Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - NFL Playoff REACTION: Pats stop Chargers, Eagles FLAME OUT vs. 49ers, Bills beat Jags

Episode Date: January 12, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as react to NFL Wild Card Playoff action where Drake Maye and the New England Patriots defeated Justin Herbert, and the Los Angeles Chargers, Brock Purdy and the San Francisco 49ers taking down Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles, Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills beating Trevor Lawrence and the Jacksonville Jaguars, and much more!  Timeline:00:00 - 49ers beat Eagles32:50 - Patriots beat Chargers40:30 - Bills beat Jaguars49:20 - Bears beat Packers53:25 - Steelers-Texans Wild Card Preview1:00:20 - Play or Fade Presented by PrizePicks (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm your host James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. How you doing today, Joe? Doing good, brother, Debo. You know, we got a big game ahead of us, so I'm excited. I'm hype.

I'm dressed for the occasion. I'm dressed for success. Yeah, I see you over there shining like a dime. You know what I can't hide that money. I won my good chain. I want my good chain. Oh, you got bad chains and good chains. I didn't even know that.

No, no, no, no. Quality over quantity. Only got two chains. Oh, you know what I'm saying? Only got two chains. Two chains. Only got two chains. I mean, how many, how many of them pieces you got right there, though?

That's a big giant 23 right there. I mean, what that is? They just want one good. 500, 150, 250, you know. You know, we're not going to talk about it. I ain't going to say, no, man. Look here, man, we had some real exciting games. I see why people like a lot of points, man.

I really do. I ain't going to lie to you. Come on. I see. It's exciting. Like I said, when you ain't got no horse in the fight, it's cool. When the points are being scored on you, it's easy. Or dog in the fight, I should say.

But yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it was kind of exciting. I ain't go lie. It was, you know, towards the end, it was starting to get, you know, especially with that other game with Buffalo and them. It was starting to get a little reckless, man. But let's go on over here, man. Start over here in San Francisco, man. Yes.

With the Eagles and the 49ers, man. Yes, yes, yes. They go on here. They get a ball. They start off with San Francisco getting them to rock, man. Second down in 11. Y, Purdy hits Robertson. That boy just cuts and weaves his way to what it was like 58, 60 yards, though.

Welcome to the game. Welcome to the 49ers. Yes. I do it. I thought he was about to take it to the house. I think they said he got more yards in that one quarter than he did all year. And he had this whole season. Yeah. That's the thing about the 49ers. We're going to talk about like with Shanahan, everybody, you know what I'm saying, stepping up.

Oh, yeah. They hold their best receiver, their boy, Iuke, he ain't been there all year. Yeah, no question. The next second down they ended up getting to McAfrey, he going ahead and climb the ladder right there and catch that thing for Purdy for. 11 yards. Yes. I think that put them at like a first and, what was it, first in five, first and 10 at the five-yard. First and goal at the five-yard line.

Yep. They end up scoring the following second down. Pretty hit that boy Robinson again. Two yards down. Great execution of the play calling. You know what I'm saying? He acts like he's blocking, blocking, and then running the bang. My man, the corner for the Eagles, loved him to death.

He ended up bawling. But that first series, he had a little bit of a time. He had a tough first drive. Yeah, for sure. The Eagles, they get a ball back to the Eagle. They kick it off to him. The Eagles said, you know, we're going to answer this thing. I think it was, what, 10 plays, about 65 yards or something for the touchdown of their own.

Second eight. That boy, say, Kwan said, hey, 29. Got missing. Got missing. Got missing. That was beautiful. Hey, I ain't going to lie, dude. They put that corner in a bad position because, listen.

I can't tell if he's supposed to actually be contained. or if he's supposed to roll inside because the end don't do nothing. He just buries his head and starts trying to push the tight end. For me, I'm thinking he was probably supposed to be inside of that and just couldn't get across the face

and was trying to close the gap. Yeah. So if the corner don't squat down to that, then he bounces through there anyway and probably gets the same amount of yards. You know what I'm saying? No, for sure. He was really stuck in a bad situation right there,

but he put you in a bad situation because that's, That's what Berkeley do. He put them boys in bad situations. Literally, bro. That one-on-one is going, you got to get them in the phone booth. If he got that much space, it would make you look crazy. Yes, you got to get him in the phone booth.

Got to get them in the phone booth. Second and five, they got to a second and five. Harts at AJ for his first catch. I think that was 10. Later on down the line, they get to the third down, third and three. And I think it was, who was it, 10? It was at the 10. And Berkeley, third and three, he picked up.

I think it was three yards on that. They ended up getting them a first down that bleed, a seven-yard line because they was already on the 10. They end up getting to another third down, third and one. And that dude, the tight end, Goddard? Yes. Gotter. Gotter?

Yes. He scores the touchdown. I'm thinking now, like, yo, we about to have one of these games where it's just, I'm going to be a big. Drive. Yeah, scoring looking right. Then, old boy, missed the extra point. So I'm like, all right, cool.

We got, we got. I stepped off. I walked off. I said, and I walk back, and I'm like, that's why I got to watch every single play. Because I'm like, babe, I just took it for granted that he was going, you know what I'm saying, half seven, you know what I'm, and I come back. I'm like, he missed the joint. He's looking crazy.

Dude, that's why they, that's why they made it a little bit longer, man, you know, to make you have to, you know, account for that. That little, you know, from right there from where you're at to moving them back, that ball get to move a little bit. You all the side? That weather was crazy. That wind was crazy. That wind was crazy out there.

Yeah. San Francisco get back out. there and the Eagles, they force them, they force them three and out, you know, with that nice, that nice pass break up by, I think it was Mitchell on that, uh, second of six wasn't? Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah, he had, he had tight coverage. Like, yeah.

He started after that first drive, and that's the thing about corners, you got to have that short-term memory. That first drive wasn't the best. They ended up scoring on my man, and he's an all pro. He's been balling all year. So him after that, strap down, lock up. So, yeah, congratulations. Good, good shit.

Hell, the next play, what was it? What was the dude? Jackson, he made sure tackling catch, no yak. Uh-huh. Made sure he held him short for that. I think he needed to. Actually, he ended up short three yards. They ended up punting the ball back over to Philly.

And the 49ers, they go ahead and they held Barkley. I think it was like just to a hot three yards on them first two plays. They gave him the rock. Got the third and seven. And Hertz hit, what is it, Lenore? Yep. Was it nine? The next play, I think it was AJ for eight.

Second down was incomplete. He got lucky that wasn't the interception, though. It wasn't a pick. Yeah. Where was he? I don't even know where he was throwing that to, dude. Like. They offense, man.

We're going to get into it. But it started looking real, it's real vanilla. It's real basic. Yeah. Third down, dude, that end made a nice play, dude. He did it perfectly how you're supposed to do it. Shuffle down to that thing. Read it.

Once you see the ball declare, either. get up to the quarterback or squat, squeeze down to the run. He made a great play. They get to a fourth down. And on fourth down, y'all, he got lucky. That wasn't a pick six. He got lucky that wasn't a pig six, bro. He just wanted to make sure he didn't catch it.

Dude, if he had, I don't think he was just trying to make sure he didn't care. I think he just got there and didn't really, yeah, I would say he got there and didn't realize he was going to get there as fast. It just went to knock it. They end up turning the ball over on downs. San Francisco get back out there. And Philly's defense, they stand up. They force them with three and out. Their defense didn't, like, they didn't just wet the bed.

You know what I'm saying? They was out there making plays. No, they was out there making real plays, bro. They forced them to punt the ball. And then they downed them inside the six, wasn't it? Yep. Yo, I couldn't believe. that they actually ended up going out there and doing what they did after that dude.

They put together 16 plays, 94 yards for a touchdown. I think they used up a little over nine minutes or close to nine minutes and went forward on what, two fourth downs. First down it was hurts to AJ for seven. I think the next played Barkley, he picked up the first with a nine-yard run, just, you know, carrying people with him right there. That was out of control. Hertz then hit Smith, I think, for nine.

Next play, give it right back to Barclay. Let him finish it off, pick it up the first for five yards. They end up getting to a third and nine. They get a false start. I'm thinking it's about to be an issue. They kick it back to a third and 14. Then Hertz hit Smith at 13. They get to the fourth and one.

Tush push that thing, of course. Yes. First down, I think Barclay only got about full. Then second down. They tried to hit him, I think, like a little swing pass out there, dude. And he goes off on the boy. He's doing a little hop.

See, everybody thinks the little hot was just show. That hot was his show. The hot was to give his dude time to get over there. He's setting up his block. I can see, yeah, so I can see what he'll do set up that block. He ain't out there playing, dude. No. You all think he's playing.

As soon as I hit this ground. Yes. As soon as I hit this ground, my dude will be here and he'll let me know where I need to go. Oh, they go 20 right there. He's reading block. They go 20 right there. And after he did that, Bartley went to the sideline. Hey, said, Bigsby, it's, hey, it's sweet out here.

Go get you some. Come get you some. Come get you some. And he said, hey, let me get on up out there, man. He said, the first one was just four yards on that first down. And second down, he went nine for that thing. He followed that by another seven on that next one. So, Qua, hey, hey, you tripping.

Come on, that's enough. Take me back in. Give me back in, bro. Give me it back. They went on head popping for a two-yard loss, though, that next, as soon as he got back in there. Yeah. The next play, I think he picked up three, so he got like two of it back again. Mm-hmm.

These boys go for it. Fourth and two. They on a nine, bro. And he hits who? Who hurt hit? They're tight in. God of the game. Nine-yard touchdown is 13 to 7.

San Francisco is now down. Mm-hmm. They're looking pretty good. Yeah. I ain't a lie. They kick the ball back off to him. They get out there and, dude, this is horrible. First down, he throws it to Kittle. Kittle gets six yards. I, I text you. As soon as he stepped down, I'm like, dude, he tore his Achilles, dude. I promise you, and I looked at my wife, I said, dang, baby, I think he tore as Achilles. She's like, how do you know, I'm like, because I've seen a lot of players and watched a lot of games.

And as soon as they go down, like, that's how it looks. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to, you know what I'm saying? But like, you know, when you know, you know. Oh, I saw her. That's exactly. You texted me. You saw the ripple. The ripple.

The ripple. Yeah. I'm like, you texted me. I was like, I just texted. I just told my lady, bro. So, yeah, that was sad to see, bro. Yeah, definitely sad to see, man. Hopefully, you know, he'll be able to get back from that and be able to make the full recovery.

And then I'm thinking, like, yo, this always happens to them, dude. They get guys hurt. And, you know, they've been hurt all year. You know what I'm saying? And now, I'm like, yo, this. I feel. feel bad for him. But the next play, that man, Pardy, he makes a dime throw, and he hits Jennings.

And Jennings takes that thing 45 yards to the Philly 26. Dude. Next play, Pardy to Caffrey, he hit, like, hot little six. Then third, what was it? Third down, a little rush by McCaffrey. They ended up being at a third and one. And I think Philly stopped him. for like a negative one or two yard loss.

They end up having to settle for the field goal. 10 to 13. Eagles get the rock back. First down. Barkley again for six. Second down. They threw that boy. Deep down to AJ.

Who you think? Dude, that was, I think it was just, it was, I think it was a little short, but I don't know if he. It was a little short. It was a little win, but like that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, That was probably the one one that was like the most difficult, I would say, out of all of the ball. Yeah, sure. Like, that was a little inside. Like, I can't, like, he's trying.

I did see his arms go a little short, but at the end of the day, it's hell of windy. It was really inside. It could have been a better ball where he had more of a chance. So that one's like, no, like, I can't blame him. That's not a drop at all. You know what I like? Yeah. Yeah, I would go with that too.

But the next one, after they get that far start, they got a fall start immediately after that. They end up going to third and nine from a third and four, which it would have been. and he goes back to AJ again, and he dropped this one. He got a hat out of him. And this one is the go ball? Yes. Yes. So when he even, and that is, on my opinion, still, that's still OPI.

You see, he grabs the corner of shoulders and throws him by, and then still gets able to get both offensive hands on that ball. So that's a drop. You got to catch that. They didn't give you nothing. Like, they gave you all authority that you still, you had the corner by the shoulders, threw him by, and then you got it. And he knew that, too.

So when he's on the way, he's like, ah, you know that one's on you. That's AJ. AJ, he believes he should have caught that one, too. So that was a drop straight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. They ended up having to punt the ball. Give it back to San Francisco. I think it was second down of that first,

when they first got the ball back, purty a sack. They put him to like a third and 11th. And he hits Robinson again for 15 and a first down, dude. On point. Robinson was looking like, he was out there just running. comeback routes, individuals just hitting him, him and Jennings, when they needed to, like, on point, Bob Purdy. I was like, and I wasn't expecting it because, like you said, they've been losing all of the number ones. It's Kyle out there scheming people open and his dudes making plays when they have to.

Yeah, for sure. They end up getting to, I think it was another third and Long and Purdy hit, what's the dude's the dude's, tongues, what's his name, dude? don't get me don't get me. They hit that boy for 14 in the first down. Okay. 30 and five. They run it.

But when Purdy runs it, he fumbles the thing out of bounds right at the end of the half. They got the second runoff, no timeouts left. They end up not getting anything from that. So the Eagles ended up starting

the second half. I think, yeah. First down, you give it through, You give it to Berkeley. Yeah. Give it to that man, Berkeley. Please.

He's going on here. He gets a high eight. But then they dropped him for a loss, so one on second down. And then third down, he dropped the little dump pass from Hertz. So they end up having to punt the ball. Ready to make a move before,

before he made a- Dude, he had it. He was ready to get his hands and he was looking up to see what I can do. What I'm going to do to me? He was playing the dead leg, buddy. Yes. Yes, yes, man.

They punt the ball. And for the life of me, bro, I cannot understand why this returner backed up as far as he backed up to fair catch that ball. Debo, can I please say the same thing? I was screaming at the TV and my wife and kid looked over me like, what's wrong with you? I'm like, what are you doing? What are you doing? You set your toes right? You're literally doing their job.

They would want to go back there. Set your heels at the 10. and if it goes over your head, then that's when you start running away and trying to fake people out. Dude, fake it, yes. So then they can't. Make like it shorter run up like you kind of get it. At the five-yard line. You literally fielded it like a professional, like you were a gunner at the four-yard line.

That's terrible. You know what I'm saying? As a returner, what are you doing? You're putting yourself in position to lose. You could have to get the ball after 20-yard line and you're fair catching the damn ball at the four. I was so mad when I watched it. Like, it couldn't get no word. It couldn't get no worse, except if he put his heels at the goal line. Put his heels at the goal line.

Like, what is you trying to do? Get him as well-up. That's what he's possible. With his heels at the goal line, he made his mind up. He was going to catch that son, man. I'm going to catch it regardless. But then to fair, catch it like, I can see if you had some open grass, you're waving your hand, backing up further and further. So yeah, Debo, thank you for pointing that out because that pissed me off. Yeah. So first down, purdy, he gone ahead and scrambled for a hot six. Second down, they end up getting the first. because they get illegal hands. They end up getting to a second and long,

what was the second of ten? Who they, who purdy find? Who he found? Robinson. He finds Robinson for 14 in the first down. And immediately, immediately, he goes and gets picked off. They at the, what, 46 of Sanfran right there?

Dude. And I'm like, Okay, this is where it's about to get a little interesting. And the Eagles would do absolutely nothing with it. 49ers would stand up, screying out, do what they got to do, get a thing back to San Francisco. Now they're doing a little bit of fighting now. Eagles defense said, we could play defense too,

because we've been playing defense all night. And out, they punt the ball. he only gets 25 yards on the point. How do you do that? This is McShanker. McShanker, that's what I'm going to call the Debo. McShanker, okay. So a lot of the Eagles got a short field, baby.

There's an opportunity for him to do something with it. Mm-hmm. And they get 23 yards out of it on 10 plays. and have to settle for a field goal, bro. Three of the plays was negative rushing plays, bro. They had one play that was actually nine yards, so the rest of them, I don't even know what they were doing. They get the field goal.

They're tripping, but they ain't tripping. What is it? 16 to 10 now. San Francisco, get back out there. And first down, he, what the freak does that name say? Sajuka? What the Debo, I'm not the best

with names even. Oh my God. Dude, he hit old boy for 27, okay? I'm just going to go with that. Yeah, oh, boy. There we go. Okay? Yes.

Okay. And it's the tidying in 44. That's who it is, bro. But he tried to put that boy to sleep. He tried, who was the dude that tackled him? What's the DB name? What the DB name? name in 33. What's the boy, the white boy? What's his name is? DeJone. One of them.

It's two of them over there, ain't it? Yes. It's black, black and black of shit? One of the white boys over there, man. Black and DeJon. He was, he was, bro, he was committing some, he was trying to commit some, some white on white crime right there, man. They are, he's, I, I like the way they play, D'bo. I like the way they play. Oh, no question. They be out there during trying to smack. No question, bro. They end up getting to a third. Heard and one, of course, Purdy sneaks it for the first down. And the next play, Jennings, I ain't know he had that any. He goes head and he drops one over the shoulder to McCaffrey.

That's when you go. 29-yard, dime. That's what I'm talking about. That's play calling, and they were saying that Jennings was a high school quarterback, but he threw a dot and McCaffery with the skills to be able to find a joint, over the shoulder. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's like wide receiver skills.

Yes. Place the ball, find the ball over your shoulder, catch it. Touchdown. Touchdown. Now, 17 to 16. Ties then turned a little bit. Eagles get the rock back. 49ers, force a three and nine.

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Follow Sacred Lessons with Mike Delo Rocha and start listening on the free IHeart radio app today. It's a beholding penalty on the first down that put them at a first in 20. San Francisco get the ball right back. They come off and think they completed like maybe one first down and the following first down. Listen, Purdy is a gunslinger, and gunslingers, they get shot and he gets picked again. But for me on this one, bro,

I understand the DB made a nice play. Yes. But that tight end, dude, he was drifting back cutting. Like, you got to come down on that cut. No, no, no. You got to close down on the ball. For sure, for sure, for sure. You got to come towards the ball.

But then that's a tight end on a number one all-pro cornerback. Cornerbacks is going to bait that because, like, you just wait. Yeah, but the route is better. He gives at least a chance to break it up. No, I understand. He needs to be coming downhill instead of floating like he's going up the field and allow him to get him. I'm with you a thousand percent. But I feel like that DB, he's baiting him.

And then he's do let Bertie throw that underneath. If you're going to throw it, throw a higher. So if he goes underneath, it's going to be incomplete. or nobody's going to catch it. Don't throw a little low, like a flat ball. This is the second time he didn't turn the rock over. Eagles get the ball again and settle for a field goal. I think it was eight plays, 50 yards, 47 yards, something like that.

And that was with the help of a roughing that was weak. Dude, that ruffing call was weak. I think so. Yeah. Because he was like they didn't hit him with the helmet or nothing. And he slid late. He slid late They keep doing that

Yeah it's good night Like when he slide late like that dude You go You gonna get a little something It's like you're trying to Yeah Unless he really fums you Then all right

Like You're gonna Get down Yeah Get down Dude you don't want to have Like They're right over top of him

And they just dropping down Like what I don't know What you want them to do Yeah They go up 17 to 19 And San Francisco

said Hold up man Listen, we're going to answer this. They come right back out there. 10 plays, 66 yards. Touchdown. I think they used up a little over five minutes. First play, Purdy, took that tight end for six yards.

Yeah. I got to figure out what his name is, how do you pronounce that? They got to be rushing or something, man. Like, I don't even know. I don't know what it is, man. Second down, Purdy, I think he scrambled for five and put his head down. He said, it's now or never. Now or never.

If I get put to sleep, then let somebody else come in here, I just need to be able to play next week. Yes. The next play, Purdy is that man, Robinson again, for 16 yards. Beautiful. Second down. 10, it's long, second and long. Pretty two McAfric. 11. Nice. Nice.

Everything about that play was nice. Again, they get to a second and six. Purdy is sacked, bro. It's looking bad, but the defense, they got a holding call on them. Now it is first down in 10 at the 20. Shot yourself in the foot. Shot yourself in the foot. You give it.

giving it away and Macfrey says just handed to me one time. He went 10 for that one. Now I was first in gold at the 10. They do what they can to try and slow it down a little bit. They get to a third down and in goal and party hits who. Guess who he is? They said we're going to change it up. We know usually bop out here to to the flag. Hit that dig back inside. Four yard touchdown. Play caller.

Play calling. Play calling. Play calling. They go. Now, they go and miss the extra point. It really didn't matter. Rather they made the extra point and missed the extra point. Four points versus five points.

They still need to score a touchdown. To win. You still can't, you can't be missing an extra point, man. That's supposed to be to give me. Mm-hmm. It's supposed to give me. Eagles getting the ball back. I think it was like almost three minutes left.

they get to a I think it was that third and five where AJ dropped that ball that would have been a first down because they ended up having to go for it on the fourth down and five after that. Yeah. He hits on the fourth and five.

He hit your boy again. Got her for 15. On that overall good ball. Yes. Where he was able to catch it on the run. Yeah. Then he went back to back. plays to Smith. I think it was 10 on the first one, 15 on the next one. They had the San Francisco

20-yard line. They always, they've been stalling out all day anyway. Like, first down, he gets sat. If he had got loose from that, bro, I think that would have put him in a far greater position to be able to win this thing. Second down, like, I don't know, like, what do you you think he just kind of took off too fast on that one? I don't know. Which? The second down? No.

Dude, the pocket was still kind of tight. Like, looking back at it, I'm looking at it. I'm agreeing with the announcement. I'm like the pocket was still kind of tight. He just took off a bottle there. Took a bar. It just slung that thing. Just slung that thing.

Third down, he threw on the smith. It was a little high. But even, I think even if he catch that when dude, hit him in. You ain't going to hold on to it. Yeah, for sure. That one was a little high. Yeah, he ain't holding on to that.

And this fourth down came on the line, Kendris makes the play. They run in basic plays, the same plays over and over again. That's just seam routes, though. Like, he's just trying to bend it, bend seam routes but outside running goals. They just running four verticals. Like, there's no creativity.

Oh, zero. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. If they ran the ball more, I think they might have been okay. But what hurts had, dude? Like, I mean, when you go back and you look at it, San Francisco's defense just stood up when they had to, dude.

They closed the game out at the end. They held hurts to, what, 168 yards, one touchdown. Like, the offense, like, turned the ball over twice, and the defense only, like, gave up, what was it, three points on that? Uh-huh. Like, the 49ers offense, they came up big in the fourth, dude. The Eagles, dude, they just couldn't sustain drives in the red zone, bro. They dropped passes.

Like, dude, that could have, you, like, really changed the outcome of the game. Uh-huh. And when, you know, you get opportunities like that, bruh, and you get fewer opportunities any way, your opportunities are few, you can't miss on those plays, dude. The Eagles had four drops on third down. That's more drops than they had in any regular season. And it was the most, I think, in playoffs, they said since ESPN started tracking the stat in 2006.

Like, the defense did what they could do. Like, at some point. The Eagles defense did what they had. had to do. They held them. They made turnovers. My man, Quinn, Quinton-Michael made two interceptions, you know what I'm saying, getting the ball back to them. They had plenty of opportunities. And like you say, you're talking about the drop balls. We're talking about just the basic, I'm looking at the concepts too. Like when I look at the 49ers, Kyle Shanahan, with the lack of, when we talk about like names out there, my man, the Jennings, you know what I'm saying?

Kittles gone. They're a star receiver that's making $35 million. dollars has it showed up but they're able to like use use christian mcalfrey and get him open in every single situation they can scheme him open to run right cap capri is a different player dude that that's every down that dude that dude can catch the ball he can run the ball and i ain't saying just like catch normal we just we just over the shoulder smooth no no i i feel it but they only they say they only have they have that eagles have sayquan barkley i'm not saying he's he can do he can catch out the back field you can You can run routes with him.

You can get him the ball. And then on the outside, they have J. Smith and A.J. Brown. They got Jennings. And my other man, five, I was out there bawling. So I'm like, with the athletes that the Eagles have, I say that they're underperforming compared to when I see the 49ers and Brock Purdy out there, being able to dip dive, being able to get people open, Christian McCaffrey, catching out of the backfield, being

able to run the ball, all of that stuff. I'm just looking at their scheme and the way that they're moving. Like both defenses, they played great. They only scored 23. So, Brock Purdy, they weren't just, his numbers weren't outrageous. You know what I'm saying? He still had two interceptions. They had turnovers.

So they didn't just, like, crush the Eagles. It wasn't just like a terrible, terrible game. I ain't go lie, too. I kind of count on Purdy to get an interceptionary game, dude. I ain't a lot. He just, I don't know why. I feel like he's going to make up from it. But if that defense don't stand up, then, yeah, it can be an issue.

But I just feel like, he's going to throw a pick every game. With all that said about the Eagles, like, who do you think is the blame? Like, is it the players? Is it the coaches? Who do you think is the blame for this? I think there's blame that can go around. Everybody can get some. Players can get blame for AJ Brown dropping those passes that he could have caught. Coaches and coordinators can get blamed for running vanilla plays and just making it be one-on-one. You got to beat your man every time and never really scheming anybody open. There can be plays where, come on, coach, it's chestnut checkers. You've got to be setting stuff up,

running motions. We're running something to set up something. I don't see that with the Eagles. I see them lining up and just doing what they got to do. That's good and all dandy. Like last year, they were just able to outman people and just beat them because we're better than you.

But when you can start scheming people open, also with the talent that you have, that's better than other people, that's going to make it a whole lot easier. And that's what I look at the 49ers is where they're scheming people open and they're doing stuff. So you got to make those plays,

AJ Brown, like the ones that he did drop, the dig that he dropped. And the other one, the one that was overthrown, I don't know, whatever, but those plays you do have to make. And coaches, you can do a way better job of making it easy for us to make plays and get things going. So there's blame to be handed around on both sides of the ball. And I think it's mainly for sure with the Eagles on the offensive side of the ball. Because defense, y'all stood up, y'all hooped, y'all ball, certain plays, like, it is what it is. You are playing against a great team.

You are getting scheme. They are running things to get people open. So y'all fought. You all turn the ball back over. You're able to make turnovers. So boom, I'm not going to just say, boom, that y'all lost the game because of you guys. I think on this one, it's been the whole season. Offense has been able to – you say, oh, no, we're able to still win, but you look crazy.

Somehow you're able to get it done, whatever. But when you can't in the playoffs, when you need it, now you look crazy. So I say I'm blaming it mostly on the offense. A.J. Brown, you got to make those plays. But schematically, too, you can do a way better job, putting them in position to win. Yeah, yeah, for sure. You think the Eagles make any changes in the offseason? But show, offensive coordinator, 1,000 percent, and I think AJ Brown, he wants to be gone.

And I think that they're ready now for him to be gone, too, because you only can tolerate as much as if you're hooping. If he were to call all those passes, then everything, nobody can't be. But when you drop in it now, you're still making 35, you're the guy, you're saying anything. Now we got to part ways. Like, you still do. Right. I'm not getting the ball.

I'm not getting the ball. where they give you the ball and you start dropping it, then what, you know. Tolerating, you catching all of them joints and nothing hit the ground, nobody's saying a word. Not a word. It is what it is. Like, you know what I'm saying? But now I don't think the vibes like coaching them, him and coach on the sideline,

they're not getting along. And they're only going to tolerate you when you're really just, there's no, there's no balls touching the ground. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. For sure, dude. Slide on over here to the Patriots, man. Yes, sir, yes, sir.

The Patriots, you know, that. They kind of whipped on the charges. And it was only 16 to 3, but it was still a whooping dude. I ain't going to lie, bro. I really thought San Diego could give us a chance, man. Los Angeles. I was sorry. Yeah.

I really thought Los Angeles could give us a chance. The charges, man. I really thought they could give us a chance. I was ruling for him, Debo. Yeah, I was rooting for him, man. Like, because that means after we win this game, we got to go somewhere. And I don't like us leaving the house right now. I ain't go lie to you, man.

I respect. I respect it. I respect it. What really put me in doubt, dude, is when they got the I&T, bro. And they're sitting right there. At the 10. Bro. Off the rip. And you're going to come away with Nathan?

Well, you get eggnog. Nathan. You're baking, Debo. And listen, it's free. Listen, I played over there in New England, man. Some home cooking over there, man. I'm looking at a play, man, on a jumbo trine. I never forget it, man.

I'm like, oh, oh, we caught. They got us. And the refs call it the total opposite way, bro. And I look over it and I'm like, what? He's like, yeah, we in New England. I'm like, oh, no. No, they were like, dude, I ain't lying, man. What are the players?

But it was like, it was like joking, you know what I'm saying? But I'm like, bro. Let's get them vows out of here. Half time, it was, what, just three to six. It should have been three to three. Yeah. Worse, you know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying, both.

hit, pop across Herbic's head. That's what I'm... They let that go. What made me happy was when you said it's halftime, the Chargers defense, the Patriots didn't just run it up. It's not like it was a crazy high-scoring game. Yeah, they went on ahead and got the extra three points at the end because they let old Drake May scramble for 37 right there.

Yeah, he did. Yeah. Yeah. After that, dude, like, I think New England. They scored, what, the touchdown in the fourth quarter with, he hit Henry. I think it was with just under, what, 10 minutes left in the fourth. That was 13 to 3. And for me right there, dude, I'm like, it's over with, dude.

Oh, yeah. Because from the way that the Patriots defense was bawling the entire game. They started feasting after that. They started feasting after that. And then my man was out there with the box, like his hand looks humongous. Like he's out of the gym, the big hand looking at his sleeve, and then they got the smack in them and hitting them all hard. So he was getting beat up all game.

And then to the end, I'm like, when they hit him on that last one. Touchdown, bro. Man, Herbert was just scrambling for his life. Life. Nobody was open. Nobody was open. And the Patriots defense was feasting from the first snap of the game to, like, you said, when they didn't get zero points.

Listen, Joe, Joe, the fourth quarter, bro, they, they sacked him six times. They sacked him three of those in the fourth quarter with a fumble recovery, with a fumble that they recovered. Like, ah, bro. Yeah, they was beating a lot. The fourth quarter alone, dude, that was just with the ten minutes left, bro. They bombed on him. Yeah.

And they was firing off on two sweet, man. They was firing off on him, too. Clean good hits. No, clean his, man. Clean safe hits. No fine. know nothing. Dude.

Like, New England real, bro. Like, I ain't go lie, bro. I didn't see them holding Herbert to 159 yards passing, bro. I ain't go lie.

I ain't see that. And the crazy thing is he led them in Russia too with 50 seconds because man was running for his life all night. No, that's what I'm saying. A man were running for his life

all night, bro. He was, bro. I felt bad for the man, bro. Every time he was getting... Hey, I ain't lie. I'm like, I'm like, it was a couple of times.

I'm like, just don't get up, bro. I know I can see you can't get up, but just don't throw your hand up there to get them to help you up, bro. Man, and took it. Hey, like they said. The last one, he wanted to stay down. When they double Samuelson.

Like he told him in life, Eddie Murphy, after he whipped on Eddie Murphy, he said, hey, man, it took enough of it would be, carrying him on in a house, gold, ma. Bro, New England is real, bro. Like, like, like, listen, they can, they can stop that,

that BS about, they ain't played nobody and all that other stuff, bruh, they just played a good team, a good defense, bro. They don't reload it, man. They got the coach that they needed, man. They put the people in position. He put the people in position. The guys that, the coaches that he needed to coach the guys,

he drafted a whole bunch of guys, dude. The defense held L.A. to, what is it, 207 yards total? Three points. Sacked up boy of Herbik six times. Like, dude. Yep, yep, exactly. No, they're 14. Offense, defense, special teams, well coached.

I was just glad, though. I saw that they only scored 16 points, so the charges didn't get, they weren't just running down the field. The defense was out of control for New England, bro. They held the charges to one or 10 on third down, Joe. I understand that. That's reckless.

I understand that. I understand that. But that offensive line, they was looking crazy out there. Dude, because we got to play in them. 268 passing and another 66 rushing, which helped extend a whole bunch of plays, got them three points off the hit. Listen. You boys are reloaded over there, man.

I hate it. I hate it also. No, you don't because you want. Yes, I do. You want a hardball to go to Cleveland. No, you don't. What are you talking about? Man, listen, I don't, listen, man, things off my head when you make like you're with me,

us. You know it. Stillers. It make me, who. I'm just trying to, yeah. Yeah, you got to be able to compartmentalize, Devo. Compartmentalize, okay. Compartmentalize that sometimes you go be, you go be, you know, what you go be.

Compartmentalize that, huh? Uh-huh. Yeah. Man, let's go on over here to this Bill's Jazz game, man. This right here is the one that I was like, I was like, yo, it's cool. Because it was a fight all the way until they get. Man, let's jump on into the fourth quarter, man.

Yes. Let's jump into the end of the third. I think it was that, I think it was Jacksonville. They had the ball with like little under over three, four minutes left in the third. And I think it was 13 to 10 at that point. And Jacksonville had the ball at like the 38 after a short point. Not I think about it, bro. It was a, they had another short point.

I think the first two plays, E.T.A. They just call it ATA. I think he hit for six. Third down and four. Lawrence hits Thomas for 18. Then again, they run the ball the first two plays, get to a third and two. Lawrence then hits Washington for 14 in the first down. They end up getting to a third and one at the top of the fourth.

quarterback sneak, put it down at the five-yard line, second down, six, was it? Second down to six. Lawrence Hill, Washington, six-yard touchdown, 13, 17. I ain't knowing that this is about to keep going back and forth to the game over with. I'm like, ooh. I ain't going to lie. I thought the Jazz is going to win before the game started. You thought there was going to win before the game started?

Yeah, I finally, I thought it was going to happen. You thought it was going to happen. You know who they was playing? Man, listen, I had to go. I had to see you. Them boys like to be down, it seems like to me. Look, yeah. They don't wake up till they get down, man.

Buffalo get back right back out there after they scored. They down 17, 13. They went nine plays, 65 yards. Touchdown. Mm-hmm. First play, Cooks hit them for a hot six. They ended up getting to like a third and four. Allen hit a Kincaid for seven.

The next place. The next place, it was Allen to Knox for like 24, 25. Mm-hmm. Second and long, it's Allen to secure for what? Yes. Third down. Undesstated. Alan scrambles for six.

But they look at that thing, they review that thing they call it short. Four, down, and one. Big body. Porteback sneak that thing for a hot foe. Yeah. Hot fault. That's a big man. from the 15

it's Alan to Kincaid off on the left side 15 yard touchdown 20 to 17 did you still think at that point that Jacksonville was going to win

yes well you was kind of right because they ended up coming back out that thing going 10 plays 77 yards for a touchdown I think it was the second to 10 Lawrence hit 18 and he was like 14

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They had to Buffalo, what, 25 then? They end up converting another first down to the, what, maybe 14, 15 yard line, something like that. And then Lawrence is 18 for 14. Yep. I ain't go lie. Break tackle, touchdown. Now what you was thinking. Right here, I'm thinking, I don't know.

I ain't going to lie to you right here. I'm thinking they scored too early. And this is what the one. taking the bills were going. Hey, and then I had to look at the clock. That's what I'm honestly thinking in my heart. Right. I'm like, yep. I'm like, yep.

Now I said, oh, yo, loud out. They ain't going to head get the ball. They sitting around what was it, 35, 34 when they get the ball. First down. Allen hit one to Shakir for a hot eight. Third and one. Alan said, yo, I'm going ahead pick up the first down. Next play.

Allen hits my guy. My guy. Cooks. Where's up? Boy, I played with Cooks over there in New England, man. He got put the sleep, though, in that game. If they put my boy to sleep, though, we was going to dog walk him, though. They put my boy to sleep, though, okay?

But he picked up 36 right there. On this play right here, we're my man. I love him. My man, Newsom is sitting in the cover three. He's like, he's trying to jump the out route. You just got to stay high on that. Like, he's running. Don't try to be nosy.

You know what I'm saying? He was nosy. He, I'm like, why is he wide open? That's like a cover three wide open right there. So we got to stay high or low. Got to stay high to low there for Jacksonville. Yeah, he pick up 36. We have the 20 now to Jags, man.

Okay. This is where it gets crazy for me too again. This is get crazy. I don't even give a damn what happened to the first three page. We get to the fourth and one, okay? At the seven-yard line, right? Yes. They literally carry this man off of his feet for three to five years.

yards, bro. His feet is in the air. His feet was in the air for four to five, probably five yards. Dude, his feet was in the air, three to five yards, period. I mean, not touching the ground they were carrying him. Yeah, yeah. He hits the ground. Now they push him an additional four to seven yards,

five to seven yards. Yes. They end up first down in gold. From the inch. One, bro. From the 11 yard line. Br, they go outlaw this tush push. They are about to outlaw this tush.

Because at the same time now, the defensive players, when I saw the Jacksonville, buddy, my man, the DB, number 30, he turned around and, like, was like running back towards the goal. And the play was over, and while he's getting lifted up and drag. So you can't.

And you can't, remember, you can't submarine and dive in. You can't jump into the pile. So now I'm like, just what you wanted to do, start tackling the offensive tackle. So because he's the one, Josh Allen's feet are off the ground. So now I've got to go tackle the guard. So then both of them end up going on to the ground?

It looked, yeah, that looked crazy. Like, dude, if that's the case, I ought to be able to, if I catch a dude in the air and he had the numbers and I catch him right here, I should be able to carry him all the way to the sideline and throw him out. And long as his feet don't touch the ground, that should be incomplete. Nope. For real. Like, what's going on? For real, though, Deepo, yes. Nine total, you know?

Yes. Man, listen, they end up going in there, get the touchdown, 27, 24. Jack, get the ball back. Now I knew the game was over. Of course. The first play was over. My man. You have a chance.

O.G. O.G. White. Tradavius White. Great coverage. Just hanging there right on time. He had the backhand. Not even grabbing. No grabbing.

It's just right here just a case. But I'm going to hit the ball with my left hand, and I'm going to have you nice and just in case. Cliff Paul. Game over, baby. Game. Game. Listen, they ain't do nothing wrong, man.

They just ain't do enough. Right. They just ain't had, they just ain't have enough right, I guess. Yes. They didn't do nothing wrong. You just ain't doing it. A couple of little bad plays, a couple of little ones that they could have back. The big, the big one that, just the bomb.

The bomb there, a couple of little plays. They didn't have back, man. You know, four. quarter, you know, you got to close it out. You got to stand up. You know, when it came down to it, Buffalo's defense, close it out at the end. I mean, it wasn't that much time left either, but they still went on head and got the ball back, could kneel that thing out. And, you know, and keep it going.

That's game, man. That's game. It's okay, man. Ain't nothing wrong with it. Mm-hmm. Ain't nothing wrong with it. You're going to see Buffalo did good, man. And Josh Island, hooped, was able to get, he got the, you got cook.

He got his wide receivers. I mean, Coleman made some good play. I seen Keon Coleman was out there. He got some really nice tightness. So, yeah, if he keeps, he's going to have to play at a high level. And now, Mahomes isn't in it. Lamar's in it. He's one of the best quarterbacks in the joints.

Yeah, yeah. Hopefully he can go out there and do it. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. For sure. So I'm assuming that they're ending up going to, they'll go to Denver, right? Yep. Yeah.

Damn, man. Man, we got to win this game, bro. We got to win this game. We have to win this game. Speaking of winning this game, man, the Bears had to win that game. Oh, my God. The Bears won that game. I don't even know if the Bears won that game

as so much as the Packers lost it, dude. Like, it's, what was it, 23 at half time? 213, bro. The Bears, dude. It was 21, 6 and the 4. No, Green Bay. Come out in the second half. and they sold on everything.

Offense, defense, special teams. Offense made like they ain't know how to pick up nobody, how to do anything with the pressure. They couldn't convert on third down. I think they was two or eight on third down. They started the second half, O for four in the first four drives, to start the second half, dude.

Nothing. Dude, they got to Chicago 21 and got zero points because the special team sold. they missed the field goal. Mm-hmm. Wendy C. Boy, love out there just throwing picks all game. The defense, man, they make, man, they couldn't stop a nosebleed.

They let them boys score five or six of the possesses they had in the second half. Mm-hmm. They didn't even, they couldn't even do. They couldn't even get enough pressure just to try and close it out at the end. They had Mr. Limus, Mr. Simons, out leveraged, out-hmm, everything. Yeah. Out-coached. Yes.

It looked like somebody. went in there and made adjustments and somebody else didn't yep somebody kept the status quo and somebody didn't like you didn't think they was going to come out and try and change something do something and then you should tell them hey we're doing this right now we go keep doing this until they adjust to it and when they do this is going to be the plan we go go with they obviously wasn't told that nope I don't I don't I don't think they was told that who fault is that you who fault is that job Who fought is that? You think, you think, you think Lefior, Lefleur should be,

answering some questions? He should be definitely answering some questions. Because Joe is not supposed to be up 21 to 3 at halftime and 21 to 6 going in the fourth quarter and lose the game at all. You know what I'm saying? You have your ballers out there. You have Jordan Love. You have your running back.

You have your receivers. There's no reason why, like, just being able to extend drives. We're not actually going to go score touchdowns every drive, but you have a lead by two, two and a big lead. You have to be able to sustain that. It was 15 in the fourth. Your defense is out there selling fourth downs. So that Caleb Williams scrambled to the side on fourth and nine,

that throw was unbelievable. But you got to make those plays. So I think the Bears going out there with their coaching staff, being able to put them in positions. Hey, bro. They were selling like it was Black Friday. They was out there selling. It was selling like it was Black Friday.

Everything was 50% off. Come on, man. The floor won't have to answer your question. Hey, but hey, look here, man. Go ahead. According to ESPN, okay, it's a report this morning that the Packers are expected to work out a deal to retain LaFloor. Yes. Well.

Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. It's interesting. I just, you know. If he's going, if he's in the open market, If he's going to the hardball, I'll take him. You'll take anybody right now, Joe. I'd rather y'all take him than hardball.

No, obviously, obviously. But I'm saying that'll be my second candidate. I don't think he's a, I don't think he's a bad coach. But that was not, that was that performance right there, lets me know he has more of many. He got more, he got more bad than him. He got, hey, if you did it once, you could do it again. You as good as your last performance.

Hey. My man Debo telling him. Hey, no question. You only, hey. It's playoff time now. You ain't line? That's the last thing they go remember. Yep.

That's a big one. Okay. Speaking of playoff time. You know what time it is. Still us. Go on head playing that home against the Texans. Look here. Let me, let me, Joe, Joe, let me tell you what need to be down here.

Man, I'm just going to get a quick, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Joe. Let him know, let him know. It's simple. Offense, run the ball successfully. And I'm not talking five, six, seven. Listen, three, four yards. Mm-hmm.

That is successful against this defense, okay? We need to add the little quick game, pass, run alternatives that add to the run game. So we can stay ahead of the change, Joe. Yes. We got to stay. We have to. Third and long situations, Joe. Correct.

Which will help minimize them two dudes over there, Hunter, and Anderson. Great players. We have to protect Rogers. At all cause. We cannot commit zero. Turnovers. Zero. Now, defense, we cannot allow Houston.

to run the ball with any kind of success, point blank, period, we have to be great tacklers, especially when they pass and they do the same stuff. We do short passes. They account for the yak. They want the yak, okay? They want the yak. We have to be great passers. I mean, great tacklers, okay?

Yes, yes, yes. Now, that gets them to where they're in those passing situations. Yes. A. C.J. is not a outdoor quarterback. He plays indoors. The weather should be an issue for him.

And with the pressure and the sacks that we need to get on him, we cannot get those if we lose contained. We have to keep contained. And what's the dude's name? the backup meals. I'm hearing he didn't travel with them. I'm hearing he had something going on that he didn't travel with the team.

So we get a chance to get a clean, clean one as he's trying to ease his way out of bounds, but he still got that foot in there. Give him one. Ain't no easing up, okay? Now, all this said, defense defense defense i need y'all to be priceless i need y'all to be like a priceless

that cannot be bought or so we cannot sell today defense no priceless i'll tell you i'm a you. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Debo, let me tell you something. You ain't line. Defense. You know who I'm talking to? Exactly. I'm talking to Joey Porter, Jr. And I'm obviously talking to Asante Samuel. Whoever we're going to have on those outsides, we're going to need to maintain. We're going to have to keep a hat on, a top on, Nico Collins. Because with our defensive line, when we stop in this run game, that's going to help us because they're going to try to get that play. And when our linebackers come up, those little post routes right behind their heads, that's what Houston thrives on. So we need to make sure we're sticky on those. And if we're winning at the line and making sure that on first down, they don't win and get these big things. So when they do run play actions, our linebackers aren't just getting out the way.

So there's big old area space for those posts. I'm like Joey Porter Jr. Santhe Samuel will be ready for these posts. Safety. Keep a top on Nico Collins because that will kill you. our defense line, stop that run. We're going to need y'all there. Like you said, angles.

Don't let him get out of there. Keep him in the pocket and we're going to maintain it. So defense, ball out and do it for four quarters. You know, you can get all height. We do it for the first half. Then we get out to the third and then we do it good. And the next thing you know, we just leaving people running open. We're leaving people sky free.

You know what I'm saying? Giving up yards. We shouldn't be giving up. Let's have a full game of just doing what we know we can do and just crush them. And then we're going to move forward to the next challenge. So right now, let's just handle the challenge in front of us. We got Houston.

It's coming to our crib for the playoffs. We're going to be there. You're going to be there. I want to be there. Come on. What we say, Joe. What we say. Every man, whoop a man.

And every good man. Whoop, too. Cam, whoop, too. T.J. T.J. Whop two. High Smith, whoop two. Jaylon Ramtie.

Whip too. Should have been answering them questions about them outside pass, Russia. Because they go whoop two. Two. Wook two. Every man whoop a man and every good man. Whoop to. Joe.

Who. You know who else? Counting this fans. The stadium need to be rocking. If my ears ain't ringing, it ain't right. Oh, wow. I don't want to be able to hear after I leave out. I want to be in here with a hearing aid in on Tuesday

trying to talk about the game because I can't hear what the hell is going on. The stadium ought to be rocking. Boom, boom. That's your job. Boom, boom, boom. Y'all don't realize that noise that we hear, that rumble in the ground that we hear.

Well, I got chills, D, Bo. It gives us something that drives us, that gives us energy. Oh, I want to. You feel you. We all together. And I'm out. Oh, man. Boom, boom.

Yep. Oh, it's turn. It's going to be turt tonight. It's going to be turt tonight. It's going to be. I'm en route. I'm in route. Now it's time for play of fay.

It's time for player fade. Okay. Presented by prize picks. Let's go. All right, Joe. Look here, baby. Yes, sir. You know how I work.

Here's my picks for tonight game. Oh. Play it. Or you faded. You know what I'm doing. Ha, I'm going to fade you, bro. I'm going to fade. I'm going to fade.

We're doing a straight up fade right there in the suite, okay? I got D.K. for a moan. Because they're going to let the ground and leave him in some one-on-ones. I got Aaron Rogers for a mo. One-old. Are you not? Are you crazy?

Bump that by 200. Are you stupid or dumb or mo? And then I still would have said, Mo, at 349. What? Yes. Play. See, Jay go give us what we need. He'll be under so much pressure running for his life trying to get out of there.

He just go chucking duck because he don't want to be hit. I got Moe on the I-N-T. And, hey, straw. That boy ain't getting, he ain't getting, he ain't getting, he ain't getting, he ain't getting, moaning, 2-29. So I got him on less. Joe? What are you going to do with this?

You know exactly what I'm going to do. What you're going to do, Joe? Play. Look here, man. You heard my boy say he's playing this. And everybody on this should be playing this. Look here. Download the app today and use the code.

Debo, Joe. These are lots. The lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. Y'all don't want to miss nothing. You don't want to actually make us upset. Okay? So make sure you do what's necessary when you're at this game. Okay?

We're talking about that game. When you're at the game, we're going to be there. All y'all got to do is look up. Look up. Y'all go see us. Okay? Come on. If y'all ain't so loud, I can't hear myself think I'm going to be supremely upset, Joe.

Please. So are you going to be upset, Joe? I'm going to be pissed. Because I'm going to be hype. They're going to hear me. I'm going to be a reason why we loud. Okay. I'm going to see.

I'm going to be right next to you. I'm going to be looking at you, Debo, like this. What's up? Debo, you turn? Are you going to be going to be hype? Hey, I'm going to have to text Joe. I'm going to be sitting next to Joe. Huh?

Who? Hey. Oh. I'm going to text you. Joe. Okay, okay. Okay. Okay, okay.

Okay. Better be so loud. I got to text him just to talk to him. Joe. That's what we need. That's what we need. Coach, I ain't going to lie to you. I'm about to be in Ralph right now.

Look here, man. We got Super Chat. Hey! They're going to go. Coming to Light, $20. She's bad. She said, Happy Mondays.

And congratulations to the winner of the tickets. Yes. I guess I'll be a home with my Jesus wine ready and my blood pressure cup prepared. I love how ESPN uses your clips. It's Monday night. Less. Go win. Let's go win.

Let's go, man. Please. Please. Let's get this dub. You understand that? Yes, Debo. I understand. Listen, six foot, hey, six foot eight Aquarius just donated $2 and said,

listen, you tell me how you spell it. Oh, they call him juice. He said they call him juice, 44, and he a fullback. Yo, Kyle, he's a pro bow too. Kyle, how you say his name? I think it's like Swessinger. Spell it, spell it, spell it, spell it, spell it, how it's supposed to be pronounced,

because it damn show don't sound like whatever that is. I know. Hey, can somebody please tell me how to say his name? Yeah, don't get me a line. Use check. Use check. What? Kyle used check.

Cowell used check. Use check. What? Yeah. J-U-S-Z-C. We got to do better. We got to do better. We got to do better. That's on me.

Joe. Joe? Yes, sir. Oh, my goodness. I know. Hold on the, Debo. Listen, Joe, I'm going to see you later, brother. Yes, sir.

And, hey, y'all make sure y'all come back here to my 11 a.m. shop. Oh, man. So we can talk about this. For the party. Like, like James, we're about to be eating on the night. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Yes, sir.

, bro. What you doing after the game, bro? Because after we get this win, man, I got a bottle of a Don Perry Yarn. I think it's a 1976, bro. We can pop open to celebrate. I'm hanging out with you. I'm hanging out with you. I'm hanging out with you.

Okay. Okay. Look here, man. We want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Deep Bo and Joe. Hey, make sure you hit the like button and subscribe. Yes, yes, yes. We'll be right back here on Monday. I mean, sorry, tomorrow.

Tuesday. Tomorrow. Tomorrow. Why did I say Monday? Because it's Monday right now. Monday right now. Hey. Hey.

Hey. This game. Y'all be back here for celebrations so everybody can be happy. Drink. Drink. Be happy. Mary. Mary.

Jolly. Joe? Come on. I'm going to see y'all here tomorrow for the party. Be here tomorrow for the party. Let's get out. I'm Dr. Priyanko Wali. And I'm Hurricane de Bolu.

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