Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - Part 1: REACTION to Browns UPSETTING Steelers on TNF

Episode Date: October 2, 2026

NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react to Week 4 of the 2026 NFL season where Deshaun Watson and the Cleveland Browns defeated Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers on Thursday Night Football. Joey Porter Jr being traded to the Dallas Cowboys, and much more! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE and use code DEEBOJOE and get $150 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Timeline:00:00 - Intro04:50 - Browns beat Steelers (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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win your first $5 lineup. Prize picks. Run your game. Welcome back to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm your host James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show.

Fuck you, Joe. Huh? Huh? I'm just getting my gloves on. I'm just locking in. Did you watch... Debo, how you doing my... How you doing, my brother?

And how you doing? How you doing? Because you know how I'm doing? Yeah. We play to win the game, Debo. All right. Yeah, I was there. And I rushed back.

I had a flight 6 o'clock this morning to make sure I made it back to my home to sit here and have this conversation with you about that game that I was in person for. Joe, Joe, please, please make sure Please make sure you keep this same energy For the rest of the duration of your life Oh, huh No, no, no, for my life Don't you, never in your life again

Throw on black and gold Huh? And call yourself a stiller Or call yourself anything That is related to that. Listen, I already told you what it is now. I'm tired of this.

My heart and soul is with the Cleveland Browns. I told you that. Whenever the Steelers don't play the Browns, I'm rocking with them. But they guess who they played Thursday night? They played the Cleveland Browns in Cleveland. And I was there with the land. Turn, it was loud in there.

Mm-hmm. Okay? So, you know, And the next week, the Steelers, we got the Colts. I'm going to be there with you. We're going to be rooting on our boys, figuring it out. But as of right now, Debo, you already know what time it is. Yo.

What's up? Fido, fado going to the middle metal. Look here, man. Let's go ahead, jump into this. Browns found a way to beat the Steelers, which I'm kind of not surprised because it's a Thursday night game and it's kind of at your place. So, you know, when it comes. down to it.

You didn't know the history? I didn't know that the Browns won the last four versus the stillers on Thursday night. So, you know, this is just, it's, you know, it is what it is. Yeah. But Browns start off at the ball. Okay. Watson going out there, he gets Boston for a hot little five. Nice catch, nice tackle.

Yes. Store it up. Second down, we stop your boy for about two. Yes. Third down, you know, Watson, he goes to bond. And again, great tackle. Great tackle. Great tackle.

Right there. Playing with a broke wrist, all that right on top of it. Yes, he will. We stopped y'all short. You got to punt the rock over. Yes. Okay. You punt the rock over and we get the bell.

Yeah. And know what happened. Warren. Hey, four yards real quick. Yeah. In completion on the next one. Ain't really tripping on it. All right.

Then we get a false start. That move us to third and 11. Yeah. But when he tripping because with D. D.K. D. He out there. he went and got us a good 15 in the first time.

Out there, Taunton. What it is, what it is. Yeah, yeah. All right. We get to that second and nine, and Rogers goes to Washington. He'd make it a hot little third and three. Okay.

And then right there, Rogers to D.K., he pick up a salmon in the first along the way. Yes. That's when the penalty come in for the taunton. Yeah. Okay. Uh-huh. The next one, what was it,

An illegal contact by your boy Ward over there. This is a war, yes. He'd get nervous and scared and all that. And then 10, Rogers, go ahead, dump it to Jalen. Jalen, go ahead, aha, give you 11 and a first down. Uh-huh. Okay? Yes.

To the neutral zone and fraction because your boy, hey, y'all, we was getting, a lot of, look, we had a lot of penalties. That moved was to a first and five. They get that ball to warn. Ah, he picked up a high six on y'all. Yep. Yeah, second to nine, you know, Roger, he gets sacked making it like third and 16, something like that. Oh.

And Roger hits pitman for a hot, hot little nine. But, but y'all had like two, three, four, five, six penalties on there. We could have called a rough in the past, or unnecessary roughness. Yeah, it didn't matter. No, it was a, yeah. It didn't matter. First down. Uh-huh.

We get to second and ten. Hey, Warren said, bye-ba, get a hot two. And then Homer come in there and pick it up. on the first down the next play. Yep. We get dropped for a three-yard lost in. Fine. I ain't tripping.

It's second and gold from the 12th because, you know, it happens. And I think somebody got a 12, 12-yard. A little jet sweet. That's, hey, listen. Here you go, Wilson. Good blocking. Good blocking on that edge. Great blocking on the perimeter.

Great drive. All-yard touchdown, 7-0. 7-0. So, clearly get back out there. Watson gone ahead. He hit your boy Casey for a hot 21. I don't know what's going on there. Yes, sir.

That was a dot. I mean, things happen sometimes. You know, hey, sunshine or every dog's ass once in a while. You are right. You know what I'm saying? Next play, Watson goes to Boston. Mm-hmm. Please, get that.

Uh-uh. That's good. That's good. That's good. Taking down, we stopped your boy Junction again. Uh-huh. Ain't getting nothing but a yard. Ain't get nothing but a yard.

Third down in nine, Watson goes back to your boy, Boston. Incomplete. That was passing the parents. That was not a P.I. Because I did not see a flag called, Joe. In the back of his thing. How is going to be a P.I., Joe?

If the flag wasn't called. If the flag ain't called. Debo, okay, we're not going to have an honest conversation here. I can see where you're going with it. Okay, for sure. It was a P.I. You know it. But he didn't throw the flag. So it's not, it's not, we didn't get the arts.

That wasn't miscall, though. Can you say it wasn't a miscall? Damn right, it was a miscar. Okay, all right. That's all I needed. That's all I needed. But it wasn't a flag, so we got to live with it. Mm-hmm.

You got to live with. You got to go on head and do what, Joe? We got to punt. You got to punt. For sure. You got to punt, for sure. You got to punt that ball, Joe. Mm-hmm.

Then y'all go down there, and I swear, I could have swore that man, that man right foot stepped on that line. Man, I promise you, that pinky toe was on that line, deep, but, you know, look, If you touch the line, that's on the line, that's past line. If you touch the line, it's out. You're on the line. Yeah.

So, yeah, I'm with you with that, Devo. I can be honest. I thought this story was on the line, but you know what? Beggis can't be chooses. They gave it to us. Anyway, your boy, your boy, verse over there, he wanted to help us out. He went on ahead and gave us that good five. Y'all has a breathing room for that encroachment.

Okay? Yes. Warren, get out there and go on ahead. Give it to him on that first and five. He'd get eight. Good. run. Another first down.

Okay? Mm-hmm. And then Roger, hey, he'd go to Warren. He'd get another eight. Get, boom. And it's ready to give it to him again. He gets six for the first.

Ah. Oh. We're out there working. Yep. First down again. Now what we got on this first down. Yeah. You over there talking about the war.

Interception. Hey, listen. The man, arm, elbow got hitting all that. Because he was about the way your boy undercut that. If he had. If he, he, he, the, he, touch his elbow. The position that Denzel Ward was in, it didn't matter if he threw a back shoulder,

he threw a front shoulder. He was going to throw it. He wasn't going to catch it. That boy, Denzel Ward was in perfect position with his head around, made a play on the ball. Baller. Yeah, give me that. Yeah. Give you that.

Y'all get the ball back. Uh-huh. This is where the defense just started doing some crazy stuff right here, man. Whole plays less than two minutes, bro. We let these boys go 56 yards and score a touchdown. Yes. First down was just a run for three. Okay, cool.

Second down. Wide open in the flat. What is it? Wide out. Wide and out. Why are, we just, we don't know a lot of zones. What's going on? We weren't a lot of, we are in a lot of zones.

And nobody's getting today's zones. You got to get to your zone drops. Get your eyes on the quarterback, but get to your drops. I, dude, I don't, I don't know what you. I'm telling you, it's just looking, and you keep seeing it every single week. I'm like, bro, what are y'all standing there looking at? It's zone drops. Get to your spaces.

You got your cornerbacks looking nuts when they're in those zones because you're not playing, man. You're trying to keep dudes from looking crazy, pressing people up, but get to your zone drops. Right. It's first down now. Watson dumps it off to Junkins. He goes 12.

I don't know who is messed up here. Like, like, no, no, no, that's the one where Queen missed the whole tackle. Yes, yes. He just, he just, he just missed the whole. It didn't even matter. Like, I don't, it didn't. Brough. Yeah.

Next play, what was it? Almost 30? No, 28. TD. Yeah. 28 TD cutting through everything. Like four players diving around trying to get there. Huh.

Cutting back. I'm like, that's just bad tackling. bro i don't know what in the world is going on like somebody ain't doing something right i don't i don't i i don't know if we even have enough guys to i don't know bro like our reaction time is horrible we're not getting up to the thing and i can't really tell like is he supposed to spill that and then

the queen can shoot down get down there but then we so wide on the edge like i don't know who's supposed to come in like we got these corners coming in here trying to play linebacker man we got dude over here brisker he got on two arm braces. Man, two shoulder, two shoulder joints. Like, because, like, we got a D.D. He's playing lineback. He's firing off on people, though.

I ain't going to lie. He's the end of show trying to. Like, I don't, like, 33 drop down there. I'm thinking he's supposed to spill. He spill it. If he's spilled it, Queen, got to shoot down. He got to shoot down and get down there right now. And then on top of that, you letting KC block you?

Oh, he's, yeah. You letting Casey block you. Queen, come on, bro. Yeah. We got 20 missed tack, 40 miss. don't know what's going on. That was a lot. Yes.

Fire off on him, bro. He's right. Fire off on him. Yep. It's a receiver. He's standing there. Look, he's victim weight. Casey Conception on, he under 200.

This man got one carry all night. McLaughlin. 28 yards for a touchdown. Boom. It's 7-7. Now. Yes, it is. We go out there.

What y'all going to do? Three and out. Yep. Hey, they try to get the Mount Washington, fella, fom, fom, fom, fom. That's how you tackle. You got to shoot. It took the whole defense.

You got, that's when, it took 11. You better get to the ball. All right. We put the ball back over. And what do we immediately do? We say, this is another full plays. Boy. Another full plays.

Just over two minutes. Y'all, it was the first, it was 75 yards. Boy, first play. Blue! And you know what that is, Debo? First play, that's 60 yards, bro. 60. Bro,

give me 60. What are you doing? Can I tell you something? That right there is terrible communication. You got your safety. Terrible communication. No, Debo, Debo, I'm trying to tell you. No, it's covered two.

You had your corner playing squat. Everett's over there playing squat. His half field was rolled over next to the other half field. So we had two safety standing next to each other playing the same half. As soon as he realized, oh, I rolled to the wrong side, he took off. running back over to where you're supposed to be. So that's on the safety. That has nothing to do with Ever.

I understand what you're saying, but he ain't got no threat there. I understand. You got to keep widening. You got to go. But God, dang, your whole safety is not there at all. Like, nobody's there. Nowhere to be found, bro. That's what I'm saying.

He's in cover two. He's in squat. So at the same time, he should be a little bit under him. He needs to carry if nothing's in your flat. But you don't have a top safety. You have no half-field player. That's crazy. You're a cloud corner.

Brough. That, yeah. Blues. That's how you get blued. Like 60 yards, bro. 60 yards. One play. And now we down here, hell, what was it?

The next play, it was a, what, they ended up getting to, like, what was the first and five or something? Yep, we got a boot to Casey Conception on. Right there. Casey, yeah, Casey caught five right there. Jump the junk. right there. And then second down, the junk is he trying to get

to the, he got to the two. We can't make a tap and save our life. Watson was evading. Like, everybody, like I thought

he got out of a couple of troublesome situations, my brother. Next play, two yards, Junkins, 14-7, brother. Yes.

Points all turnovers. We get back out. Roger's to Fryman for a high nine. And warm, he picks up the first down with six on the next play. And then I think he ends up taking it like 24. Y'all still have problems over there on that run. No, no, no, no, for sure. There was 24 y'all run was wicked.

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Watson to Casey for seven. Mm-hmm. And then what was it? Second down, Junkins, he gets, what, a hot little two. He gets third one. We heard myself. We all start. We all start.

All these penalties. These self-inflicted wounds. Yeah, and then, you know, y'all make a play. Y'all get one of the ball. It's a good play, good coverage. He's right there, type of ball. You know, that's what happens. That's what it should look like.

Like, we should have more plays that look like that. Catch tackle, get the ball down. Yeah, like get the runner down. You know, like, it was better coverage, whatever. Right. That just, okay, anyway. You all end up getting to like a, what was it, the second in 10.

Yes, and then we get the juke in and get it to Casey Concepcion to stop making people miss. Bro, we get the hell blocked out of us on that play. Y'all dare shall do. It's like everybody doesn't forgot how to get off a block. Like, we don't, we don't know how to,

how to disengage, how to get ourselves free. One for one, you're going one for one. Can't go one for one. We can't go one for one. It's not a such thing as going on. for one. No, I know. I know.

I know. It's second down to nine. They're going to head. Watson again, he's going to your boy junk. The Junkins. Making you miss. We got to tackle. Junkins.

He, if he. Bruh. If we can make a tackle, bro. Just hold on, do something. Like, I don't even know what to do no more. Like, because I'm just, I'm just yelling at myself. But I know I've been seeing it like the whole time. Like, I've been seeing that, like, this.

First down junkers get a half four. And then it's a whole known queen. It would have been, it's first down anyway. So it didn't really matter. Now y'all was a goal, first goal, five or something like that. Yes. We miss a sack. What?

I thought he's on the ground. He's escaping. He's looking way more athletic, Debo, than I was expecting. I'm like, you know, some of them, though, they, Hassam is right there. He's a bad. We're not playing good ball. We ain't playing.

We're not even making a place. It takes two to the setup, man. I don't, like, I don't know what, bro. We're, we're calling, we're calling shit defenses too on, on, like, like, for whatever it is that's out there. And then when we do get the, the defense that's all. good, we don't make the damn play or to tackle. Yes, this is the defense. They're not tackling well.

When you're in the secondary, the coaches are trying to, you don't have the corners to play man to man. So they're trying to protect the corners from playing man. So they're putting you in zone. And then when you have, when the corners are playing zone, that puts the linebackers in coverage. And you're not finding your zone drops. You don't know concepts of passing.

So everything's looking a little off. Because if you can play man to man and they can lock them dudes up, Then it opens up a lot of things. When you start going zone, everybody got to drop back, eyes on the quarterback. That's all good. But when you could play some man to man, like Denzel, like Denzel Ward and Campbell over there, they was locking up. Shut up.

You know what I'm saying? Okay, go ahead. Byrd, go ahead. Burn goal, Watson goes to fan and he gets the two-yard touchdown, brother. Yep. That was, you know. That was good, tight. It was a decent, it was a decent throw.

Good ball. Jay Lamarrant right there. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it happens. It happens. We get the ball back. We only got like a minute 22 left right there. Second down, Roger goes to Wilson for 49.

Shoo! That was a dot. And that's when we playing man to man and go to the matchups. That's when we started attacking my man 26 a little bit. It started going to be mad hard. Yeah, then y'all get a hold, followed by some illegal hands to the face. Yes, that was legit. Uh-huh.

Took away aside. Anyway, we're having to settle for a 31-yard field goal because we can't get through. Yep. Better than nothing, 21 to 10, halftime. We go get the ball back to start the third quarter. Ain't tripping. Yes. 21, 10-and-a-half, you feeling good?

I wasn't feeling good. Hell no. Why would I feel good as 21 to 10? No, I mean that you're going to be able to come back, though. You think I would. was feeling good about we was able to come back and we just gave up three third times in the in the second quarter hell no damn okay okay okay that was a dumb question that was a dumb question you're asking stupid questions man take that punk-ass brown hat on

no no no you're going to keep you're going to get out there man we go three and out didn't we almost get picked on the first play on that one uh i don't yeah that one i don't know man it didn't It didn't matter, man. No, that wasn't the one. We go, we go three and out. First down, y'all get the first down. Offsides, like second or four. Yeah.

We get, what was it? Like, five yards, we started carrying people. He got hit with two yards and then started carrying. Dragging for the last spot. We can't tackle. We can't get nobody down. To hell, even when we ought to, we get in drug. Mm-hmm.

We getting drug. Y'all end up getting us out of there, though. Third Nate, that's because false start. Yeah, self-inflicted. And then T.J. makes a hell of a play. Yeah. Yeah. What you're talking about?

Yeah. Y'all got to punt the ball. T.J. made a hell of a play with that spin where he came back and knocked that ball about that boy. Yes. What you're talking about? Don't ask stupid like you don't know. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Stop playing with me, man.

We get the rock back. Yeah, y'all do. Three and out. We get a sack, man. We're getting a sack, we're going to sack. We're going to be all right, though. I feel like we're going to be all at the office. I feel like we'll be all right.

I'll tell you why at the end. But, okay, okay, okay. Clearly, get back out there. Uh-huh. First down. I think it's Watson, what was it, seven or something like that? Yep. Okay.

And then Junkins, he goes for nine. Yep. And then Sanders, he goes for six. And then Junkn's his pin cycle. And then Junkins goes for another nine. They run in a spin cycle. The train on us. Yep.

Everybody getting turned around, turned back, pushed back. Everybody getting turned around. Dang, Debo. Yeah. We was belting. We was belting. Y'all wasn't belting. You know Harmon got hurt, so that's a big thing.

Y'all, y'all started moving the ball a whole lot more after. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't even try that. Came back out with the boot. You're right. You came back out with the boot. You're right. It's getting so bad that Watson doesn't hit Judy.

He doesn't got nine yards in the first down on second and six. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. Judy. I didn't know he was still there. I did. I did. Yep.

Like, what's going to? What's up? Everybody eating. Everybody eat. Everybody's eating. Everybody's eating. But guess what? It's free.

You want to run the ball just line up in the back field. You're going to. Correct. You all correct? At this moment, we were toting that pill. But SWAT came through. He came through. Y'all thought y'all was going to do that.

He did the fake like he was going to go go for the dive and then came through, blop, blop, get him up. Yep. Give it up. Yep. Still let's recover. Mm-hmm. First down.

That's good. Great play. To that boy Scaronic for a hot shabham. Mm-hmm. Then Warren takes it 15 for a first. We fall start. Yep. My good man, Max.

And Rogers get sacked for a 10-yard loss. We get knocked out of field goal range, and now we got a punt. Burn. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Y'all get the rock back. It's Junkins, Jenkins, Jenkins, five, three, seven, first down.

Luckily, luckily, the ball gets tipped. No, man, ain't no tip, man. That was, because if it wasn't a tip, That was because if it wasn't a tip, I don't care what you say, man. I don't care what you say, man. If that ball wasn't tipped, my man ever pulled my man by the shoulders. Listen, brother, it would have been over with. Come on.

It'd been over with. Come on. It didn't matter what happened. If that ball hadn't been tipped, we would have been in big trouble because they had a ball right there. 1,000 percent. Thank you. But you know what?

His fingertip hit that ball. His fingertip hit the ball. None of that matters. None of that matters. In aception. Mm-hmm. Correct. And we get back out there.

First down, Warren, for seven. Yep. Legal shift, Michael Pippman. Illegal shift. We got a second and a eight, you know. But Rogers hit that man, D.K. We got a receiver too. That was a good catch.

That was a really good catch. Hands, boom. Didn't let it touch the ground. Great catch, D. Stop playing. Great catch. Great catch. And then we get a second.

Yep. But you know what? What's up? We got somebody over there, named Jalen 1, Rogers is going to go ahead dump it to him. And he say, I'm going to take it. I'm going to take it 13 with a nice I don't care where you put it. I'm going to put my hands on.

He put us to that third one. And then on the next play, he pick up that two for the first dime. Yep. Okay? Then Rogers hit that man, Washington. That's a good ball. That's a good ball. Back shoulder. My man, Denzel Ward, tried to dive in there

and knock it out. That's a good pass. Nice try, wrong guy. Nice try. Guy, we go for the two-point-f inversion, which was a good thing to do. We don't make it. It's 21-6. Okay. Brown's both.

Got smack, boom. 21-16. 21-16. We get up out there and first down, we sack your boy. Swat. Yes, sir. Good word, Swat. Second down, you hit Junkers for 10 and put you out to like a third, three, third,

and foe something like that. Yep. And then... Heard and foe. We allowed this man watching. Did I just not... I told you the man was used... The man was using his legs.

For 21 yards. Hey. Hey. Hey, Brisket was right there with the option of one-on-one. Open field, one-on-one, me and you. Just get a hold of him. Rapids, you got to wrap his leg,

that's one-on-one. That's the QB. We won that. Get a roll. That's a one. Fuck. Do something. Come on.

We're able to hold. Not really. Y'all just start tricking it off, really. Oh, my goodness. Down to. Man, we almost, Deshaunned running around, got it stripped and it bounced right back into our arms. Right there, Devo, I was old, oh, oh. Come on.

Oh, goodness. Relax now. We fell on the ball. Got us a nice little field goal. Yeah, y'all got a field goal. It's 24 to 16 now. We get the ball. Get back out there.

And this is where we almost get picked on the first. one. Because to go over his head. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. We got lucky on that. Yes. We go three and out.

We got to punt the ball back over. That was quick. Second and nine, your boy, Watson, he hit Boston for a hot little 15. 15. Uh-huh. And then, like, that first, Washington just missed fanny totally. Wide. Open on that third and eight.

Yeah, he just missed him totally on that third. That's just, he's wide open. You got to, okay. All right. Y'all got to punt the ball over. That would have that's, okay, yes. And we get the ball. Three minutes, 32 seconds left.

We get the ball and that man Rogers going ahead hit Wilson for 12. And then he going to head to D.K. for 22. That was nice. That was nice. What you go do? Yep. Second and four.

Roger will hit D.K. again for 28. That's two fade balls, one-on-one versus Campbell. Those are good. This is good catches, DK. Great job. Yes, sir. He's coming back around.

He coming back around. Just the time out of the first quarter of season. You understand, Joe? I'm listening. I'm hearing you. I'm spooked at this point because I'm sitting there thinking of. Listen here. Listen, listen.

We got to go for it on 4 for 10. But I'm going to tell you right now, it should have been a PI on that second down play with Washington. He was all over the middle. No, no. That was deep. Come on, man. God, you're starting to turn into one of the...

You don't matter, Joe. You don't matter because the next play, Rogers is going on ahead to fry move on that third down, touchdown. Mm-hmm. Touchdown, and we go for two and put it on you. It's 24-24. No.

All we got to do is stand up now. We held it ourselves because we jumped off sides to make it go to the one-yard line. Y'all was going to pass the ball. Jerry first, stay on sides to make them run a pass play. Aaron Rogers just snuck it in from the one. Like that was self-inflicted wounds again. Just penalties.

I don't want to hear nothing about that. 24 24. I'm going to tell you anyway. I'm going to tell you anyway. Stand up. Stand up. What's the score? 24-24.

Uh-huh. And here comes this bum. Judy, I ain't never heard. A minute, 36 seconds. Deshawn Watson hits Jeremy Judy with a dot. dig right through the, that was a fire catch. Come on, Judy. That's, hey, look, all that, you know.

What, what two, two doing there then? What 22 doing there? What's 22 doing there? What was 22 doing there? What was he doing there? What was he doing there? What was, like, what? I don't know.

I, I wasn't watching him. I was watching, I was watching Jerry Judy that time. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. All I know is that man ran that dig. Caught it. Bam! In the middle of traffic.

There will be no Jerry Judy. Slander. All right. Y'all, for a start, help us out a little bit. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, a little bit. Mm-hmm. 10 second second runoff.

Look, run all the clock off. I don't want no more time on it. Just a little. Yep. Go ahead. Bray. Yes, sir. We go on ahead and let this man.

He's any. For 12. For 12. You want to play Zol? I'm a bite Judy for 10. Wyden. Wyden. Judy, cross route.

Oh, we sack Watson. And then again, Watson just misses on the third down. Yeah. We ain't want to win. We ain't deserved a win. We shouldn't have won. We didn't win. Everything got it that we got had coming to us.

We got it. Uh-huh. 56-yard field goal. This man makes it. Wow. Yes, he does. And we get out there on the first play We throw an interception really eight, nine seconds left, whatever it was.

Yeah, you could have did something here or there. Just really didn't matter. Games over with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Games over with. Dang. Hey. Look here.

This is what I'm going to say. Go ahead, Devo. What you got, man? I'm going to say this. I'm going to say the offense did enough. I'm going to say the offense did enough. They did enough. We could always do better, of course.

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Yes. A lot of the stuff that was going on is just games. And that's something that's going to help or something that we go get better with in time. All right. So I'm not really, I'm not really too concerned about the offense at this point because, you know, some of them are getting beat. But most of it's just like the game. Like you one-on-one is games. You got to realize what you're doing, who you're working with.

how you got to do things, so on and so forth. And that's just what it's going to be. Because you're young, you ain't worked together. It's only your second time working together. Cool. But we still gave up five sacks. Yes. That's the, we can't do that.

We had two interceptions. Roger still had almost 300 yards, 299, 3 touchdowns. But the interception, the one interception cost is big. And then the one at the end of the game, it was just over with. I mean, it's really not much that you could do. But, like, dude, like, we was getting pressure. We're getting pressure. Warren Ball, the man has 17 carries for 93 yards.

D.K. finally came through for us. He's starting to move it up. Hopefully this is something that's going to keep inclining and getting better. Five for 115. It's if, how do I say that? If we're going to have any success this year, any success this year, the defense, point blank period. you're going to have to figure out what's going on.

The offensive side of the ball, I'm not worried about right now. I'm looking and I'm looking at the defense. And each week, we are not getting any better. We're staying the same. So that's the worst that you do is get worse, but that's worse. Because you ain't learning from your mistakes. You're staying the same. What?

Like, that's not going to help us. I know, I know, I know. They can't give up 21 points in the quarter and expect to win a game. No. Like, again, bro, we're in our past defense, period, just past defense, period. Rather it's the rush or the coverage. One or the other is flipping out and not doing their job. We only had two, well, we had two sets.

I won't say only two sex. That's two sex is good because normally it's supposed to get three. Okay. As far as with the protocol that we had as goals for Dick LeBowell, when he came in, you had to have three. But the big thing, we didn't get no pressure. We only pressure this man on 21% of his passes. That's how you go 24 for 33, 268 yards. Against Watson, I don't know how many tackles we miss.

We have an inability to tackle people right now. Yes. I don't know what's going on. Our linebackers can't get all blocked. We got receivers fucking blocking us. Yeah. Add that to the calls that we're getting put out there at the times that we're out there. Don't, it's not conducive to us being successful.

I don't know what, I don't know what's going on. Okay? In the secondary? I don't even know why Jenkinson was out there. Why was he out there? Because Ellie is hurt And that's what we got

That's what we got They don't matter Joe You don't put him out there You had to pull him anyway You had to put him in Jennings He should have been out there To begin with Yeah

Devo I can tell you this The secondary Now it just goes to me Like When we're looking at it Communication Brun communication

The back in is non-existent That's what I'm saying And that's why when we're continuing, we're playing zone coverages and you got these basic things of going to your safeties. You're going to half the field. You're supposed to split the field. You got two dudes going this way. The same side of field. I'm like, oh my God,

that's junior varsity. You know what I'm saying? That's junior varsity, bro. I need you to be great at the things that take no talent. And that's communication and knowing what the fuck you're doing. Yeah, yeah. I have, Debo, you're saying, the right things, brother. I mean, it's just when I'm looking, we're looking at the tape, but right now they got rid of them. And I'm saying this as this, why would you get rid of now

Joey Porter Jr.? Because now, Sean, we got the young boss. He's needed. He's needed, brother. And like, when you start watching out of the, oh, no, is it worth it at the end of the day? This is why you don't sit there and twittle your thumbs and play with your ass when it come time to get the man a deal and don't even offer him nothing. Joe, what did it? We ain't going to say what was going to say it, but let's just say that did you hear and I hear from the horse's mouth that if somebody had just offered him a deal, he would have been practicing the whole time.

Come on. Come on. They're playing that old school way. Some of this stuff is not going to, you got to keep the players that you, you got to do what you got to do to keep talent in your, on your team. You want to win or you want to stick to something that's just the way it is. No, it's not.

The way it is we ain't won a playoff game in 10 years. Yep. That's what the way it is. Mm-hmm. It's still away now. It's 500. It's still away now. It's maybe drag your ass to the playoffs and get kicked out.

Yeah. No. Yep. Yep. I mean, because that's what we say is any given Sunday. Because I don't go, well, we're going to keep talking about the Steelers. We don't keep talking about the Steelers. I don't want to get you hot, Debo.

I don't want to keep getting you. I don't want to keep getting you. Bro. You won't get you too hot because... We got Jalen Ramsey out here, man, playing with a broke wrist. Yes. D-line was average their best, especially after Hartman went out. We was done.

Second quarter showed us that. 21. The run wasn't bad. The run itself wasn't bad, but you gave a man a 28-yard touchdown and you gave Watson 21 on the scramble. Yeah. Youngers was only 17 for 53. Yeah, 17 for just over three yards.

rest, it's not bad. It's not bad. But you can't take away the stuff that they did. You can't take away to 21. You can't take away to 21. You can't take away to 21 in the second quarter. Mm-hmm. No, the defense, the way we're expecting them to be one of the highest,

one of the top five defenses because they have... The highest paid defense, not top five, highest pay. Highest pay defense. Highest pay defense. And then that's when we're saying the defense, that's the line. And the linebackers, and that's the linebackers, and now we got Jalen Ramsey is a high-paid safety, but when you talk about our corners,

we got Asante Samuel Jr. starting, no disrespect, Sean Dean, and we got Everett. And when we look at this Cleveland Browns, they got Campbell and they have Denzel Ward. Those are man-press corners. And they're paying them like such. So that's why the Browns defense is able to do what they do. A lot of times we're sitting in zone

because of protecting our cornerbacks. Because if you put them in man-to-man, it's going to be-protecting our corners and we don't know what the hell are. other safety you're going to do. I don't. That, Bibo, that's what I'm saying, but that's, that's zone. That's, that's limiting our whole situation because we can, we have to run zones because

they're not trying to leave the corners to be exposed and man-to-man press coverages. We have to get more consistent on pressuring the quarterback, getting through the quarterback, and the back end, our back end, we have to be tighter in coverage. If we don't do that, we're going to get. cooked. We have to get cooked every week. We have to be tighter in coverage because if this thing, if we're playing, we're not calling a lot of men's, when man to man, get your man and then we'll be good. But when we're playing these zones, you got to know where the hell you're dropping.

Like all of these, we're leaving these dudes in the flat wide open and they catch it and run up 13 yards because your corner has deep third. You're punching hook flare. Hook, get out. Good out. Why are you stopping? You keep watching. You keep doing the same thing.

over and over again. It's like we're not, we're in zone. You got to understand where your landmarks are in the zone. Get to it. These things, these things keep happening. Get to it and relate to who is in. Relate. You get into digs coming behind you.

You see something short, just back up because you know something's coming out. You know, it's cheese. We're going to see. Don't bite the cheese. We need to see checkdowns every time when you come up and you make the tackle for four instead of the dig behind your head for 12 every time. So it's like corners, safety. linebackers, the communication,

the knowing your assignment, your drops. Like we say, this is basic stuff that we're talking about. We're not saying if you're lying up on somebody and they're just dog walking you.

You got man to man and he's just rotting your ass up. Okay, then you, that's a skill thing. If you're not dropping to your zone drop, that's a fucking mental thing. It's like, dude, what are we doing? Get him out of here. He's not good enough.

Like, dude, what do you keep messing up? When in your life, have you ever seen TJ grab the headsets to talk to the D.C.? Hey, brother's like, what's going on? Help me. Yeah.

Yeah. And you, Cam, TJ, and that's the quasi part. That's the wild part. You're not saying nothing that they don't expect from their stuff. They know that's terrible. Everything that they're putting out,

all these explosive runs, Cam on the sideline screaming, T.J. on the sideline. screaming because they know what they're doing. This is not right. Y'all are in wrong positions. Y'all are not executing. Y'all are professionals.

Y'all are the highest paid people because you do it at such a high level. This just doesn't look. You're not even in the right positions. We got to do something with this line up, bro. Like, I don't know what's good. Something got to be done. I don't know. Something got to be.

We got to do something. I don't know what the hell it is. I don't even know we got the people on the team to do it. I don't know. I'm with you, bro, bro, bro, bro. I'm with you, too, because when you have basic things where you can't have both your safeties go to separate sides of half the field. We don't know what that.

What is that? That's what I'm trying to tell you, people. It's only two of them. I seen both, they're standing right next to each other on the half of the, I'm like this. Oh, my goodness. This looks crazy because when I first looked at it, I thought Everett. I'm like, you. You need to be covered three.

You might have got the wrong call. It must be one high safety. And you just rolled up. And you rolled up and messed up. I look back and both of the safeties are going the other way. I said, oh, no, you just need to go this way. And then he's going to be over the top. On both sides, we'd be good.

Both of them took off the other side. I said, oh, my goodness. That's not you, two, three. But definitely you got to sink if nothing's there. But you need to have a legitimate safety. That's, go pick that. That's regular. That's nothing.

I can't, like your coach, like this. All right, we got cover two kids, and I got both my sentences go to one side. I'm like, oh, no, we can't do. How do we start? How do we start worrying about the other little stuff, and we can't go to cover two? Bro, I don't even know what to say no more, bro. I don't even know what to say no more, bro. I'm so, I got lost of words.

I feel like Joe right now. Yep. That's awful. Listen, it be like that sometimes. When you're at a loss for words, when you just don't know what to say. I'm not trying to want to stress my dog out. But then on the series, on the time. We let, we let, we let, we let, we let, we let, we let, we let, we let, we let, we let

let Watson go out here and do this, bro. Hey, it wasn't even, it was, it was, it was the, it was the, it was a little bit of everything, man. It was a little bit of running, that burning, that, D'Bowell, like you, we was, we were toad this is true. Explosive plays is what got you. Yes, the bus. 100%. Boom.

Not tackling. is what's killing. Well, we can, yeah, and I'm going to call that tackling and I'm going to call that making a miss. That's a little bit more. We got dudes falling off.

It's falling off the bone like it just got smoked for 12 hours, 15 hours. That shit just, you pick it up and fall off the bone. Falling off, Braves rib. That boy's falling off. Okay.

Yeah. The Brown's though, bro. We was out there. Defense. But that's what I'm saying. We were playing a lot of man to man. A lot of man to man, Debo. And some of those sacks, too, Aaron Rock,

some of those sacks, those sacks, those sacks, those d'os wasn't getting open. They was in man to man. Right. He had some time. He was standing back there for a little minute a couple of times, and then we'll get sacked up. Packed up.

We can't, we got a, we got a, man, we're lucky we get one play a game where it was a coverage, a sack. Yes. Stop. No, no, for sure, because we're sitting in zones. They're going to find a hole. If you're with man to man, there ain't no holes.

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