Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - NFL PLAYOFF REACTION: Steelers Season Ends After EMBARRASSING Loss to Texans

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as react to the NFL Wild Card Playoff Round action where Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers season comes to an end after a loss to CJ Stroud and the Houston Texans. Deebo & Joe break down what went wrong for the Steelers and what the upcoming offseason holds. Timeline:00:00 - Texans beats Steelers47:09 - Texans Super Bowl chances1:00:47 - Mike Tomlin's future (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. How you doing today, Joe? I'm not going to lie to you, Debo.

I'm not doing too well. Joe. I could, from yesterday, I mean, you're seeming like in a way better mood than you were in that sweet last night. I am. I am in a, I had to, I had to take time to, to reflect and calm myself down. You know what I mean? And, and, and, you know, just, just look at it. and I react, you know what I mean?

You know, I react. You're seeing a lot of reaction. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I was crashing out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean. That's why we could never do a live watch. We can't. No. I'd get us up out of there. We'd be up out of there, bro. Like, whatever the broadcasting thing is for whoever it is, whoever it is, FCC,

whatever man, they're coming. They coming. They're coming. Joe, look here, Joe. Yeah. Yeah. Let's, let's, let's, let's go ahead and just hop into it, bro, because I ain't go lie to you. Like, it was, it was good. It was interesting. It was interesting for a minute. It was, for a while. It was interesting, dude. For a while it was interesting, dude. We was live, dude. Like, I felt the energy, like the stadium. You could feel the energy in the stadium. It was hurt in there. It was going. It was going. Hey, listen here. I want to say something to the fans, though. All you boo-birds, y'all boo-in, it's six-seven, bro. Y'all boo'all booing. Like, listen, every play ain't going to be a strike, okay?

Every play ain't going to be three. If you have any real football knowledge as a stiller fan, you know that this was going to be a grind-out. I think we could have possibly one of the things hadn't gone bad at the end, nine to seven. Like, but things happen. Anyway, let's go on ahead and jump. We'll get to all the other stuff through the process of this, okay? So still let's get the ball to start off, okay? First play, we do the extra O lineman. We put 74 out there, all right? They get a rock to Jalen.

Jalen gets that thing going 10. Block it. Positive. Everything on point. Everything on point. Next play, we hit D.K. It's a now pass right now. Run alternative.

The D.B., I'm sorry, the receivers block great. Blocking their ass old. He gets 17, okay? Next play, they hand it to Warren. is one. I'm not tripping because it's not a negative play. It ain't that three yards that we would like to have, but cool. Next play, he only gets two.

All right, it's third and seven. Now it's way longer than we want it to be. Okay. It's way longer than we want it to be. We go to game well. Like, it's just, I don't know what happened there. Because Rogers is saying something with the, with fuck, he ran into a crowd. So it's signing like maybe the route was.

or whatever it may be. I don't know. Either way it would go to pass. It wasn't catchable. It wasn't going to be caught. We punt the rock. Cool. Defense get out there.

First down, they hand the ball to marks. He get five yards. That's too much. And the reason I say it's too much is because of how he got it. I see 99 four yards deep. And I see 95 sitting two yards deep with him. If ain't nobody go touching. for the first almost three yards, five yards is very easy to get.

Second down and five, nephew make a nice play, okay? Yes. Peasy came to play. He came to play. He came with the energy. He came with the attitude. He was trying to smash. Defense.

Come on, they was moving. Nephew. Come on, nephew. You've been bawling out. None of that holding. You was out there legitimate. When he sit back and trust his skills, that's what you get, man. Yeah, dude will make a catch here and there, but he dared.

He there. He ain't going to make that catch every time. I'll put Nico to sleep at the beginning. Dude, he should have been out of there the first time, but he came back in second time. Anyway, man, it's third and five, okay? We live and we don't get there. Listen, y'all been telling me about Quinn, okay?

And I've been watching me. I've been watching him. We got a problem there. I need Queen to whip that running back, dude. I need you to whip me faster. I understand, you know, if nothing else, take him and put him in CJ's lap. Yeah, you made him move, but in that process of allowing him to move, he gets the rock off.

Like, he does a lot of shoulder blocking, shoulder take-ons and flip. Like, he got to start using his hands, dude. You can't get off a blocker if you don't use your hands, dude. It's just not going to work. They hit, who was it? Kirk, was it Kirk? Yes, it was Kirk. He split the day.

They hit Kurt for 36. Joe, what is going on back there? What happened? Yeah, I mean, they just split them. Like, they just split them. And it was a good ball. Echoes was on the outside. It was a good ball, good catch.

But, yeah, he got beat. They got to be. He split. That's a long route, dude. That takes a long time to get to it, dude. Like, it's no, like, we got to, like, we got to blitz. We got to get there. We got to put somebody in his lap.

It's back on back on back up right there when he's able to beat him. And then we got to have, like you said, Queen got to make that. It's first to 10. They give it to Chubs. We're stopping for a two-yard game, okay? That's cool. That's cool. Second down, I think they ended up giving it to Marks. It was another two.

Boom. I think the next play, 77, finally got called for false starting. The boy did it on the 36-yard bomb that we got, too. He did it on that play, too. He was going early until they started until they called him on it. Yeah. So now, I think it's what, third and 11, we blitz again. I need, I need Quinn to give me more.

Anytime we get a blitz on a runner back. Like, we chalked that up as a win. Like, T.J. You got to be. Like, okay, he finished it. And, and, but, like, if we actually could have got, got there, you know what I'm saying? Like, maybe that could have been like a sack, shack, you know what I'm saying? So he throws it off.

It's incomplete. They punt the rod. Good. They punt. Boom, boom. We get the ball back. Now we got a short shot. field okay.

First play is play action. Rogers rolls out and he hit D-KK. D-K. We met Kha. Yeah, work. There we go. We were running the ball effectively the first drive. Now the next play is the one-on-one ball that we is looking for because we didn't

have D-K that we was trying to get with what was it, MVS. Yes. We throw it up. PI. We gained, what was it? 14, 15 yards on that, okay? It's first in whatever. It's first and 10.

And Gamewell goes for, what, six? Second down, it's for another six. And I believe that got us the first down. And then Rogers goes to Smith. Everybody else is covered, you know, it was good protection. He just, it is what it is. it is. Second to 10, we go to Austin.

Anyway, third and 10, we pick up 7. It ain't enough. He got to dump it again. Dude, he was under pressure any time we got into those long down situations. We come in, we got a second for the field goal. We get three points out of it. I'm happy about that.

Yes. I mean, at that point in time, yes, we gas. We're happy about that. It's going down. The Texans, they come out there, First down, I think CJ hit Collins for four. Again, good coverage. You know, Ramsey, he made the play. Like, I'll take that.

I'll take that all day. Second down, Marks goes four or five. I don't like this. Again, dude, we're getting pushed off the line, dude. Two, three yards off the line. As D. Lyman, that don't work, bro. Now we're in a third and one where T.J. makes a great play.

That's what you do when you get one-on-one with a tight-in or a running back blocking a linebacker. You whip him. He whipped him. He made the play, but he only needed a yard. He got two. You could fall forward on that after you don't whip on somebody, and that's what happened. They got another first down. The next play, I believe it was Mark's cool.

It was three yards, but still, we're getting pushed around. Second is seven. Now, what was it? Collins, we stopped him for maybe like four yards, bottling him up nice. But again, they're in a great third and three situation. Straught hits, what was it, Hutchinson for 16. Joe, what's that, Joe? Man, that's man to man.

He was playing the outside leverage. That's a good, that's a good ball. That's a good ball. You got to, some of these plays, you got to try to make the play. But he's on his outside hip. He's on his outside. He's driving, driving them. like that's Pierre.

That's a bang. He was running straight at him and then bent the inside. So that's on the safety and the corner. That's a tough play in man to man. When he runs that speed bang, you know what I'm saying? So, I mean. Okay. I can take that.

I think it's first in ten and they go and do some goofy stuff. That's what, this is what I'm talking about, though. This is what I'm talking about with a defense at the end of the day. We're still hooping. They have zero points, all this. And now they turn over. Yeah. So he keeps working, keeps going.

He'd go to throw that thing up out of there. He get a piece of the ball. Sack, fumble recovery. That's great. I mean, caught that thing in the air. It was going to be a sack. Exactly. It didn't matter what happened.

He caught it before it hit the gun. I said, go ahead, bro. There we go now. Still, as we get back out there, man, first down, we get stopped for no game. No game is cool. It's better than losing yards. That's what puts us behind.

Dude, that's what we put us. Second down, D.K. dropped the ball. Oh, second to 10. But naked. But naked. We got ahead that. That's the first down. Like, we got to have that.

Third and 10, we're doing a checkdown to NBS. They're tackling. They're running up. No question. Hunt. Like, off of the turnover from great field position, we got to do something. We got to move to. ball a little bit.

We got to do something, Joe. Nothing was done. Okay. And on top of that, we go on head and I'm thinking we got it. We done it did a great job. We're down the ball. What was it inside the 10? Mm-hmm.

We down the ball inside the 10, bro. Okay, great. We got action. We got a long field to work with. Defense going to do what they do, man. First play, we come out. They play action. Okay.

We are what? what was it about 20 29 they got something like that like or was it 29 it was 29 that I was looking at like instead of looking at the quarterback bro like look at your coverage yes why every time these dbs like stop they got to start training them you got to train your eyes that's the first thing I play offense when I was in high school my hardest thing when you go to defense is the quarterback's not throwing you the ball. Stop looking at him. Your job is to guard your man and end up playing through his hands.

When you get in a position to look back, Dougger's 29, right? Okay. Yes, Doug's 29. Yeah. Okay, man. The next play, CJ fumbles the rock, bro. But he's able to get it back and still throw it incomplete.

And if he had any, if he had better aim, he probably could have completed it because dude was woke. they're like now it's what third and two and they get third and two it's dude third and two you know how hard it is to fend them down still they get a hot four yards to who was a curt for the first down yep got to get outside of that that's that that's what i'm saying outside leverage on that he's curling out you need that that we got beat on the sprint out next plate 22 is playing some good defense and we got a little pressure on you know on cj incomplete, cool, second and 10. They hit Collins over the middle for 13 on nephew. And me and you right then and there said, hey, I'm good with that. I'm good with that. Catch a tackle.

He's bending in. Yes, no yak, all that. Cool. Good with that. And then the next play, Marks, hit us for six. What, again, we two, three yards deep, dude. Like, when he takes, dude, he makes the tackle. He's going to hug them.

But, like, I'm really questioning, like, the style of tackling he do, the style of taking on blocks he do. Like, I'm watching this now. It ain't looking like what I'm used to seeing. Mm-hmm. No, I feel you. Second down, Herrick makes a nice play. Stays where he's supposed to stay, keeps us contained.

And when he tries to bounce it back out, he come down there, get him for one yard. But they already got the six on the first down. So again, we had a third and three. Like, they go, spread us out, do a little of something. How is he sitting right there just wide? I know how he was sitting there because I see, I don't know where the inside lineback is supposed to be, to be honest with you, bro. I just don't know where the other one is supposed to be.

but it's third and three. He drops it to the tight end. Basically just sitting on his butt in the middle of the field for six yards. The next play, I think Chubbs ends up going nine, dude. Like, we're not even getting off blocks now, bro. Like, we're getting pushed around. And on the fact that when you don't get pushed around too much, you don't even, you're not even able to shed the block and get off.

Like, are we not? Are we not practicing this? Or are we not like, like, is this something that's not done? Dude, when Coach Mitchell was there, bra, that's all that. Boom, boom, boom, boom. You better be there to work your hands.

They say, you don't want, you don't want to die of breast cancer. That's what he was called. They put their hands in your chest. Don't let him get the hands in your chest. Like, dude, the hands is all in their chest. They give it to Chub again on second down. He gets six.

Yo, I saw 95. He literally tossed out of the club. on that one. Okay? And 94 looked like he was going to check and see what was going on because he was about

two yards behind him and 95 was already about four deep. 95 got pushed so deep. He got pushed into Queen that time, dude. Like, again,

how's gonna work, dude. Every man whoop a man? No, ain't nobody whooping. Nobody, dude. Like, bro.

They got to whip a dog. Again, hand it back to Chubb. He'd get another six. Like, we're not getting off. We're being pushed around. Average and posse.

Yes. We are second and four. And then Marks goes 20 yards. T.J. get hooked by the motion, dude. What I need on there is I just need, I just want a little bit more anticipation.

Especially when it's coming over. You got a big body sitting right here in front of you. You got a smaller body off right here. And then you got due motion and over. Like, and then with that, when he motions over and comes down on him, how soon is the corner supposed to get up there? Shit, you got to get up there quick. Like, it's not, things aren't happening in the time it needs to happen. And sometimes, bro, I ain't even know what I'm looking at.

I'm seeing, I don't know what I'm looking at. It's first and ten now, I think, after what, 13 or something like that? Yes, brother. Marks goes seven. The whole middle of the defense, bro, looked like a wave, a wave chart that was just like this. It was bowed in, bro. It was like this.

I know exactly what you're talking about, brother. They line, they were making, their offensive line was creating a new offensive line. Yeah. The next play, they misdirectors, with some play action because we're getting gassed. Yeah. Like you have to.

So now we're trying to play for the run. And my man, Echols, running for his life across the back. And Kirk beats him to the pile on. They score. It's seven to three. I ain't tripping.

I found, I sound like I'm tripping now, but I wasn't tripping then. I was tripping, but I wasn't tripping. Like, because at the end of the day, it's still,

we had to, they scored one time. I don't like how they scored. The process is how they got down there and how they went through getting in there. 14, 14 plays 92 yards. No, that wasn't what we were. We pin you inside the tier at the eight

and we just give up 90. That's what I'm talking about, dude. We go and give up plays and points at horrible times, dude. The first thing I said when we was playing this game is we got to outplay their defense. way they defense played, I ain't go lie. That was kind of hard to do. But look, I'm just saying.

We're still in it. We're still in it, right now. Okay, we're still in it. All right. And still has come out there and we go three and out, bro. First down, a screen and stuff. Play action. Second screen.

What I? Okay. Second down, he got to throw it into the dirt. 76, bro, ducks his head. in a horrible attempt of blocking Hunter. And I don't, I ain't seen a pro. I seen, I seen pee-wee kids that can put a block positionally better with their head. Dude, literally does like this.

What you thought he was going to do, stand there and wait for you to put your head on him? Oh. Rogers got a thought of that. We get into the tension of grounding. And what is it? Third now in 21. Third and 21. We try to get a little check now.

the game well, he gets some yards. It ain't enough. We got to punt the rock. He might have got like 10 and 11. It wasn't enough. We needed 22. We got to punt the rock back to them. First down, marks four.

Again, same thing. Yes, they stand ahead of the six. Yes, dude. So it's four yards and six yards. That thing that we talked about, what did they call it? Success rate. Success rate was out of control. Out of control.

They either got it. on the first down, the second down, or just completed the whole play on the third. But then, Debo, look, we still back. We fighting. Let's go Steelers defense. Yeah, CJ, he fumbled a snap again. Okay.

Cliff Paul, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. He fumbled the snap, get it back. Come on, try and do something goofy. 9-5. You went on ahead and made a play. And Swat, went on ahead. and fell on it. We recovered at the 20, what, 21?

21-yard line, Debo. First play, toss, game well, smack. D.K. missed the block. He didn't get that block. Like, DJ, you are big, you big, bruh. You big, bro. That's a defensive back. Really just, really right there, he's showing.

He's on man time. You know what I'm saying? He's just trying to out-fuscle you. And that, like, you're supposed to be the one. You're supposed to be throwing people out the way. And he just blew up our whole play. It was the whole play. No.

The next play, they dropped us for another two-yard loss. Dude made a nice play on that. Like, their defense was playing, bro. I can't, I can't say they weren't. I can't say they weren't. And when they were swinging, they were making tackles. They were flying to the rock. They were playing like they wanted to, bro.

Then they're more defense. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly, dude. Third and 14, we get 12 out of game well. slip. If he hadn't slipped, he would have still been sitting there. Possibility to stop that all together. It's fourth and two. We go ahead and we go for it.

It's a nice play design, dude. Nice call. Rogers hits Adam for the four first and goal at the nine, right? I ain't going to lie. I'm geek. I'm like we're about to score, okay? Warren only gets what, one yard next play. We play action. I don't know. Why, I don't know why we play at you. We ain't, we ran it successfully this whole little drive or that one for it. Like, I don't know. Anyway, I don't, I don't make the cause. I don't know why.

Just, no, nobody's covered. He has to throw it away. Third and eight, they just collapsed the pocket. Dude, just, he tripped. He just tripped on people on the ground, like, just getting pushed down. Yes. That's when he looked. He looked old right there.

He looked very, he didn't look too athletic. I know you see, he just tripping. I'm like, but move, you just, oh, oh, my goodness. Oh, oh, now I'm falling. Yeah, you know, lift you feet a little higher, but you ain't expecting nobody to be there that fast. You know, them ladders? You're like, pick your feet up.

We get a field going to all of it, though. Like I said, I'm still geek. I'm with you. You know, it's six, seven. We needed a touchdown, but it's six seven. Definitely. It's six seven. Texans get back out there.

It's four yards from Marks on the first play. CJ took Kirk for five. Again, third and one. A tush push from the, so it was a stover, the tight end or something, right? CJ then says, hey, you got a nice first down there. I'm going to give you five on this one. Second down is incomplete.

21. Force that out. Nice play. That's good defense. Yes. Nice play. But we're still at third and manageable. Third and five.

CJ. To Kurt. Why is it giving me skirt Kirk so much space? Seven. First down. But it's only like 28 seconds left. Oh, yeah, we good. 28 seconds.

Down to 45. Yeah. First down. We got lucky. Oh, my. He missed college. I'm so glad CJ over through that because it could have been ugly. Wide open.

Wide open. Wide open. Second down, P.W. 5 on March. That's how you hit. Yes. That's how you hit a man. Form tackle. Form tackle.

Boy, that was so clean. And look, he wasn't looking at the ball. He was looking at his man. He was going to drive through that man. Oh, easily. He was trying to put him through the dirt. That's right. putting through the dirt.

Third down, we blitz him, we get some pressure on him. He got to throw it short over there to show. They don't get it. They end up punting, okay? We don't. Hey there, this is Dr. Jesse Mills, director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health and host of the mailroom podcast.

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third quarter, the cool, defense. Let's go out here and we got to stand up. That's what we got to do. We got to go out here and we got to stand up.

First play, he hits Higgins for 16. Mm-hmm. Then Mark says, hey, 14. Ha! Just straight through the hole.

I don't know what's going on there, but from what it's looking like, to me, the queen got to come down there. He got to feel. He got to get, he got to get somebody off of a block. He got to put his body in the hole. He got to do something. He's waiting for them to get back there and they're getting back there to him. Now you got Harrison who can't stay backside because he's trying to get to that hole that he's seeing is not being filled. And dude comes out, Mark's come out to the backside where I believe he would have filled. I just don't know for sure. But from what I'm looking at, that's what I'm thinking.

you know, they play action us on the next play because they've been gashing us. That's why the backers are up and them bang. Those bangs, that's what I told you about them. You got to be expecting them,

got to catch and tackle. He fired on them for show, but it's still after, you know, saying, a big one. You got 14 yards, bro. You got 14 yards. Yes. Yes.

That's followed by Marks, who went on ahead and got nine on the first one and picked up the second dime. I only got two, but it's second and one. All you need is second and one. It's second and one. Again, Marks goes on first down for four.

Second down, I believe it was CJ the Schultz for two. Nice play by 29. Nice play, but we're still in a third and short, third and manageable situation. Like, what was it? CJ, what did he do? Dude, I think he just, like, panicked there, dude. Like, makes a horrible decision, terrible throw, and we're able to capitalize. That's a good thing for us.

We get the pick. Echoes gets the pick. But if he don't panic and he gets that out, we're beat. Look, Lee, bro, a thousand percent. The fifth was the fifth. It was a fifth, bro. That fifth came to tuition for wishing in the fourth. In the fourth, in the fourth, in the fourth.

We got the ball. We got the ball back. We stopped up for scoring. That's great. Yes, bro, that's great. See, I can look at it. I can't, I can't go back there now because I know what the outcome is. I'm trying.

I know, I know, I know. I know. I know. I know. You're good, you go, you good. Because it was happy. But it, but the defense. Yes.

The defense did. Yes. They did ball. They did ball. They did ball. We get to all that. We'll get to all that. We get to all that.

All right. We get the ball back. We got the ball. , okay. . I don't know. Oh, on. One.

Oh. First down, we give it to warm for seven. And then the next play, he picks up three for the first. Cool. We back into what we're doing. We false start immediately. The next play, after that, it was no gain to Austin. This quick screen of Austin.

We're getting blown up. We're not blocking their DBs. Their DPs are out strengthening our receivers. They're like, no, they want it. Yes. Yes, dude. The next one they hit Austin again. They hit him this time.

He actually gets six yards. I don't believe it's like 39. 39. M-V-S over the middle. Hey, 14.

I'm going to take it all day, all day. But then the next play, Gainwell, is dropped for a negative two-yard. Just go down to hill, keep it going.

That was two yards, one yard. Give us the two in the dust. Just give me that. Give me that, dude. Like, second down Rogers got lucky to get away from a sack and just throw it away third down I think we went to Austin what do you think of that play Joe

he's our fast guy he's deep I mean but like I mean if the ball was gone it's more of a give him a chance you know what I'm saying like I don't know the ball was the ball was led too far it wasn't the PI they was just running and I don't know it just didn't look like it didn't look like it was going to be completed yeah True. I ain't go lie. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have said it was a PI. It wasn't enough there for me. Yeah. Oh. I'm, yeah. We got to punt the rock back over to him. I think the first play, Houston got like maybe five on a pass, whatever it was. They got called for you. Legal shift after that, which put them the second and ten, we finally go ahead and sack. CJ. A little stunt game. Third down is incomplete. They got a punt to rock.

We actually went and force the three and out. Gravy. We didn't give up no, no yards, nothing like that. Cool. Nothing, bro. All right. Boy, Porter, Jr. over there still strapping. First down, we go ahead and Rogers hits Thielin' for Twinkie and won.

Yes. Okay. We're actually making a little progress. Okay. then it's a loss, a one to Smith. Wasn't that like another type trying to do a screen or something? We're not running successfully.

Like, they're not trying to, like... It's the second and 11. The second and 11, man. And they just get to pushing us back. Rogers just under pressure, bro. Under pressure, Anderson's bullying people. Hunters start bullying people. The thing that we didn't want to do,

being long down in distance situations. Now it's third and, yes, it's third and long. And we are sack, fumble. But we recovered it. We got lucky on that one. Yep. We punt the ball. We punt the ball, okay.

Texans get it back. First play, CJ to Collins, okay? Brother, and it's the same play where he completed it. He in the same position, but what we say, you ain't a better make that play every time. No, no, no, no. Five. Exactly.

This time, he makes the play, gets the ball loose, and, oh, boy, take a little nap. He up out the game. Okay? This, I'm geeked. I'm like, okay, I'm sorry. I hope he's okay, but we, the deep threat. Like, come on. Now we got Nico Collins, the biggest threat out.

We thought. We thought so. We thought so. We thought so, brother. Second down. CJ ain't even ready for the rock, bro. It just comes. Fumble the thing. But he recovers it again, bro.

Like, he was trying to help us. He was trying to help us, man. I think he might have had a black and yellow jersey up under there. We get the third and 15. And this is where this man, Kirk, came from. 46 yards. Why in the fuck are you looking at the quarterback after you just got your ass ran away from

and as you look, you start drifting away more? Oh my goodness. Why to flip? Sorry. Why to flip? Are you looking at the quarterback? That is bad ball. he's running man, you're looking

because you're hoping that he's not throwing it to you and now you see the ball coming. You have to run to your man. You can't look so you can touch him. If you run after Christian Kirk? If he ran right here and just dropped and ran until he got to where he could touch him and looked up, he could have been completed.

He could have hit or knock that down. If not took it off him. That's where the ball's going. A thousand percent of Debo. I'm trying to tell you. They have the 36-yard line now, bro. First down, it's a whole. voting call on them.

That's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,

that, that, that's really, would really help us. Because immediately, Mark's got seven on that. Yes.

If that was a normal, join first and ten, you know what time? It's second three. That's like, it's good. Right. And then the next play,

CJ hit Kirk for seven. That would have been a first, but they shot their self in the foot. All right. Mm-hmm. Third down is incomplete. Why? nephew

nephew Joey Porter Jr. came out that joint two ball. Man, man, strap, no hands. I'm out there. Yes, it's locked. And this joint right here.

Yes, Peezy. Yes, you give them that. Every time. Ain't nothing free. We're able to hold them to a field goal. Hey, I ain't going to lie. I ain't think he was going to make that. That was a long,

that was a long field goal, but I ain't tripping. It's six to ten. Fourth quarter. Still got 13 minutes left, bro. Yeah. First. Yeah.

Time? Still, let's get out there. First down. Oh. Game well. 14. Yes. Yes.

The next play, bro. We go to Austin. It was a little short, man. He hadn't beat. He hadn't beat if he didn't have to slow down. He makes that play, I believe. He brought nine out of ten, but he threw it a little short. He had to slow down.

He had to slow down. Austin ain't that tall. He got to try and jump and make the play. He tips it. Goes to his hands, but just can't get him all the way under it. We got a hat. We got a hat. We got to have a throw.

We got to have a catch. You're not good enough to have that. Like. And then that's when it turns. Second down, though. We got dropped for a two-yard loss after that. Don't forget that. Now, it's third and long again.

The situation we did not want to be in so that we didn't allow the outside rushes to do what it is they had been doing all year. We are sack fumbled. Okay. Touchdown. Not. Like, drip, sack, recover, run, touchdown. Here's the crazy part, bro.

That play, all they had to do was hold up a half second more. D.K. is free down the numbers. This closest man to him is already almost parallel with him on his outside. The safety is sitting over there on the opposite hash, but he's only three yards deeper than him, but he got to cover almost 15 and 20, and D.K. is full stride going down the field. Rogers is about to release it.

All we needed was a half second, bro. A half second, we go. We could have went from being 10 to 6 to 13 to 10, bro. But it's totally flea. flipped around, they get the touchdown and it's 17 to 6 now, bro. Brough, I lost it. Yep. I don't even know what I said.

Who I said it to? I forgot where we were even at. I forgot that we were, what, I don't even know what did I say, Joe, but I know people was looking at me. It was a loser. Yeah, you scared everybody in the damn sweet. I ain't going to lie to you. And it ain't even mine.

Like, uh, brother, yeah, it got bad right there. That's when it started getting ugly. We needed more time. We need the ball back. We need a ball back. First down. We get the ball back. We missed Frymoot.

We missed it. We could have, we could have, I think we could have made that play. We didn't. Second down. Yes. Yo, Warren made that catch. He got, he got us to four yards we needed to get in 30. manageable, okay?

But he got fired on. Oh, Lord, he got fired on. Those boots on Houston are not playing. They're not play the number one defense. They really out there. Like, yeah,

they ain't play playing. But, hey, finally, 30-6, we hit fire move, a nice throw on the money throw. Battle catch, holding on to that thing, brother.

Yes, yes, combat catches, brother. Needed that. Then, you know, the next first day, got to pick your feet up. Like, got to pick your feet up. Second down, I believe it was incomplete to DK. And the third down, it just gets batted out the air.

We got to punt the rock over. And now, bro, it's kind of, I'm kind of iffy. Kind of iffy. Yeah. Because I know. Kind of iffy. I know how we respond. in such situations or how we have responded this year in such situations.

And what do we do? We respond how we had men responding. We allow these dudes to go 11 plays, 87 yards for a touchdown and use up almost six minutes, but a nine minutes that was left. they stead ahead of the change. Again, they made sure they got that success rate percentage where you can drive down the field and keep the down and distance manageable. You had a second and eight.

It was nine to Higgins. You had a third and four. 33? Kirk? Brother, we're running after that man in these drag routes in man to man. And he's just getting left. Eccles, it just, Kurt just ran away from him. You know what I'm saying?

You can't, that's a catch and tackle. It's a drag. Get him three yards, four yards. He might catch it. But for him to catch the joint and just turn up and run away from him. You're not. Look, don't look. I'm not looking.

If I know I have a guy that I can look at the paper on and say, this dude is a tenth or more fashion than me, I ain't got time to look at nothing. I'm assuming every time he cuts, they're throwing him the ball. Ebo, that's what I'm telling you. When you're in that position as the DB, you're looking and praying he's not throwing it. But if you look back at that quarterback, you're going to watch him throw it to your man.

And you're going to watch who is teaching you to, A, when you get beat, look at the quarterback and see if they're throwing it to you because everybody is doing it. Everybody is doing it. It's calling him being a DB and panicking. Hoping and praying that he don't throw a call to my man because I'm beat. I'm beat. Please don't be throwing it over here.

Hopefully he's getting sacked. Are you doing this in practice and no one is telling you turn your head around? You... I do. Well, terrible. They get to a third and three. Another, it was another, then it was another third and three for Chubs. But I think we ended up getting a face mask on that one.

That got him a first down. And then they tried to help us out and false start. Like now it's what was it? First and gold from the third. 13. But that's what it's just, but again. The way that they ran that during in there. I don't know.

What you? They went in there and closed his eyes and hit queen. How do you let him weave, Bob and weave? And just nobody put nothing on him. Nothing, do you know? Nothing. Dude, I believe. It was the way he scored on that one.

That was kind of like. come on man it was the fact that they scored period bro we had 87 to work with right yeah yeah no for show for show for show that's what we said dbo we needed a full game of it even if they might not have been won the joint because of the way that it worked but still our defense we know like just just don't do that because it could still been we would have been seven less points and it wouldn't have made us feel as bad they walked it down they walked it down, burnt time off the clock, and scored a touchdown, bro.

Yeah, brother. A touch, like, come on. That's the last thing we could give up right now. It's 24 to 6 now. Game it really over with. Oh, it's 6 now, brother, with three minutes and 30 seconds, so you already know. We get the ball back and they just add insult.

injury on top of it. Pick six on the fourth down and five for that touchdown for them. 30 to six game. That's what the game ends at. The game is over with it. It don't matter what happens with the little time that was left. This can't happen, bro. This, this, this, this can't this, this, this.

We, we make a historical numbers in this, dude. and it's not good things, dude. Like, we're out here, like, what will we get a hundred and, what was that, 157 yards, 175 yards, something like that? Us, bro, total. Br, come on. Come on. Debo, come on, man.

And I know we always on the show talking about. 175 yards, bro. What are we talking about? We always be talking about our defense. Joe, neither you or I. to players and that's what we do. You're going to... Or Tomlin.

Nobody was born. But I'm going to tell you... With Stilis, 1947. They ain't even know how to throw the ball in. No. You know what? Let me stop.

I was... That is... You always talk about... It's time, though. Let me stop. Hold on. I want to give my props to Houston. Okay.

Yes. Okay. Respect. Okay. Houston's defense. It's real. That's why they're number one, right? Houston's defense, to be honest with you,

I think they can win the Super Bowl, the way they played against us. As long as their offense don't sell on. Like, that's what we used to do in 2008, bro. That was the kind of defense, that was the kind of players that we had in 2008, bro. We didn't just go out there and stop offenses, too. We went out there,

and we won games on defense, bro. And that's what Houston did against us last night. If the offense didn't score a point, bro, the defense still would have beat us by themselves. That's what I was saying. They beat us 14-6 on defense, and the offense they beat us 16-6. Dude, the offense never score a point,

and we would have still lost that game, bro. Like that is a truly dominant defense. That's what dominant defenses do. And I'm going to get these boys' day props, dude. Like Houston, what DeMiko Ryan's is doing over there? Oh, that's huge. That's huge. He's doing everything necessary to make sure his team has an optimum opportunity

to go and get him a check. What is this? This is his third year only? only his third year, bro, you got a defense that just gave up, what was it, six total points, only 175 yards, okay? And on top of that,

your offense turned the ball over three times, okay? We fumbled five times, turned the joint over three. And you still score 30. One of those times, the ball was almost in the red zone, bro. it was the 23, 25 yard line, and you gave up nothing but three.

Hey, props, I'm gonna give y'all, y'all respect. Y'all, y'all watch out, y'all for the text. They real, they real. As long as CJ don't sail, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they go be all right now. And, dude, you know what? Would it, our defense, bro. day, hey, our defense, it wasn't, look, this was, you can't do that right now because our defense, but this game, I told you, though, Joe, listen, I told you, I said our defense is going to have to play better against their offense, than their defense plays against our offense.

But I understand. I understand. But what we can't do is not say that before they start. of passing the football that we had 175 total passing yards. I mean, total yards, total. We turned the jump over, got them to rock over three turnovers that we got our office. As an offense, we only got 175 total, bro. As an offense, we only, okay. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

That's what I'm saying. As our offense, our offense, I'm looking at them like, today I can't. Because the defense, like, in the day, when they ran that ball all the way down there and scored that long drive, that to end the game, that's, that's terrible, you know, but for three quarters and getting the ball back to the offense and making something, you know, they look, they look so bad that I was just like, you know what, today's not the day for me for real to go on the defense. Because when you turn the ball over.

Everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, bro. I'm not, I'm not, I'm no, no, no, no, no. I'm a defense guy, bro. And my job as a defensive person is to do my perfect job is to not let you score a drop. I don't care if you get it after one. Now, the reality and the realness of that actually happening, yes, that's, it's slim and and few in between, okay? Now, now that I got time to reflect and realize, you know what I'm saying?

Like, I let, I let the fan in me. That's what I did. I let the fan in me mislead me. I let, I let him, I let him, that's my fault. I let him take control and possess me, okay? That's what happened. And because right now it's the playoffs And the fact that anybody that's in it got a chance

Because we're in single elimination football You got four games You go on a four game streak and you win it And it had me thinking back to 2005 When I won my first Super Bowl dude We got hot We got hot, we won the Super Bowl, bro And in that process that we got hot, bro

In that playoff run, we faced The top ranked offense this dude in the NFL. And when I say the top ranked offense in the NFL, dude, I mean number two, number three, number four, and number six, okay? Cincinnati was six. Next, it was Indy. They were three.

Denver was five, and we finished it off with a Super Bowl win against the Seattle Seahawks. Okay? But, but, again, What, um, like, uh, like, who was it? Like Mariah, like Mariah said. Hey. Oh, I said. I didn't know nothing.

I was stupid. I was falling apart. I was lying to myself. I was, I was foolish. I was lying to myself. I was lying to myself, Joe. I, dude, I didn't know nothing. I was stupid.

I was foolish. I was lying to myself. Because as I looked back and I had to go look back at it, Joe. And I'm like, yo. All we did was we got hot. I said we got hot at the right time. That's what I said. But I looked.

I said, oops. We was a number four ranked defense in the regular season. And the offense was 15. And you know what? What happened? What we just saw? We saw what our regular season was. As I went back and looked at that,

we played effectively and stopped them as a, a defense from being able to get what they were used to getting. As an offense, we were getting a little more than we were used to getting. It wasn't a big, giant, dramatic difference, okay? So in light of that, what we saw last night, statistically, was exactly what we were in the regular season. And that is a 25th ranked offense and a 26th ranked defense. That's exactly what we saw last night from the Stillers.

That is why. I'm going to go with the, I'm going to go with you on the offensive part. Defense, they, I can't. Dude, listen, the defense did a great job, dude, of not letting them score points for most of the game up until. Hey there, this is Dr. Jesse Mills, director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health and host of the mailroom podcast. Each January guys everywhere make the same resolutions. Get stronger. Work harder.

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Mark's got 112 with that 19 carries. By itself. And damn, there's six or two. It's a team that's averaging over five. You can't do that. No, no, you're right. You're right. You're right.

We can't do that, D. Bro. We can't do that. You're right. That opened up the threat of the play action. It gave it T. And that's why he kept in us with them being bangs. Because the crime was working, so everybody's running up wide open.

Who? Yep. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. The only thing that really saved us, bro, is the three turnovers. That's why they didn't get more points.

And on top of that, CJ, who I don't even think this dude's averages over 200. yards of game, got 250. He got 250. Kirk had a career game of 144 after we got rid of Collins. The offense, I will take, the offense did absolutely

nothing. I don't know why we changed what we did in the first couple drives. I don't know why. I know everybody going to talk about Rogers this, Roger's that. I'm going to tell you all this. Anybody that know anything about this football thing, if we did not have

Rogers out there, we would have probably, Mike Costi would have probably had his first losing season ever. We are damn so not made the playoffs. So you can yell and scream and get mad. He, oh, he, he tripped, he this, he did all that other stuff. Without him, we're not even there to lose it. Now, think about this. Next year coming, we ain't got him.

What's going to happen? I don't even think we ran the ball enough this game, point blank period, anyway. Whoa, I don't if we, what do we, do we even run a? the ball 15, 20 times? How many times we run the ball, Joe? Like, the game was never out of hand. The play called in the election that you saw made like we had to go and get, giving a ball, man. Every play ain't going to be a strike, but all we need is three four in the cloud of dust. Make your blocks, man. 18 carries total. 18 carries total. For the game, total. Why? Why is 18 carries?

total. How many plays? How many plays we got? What? 50, 60 plays? Why? Defense, like you said, we do. Defing up too many yards, too much time. We was averaging 2.6 yards on first down, Depot. That's not going to cut it. You don't want to know it's not going to cut it? First half, we didn't even complete a third down. Yeah. We went two for 13 on third. First half we didn't complete one. That's another record. I don't think that had been done since like 89.

We're breaking records left and right over here. We're breaking records left and right. That's so great, huh? No. We're breaking all the bad ones right now. 175 yards. Total. In 2006, last time the Steelers did.

We almost beat our own record. And that was when you... I don't even know if they could pass a football then. What was the football made of then? Like a real cow? It didn't even inflate. You couldn't even throw that damn thing. Like, they're banging out in leather helmets, Joe.

It is. Like, no, it's no face mask on this, bro. It ain't no face mask. You telling me, them boys ran 147 yards. in 1946 or whatever it was, seven, with no face mask, his teeth, I don't even think he got a mouthpiece in, Joe. Leather.

Leather on his helmet. No face mask, no mouthpiece. We thought Terry Brassaw and then was playing with nothing. This, this is nothing, bro. That's 30 years before Terry Brasson and then even came around. Yeah, we got to change something up, Debo. we got to do some things got to change, my brother.

Like, what do they say? The first time in NFL history to lose five consecutive playoff games by double digits, the worst yardage difference in a playoff game in NFL history, we're breaking these records, bro. Who is this? You can Who? Two field goals.

Two field goals. Right. Like, the worst, the worst win percentage in modern era? We have the worst playoff win percentage in the modern era? What? All time. Coach Tom, these are facts.

They say that's worst all time. But. as long as we, you know, the standard is the standard. And like I told you before, the standard sounds like to me is 500. Standard sounds like to me, Joe, that's what it sounds like to me right now, Joe. It sounds like to me is 500 because all these other records is, you know, what are we looking at right now, Joe? Nine years, nine years stretch, not a single, not a single playoff win? Br, last time we won a playoff game, 2000.

I was, you even on the team, Joe? You weren't even on the team, Joe. No. I was on the team. That's how long it's been, bro. Yeah, it's getting this. It's not the way the Steelers want to go, brother. It's not the way the Steelers are going to go.

You think they're going to do anything about it. They're not going to do anything. I'm not going to say they're not going to do anything about it. What I'll say is I know there will be no changes made in 26 as far as as far as a head person goes because it won't be that's just not what they're going to do i think it'll be something where they'll just say all right we're going to let it play out and and then do whatever move they're going to do from there and the only way that does not happen is if coach thomlin says you know what i'm going to do this or that come next year and again i will tell you like i told you

if it's me, the money guarantee I ain't going to leave 10 sitting there just because of some background noise and all this other stuff y'all want to say because my check still go cash the same way. So this is the thing I'm saying too. So you're saying at the end of the day, he's going to have one more year left on this deal. So they're not going to fire him for show and then maybe not going to give an extension. So that means you could just play out your contract. So basically we're looking at if they don't do nothing at this offseason, then they don't renew. If they don't pick up his option,

which was for 27, I believe they said. Then next year, you got to pick it up. March 1st year, 2026. Yeah. So then that's what I'm saying.

And that's not a firing. That's just a parting of ways. A contract is done and it doesn't have to be nothing. It's actually had to be talked about. Because once that deal is done for that year, then you can go do whatever you want. So normally this off season will be the one. If there's not no extension,

You're playing your next year with no more years on your deal. So then it's just like after the season, you don't have a head coach because your head's coach's contract is up. Right. It's not a firing. Like I said, it will be, it'll be. It's not renewed. And that's the, when I played my last deal with the Steelers, it was three years. My three years was up.

And they didn't like fire me or nothing, but your contract is done. And there's no, it's not another one. Right. I mean, but something got to be done, bro. Like I said, it's records left and right. Right here, bro. we got tonight, last night, bro? Seven.

Straight losses. It ties the longest playoff street. He's now tied with Marvin Lewis for the longest playoff street. Seven losses straight. Yeah. Seven losses straight. Would you say, would you say Marvin Lewis is a great coach? I wasn't saying, no.

I was like. being a great coach is not too many great coaches i think i think coach the word you threw around so much right now though i'm freaking throwing around all the time like great coach i'm like no he's he's a good coach you know what i'm saying great coaches there's not that many great coaches you know what i'm saying but i was well yeah i liked coach tea i thought coached for me i i i said i don't like him i just always said no no no i that's how you do coach bro i not i never I don't think it's great. And I get it, huh?

Bruh, it's, it's, uh, it's 1205, bro. And we got some chats to get, bro. We don't, we're going to get to this. We'll get to this. This is what we need to talk about. Oh, yeah. Friday, you got, I promise you, you got it Friday, bro. I promise you, you got it Friday.

You understand what I'm saying? Okay. Yes, yes, yes. Right. Yes, yes, we need a little bit of just some time to let it just so we just can't go off emotions. bro I'm oh I could I could I could I could I could let off some emotions but as you say as you I ain't gonna do it I ain't gonna do I'm gonna go ahead I'm gonna go ahead I'm gonna get it

I'm gonna get it on for like I said I'm gonna sit back on that too I'm gonna sit back I'm gonna get time to digest it look at it understand what it is get a get clarity to it not not be speaking out of emotions of what just happened, but get, we didn't want to get, we didn't want to play off game since 2016, okay? 2017 was the last time when we over, went over there, New England, we lost in, okay? So 2016, that season is last time we won. Now, I'm going to look at that time frame to now, okay? I'm going to look at what it is that we haven't been doing. I'm going to look at what it is that we were doing before that, or what it is that, whatever that may be, okay?

I'm going to take time, calm myself down, set a while, look at it and see. All right. We got coming to life back, $20. We got coming to life back right here, $20. She said, my name is Veronica Fellows. The season was ugly and frustrating. An elite defense is wasted by a broken offense, poor quarterback play, Stahl drives and another short playoff stay that exposed the team's lack of direction.

That is very true. That is very true. The elite defense was not wasted by a broken offense because the elite defense wasn't elite. The elite defense was ranked 26. That's not an elite defense. I'm sorry to have to tell you that covenant lie. The names and the faces had elite reputations. But when they all got put together and it was put into a play in the coordinators and whatever it is, the coaches got it together, it didn't pan out.

I mean, points. I mean, points do we average giving up. We was ranked 16 defense. It was at the 26 defense in yards. 26 total. Total. Overall. I don't give a damn about what you are at one thing.

because that one thing is not the only thing you play. We need to, but what about points, though? If you bend but don't break and you give a little more yards. It's a damn about the points, bro. I do. Points is the main thing. If you, if you're very, points is the main thing, right?

Points is the main thing. Okay, I understand what you're saying. But all that is rated together to give you your total. Okay, we're totally ranked 26, bro. That's ass 26 It's only three teams below I'm sorry

It's only six teams below us We only got 32 teams in the league Joe I don't care what you Oh we're number But we're number one in sacks What do it matter If we're number one in sacks If we can't stop nobody

From running the ball And they ain't got to pass it I'm just giving a hypothetical Yeah If they went on first down And they don't have to They don't have to pass it Then what does that mean?

mean. That's why it's total defense. I'm going to come with my notes too for your ass Debo on Friday. Covenant of life said again, another 20. Stop pretending. Draft or trade for a real franchise quarterback. Overhaul, the offensive staff, rebuild the line, quit wasting an elite defense. The defense is not elite. Veronica, it's not elite. Okay, it is not.

Okay, money and names don't count. Period. All right. Have measures and loyalty, have measures and loyalty for, what is that? Projects are killing this team. Love you guys. 100K, let's go. It's not.

I don't think it's loyalty projects. Like I said, again, we have. haven't, dude, we're going to go over, over. We're already, okay, I'm doing, I'm going. So, right now, we have at, what is that, Lee, Leith, Leith X, underscore X, $5. Even though the season, even though my braces be killing me, y'all. Even though the season is over, I'm glad I had yinns through the season. Love the show.

at wishing all the best and wishing all the best. She meant wishing. She meant, yeah, I got you. Thank you. Mike, Mike, dash, $110, a bucks. He said, what up, Dibo and Joe? With Mike T. falling short yet again, is it time to move on or run or run it back for another 500 season

and first playoff round exit? until the next time. Listen, bro, we can't even get into that right now. We ain't even got enough time. We go talk about this on Friday for sure, though. We go get deep into detail into it, man. Y'all make sure you're all back here, man. Like, Greg Ramsey, 5-825, $5.5 says,

looks like the Texans were Craig from Friday and the Steelers were Debo. Oh, man. Listen, man, get that up out of here, man. I don't want to hear that shit. I understand. Look here, man. I've seen that thing, too.

We got the Iran-Afghanistan vet $4. He said, man, $5, sorry. He said, man, we're sitting here down at the barbershop, and we are all waiting for you to crash out. I ain't crashing out, bro. I crashed out. You should have been in that. I crashed out.

Listen, I could have, my, my. Evo, you was pissed in that sweet, brother. bro, I could have, I could have kicked something, bro. I could have kicked something, bro. Like,

oh my goodness, bro. We go be back here Friday, though, man, I'm trying to tell y'all, like, we go,

we'll get time. Like, and there, yeah, we go try and get through everybody's super chat, though, today.

Amber Jamil, $10, says, it's been a front run for y'all all year, Dibon, Joe. Y'all made me laugh

when I was angry about everything. Something got to change next year. Six points. It's just unacceptable. I agree with you. 100%. Six points is unacceptable.

100 and what was it, 75 yards, it's unacceptable. Everything about that is unacceptable. We're making history going backwards. That's just, that's not, that's not conducive. It's not conducive to the stellar football, point blank period, man. The legacy, the lineage of what you have here, what, what it, what it is, what it, what it means to be a stiller, man. It's not the same

anymore. Like I said before, you don't just put this uniform on and now you're a stiller. No. It's work. It's work to come with that, man. It's Brian that come with that. It's a mindset. It's determination.

It's a play. You can have all that, man. But if you can't go out there and play the game and do your job, every man post-wolf man. That's it. First, first thing, first. Every man got a whip man.

One man, whoop another man. That's football one on one. It's very, very simple when you look at it like that. And I say we need some more individuals to whip the other individuals. We need to start getting guys to play the position that it entails as far as the job description. If you're an interior lineman, I need you to be able. Put the knee down.

put the knee down. Hold on. Dude, we got hemp in the box and say, hemp was going on. You're hamping in the box with us. They ain't the same. I know they ain't, but what you would have did?

Big Ham, I would have had both of them. What he said? Like this, right here. I looked at it. He said like this. I said, hey, you would just grab them. This right here.

He said they're trying to push. All I'm going to do is drop that leg and be right here. Sitting right here. On the line of scrimmage with two of them. while my linebackers come flying down here, filling holes, putting people down. He's dead serious, too. Like, we got another one here.

What is that? All, Autesa Ace. Alltesa Ace. For the highest paid players perform. Why all the highest played? Why? Why are the highest paid players perform the worst? in the big games.

Metcah, Watt, Ramsey, Queen, who else? Everybody but can. I wouldn't say they performed the worst, but it was definitely some bad performances. And I don't think Ramsey played bad. I don't think Watt played bad. I think he had a play there where he could have did something better,

but for the most part, you know. Well, T.J. to have a splash every single genre. It don't work like that, dude. Don't work like that. Here's the crazy thing, man. is y'all get any of the people that are baseball fans, they get excited, they go crazy if a dude is batting 350, dude. We go out there and we tackle 350, we're done.

That means we miss seven tackles, bro. If we go to go 300, we miss seven tackles out of 10. You won't keep your job. No. Same thing with these offensive linemen. If he only blocked this man, three times in a 10, and he's successful. The quarterback gets hit upside his head, seven times. because of you, you're the worst.

You're not in the NFL anymore. Like, if you go and you get a sack every eight plays, 10 plays, that's bad for a tackle. You go in 40 passes. He averaging four a game. You do that over 16 games or seven, sorry, 17 games. Come on now. It ain't even never heard of. You're talking about 68 tackles.

That ain't happening. 68 sacks, rather. That ain't happening. Like, it's hard to get up there and win. Everything got to come together. Your cover's got to be on point. You got to be done and got there in time to where the quarterback don't see it and can't get rid of it without intentionally ground in it or something. Like, it's a lot of things that got to come together.

And there's multiple times where you beat somebody and it's just, oh, he got it off. Like, everything got to come together. Yeah, so I ain't putting it on T. I think T.J. He did. He just, when they don't see splash, plays, strip, sacks. and all that, you know what I'm saying? They're like, why does he make it so much money?

No question. What's this? One batch, two batch, $10. One batch, two batch, $10. $19 seasons. Four of those had playoff wins. Eight and 13 in the playoffs. Five of those wins came from 08, 2010,

where we were legendary defense. Thankfully, for everything Tomlin has done, it is time to move on. I agree with you. Those were legendary defenses, and those defenses were already here. We'll get inside. Anyway, okay, Joe. She said, okay.

Well, okay, Joe, like we said, we're going to look at a lot more into this game and the season, and I'm going to be back here. What are you talking about? Who is this? Yeah, why would you even do that. That's stupid.

You're a fool. Look here. No, I don't. I do it. Look here. Let's go. What you told? What happened, Devo? Somebody I know. Somebody I know. Yeah. Oh.

Somebody I know. Anyway. Get out to chat. Look here. What time is it? 12.18? Hey, man. Come on back here Friday. We go go into detail, more detail.

about what we feel need to be done, where we got to go, how we got to get it done. Go on from there. Joe? Is there? Be back here Friday. I'm going to have my notes and we're going to talk about what we need to do and what should be done honestly, though, to try to get it back.

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