Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe Part 1: Bills BEAT Steelers in a close game + Joey Porter Jr. extension on the Horizon

Episode Date: August 28, 2026

NFL Legend James “Deebo” Harrison & former Pittsburgh Steeler quarterback Charlie Batch react to the Buffalo Bills beating the Pittsburgh Steelers 28-27, Joey Porter Jr. extension looks like it will be coming soon for the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Browns beat the Patriots 37-13 and much more! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE and use code DEEBOJOE and get $150 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! 00:00 - Introduction 06:20 - Steelers lose to Bills 13:20 - Joey Porter Jr extension on horizon 16:10 - Browns beat patriots 18:20 - Fans protest on Jim Brown statue 26:45 - NFL nixes Pro Bowl 33:00 - NFL new rule on players returning to College (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And I am here with, not my co-hosts today, guys. But we do have somebody for you guys. Okay? What we have here is a surprise to y'all, all right? We got a Pittsburgh native. Eastern Michigan, Hall of Fame quarterback. Matt, Hall of Fame quarterback. Former.

Lions quarterback, Stilis quarterback, two-time Super Bowl champion. Co-host of the Snap Count podcast, founder of Best of the Batch, and today's guest, co-host on the Debo and Joe show, Charlotte Batch. How you doing today, brother? And I am doing well. Even better now than I'm here with you, get ready to talk some ball and everything else that comes along with it, man. So I appreciate you having me today.

Yes, sir, man. Thank you, thank you for coming on. Look here, man. I know you just got home. It was about 3 o'clock this morning doing the TV broadcast over there at Buffalo Bills, a new stadium. How did that stadium looks unbelievable, man. It really does. And they did a really nice job of all of the details inside. The only thing that concerns me with all, everything that comes along with that stadium is the back corner of those end zones. It is really tight. So the DB, or sorry, a receiver is running a corner route into that back. back pylon, there's not a lot of runway for you to slow down. That's going to be something that I'm going to pay attention to up there in Buffalo. But outside of that, man, everything else look fantastic. Man, they should be proud up there in Buffalo. Okay. Okay.

It's shorter than what they had originally? Well, the old stadium was 70,000. And now I think it's 60,000. So they eliminated those 10,000 seats. They brought everything closer. And it feels like the fans are on top of you. right behind the bench. But it's just those small corners in the back of the end zone, right where the tunnel was at.

So if you're going down and Hinesfield is a little bit, I'm sorry, I can sure as a little bit more runway off of it as you're kind of getting ready to walk up the tunnel. In this particular case, those are very tight. And I wouldn't even think that it's 10 yards that they actually have to slow down on those back corners. Look at it to say, man, if you're running a fade route, that's one thing. But if you're running a corner at full speed trying to go get that ball with the DB chasing you, of course, as he's slowing down, that's not enough. Yeah, he's going to, you know, he's going to naturally put his hand on it to try to stop. But that momentum is going to take both of them into that wall.

I hope they have a little bit of extra padding that are in those corners because that could be a potential problem. Kind of reminds me of whenever we remember when the Saints had theirs and it was not a lot of runway, but the Saints had concrete around the back of the benches. Yeah. And it wasn't until Reggie Bush didn't have enough runway and slipped on. And I think he got injured right at that particular point. And from that moment on is what they turked it all the way around. So I'm hoping that that's not the case for these players.

But that's something that they have to kind of take a look at, maybe just put some extra padding there to make sure that these players are safe. Yeah, I mean, you got to take that into account when you're doing these new stadiums, man. It's a lot more runway that's needed, especially with these athletes getting faster. strongly, you know what I'm saying? So, but look here, man, my stillers, our stillers. I can say our stillers. I'm used to saying my, because, you know, that other guy that we're on here.

But R. Stilers ended up losing 28 to 27 last night in the preseason game. We ended the season, what is it, one and two? Considering, obviously, you played the position for a long time and looking at what we have going on here with the quarterback situation. I'll start with Will Howard. How did you think he played last night? I thought Will did some really good things. He was able to get in and out of the huddle.

Always pay attention because in this West Coast system, it is very wordy. And you have to be able to now get into the huddle, get to the line of scrimm within that 15 seconds. He was able to do that. There were a lot of passes that he was able to drop the liver on time. But as the game went on, man, he was taking some shots. And that offensive line was a little spotty. and as he was releasing that football, man, he was on the ground.

And I'm pretty sure he's going to be sore today from one of those rib injuries that he potentially had. And I think later on or right before the first half, he ended up getting an injury. And I think they deemed it maybe head injury or something to that effect. I don't know if he's in a concussion protocol, but those are the reports that are coming out here today. But I thought overall he showed the grit. That's exactly what you want on the interception, was able to bounce back, get in and out of the huddle. But those are things that I like to continue to see. And I just appreciate the fact that when he did have an opportunity and Dr. Bradley came over to him.

And he's trying to talk to him and possibly remove him from the game. Will said, man, get away from me, man. I got to play. I got to play ball. And he wanted to be out there with his guys. Yeah, yeah, definitely. You know, for me, I would say it was average, you know, it wasn't, I don't know, I don't know. It seemed like maybe that interception was maybe a miscommunication of exactly, you know,

what it was that or where, you know, dude should have been. But I guess all in all, the biggest issue all night is our offensive line, brother. I'm a little worried about our offensive line, but, you know, we're getting into that. Also, Drew, how do you think Drew did? I thought Drew did okay. The people he was playing with struggled a little bit by getting open, a couple passes that should have been caught. I think overall, you know, he played a pretty good game.

And if you just look at his arm strength, man, this dude can throw. And if he is going, he probably has to be the top up there with between him and Aaron is right over there at the top. And we know Aaron has, you know, that's a story by itself as it relates to his arm strength. But Drew is right there. And he's dropping, delivering. And that ball is getting there in a hurry. And that's something that you want to see. And that's a good thing that you have with him because the armstrong wasn't a necessarily issue for me.

It was about the footwork. And can he now translate what he was doing? in practice into games, and it looks like the footwork is right there. There was only one play that I thought that maybe he could have set his feet to make the throw, and that was on a two-point conversion. When they did that, he was fading and kind of just, he had a chance to set his feet, but he was backpedaling, and it was a little bit inaccurate, and they wasn't able to pick up that two-point conversion.

But I'm with you, though, that offense alignment, and they have to figure out what they're going to do because you're about, what, 15 days away from the regular season, and they still have not named a starting five. That group has to jail together, and that is a concern with me as well. Yeah, yeah, definitely. That's a big concern.

But, you know, looking at the quarterback situation, who do you think makes the team? Because, you know, I don't know if we have room for all four just because of the roster spots that it take and with our offensive lines struggling right now. I don't know. And then when you look at it, I think Mike McCarthy had said when he was asked about the possibility of keeping four quarterbacks or where the four quarterbacks worthy of making

the 53, his response was that's a very accurate, you know, evaluation that, you know, he thought that all four could stay. But I don't, like I said, I don't think we could keep all four. How do you see it? Where do you see, you know, once we start the season? You think we have all four? Do you think it'll be three? It's great in theory when you hear Mike McCarthy say that.

Yeah, absolutely, I would like to keep four. But it's not a reality. And I look at it and since the offseason when we started talking about it, I still think it's zero percent. You can keep these guys on the initial 53, why all the other organizations build out their rosters. And then at some point, as you get closer to game time in week, one, then maybe it's kind of slipped that in there when all the roster spots are taken to

hopefully get him back, get one of those quarterbacks on the practice squad. That's going to be something that really is tough. And here's, and let me give you this scenario, James, if you had a backup that you knew that was taking your job and there's four periods in practice and you're running with the starters, how many reps are you taking out of those 10 reps? I mean, it's not, it's not too many, if any. Right. But when you're to start, you're taking all of those reps.

No, oh, you're talking about, I thought you were the starter. Oh, yeah. You were to start. You're got to get it. You're taking all of those 10 reps, right? I'm going to get at least eight. So again, if I'm now trying to compete with you, I'm getting two reps to get evaluated on. So if there's four, if there's four periods, that mean I only get eight reps of practice.

And generally, Wednesday and Thursday, that's 16 reps. Now put another quarterback in there. That means now they have to split. Hey, how many reps did you get? It wasn't many. When I was the backup, I got. more reps. If I got to number three, then you barely get any reps throughout the course of right. And that's running scout team. There's no way that you can add another quarterback into this

to now figure out how you're going to split the reps. This is not training camp. You're going from 90 to 53. That means whoever running scout team, some of those starters have to be on a scout team in order for that young quarterback to get reps. I just can't see that happening. So yes, they could potentially be on a 53 keeping four. I just don't think when we get to week one. that there will be four quarterbacks as they approach the Atlanta game just because there's not a lot of reps to develop these young quarterbacks. That's why I say a zero chance of having four quarterbacks on your 53 man. And then on top of that, Debo, that means now on game day, you have three spots that are inactive. Gone.

Yep. Yeah. Yeah, gone. You know, like I said, I'm with you. And, I mean, like you said, it sounds good. you know, of course, you want to have and instill confidence in all the quarterbacks that you have and the possibility of them being able to go out there and start. But the reality of it is, it's not really much of a reality.

And like you said, with the season starting, you got to get it done. And with the season starting, we have a possibility of where the Steelers, you know, could possibly sign Joey Porter, I guess, because yesterday they did some restructuring of D.K. Medcaps-K. track. I think they freed up. I guess it was almost 18 million in cap space. And a lot of fans are anticipating that that move was to pave way for Jory Porter's extension. So with that, what, that happening? What do you think is the process? Because I actually ended up looking at some stuff. And it, um, I don't like to, you know, count my chickens before they hatch. But distillers kind of needed to create some cap space because offseason rules state that you only have to

count your what top 51 highest paid contracts that actually go against the cap. So once the season starts, it's now 53 players, plus your practice squad. And then you have your IRA. And then you have your IR players that have to go into that. I mean, it's $20 million of space that they created. I'm just being, I guess, devil's advocate a little bit and not wanting to get ready for something that I don't know is going to happen, especially when you look at what we were talking about last week where he hadn't even had got an offer yet. So what do you read into this?

Yeah, I'm on the fence here, and I would like to be optimistic because you're like, oh, yes, they're freeing up some money. But am I next? Then again, why did you wait this long? We could have talked about this in the offseason, you know, earlier in the off season. So when you have a self-imposed deadline in the manner that we have here, and, you know, Sunday decision has to be made because he's still on PUP. And if he's still on P-U-P, are you going to keep him on there or are you going to remove him from there? So if you remove him from P-UP, that means now you still got to get a contract done. He's going to, if he's not practicing right now, but that self-imposed deadline is the Saturday before their first game. And once that happens, the Steelers generally don't negotiate contracts once the season starts. So it's all going to come to a head in these two weeks. I'm hoping that it gets done, but there's not many options right now over the next 10 days by either getting it done or something on Sunday is going to have to occur as a relation to getting it done or maybe they move on and the trade happens.

I just don't get a feeling. I don't know either direction. I've talked to both sides and I just don't get a sense of where they, both are as we're sitting here three days away from cuts. Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches, there's a lot of suspense. Will they finally eat the veggies? Will the pasto survive the first bite?

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players on your defense, on your team. So, but I guess we'll, we'll find out time to tell, and we'll, we'll see. Hopefully it's, uh, is good news, but we don't know. The Browns, though, they went over here and they put a little Uwee over there on the Patriots, 37 to 13. Dylan Gabriel, he came out there and he, he, I ain't go lie, he played his ass off 12, 15, 186, three tutties. Do, like, it's crazy.

Like, I don't, but. this is why I really don't count too much into like weighing that preseason stuff. You know what I'm saying? I don't know who was out there, what was going on. But from what you've seen from him, this last game, like, do you think people have an argument to say that he should be fighting for at least a number two position as a quarterback for the Cleveland Browns? Yeah, I don't think that necessarily the case.

You know, he played last year, has a lot of game experience. but where they are right now from an evaluation perspective is Shador and is Deshaun Watson. And those two are your top two. Yes, he had a really good game. And I'm looking at it. And as I watched those highlights, it was a guy playing for his career. Because if he doesn't go out there against that defense and put up those numbers, they can say, wait a minute, you're not the quarterback who he thought you were and potentially move on from you.

But it wasn't the case. He solidified his roster spot. but I think it's going to come at three. I just think when you look at the Cleveland situation, Shador, I think he has a little bit more of an advantage right now over Dillon. But the reason why Shador is not starting is because Deshaun Watson is owed guaranteed money this season. And there's no owner that's going to allow him to sit on a bench and collect his money. So that's why he's going to be the week one starter.

It doesn't mean he's going to end the season that way. And then things can change as that quarterback rotation goes along. But back to your original question, I do not think that Dylan, will have his name into the hat that overtakes your door for number two. Yeah, I don't, I don't see it happening neither. I'm with you on that. But they still got more problems over there in Cleveland. I guess according to, I guess, ESPN AP report,

someone took multiple signs and put them on the Jim Brown statue outside the Brown stadium in protest of the organization's decision to start to shine Watson. We got some photos right here. Go ahead and put them up. So I guess one of the signs that was attached to Jim Brown's statue said $280 million, 27 plus victims, zero supporters. Another sign called for Watson's presence on the team, called Watson's presence on the team. Carl Watson's presence on the team, a permanent damage to the city and franchise.

I know it's not anything right now that I think that he could really do. I thought it was $230 million, but 20, well, it initially ended up, well, it ended up being 24 women that ended up following the civil lawsuit. He denied all the stuff. They had actual two grand juries that declined to indicting. He was never criminally charged. But the NFL did find that he violated the personal conduct code under their definition. The NFL used a different interpretation and basically what it came down to is all they needed to do was establish that it was more likely than not that this stuff had happened. And Chuck, you and I know where is that much smoke?

got to be a little bit of fire. Okay. And I know he wasn't criminally charged because when you do the criminal charge, it's beyond a reasonable doubt. So obviously there was doubt. That's why he wasn't charged with it. But that doesn't matter. But what I want to go to is you put this on Jim Brown's statute, the man who is the

greatest running back and player for the Cleveland Browns, y'all have ever had. one of the best running backs to ever do it in the NFL. He led the league in rushing eight times. He only played nine seasons. He had 12,000, 12,000, sorry, 12,000, 3 hundred and 12 yards rushing, 106 touchdowns, three-time NFL MVP, and helped Cleveland win a championship, an NFL championship in 1964. that's just his football accomplishments, okay? And he is one of the first black superstar athletes, dude,

to use his status for the civil rights movement. Okay, you can look it up and see all the things that he did and everything he was involved in. Now, we're talking about the 60s. He played from 1957 to 65. When this country had legal segregation, dude, And I mean, you had actual presidents dude that ran a platform on segregation. He put his life at actual risk to try and better this country.

Like, this is the same man that helped broker a peace deal with the Cripsom Bloods. Like, what was that, the 1992 Watts gang truce in L.A., designed to reduce gang violence. Like, his status is more than football. And, like, dude, for you to actually go and just throw that on there, like, I hate Browns. I wouldn't say hate. I dislike Brown's players. But Jim Brown is something different. You could have put that sign anywhere, man.

Like, you had a whole backdrop over there. You could have put that signs on. Like, it just don't make no sense to me, man. How do you feel about this, man? Yeah, it's tough. Everything that you just mentioned. And it just tells me that maybe there was a younger generation that wasn't as familiar with everything that you just talked about as a relates to what Jim Brown's bio is. But, you know, he's in that stadium for a reason he is the icon of that organization.

Maybe they're putting it on there to maybe put visibility there because they know people now will gravitate to that statue and it's going to get more eyes on their sign. That's the only thing that I could potentially say with that. I know the Brown's fans are frustrated because they have, haven't had much production over the last four years with Deshaun Watson. But again, that's his, there's always due diligence that come with the organization. They were fine with everything that happened because they guaranteed his deal. And anytime that that happens, and we know the security teams that all of these organizations have, they start doing background checks from the time that you are in elementary school all the way through.

So they have that information. So the Browns were comfortable with that. So you'll still have some people that are frustrated with it with those signs. I just think it was wrong to put it on that particular statue because you should not include Jim and the same managers talking about Deshaun. Yeah. I'm pretty sure. I'm not going to even put this on the Cleveland fan base. I'm going to put this on somebody that just didn't have a whole full comprehension or understanding because there's no way that you would do that with the knowledge that I have, you have that a lot of people in my generation have.

So I'm going to have to agree with you that it got to be somebody that didn't fully think this out. Because if you fully thought this out and that was your option, you are uncouth. Like, just go out there, man, take the stuff down and put them somewhere else today. Just do it. Just do it today. You can throw them on all the stop signs around Cleveland if you want to. That still ain't going to change the decision that they done made about starting Watson. And you can't take back the money that you already got.

Like, I understand. upset, but try, try a different way, man. You could protest, but don't do it on, Jim. Absolutely. And I think that's where, you know, you get people get upset because they think the decision was Coach Munkins, the head coach there, about his selection of the quarterback. It's not his selection. Todd Munkin, who I've known over 30 years, and I don't even know if you know this story,

Debo, Todd Munkin was my receivers coach at Eastern Michigan back in 1995, 96. That's how far me and him go back with Munkin up here before he, you know, went on and the coaching tree in the manner that he is now. So I know how he's wired. He knows offense. He knows ball. The challenge is he could have felt that maybe Dylan, maybe Shador, were better quarterbacks, better prospects for long-term future as a relation to who the quarterback

is going to be after this season. Unfortunately, when you have these conversations that are happening, Coach Munkin has to now absorb all of that energy that's happening from the fans because the decision is above him. The owner is telling him who's starting. There's no way in heck, what is he do? $45, $46 million that he's paid is you're guaranteed. Again, the owner's not going to have it.

I don't know, Charlie, we talked. Listen, me and Joe talked to the gym, Andrew Barry or Cleveland Browns, and he said the money of what he's getting paid is not going to affect and will not affect their decision of who is going to be the starting quarterback. And that's fine.

But again, he is now taking that responsibility because he has a general manager role. There's no general manager that's going to stand up on a podium that's going to say, you want to what my owner told me that I have to start him. It's like, no, they're going to say it's my decision. But when you look at what's happening, because if it wasn't about money, Deshaun would have been gone. But you can't cut him. This is true.

You can't cut him. Because that means now you're $125 million and did cap space. So that argument doesn't hold water if money was not a factor. So that's all I'm going to say on that particular case because, again, at this time of year, general managers, coaches lie because nobody is going to put them, throw their owner under the bus. It's just not going to happen. Okay. I'm going to go ahead and slide up off that, baby. Look here, man.

The NFL, they ditched the pro blow. The league is doing away with the annual All-Star game beginning. this season, instead opting to name a 88 player class to the Pro Bowl with no replacement selections and honor them with the celebration. The NFL revealed the change Wednesday in a press release noting that Pro Bowlers would be invited to an in-person celebration in Los Angeles the weekend when the Pro Bowl games would be traditionally held. bro.

I'm going to tell you this. Like, I'm, I guess I'm cool with it. I'm more than cool with it. Like, like, when you go, you, like, when I first went to the Pro Bowl, so I'll give you that story. So personally, for me, you know, they should have did away with this thing a long time ago the first time I went there. because when I first went there in 2000, it was 2007. So it would be 2008 season. It wasn't even a real game then.

Like, you know, when I made my first pro bowl that year, you know, I was like, okay, they had the player competitions and all that stuff, you know, where you go in there and you do like the 225 rep stuff and all that stuff. Right. So I'm getting ready and, you know, I'm like, yeah, I'm going there and do the, you know, 225 rep test that I die. I'm trying to, I'm trying to kill. I think it was like 43 or something that I think it was somebody did some lineman did like the year

before I was training for that right that's what that's what I'm doing C B like I'm bruh they's like yeah we stopped that I'm like all right cool so I get up there and you know this is my first pro bowl so I'm excited you know I'm ready I'm ready to go and dude it was a real life like eye-opened experience, like, and not in a good way. Like, like practice. So practice, we get there, we're practicing. And the first, you know, we're doing a little warm-up and all that. You know, you ain't going that fast and warm-up, whatever.

So we get into the practice thing, and I'm moving like I'm regular practice. You know what I'm saying? They're like, whoa. And like, whoa, baby, slow down. I'm like, what you mean, slow down? Like, no, we ain't going. We don't do that, man. we ain't going that fast.

What you doing? I'm like, all right, cool, whatever. They don't do this in practice, right? So cool. Whatever. So we get there, we get to the game, right? So I'm starting, it's kickoff, right? So I'm on kickoff and I'm flying down there like it's a regular game, man.

I run down there, man, and I think it was Jason Went, man. And I just blah, blah, I'm doing trying to get to the tackle, right? I come to the I come back into the huddle, right? And boys, no, we ended up getting back to the sideline after we did our series. And the boy Ray said, man, Ray and Ed said, what, what Jason wouldn't do to you, man?

I said, he ain't do nothing. He said, well, why do you do that? I said, man, I'm playing ball. No, man, no, we don't go hard like that. I'm like, okay. So I'm out of line all the way around, you know what I'm saying? Like, they should have did away with that then, in my opinion, because by time I made, like, you know, my second or third Pro Bowl, dude,

I'm like, I don't even really want to, like, be here. Like, just have us do something else because, like, this ain't even a real game. You know what I'm saying? What do you think? No, I'm with you on it. And this is something that's been, you know, in the works for a long time. You know, 20 years ago, you almost did a date. And I remember being at the Pro Bowl out there, we were all out there celebrating Willie.

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How to Live Forever on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And when that happened, And you can just see everybody else like, Sean, you're just very similar conversations that were going on on on the sideline. And then it wasn't until a couple years later, we were all out there. And that was the game where when the game started and they hiked the football, it was almost like a glorified walkthrough.

And they didn't take everybody down to the ground. And immediately after that season, we were in competition committee meetings. And this is when I was on the executive committee for the NFLPA. So we're sitting in the competition committee, and Troy Vincent walks in and he says, hey, man, what is this? And he shows the first two plays. And he's like, well, no what, that's it. You know, we got to figure out a way to resolve this and keep this game relevant. If not, we're going to have to make those changes.

And that was almost 20 years ago. But when we got to 2010 during those CBA agreements, the Pro Bowl conversations came up. And it was one of those things, how can you kind of keep that? but the argument from the PA side was players don't want to play in this game because if they're up for a contract and get injured, now they miss out. And that's why you started seeing the structure of the game slow down to the point of what you're seeing it now into flag. They tried to do a lot of different creative things,

making it, you know, doesn't matter what conference you're in. You could be on the same team. All of that fun stuff, I get it. But at the end of it, it was about the players that were in contract. that yes, they wanted to be there and are taking up a space because they want to be a pro bowler, but yet don't want to play in a game. And that's where the conversation started going. And that's why you see it here where it went to flag.

And of course, the ratings are down. And now it's eliminated. So I understand it. I get it as players. Yes, you don't want to be in that game. You want the recognition because there are incentives that are tied to your contract. But at the same time, you don't want another game to possibly risk an injury that now may impact your career moving forward.

Yeah, and it has no bearing on if you're going to get paid anyway because you making it is the accolade that you wanted anyway. That's going to help you get more money. So, yeah, I'm with you. I think they should have did away with it a long time ago. Also, they just now, NFL teams were informed that players who return to college will not be permitted to return to the NFL during. the 2026 season. So according to Adam Schaffner, a player signed to an NFL contract who is

cut, who is sequentially cut is a free agent. He may sign with another NFL club, the CFL, or return to college. But the player is considered a free agent and will not be submitted, will not be subjected to a future draft. So, So what they did was they went to not letting them get into the draft and you couldn't come back in that same year. So I don't know if you know this, Charlie, but a guy named James Harrison suggested this on, I believe it was, what's today? August 24. And then on the 26th, the NFL put into play this right here. So I'm not saying that they listening or that somebody called me to maybe show appreciation for my thoughts or idea.

Maybe they thought my idea was a little too much because I wanted them totally out of there. So you know what I'm saying? I said if you leave and you go back to college, you can't come back to the end. NFL period. But what the NFL did is they said, hey, you can't come back this year, but you could come back next year, but you can't reenter the draft in 2027. You could come and get picked up as maybe a free agent. What do you think of this policy? Yeah, I like it. I mean, it's one of those things because your draft year is where you are. of course, if you go back, you dominate your one year of older than a lot of the players that you're playing with your draft stock can go up, which can make you some more money as you enter in the NFL.

I think that part of it is fair to not allow those guys to now be draft eligible, so to speak. But I think when you look at just these players that are returning back to college, it's a small group. And I think it's that small group of from 2022 where the rule was passed that you now get five years for your eligibility. and because that particular group in 2022 is now fighting for that fifth year back. And that's why I think that happened. And, of course, that player was going to make more money in college than he would just on his actual NFL salary. So I understand why he went back.

So they're trying to get ahead of this to make sure that these players aren't dipping back and forth off of it. But I think once we get past this wave, I'm hoping that you don't see this again. But this is just something that is never going to change. who knows what the next process is going to be because every player that is in collegiate level or leaves exiting has the right to sue to get eligibility back. So when is this going to end? You did have the conferences that talked about we're not allowing these players to now enter into our leagues,

but then there was just a lawsuit that was filed recently in Texas that allow a player to sue to go back into those conferences because they say those conferences are not the judge. jury. So again, this is not, this is a never-ending battle currently on what we're seeing here. And I think it's just this one-year issue. I don't think it's going to be moving forward. That's just my opinion. Okay. I think if you allow it now, you set precedent to where now other people can come back through and say the same thing. Maybe it's because of injury. Maybe it's because of something else. But if you allow it now, then that's going to be an issue.

into the future. And when you look at it, the Sorsby kid that, you know, he wanted to, he went and fought and did the whole thing and he was coming back and all that. And you know what? They didn't even set a rule in place. They said, you know what? This is what y'all want to do. This is what your university is going to do. You're going to allow him back. You're going to have him on a team. Hey, this AD said, hey, we're not playing you guys in any sports, period. So that's, that is what ended up happening there to where they didn't even have to make the rule or worry about it because they say, you know what, if you're going to keep him, we're going to make sure that you can't do anything with any of your athletes. Now you're going to go ahead and sacrifice the whole college athletic program for one person.

No, no. Like, and like you said, that wasn't something that, oh, the law says you can't do it. No, you can't make somebody to play somebody. Right. I don't give them what you do in court. What court you go to? you got a plan. No, the hell we don't.

We got to play them forfeit. Whatever it may be. We ain't even go schedule. We don't schedule you. You ain't got nobody to play. And because that player can't go back to that university, if he goes to a smaller university, if he's a top recruit in a country,

and all of a sudden he ends up in a Mid-American conference, which we both love. And he puts up big numbers. You know what I mean? It's like, okay, yeah. But again, are you playing? against the competition, but again, if you're not allowing him to be in there. So it's a conversation that will continue to have.

It's just one of those things to where I think the NFL is saying, we cannot allow those players to now reenter the draft and better what their draft status looks like. And now a team that wasn't on the radar last year now gets the opportunity to draft that particular person when maybe they hadn't evaluated lower in a draft a year prior to. Yeah, and plus, like, I ain't going to lie. If it's me, and you're telling me, oh, they allowed this, and now that's what it's going to do.

And I came out and I ended up get seven, and I can go back and ball out and come around at a one or a two. Yes, I'm gone. Absolutely. I'm gone. And, like you said, again, you're getting paid now. Sit over here or go back for a couple of meals to play for one more year in college. I'm going back to play.

When you went back to play. You're going back to play. especially when your salary is almost double what your NFL salary is going to be. So this is just the lay of the land where we're at and know a lot of people don't like it. Nobody likes the status of what the NCAA is, but they made their bed. They could have got ahead of this a long time ago. They choose to turn the deaf ear to it. And now this is what we're seeing years later.

And it's just unfortunate. And it's turned a lot of people off from college football because, one, you're paying the players, which you should pay the players as well. but ultimately all of these transfers and there's no loyalty to schools and you're not getting a player who was a freshman and like man by the time he gets to his junior year he's going to be that dude like you're not hearing those stories anymore because now when these teams players are coming into the league they haven't been already three teams already so what does that look like for them coming in so it just again this is this is this generation that we're in man and it's it's not going away anytime soon yeah it's the it's the wild wild west i think what they should have did is they should you know what let's go go ahead and start behind closed doors and set up a whole program, a whole scheme of rules of however it is that this is what it is, this is how it's going to be instead of saying, oh yeah, everybody can get paid and we don't have no rules about what it is that you could do in that process of it. So, you know, they set them, like you said, they set their cells up for this. You know.

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