Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Ravens Beat Titans, Bengals Lose To Jaguars, Patriots Upset Bills

Episode Date: October 5, 2026

NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react to Week 4 of the 2026 NFL season where Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens defeated Cam Ward and the Tennessee Titans, Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals losing to Trevor Lawrence and the Jacksonville Jaguars, Joey Porter Jr.'s debut in the Dallas Cowboys win over CJ Stroud and the Houston Texans, and much more! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE and use code DEEBOJOE and get $150 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Timeline:00:00 - Intro12:10 - Ravens beat Titans23:43 - Jaguars beat Bengals41:26 - Patriots beat Bills (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm your host James, Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host Joe Hayden. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show. Hey, Joe. Yo. Where you at? What you're doing?

how you feeling, all that, all that stuff, because, you know, I'm just wondering. All right. So, look, Thursday was a great. So, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Thursday was a great day. But this weekend, this weekend was not. What happened Saturday on? Okay, Saturday on wasn't too good, Debo.

Saturday on wasn't too good. My Cleveland Browns, my flag football team, we lost 20 to 12. And then my good old Gators come home after that game. And then I don't know. I don't know what, but you know, it's one, it's one time. We lost one game. What was the score? When we won a national championship back in 2008, we lost one game to Ole Miss.

What was the score that you lost early in the season? Okay, not by that, not by that much. It was not, it was not that crazy. That was a significant margin. We probably lost by about seven. Six. Y'all lost by what, 56.

Hill, Dibot. How much was it? It wasn't 56. I could have. It wasn't 56. It was like 40. What's the difference, Joe? Boy,

we looked like, you know what? We looked like Kent versus Ohio State. That's what we looked like. That was all bad. We looked like we was out there. We just had a bad.

Ken ain't, Ken ain't had no number beside they name. Y'all, you're, ranking. Yeah, we was eight. Yeah, that was, that was, that was, yes, Debo, you're correct. What's that?

You're correct. What does that go look like now? Y'all should drop out of the top hundred. We still, we still, no, we still going to be in the top 25. Because we went down. Who did y'all lose to? We probably going to go down. We lost to the 25th squad.

We lost to the 25th rank. Okay, so you lost to the 25th rank by how much? Debo. It points matter around. It's one. College football. You know that, right? Yeah, winning, but how much you win by, how much you lose by.

The voters, yeah, they count. You know, they'd be like, oh, well, you got this many points, that many points. Then you got skunk by 25. You got, you got the dog. Like, y'all got beat so bad that they couldn't even recognize y'all after the game. I couldn't recognize us. I couldn't recognize us. That wasn't, that wasn't the Florida Gators that I know.

You drinking a whole lot of water. You thirsty? What's going on? you at? Brother. Okay. I miss my... Debo, it's just been

it's been a difficult morning. It's been a difficult morning. I miss my flight. I am in, I am in Miami. I'm out here. I came out here with my boys. Golf on my boys.

Golf my brother. I was... You got pretty dehydrated out on the course, huh? Golfing. Man, listen. My boys, the Jonas brothers, man, they got a concert today

in Miami. So I flew out here kicking it with them last night. We did some golfing. We did some hanging out. And then I woke up this morning and missed my flight. I was supposed to be getting home

the same way I did to see you at the crib once I... Joe, you didn't even try and wake up. What are you talking about? You didn't even try and wake up. No, you didn't, bro. There's no way you tried to wake up. What time did you go to bed?

Last night? Like, that's what I'm saying. I went to sleep this morning. Exactly. Joe, you didn't try and make a fight, Joe. As soon as you came in there and you looked at your clock and that mother said three-sum, you said, oh, yeah.

Yep. What's that, uh... Yep, you're right. What's the last flight up out of here after I get through? I should have just went straight to the airport. That's what I should do. Hey, that's what I should do. I know how you live, Joe.

You got everything slung around. You live off the suitcase. You don't even put your stuff in there. So when you pull it out, you can store it. Come on, You know what I'm saying? No, man, I'm very organized. I'm very organized.

I'm very, very clean person. That's for show. Yo. Joe. What you looking like that? What's you like? Like, you don't know I'm not like I'm not organized. You wasn't organized enough to know that, hey, when I get back in here, I need to pack up and just go straight to the airport and sleep on the chair.

Hey, I know. I know. You're right with that. I'm organized, but that part I did. The quick nap, it turns out. No. It don't happen that way. You lay it on the bed.

You got to sit on the couch. Sit up and take a nap. When you want to take a nap, it got to be sitting or in a recliner. You cannot lay down. You got to set an alarm. You got to set that alarm. You got to take that power nap. That power nap, set that alarm.

And when that alarm go off, literally just jump up like, yeah, yeah. But, hey, Joe, you wasn't trying to do that. You was trying to get you some good rest. After y'all took a beating. Then you took a beating last night. You let the alcohol beat you up real good. You know what I'm saying?

Come on, man. Now you're drinking water trying to recover, you know. Trying to hydrate, trying to get it. I need some electrolytes. You need A, get you some electrolytes, some vitamin, what you call those drops. Yeah, you need everything, man. We lost two, but we only lost by three. Who's your play?

Who's your play? It don't matter. Who did you play, you, bro? I don't remember. Okay, so I know they didn't have a number next to that. Oh, yeah, they did. And they still beat up. Yes.

They did? It was, I think there was ranked like eight. That was us. The Gators was ranked eight. Y'all didn't play. Nobody ranked. Y'all lost to the 75th ranked team in the country.

And after 25, there's no numbers next to it. So you and them, who knows what you all are. You might have been eight something. You might be right. It might have been like eight something. Eight. It was an eight then. I didn't look past.

I thought it was just eight. No, it was 88. It was two eights. That's 16 to me. See, I feel like we played 16 on Lost White 3. I don't even know what you're talking about, man. Hey, man. Look here.

Good job, Kit. Way to keep it. Way to keep the game close. You're just looking for close games. Joe, it was a home game. Listen, we planned again. It was another max school, but still. We got two wins this year, though.

That's more than, that's 200% more than last year. Come on, man. Come on. Last year, you ain't win no games? I don't think they won nothing, Joe. Debo, you are lying, Joe. Somebody tell me what Kent State won, man. I ain't go lie to you, Joe.

Joe, I ain't going to, listen, Joe, my first year, we went one and nine or one in ten. Oh. Oh. Or was it a flip? We went two and nine, and then the next year we went one or ten. But then we came back, what? The third year of a lap, bro.

Six and five. Six and five. Since they had since like 8 to 7. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Six and five, that's good. Bo, El's for the first time. In the long time. Did y'all play?

Did you play in the bowl? What are you talking about? Y'all were eligible. And then they was like, no. Who? Who is we going to play then? Yo, another max school. They ain't, they ain't have all that,

you know, you're talking about. Go ahead, man. I'm calling them. 2000, 2001, something like that. They ain't got nothing and all that stuff they got right now, man. You thought, oh my God,

that was 26 years ago, bro. You know, because we was too busy playing in the Fiesta Bowl. We could have let y'all go ahead and go in that toilet bowl. Let's see what ball game y'all be in this year. And let's see how many times

y'all get your face kicked in. Don't y'all got to see O'State? Boy, we got to see, look. We got to see Texas. There's rank number one. And we got to see number Georgia, who's rank number two. two in the country. So we still got things in front of us that can still line us up to be what we

need to be. We walked Texas and we walk Georgia, we right back where we need to be. Sometimes we might have needed to get that belt. We thought it was, we thought it was all too sweet. Thought it was all too sweet. Thought it was just going smooth go through everybody. No, wake up. You're not, you're not that good yet. You can be good, but you got to come in there and everybody every week. So this is going to be what happened, how it happened to us when we lost the Ole Miss. We lost by a little bit, though.

They lost by a lot. Y'all got pounded out. Y'all got beat, but we did. I mean, beat. Belt, belt it, belt to ass, for real. This boys came up out of there, and I'm talking about, you know how you had them welts so large

that you feel like it's about to bust skin? That's how they did, you know. Wow. And just kept hitting that same spot. Wow. Yeah, yeah, that's the part. Yeah. We took our lashes.

We took our lashes. We took our lashes. I'll get some more of them. Don't worry about it, man. Look here. The Titans went on a head, and I didn't think they put up much of a fight, but the score says they did. 24 to 18. Ravens beat the Titans 24 to 18. Lamar Jackson, that man, he did his thing.

Did you see any parts of that game, bro? A little bit. Look here, brother. The second play when Tennessee came out there, he threw the inner. reception, bounced off dudes hands into his hands. They got the ball at 37, and they ended up scoring. I think it was, what, fourth and one, Henry went in there for a five-yard touchdown. But then they came right back, bro, and they tied it up.

You know, we had to talk with Cam Ward over there. He said, yeah, yeah, he came back. He did his thing, you know, tied it up. He marched him down the field. And then, what was it? A little while later ended up being, like, Marge just went a little crazy on one drive. I think it was somewhere in the second quarter they ended up scoring like three points

making it a no it was a touchdown making a 14 to 7 and then I think that was the drive he ended up doing like a 5-0 5 or like 96 yards made it 21 to 7 field go right before the half because

they ended up fumbling again but anyway Lamar went out there brother he was what 15 or 20, 222 yards, two tuddies, no interceptions. But the last play of the first half,

my man got his ankle rolled up on and they say he was placed in a protective boot and is now believed to be day to day. What do you think happens if Lamar isn't able to come back?

Do you think the Ray to be cool, how you think that process goes? Hell no. Hell no. They better protect this man for their life. They're going to go as far as Lamar Jackson goes, Debo. Like, Lamar Jackson, with Derek Henry, with the way that their offense runs,

if you put somebody else in there, it's not the same team. Like, Lamar Jackson, he's been able to run, to throw. He can do everything. So, I mean, I don't think that the Bravens will be nowhere as good as they are right now if they didn't have Lamar. They need him. I'm thinking they'll be okay. Okay. But, like.

You got to think about it. So Huntley is the same style of quarterback as Lamar. So it's not too much stuff that you have to change in your offense when you put him in there. And then on top of that, you already have Derek Henry. So I'm going to lean heavier on Derek and then allow it to get to where they put themselves in those heavy box situations. And now I allow him to go ahead and tag Zay. Hit Zay here, hitting there, you know, occasionally having, you know, do the same. He's going to do the same place, same replays, hand it, give it, all that other stuff.

I think they'll be our right. But to say they'll be as effective with them, no, it's not because it's two different. He's talent there. A thousand percent. It's like, it's the same, it's the same type of player, but it's like you can say he's, but you know, Lamar Jackson is Lamar Jackson for a reason. He's the MVP of the league for a reason. So if you put another player in there, not disrespect to Huntley at all.

He's an athlete. He can run. He can do, he can use his legs, but he don't got legs like Lamar. So I feel you, though. He's not got legs like him right now, though. You got to grab. Lamar ain't got one leg. He got a little angrier.

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So I get you, the Ravens would be still, like, you don't have to switch up the O. But always, if you're missing your guy, you're missing your guy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Lamar, that was only a half for him. Actually, he only played a half. That was 15 or 20, 22, two tetties, only a half a ball. The man, Zay finished with eight for 118 in a touchdown.

Derek Henry, he got him 73 in the touchdown. Derek Henry now has more rushing touchdowns than any NFL player since 2003. Ooh. Hey. That's crazy. bro it's crazy because it's just he's consistent he does it every single year huge and he's just i don't know man just staying healthy my thing is depending how many more tennies he's going to get he's scoring about he's average

12 to 12 15 touchdowns the season and they they're going to give it to him when you down there you know what i'm saying it's going to be it's going to be hard to stop him hey man i ain't lie to you, the little, the little, the little, uh, the little, uh, DB, if he, if he came a little lower, he might have had a chance now. He held him up for a hot second. I mean, it was only a high second, but, I mean, you're talking about victim weight versus, what, what, that man, 240? Man, yes. That ain't, that, that ain't, that ain't, that ain't, that ain't what you're looking for, man. Defense did, they think. They created a couple turnovers to help in the process. Gold line stand was a big one. They went for it on that fourth and one.

Got nothing. And then Ravens turned around with 98 yards. They're talking about Lamar day-to-day. You put a boot on, bro. When you put a boot on, I'm thinking, I'm thinking at least, at least, at least three, maybe four weeks, Joe. Hey, Joe, I listen, I had the boot on before. When you put the boot on, that's like that high angle. You know, when you got to put the boot on, you ever had a high angle?

You had to put the boot on, didn't you? Yes. When you got to put the boot on, you know it ain't no two. It ain't no next week. It ain't, I mean. You need a week off with you. You need a week without that book. That's what I'm saying.

You got to get it back together. You're walking in the boot just to keep some stability so that thing don't, don't splay when you put that weight on it. Man, I guess after the gang, Cam Ward, he was waiting to do his interview. And I guess he might have got a little impatient. You just listen to it. You tell me, brother. You like that sometimes.

You got three minutes, 12. We'll walk out. Man. You said what? Joe, what do you take from this, man? What's going on, Joe? Look, my dog, he came into his interview. He's expecting everybody to be in there.

You know what I'm saying? ready to have his little conference. So he's coming in there after the game, did his little thing, dressed and whatever, but they try to make it look bad, Debo. Did you watch the whole thing? You're not winning. Did you watch the whole thing?

No, go ahead. No, I'm asking. I'm asking. Because I don't know. I'm just saying, y'all thought you were just going to give me some information I didn't have. No, I don't have any information that you don't have. So my thing is this.

This is what happened. My man 0-and-4 right now. frustrated. Okay, Joe. On top of that, he's sitting here waiting on y'all to come because he already know y'all over there in the Ravens locker room talking to them right now.

While I'm sitting here waiting on y'all. And on top of that, you're probably trying to get something to tell me that's go piss me off even more, okay? Hey, they ain't been asking nice questions to him. That's for sure. So my dude sitting here looking like, hey, y'all out of control, bro. Y'all out of control.

I ain't taking this. But you got to have some control, Cam, man. You can't let yourself. You can't get out of character, man. When they get tough, man, and it's going to be situations like that where they go be talking to the people. Because y'all just went over there and, you know, y'all didn't win. You're on for them. They over there looking for ammo to come over there and shoot at you.

And it's going, you got to stay calm, man. You got to stay calm. He's feeling a certain way. What would he do? He just went 20 or 31, 21, 222 yards, touchdown, and intercepting. Interception that really wasn't his father, tipped off dude's hand. So, like, I could see, you know, why he may be a little upset, but you got to build some, what they call it, emotional discipline, you know, that comes into situations like this, you know, when you don't have a bad game and things about the, or you don't have an okay. game where you just, you just frustrated, man, y'all losing.

Expect to see y'all on four in the first quarter. Mm-hmm. So, Debo, you are speaking some facts, my brother, because I think sometimes people really just don't realize, for Cam Ward, my brother, like you said, some emotional stuff, because just realizing you're under, they're filming you, you're being watched. Everything you say, everything that happens, people are going to be able to grab it and then make it into something. So for you, me and my dog, Debo, we, we.

understand. You are a football player. You had a game. You're coming in there to have an interview. They're going to be asking you questions that you know it's not going to be good. You're about to be sitting there because you're lost and they're about to be asking you crazy questions. So just the whole thing of the emotions and the feelings, everything, knowing you're being recorded, though, brother. So just keep that on the back burner. Because we know, we know what it is. We know your feelings, you're going to be emotion. You're going to feel some emotions. But people can take that and just like try to put it up against you. So just knowing when you're being recorded when you are being watched, try to stay as professional as possible,

just because, like, people can always just turn things to make it, make you look the bad person. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, three minutes, you know, that's a long time. Just sit there and wait. But see, if you didn't say that, you didn't say the quiet part. You can't say the quiet part out loud. Yeah, 180 seconds.

We just going to be standing here. I'm going to tell you right now, they're going to let you go if you just sit there long enough in silence. go to a hundred and eight looking like they watchers like where they're at um you can go i mean i guess you know ain't nobody go come you can you can go stay calm stay calm man it's okay bro you're the quarterback too at that you know you go take

they really looking at too let me see how frustrating it is this person is supposed to be leading the squad let me see if he go if he go lead by by example if he go be a positive you know uh contributor to trying to get the team to go back or is he going to be three minutes. Shaw ass in here. You know what I'm saying? Got places to be.

Oh, man. Y'all knew y'all shouldn't have had that man in there that early, especially after y'all then went through what they went through over there. Look here, man. Uh-huh. The Jaguiles. Jacksonville, Jaguild, Jaguil, the Cincinnati Bengals, I mean, bangles.

Yep, get they out of here. Get him up out of here, Joe. Get them up out of here, Joe. New boys had an almost 25 penalties all together. Jaguars had 13 Bengals at 11. Joe still popped on him, though. He still took off on him. He went for 428.

God. 428, y'all? He went 428. Hey. Hey. Joe, Joe slung that thing with 428, brother. Okay? that's that's what that's what he do you know what they what they what they what they what they what they were for

your number 23 got to be more careful hey you got to be more careful hey you got to be more careful baby you got to be more careful they had a couple turnovers that really heard them uh then they just really didn't finish in some of the situational stuff but uh higgins he was what he was like ever, 157. And then, you know, Chase, he went out in the first quarter. Like, after that second quarter, he only, yeah. Dude tried to twist his whole head off.

I guess he got a concussion from that. Oh, man. Saw that. I don't know. I'm going to yank my whole boy. I thought. And then, and from that, he hit the ground, too. Bam.

I'm like, dang. Yeah, I don't know. Make sure y'all hope he all right. That was, that was wicked. I thought he was trying, I thought they might have beef or something. to take his whole head off with the helmet. Bo, real beef. Wagoo.

Wagoo. Waygoo. Ain't nothing. Hey, unless you get that. Ain't no more better than that. You get that. You get that, you get that, you get that, that, what is it? Get that Japanese.

Yeah. Barely cooked that one. That A5. Hey. Come on. 30, what, 39 for five, 39 for 54, 428 yards. He had one touchdown, 200, 208 yards. He had one touchdown, 200.

exceptions. Should have been three. You see that one Travis got, but they called him back because it was a roughen the passer. Boy, and did he hit with the, go get, get, hey, man, did you see him out there on a couple of them tackles, man? He was out there trying to take them boy's souls, man. Travis Hunter was out there trying to hit. He was trying to hit. He was trying to hit. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Travis, that's what I'm saying. Travis Hunter, too, though, he needs to be strictly cornerback strictly corner give him a little bit of oh

but strictly corner he will be special once he starts reading recognizing routes right now he's out there playing on straight athleticism like let the man start getting into his he got a know and recognize routes he's a receiver man that's probably what's helping him be

I don't know man just switching why do you want to switch him all the way to corner Joe Debo because I want him to because I believe he can be all pro. I believe he can be one of the best corners ever do it. But I think that he's not able to, he's not being able to have enough time. Like, if you can put that film, that's studying, I think

doing both is not, you can, he's not going to be able to master one. Like, the NFL, like, I was, when I'm watching now, realizing, like, it's so hard to be like, are you going to be a Jamar Chase and a Patrick's hand? There's no such thing. Like, you can be one. And then, like, If you're going to be the best of what words, there's not enough time in the day to be able to study your craft to be able to execute, to be able to know exactly what's going on.

So I think if he's going to be a corner and studying that tape and being able to have those extra hours of film study, knowing what's going on, route recognition. I think that is what's going to put him over the top. Because right now has athletic ability, there's no question that he can do it. But it's like, I think that just playing off athletic ability, he's striking. But when you start getting that mental and you know what's happening before it does, The quicker he does that, the better he's going to be. And I think if he went to a straight corner, bro, it'll be, yo. Receiver?

What do they make? Corners. Listen, they make 40, it make 40, 40 million dollars. What do they make? 33. 40-something. 42, yeah, 40, 40, 40, 40. It's about a good 10-piece.

It's about nine. But look, do you think? the Travis Hunter right now, as far as he's been playing, he's not going to get Jamar Chase's money. He's not going to get Jack and Smith and Jigbin money. You have to be putting up those numbers. You got to be putting up 1,500 yards, 100 catches. He's not doing nothing like that. Oh, you know what I'm saying?

He's going a couple passes here and there. Like, he's a gadget guy. If you want to be Patrick and Ted's strapping people up, you get three picks. Look, Joe, one, three picks in the whole career so far. That's $30 million a year. I'm like, brother, Travis, if you're not. If you want to be that one of the receiver, you got to go out there and put up numbers, 100 catches, 15 hundred yards, doing Jackson Smith and Jigvah's club, doing Jammer.

Shut down that side of the field as a corner. Make sure they don't go over there. That's going to be. That's going to be. That's going to be slight work. That's going to be slim. That's the easy pickings for him, huh? No, no.

Him? Him? Not a lot, man. He was eating. He looked like he wanted to hit too. Hey, man, I'm with you, man. Trash. This one's telling you, Debo.

he's one of them He's one of them doing. Need the receiver alone, man. Come on over to the defense side of the ball, man. You get to hit people, man, and put in, like, yeah, you get to do a lot of things over there on defense fly. That's fun. That's fun.

You'll be a dog. And I'll say this, you could a little bit, the gadgets or whatever, if you want to put the ball in his hands, put him at kick return, put them at punt return, and have them at your corner.

Like, those are opportunities where, man, get the ball in his hands in space, let him touch it. if he gets the ball and kick off the turn, he's going to make some people miss and we'll go, Devin Hesterish, put him at Pumperston.

Just let him touch the rock. Let him touch the rock. Like, those are opportunities where, no matter what, they're going to punt the ball. Put Travis Hunter back there. Let them catch the joint and get busy.

Like, those are opportunities where I think they can maximize his skill set. I got you. I got you. I got you. But he did, he did, he did, he did, he did have a nice pick of burrow. Burrow threw the ball 54 times, dude.

They only had 15 rushes all together. And, like, they didn't do a good job running the ball at all. But Joe Burrell seems to think that they should throw the ball more. Listen. Do you feel like it's balanced enough? You know, my response to that would be, let's throw more. Why are that those ones? Because I know we're great at it.

I know, you know, that's what I do best. And, you know, we're really past protected really well right now. You know, obviously we'd like to get more out of the run game, but, you know, I know we'll make it work. What are you thinking of that, Joe? You agree with him, disagree with him? What do you think, Joe? I think, if that's my quarterback, he wants the ball in his hands. I can respect it.

I can see what you're saying. But at the same time, if I'm a team, we have to be able to run the ball. Like, establishing the line of scrimmings, being able to slow it down, being able to take clock, being able to give our defense a rest. Like I understand, obviously, if you're a gunslinger, you're a quarterback, you're Joe Burrow, I love that. I want you to think you could throw the ball every damn play. You're not going to throw a pick.

We're going to score. We're going to win. We just keep the ball in my hands. That's what I want my quarterback to think. But as a team, as a coach, we got to be able to do both. We have to be able to run the ball. We have to be able to establish some line of scrimmage where, boom, get some play action.

We don't have to just line up and just, throw it every time. Like, that sounds good. But same time, you do it 428 yards, one TD. Like, we got to get in the end zone there, too. Like, all those yards is good. We're going to bend but don't break, we got to get in the zone.

So for Joe Burrow to say that, I'm all for my quarterback, believing in his self and knowing, I could throw this ball every time if that's what we need to do. But as a team, we have to be able to run the rock. I hear you, quarterback,

but got to hand the ball off and let's get some damn yards and take some pressure off of them. Because that's going to make it easier. It's going to make it a lot easier for you, brother. I love that you think I take this whole thing on my back, respectfully. That's what I want my franchise quarterback to believe. But that's the school.

Take that whole thing on your back on your back on balls. Go ahead, Joe. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Go ahead, Joe. Oh, look, for the team on my back. For the team on my back. But that's what Joe Burrow is saying. I respect it.

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Yeah, yeah, I got you. You cannot be that one dimensional and leave yourself open to let me. And, you know, teams know that, you know, we can start to try and pin our ears back. I mean, you got, you know, I think you got lucky that they didn't get more pressure than what they did, rushing the ball with 15 times, only 23 yards on those 15 carries. That's not something that's conducive to you being able to do that weekend and week out. And when you don't have something that you can do at least effectively and to go along to combine with, either you say you run the ball great, but you can't.

you can't pass it. And, well, now I'm just going to stack the box. Well, you know, now I'm going to figure out what I need to do to slow down your, you know, your passing attack. If I need to double your receivers, if I need to bring a blitz with it, however that, that may go. So I understand what you're saying about it, but if you go and you pass anymore, man, y'all just go be out there just playing.

But you're 7-0-7. It ain't even 7-0-7. This is going to be throwing a rock. Just, no run. Like, that's, that's the wildest thing I ever seen. Hell, Jaguars now, they don't want, what is it, 12 but the last 13 regular season games. They're 3 in 1 right now.

Do you see Jacksonville as a true AFC contender right now, Joe? Honestly, yes, yes. The thing is, it's you, the football seasons is so, it's a long season, and everybody just has to, like, That's the one thing. Like, people always try to knock out squads or you pick somebody in the early season. You got to go play the games. When you start seeing Trevor Lawrence out there willing and dealing,

offense that running the ball well, defense being able to get off the field, when you see a team that's actually playing like a team. That's when you know, like, is it going to be legit? Can they sustain this? Yes, as long as I think if Trevor Lawrence stays healthy, the defense stays playing the way that they're playing, it is possible. I think they need to shore up in a couple of plays. But just from last year to this year, yeah, I would say, and when you look at it, who is it?

I would say Buffalo. No, Kansas City. Take it back. Kansas City, then Buffalo. From there, do you see the Raiders, bro? Man. What is the Raiders? Like, when did that start?

That's what I'm saying. So, yeah, Raiders. Everybody thought they was going to be trash. If he's able to stay healthy. And the Cleveland Brown. Stop it, Joe. You out here talking crazy. Like, we're not three and one.

Like, we ain't leaving the division. Don't be over there acting like we're not over here. Wooping. Did you hear the teens I just named? Yeah, I did. Yeah, I did. And we're going to play the Ravens. So we're going to, listen, we're going to walk into the stadium

with all of these squads you talk about, Debo. They're going to have to come see us. That's all I'm saying. Joe. We're going to walk into the stadium. Y'all riding high right now on something that y'all didn't even do. What? What the, what you mean we didn't do?

We played the game. We played to win the game. We didn't do the things. We didn't do the fundamental things. Tackle. Stop. How many games you go get where y'all break 50 tackles a game? I'm trying to tell you, we're breaking tactics.

from everybody. It's not just y'all. It's not just the stillists that we make miss. Okay? I put you over there looking all angry. But when you watch the rounds, we're making everybody

miss, all right? You're making everybody miss. Who's y'all be? Yes. Let's talk about it. The Steelers? So, we plan like shit. The Panther.

Okay. And Tampa. And they ain't got, listen, Baker, been playing. No, no, no. Becker got that money and he ain't been paying right

ever since. Before, before every one of them games, you told me we were going to lose. Before everyone again. That's what I'm saying. You told me we're going to be

0 and 4 right now, Debo. So, when we're at 3 and 1 and we did lose the first game, Jacksonville got us out of the way. After that, belt, belt, belt. You called it. You call him that a belt?

We would, bruh. A belt? You called with we, with our gang, you called that a belt? Y'all, y'all, you know what I would call that?

Barely, okay, barely lost. I would call that us sitting there and just slowly, just trying to cut our own wrist. Just, we're helping y'all. Huh? Nope. Did you see that third down conversion?

when we had to drive the ball down on the last drive to win the game. Did you see how we were selling? Did you see Jerry Judy? Did you see Jerry Judy catch that pass? And did you see Asante Samuel think that he broke it up and start celebrating? He caught the ball. Did you, that what I wanted you to know. I saw that, did you see that?

Why is you trying to bring me back, dude? No good. I'm like this. I'm like, what are you doing? He caught the ball. Turn around. Look, son. He's on defense.

Line it back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you see that? That's how you went a game. That's how you don't lose a game. Then we hit the field goal. That was very far. That was 57 yards. Lucky. That's how you went. That's how you went again. Lucky. Lucky. You know what I'm saying? Lucky. Lucky. Yes, sir. Hey, that ain't a nine out of ten field goal. So like I said. Wait, listen. All I'm telling you is, We walked in the got-day four stadiums,

and we walked out three of them with... I understand what you're saying, but you can't, you can't go up there and talk about, oh, we went belted ass on this and that, this and that. No, no, no, okay, okay. How are you going to belt a ass? It wasn't, it wasn't belt. Hold on, hold on, let me look at this, Joe.

We got the first game, y'all got belted by 24. The second game, you won by four. Yep. The next game you won by three, and the next game you won by three. And we played like trash. We played like trash. Because if that's built to ask,

what did y'all have happened to y'all as a gator? I, that was criminal. They should have been locked up for what they did to us, Debo. Okay? They should be locked up. They should be serving a lifetime census.

They might be on death row. Exactly. How they did us. Yeah. That's belt. There we go. That's what I'm saying. what it is.

Okay? There's differences. There's death row and then there's a baby belt. Tink, think, think. And that's what y'all got. Baby belt. Teeny, tiny.

Thought it was good. You thought it was. That wasn't even a belt, right. That was, I thought you were just talking about your job. It's a little, what? No, it's this one.

All in Miss tackles, it was, watch out. You can't attack me. Get off me. Get your little ass off me. Watch out. Dead leg. Watch out.

Dead leg. That is. the ass on me. Miss tackles, yes. Miss tackles definitely. But y'all didn't do that. Yes. We wasn't tackling.

It's called hair leg. We are. We were tackling with hands. Nobody. No thud up. Don't, no putting my whole body on you for us. So we dive in that stuff.

We don't need to dive at. Like, I, bro. Stop. Don't do that, bro. Don't do that. I don't like that. I don't like that belt. No.

No. Patriots defeated the bills. 29 to 26. Your boy, Drake May, finally went out there and showed up. He went 22, 37, 269, three touchdowns. He had having a reception. And Dobbs, six receptions, 58, two tutties. You see that fire catch, though?

See that catch over there on the end on your boy? I think it was, was it CJ? Yeah, it was CJ, the cornerback. CJ Garmin, John's, the big man. What's his name? Listen, this is what he said He had to say about that play, though. Look here.

You know, Harry? Oh, running back. Listen, we're not going to get to no Bullons of Board material. Elevated guy made a hell of a catch. Probably won't hear from him again. Respectfully. And I say that with a lot of confidence because it's like,

he didn't put his confidence in his best player. That's what he'll throw the dogs or somebody. But they won the game, whatever. They didn't do shit. They didn't do shit better than us. We got to play about it. And they can mark that. We'll be back to see them again in the year.

So they would have that same energy. And they put up, what, 20-something points? They barely score. They struggled all the game. So only plus the practice squad. I played made a hell of a play. That's all I'm going to tell you. You do it again.

You probably won't make it again. Simple. My boys almost put up 30 points. What are they talking about, Joe? Bebo, man. What are they talking about, Debo? You know what he's talking about, Joe? I think he's in the feelings, man.

you know, Drake Major's what? Two, 269, three tirties, one interception, plus 54 Russian yards, okay? And they had 143 total Russian yards. So Drake May had like a third of their rushing yards, okay?

Then I think the offense, Buffalo's offense, they actually ran like 54 plays. And then, that wasn't nothing because they were on the field of defense Buffalo's defense CJ was on the field for 73 plays okay I mean Buffalo could have more playtime you know if they actually kept giving Cooks the ball I think Cook was what we got 12 he was yes oh he was over six yards a carry boo he only had 12 carries for 75 yards he was over six yard of carry, dude. And you don't get that man to

Baltimore? Six plus. That means two handoffs, man. That's all he need for the first time. What you're talking about? First down. And, uh, C.J., man, listen, I'm going to tell you right now. Be careful what you say. Okay. Because saying that, like, you'll never hear from this man again. It's something

you really don't want to say. Because that can motivate somebody. Because when I think about it in 2007, I had somebody say that. So it was 2007. Baltimore Ravens, Pittsburgh Steelers, Monday night football, three and a half sacks, three-force fumbles, one recovered fumble, one interception, and nine, ten, tackle something like that, okay? Uh-huh. And after that game, it was a dude name, Trevor Price.

He says, Joe, quote, they had a little five-nine linebacker making plays. And I was like, who is this kid? That'll never happen again in his life. That was 2007, Joe. 2008, Joe. I was defensive player of the year. Only undrived the player to ever do it, Joe. And no one has ever done it since then, Joe.

And then, you know, I need that, Joe, because I like negativity. Negativity drives me, Joe. Yeah, that's what I need. But he rolled it back. In 2008, we're playing them in the AFC championship game before we go to actually go on to win the Super Bowl. And he says then, he says, I am now a believer in James Harrison. Too late.

Too late. I don't need to believe nothing. Hey, you can't take the stank off shit. You don't say it what you had to say. Stand on it. Stand in that stinking shit. Because I'm a stand where I'm at with mine. I appreciate you.

Yeah. Debo, that is a great story, my man. I ain't going to lie to you. Because all I'm saying is with my man, Gardner Johnson. He's a Gator. But at the end of the day, you don't disrespect. He was already mad from Saturday, too, so. And your ass stunked out.

He pissed. But it's just a disrespect of a moniker. of another man in the league. It's a man made a play. We don't know. Hopefully he doesn't, you never know what situation they're in. Like how he,

he's on the team, he's on the rock and made a spot. You, how do you know this? You don't know this. You don't know this man's situation. You know one thing. He's in a professional game

and scored a tutty on y'all. So end of the day, he's there. He's made it. He's done, you don't know what this man's gone through over his whole life. He's made it to this situation

where he's arrived to the stadium, got his gear on, buckled it up, and scored a tutty in the NFL game. So just from the respect of playing the game, everybody out there is in, it made it from somewhere, got a story, has a read like every single player in the league. You don't just get there for no reason. So that man to be able to come out there and play, I, for myself, can never disrespect another man that's in the jersey.

Because I don't know, I know, I know it's, you made it here. You here, you're in the same building. I don't care. When you got drafted, if you're under, undrafted, but I know one thing, we're on the same field, and you're playing for an NFL team that they're signing you, you got a contract. So my whole thing is like, you never know another man's spot. So just because he hasn't got a name yet or don't know, like you said, Debo, new dude,

you got your first time out there playing. He's like, it was five, nine making all these plays. Yeah, nobody knows that that's Deepo, that's James Harrison yet until you start next year defense player the year. Now you got the respect because it's like, all right, yeah, he's in the league, though. You call me five nine, Joe. You, you five, five, that's disrespectful. You five eleven and three, and five eleven and a half.

Joe, we already went through this. I'm six foot, Joe. Stop that bullshit, Joe. Bebo, you're five eleven and a half. Joe, I'm the entire one. Okay. Joe, you know I'm six foot. All right.

You know what I'm going to give you? You know what? Five eleven and seven eights. No, I'm six foot. Solid, Joe. If you don't take the seven eights. We're going to go to the doctor. We're going to go to your doctor and have him measure me.

Yes. I went back to the video of when we were walking across the Sanford. Francisco Bridge and we look the same height. Joe, we just stood next to each other. We done did the back to back. What are you talking about? Oh, you just, look, I'm 5-11 and a half. And I'm taller than you.

5-11 and 7. You're 5-11 and 7-8. Joe, I'm 6 foot. Joe, I'm 6 foot. Stop trying, stop trying to be disrespectful. Stop, stop, stop. Like, that's the type of thing. See, now you're going to make me go and get my femurs cut.

You're going to go to get my fingers cut and stretch. You go to the Hall of Fame. So I could be six-three. You're going to the Hall of Fame. You want the best linebackers of all time. 5-11 and 7-8s. When I say that, that's no disrespect. You still to go.

You're all so disrespect for me. You still put it by the bed. I swear. You're some, y'all, y'all, y'all some disrespect with this lawyer, mother. I swear, boy, ooh, we. I'm disloyal. I'm telling you, you want a best. Best ever to do it.

You are a Hall of Famer. You're going to the Hall of Fame. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there crying when you get inducted, Debo. I'm going to be crying. Literally, real tears. If you, next person say, anybody say anything else about me being five anything. It's smoke in the city.

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