Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - MNF REACTION: Steelers DOMINATE Dolphins! Can Myles Garrett still break sack record?

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Monday Night Football where Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers thrashed Tua Tagovailoa and the Miami Dolphins. Later, they... debate Cleveland Browns DE Myles Garrett ability to break the sack record after sustaining a hip injury, and much more news from Week 15 of the 2025 NFL season! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE  Timeline:00:00 - Steelers beat Dolphins43:43 - Myles Garrett cashing sack record47:15 - Should Bengals bench Joe Burrow? (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:58 Hey, hey, Joe, how you doing today, Joe? I see you got the proper attire on today. Man, Debo, I'm doing amazing. I'm doing great. That was what we expected. That was what we were looking for. Belt to Tushy. No question.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Belt two Tushy. That's what we go call it. Man, let's go ahead and jump into this. Listen, Miami went to toss, and they just get real disrespectful. They say they want the ball. Tripping. Tripping. Tripping.
Starting point is 00:02:30 We kicked the ball off to him. Of course, special teams do what they're supposed to do. They started to 27. Now, the first play, ah, two hits his heel for, you know, for 20. That right there, that's Highsmith. Yes. He got, he got to take that man crossing. He becomes the new number two.
Starting point is 00:02:50 He got backer. He's looking like we're playing quarters. So he has to go with him. I understand what he's thinking. he's thinking run but you still have to take care of your responsibility which is going to be that guy coming back they end up getting 20 yards on that i'm not tripping because i know he just in it in it ready ready he just he he fidgety okay it's cool let that play go we get on to the next play and it's the same thing this time except
Starting point is 00:03:27 Ice Smith stays where he's supposed to, and he actually bangs. He fits up on number two. He runs into the running back. The only thing I would like to see him do better on this one is, again, stay on that outside because even though we dropped him for a loss, that's some more meat on the bone. We could have had him back there deeper because he was able to get on the outside. You got all that pursuit coming on the inside.
Starting point is 00:03:53 We'd have been able to stop him for more than just the, you know, one-yard loss. For sure, for sure. Yeah, so second, what was the second of 11? They ended up getting four. Again, right here, you know, Herbic makes the play from his knees. Yes, effort. Let's get it. Effort.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Same thing. But, again, he got that tight, he got that tight split. He got a big body tight end that's sitting right here. They roll down that, the outside guy. So now your tight end is sitting at your one. As soon as you see him roll out, you got to turn into that. tight end get on his outside that tight end is going to release off of you now you fly down to that fullback squeeze that hole to where you still keep that outside contained and now you squeeze
Starting point is 00:04:41 that alley for queen to be able to come down there and he could have made that you know for an easy you know maybe a two-yard game possibly you know a loss because he will squeeze that alley now he could shoot that gap before the tight end even get to him again more meat on the bone. Yes, we speak in nuances. You want them to make sure, like, good play, you got it done, but there's just execution that you could do it a little bit better. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:05:07 So good job, but still, like you said, little meat on the bone could get it done. Not piss, but, you know what I'm saying? Just coaching points. Oh, easily, easily. I think we ended up getting to, what was it, third and seven. And my young man, good man, Joey Porter, Jr., Peezy, you know what I'm saying, P.B.U.
Starting point is 00:05:24 No good defense. Hey, we get them into what we want them in. too. We want a passing situation. We want them to do it. We want them doing something that they are unreliable at doing, and that is their passing game with their quarterback. Correct. We get the pressure to them. They get the ball into
Starting point is 00:05:39 the dirt. Peezy on that thing tight. They have to punt the ball. They put the ball. We do a smart play. We don't touch it. We get a touchback. Still has come out. We're starting on the 20. I believe the first down, we dumped it to Smith. It was only two yards.
Starting point is 00:05:55 It was no game. for Gainwell on the next one. And then on the third down, we ended up picking up seven or the eight that we needed. Them boys right there, I ain't going to lie. At the beginning of the game, they were hitting. It was open field tackles.
Starting point is 00:06:10 They was defensive backs making those tackles. Game well on the, no game, it was one-on-one versus DB. That dude Douglas made that tackle. That was a great play. When they came and crashed down, it was outside in. I got the outside leg linebacker comes in inside.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Fum, you're not falling forward. So, like, they came out there and was hitting and tackling. at the beginning of the games. I'm like, okay, like, that was good defensive plays by them. We got it. Like, we got what we like him. I liked him to be able to make a miss and be able to get that first down,
Starting point is 00:06:35 but they made stops and were tackling for real. So I was like, okay, good job by the Dolphins. You know what I see y'all came to play. Yo, yeah, they definitely, they definitely came to play probably for most of the first half, you know, they were making real good plays, dude. Yes. You know, Miami get out there and first down, was the H-O. A-Chane, H-H-N, H-H-N, H-H-C, H-H-N, H-H-H-N, H-H-H-H-H-H-N,
Starting point is 00:06:56 Hey, Chan, he gets sick. Again, I think it was the inside linebacker 50. Like, we got to stay with that outside. You know, he got to keep that shoulder free. We're doing the same thing where we peek-a-booing. You know what I'm saying? If he don't peek-a-booing, he stay out there, he can keep going over, and he gives Queen the opportunity to come over the top of that.
Starting point is 00:07:16 They also, you know, Queen kind of slow-played it because he see the tight-in flow back. That ain't true. That's going to Highsmith, let it go. And keep going where you see that footback going, because this is going to be an extra gap, you know what I'm saying? Gotcha. They end up getting six, again, more meat on the bone. We could have stopped them for less than six, you know?
Starting point is 00:07:36 Second down, it's him again. You know, he goes 10. On this one, we're running into the same situation. We got Herbert. He goes inside. You got to keep you outside. That's not you. But he gets back, but he gets so thick on the fullback,
Starting point is 00:07:52 which would have been his new guy that he would have been to, that they're able to get outside of. But I'm with that to still all that. Keep your outside arm free. Right. If he played a little different and he works that outside of that tight end, throw him in and come up, he can play it from outside in. So please that down.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Same thing again, keeps the play inside. They don't get 10 yards. Again, everybody do your job first and then after that help your partner. I think that would have been no more than, you know, a couple yards. But I ain't go lie to you. on that tackle. I thought Ramsey was about to get thrown out of the game. I just knew he was about to dump that man on his head, bro.
Starting point is 00:08:34 I don't know. I just wanted, I'm glad he just wanted to show him. I could do it. I could do it, man. You know what I'm saying? And then just put him down, looking at him. Like, I was rocking with the way Ramsey was out there playing. I'm glad he didn't dump him on his head because that would have been 15 for no reason.
Starting point is 00:08:49 He just was like this, you're small. You know what I'm saying? I can hold you up. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm going to let you know. No, you like.
Starting point is 00:08:56 You light. First down, two of his waddle. Again. That's why, though, Debo, this is happening because it was getting six yards. Then he was able to get 10 yards. You're expecting to run off the play action. Now, lineback is coming up. That bang going to be right behind you.
Starting point is 00:09:10 You know what I'm saying? As soon as he see, Harrison, as soon as he see that fake, he got to dig out of there and look for what was coming. I believe if he did that, he was almost there anyway without doing it. He gets, he does it. He can actually, I mean, worst case, he'll do. deflected. He could have had a interception, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:29 You know, he has to turn and get to that coverage responsibility. But again, we got him in there for the run game. So he's, you know, he's thinking more run heavy. But you still got to, you know, be able to do your job. Ramsey comes up and makes the play. We stop him right there, you know, the next play. What happened, Joe? Got to be more careful.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Out there, to it through a lollipop out there to a santi. My good man. What's your corner do? What's your corner? What do you do? High to low. You have no work in front of you, so you keep going deep. You get underneath that seven route.
Starting point is 00:10:03 You got Jalen on the top. So if he goes fade or he goes post, you got your safety. But that seven, that's your play. And he got right underneath of it. And it's like, oh, my goodness. Like, it didn't even make it hard on him. High point the ball, catch it. Waddle trying to basically turn it to the DB and break it up.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Just a great job of holding the ball and going down with it. So good job by Sonti. Great job by defense. Horrible throw by a team. to her, I don't know why you throw that ball. Like, it's not open. You know what I'm saying? Like, throw it out of bounds, check down something, get missing, go down.
Starting point is 00:10:33 But, like, don't throw the turn the ball over. You got a good drive going. This person's 10. Being called, you know, grounding because it would have looked like he was trying to get it to him. Man, yes, throw it out of bounds high far over there. Yeah, still let's get out there. I think it was warm for six and then three, third down. They ended up doing a tush push.
Starting point is 00:10:53 They said, you know what? We ain't get a hell. They double touch push. They double touch. I ain't going to lie to you. I might have punted that one because it was still tight right there. Yeah, yeah. I would rock with it.
Starting point is 00:11:02 I mean, I'm glad. I'm glad we got it. Hey, yeah. Just the momentum, for the momentum, for the momentum. Like, I was like, because I'm looking like, guys, we got to get a yard. And when we didn't get the first touch push, I'm like, come on. You know what I'm saying? Our touch push is a real kind of trying to find a home.
Starting point is 00:11:19 That's what made me nervous where I would have been like, I don't think I'm going to punt this. It is a little hazy. But yeah, go ahead. The first down, we get no gain again, because Miami is tackling. They are coming up feeling like one-on-ones. Like, it's something. Yeah, I ain't a lot. The first half, they came to play.
Starting point is 00:11:37 But, you know, second to ten, we hit somebody over the middle, that man, the D-K for 22. Mm-hmm. Over the middle. That was nice ball, bro. That's just the, that the, the, the dig. ball. You know what I'm saying? That was one of the A-Ride. He didn't throw the ball too far past the line of scrimmage. It was very consistent. But that one on the money. Dig. Let's get it. Again, next play. Warren for six. And then right after that, for one, we're running the ball, making them come up and tackle at some point, which it ended up happening. They're going to get tired of coming up here and getting hit and having to make these tackles.
Starting point is 00:12:16 No, for sure. It's cold outside. Yes. Yes. Third down. It's an incompletion. Roger. just throws it low. I mean, he only had four. I mean, you got to, you know, you got to at least having incompletion here and there. But we get to a fourth down. We get a, we get a first down after they quick snap it. Yes. He was working a good job with the hard count the whole way. So he was building this up. So they was expecting and probably the hard count them to try to get them to jump. But now, we're going fast count you. You're not even ready for the play. So I learned that they came up there using that the whole time. It's like baiting them, baiting them.
Starting point is 00:12:55 No, no, no, we're going to quit. And, well, I think he picked up nine right there. That got us first. Yeah, we lost one on the next first down. I think second down. One, got five on two. Ooh. I ain't know if you were going to make it back into the game.
Starting point is 00:13:11 That's what I'm trying to tell you. Them dudes were flying to the rock. Douglas, all them little D.Bs, the linebackers. I wasn't mad at him. So it was, it wasn't that the Steelers couldn't really get nothing going. It was like, these dudes were making plays. You know what I'm saying? Like, they had to, you ain't going to make all of them.
Starting point is 00:13:27 But you're going to make, you know what I'm saying? You're going to make some of them. Hey, I ain't going to lie. They was making all of them in that first half. At the beginning, at the beginning. I'm like, yeah. Third down 11, we end up get sacked. You know, knocks us out of field.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Go range. Knox us out of field goal range. We got to, you know, we got to punt the rock. Give it back to Miami. First down, they only get two. Everybody did they're supposed to do. You know, second down. Again, Tua hit Waller.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Mm-hmm. What was it for eight? The DB has to force him to go back inside. Inside. Let him out. You can't. There's nothing out there. You got pursuit coming.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Yes. Again, all fixable. Like, I'm not tripping. Like, everything is fixable. That's what I'm saying. None of these are a talent issue. All of these are something that basically boot. Stay outside, man.
Starting point is 00:14:15 You know what I'm saying? You got to force the ball. Next play. H-N. Five yards. Again, we're playing peekable. He's going to make you wrong. Stay outside.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I think the next play, he only picks up three. Great pursuit by Queen, grabbing by the earhole. Mm-hmm. And then third down. That was third down. That was third. Toa went to scramble, and Queen made a great stop on him right there. That put him to the fourth down.
Starting point is 00:14:41 I was thinking they might have tried a fake, but they ended up getting that delay. We had our defense out there. Yes. Yes. You know what I'm saying? I was trying to tell it. Hey, anything under. Linebackers, everybody was sitting there like this out with sure.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I wish you would. Yeah. That's what you was saying. Like, have your defense out there. You know what I'm saying? Make them punt the ball. Make sure you get the rock. Anything five and under, we punt safe.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Come on, man. Delay a game. Especially if, well, not five and under. You and that three and shorter, like, yo, it's punt safe. Yeah, for sure. We need to make sure that you end up punting the ball. We get possession of the ball. I don't give a damn about us returning how far we get.
Starting point is 00:15:18 We need to make sure you punt the ball. Still, let's get the rod back in the first play. Warren goes for 24, but we get a hold in. Brings it back. That's going to kill drives, brother? It kills the drive. We ended up getting, you know, seven on the next play, and then 10 on the play after that.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Demd. He was fighting for their life trying to tackle Washington. Man, he was, he still didn't, but he still hasn't gone down. And we ended up getting to a manageable third and three, but we just sat. We got to punt. the rock back to them.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I think Miami gets the ball. Your boy, A. Chan, I think it was like four on the first down. In completion on second down. It was good colors. Oh, this down right here. This is the one that killed me. This is the simple ones, too.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Just, you know, he extended the play. You got to stay like that. Like, by this time, birthday, that's your man. Stay on them. Like, stay, stay, stay on them. We're latching by now. You know what I'm saying? He went from the back field all away from the right side of the field.
Starting point is 00:16:22 all the way across to the left side of the field. So, like, just on that one, we got to, by the time of this. Same thing. It looks, I'm with you. Same thing. It looks like we're in quarters. So basically what it comes down to is 2.6, when he comes up, he don't need to come up. You see Herbick on the other side, his guy goes in.
Starting point is 00:16:39 As his guy goes in, Herbert is looking to see what's coming back. Something got to come back. So he stops as it comes back. If 2-6 is seeing that and he's playing at the depth, he can pick that up. He's not playing at the depth. He goes to pick it up. up picking up what 24 on that play yes you know again it's fixable no for sure it's it's fixable it's not like we're trying to figure out what you know what the hell is going on he's created a lot
Starting point is 00:17:05 of time it was a scramble play like it wasn't just you know what I'm saying nothing normal so we can we can fix that yeah the defense holds queen makes a great play come on shoot the gap third and one that's what I'm talking about that's what I'm yeah no give him those opportunities like I said, our backers stay on that outside. You give him those opportunities to get squeezed down in there before him. That dude could get, he's going to make that play. I ain't going to lie to. I was surprised they went for a 54-yard field goal.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Me too. I don't think they understand what, you know, accruiter is like. The element is the man, he didn't give a daggone about accuracy or none of that. We didn't care what the weather was, what the field temperature was. He cashed that. Hey, he smoked that thing, bro. What? He smoked that thing, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Mm-hmm. I just knew it was going to be a miss. I'm like, ooh, that's, oh, that's, yeah, that's going in. That's cash. Yeah, that's, that's, all right, I know, all right, okay, good kick. They kick the ball off and they make a little bit of a mistake. They get a landing zone penalty. Free kick landing.
Starting point is 00:18:08 The offense, you know, they start to, they start to come a life a little bit. Debo, starting at the 40-yard line is a completely different game now. You know what I'm saying? I think with the, because now with the field goal kickers being able to kick further, 40 yards, man, you get a first down. You're right, you're at a half field. Yes, yes, yes. Joe, tell him, we used to start at the Twinkie.
Starting point is 00:18:27 At the Twinkie. At the 20. They have made it so easy now. They said, we need more points. That's three first downs, like, real live. You got to have a real drive going. You know what I'm saying? Get it really supposed to play.
Starting point is 00:18:40 You're not getting any points. You're punting. Uh-huh. First play, Rogers throws it short when it's... Hey, man, he ran over a D-Lyman dude. Yes, he did. That was a big lineman. That wasn't a line break, bro.
Starting point is 00:18:53 He had things to prove, man. He was getting physical out there, man. He had things to prove. He didn't physical out there everywhere off his defense. He got trade. He got, he felt disrespectful. Y'all got rid of me? I'm going to show you something.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And he was up on their sideline doing it the whole time. Second and seven. Rogers to Washington. Hey, they're fighting for their life again. Every time they get that man to bar, them boys, like, ooh. Oh, business decisions. Oh, business decision. Help.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Hey, y'all see you then got the ball. Come on now. Come on, man. Why y'all are all looking around crazy? Y'all see who got the ball? Hey, come on now. I'm not, I ain't the only one to see him coming. He get 10.
Starting point is 00:19:31 And then Gangwell squeezes out four yards on that. Dude, that should have been a tackle for a loss. Yes, it should have. Followed by a hot screen that he took five. We get the fourth and one. That boy Connor get up in there. He'd say, hey, to split. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Again, Roger's the Gainwell. Ten, and then they had a nerd of face mask. Oh, my. Did you see my... He was all really close. What? Hey, he yanked that. He was tackling anybody.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I thought Gainwell was neat. That's one looked crazy. Did you see it? Hey, yes. That looked crazy. Yeah, because he was holding on to that face mask, yes. My wife was like, oh, what happened?
Starting point is 00:20:17 I'm like, baby, girl, I'm just so glad Gamewell out there just now because he like he grabbed the face mask then he was like bent down bent up and then I grabbed that knee and then he was like I think it was one of those like oh man my knee went wrong and he was oh I'm good my man was like it did a little something but young that's that young knee that man like come he praised the law I'm so happy he okay right if I did something like that man y'all going ahead I'm tearing everything from my knee down ACL to LPCLB brother brother fibula everything fractional 10 places bray man take man take me up to the I'm up a room my whole thing blown third down Connor gets a nice one his first
Starting point is 00:20:58 touchdown dude yes yes yes yes seven to three we just went on a 12 play 60 yard touchdown drafts that's how we answer that's how we answer hey yes yeah that wouldn't be that wouldn't that wouldn't be the only answer no no no no that's how we start that's how we start that's how we ended that's how we ended the first half, you know what I'm saying? We're getting the ball back for the second half. Ha ha! Yes, sir. Hey, we get the ball back.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Hold up. Oh, man. Hey, man. You know what we did, Debo? Hey, we said, hey, this is Pittsburgh. In December, this is physical football. You all went in there. You all went in there half time and got warm.
Starting point is 00:21:49 it's cold out here. Y'all, I bet y'all didn't want to come back out. It's time to run the rock down your grills. Blam. Blam. Blam. Warren, three times in a row. He picked up 11 and a first down.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Then game well, he said, hey, let me get some of that. Let me get some work. What are he breaking for? 38. Oh, my goodness. Did he run through somebody's tackle like they weren't there? Like they weren't even there. Like they weren't even there?
Starting point is 00:22:19 You don't buy another run. Oh, man. Three yards. That should have been a loss. No. No. Y'all can't keep doing this for 60 minutes. Y'all ain't used to this.
Starting point is 00:22:29 No, no, no. Four of the four years, you've been in Miami too long. No. No. You're not used to the elements. It's cold outside. What it's like, Joe? Tell them what it's like when you come up in that cold at first time.
Starting point is 00:22:41 You don't want none of that. You don't, man, you're trying to get to the bleachers. Are the seats warm over there? No question. They want to play. gangster. Y'all got heated bleachers, right? Y'all are freezing. You can heat the bleachers, right? Lipp doing like this.
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Starting point is 00:26:14 NVS, let me hit my guy with 19-yard touch. That's the way you do it, Debo. That play action, that man was wide open. They expected them to get crack, crack, crack again, and cracked again. Five runs. No. One pass. 71 yards.
Starting point is 00:26:29 That drive was beautiful. B-A-U-T-Fill. God. So that's how you win first down. No, that's how you get it again. Then you get it, Warren. Yeah, go ahead, Gamewell, get some. Go get some.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Oh, it's sweet out here. Go get you some. It's sweet. out here. Everybody can get them some. Everybody could get some. I thought about getting some. Listen, they get out there. They, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I thought about going to get me some. You thought about going to get you some? Almost when it got them. You get some. Yeah. Come on, Devo. Yes, sir. They had you out there thinking you go ahead and smack you somebody.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Talk to me. Talk to them. Yeah. You know what the defense did when they came back out there, three and out. third down, hey, hey, that boy came all the way from the depths for that sack. Come on, bro, Jalen ran 20, he ran a 40-odd dash, full speed. Full speed. Pushed them down.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Pushed them down. Pushed them down. Just respectful. Get down, chump. Oh, my. How did he not just, hey, just, you out of the pocket, just throw it away. He said he's steady, pump faking, and you're out of the pocket. What do you, no, they're covered, throw it away. You could save yourself a sack.
Starting point is 00:27:46 That boy, no, he can't pass ball. I don't know what it was doing. And he went it to the left side. You left-handed, throw it out of the bounds, coach. But that's better for us because Jalen was running up on. Hey, man. Still, let's get the ball back, though. We cook him a little bit.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I'm trying to figure out it was 10 plays, 77 yards for a touchdown. Hey, hey, it was highlighted with your boy, Rogers. Caught him with that 12 man. Caught him with the 12 men. Bro, I like that 12 men. Smart. Smart. So smart.
Starting point is 00:28:17 It was like, it knew it. Get us that first down. He's like, oh, no, no, no. Don't let him get off the field. Uh-uh. Get over here. Snap the ball. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:28:25 That was beautiful. He's in control. Hey, Rowe said, hey, go ahead, give me the ball twice. I'm going to get nine for you each time. Boom, boom. I ain't going to lie to you, though. We got lucky they dropped that interception. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah. It's cold outside. Right. You said, hey, let me go ahead. Fire move. A hot 16. Yes. Hey, you know, there are other people that can catch that ball.
Starting point is 00:28:49 That man, that man over there. That man. They let us do that on third 12. What they let us do on third 12, Joe? That man turned into his inner Debo and started tossing people and stiff-arming people. So, look, don't disrespect. I love my, man, you know, the safety boom. He threw, then he hit him with a juke, juke, and then I love to get in the end zone.
Starting point is 00:29:11 When he threw out that stiff arm back just to accelerate. Hey, stop doing that to these people, kids out here. Why, I'd have told you about doing that. They got people out there while. They got a mom and daddy wife. They got kids out there. People that they love. They got people that they love.
Starting point is 00:29:26 They got people that they love. People that they love out here. You out here doing that too. I love people too. Everybody, oh, ain't nothing else on them. Now you go do that to them, D.K., don't you? I'm going to talk to you about that. Yeah, mean disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:29:40 So to score that, but we are 21, 3, right? now, Debo. 21-3. Twanky, as I like to say, Twanky, one, three. Hey, man. Hey, Miami get back out there. And Cam going here
Starting point is 00:29:55 and gets him a tackle. Yes. Hey, you know why? You know why? You know why? Why? Because the backup forced him back in. Inside.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Stayed where he was supposed to stay. Because you know Cam's pursuing. That's one thing Cam going to do. No question. He's going to get pursuing. Listen, man, I really feel like they were listening to us, bro. Like, hey, run the ball, down in the down, now drop your nuts. Don't, they ain't running the bar.
Starting point is 00:30:23 They ain't running the ball. Those boys are averaging almost 200 yards a game, bro. Look here, man. Second down, my boy, Highsmith drops up a potential pick. Oh, yeah. I ain't tripping, though. I ain't tripping, though. He right where he need to be.
Starting point is 00:30:40 That's how you go back under it. No question. No question. No question No question In the right spot Or down Hey
Starting point is 00:30:46 Hey What they do What you call that man What your man? P. Doug? That was a That was coverage by the DBs To allow that time for
Starting point is 00:30:55 P DUD That coverage sack by P Dube You're good man P Dug You were By this time right now I'm turned I'm turned at the crew
Starting point is 00:31:06 Because I'm like First damn You got Cam Making a tackle On the bypass All of all All the way over there, no game. Okay, second down, everybody's hype.
Starting point is 00:31:16 We know they're trying to pass. High Smith drops the pick. And then third down, we get a sack by P-Dub. Yes, sir. Turn at the crib. Turn at the crib. Hey, bro. There still let's get the ball back.
Starting point is 00:31:28 And score again for the fourth time in the last four possessions. Four drives. Listen, listen. Nine played 81 yards, mixing it up with the run in the past. Gangwell running that thing. Roger's spreading that thing out to him, hitting five move for a nice twanky two. Can we say the biggest player that drive?
Starting point is 00:31:53 The taunting? They got the taunting, had them looking crazy for standing over him. That kept the drive alive. Yeah. We still won't get it. We still won't get it done. We still don't get it done.
Starting point is 00:32:06 We still don't get it done, brother. Listen, man, we got Rogers out here scrambling. You know, like he 22 again. You know what I'm saying? He was out there chilling. I love he'd just be out there like he's in so much control. Relaxing. Hey, and we're running the ball.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Hey, we said, you know what? They said, hey, man, Gainwell don't got him enough, Warner got him enough. Smith, don't get you something. Go ahead, get your get back on him. 14. Touchdown. To the house. 14, y'all.
Starting point is 00:32:37 28. 28 to what? 28 to what? 28 to 3. 28 to 3. I ain't gonna lie to you Right What
Starting point is 00:32:44 From here It It wasn't the type of ball That I'd like to see I hate this type of ball I actually wrote down Right now Miami
Starting point is 00:32:58 At this point in the game Go ahead Debo You go ahead You go ahead let it up This point in the game This is what we don't want We're happy because we won Because it could be here
Starting point is 00:33:06 And I was I was saying I mean I'm understanding But I'm not understanding because the effort still needs to be there. They go six plays, 65 yards for a touchdown. They missed the two-point conversion. It's nine to 28.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Miami really wasn't trying to, like, come back, come back. They were taking their time. They was really, yeah, that was wild on their part. On top of that, the offense get out there and do a three-in-out. Mm-hmm. Play assist. I mean, that replay got hit with the replay assist. I thought, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:33:42 That sucks for us, but still, it is what it is. It's a three-in-out. A three-in-out is three-in-out. Yep, yeah. Miami gets the ball back. Again, I think it was almost nine plays, 90 yards. The one thing on this drive, that kind of was the only thing that pissed me off was we got second to 17. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:34:00 Don't break with the, what's my man, Swint, what, 33, the outside linebacker. You got to take the second man through the zone. I've seen Jalen Ramsey like, bro, that's you. On the big plays, when we know, and they start playing top down. They need chunks. They need big plays. It's second and 17. Anything in front of us is going to be third and short.
Starting point is 00:34:21 You know what I'm saying? Like, you got to start playing situationally and start playing a little bit smarter. Like, understand, they have to get chunk plays. You got second to 17. Back up a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Understand the wheel routes will kill you. Crossers, checkdowns.
Starting point is 00:34:35 We come down to those. We rally down to those and make those plays. So that was the biggest one for me on the drive. Like, all right, the other stuff, okay, little plays here and there. But somebody's running wide open and they get a 26-yard gain. Those are the ones I'm like this. Come on, bro. Like, that's easily eliminated.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Yeah, definitely, man. Stillers again, followed up with a three-in-out. Miami gets back out there. And games basically over with winning the game. What was it, 28 to 15? They went for a couple two-point conversions. that they get, they didn't get. My thing is this,
Starting point is 00:35:12 I'm, we did everything. I ain't going to say everything. We stopped the game at the third quarter. You start the game at the third quarter. That's it. Because I feel like we did everything that we were supposed to do except for the things that I feel like we need to fix. And the thing, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:30 I feel like we need to fix is like we have to improve. on third down efficiency as the off the offense we need to get better on third down efficiency yeah i think we're only four of 13 on third down um and when we get to that point at the end of the game as an offense we need to be able to close it out and burn the clock out we can't we can't just turn it over you know three and out and again over to the defensive side loved everything they did, like, except for we need to be able to close it out in the fourth quarter. When they come down to it, that fourth quarter, I believe, Tua, or not even Tua, the offense, even with the last little thing at the end, they had 192 yards in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:36:24 They only had a total of 285 for the whole game. Yeah. Like, we need to be able to close it up. We need to be able to handle success. and still come out there with that same energy and intensity that we did when the game was tight. You know, I feel like guys weren't flying to the ball like they were when the game was tight. You know, we were playing, you know, a little looser, which you are going to play a little looser. But letting the team go and make two 80 plus or 60 to 80-90-yard drives. Yeah. That's not what I want to do.
Starting point is 00:37:02 You don't want to put that on tape. like you don't you know that's not what you want to do and the other thing is you know it was it was places where you know we didn't feel the gaps correctly where we like I said we left meat on the bone that could have been opportunities for less yardage than they actually got you know we could if we did what you know we did at the first three quarters we could have left these boys out of here with less than you know 50 yeah no for sure and that that would be something to, but I do. I ain't going to lie to you. I'm extremely, extremely happy with where we went from last week to this week. I'm hoping this progresses week in and week out. And I'm going to be
Starting point is 00:37:48 100 to do it. This can happen and keep happening week in and week out. You could change my opinion on what we need to do with time, especially if the increase keeps going and we get deep into the playoffs and the numbers look like what they've been looking like for the offense and the defense where they're not giving up this they're not giving up that from this week forward it's 285 total yards if we could get it was only and like I said we shut down on that at 191 in the fourth quarter if we could look like that and that continues to look like that oh yeah I'm I'm gonna change my tone no that got to change the time.
Starting point is 00:38:30 1,000% and this is the thing that I would say about the Steelers 2. I'm geeked about the way they went out there and played
Starting point is 00:38:36 and we've seen it before. We know that they had a skill. We know that they can make it happen. People are in the right positions
Starting point is 00:38:43 and the stuff that we're grading them on and the stuff that we're judging them on about the things that they're not doing isn't skill-based. It's technique.
Starting point is 00:38:51 It's like just simple things of making the big plays. When you say that we bought the first three quarters, brother, Tua has 65
Starting point is 00:38:58 passing yards. You know what I'm saying? He had 188 passing yards in the fourth quarter, and that was those three drives. A lot of those were just checkdowns and give us up. But in the day, like you said, we don't need to be doing that. When my man gave up the wheel route to the tight end, he's wide open, those plays are things that we can't have. It's second to 17. We're coming off a sack. We need to get off the field on this possession. There should be no reason why they get that. So on the defensive side, I was very, very, very happy and impressed by the way that they just, the first three quarters, they shut it down. They didn't lose.
Starting point is 00:39:29 was on first down, they were very, very competitive, and they knew A-chan, he couldn't. If he couldn't run the ball, they weren't going to win. They put it on tour to try to throw it, and he couldn't do it. So, I mean, I love the way that we did that on defense, the offensive side of the ball, too. If we can win on first down, and, like, that's what happens when we start, when we don't win these drives and we start stalling out and we punt, it's because we're trying to get Jaylon Warren the ball on first and we run it, and we don't get any yards. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:56 Second down, we run. We don't get any yards. It's kind of like we kind of, unless the offensive line, we still have to be getting those four-yard gains, those six-yard games, still trying to come. And like you said, we were 0 for six in the first at the beginning on third downs, and we were going forward on fourth. But like these third and ones, some of them when Warren was getting those tosses
Starting point is 00:40:14 and they were meeting them at the one-yard line, it's real tough for us to sometimes get that one-yard. We got to be able to get those, you know what I'm saying, in these big games to be able to extend drives and be able to keep them going, not keep putting our defense back out there. they did a great job scoring four times in a row that was elite the defense did a good job or stopping them on first downs and being able to just execute but it was just that that fourth quarter was bad because it's like I know the bend but don't break but at the end of the day
Starting point is 00:40:40 that offense is oh we were ready for you they can't do they can't do nothing they shouldn't be able to just walk the ball down the field we got to not leave people open and you know what I'm saying I understand of keeping stuff in front of you check down check down they can methodly get three three you know what I'm saying but not 16 17 26 people being wide open like that is not what we need to do but that game was amazing I felt great as a
Starting point is 00:41:05 stillish fan because offense we know we're going to find your flow but game well Warren all the tightness fire move Washington a DK Metcalf when we do get the ball and spread it around and our running game is good and we're getting our players in space you know what I'm saying it's a good flow but we do
Starting point is 00:41:21 always have to make sure our running game is going they have to be worried about that the best drive was the five consistent runs we got six we got three we got a first game well he got four you know what saying when he wasn't supposed to get any and then he gives you 38 you know what I'm saying staying with it you know saying get sticks is what we got to do with it keep going stay with it you know what I'm saying and like off the offense three yards it's good not no zero we don't need any zeros we don't need any losses we get three we get four that's like we're ahead of the sticks and with the
Starting point is 00:41:53 Steelers if you can stay ahead of the sticks we keep our options open with the tight ends, being able to throw it to him, being able to get it to DK, being able to get it to Warren, being able to get it to gain well. We have a lot of options there. So, offense look good, defense, maintain that. You know what you can do. You know when you're in your assignment, when you, when queen, when queen, if the lineman has the gap, he can shoot that gap and then go do it.
Starting point is 00:42:16 We can do that all the time. Everybody get your stuff and now he's clean. Now he can go make a play. I ain't know life. So for me, this was the first time where I could sit down and look at the defense and know exactly what I was looking at. looking at and realize like, okay, this is what it is. That's what it is to where before you were sitting there guessing, like, who's supposed to be here? Who's supposed to be there? Like, how is this?
Starting point is 00:42:38 I'm like, oh, I can see this. Like, yeah, it's simple. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Recognition was easy. Like, it was so simple. Like, you know what I'm saying? And like you said, the fixes, just stay where you at. A lot of it was peekable. Yes. Yes. That's not your play to make. Stay where you're supposed to stay And then if As long as your partner do What he's supposed to do It's going to spill to either you or him
Starting point is 00:43:03 You'll be able to make that play The Calvary's coming Pursuit Run to the ball Calvary's coming Like you said that outside When the cornerbacks Keep them outside
Starting point is 00:43:11 Make him come inside Do you see Cam Hayward Running full speed Don't make him waste that energy If you want to do Get outside of all of us No Force him back inside
Starting point is 00:43:19 So he can get fumbed on Give Cam a reason To be running out there Because he's going to get on you Force him inside And I'm coming Full speed Queens coming full speed.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Offense running the ball effectively and continuing and sticking with it like down in and down out. You got Rogers out there. I think he's strung together 13 consecutive completions at one. Yes. You know what I'm saying? 85.2% like the second and highest in his career, dude. Pass rating 125. The highest has been all season.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Like, dude. He was comfortable. I'm liking where I see the offense. The office, two weeks. in a row. I'm liking, I'm liking where I see it off two weeks in a row. Two weeks in a row. Defense done went on head and dropped the numbers down, drop the numbers down. Drop the numbers.
Starting point is 00:44:05 You know, against, but we won, but the numbers was hella high. We don't drop the numbers down. We don't drop everything down. We don't drop anything down. Fourth quarter, I want to see better. That's not something you want to see on tape because people go start thinking, oh, okay, well, maybe this will work better. No, no, no, no. We don't need to put it out there, and we don't want them to think we're giving up late,
Starting point is 00:44:24 letting back or anything. And you catch that rock, I don't care three, four, five, six, eight yards, fire on them. Fire on them. He was doing a lot of pushing out of bounds at the end, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's who, oh, man. We was out, yeah. Just keep it like I said, man.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Block in, baby. Dauphin training at its best, you know? That boy, Dibo, you had to go to the head. Hey, you talk. Hey, listen, man, I'm going to tell you right now. They let you in dolphin training, that's the waters, you know what I'm saying? But next week. we lion tamers motherfucker
Starting point is 00:44:57 yeah that's gonna be now my dog now that's when we gotta come out and really and really show listen circus with it they call us the Pittsburgh Lion Tamer Stillers and I just made that up yeah you did on the spot you did that's what we do
Starting point is 00:45:20 all these animals to do we still us come on man men It's time What we look like Losing to some type of animal We're talking about Hey man What is you talking about
Starting point is 00:45:32 Debo Debo Debo Debo Debo Debo debo What we're not going to do though It's just we can't disrespect We can't disrespect the lines I ain't disrespecting the lines Because they got gib
Starting point is 00:45:41 They got gib I'm talking about us Yeah This is what we do We go Okay I got to get You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:45:47 Okay Hey Joe I got to get my You ain't got your orange on the day Don't be scared I got to get my Trag talk game right there Yeah
Starting point is 00:45:54 You ain't got orange on the day. Don't be scared. Speaking of orange on the day, your boy Miles Garrett, he, he tweaked this hip, but he said, hey, he playing through anything. You dagg on right, he is. Miles got, Miles got records to break and things to do. Hey, who he playing? Who y'all, who y'all got? Listen. So, next three games, we got the bills, Steelers, and bangles. Hey, don't even, hey.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Say, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. What did we give him last time? Listen, listen, listen. They haven't played the, we haven't played the bills yet. So Miles Garrett hasn't sacked Josh Allen, but Allen gave up 28s. He's been sacked 28 times this year, and Houston sacked them eight times in one game. Then we got the Steelers. When we went against the Steelers, guess how many sacks he had, Debo?
Starting point is 00:46:42 Zero, not one, okay? And that's what he go get when he sees again. And then, but he played the Bengals. But don't count on that. He played the Bengals. He played the Bengals. That was the first game of the season. and he popped off with two sacks.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Since the Steelers game, Debo, since the Steelers game, Miles has had seven games, and he's had 17 and a half sacks. He played the Dolphins got one, New England got five, Jets got one, Ravens got four,
Starting point is 00:47:09 Raiders got three, San Fran got one, Titans got one, and then the Bears just now got one and a half. So with that being said... Oh, you're saying he's going to break the record? Oh, with that being said,
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Starting point is 00:50:49 I'm asking you When you're saying He's going to break the sack record Next week The week, it ain't going to It ain't going to be the week after No no He's going to do it either next week
Starting point is 00:50:58 Or the last game of the season he's either going to do it versus the bills Okay well you need to realize Bill's bills or the bank He needed a sack just to tie it Yeah So he probably going to either sack Josh Allen twice
Starting point is 00:51:12 And he might just do You know what If he's going to do it this week He ain't got time to waste He ain't got time to waste He might start getting a little more jank Yeah yeah People things start getting a little weird
Starting point is 00:51:23 You know I know when he when he see them stillers That ain't going to be the game baby I'm going to tell you one He's going to try for it He's going to try it I mean, hey, he's going to try to break the record. Your eyes may shine and your teeth may grid,
Starting point is 00:51:37 but not a sack with you eat over here with this piss bird shit. You hear me? I like that rhyme. Yeah, you know, I knew I could do what I can do it, Joe. You got a little bar, Debo. That was actually pretty good. I got bars, you know what I say? I do a little so here, there, everywhere.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Do you think he's going to break the sack record, brother, Dibo? Yeah. Let me stop there. Let me be honest. Yeah, I'd be pleased. You got me up here like I'm talking crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You told him he needed to get six last game.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Hey, listen, I was disappointed that he didn't get six. That's what I'm saying. I'm like, disappointed that he didn't get sick, he let me down. Now he need one and a half in three games. And you were talking about which game he going to do it or Joe. I was like, hey, she probably next week. Listen, I'm going to tell you right now, he'd probably get it this week. And if he don't, he for sure go get her against the bankers.
Starting point is 00:52:28 I feel you, brother. Listen, man, I'm just saying, man, I just, you know, I'm just trying to keep it, you know, kind of like a, you know, a buck 10, something like that, you know, maybe a buck 50, you know. Zach Taylor said that there is zero consideration to sit, injury prone, Joe Burrow out for the final three games, despite the Bengals being eliminated from the playoffs. You think this is smart? Would you do it? What's your, what's your thought on this?
Starting point is 00:52:56 How hurt is he? he's not hurt they're saying he's just injury prone i mean if he's if he's if he's healthy i'm probably i'm going i'm going to play him especially like right now he hasn't been i want i want us to go into the offseason feeling good especially if you're healthy if you're not healthy if you can't play then don't play but if you're if you can play then i want to see what we got going on like trying to get the offense at least keep moving right into right direction you play last week you haven't been playing good you know i'm saying since you've been back and i love you Joe Burrow, but at the end of the day, you are, we are still paying you right now $60 million.
Starting point is 00:53:28 If you're hurt and you can't play, then we'll sit you down. But if you're able to go, then I need to have you out there and trying to do what we can do. That's how. What do you feel this, or how this plays into his comments he had about him not, you know, having fun, doing it, all the other stuff. The Bengals are cheap. The Bengals didn't even clear off the stands, you know what I'm saying? So they're like, look, brother, I don't give a dagger. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:53:53 We're paying you $60 million a year. So you're here, and we're going to have you under contract. So, bro, to get out of there, he might have to do some act like, look, I want out of here. I'm not happy. I'm not comfortable. And then Bengals either going to have you. Oh, okay. So I see where you're going.
Starting point is 00:54:08 You're saying he trying to get to where, like, yo, I need. But listen, he can't get, he can't just get out of there. He got two receivers over there that's adding a lot to it. And you've seen how it went when he only had one available last week. I'm going to tell you this. If he keeps getting hit upside the head and keeps getting hurt, that's not going to help him at all either. You can go somewhere with a good offensive line. You can be in a Jared golf situation where you got a nice offensive line, good running game, solid receivers.
Starting point is 00:54:32 I'll take St. Brown, you know what I'm saying, Williams. Well, maybe not just the Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, but you got a really good offensive line. You have a great running game behind you. You don't need as good as receivers if you're getting protected and you got more time to stand up there upright. So with Joe Burrow, I'm like, look, if I'm not getting protected. You know how much an offensive line will cost? I mean, they got money. Money.
Starting point is 00:54:53 They got money. They're going to figure it out. The Lions. Dude, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, they're not going to do what they got to do. Because they have to, they pay their off, they paid the receivers. They paid them people and they're not an organization knowing the, want to pay a lot of people. So, I mean, end of the day, they're going to have to draft well and get some people in free agency. But I don't think the Bengals are going to be able to do anything to make them relevant.
Starting point is 00:55:32 I mean, unless they protect your world. Joe, you just said they ain't even clean the seats off, bro. That's what I'm saying. So that's what Joe, they're going to have his rights. He's going to have to say something to the point of where he's really uncomfortable. It's going to put them in a situation where they just can't keep him. He's going to have to just be like, no, I want out of here. So what's the ticket for him, though?
Starting point is 00:55:52 What does it look like? I mean, what? Three. First, you giving up. Because you go, you giving up first. Probably, what is it, like three? Probably three. Yep, probably three.
Starting point is 00:56:09 I don't know. If you got like a, if you were. I think it might be a little more than that. You think I might be more than that? Okay. You got to add maybe a two in there with it or something, you know, maybe a player. It can't just give you all that. How many years have you?
Starting point is 00:56:22 got left under his contract because you're getting him with that plus years on the contract, right? You got Joe Burrow. Let me see. I know he's signed. I got to check his deal. I know it was a five year. Yeah. How long ago was that?
Starting point is 00:56:39 I don't know. I just I like rural, man. I don't see them. I don't see them allowing that to happen. If they do that man, they basically conceding that, okay, we're giving up. You can't.
Starting point is 00:56:59 I mean, that's for sure. I mean, you, that's, the thing that you want is a franchise quarterback, and they for sure have. Yes, you got it. So now you need to make sure he stands upright, but then at the same time, the defense winning, scoring 34 points and losing six games when you score 34, how, yes, 30 second defense, that's how. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:21 At some point, dude, I don't know At some point Something got to give Like something got to But that's the thing too Is it the players or it's the scheme I mean Them boys is
Starting point is 00:57:36 I don't know Dude how many years ago Was they was in Super Bowl Three Four? I don't know Four Three
Starting point is 00:57:45 Like it wasn't that long ago Bro Hot garbage Hot garbage 32nd and everything You can't win that way Debo Like it's hard to be 30 second and everything Run past
Starting point is 00:58:04 Like well if you do run past You're going to be total anyway But that's like trying to be first And everything Run past total It's hard Do you think As hard as it is to be excellent
Starting point is 00:58:16 It's hard to be that trash Yeah Do you think they should start them For the final three games if it's me, I'm starting because this is your job, this is what you This is, I mean, that's
Starting point is 00:58:28 Unless I'm scared that he's going to get, you know, hurt and I don't want to take the chance like Miles Garrett coming in and y'all don't plan on at least doubling and tripling him. It gets to the point where I mean,
Starting point is 00:58:48 at the end of the day, it's like, he just got back, dude. So it's like, does Jamar Chase, when you have the quarterbacks and you have your star players and it's really like, okay, so does Jamar Chase go play with just a backup quarterback because we think that he's going to get hurt and should Chase not play? Because he's making $30 million a year. And there's no point when the season, like, we're not going to be able to go to the playoffs for sure. If I'm the player, I'm playing. That's what I'm saying. If you're the player, like, that's what you, you would want to go play.
Starting point is 00:59:17 And I would think, if you're healthy, if you're healthy. I don't want you going out there like this. Nah, like, I really need two more weeks, but I'm trying to get out there because, like, I can make it happen. No, I don't want you out there, Joe Burrow. Then you're out there already, not 100%, and there's no reason for you to be out there playing for 100%. But if you're 100%, and you're going to the game
Starting point is 00:59:36 and you're just putting on street clothes because, nah, these three games don't mean nothing. You're still getting $60 million this year to play football games because that's your job. That's what you do. That's what you were hired to do, even because we still have three more games like that. Fans are coming to the games.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Like, it is still your job to finish out the season and go out there and put your best foot forward, in my opinion. If you're healthy, if you're hurt and you're trying to go out there and struggle and limping around, no, rest yourself. You know, get back to 100%. So that's kind of where I sit with that. If he's out there and, you know, he came back earlier hoping to be able to go in and do a playoff push and he's not really 100%, you know, then yeah, okay, I can see you going ahead and sitting him down so that you don't have to take any more, you know, attempts. of him actually going and, you know, re-injuring something because it's not fully healed anyway. He was just, you know, doing it so that he could get through, you know. Yeah, he knew you, you know, y'all had a better job push.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Yes. I understand that. But if I'm, I ain't going to lie to you, but if I'm able to play, I'm just, I'm playing. Like, well, I still playing. Like, I don't know, bro, I still got to play. Unless I can't play. I'm playing with a little hurt, little Andrew. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Nothing, you know, nothing that's surgical, you know. I'm going to play with a little pool of this, tweak that, as long as it ain't nothing that I could potentially put me out, out. If he redos that, what was his toe, that's out, out. Yeah. Then we saw nothing over, yeah, nothing lingering, man, once you be out there fresh, because at the end of the day, you are my franchise quarterback.
Starting point is 01:01:15 So I don't want to put you out there because we do next year. We're trying to retool. and like I you're going to be here so we know we need linemen we need defense I got to get some stuff to protect you I got an I know what we need for you because you're obviously not happy you know what I'm saying so I feel them for saying I'm not going to sit down Joe Burrow being healthy but just knowing y'all got this quarterback he's not happy with what's going on with the defense so just there's some stuff they got to get fixed over there I don't know if you figure out what's going on I think they might need to sit down talk to him you know have a real
Starting point is 01:01:46 conversation and you know and figure out what's going on he said i feel like he'll tell him it's personal is it's football you know it's combination of both well that hey man let's sit down talk to you let's see what's going on you know what i feel like he'll tell him i'm getting sacked a lot and our defense keeps giving up crazy amounts of points and i feel like we just this is hurting me that we can't like they can't close out the games all right brother we got some super chats though oh what is that sell more food donated 10 dollars 10 dollars thank you We appreciate it. They said, it's sweet up here in Cleveland.
Starting point is 01:02:18 I don't care what nobody say. All I know, the fans and all the haters got a dog bone in their mouth. Less F, no, LFG, dog pound. That's you. I don't care. But nobody says, all I know, the fans, haters got a dog bone in their mouth. Yeah. Respect.
Starting point is 01:02:42 That's why. I don't care about that. One thing about it. No, I know. Be quiet real quick, Debo, that's what a little Debo. Right here, we weren't talking to you. I kicked the shit on the phone.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Go ahead. That's the real fans. I know they got the dog bone in their mouth. That's why I love the land. I want us to get good, too. We're going to talk about it. We rocking. I'm rocking with the land also.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Thank you. Let's go with dog pound. Oh, Lord. Lord. Covenant of Life donated $100. Oh, God. Like, Covenant Light. Listen, man.
Starting point is 01:03:10 That's part of the show now, man. Covering in Life. I need you. Every episode, we got out of that Covenant Life, check on me. Listen, every day we go check in on Covenant Life, no matter what. It don't matter. Make sure, hey, make sure y'all check in on Covenant Life for us. Y'all can hear us talking.
Starting point is 01:03:28 We ain't talking to y'all, but we're talking to the people that's talking to us. You know what I'm saying? It says, first, where's the cigar? I was expecting that too. Right. You're right. I was expecting that too. So this is what had happened.
Starting point is 01:03:44 I was in a little bit of a rush, and my humidor is right there. And as I was sitting here thinking, it was a 15 seconds into the countdown. I didn't want to be running back with the cigar and not be able to do my introduction. But don't worry, I have it next week after retain the Lions, you know? And second, put Joe in with his helmet. Yeah, I was joking. I heard the ground crunching. I heard the ground crunching after Jailie Ramsey said sit your old when he pushed
Starting point is 01:04:28 down to him. I was down. D.K. Burger flipping my. Hey, man, what's this? This the new thing? Yeah, for the first down? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Is that? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know, man. Like, that's the new thing? I'm not, yeah, I'm not a fan of the dick of the nose one. But, you know, they can't, they can't, they say something, I can't wipe my nose. I guess I'm gonna dig it.
Starting point is 01:04:54 It's crazy. Yeah. F and R. What? Arthur Smith. What's what, what's up? EFF. What's that?
Starting point is 01:05:05 I mean, F you. I don't know. Yeah, I, F you. What Arthur Smith do? That's what I'm saying. baby Jesus cousin baby Jesus cousin can hit the center pass to 88
Starting point is 01:05:19 and get up stop hating on the stillies oh get up hating on us probably probably we have to check in on them you know you have to do something
Starting point is 01:05:33 make sure we check in on them nobody you know how it is Ebo nobody else they're not really believing they're not really believing in the stillers right now we got to show them consistency but I believe we know we could do it. All you got to do is go four and oh. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:05:48 When it matter, get into the dance. Listen, they go four and no. Listen, we, we're doing this right now. We incline. We're excelling. Uh-huh. We're going up. Yep.
Starting point is 01:05:57 We're going up. If y'all don't know where the incline is, come to Pittsburgh. That's all we do. We incline. Ride the incline. You go see what we're doing. Oh, my goodness. You go see what we're doing.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Offense, defense. that's what we're doing Michael what is it Hedegar donated $5 he said what's your reaction
Starting point is 01:06:22 when DK threw Mika out the club Hey listen I told you man He can't be doing that To you know I was That's somebody's child
Starting point is 01:06:31 I was mad Because I know how pissed Minka was And that's my good man And he's a baller I wish you would have been Anybody Did you see him
Starting point is 01:06:38 Try and come back To get him And then got blocked He got blocked That was the worst part when you're trying to go, that was the bad, that was the bad part. And you got it. The world wasn't it.
Starting point is 01:06:45 If you could have got back to him at least lay hands on him, you would have felt a little better. You would have felt like you got your get back. And now you're like, man, get out my way, man. Let me at least tackle him so I could get thrown and then tackle. But getting blocked was bad. I just felt bad for Mika. He Minka is a baller. You see how much love Minka got when he got hurt from everybody going out there.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Everybody, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, that's part of the game. You're out there with who this, man. Everybody going to get God. Listen, man, I got to go on here. and put these dick beaters on you. Ain't that what my daddy said. He said, I put these dick beaters on you, boy.
Starting point is 01:07:16 You know? Debo. He said, hey, he said, hey, he said, also, hey, that's my daddy, not me. Now, I listen to him. I know. I heard that one of the old. You know. But, hey.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Oh, my goodness. You brought out of the old. Hey, he also, he also said, he said, also, I feel like Kenny G needs more carriers to see if he can spark our rush attack. What's your opinion? I mean, I can respect it. I mean, I'm with it. I'm with it, I know Jalen be hitting the whole two, but I guess, like, listen.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Gamewell got crazy. Y'all, y'all don't realize, like, this is, you know, this is a give and take. Just because one person has a good game against this person, don't mean they go have that same game every time they get in there. You got to have both, you know what I'm saying? I ain't going to lie. They got a one-two punch over there in Detroit. Yep.
Starting point is 01:08:00 You know what I mean? Like, like with, I mean, I think both on down around 12. And, um, what's the dude's name? I can't think his name right now But I know Montgomery because he trains He trains in Arizona with me We had the same training And I ain't going to lie to you
Starting point is 01:08:17 Y'all better be ready to go on here Oh, you're talking about Montgomery and Gibbs Yeah, Gibbs, yes Yeah When we play them man They better be ready to go ahead And drop shoulder, body Everything on that dude man
Starting point is 01:08:29 Because he's looking for work He's looking for action That boy dead lived like 700 pounds dude Lower body out of control Yeah He ain't listen He ain't tall stashy, but dude got power, man.
Starting point is 01:08:41 I'm trying to tell you right now. He is not trying to duck no smoke. He's looking for all that. We got to be ready. I'm going to tell you what I'm saying about. My man with Warren and Gamewell, and we got 24 carries. I'm not mad at 12 and 12.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Let them, both of them dos, whatever. How are you going to do it? Both of them do, I feel like both of them need to be getting the ball. Because Warren is not, he's not playing either. He's running that thing coming down full speed, full tilt. and Gamewell, I love his change of pace, he got juke's and everything. So both of them need to begin, I think, around equal amount. If we carried 24, split it.
Starting point is 01:09:19 I don't know. You go, you know, switch them out, you know, you give it to the hot hand. The hot one, yes, yes. Give it to the hot hand, I believe, in like an even rotation. That way, you know, you don't have anybody feeling slighted. That's just how I do it, man. No, no, no, for sure, for sure. But when I say even, it means if buddy's hot, then this one he's going to get more.
Starting point is 01:09:39 And then if we... Nah, no, you got to rotate them, man, because you can have both of them high. There's been times where you see the boys over there in Detroit, they're both running for a buck and some change, you know what I'm saying? No, no, no, for sure, for sure. You know what I'm saying? So, hey, look here now.
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