back here to play with me. Like, he's rolling down to that curl flat. Now when he see the two, he's like, oh, yeah, it's about to be a real bliss. And now we drop out of there.

Yes. Now we're sitting there and, you know, I'm sitting out here on the two and I'm supposed to be blitzing. But the damn safety then came and sat right behind me because he don't want to play on the listen, dude, if I'm sitting here and you come sit behind me, he know I'm coming. Don't get me up. Behind me for nothing. Get on the string with me, man.

And then come down when you see me take off because you're, giving him an opportunity to read the mail before we even delivered it, dude. Like, they're like, yo, yeah, we got it on tracking GPS right here. Yeah, it's coming. They're three blocks down. Like, you're not helping the situation. And that's something else. Like, you got younger guys.

That's why when you get older guys, groups like we had, you know, from like 2007 to 12, six, five, whatever it is, like you got a group of dudes that's been with each other for a while so they don't know and understand every concept of this defense and what needs to be done to make the defense better, to make each player better. If you go out there and, you know, I'm doing my job well, but my corner is doing his job even better. And my D-Line is doing it. It's going to make me look as if I am doing far better

than what I may actually be doing, which will help you get some money down the line. If you're a person that's there and your D-Line is rushing the passer like crazy, and he has to throw that rock and you're a D-B, He got to get rid of it. Now you're getting more picks because he slinging, he ducking, he gunning and ducking. Like, easy work. You're not out there covering for six seconds.

Right. Now, if I got, if I got, you know, my D.Bs, I got you all out there and y'all covering, like, you know, flies on shit. I get more time to get to the quarterback. Thousand percent. We all work together. Yeah. So, listen, before we get out of here, we got to thank you guys for joining. Yes.

Evo and Joe, okay? Again, make sure you guys like and subscribe, but we're going to be back here on Monday and somebody is playing on Sunday. We plan against y'all bum asses. Who are you rooting for, Joe? Huh? Who I'm moving for? Why you make like you can't hear every time I ask you this?

Huh? Huh? I told you what I'm doing. I'm rooting for a good game. I hope Dylan Gabriel goes out there. I want to see what you're going to do, man. Let's see. You want to see what he going to do or you want him to do a certain thing.

I can tell you what I want Aaron Rogers to do. I can tell you what I want the defense. I can tell you what I want the offense to do. I want him to come out there, run the ball down Cleveland's motherfucking throat, and Aaron Rogers pass for another 300, come away from that game with 600 yards. Defense go out there, get 10 sacks, three picks, two touchdowns, and they don't get nothing but. Three yards.

That's what I want. What you want, Joe? I don't want that. I want it to be probably, let's say, I want two great defensive games, you know, offense both played, you know what I'm saying, pretty well, you know, and, you know, both teams lead a stadium, you know what I'm saying, pretty well, you know, and, you know, both teams lead a stadium, you know what I'm saying? feeling like feeling good and feeling like they're moving

in the positive direction that's what I want I know he ain't talking to me who the hell is he talking to he's feeding some I mean he thinks I'm supposed to eat that shit and believe that shit

Hey man I just told you I felt look it's past the time man Yeah yeah Hey listen man Y'all come back here Monday

Okay Joe go be here Let's see what Joe wearing on Monday Because I promise you, if you come in some Cleveland gear and by the grace of God, some way, they don't pray it hard enough to get through to the Lord and they don't give them a W.

If you come in here laughing and gloating and smiling and have some Cleveland stuff on, I'm going. I'm a snack. I'm coming right there to VA. Hey, man, listen, y'all come live, man. Catch me in Debo, man. Make sure y'all like, Subscribe. Catch us on Monday so you can see. You know what I'm saying? How Debo feels after the game.

I know how I'm going to feel. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to, I'm going to feel like either, I'm going to feel like my two teams play and I'm going to know if one is going to, if it's going really, really good or really, really bad. That's what I'm going to know. Listen, man, y'all come back here Monday for this Stiller W. And we out. This is an I-Heart podcast.