Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - Mike McCarthy to the Steelers? Baker FIRES OFF at Stefanski, CJ Stroud goes VIRAL

Episode Date: January 23, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to reports that former Cowboys and Packers head coach Mike McCarthy is a serious contender for the Pittsburgh Steelers job, Baker Mayfield taking shots at Kevin Stefanski, CJ Stroud's comments at his end of the season interview, previewing the NFL Conference Championship Playoff Round, and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline:00:00 - CJ Stroud Blames Texans Defense?11:59 - Baker Mayfield calls out Kevin Stefanski19:30 - Steelers to interview Mike McCarthy31:30 - Patriots-Broncos Preview41:30 - Rams x Seahawks Preview53:00 - Philip Rivers interviews for Bills job (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you like and subscribe and download wherever you get your podcast. Joe, how are you doing today? Brother Debo, you know it. Another day, another day, another dollar. Another day we wake up, get to talk, get to chop it up about these sports, about my good

man's what's going on. We got some good football. We got my young man CJ. It's crazy. Yeah, I don't know. I see what we're starting to show off with CJ. And that's my good young man. So this is where now when we're on the show and now start feeling uncomfortable because we

got to talk about what we said. You know what I'm saying? Hey, let's go ahead and play. Let the people hear what was said, Joe. Go ahead, man. I think just the turnovers, you know, like, I haven't really been prone to turnovers in my career, especially, like, you know, the timely turnovers, you know,

where, you know, like I told you all before, I've really, you know, been on, I've been on some great teams during my whole career where a lot of them were, you know, offensive droving, you know, and like, you know, playing for Coach Day where, you know, we're taking shots. And then, you know, like, being on this team, you know, where, you know, we're more full everywhere, you know, where it's offense, defense, and special teams, well, you know, defenses, you know, is making a bunch of plays.

So, you know, this year was a step for me where, like, I didn't have to be Superman all the time. And I'm still growing in that. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I appreciate my team that should take a lot of pressure, you know, off of my plate. But also, you know, they do know that I can make those plays. So, Joe, Joe, hey. So he ain't got to be Superman, like he said. You know, it's easier.

At least that's what I'm getting for. Joe, make this message for me. You tell, no, you give me what you say, what you feel from this first, Debo. Please. All right, Joe. So you go ahead. What this is telling me is that he don't need to go be Superman, as he said. but I feel like he feel like maybe he need to go be Superman.

Maybe, you know, because like he said, you know, maybe it's because the defense playing too good. This is why he's having his issues, man. My chair keeps sinking. I have to get a new one. This is why he, you know, that might be, you know, why he's having his issues. And you look at it and you go back and it makes you think of when he said,

you know, I'm not as quick as I used to be compared. to where I was when I was in high school when he was watching his high school tape and, you know, he was lighter and fat. I talked to him about that one. I told you that he was being sarcastic on that. So, you know, maybe that's the issue why, but he has to understand, too, you're in high school.

You're not playing against the NFL caliber. So with that said, you know, he came back and said he was joking, but the fact is, you know, it's actually a little bit of truth in every joke. You know what I'm saying? So I think he, you know, he's believing or feeling at least. And once you start to fill it and you start to believe it, you know, what you focus on is what grows.

Yeah. You know, expect it. Expect the worst and you'll find it. You know what I'm saying? Wherever it is. So I think right now that's a lot of it. And he's just so far into his head right now that. he can't kind of get out of his way.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yes. Okay. So I'm going to come from the perspective of, like I always been telling you, I love C.J. Stroud. I think he's a great person, great kid. But when you don't play well, you know what I'm saying? You got to, like, be able to kind of own up to it.

So just saying, like, the defense did good. And you were, when you don't play well, you got to stand up on that and take it. You're professional quarterback. And that's just, if you don't do good, you don't do good. You're trying to, like, point out. other things and make a little bit of excuses for it. You don't have to do that, C.J. You know what I'm saying?

We know what you got. We know what you got. And you, we know what when you do play well, you know what I'm saying? Stand on it. That's what you're supposed to do. That's how you play your rookie season, amazing. And you started coming down and not playing as well. I think those last two games when he lost all those fumbles versus still,

that was a very bad game. Then when he played against the, um, the last one when he had those four picks in the first half versus the New England Patriots. That was a very bad game. So when you end the season, bad like that, you got to kind of stand on it. I know when you want to kind of like don't want people to forget the good times, the good old days, like what you were doing, like how you made these plays. But that's not the time. Your agent, the offseason, you're going to figure that out.

But at that very moment, you got to stand on, I got to do better. Not our defense is doing so good. And I'm just trying to. They know I can make these plays. This is not the time for us to talk about the good old days. You know what I'm saying? And just take it on the chin. You know what I'm saying?

You have to play better because the defense is doing their thing. They balled out. Like now it's a team game. So you're saying you used to be able to throw it deep. Right now you're asking for checkdowns. Don't throw interceptions. Don't put them in positions to lose the game. Like you normally, like when you have a solid team, it's offense does well,

defense is doing anything and special teams. Right? In these two games, you are hurting your team. You know what I'm saying? So this is nowhere for you to be like, Stanley, you just had two bad games. It's going to be good. good, you're going to move on, but

blaming, like, just say, like, it's just, I just don't want to, that's just not a place for my man. You don't need to talk about that there. That's just not a good time, not the right place. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like you said, this rookie year, dude, he had a good year. Oh, he had a good rookie year. He's amazing. In the second year,

everybody, well, not everybody, a lot of people have a slump. And I think the reason why a lot of people have that slump is, now I know what it is that you do well, don't do well, it's not your rookie year anymore. I have time, I have a year of tape to look at what you do well, what you don't do well, and prepare for you now. He's looking at that, and that's the reason he went back earlier in the year and was like, yo, what did I do better

that I was doing, you know, in previous years? And I'm not going back as far as my high school because that's just, that's wow. But you look at, you know, this year, he was set 52 times compared to his rookie year was 38. Well, he was using his legs to get out of it. He was quicker, faster. So now he's looking back at tape. And he's like, oh, that's what it is. I was quicker. I was faster. I felt like I was more athletic. So now he really getting into his head about how it is that, you know, he think he's performing or need to perform. Like, you got the same offensive line. So that's the only, well, as far as how well they played, you know, and he's looking back and he's like, okay, I was able to get out. How was I

doing it in high school? How was I doing in college or whatever that may be? As far back as as college, as far as back of high school, like I said, it's crazy to me. But that's what he's looking at. And right now, he's really in his head. So now it's like, okay, what else is, well, I was asked to do a lot more. Maybe, no, what are we talking about? That's like me telling you, Joe, hey, Joe, you ain't got, listen, all I need you to do, Joe, is not get beat deep and tackle the catch. I don't need to break nothing up. Uh-huh. And to say nothing. Huh? And that's it. Well, yes. I need to do is hold the ball in front of you. Keep the quarterback in the pocket. Yes.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So I hear CJ, and I know he's a baller, so I'm just knowing right now moving forward next year, it's time to go. You got to go ball. And I hear what you're saying, and just don't turn the ball over. Do what you do normally. If the big play is there, make it. If the big play's not there, check it down.

You know what I'm saying? Like, be who you are, do what you do, and I know you got the ability. So that's just when he's making those comments, I just don't want people to be. able to shoot shots at him because I know he's a good kid. I know he means well. And he's not trying to say, he's like, I just don't want you all to forget the stuff here. I'm like, DJ, lead that for us, lead that for me to say, you're a baller.

You know what I'm saying? You certain things that you had bad games. We're going to stand it out. You can't turn the ball over like that and have this type of defense. You could easily, I think you could easily want. So you're going to take that one on the chin and next season, just don't do that. Team balls out and you're going to be still successful. I don't, you know what I'm saying?

I think with his contracts up too, like, figuring out with Houston. You know what I'm saying? Are they going to extend him? Are they going to wait a year? Because his agent is amazing. I know he's going to go get that. Hey, that's what it's coming down to.

Are you on that last leg right now? That's, this is a prudent. Your play has been declining. And then in the last two weeks of the season, the defense has been the only thing that has been, well, the last week, well, before last week, before that, the only thing that was saving you was the defense. So now he's like, oh, man, you know,

his contract time. That's coming. So, he's trying to, you know, he's trying to, you know, trying to kind of push away some of the negativity like you said. And, hey, but I did this, you know, I understand that. Yes, let us in your agent. Let us in your agent do that. So you got a whole, you got a whole other year, you know, because they're not going to let you go. They ain't going to do nothing goofy like that to go ahead and show what it is that you can do.

But I just don't like the approach of giving excuses like, yo, I play bad. Yeah, just stand on that because I know you, you're a pro. You're going to get what you. We know the GMs and us, we don't forget the good also. You know what I'm saying? It's not like we just forget everything when you do do this, but it's not for you now to bring that stuff up when this just happened. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. You know Derek Lewis, the UFC fighter? Yeah. He had his own opinion of what he think he think we're on. Listen to the. What moves would you like to see the Texans make for next season? Yes, we've got to see what's going on with CJ. I think ever since we've seen.

him sure with Amber Rose at the softball game a few years ago. And Kim Kardashian and all that. And I'm like, man, it might be like a curseful. Nope. No. No. I'm not letting them do that because I, no, nope. Hey, I'm with you, man.

Because my thing is this, like, I don't know about the Kim Kardashian thing, but I think the Amber Rose thing, I think he just gave her a ride back to her hotel because her people left off or something. Yes, yes, yes. And Kim Kardashian, they was just in a, you know, you know, what was it, Super Bowl or something like that? Everybody just happened to be, it wasn't even hers.

You know, it was just like a, somebody else had something that was everybody, you know, flowing through it. I'm not letting people do that, man. Yeah, I ain't going to do that. Like, like, Kardashian? Like, that's way worse than way. That's crazy. I mean, that's like life changing.

Like, it's over with, you know what I'm saying? Like that type of thing. No, bro. No, he ain't, he ain't rock. They're at that level, you know what I'm saying? Man, them people, they don't like. They're good people, man. I know, Chloe, because she was going with,

with Dayton, Tristan. And you know what I'm saying? Homies, good people, bro. So I don't like that. Things happen. And I think the Amber Rose joint, like you said, he was being a good Samaritan. Being a good guy. Being a good guy.

You know what I'm saying? And like, yeah, no. No, no, I'm not going to just, I'm not, not on Debo and Joe. We're not going to push that, the curse joint. No, no, I can't do it curse, man. When it comes down to it, you play better on the field. None of this even come up. Well, 1,000 percent.

You don't throw four picks. And then we good. Yeah, for sure. Becker Mayfield, let's go on over here. He called out Stefansky, your boy. Yeah, man. He said, can't wait to see him twice a year. He said,

Felt is quite the reach, pal, still waiting on the call, text from him after I was shipped off like a piece of garbage. Can't wait to see you twice a year, coach. Oh. And I guess... Hell of how you feel, babe. Yeah, I guess Joe defended him.

But, hey, how... Obviously, this is your dude, you know, Stefansky. See, there you go. No, I'm just saying. Yeah, okay. I mean, I'm at Baker. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

Baker. Y'all did win the playoff game with me. You know what I like baby. Right, right, right. What do you think of this comment? And he's saying the coach didn't text and calling whatever that beat may be. Like, sometimes that just, that just don't happen. I don't know what their talk was or agreement was.

Like, you got released, Joe. Who told you or who talked to you when you were released? Oh, see, that's what I'm saying. When I did it, the head coach, Hugh Jackson didn't know, D-Coronator didn't know. They called me, though, the GM, and they brought me in. You know what I'm saying? And I talked to them. We started, they let me know I was released.

So they didn't know. But I went and saw the coaches and they were trying to figure it out. But, yeah. So I met, I saw the coaches. I saw everybody. I saw the GM. I walked through the thing and they called me in. And it was a sad day.

But I'm saying for Baker, I could. that I don't know how the coach. I would expect that if he has a good relationship with the coach, that he would have definitely got in touch with him and tried to figure it out. But that's where I'm saying where sometimes who's running it, who's making decision? The GM released me without Hugh Jackson being aware.

So I was just getting cut and he was kind of like, oh. But you talk to Hugh, right? Yeah, but then I went in there and talked to Hugh, and then they was talking about trying to figure something out. But the GM was like, no, the decision was made. They made the decision I wasn't willing to take a pay cut. and you're out. You know what I'm saying?

So that was like, hey, coach, what you're going to tell me? Joe's not taking a pay cut. We're letting him go. You know what I'm saying? So that's where I'm like, with Baker and his relationship with the coach, what was Tafansky saying to him? Were they saying that he's going to try to keep him? I don't know those details.

Baker knows those details between him and Sopansky. So when he says things like this, it's hard for me to step in and be like, yeah, I mean, if you just got cut, throwing out like no trash, and the coach didn't even holl at you. Like, you felt bad. It was like, oh, no, Joe, like, what's going on? So we were really talking, I seen him. So Baker could still be like, did you not say nothing to him? Did you not know what was going on?

And he's like, shit, Safansky just went like the buddy on a, what's the show? When he slide into the bushes. You know what I'm saying? That's what Savansky might have did on Baker. You know about Homer Simpson? Homer Simpson, yeah, Syfansky and I slid on the bushes on him. And Baker like, yo, where are you at? You ain't going to give me no heads up, no nothing.

So I could see why he would say that. But then he's saying, like, joke. No call, no text. No call no text, no nothing. But then Joe saying that the phone lines work both ways, I think he's saying you could have hit coach up. But if I'm Baker, I'm like, I'm the player. You're in the position of power.

You letting me, you chopping me, and you're not going to holl at me. Like, I don't have the balls in your court. I want to be here. You know what everybody gets released a different way. And I understand what you're saying there because different people tell you, you know, you're released, whatever. Like, when you got released from up or you didn't get resigned to Pittsburgh, Like, it was probably...

Boy, I didn't get re-signed for the Pittsburgh. It was like, it was the agents talking to him. And then it was, once your contract is up, your contract is up. Like, you just gracefully, like, once exit meetings, I'm in the locker room during exit meetings. I'm crying. I didn't even go to the exit meeting for the Steelers because I knew it was over. We've been talking about trying to get the contract, seeing what was up.

And then after the exit meeting, I'm like, oh, it's really done. So I didn't even walk up there to the exit meeting. I just packed my junk, had my little bag. and left. I'm like, I know it's a rap. You know what I'm saying? So that's how that went down. Yeah. Yeah, that usually, that's usually how to happen. Like, even when tell, when I got released, I think I heard from Kevin or my agent or whatever it was and what they had coach. Like, that's not, you know, things are done in different ways. Like when I would get released, when I got released, when Cowher was there, hell, well, once it was coward. Like, actually twice, it was coward. And then

The other two, I think, were, the last one I think was, was covert again. Like, the funny thing is, like, the first time I got released. So you know how you going there and, you know, you sit down with the coach and they say, you know, whatever. Well, you ain't never been there because you was the first rounder. But anyway, I'm going to tell you how I go, Joe. Okay, let me know how I go. So you go in there, they sit down, you know, I'm becoming like one of the, you know, the last cuts. And I'm like, okay, you know, sit down.

He's like, all right, so, you know, we're going to release you and, you know, et cetera, et cetera, all this stuff. I'm like, all right, cool. And I, you know, I just get up to walk out and leave. And he's like, you ain't got no questions. I'm like, no, you know, I ain't got no questions. He's like, well, I'm like, I really don't have no questions. And I said, I'm like, anything that I say is not going to change your opinion. so I don't have nothing to say.

I don't have nothing to tell you, bro. You know what I'm saying? Is it going to change your mind? Yeah, I'm just going to get up out of here. Yeah. Right? That league is cutthroat, bro. Yeah, I ain't, like I said, I ain't tripping.

So you, Joe talking about, he is a two-way street. No, it ain't, bro, that ain't no two-way street. Boy. He expecting some type of A, you know, obviously they had some type of conversation that he didn't get whatever he thought was supposed to. to be a text call or whatever. Sure. Hell, when I left the Steelers, I had been asking them,

well, when they released me, I got to say out of luck. But when they released me, game one, when we played in Cleveland, I was like, yo, why don't y'all just, you know, release me? It's cool.

I understand the business. I see, you want to play young guys. I ain't tripping. But obviously, they denied me that. All the way up until, um, listen,

here's the wild thing, dude. So, when they release me, I asked them on Friday. I'm like, yo, I'm like, my, y'all ain't go use me. So why don't you just let me stay here? You know what I'm saying?

This Christmas, I can stay here with my family, whatever. Uh-huh. Have a Christmas at the career. He goes, no, no, no, no, I can't do that. I'm going to need you there. I'm like, okay, whatever. The next day, they released me. No call.

It was Kevin or my agent, so it's no call and no text from him after he said Friday. Brough. it be like that deal i'm like okay i'm like okay but then had the nerd to text me um who you go anoint for your game day um your game day activities i don't know if you was there did i ever give you um the game packs i used to make uh no i think so i think so one of the pregame game packs focus concentration you know all that stuff neurotrophics all that had you going right uh-huh and then go text me that the day they cut me like

I said what? That's it. I didn't even text to ask you for the goodie bag. Right, right. No. Oh, no. Every Lenovo is built to

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Are you a boy or girl? Oh, my God. All the time. I know. So I'm always like, hi. I try to butcher it up for kids, you know, so they're not confused. Yeah, but you're butching it up is basically like Doris Day. Right?

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No. Rogers and McCarthy, they go get that? Nope. I'm not. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, no, no. I want something, I want something fresh. I want something fresh. I want something new.

Are we ready? Are we ready for the redo? Are we not? Everybody said it's ready for the redo. Like now since Tomlin's gone, Mike Tomlin's not there. We switched up, Danny Smith's not there. There's no more gum chewing on the side. No, Danny Smith, that's a hurt.

That's a, that's one. That's a hurt. I don't hurt my soul. They should have just signed him, man, and Kathy, man. This deal, because there's special teams and bankroll bars. As long as bankroll bars is there, bankroll bars, kunk, and Danny Smith, just chilling. They haven't done no wrong. So I'm a little sad with that.

But Mike McCarthy just gives me same old, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's been in the league. Like, he's, I'm no disrespect, though. I think he'd be good coach, bring an offensive, bring a good offensive mind. we need an offensive mind. I like that. I like where they're thinking. I like where they're going.

But younger. You know what I'm saying? I like where they're going, but just a little younger. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. I'm with you. I don't see it happening because Aaron is not the future of the organization.

It's not. And, you know, to be real, I'm hoping these shoes doesn't return. Because like you said, dude, this is a rebuild period. I know the Steelers don't want to say that or don't want to believe that or just whatever that may be. So if you don't want to say it because it just sounds bad, but if you actually believe it, that's worse. Because the reality of it is, is that we have to actually rebuild this thing.

Yeah. It's not like, you know, they're saying they had a league source that was like, yeah, well, the coaches will be interviewing Stiller Brass as much as they will be interviewing the coach. And that's true, dude. Like, we are going to have to have, and I call it this, a first or second pick losing season if we want to get a franchise quarterback, okay? And we're going to have to give up everything and whatever else in the world to try and get one that is a proven one right now. And ain't nobody giving up one, dude. And I know Art said, you know, I don't know if this is a rebuild. year, but he also said, I don't like to use that word.

It's telling me, okay, he understands and followed that by we're trying to compete day one if we can. So I think he understands it could be a rebuild. And if that happens, then that's what's going to happen. But he's not, you know, he's hoping for the best. And again, like, it may not be the word they want to put out there. Like, yeah, we're rebuilding. Stiller fans get ready.

especially when they're used to that. Yeah, and there's different ways of being able to rebuild. Like, we have, they got Will Howard, like, we need a franchise quarterback. But going younger, getting rid of some contracts, being able to get draft picks, being able to accumulate talent in that way, and being able to trade off drafts, being able to, if you have a lot of draft picks, being able to trade one to get high, higher in a draft, just doing something, being able to move, being able to have a lot more options when you are going younger. And if you do have a good coach and you have Will Howard, you have young talent that you're drafting that's playing well, you might not do good for a year.

But that second year, you know what I'm saying? You can start really, it doesn't have to be like we're losing for three years straight. No, the first year, young Will Howard with a bunch of young talent trying to figure it out, everybody's getting their bad, getting bruised. But the second year, they're building it up to be able to actually be nice. So I don't think they, the Steelers, the Roonies, they understand like, is going to be. a little down, but not saying like a complete rebuild, like, we're going to be terrible for four years. No, it's going to take a little time.

We get the right head coach. We get the right quarterback. We start these draft picks that we have, the Herbics, the, the Washington's. These dudes are actually balling. And then we do get rid of, say, D.K. McHath, and we get another receiver out here that's a number one that's hooping. You know what I'm saying? So being able to just have their mind open because it's a new coach.

The new dude that's coming in here, he can do what he wants and, bringing a lot of talent the same way like the Patriots were doing. You know what I'm saying? And the Bears. So just being able to know now, starting off with a fresh late, having a good coach, and being ready to move these pieces around and being able to like not be attached to nothing. I understand what you're saying.

But like, we don't even really know what, what's the quarterback that we have now? Will. We don't even know what he could do. But that's what I'm saying. Like we have no, we have no understanding of what it is that he's capable of doing. So, I mean, it could work out. It couldn't work out. But you're talking about having him as the, as one of the quarterbacks and then not having a proven.

And obviously, we're not going to get nothing in the draft right now. So, yeah. I ain't a lot to you. This is what I'm saying. We drafted Will Howard. We still have him. Let's get a man a chance. Do you know what I'm saying?

And even if we're bad this year, we have a backup quarterback Mason Rudolph. Like, we said it's not going to be the best. of year so we're not going to be, we might not be good. We might lose with Will Howard. You know what I'm saying? So if he ends up, we lose this season, when we end up being able to get a high first round pick next season, at the quarterback.

This year may not be. But is there somebody there for next season? I don't know. I think that's something that they got to look at and see, because, again, this would be a reason why I would be like, okay, I want to bring Aaron back. Why? Because it still makes us competitive.

We're not looking for that high, high pick. for this coming year because we don't see it, but maybe we see it the year after. And then the year after that, go ahead and let the roster see what it could do by letting, you know, or proving veteran quarterback go that you know can make you competitive. And for that whole year, you got an opportunity to see what it is that your backups could do that would be, you know, backing up, you know, Aaron or whatever. But I'm giving a whole, a whole lot of time for them on the ones. and I'm just going to be like, yo, Aaron, you coming in.

You could be game time, whatever it may be. But I don't know. That's a lot. That's a lot on the plate. But to go ahead and just say, hey, this is what we're running with, new coach. This is the quarterback you got from there, figure out. And if it ends up getting to that one, that first second pick losing season and the right quarterback is there or whatever it may be, that would be. we definitely 100% need a franchise quarterback.

Yes. We're going to move anywhere on this chart, bro, because we've been having too many just above the, you know, just above the water seasons, making the playoffs, just missing the playoffs, getting in and getting, you know, kicked out in the first round, you know, no losing seasons that make us middle of the pack. I can get what we need because that's all we've been doing,

the spot filling with a quarterback here, picking it up with the defense there. And now we got to the point to where the defense wasn't doing what they was doing. So Aaron Rogers made it happen to where we got to where we got. So I don't, like I said, I'm just, I'm just getting ready, man. We go be a, we got a year or two. This is what I'm saying, though, if Mike McCarthy gets hired and we keep Aaron Rogers, how long, how long is that going to, do you think, how much longer is A.R. going to be there at the quarterback.

I don't, I don't see them hiring McCarthy. I just don't, I don't see that happening. Okay. I think if they were going to do that, they would have did that already. And I think between, I think they're waiting on somebody over there in L.A. That's what I think. I'm thinking, I'm thinking maybe, maybe it's going to be Shula. Yeah.

That's what we saw. Or, that's what we're talking. I'm thinking them three right there. And they got to wait. I think they then had a couple interviews with Flores already. They might be having the second one with Weaver. And the Shula, and Shula, they're like, all right, let's see. Like, they can't talk to until they're done.

So, you know. I like Shula. Yeah, I mean, I'm just, I'm just happy they're not in the rush to grab something. They're really taking the time sitting back, looking at it, monitoring, and making sure, like, you know, whoever we pick, we're looking at this for the last. long term. And that's why I only wanted it to be somebody younger just because, like, younger and good. Like, that's it. I'm not knocking McCarthy. He's a good coach. He's just older. I want somebody that can be there for the next, for the still is 20 years. You know what I'm saying?

That coach to be there and be able to build and you be like, no, like, I'm behind this dude because even if they do have a down year, he's coaching them up. You're just loving the way that everybody's moving, the way the things are going. Even if you lose in the games because, like, you're like, Oh, no, we don't have the roster yet. We're developing it. It's going to get there. Give him two years and we'll be right where he needs to be. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that's where I can rock when I'm just having a younger coach where, yes, just the sky is the limit. And that's why they're taking their time for sure, like you said, but just get a good one because you're going to want to during the down years, it's not like, but just in case, too, they may have to, they might got to fire him. If you don't like the way that it's going really fast, like the way the Patriots were able to do with Mayo, like,

I, if you pick one real quick and we don't work and we're getting spank, you're like, maybe it's just not the vibes. I don't know. Hey, Joe, I got a question for you. I got a question for you. I'm looking at the chat over here, man. And future quarterback, Archie Manning. Oh, and what, see, see, I ain't going to lie to you.

He's, I got, I got, I'm, I don't know. I got to watch more tape because at the beginning of the year, I was like, he didn't look, he did not look that good. So he started playing a lot better. But we got to watch. I got to watch and see. Okay, man. I just can't put all my eggs in the batch.

Hey, the Graggy student. Graggy students at that question. $2 donation, appreciate you. Okay, okay. I'm going to watch more. You're going to watch some of that. I'm going to watch some definitely more take because at the beginning, he was not playing that well.

And then he started playing better. So, like, I just thought like, just off the rip coming out, I thought his freshman year, he was going to be, oh, my goodness, he looks like the number one. But he kind of was a little normal. He showed he was a little normal, so I want to watch and see. I just can't throw out the number one overall, and I don't know. I understand.

I totally understand. But would that be something that considering his whole body were, would that be something that would you think would be like a good move, you know? I mean, if he comes out in space, yes. If yes, yes, yes. Listen, you can't go wrong now. He can't go home with the lineage. He's going to have old Peyton in his ear now.

Come on, man. You know? Captain, Captain. Great tutelage, so I'm not going to knock it. No question. No question, bro. I put on fall too far from the tree. It can't.

It can't. Look at hell, Eli, too. Look, Eli even did. He went on him and whipped on Brady twice. Oh, my little. You know? Little brother. Like, come on.

Grandpa used to run the lead. That's what I'm saying. Hey, listen, that's the bloodline, man. You can't go wrong with the bloodline. That's a beautiful tree. Can't go wrong with the bloodline, man. Playoff football, baby. Play off football this weekend.

Now we're the Patriots and the Broncos. Look here. Sean Payton basically said he guaranteed they go beat the Patriots and go to the Super Bowl this week. Listen to this. You tell me what this said to you. Well, they're going to have plenty of rest after this one. Two weeks.

I can't. This is a team at the line. line of scrimmage that... Hey, Joe. Yo. I think he might have realized what he said and then was like, ooh, I said the quiet part out loud. Uh-huh.

And then got back into his train of thought. Uh-huh. I was trying to. What did you think, Joe? I think he's, but actually, that's what, like you said, he said the quiet part that was going on in his head out loud. He's like, oh, all right, well, now it's out. So then he went back to what he, the regular schedule of programming.

But coach did, yeah, he felt like they're going to win the ship. And they slipped out of his mouth. How'd you let that go, though? How did you, like, that was wild. I think he just got used to just saying stuff out loud because he'd be on, he'd be on Russ so bad. He just, he just got reckless with it. I guess he, like, you ain't even got your quarterback, dude.

Like, you got, what is it, Stadham? Yes, Stanton. So, like, what? But he signed him for two. You got to run the ball. Bro. And you got to do it effectively. They have to.

Just so you could take pressure off of him. Like who do you who do you got who I got on this yeah come on bro come on bro I got the pass I got to take them you got to take the pass I got to and that's exactly what I'm doing too I'm taking the pass like I'm taking the only way they can I don't know how they're going to be able to run the ball effectively but if they're able to that opens up a lot that takes a lot off the um the quarterback now the play action game comes into the effect you know what I'm saying yeah like The quarterback can do what he need to do and manage the game. As long as he don't turn the ball over, that's it. That's a thousand percent. The Broncos, the only way they can win the game, they're going to have to run the ball effectively and that keep that quarterback only having to throw,

keep him ahead of the sticks. Third and shorts, throwing them things of sudden, nothing too crazy, keeping them head of the stick. Because their defense is going to have to be able to score. Oh, he's 100. 100% relying on his defense. The defense is balling, and this is where they can get the Patriots.

Their linemen, them tackles, was getting whooped by my man Hunter, and by Hunter and the other one from Texas last week. So now 15, the dudes from the Broncos, they're going to be able to get after them. Drake May fumbled to joint five times because their tackles are getting horsed, and the Broncos had 57 sacks this year. So scoop and scores, Drake May, watch your back.

You know what I'm saying? saying so Broncos defense, if they can create turnovers and be able to get back, be able to short fields for the quarterback, don't make him have to do too much. And he's had a game, no, Debo. I looked on the stats. I tried to check up on him. I was like, what did he do before? 2022, he threw for 365 yards, three touchdowns versus the San Francisco 49ers in

2022. And it was the number one ranked defense. And they beat him in overtime. So he's done it before. he's done it before in the big game that was last game of the season. So he's played NFL quarterback and this is my thing too.

He don't go to go out there and go crazy. We're not asking him to reinvent the wheel. You know what I'm saying? Run, we want you to depend on your run game and your defense, hopefully they're going to set you up and don't turn it over. Don't be throwing balls that you shouldn't be throwing.

You know what I'm saying? If you're in high sticks, it's third and 13, check down, screen game. They need to help them out with the, I know this coach knows this too. He's not going to help him out with the screen. They're going to have good rushes. Let's give them easy stuff to kind of get them into the game. So nothing to make him lose it. Don't lose it for us. You don't got to go win it,

but just don't go lose it. So there's a chance, but I like the Patriots for sure. I'm with the Patriots. Like I think Drake May and them booty going against, there's going to be one-on-ones. You know what I'm saying? They play a lot of man-to-man. There's going to be booty's going to have to make a play against my man, us or tan. There's going to be one-on-ones. Are you going to make a play or are you not? You know what I'm saying? So I'm going to watch those. You make like they ain't got, they ain't got, my boy, uh, Diggs over there either, though. They got Diggs, too. They got digs too.

Like, come on. But I'm saying, yeah. They 100%. He is 100% relying on the defense, bro. Like, it's no way. He went through his head. He was like, yeah, they didn't turn, like you said, they didn't turn the ball over. They can't hold on to the ball.

They're fumbling the ball. And then we could stop the run. But, but. But. But. But. The defense did not stop their run against Buffalo. And I understand they're number one.

But look at New England at how they've been running that ball the last, I don't know, four, five weeks. Them boys hitting damn that 150 a game, bro. They told him. They told him. They told him. He counting on crowd north thin air. Hey, bro, the thin air, that's real, bro.

No. There is real. It is. It is. I've played up there, I don't know, maybe four times. 50% of the time, bro, no doubt, no lie. I'm telling an honest to God true. I come back, pissing blood, bro.

Bruh, like that air up in there, it does not agree with me. I'm talking, like, dude, I'm Coca-Cola. Like, I guess the protein breakdown, whatever, dude, this stress my body out so bad. Like, my son, my son had to go up there to get, to get surgery. in Vail. Like, and it's higher.

It's higher than Denver. I didn't know that. I found out, though. 15 times, 20 times in one night, bro. I was literally waking up like, just trying to get a deep breath. See, okay. Right.

Patriot is going to be looking a little crazy out there. Listen, bro. And when you do the oxygen, you think the oxygen help you? No, I don't do nothing, but make it worse when you put that mask off. I don't do nothing, but make it worse, man. Like, unless you're sitting over there long enough

to get your breath all the way back, man, just real quick. Don't even, I was sitting on, bro. Too low. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I played it out there one time, and I don't, I don't know. It didn't, it didn't affect me too much. Every Lenovo is built to let them go. Let them work and rework.

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like my boy RC or something. Yeah, RC couldn't really play. I'm like, I don't know, like something they're right, like he couldn't even play there, bro. Like, man, almost lost his lights over there. He gave his bald and his pancreas over there, bro. That's crazy. Like, no, mm-mm.

Like, and he's saying this, though. like New England's defense, you know, it's just a pushover, though. No, they, Gonzalez and them boys be out there. It's trapping. Like, come on, nah. You got a backup quarterback. I don't care what he did in 22.

He probably had more time playing then. He ain't seen no snaps this year. No, that's what he ain't played in a minute. That's why I just went to go look. You know? What he had, he did something. But I'm, if the Patriots lose this, that's on them.

That's on them. Yes. For sure. Listen, I'm telling you right now. If the Broncos are winning, I'm going to be very impressed. Listen, Vrable coming out there, he is a defensive-minded coach, and he's going to take away the run game. And he's like, you're going to have to beat me with this quarterback who has not played all a year. And he's going to have to make effective throws because it's not like we don't come after the quarterback because we do.

Okay. And when they come down to it, special teams will be a huge spotting this one, too. Yep. Field position. And if anybody strike out on somebody else, I don't know if they'll be able to come back from that one. There's no coming back from a touchdown, I don't think. I like, I like, if the Patriots, if the Patriots get up,

the Broncos, I don't think they're coming back. If the Broncos can start to get up, I'm watching the joint more tight because I think the Patriots have a better chance for Drake May to get more points. But if the Broncos, if the Patriots strike out, I think that they can get them out the way. There's no way. I don't think they're going to be able to walk.

Oh, yeah. They're not no walk down. Oh, yeah, they're going to start running the ball. Like, they did against Houston. Yes, laying that weight on them. Yep. Like time control. Now you can't get the rock.

We're up by 14. And you can't score two touchdowns. So the game is basically over if they get up by two scores. Oh, all day. Two scores, yeah. Two scores, I mean 10. It's free fall now. Uh-huh.

Like, yeah, they're going, going. So what you're going to, we're going to put a score out there, then, Debo. What you think the game, what you predict the score is going to be, my brother, for the Patriots at Broncos. I got 23 to 10. Hmm. Okay, okay, okay. 23 to 10. I like that, actually.

I'm going to go 26 to 13. 2613? Yep, 2613. Okay. 2613 Patriots. Yes. Same thing. Almost down there.

Let's go on over here and see what we got going on in. The Seattle and the Rams. Who you got on that? Tell me what you're thinking on this. In my mind and in my heart, I'm going with the Rams because I like San Bradford, more than I like, damn, Darnold.

Okay, my brother. Like Stafford better than Darnold. I like Stafford more than Darnel. I like, Matthew, Stafford more than I like Darn. So, like, that's kind of where it sums down to. And I like the fact, I'm not, the Seahawks can win for sure. The Seahawks can definitely win. I'm not just, oh, no, I got the Rams.

I'm saying it because I have to pick. I'm not going to be over here just, oh, no, Seahawks, oh, no, Rams. Both of them can win, obviously. I'm going to say the Rams, but I would not be surprised. at all if the Seahawks were to win the game for show. Because Seahawks got everything, and it's really like Sam Darnold, you just don't mess it up. You know what I'm saying?

Like, they have, their special teams is better than the Rams special teams. Their run game, I mean, I think besides that, everything else is kind of comparable. I think the Seahawks defense is better and their special teams is better. I just like the Rams because the Rams defense is good enough. And then we got Puka, we got Williams, we got, Now, we got Adams, and I just like them. We got McVeigh.

I just like the way that they call plays. I like the way they score points easily. Matthews Stafford throws the ball so well. No, look, all those dig routes. And versus Seahawks last time, he threw for 457 yards. So I'm like, in a one game thing, I hear you with Seattle, your defense is number one, but he threw for 457 on you. He's averaging 297 yards in the last two games y'all played in their rushing game.

they're averaging 130 rushing yards versus y'all. So Seahawks, y'all got everything. Walker, amazing, but they're missing Charbonnet. Charbonnet's out, but Walker, the third, is good enough to run it for both of them. They got good tight ends. They got Jackson Smith. They got the special teams, like I said. So Seattle should win if they just play the way they normally do,

and Donald doesn't go out there and mess it up. The Rams got to go out there and play. Crazy ball. Special teams don't be out there losing your mind. Defense don't get ran over by Walker the whole game, and y'all can be have a chance. Yeah, I'm, I'm going to have to go with Seattle, dude. The Rams are going to have to actually run the ball effectively

to keep Seattle's pass rush from doing what it is they do. Like. Not Bradford, Stafford. Yeah, I say Stafford. Yeah, my man. Yeah, the Rams are, like I said, they got to run the ball effectively. And they're going to have to keep with it. Like, and I just don't, I don't, I just don't see them keeping with it.

And if they get behind and, and Seattle gets up and, like you said, Charbonnet is out, but Walker. Walker is totally. Walker, he was a starter. I'm just saying they had a double-headed monster, but it was a two-headed monster, but now with just one. That's why he had three Tunnies last game. Yes, bro. Yeah, he was, bro.

He was going ham. Oh, my God. Like, and for me, I just think Seattle's defense is going to have more success against the Rams offense than the Rams are going to have against Seattle's offense. Like, hell, even the last, whatever has been since the playoffs started, the Rams, do what are they 25, 27% on third downs? They're last of everybody that's left. like and the Rams are down in the secondary a little bit man and Seattle guy JSCN Cooper Cup did a little something last week along with the groundback he was catching balls out of the backfield I think

he had like three four of them out of the backfield no you have a you have a valiant valiant valiant argument everything you say is correct I'm like this yep yep yep okay and like go ahead L's defense right it ain't that. Like, they middle of the pack. You're talking about going into the 12th man?

With all that, I just, dude, I just see Seattle actually pulling through this one and getting the W at the crib, even though they don't beat them whatever number of times it was, I just, that's what I see, because I believe they're going to be able to run the ball effectively. Like, look at last week, bro.

What, darn on they had, what, 17 attempts. Look what they did to San Fran, bro, because they was able to run the ball. They was applying. They was putting that, yes, yes, yes, yes. You right. You right? You right.

You might want to come on over here, Joe. Brother, I'm putting my belief in Matthew Stafford. Okay? And Sean McVeigh, I believe that they are. going to beat him. But if Sam Donald goes out there and does this, then Sam Donald is writing a new book because I never just really tell.

I'm not too big of a Sam Donald. I like him. I'm not a big Sam Donald fan. But sometimes that's what I'm saying. Right now, if he does this, he's going to show me something. You know what I'm saying? Like, he can do it. He can do it. I just believe, like, I don't know. He has a better team. So I'm like, he's going to, you

don't, he doesn't have to go out there. I could see why I could be on your side, Debo. But I just, I got to, I just believe that Stafford is going to do it and show how go to you lie a little nervous but i just again dude defense defense win championships man defense this is when i'm telling you this is a reason that's on the field this is a reason why they came off with arrest and and bawled out this is a reason why matthew stafford is going to be able to be in that hall of fame conversation because the games like this when not supposed to go win

And you're like this. I'm like this, brother, they had Matthew Stafford, though. You know what I'm saying? They had Sam Donald, better team. They had Matthew Stafford. And that's why they won that. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like if he goes and do it, that's why I'm like,

I think he's a Hall of Fame quarterback because when he was with the Lions, they might not have the roster. But look, here, they got squad. Maybe not the best defense, but you got pook or you got Devonte. And I'm putting my bread on Matt over Donald. So I'm like, I'm putting it on Donald, man. I'm putting it on. You put on the Seahaw?

I ain't putting it on the defense. The only, well, I don't dislike Donald. I'm just not like, okay, he's going to be able to go out there and do the thing. And then you add on top of it, he got an abel bleak issue or something that he got going on right now. That's limited to him. So if they, but if they can't run the ball and they got to go throwing, throwing, I'm a little nervous then. I'm telling you, I'm excited. I can't wait to watch this, true.

The other one, I think, you know. know, it's going to be a good game. Because my mother, the backup quarterback. Seattle will pull it off. Seattle will pull it off. Rams going to go. 20 to 17. 20 to 17.

Yeah. You're a bugging. 20 to fucking. Defense go do their thing. I'm trying to tell you. Let me tell you what the Rams are going to do. The Rams are going to score 33 points. And the Seahawks are going to score 24.

Oh, you're bugging. You don't like their defense, huh? is they going to just get passed on them. Wow. They're going to get past on them. Matter of fact, no, no, no, let me get them some more points. Let me get this more respect. Why don't you just take less points off of, off of LA?

Because you really think they're going to put 33 up on these boy? No, no, no, okay, no, my. You're right, you're right, you're right. Like, you're tripping. You know what? You know what? It's going to be close. 27, 24.

That's better. 27, 24. Okay, I let you. Let me redo. Let me redo. A little delusion with that, but it's still. Because I just was looking at the last one. It was 38, 37.

and then we're overtime now. So that kind of threw my whole thing off for why I was going so high. Oh, they didn't learn from that, though. They don't learn from that. Okay. I'm trying to tell you already... I already talked to everybody.

You ain't talked to them, too. I already talked to everybody. What up, man? It's time for player Faye presented by Spitz. All right, Joe. Yes, sir, yes, sir. You know how I go, man. hit on my picks for Sunday, man.

Yes, sir, yes, sir. Your boy over there in Denver is not getting more than 200 yards passing. He is not. He is not, you say. Now, look here. I believe Williams go get more than 55. Only reason I believe he'll get more than 55, I think they're going to try and hand the ball to him like 20 times.

He'll come out of there with like 60 yards, all right? But that ain't going to do it. They ain't go do it, though. Because people can go get over 91. You've lost your mind. And I know good and damn well, Sam Darnold go get more than five yards. Passing.

I'm going to tell you this right now. Hey, man, who even put that on there, man? Listen, listen. Whoever made this line, I appreciate you. I appreciate you, baby. I am not rocking with this line. Oh, what's you doing? You think Puka's not going to have a hundred ball?

Uh-uh. Oh, you're a. bugging out. They got to hold up to that password for him to get a hundred ball. Brother, brother, brother, brother. He's going to have a hundred for sure. 100 for sure. 100 for sure.

100 for show, Debo. I'm telling you, that's why I literally, I can't even, yep, I can't do it. I can't do it, Debo. A hundred for sure. A hundred for sure. He's about to go. A hundred for show. I could put it on their books.

So you go fade that, okay. I'm going to fade it, Dibah. I'm going to fade it. Just watch what I'm telling you. Watch this one. Watch this one. I'm going to watch it. I'm going to watch it for show.

I'm going to be FaceTime me. Listen, listen, Joe. I'm going to FaceTime me. When all that go wrong. Remember, I told you so. But this is what I need y'all to do. Download the app right now and use the code. Debo Joe, get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5.

Make sure you play mine. Don't get, don't go. Fating. Go ahead. We're going to see. Play Debo's. Go ahead, man. I just don't know, man.

Poot. It's poop. He didn't do it last week, so he got, he's, he's pissed. He's going to go to a hundred. Joe. Them dig house. That's a great news. Hold up, man.

Philip Rivers is interviewing today for the Buffalo Bill's head coaching job. How he going to interview for the head coach job? Did he even coach anywhere else by high school? If they get him a job, we need. to get the job. Debo, he, if he gets the job, Debo, you know what?

You know something. Then you, then we, then, then our hat needs to for sure be in the ballot. Because I thought you needed some, for sure,

at least coaching the spirit. I know how to, I've seen, I've been coached before. Brunner, reports say Josh Allen sitting in on the head coaching interviews.

What? What's going on over here, man? Listen, hey look, hey look, man, look, Josh Allen, though,

I ain't going to lie. You already had the owner talking about, hey, listen, we ain't pick a, we didn't pick him. We ain't pick him. No, he said, he said the gym didn't, he wasn't for him. That was them coaches. But we like him. But, huh? God, what?

So this is what I'm saying. Josh Allen is sitting in on the coach. Bro, why is he even getting an interview, bro? He got five years in high school. That's it. Coaching. That's his whole whole coaching. Five years in high.

No, I'm mad, Debo, Debo, Debo, Nebo. No, no, no, don't be mad. Listen, I'm calling, I'm calling Art. I'm calling Dan and I'm calling Omar and I better get an interview. If it ain't nothing else. Debo, hold on, bro. Let me call these people.

You got, call them, bro. I'm on my way. Hey. Call them. Hand up there. Dan. Omar, I'm on my way for the interview. Y'all about to give me.

They got Philip Rivers right here getting an interview. He didn't did five years in high school. By year high school. I've been coaching my kids. At least you could get an interview. They've been coaching them. Ever since this, I've been doing 15 years. Go through the interview process, Debo, they got to give you an interview

so now we can know the questions and what's going on and the ends and outs. You deserve an interview. If Philip Rivers just got to interview, Debo, ain't no way you can't get no interview. Call him. Call him, oh, ma'am, man. Bro. I'm driving.

I'm driving down there, brother. I'm driving down. After the show. You got five minutes. Tell them they got five minutes, man. Brough, I don't even need to put no gas. I gassed up last night because it's supposed to get cold. It's supposed to get, like, down the next.

negative something, you know, had to gas up, make sure I ain't, you know, get caught on the highway, get stopped somewhere. I got to make sure. It's about to be 21 inches out here. Who, where? Here. Out in where I'm at. Oh, I hope so.

Not here. We bunkered down over here, Debo. We bunker down. It's supposed to get real crazy in the Northern Virginia, D.C. area. We're supposed to get 16 to 20 inches of snow. Bruh. I think we got a chance, though. I got a chance of actually getting hired.

Now, looking at it. They say, You don't have a chance. You have a great chance. A great chance. Norm van Brockland in 1961 in 161 is the last person to be hired as a full-time NFL head coach without any prior college. That's go be me and Phil. 1961, me and Phil, we're about to change this.

We both. Change the game. He'll be over there in Buffalo. I'm going to be over here in Pittsburgh. and we're doing the thing, man. I'm telling you, and I'm going to be the DB coach. Yeah, no question. I told you.

Me and a half, Joe, I got to make sure you right. You feel you. See, you're too kind. Hey, I got two kind. I got to make sure you right, man. Thank you. Thank you, my brother. Listen, I already seen what you do.

I don't heard how you do. We don't sit there. We don't talk, ball. You know? You know? You know ball. Ball recognized ball. Ball recognized ball, brother.

You know what I'm saying? We got some super chats, man. We got it. A, B2 Lit, 338, donated $20 and said, why do you think Ryan Clark said, if Tomlin was white, then he would have been, he wouldn't have been pushed out. He was pushed out.

I don't know if he said that. wasn't pushed out. Yeah, your premise is messed up. So. I think he was pushed out. He graciously bowed out. Yeah. He made his own decision.

Like, I don't, I don't think he said he was pushed out because he, well, everybody knows he wasn't pushed out. So. Yeah.

Nah. Yep. Appreciate the money. Thank you, brother. All right. A.B. too lit. 388, 338.

Appreciate you. Appreciate you. But the question messed up. Look here, back. So, who you got in the Super Bowl? I have the Patriots playing the Rams. I mean, you almost, that's halfway. That's halfway.

I got the Patriots playing the Rams. Patriots is right. The only part you're messing up on is Rams. And then I got to think about it. Then I got to think about it. Okay. Okay. I mean, I like, I like what you're saying. You know, everything sounds good, but you like the patient. We get to watch and see what happens on Sunday as exactly how I predicted it to happen is what's going to happen. And then anybody that ran with Joe and faded me go be upset about themselves. Okay. They go, because they pockets ain't going to be sitting fat and heavy like mine is. Okay. Money so tall make all. You understand?

Yeah, Joe. Okay. Hey, look here, man. We want to thank y'all for joining this episode of Debo and Joe. So please make sure you like, subscribe, and download the show. We're going to be right back here on Monday talking about who it is that's going in the Super Bowl because it's going to be who I pick, not who Joe said. He's going to get halfway right and halfway wrong.

Mm-hmm. Sitting there. and he's going to be like, damn, I should have listen to Debo. Joe? They listen to what Debo is saying he's wrong. I'm going to be here telling you exactly how it went down and why it's exactly what I thought and not what Debo thought. So see y'all here on Monday. And we out.

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