Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Mike McCarthy expectations, Jarvis Landry GOES OFF on Stefanski, JSN GETS PAID!

Episode Date: March 23, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to the latest Pittsburgh Steelers updates regarding Aaron Rodgers retirement decision, former Cleveland Browns WR Jarvis Landry going off on Kevin Stefanski, Jaxon Smith-Njigba becoming the highest paid WR in NFL history after reaching an extension with the Seattle Seahawks, and much more!  Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline:00:00 - Intro7:45 - CeeDee Lamb on Mike McCarthy's coaching style21:00 - Jarvis Landry calls out Kevin Stefanski26:30 - Jaxon Smith-Njigba gets paid35:30 - Joe Burrow wants to Play in Olympics (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He got eyes on me, so I got my young boy right here, you know, taking care of him, making sure he's good. So he was feeling good enough to watch, though, huh? He was feeling good to look, look. He was feeling, hey, I ain't got no problem with it, yo. Trust me. Hey, I ain't got no problem with it. Let me see him, man.

Put him on the show, man. We got a special guest. Come on in, baby. Come on, come on, come on. Show yourself, son. Show yourself. Come here. My man.

Hey, what's up. Hey, what are you doing? What's up? Here we go. And you sick? Yeah. You sick? Sick or you playing sick?

What you doing? I'm not playing sick. He's not playing sick. He's sick for real. He's going to be... He's going to be better. He's going to be better tomorrow. He's going to be better tomorrow, though.

Okay. You got a fever. You got you running the temperature, son. He had a little temperature. That's what I'm saying. He's really... Got a little temperature. Yeah, hey, we can't be sending you out there getting everybody else sick now, you know?

Hey, I see both you all got their gator on, though. See, look, Debo. Hey, them gators ain't do a damn thing, though, did they? Why you gotta be like that? Why you gotta be like that? Huh? You gotta be like that. I'm just saying, I'm still representing.

We lost at about a buzzer-beater. What's happened? Iowa got us out, dude. The hours beat us at a buzzer beater three-pointed in the corner. Why was it even close? I don't, because it's March madness. It's March madness. Anybody can win.

Anybody can win. That's why we play the game. I guess that's what you all wanted to do. Y'all ain't even take a shot. Hmm. Debo, listen, no. Come on, man. I got my son here.

Don't get me all hyped up. I'm just, Joe, I'm just talking, man. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, you know, I'm just asking questions. I see a lot of Florida going on over there. I'm just trying to figure out what's going on. I'm always going to rep my school Florida Gators, win, lose, or draw. Okay. You know how that is.

You know, you're going to rep, you, you know, if you're wrapping your school, y'all doing a lot of losing. So you're wrapping your college no matter what, ain't you? Yeah. Hey, we're in the Tony. I'm just trying to figure out how you go from winning it at all to not even making it to the 16th. Look, always next year. Always next year.

I would play the great game. I'm not going to take nothing from them. They did their thing. They did their thing. It was only one team was going to win. And it wasn't us this year. Oh, we all know it wasn't y'all. I mean, come on, Iowa.

See? Oh, man. It was Iowa, basketball, Iowa. Really? It's March Madness. They made it to the tournament. They have good players. I'm not going to knock Iowa, man.

But Florida, they, we didn't do, we didn't do what we need to do. But I'm still going to wrap him regardless. You see my team, we was number one seed, and it didn't pan out. But I was able to watch my team on March Madness. Do you watch your team? Who's your team? You know what I'm saying? You're just trying to go with my team.

I'm in the tournament. I was there. I was ready. I was hype. I love. I'm just saying, Joe. I mean, I know what nobody's saying, oh, man, I were about to go out there and do something, man. You know, you mark that day.

down. It messed up your whole. Bust my whole bracket. You're exactly right. Yes, it did. That busts my bracket. Carolina, North Carolina, who had them losing? Not me? I don't know, Joe. I mean, how many other number ones lost? I don't think no other number ones,

no other number ones lost. I had a car. I had... Devo, need me a lot. You need some water. No, man. Go, it's always go Gators. It's always go Gators, no matter what. Yeah. It's always just go gaiters no matter what, man.

Say, I understand that. Gators and Browns, you like losers. I understand that, Joe. Wow. It's okay. Hey, ain't nothing. Hey, listen, man, don't crime you, Jeff. Don't kill the messaging, man.

You know what I'm saying? I'm just speaking. We got plenty natties over here where I'm at in Florida. I got plenty natties, man. I understand. I understand. I understand, man. Joe, I understand.

I understand. Go ahead. Something that, you know, we both can get behind because, you know, it's still a related, of course. Yes, that's something we could talk about together. Yes, yeah. And my guy, C.D. Lamb, yo, he tells fans what to expect from Mike McCarthy. He said, just coming in, he's a great time.

As soon as he walks in the building, you're going to fill his energy. You're going to feel what he wants to do. He wants to go vertical with the ball. And I'm going to tell you that right now, but he's going to do everything. He said, he's going to tailor his offense. and get things situated, but he's Pittsburgh down. Everything that he's done has been out of love, man. Again, that's another guy that I feel like I would run through a wall for.

This man said, this about Mike McCarthy, baby. I love that. You a wall for this, man. That's what the man said when they asked him, hey, man, what is Pittsburgh getting in Mike McCarthy? brother. He said, oh, my God, a great guy. He loves Pittsburgh. That's my man. I love Mike. That was his words. That's his words. That was his words, Joe. Okay. I'm going to take him at his word. No question. I'm going to take him as word. I think CD, I like the way he moved. I like the way he's vibes. I think that he's a pretty good judge of character as far as coaching.

Yes. And if he says that, I'm going to take it. run with it. And I'm thinking that our team, this is what we need. This is, and the one thing I like is, at the end of the day, Debo, defense, obviously, we're going to have to get our defense tightened up, alignments, assignments, techniques. Nobody running free, nobody getting blasted off their spot. So we're going to figure that out.

But we ain't seen the ball go down the field in a while and really how you get the ball down the field, though. Huh? You know how you get the ball down the field, Joe? You got to run the ball well. You got to run the ball well, Joe. You got to run the ball well. Exactly. came in a 21. He took an offense that was ranked 17 in the rush.

I think it was 14 total offense. And he improved that rush offense to a nine. And it was the number one total offense. He added the rush game to make the defense have to defend both. When you do that, you open up other things. But you got to. establish the run. You got to establish the line

of scrimmage, brother. You got to establish a line of scrimmage. You got to stay ahead of the sticks. Yes. Once you don't get yourself in the position and be looking crazy in third and longs where they know that they're going to come after your quarterback's head, we're behind the six.

No. When we stay ahead of the chains, they don't know if it's going to be run a pass. They can't stay too high. They have to drop a safety down into the box respects that opportunities, those one-on-ones that we need. What do you say? They go to vertical game.

They go to vertical game. I'm with it. I'm with it. There are two big bodies now. Two big bodies. We've got two big bodies going down field. Both of them like to get physical in that run game too. We can't forget about Mount Washington.

I think Mount Washington is going to be a big, big part of the blocking game and the catching game. Oh, yes. Now, listen, man. Man, stop it. You make like Fire Move ain't there. You know what I'm saying? No, Fire Move is there. Stop tripping, man.

What are you talking about? Fire Move is a thousand percent there. And I know. And we're going to use him too. Because that's the part. Whenever Fire Move was on the field, he was catching the ball. We just didn't use him enough. We was using Janu a little bit more, you know.

So now we got my man, FireMoof. He's getting paid. So now play him. We got Mount Washington still. So both of them, we got two. Perfect. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

Yes, sir. And see, when ain't nobody really saying nothing about, you know what I'm saying? What's the boy's name? Sebastian Joseph Day. That is an interior defense in lineman that was picked up. Real stout in the running game. Man eats up blocks, okay? Holds his ground, clogs up the running lanes, okay?

High motor do. He liked doing the dirty work. He liked doing the dirty. You know what that dude, Joe? That allow your inside linebackers to run to be free. Because three, four defense is made for your linebackers to run, make the plays. And on top of that, Joe, he doesn't want to ship. He won a ship over there with the Rams.

So, you know, he knows what it takes. He knows. Bring us a pedigree. They see, what are you talking about? It's there, Joe. He's there. And then another one, hey, Quine Bristker, the safety, we scooped him.

Mm-hmm. Physical. Tone set him. Yes. They're a football kind of guy. Okay? He could play in the box. He blitzing.

He got, he got, he gets you that deep coverage too now. Yes. You know what else? Because he's so good. You know what making good, Joe? What's up? Like a good play recognition. He reads it and he goes and gets it.

Okay. Okay, that's what we need. And this is what I'm trying to tell you, Debo. I think with the defense alignment and people being on their job and not letting the lineman, let the officer alignment get to Queen, I think he's going to have a way better year. When I go back and look at it, when he's, he's shooting his gaps. He's, he's not afraid. You know what I'm saying? He's running. He's hitting. He's going to do what he has to do. But I think some of the times when you get a free lineman up on you that doesn't have to go block, he's literally on you with an angle, like, that's kind of tough sometimes. So I think if you, like you said, we get these D-Lyman that could really just hold your ground. Like, it's not for you to make the play

every time. Stop trying to go under people. Like, you stand right here, and that's going to make Queen be free so he can be way more active and he's going to make a lot more tackle so he can scrape and make play. Because he's fast enough sideline to sideline. He's not scary. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just, when I'm looking at, I'm like, I believe he's 26. He's young. He's not. I'm Luke Wilson. Join me each week for Film Never Lies. Since retiring from the NFL, I've had a lot of my mind, and now I've got my own show. So if you're tired or lazy takes, if you want honest conversations, join us each week. Film Never Lies, available on all TSN platforms in the IHeartRadio app.

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and run through there and pop the running backs, make plays on them. But it's hard to you get that guard on you. Like you're trying to, you fight through your life. He's not even that, dude. It's, I'm sitting here at my depth. And before I get to take a step, I'm back here with the D. Lyman and the lineman that he got pushed back by. And now you're trying to fit into a spot that you weren't meant to fit in.

Yeah. You know, you got a guy now that is going to take two. They're going to need to to move him. He's going to clog up these running lanes. He's going to make it difficult. He eats up blocks. He's not a guy that you go see crazy on the stat sheet. Why?

Because he is a run game dominant. Casey Hampton is a dude that should be in the Hall of Fame. No, he should be in a Hall of Fame. But you won't see him because the numbers don't say it. But his play. Him being there. Man, it ain't too many people that I think is better than him. I can't even really name one to be 100% honest with you.

No, for sure. I mean, when you say that, Debo, a lot of the times when dudes are on the team with players and he might not get all the tackles, but it's like, if he wasn't there, I wouldn't have made my play. You know what I'm saying? He's in his position so then I can be in my position. So thank you, you know what I'm saying, for not being selfish trying to make my play. You know what I'm saying?

When you got your gap, I got my gap. When he comes into your gap, you're going to make the play. When he comes into my gap, I'm going to make the play. So when you have just dudes that are like players, teams, you're going to make the play. So when you have just dudes that are like players, team, team guys, this is my gap. I know he's not coming here. Somebody else has play to make. You know what I'm saying?

Those are just the dudes that it goes unnoticed for the stat sheet. But coaches and players, you know. Like you say Casey having to be the best. And they're like, his stats might not show up. But no other, like he let so many other people run free and make so many plays because he's doing his dirty work. Everybody got some dirty today job. And especially when you're talking about the D-Lignment, you're not going to get all the

stuff. and you get the sacks and you know what I'm saying, but you holding down your job, the center, the guard, taking two, letting your lineback and go free and just make a play. That's what teammates, like good teammates, good dudes, like you, me, people that watch tape you like this, that dude's a baller. I was like, oh, he only had 23s, it doesn't matter how many tackles he had. He wasn't getting moved out of his way. How many MEs?

Zero. How many missing assignments? Zero. The dude was on point, every play. He did exactly what he needed to do. So like the splash stuff, when you see dudes, oh, that. yeah, that's all good. But there's 70 plays a game where this dude is literally just holding it on, holding his own, like locking people down so everybody else can scrape and make play.

So when you get dudes like that, like you say, these tackles that don't care about nothing else but doing their job, I'm not going to let these men get to my backer. Boom. Oh, my goodness, we love you. Thank you. You're going to make our defense so much better. It's not going to show from your stats, your numbers, but everybody else eating is because of you. And we appreciate it, big man. So, like, that's, you need them dudes. Yeah, that combo block where, you know, you got the, you got the center and the guard, they go combo up to the linebacker. You ain't going to be going up now.

You ain't, you ain't leaving. You ain't off in them too fast. He's going to make the play and destroy it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And none of that happening, baby. Ain't none of that going down. No, that's doing that D-line.

They just dogs up there. It goes unnoticed, but do you need them? No question, man. CBS sports, I guess Pete Prisco. I guess it is. He dropped us down to 20 in the latest power rankings. Who cares, whatever? He says, in light of the horrible quarterback position of the franchise.

He says, they're waiting patiently on Aaron Rogers to make a decision as whether he will play. Looks like he will. New coach Mike McCarthy has hope he does because they aren't a lot of options left. Joe, we already know. knew this, man. But, you ain't watching what's going on. It's right here.

This ain't no breaking news. You must not have nothing else to write about, baby. But it's cool. We get to talk about it. So, you know, hot couple seconds. That's really good. We know ain't nobody there.

We know we waiting on Rogers, but we building everything around to make sure that whoever steps in there has a great chance of being successful because all the other pieces are in place. you build a team. You build a team. You know, obviously quarterback is the number one position,

but when you have other holes, you're just trying to get you the best team possible. So then when you get that quarterback in there, we saw a rye, you know what I'm saying, if you're all waiting on them. Mike McCarthy, who do you want? Do you like Will? Do you like, I know you like ARA.

ARO comes here. It's a smooth, it's a smooth transition, but I'm just wanting to see who McCarthy feels. I ain't worried about him, though. down there, I'm having a conversation. Mike, you know what I'm saying? Have me some FaceTime. Call at him.

See where his head is that, Debo. See where his head is that, man. See where, you know, what we got going on. It ain't up, but I ain't chicken, why, and you feel me? No. The draft coming up and all that. Or the draft coming up, Pittsburgh School said, yo, they're about to switch to remote learning during the draft, yo.

What do you think of that, you know? I think that Pittsburgh is just being smart. Just a couple days, kids do a little virtual. They got a lot of people coming into the city, moving around. Solid. Let the kids have a little couple days. They still get the learning. They still going to be having a couple of times they got to do.

I'm not mad at it. I'm all for it. Yeah. You got to think about it. I think they're anticipating, what, 700,000 people to be in the city of Pittsburgh for the driver. You're talking about 700,000 people, an additional 700,000. You know how it is.

with just what we regularly have, bro, to get anywhere in the city, you got to cross over a bridge somewhere. They're trying to block stuff. That ain't no more than one lane, too, if you're lucky. So you're talking about a nightmare, dude. Like, if you're trying to transport these kids

and get them to school on time, they'd say, you know what? Let's slowly roll down. Let's just chill. Let's get this virtual. Man, a couple days. You know what I'm saying? And shit, they might not even get home.

home at the school until about, you know, five, six, seven o'clock. That's what I'm saying. If they did something like that in school, letting out it too. Mm-hmm. Yep, I think it's my move. I think in the NFL said they had nothing to do with it. I just think it's people making just normal decisions that's not, you don't got to overthink it.

Common sense decisions, Joe. It's not so common. That's the problem. It's crazy. I'm like, no, they're just doing something that's like, okay, boom, that's smooth. A lot of kids, there's going to be a lot going to. on let's just take three days they'll be out of here and then we go back to the regular schedule programming yeah that's easy work man look man uh let's go on over here to see where the Cleveland

got going I guess the former Browns wide receiver Jarvis Landry brother he had said something on this podcast about his time in Cleveland and uh he said you expect most of these coaches that are younger to be more personable more reliable with the their players, and in most cases, it just doesn't work out that way. He also noted that after Stefansky earned Coach of the Year honors and the team reached the playoffs, the connection between the players and the head coach began to fade, Joe. It began to fade, Joe. Did you ever play with Jarvis?

You didn't play with him. No, I didn't. I talked to Jarvis all the time. I'm probably going, he hit me up yesterday. So we, yeah, he's trying to get me on a, I'm going to go out to Miami and get on this pod. Okay, okay. I'm gonna get him out on us. I mean, man, did win, Coach of the year, what was the 2020,

George was there in 21. I don't know, Joe, what do you think of this, what do you think of this statement, or should I say, of him actually just saying it, I guess? This is all I'm saying. We were just talking about, who was talking about, who was just talking about Coach McCarthy? We had C.D. Lamb talking about his coach.

Coach said win away he's not no longer his coach but he asked about him and he gave his honest opinion how he felt about the coach. When Jarvis Landry was talking about how he feels about Stefanski, the relationship just isn't the same. He just feels Jarvis don't got no reason to lie. He's going to be honest and that's the one thing you're going to get from. He's not going to just bash nobody or say nothing for no reason. He's not going to make something up to get to get people to say, no. He's just talking honest and that's one thing is just people. Like, why would you say, I'm not going to sit there and talk about my coach's relationship while I'm on the team.

This is in real time happening. No, like, I'm a professional. I'm going to keep it as professional as possible while I'm playing. Like, why would you say this stuff now, like for people that say that? Because I'm a professional. I'm not going to be trying to go out, my coach did it up. But once you're retired, once you're out of the game and you ask me an honest question, now I can give you my honest answer. And I'm not, I wouldn't do that in the locker room because I'm a pro.

I know what it looks like I'm trying to keep all this together. The team is the team. That's going to be outside noise. Downs like this, oh, you're thinking about yourself. I'm like, no, no, no, that's why don't you do it when you're playing? Because I'm a team player. It's not about me. It's not about trying to get this stuff out, like how my personal relationship is.

But I don't like him. He don't really like me, but we have a job to do, and I'm going to go to work, and I'm going to handle my business. So then once you get out and somebody asks you something, and you're answering it a little different, like, oh, no, that's how you, I'm like, yes, because I'm a pro, and I didn't want to make it a big thing. That's what you do. You go about your business and you handle your business.

Now, since I'm out, we're chilling, I'm viving up. You want to ask me a question. We're chopping it. Now we're talking. I can really let you know what was going on, how I really felt, how the relationship was. You know what I'm saying? So I think that's what it is with Landj. I don't think it's no hate, no harm.

The same way CD talked about good things about Mike McCarthy or whatever, you know what I'm saying? If he had, if he had felt it didn't type of way, I think he would have said, I don't know, like, you know, somebody kind of rubbed me. He was cool, but not really my cup of tea. And it was about, okay, boom. Like, okay, his relationship wasn't there. Certain people have different relationships with different people. So.

They want different relationships because of how they interact or how they're people. Yes, yes. That's what I'm saying. For sure. That's. So, like, my interaction with that person may be different than how they treat you and what you guys got going on. So if somebody asks them how what happened, I think that's why.

Yeah. Yeah. So here's the thing, Joe. Yes. You and I both know that no one is going to tell the whole and complete truth about what's going on at an organization while they're there. Yes. Yes.

And most guys won't even tell after they're done depending on how unpopular. Yes, yes, yes. Okay. And a lot of organizations go. along with the popular narrative as long as it doesn't make the organization look bad because it's just easier. So for them to, you know, come out and say something afterwards, now everybody questions it because they're like, well, why didn't you say something before? Because, like, he was here, we're not going to do anything that's going to be more detrimental to our team and, you know, make it, make it harder. Yeah.

And I look like complete. And, bro, it's been, it's been that way and it's go, it's going to stay that way. Like, forever. Like, like, what was the movie? Wilson, God Lord. Focus. Okay. Where, where his dad popped him and he said, hey, you die with the lie, Mello, and you just might.

Like, hey, they go die with the lie. No, for sure, for sure. Rather, it's, it's true or not true, the lie, they go die with it. matter, especially if it's unpopular to what everybody else has been saying, you know, across the timeline. Brough. Yes. Oh, we got.

What? Yes, sir. That's that. Hey, that's that. You got a little bit of news right here, man. That's a bad. How do you say that name? Jackson Smith and Jigba.

Jackson Smith and Jigba is now the highest paid wide receiver, in NFL history. Woo! Yes, he is. Deservably so. Four year, bro, 168.6 million dollar contract extension with a 120 million guaranteed.

Yes, sir. 42.15 per year average. Mm-hmm. New money leapfrogging your boy. Jamar Chase. Well, 40.25. He got an extra almost two on top of that. You understand that?

That man has a. that that's a brinks bag that's a brinks truck bag and he deserves it all way to go j s and when i did did that now the crazy part is that that's that's the you said the 120 million guaranteed that's be going to get that's three years 120 fully guaranteed he did it and now it's just the wide receiver market it just keeps getting reset and you know it's not if but when He's going to be the highest paid receiver for about, I don't know. I don't know how much longer. Not before the season starts.

Two, three years. No, no way. Debo. Who got to get paid next, man. The man had 179. Debo. Sorry, 1,793 yards receiving. He was averaging 15.1 yards per catch, 119 grabs with 10 touchdowns per.

Dibow. Can I tell you something? Super Bowl. Can I tell you something? It's not, it's the, it's the contracts, it's the agents, it's the next man up. It's the, if Puka, I think the only, it's like Puka is probably going to be right around. Pooka next? Pooka, Puga about to get a deal right now.

Puka's planning on a four year, $4 million contract. He's on this rookie deal and this going into 26th. They have to sign Puka. So this is a thing where Puka and JSA. Hey, it ain't going to last 30 minutes. Pooka and JSA. It's going to last 30 minutes. minutes.

Pooka in the 10th, they were looking. It's going to last 35 minutes. I was what I said. That's like when I signed my deal, bro. I signed my deal. And then a couple weeks later, T. Sugg signed his. Yes, Debo. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

It's just who signed first. If Pooka would have signed before JSN, JSA would have went and got a little bit more to Puka. So I think it's probably to be right around, right there, right at 43, 43, 44 year for Puka. Yeah. It's just when you hit. This is the same. It's just just numbers and the agents.

Like how are you going, it's going to be right around the same thing. But who about to get broke off too? I love to see it. They deserve it. It's just when you're up. But this is what I'm saying. The $42 million is the highest. And now we're looking at Metcalf's at 30.

So it's just, I have to, it's just a tough time of receivers getting paid. It's like, was he worth six? Is he worth seven? I'm like, dude, it's 40. The highest is 42. You know what I'm saying? So now it makes numbers look different. It's like half of that is 20.

You know what I'm saying? So you're just like 20 million for it. Now people are like, oh, is he worth 20? You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you better be nice. Half of that. They ain't nothing. But what is it?

900 y'all. You get 900, 800, 800. You get 800. 9 of y'all. Is 750 y'all 20 million? I should get 20. That's what I'm looking at agents. And the players is like it just looks crazy as the numbers go.

Because if you're the baller, if you him, you Jamar Chase, you Pooka, you JSN, you're going to be the one set in the market, nobody's playing with your money. When you're like middle area, it's like, well, what am I, okay? What am I going to do? It's by Michael Pittman Jr. I love it in that. Oh, yeah.

Like that, that's 20. That's 20. We got a deal deal deal. We got a deal deal. Good. Good. Love it. Love it.

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Damn. What miles over there getting? Miles? Yeah. 40? 40. You know, 40. Yeah, yeah.

I come in there. What do you got 20? He got 20-something sex last year. I go on and bring that down into a 10, to a 10 bar. I get a 10 bar. I only got to do what a third, something like that. What is that? A half, not even a half.

A quarter something like that. I don't know what it is, man. How? But you're talking about, you coming back? I'm coming back, Joe. Debo, look, this one I'm trying to tell you, though, that you know, they're not trying to play old heads. Joe.

They're not trying to pay old heads. Hey, I come in, I come in completely, uh, production-orientated. Just give me third down. Hey, what, Miles gave him, what? He gave him 23 for 40. My wasn't gave him 23 for 40, but like, this one's, All I want is 350 each set.

See, look, this is what I'm trying to tell you for real, though. Cam Jordan is still out there. And Von Miller is still out there. Free agents still ain't signed yet. So I'm like, you just going to skip over them? Listen, hell yeah. What you're talking about? Yeah.

Listen, I'm coming in here with minimal. They had 10 sacks last year. Both of them had 10 sacks last year. That's it. That's it. You give me for the low load. All I'm on is $350 a set. That's it.

$350 a set. $3.50 a set. And you're expecting to give us at least 10 of them, though? Hey, hey, hey. You know? You expect to give a 10 of them. Talk to it. Talk to it, Joe.

Go on, Debo. Hey, Joe, what 10 of them things is, Joe? Man, 10. You're going to get you at 3.5? A little 3.5? What 10 is? Go to you, boy, baby. Get you a cup of L.

Okay. I understand what you. trying to do. Yeah, so, man. What are you talking about? I can respect. I'll give him 20. I'll give them 20, basically, say, say 20, 40.

You know what I'm saying? D. D'B. I only got home. They're like two. And they're two mil a sack. I ain't even tripping. Give me, I, I'm even giving a bill on that, man.

You know what? I can't give them that much of a deal, man. Let me get, let me get $500 a sack. Dibo, you got, you guys. I love it. I love it. You football ready, though. You football, because I be saying you

Every time you still Hey, hey, hey, playoffs, I got to double that, though. You get, you get, you get a lot. You know, no, no, no, I need, I need a whole ticket. Hold on, no, no, no. I see your, um, I seen your IG, bro. You getting a little, you getting a little lighter. I seen that bench going down.

248, baby. 248, I'm still throwing up four in the quarter, though. Don't worry, I'm about to bring it back up. I got to bring you back up. I'm talking about getting out there. Joe, that would 248 look like, Joe. Okay. That would 248 look like, Joe.

Okay, yeah, you look healthy. You look healthy? Okay. You know? Like you eat your grains and your fruits and vegetables. You know what I'm saying? I just trying to say, man, let me go on down there. See what Mike McCarthy talking about, man.

See what Mike McCarthy talking about, man. If you were over there talking about $500 a sack, I don't know if you're going to be. Put a field out there, man. Put a field out there, man. Listen, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, man. Listen. Third down specialist.

Third down specimen. Let me see what I can do, baby. Debo, I own. Debo, I don't know. I got to go, I got to come out and see it in person. Yo, tell him you coming back. Hey, every pick you won't half. Debo.

Half mil for every pick, Joe. I'm not lying to my, I'm not getting out there. Literally, I can't. You see the way my hips is set up now. I'm good. You got to work that out. No, no, no, no, man. These boys are not getting any, they're not getting any.

They're not getting any. No, we already talked about this, man. You're not getting any slower. Make sure that you're able to go out there and do it. I'm, I'm a, but I can still. Like, I can still get it, but like, DB professional athletes? No, Debo. These dudes are still jumping 40.

My vertical's still not, I don't know. I used to get it, dunk all. I do know what I got to think about it. Yeah, because it's four or five. You know what I'm saying? Out there playing corner on the island? No, sir. My hips.

I mean, get your weight up and mood of safety. Get your weight up and move to safety. Man, coach, I done did my time. I'm good. I'm going to go ahead. Deep, I had got my tackles in. I had tackled 500, 500 tackles. Tackled them all.

Done tackle the mall. Done tackling. I mean, he had to do a lot of tackling in Cleveland because they was doing a lot of breaking down. No, I was doing a lot of crack replace. Crack replace. Get down there, Joe. Get down there.

Okay. Yeah. No, Joe, you heard what the line. You were doing the saving tackles. You was doing the 12-yard, 15-yard tackle. No. Loose to the line, all that, you know. No, none of that.

None of that. None of that. None of that. It's okay, man. Nub, tight in. Huh, I'm right here. I'm right here. I need that. Yeah. I'm just saying, Joe, I'm just saying. Look here, man.

My guy, Joe Burrell, you know, he made it clear. He said he wants to play in the 2028 Olympics. Burl said, I've wanted to play in the Olympics. I never necessarily played in the Olympics sport before. So when I, when this got announced, I was pretty excited about it. The opportunity to win a gold medal is something that I've always thought about, a moment like that for a long time. time since I was a kid. I think it would be something very special. Joe. Yes. My guy is basically saying, yo, I'm going to have to go get a gold medal if I'm going to get something. And, you know, he's talking about flag football. Obviously, being a quarterback. He was slanging that thing. He was doing some things. He almost shook one guy, you know,

almost. But, you know, do you want to do you? Watch a little bit of it, parts of it. Yeah, they started doing the hand-in-off and running. I'm like, yo, that's like doing 7-0-7 and running the ball. It makes no sense. I don't understand it. But they need to make some rules for that. Like, you can't just hand the round.

See, but that's the thing, D-Bo. That's the thing. It's flag football. It's their rules. It's their game. It's not 7-on-7. It's not. With the flag football, you ought to be there going ahead and just grab him and then tear the black off.

No, what? That's the, we not know. You can't just now. says you want to be Debo and you want to grab. I'm just saying you got to like, listen, man, they're doing all the hip twisting and flipping and all that, man. Like, it's not really flag football. It's just hand-eye coordination football.

Like, don't call it flag, man. Just hand-eye coordination. And now you've got to just try and grab the flag because he's doing it. That's why it's called flag football because you got to grab the flag. Man, one hand tap, man. Put a sensor on them. And when you touch it, it buzz, it go off. I'm telling you this.

watching that makes me just realize though it's not if they wanted to play us in seven on seven two hand touch or for two that's going to be a different game when you start having to be that's hand out the flag grabbing is for real for real the part that's like that's a real talent and also the play calling to being able to set it up and knowing like the double passes and like the doing that is a real thing that you would have to like if you practice it like you just can't come out there and play with some dudes that have been doing that. just their whole life and like know all of the hip twisting, the dropping. You can't jump.

You can't do that. So these dudes doing their little spins and twirls and you can't grab them. That's a flag. That's a foul, Debo. You try and just rough him up because you see him. I'm trying to rough him up. I'm saying. When you go to grab the flag, make sure you get part of his clothing.

No, see, that's that. And hold it and make sure you get the flag. That's not the, that's, then you're playing. Then you're playing contact basically then. Do you know what I'm saying? Flag football is more. I ain't saying put your body on him. You are saying grab his clothes.

You're stopping him. You could, you know, you put, that's how you put a little hammie. Didn't they pull Joe's pants to pull it off? Like, Joe, Joe almost got stripped naked about it. Flag. I'm just saying. Flat. I'm just saying, Joe.

I felt like it was entertaining. I just think that they know this game. It's not, it's not a regular football game. The field's so much smaller. You can't run your normal plays. They blitzing right at you from the seven yards away. You know what I'm saying? So they know scheme.

They schemed it up. They don't have to scheme it up. I liked it, though. I ain't going to lie. I thought that the flag football team did a really good job because, like, they was dipping. They was jukeying. They knew their little scheme, man.

They're nice. If they were to put some pads on, obviously, it would have been completely different or if we play regular seven or seven. Flag football, man. They don't want to play no regular football, man. No, they don't. Play real football. That's why we...

Let's go ahead and the Olympics get real football cracking. Get real football cracking, man. Just like every other professional sport, every other professional. They had a professionals going, do the thing. They don't create a flag league

just so that they can be like, oh, it's what, what is it? No. Whatever. I feel it. I feel you, if we had a real... Listen. Football, if we did a...

But then... Okay, no mind. Joe. Joe, listen, this is what we go do. What? We just go on ahead to the Olympic Committee and tell them, hey, put American football in there and make it a sport and then let's see you dominated.

Oh, we would definitely dominate it, though. That's for sure. They don't want no more American flags running around. No, that would be... But... I think they're trying to watch the injuries, too. I mean, would we let... No, it's the only sport that doesn't have it.

That's it. Football? You got rugby. You got soccer, you got hockey, you got basketball, you got baseball. I'm with you, D, but we might as well. That would be fine. What?

Volleyball. Name it. Having a football. Contact football. Yeah. Like, come on. We would dominate. See, that's why they're trying to cross over and go worldwide.

So they can have it everywhere, and then we can have an Olympic sport. Maybe that's something they're doing that smart. I don't know. But I know what it. It really is. They're just trying to grab their money. That will be fine. I need to talk.

I need to talk to Joe Burrell. You need to make sure. But how would you feel about your how would you feel about your quarterbacks out there? Do you think you'll let your quarterback play? You let Burroughs. My quarterback play?

Yeah. In what? Flag football? In the Flag Football Olympics. Yeah. Okay. Thousand percent. I mean.

They're going to represent the country. Go get them a medal. I mean, they can't hit them. You can't touch them. It's flag football. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't see a problem with it, but I need to talk to Joe. Joe Burrow, I need to talk to you.

I understand what's going through your head. Let me talk to me. Talk to him, Debo. I want you to see me, Joe. Joe, I understand what's going through your head. Mr. Burrow, let me talk to you for a minute. You're sitting there in Cincinnati, and you know. No, it's no way.

God's green nerve. You go get you a Lombard. So, you see the next closest thing. Gold medal. I understand it. We want to have something. You want to win something. And when you want to win something,

Joe walks away from the TV, make like I didn't see him leave. And when that happens, you try and grasp onto something so you can have something when you're done with your career. But if you want to have something, you know what you need to do. Joe Burr, go up there, Mr. Brown and tell him, I love everything you did for me. I appreciate what you did for me, but I got to have something

to show for my legacy, and you need to be trading to the Piss Pust Dillers. And you know what I'm going to do for you, Joe. I'm going on down there. I'm going to talk to Mr. Rooney. We'll talk to little Dan. We'll talk to Omar. Talk to Mike McCarthy. I'm going to say, hey, Joe Burrell won't come.

Now, you just tell me what Mr. Brown won't. And I reckon I can see to it that we get that done. You know why? Because it ain't never too late. Change colors. Ah, hey, Debo, I'm with it. Joe Hayden did it. Joe Burrow could do it back.

Go ahead. Joe Hayden did it? That's crazy. But that was a really good pitch, Debo. That was a great pitch. That was a great pitch. And only, only, only thing, oh, damn, you know what, now, see, that's crazy. Hey, I, I am all.

in for Joe Burrow. 1,000 percent, who wouldn't be all in for Joe Burrow? If Joe Burrow came to the Pittsburgh Steelers, instantly, it's time to win ship. It's time to go ship. What else is everybody talking about? Things to be looking crazy. I don't give it that.

What you're talking about? Hey, we got... You come to Pittsburgh, you ain't even thinking about a gold medal no more. What you're thinking about? Lombardi after Lombardi after Lombardi after Lombardi. He's going to Lobardi. Then go get that gold. Calling the Bardi boys.

That would be out. That would be wicked. Anyway, bro. Anyway. He never too late. Anyway, it ain't too late. We need to go ahead and help. Yeah, we need to go ahead and make that.

Hey, they're trying to make it to where you could trade the draft picks four, five years into the future. Hey, Joe, if the rule passed, hey, go out there. Talk to Mr. Brown. You appreciate everything you've done for you. My legacy. I don't know if you got no cheering yet, but you want to have you. You want to have your children something to talk about, look at it and thinking, say, go back to, when my kids go with me back to the stillers, man, and they sit there and we go through and they get to see the Lombardists that their daddy helped win. We're hoping.

They get to see that. Joe, we want that for you, Joe. Joe, don't you want it? What is the, Debo, the sad thing is that you even got me entertaining it because. I would, I want it for sure. We want it really bad. But the possibility, what are we saying?

You keep saying something like you know something more than me because I'm like, this is, you know, I'm all in. Hey, you got to speak it into existence, right? Okay, I feel it. I feel it. That's right. The power of the tongue. The power of the tongue.

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