Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Steelers beat Falcons, Deshaun Watson STINKER vs. Jags

Episode Date: September 14, 2026

NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react to Week 1 of the NFL season where Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers defeated the Atlanta Falcons, Deshaun Watson and the Cleveland Browns disappointing performance in a loss to Trevor Lawrence and the Jacksonville Jaguars, and much more! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE and use code DEEBOJOE and get $150 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Timeline:00:00 - Intro06:07 - Steelers beat Falcons32:54 - When will Joey Porter Jr. return?37:03 - Jaguars beat Browns (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm here with my co-host. Joe Hayden, please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show. Hey, how you doing today, Joe? I'm doing okay, Debo. I mean, it was a tough day. It was a very, very, very tough day. It was a great day. What you're talking about?

Why was it? We won. Still those. One, what you, hey. Hey, we're talking about a good day. Hey, anytime I got the cigar on my mouth, you know it's a good day. Listen, don't, listen, obviously, yes, Debo. I got a big white jersey on, man, you know what I'm saying?

Look here, what was you talking about? Listen, I'm happy, obviously. That distillers won. You know what I'm saying. But I got 50-50. I'm Browns. We got belted. And it's a lot of things that happen in that game.

There's a lot of things we're going to go. Joe, look here, man. I ain't coming up and here with that energy, man. You're going to kill that shit down. But, no, no, no. Even, see, Debo, you can't, listen. Hey, how'd your, how'd you fall all the Gators do then? Bell.

How's your Gators do? Whop. We whoop in, we whooping, we wooping tail. And you whoop in tail, okay. Okay. Hey, Joe, what your record is over there in Florida? Let's, let's get on. Two and O.

Huh? Two and O. Two and O. Running back, running back for the Gators. Probably going to be first round, pick. Top 10 draft pick. There you go. Joe, listen, man, you got to find the silver

line. And Joe, I'm just telling you, Joe, you got to find the silver line. Hey, hey, we won and one. Kent State, my school, we're one and one, Joe. And then, you know what we're about to go do this week? We're about to go up there. Oh, down there to Columbus, and we're going to

put belt on them buck eyes. Debo, you don't believe that yourself. You know you go down there to go get, hey, my nephew. You're going down there. Timmy, Jay Timans. Look here, boy, we're coming down there and we're going to do this to you.

You hear me? Kitt's State. Dibo, y'all ain't about to go do nothing to Kent. Y'all ain't about to go do nothing in Ohio State. And you know this. Y'all about to lose by 50. And especially since they just lost to Texas, they got a point to prove.

Y'all getting them angry. Come on, man. You know what it's about to be out there. Y'all just go out there. and just hope everybody doesn't get, you know what I'm saying? We want everybody to come out healthy. Look here.

Look here. Look here. Look here. Look here. I'm going to tell you right now. What? I'm going to tell you right now. We're going down there.

They're priming for the picking. They think that's, listen, they might be mad. They're thinking they're going to come put about a half a hundred owners or maybe 100 on us before halftime. It ain't happening. Joe, I'm doing that good. Right now I'm talking reckless. I am talking reckless right now.

You're talking reckless, man. You shouldn't, you shouldn't be. this excited. You know what I'm saying? Don't get all hype hype. We won. Our Steelers, obviously we played to win the game, but we don't act like we just won the Super Bowl. My Steelers won because I don't feel your energy right now. Okay, my Steelers won. And then Dog Browns got what they had coming to him, Joe. Look here, Joe. Let's go ahead and jump on into this, man, because I've seen something about right here, look here. Make sure y'all

like, subscribe and download. We got a lot of y'all in that. Charette, look here. Hey. defeated the falcon, 20 to 13. Yes. Yes, we did. Oh, now you want to talk about some wheat. Debo. Now you're French. I've been telling, I'm French, but now we're talking about our Steelers are playing against the Falcons.

I'm excited about it. I'm hype that we got the dub. So we're going to talk about it. But I'm just saying, we can't get too overly geeked. Look here, Joe. So a win, a win is a win. A win is a win. A win is a win, Joe.

A win is a win. A win is a win. But I have so high, I have high expectations for the still. Joe, Joe, listen, we go get to that, but you got to take what it is why you can. For sure. For sure. For sure. It's way easier to line.

We didn't start the game off how we wanted to, you know what I'm saying? We got the ball. We go ahead out there. We do a hot little freeing out, you know? Atlanta get the ball back. Defense, do what they do. And I don't know, man. There was a man over there about, you know what I'm saying, about that.

about that third down and four. Alex Houssmith? Hey, Alex Housman, you know what he did to that boy? He walked that boy back there. I think it was 70. He was named Matthews. Matthews went on walk that boy back. Well, Matthews was getting worked a lot.

Getting worked a lot, man. Go on here, get that sack. They punt that bell back over. Hey, they hand that thing to Rico real quick. He busts a quick six. You know what I'm saying? They throw that. Moo, he go on here, get him nine.

Yes, sir. E.K. went on ahead, caught one for a high six on the next first. and then he hit Pitman for the 21. Yes. Michael Pittman, Jr. We start out. We start out. I ain't tripping on it.

You know what I'm saying? We kick a field. Goebbots come in there, bust that three, four. Bank row. Atlanta come out there. They kind of converted a couple first downs on this.

Yeah. Bejohn was getting a little action. That's the main thing. That's what we're telling us. He got a little action, Joe. We know that was going to happen. We ain't tripping on it. We ain't tripping on it.

We ain't tripping on too much. But, you know what they did? They went on ahead. They couldn't do nothing. They got that ball on that second down, Joe. They allotted self-inflicted wounds. Jalen Ramsey passed break up on Kyle Pitts. Did you see it?

I saw it, man. He got beat, didn't panic. Went on head, got back up there. Reach the hand up there. And you ain't put no contact on him, you know what I'm saying? They got to put the rock back over to us, do what they got to do. I understand that. And then, bro, we get the rock back.

And I never thought I seen that coming, man. My man, Jayling goes and fumbles the rock, man. That's 27 hand the back. to him, they recovered the thing at the 25. Mm-hmm. That's what we can't do. Atlanta, this nice little short field, man. I ain't liking this, man.

And then, man, that boy, boy, boy, be John, he went on here to shake back on a little hot, little 23. Yes. Twanky-three. Right there, though, right there, though, Echoes 26.

You got to force him back to Jalen Ramsey. He ran in between y'all. It's three guys out there. We got outside leverage. got to make sure that you get that outside and force him back into Jalen. Force him to your help. You let him skate in between you guys. 26, you got to beat that block and force him back to Jalen.

He's running full speed. So if he's able to cut back right into Jalen, that's where the tackle is. You got to get that block. You got to get over that and make sure that he comes back to your help. For sure, for sure. Now, look here, man, we're going on here, get the ball back. And we're about to do it, and then we get a sack. But we got to like that.

It was a holding call. It was a holding call. So we go on head. We get, I think we're about, about third and seven, something like that. And we get to, like, I think it was. Who was it? Was it, what's the name got the PI? No, he didn't get the PI.

I'm wrong. They, they PI Roma Wilson. They PI Roma Wilson. No, no, no. That was the one that were D.K., he dropped it. But he should have called it. But it was kind of like a PI, but not really a PI. You know what I'm saying?

But it was PI. But I wouldn't count that as one of his drops, so to speak. You know what I'm saying? Oh, no, I know what you're, you're talking about the one that is. Yeah. That was a tough, you, it's a tough catch. You got to, you can make that. You can make that hit both of your hands.

DB was grabbing you on the back a little like, that's just a contested catch. So when I just call it drop, that's a tough one. That's tough. That's not as simple as some of the other ones. Yeah, he went back to him. I think that next play, he got the first time. But we ended up again having to settle for a field goal. Bonds coming there, do what he do.

We six, seven. Atlanta gets the rock back, you know. six seven. Hey, how do they do that? Six seven like that. Yes. Six seven like that, Joe. That's how you do that thing, six seven like that, though.

Okay. Okay. Atlanta got a nice return on that, though. When we kicked that rock on, but they got a holding call. So that game. That's what I'm trying to say, too, was a lot of Atlanta self-inflicted wounds.

So, you know what I'm saying? They were hurting themselves. They were shooting themselves in the foot. All in the penalties? That return was crazy. Yeah. And then your boy, Cooper Rush, I don't know, I think he got a little confused.

Then he thought Brisker, I think he thought he was playing for them. And he gone ahead and gift-wrapped us one over there to the interception. So now, hey, we got the short field. We starting on 1131, Joe. Brother, we are playing against the third-string quarterback, so he should not be able to get off on us. When the ball's in the air, it's our ball. Joe, let me get some positive energy here.

This is positive energy. Joe, we can talk about that later, Joe. We can talk about that later, Joe, right now. I'm like some positive energy. I got you, I got you. We did that little flea flicker, though, dumped that thing off over there, the jailing. He went 18 to the 13, Joe.

Yes. And that third three, who we get, Joe? Move. Fire move. Who for the six, y'all, touchdown. Ah, ha. Yes. Yes.

Points off turnovers. I was cool with that. I ain't undone. But I'm talking about when the Lenny got the rock back, baby. When Atlanta got the rock bat baby, they got that first down. So they went, I think it was where he was five and five. B. John hit five and five. So on that first one, dude, yo, P. Dub got to come inside that tight end, bro.

You can't, you can't get outside that right there because now you allow him to be able to get in there. And if it wasn't for the fact that Queen was able to somehow still get over the top and shake on that line in and, you know, make that tackle, we could have we could have stopped that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. For a short way, a shorter game than that. And then I think the next play is where, was it Herbic? I think it was Herbic, like where he, like, you got to make that play, bro. Yes.

We're in the back field. It's talking for a lot of. You got him. Just wrap up. Get the legs. You got him. You got to make that play. Yes.

Got to make that play. They got to get the first down. Mm-hmm. And then, my God, T.J. He said, hey. Switch me size. He said, it's sweet over there. I had a part of told him it's sweet over there.

Seventy doing things. He don't know how to do so. He hands in the mouth. Man, I'm a whooping. I'm a hooded face mask. Try it. Do everything I can. But hey, DJ Watts.

Hey, man, that face mask ain't going to help you now, baby. Ah, sack him. Sack them. So, sack him. Elite. Elite. Elite. Elite.

Elite. That man, T.J. Watt was going. getting off that ball. That's why we pay that man that money, y'all. I mean, that's what I'm saying. He looks healthy. Lung's good.

Everything's good. That's just early. You know what I'm saying? Everything good. What's all for a show, Joe. Look here. Did you see Brisker fire on Bison? Yes, sir.

Get to that third one, though. Mm. That's how you same foot, same shoulder, rap and scoop. Yeah. Give him that work, man. Get him that work. I like it. And then the next play, bro, hey, going on here make that man fire.

35, 35 came on there. He said, hey, give me a fumble. Six or a loss. Brother, brother, brother. That's what I'm talking about with my man, Dean. There's dirty things to your job. Close the gap. You see the titan.

Now you're closing the space. Bejohn don't know how nowhere to go. He's trying you. Punch the ball out. That's what I'm talking about. He's tackling. I like Dean because he's going to throw his, he's going to throw everything in there. Yes, sir.

Yes, sir. Okay, right. Okay, right. And then we get correct. We got like three penalties, something like that, the delay a game. Oh, D.K. get an Opie. It is what it is. We got to punt the back over there.

But, yeah. Then Karen Mayer comes out here, opens up his, his, his, his, uh, PBOUs. Just off a pop up in all. No question. No question. Look here, me, open up the PbU on them right there. Man, they go on here, Atlanta getting in the field goal range. They bring out the kicker. Hey, I'm sitting there.

I said he going to miss it. But I thought it was the other dude. It's still, he hadn't missed, but he missed. I was right. Even though I was wrong with who it was, I was right on the result, Joe. Yes. Okay? We get the ball back, man.

Third and 15, man. We get the third and 15. Old Rogers hit Wilson for Twanky, man. Yes. We get to third and 13, man. And Wilson, he dropped the ball. But he hit the ground. kind of hard, you know.

It hit the ground really, really hard. Yeah, but it should, it's another one or one that should have been a PI. Yeah. At the hand on him. At the end of the day, you got to make a play. You got to combat catch it. If it's a DB and the receivers. He had the hands on him, Joe.

You got to catch the ball, man. You got to catch the ball. And when you hit the ground and ricocheted hair, whatever, but like, these are tough, tough. We're not saying this is like, I don't think it's a drop. I'm just saying. I mean, dang, catch it. You still could catch it. If you catch it, we're in the NFL.

That's a lead. That's a true life, PIA. He holding on to him, bro. Stop playing with me, bro. He holding on to him. Okay. We go for it. We go for the field.

If I'm going on it. And I don't know what the snapper was thinking here. I guess he was on his, he was looking at the clock. I think he looked at the clock and saw that the time was going down. But like, they reset it. They did the, you know, old reset. He snapped the ball. He get, he get the hold a fight on.

You know, he get too sweet five on. on we don't turn the ball over on downs right there. But defense come out there, do they think three now? Yeah. You know, okay. We can get the rock back. I think Rogers ended that half. What was a sack?

You got sack to something? Yeah. We're going to the second half, okay? We're getting to the second half, and it's, you know, it's another nice return. But this time, no penalty. We got to do something about our coverage. Our covers team, yes. The long loading times.

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Yeah, I ain't, you know, I ain't true. But again, the hand that rock to be John, he'd get another five. I need queen, I need you to come down on that faster. Can't have you bounce there sitting, waiting for the guard to come up to you, man. Shoot down on that thing, baby. Shoot down on that thing. You do that right there. By running that thing out of halftime, about six times in a row.

Brough, they were, yeah. Well, you know, we knew, we knew what that was going to do. What else go, do that's going to get a man to rock. You know what I'm saying? They got a third-string quarterback in there. That's what we got to do. Pass it to him, drop it off to him, dump it to him, hand it to him. And then the very next play, the queen comes down on that thing.

He shoot that thing, man, only get like two yards. So now we're at that, what was it, third and three by then? Uh-huh. We're giving us a chance. But we had a little confused, and it looked like. on that third down right there. They end up picking up five, you know what I'm saying? So they get the first down.

I think he goes so about five and seven on the next couple plays. And it's another first down. But we hold him. Cam, pass breakup again. We hold them. We hold them. Look here, man. They attempt another field goal.

Hey, I ain't even worried about it. Man, missed again. I ain't even a lie to you. I was surprised when he finally ended up making one, man. He had a bad day. Yeah, we get to like that third and six. And, uh, BK, well, I thought he, I thought he dropped it, dropped it, but that was another PI didn't miss, dude.

That was a little. That was a, that was a tag early, yes. That was legit. Yes, when he took, he hit that hand. I'm a corner, I'm playing him. If you beat like that, I'm loving the way you're jumping because you're trying to hit it right before it gets there. And the referee didn't call it.

That's going to be, that it's so bang, bang. It's not, was it as blatant. But if when you slow it, down, he hit him before the ball got there. So if he would have thrown back, it's a pass and a fair. It ain't even just slow down. You saw that one, man. It was.

It was. He was holding on to it. He can't move his hand. Yes, I know, Debo. That was more, that was a pass in defense. That was a pass in fairness. For sure, for sure. For sure.

We're going for a fast for that thing. I think it's late in the third. They end up, he finally makes a feel of a war to come down to. You know what I'm saying? We got 13 to 10 now. You know, we come out there and we do nothing with it. We give them a three. and out.

Atlanta come back out there and immediately Dejan take off for a 20 piece. Okay? But he fumbled the ball. But we're able to cover the right. And then my guy,

T.J. Watt said, hey, look here, man. I'm done with this bull spit. First down, that man said, only thing I could do because you're running the ball is just stopping. Yeah. I stop him for zero.

He said, okay. You go past the ball on second now, second to ten. You go past the ball. He said, uh-uh. Look here. I got to take Madison to my own hands. Come on, bro. Interception.

Touchdown. And on that play, Joe, you know what happened, Joe? What was up? Wow. He became only the second player in NFL history to record 100 sacks plus. And 10. Inecespses plus. Only other person to do it since they started keeping stats of sex is Julian Pepper's.

All the fame. Hey, it's crazy. HOF is you already know what it is. H.O.M. I say this. It's going to joke. When T.J. Watt is on the field, Debo, help you at 100%. It's not just like he does it all the time.

He does it all the time. Look at it. He does it all the time. It's unbelievable. And that's why we're saying when T.J's out there healthy, is he, oh, no, we need to move on from T.J. No, you don't. You don't do nothing.

You have players like that. What you talking about? I'm talking about anybody that's saying anything crazy. T.J. Watt is that man? Getting, did you, the ball, you talking about just batting balls down. He's picking them off, Dibo. That's like the jug machine coming at you. Like, right here, five feet from the jug machine.

Ching, let me get that. He's a baller. Come on, T.J. Swat. What the Wad is? Oh, what the swat is. T.J., that's how you take matters into your own hands. Hey, look here, man. Atlanta, get back out there.

Herbert. What did you do, too? Bro, you got this man wrapped up in the backfield. You got Bijon wrapped up in the backfield, and you lose him. He goes for 14. Yeah. Then, just wrap up. Rush.

It's Dyson for, what was it, 19, something like that? I, at some point, at some point, brother, listen, they don't pay you, what is that, 25, Herb, they don't pay you 25, baby. We got to make the ones that's just sitting there free. Layups. We got to make the layups. Let's go, lock in, baby. We try to at least stand up, you know what I'm saying?

I think the, what, next three players or whatever, I think they end up, they actually make another. No, no, no, no, no. He missed that one. Oh, this is the one he made. He makes the field goal, right? So now we got what it's the 13 to 20. Again, kickoff landed short, though. Kickoff landed short.

When they kickoff land short, though, you know what happens? You know where they put you? It puts you at the 40 job. That's when they put you at the 40 job. You know what you need to do. You need to at least get a field goal. We get a 50 yard, 56 yard, field goal to 10, and I don't even know how this happened. My man, Bob.

Well, boss. It's not like them. Hey, it's not like Bob's, man. It's a little wide, right? You know what I'm saying? It's still 13 to Twanky. You know what I'm saying? I ain't true.

I ain't tripper. First down. B-Zone. Again. 15. Out to the 39. Joe. Third down come.

Come on, Debo. That man, what that man name is, Joe? Alex. High Smith. High Smith. Get your ass up out of field. Hunt! They hunt!

Hunt! Hey, and then the offense go out there and close it out. Joe. Hey, I ain't going to lie to you, Joe. I'm happy. I'm happy, Joe. But this is what I'm going to do.

I'm going to do this for my guys, man. Listen, I'm going to the good stuff, man. Okay. You know what's the good stuff here, Joe? What's the good stuff? T.J. Y. 1,000 percent. two sacks three tackles for it lost interception touchdown high smith two sacks hey guess who was our leading past defender

who past defender cam heyward he had three of them time oh obviously mr pb u pb u big arms i might have to start calling him swat man no Three piece D-line I like what I saw as a whole You know Matter of fact I like what I saw As a whole defense

Defense you know They did They did well I think it was what It was two or 12 On third down But what I didn't like It's a little spots

Here in there When my inside backers Wasn't getting downhill Fast That wasn't coming down there I didn't like our tackling Tackling needs to be better Herbant

Tackling needs to be better We could have shaved another, what, 30 yards or something? Yeah. You know? What about you, Joe? Ebo, everything you're saying is exactly right. I think that with the Steelers, I have such a high expectation for what I want us to do and the plan that I have for the Steelers.

That's the only reason why I try to come at it like, you know what I'm saying, more conservative and don't try to get too up, too down, because we got bigger fish to fry. The plan is trying to get to the playoffs and winning a. Super Bowl, period. So when you're- playing the Super Bowl or a day, Joe. No, no, this one, but when I'm judging the Steelers, when we're starting the season,

the beginning of the season, at the end of the day, the goal is to win the Super Bowl at the end of the season. So when we do leave the game, I'm hype because we won. So it's always easier that we say to grade tape when you win a game, then when you do the game. Because the goal and the plan, we play

to win the game. Yes, sir. So now when I'm looking at us, it's like, boom, like you said, defense, okay, was looking good. Sometimes with the running game, we know we're playing against a third string quarterback. So with this game, I'm expecting us to go out there. We got to stop BJ Robinson. Way, I want to look at a way, way, way more dominant performance. Yes. We're playing against the third string quarterback. Yes. That's all I'm saying. We got me John Robertson. We know the only person that can affect us is the only person.

We can run. They were giving it to him out of the backfill. And we said this. We like, look, I don't give it that with Drake London. He's going to catch a cup. We had about 30 yards. the receivers they're not going to be, Kyle Pitts had nothing. Zero punches for zero-knit. He ain't only threw it to him, I think, once, right? One time, pass break up. Like, nothing at all. So I'm looking at it like, look, Steelers, we know what we got going on.

Defense, we don't have to worry about too much on-oh besides Bejan Robinson. They're going to be handed to him left, handed to him right, tossed into him out the back field, screening it to him. So when we did have our opportunities, like you said, if we would have made a couple of those tackles on the defensive back, when they screened it out to Bejohn, if we just feel and make sure he cuts it back in, and Jay Lamarmsy gets that tackle, boom.

Like, just simple plays like that. I'm like, okay, we're playing against them. We know it's Bijon. Let's just get to our gaps, do a couple of things right. Good job. But let's look at the tape and there's certain things we can fix and it could be a dominant performance. Exactly.

Good job. Not great. Not great. Not great. Good. Because you got to measure who you're playing against. We had another quarterback in there that was actually being able to throw some of them dots.

He threw with the drusker that floater across the middle. That's just you threw a lollipop. So I'm like, okay, Thank you for the lollipop. If that's a dot, it might be looking like a little bit different. So with the defense, solid, a couple of things that we can look at, making our tackling, tightening that up, filling up some of the gaps on the Bijan drawing on the outside. You know what I'm saying? But then, Cam Hayward, like you said, stepping up.

Are you kidding me? All those pass break up, all those batted balls. T.J. Watt, two sacks, a pick six. Highsmith, sacks. Like, our playmakers, our defense align, those do make plays, like game changing plays. did what they had to do. So when we look at this, we're just like grading on that. Cam, T.J., oh, my goodness, y'all balled out.

Jalen Ramsey, when you had to making those plays in the backfield, Dean, like stepping up, punching the ball out. Like, that's good stuff. That's good work. Defense, okay, we can always improve on certain things, but that was nice. Offensive side of the ball, okay. Let's look at, okay, running game wasn't as bad. Sometimes Jalen Warren was hitting the hole really well.

I would look at the one thing that kind of Aaron Rogers was some passes a little off, like we had Wilson on the seven, so he missed a couple of passes. My main thing was, it's early in the season. We're going to be good. No turn up, no pets. And you got to realize something. That's his first game now. Wilson?

We got these. When they started sliding that lineup and we started getting those one-on-one contest, I'm like, okay, D-K, is you, you versus him. Those are 50-50s that we have to win those. Roman Wilson, we're one-on-one, down the field. It hits you in the chest. Like, you dropped it. You know what I'm saying?

Like, there's opportunities there. But it's like often. Like, D.K., you got to catch that. The 10 and in the dig. Hit them right in their hands. I'm like, okay. Like, some of this stuff, brother, you're the highest paid player on our offense making $30 million a year. You're a number one receiver.

That's what we have you here. These plays need to be made. You know what I'm saying? It's not like these. You got to make the routine. Yeah. Like, you can't be a number one and drop two balls. And especially when it comes down to it, like you're not getting that many targets.

Like, you're, you're, you're. drop percentage is too high to be able to be considered as that number one guy and go out there and drop balls like that. That's just not what we're going to be able to do and be productive. I like the fact that we started using fire move. I think fire move went, what, five? He got five for 46. Yes.

We had, um, Jalen, like you said, he had an okay day, you know what I'm saying? He only had 10 carries, but he got 46 yards. No, Pittman, he went three for 58. And the thing, like the bat, like the offensive line, bro, we need to be able to block, period. Yeah. One game, the past game. And the crazy thing is, as much y'all want to talk about old Rogers, he's this and that. And if we wanted for Rogers getting that ball out and seeing where it need to go, it would have been able to look worse than that.

Like, we have to shore up our offensive line. We have to be able to pass protect better. We have to get a running game going because without it, dude, we're not going to have to have. unique success. Like, we won this game and we still lost the time of possession against the third string quarterback. Like, come on. Yeah.

So we on the same page. I think the good thing is, it's always better to when you're able to end the other day. You got to win the games. You got to win. That's the plan. So we went out there. We won, but there's always room for improvement with the offensive line. Like with Aaron Rogers, he was missing a couple of those passes with D.K.

Medcaf, Roman Wilson. We got to make plays. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the thing. When you get your one-on-ones, you got to make those. Like, we got to hit with more of those big plays because they started, bro, it was basically no safety. They was like, look, it's one-on-one. What you're going to do?

So then that's when we started having to do those shots to roaming, shots to decay. It's like, man, you get that opportunity. It's supposed to be roused on air, run a fade ball on them. And then if you got them close, give them a little, give them a little. And the OPI is like, you can't blatantly push. You got to be smooth enough to, like, smooth, like a little elbow, not to extend it on. Yeah, all in all, man, I'm happy we got to win, but we got a lot of things that we can correct and adjust and get better at. That's, you know, that's what happens when you get into the season, you know, especially when you first start the season.

Your whole objective of that is to start wherever it is that you're at and do a steady incline until you go all the way through into the Super Bowl and so on and so forth. But you don't want to be, you can't be peaked right now. Yes, sir. Where you got to go. Right, right. My Washington up there is still throwing people into the dirt. Oh, my goodness. Did you see that stiff on?

Right. I'm trying to tell them, man. They ain't listening to what I'm saying, man. Listen, y'all trying to do all this cutting. Listen, y'all trying to do all this cutting, man. Listen, somebody got to say, you know what? If it was me out there, I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to try and fire off on him.

I'm trying to put him to sleep. I'm shooting. I'm just going straight in. Like, like, I'm running at alignment. I'm better what I'm saying. It's doing the screen. You know how they do the screens? They would cut me.

I'm like, I'm like, they ain't allowed to cut. They ain't allowed to cut no more, right? No. So what I'm saying? When he's, he's looking at you, you see him and he's seeing you. Yes. Run up top and just dive back. Yes.

I'm trying, I'm, bro, I am, it's going to be to put somebody to sleep, you got to be willing to go to sleep. Facts. I'm willing. I'm willing. I know you are. I know you are. I wake up later and do. get it all over with, man.

I ain't tricking. That's a good nap. I told you that's some of the best sleep I never had. I told you that, Joe. Look at it. Say, man. Juan Brisker was asked if the players had any idea

if nephew, Joey Porter, Jr. would play or not? We got to sign this is his answer. You guys have an idea that Joey might not play and what do you see out of Assonte in this place? I don't know. But for, you know, the corners out there that, you know, play with us today, they did very well. We communicated. We were on the same page. They didn't miss a beat. And in the run game, they were amazing. I mean, you see them guys coming up and hit. Dean almost had a strict fumble.

We should have on that and things like that. So, yeah, definitely great play. Has the uncertainty been at trouble at all? The uncertainty of whether he's, the uncertainty of whether he would or wouldn't, does that be an issue at all for you guys as you prepare for a game? No. Okay. Because we've been playing. Appreciate you. We've been playing with Dean and Asante and other quarters on the whole year.

So, I mean, obviously we know what we got when he comes back. But he's been in and out. And, I mean, we just been on the same heartbeat. And I feel like that's what's different with this team. Like, we don't flinch. And that's the amazing thing about this team. Joe, listen, man, you don't have to ask her what they ask you. You just got to be there and available to answer.

But you don't have to answer that question. Debo. That's how you do it. That was get that man an Oscar. Get that man an Emmy. That's how you get out of a question without setting nobody up. You answer what you want to answer. And he did it perfectly, where you gave them like, you know, boom.

And that pause, that pause, Dabo? Yes. Like this. D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D. He was like, okay, let me. I don't know. But Joaquin, yes. Yes.

Let me tell you about my boy over here. What's his name? Let me tell you about who is playing out here. Because guess what you can do? You can control what you can control. The thing is with that is, you know what it is. It's a business that's going to be called a junior. It's the business aspect.

So he's like this. I'm a player. I'm the safety. My contract is with distillers. And I've been playing right now. We've been doing the whole training camp. Dean's been in there. Desante's been in there.

We've been vibing. I've been starting. We've been communicating. When Joey Porter comes, he's in there. We communicate. You know what I'm saying? So as me being the safety, whoever's in here, we have great communication. These dudes have been bawling.

Did you see Dean out there today? Did you see Assante out there today? The dudes actually had a great game. Played well. Boom. Move on. See, this is the thing that a lot of these people don't understand is that we communicate with each other. Like, just because he's having a dispute with the Steelers doesn't mean he's having

dispute with his brothers in that locker room. No. Like, communication is there between the players. Trust and believe. Mm-hmm. Okay. Him not answering that question is the greatest thing you did. Literally.

Literally. Literally. I mean, we know what y'all don't know, and we ain't going to know. never tell you. Understand. Trust and believe this is not the distraction. They understand the business of it. We all understand the business of it. We want to see everybody get paid. Whether it happens, that's not our choice because we're not in control of that. But I think that you did ask for a trade. I think I heard I saw a report of that. So I understand that may be a that may be a good thing considering.

that no contract is done and they don't negotiate in the season. I would say it's a great thing, especially for him if it happens. I don't see, I don't see why it wouldn't happen as long as, you know, I guess if the Steelers get

whatever that value is, they think they should get, then I don't see it, you know, being an impossibility, especially with it being so early in the season. Uh-huh. But Joseph, the, um,

Jaguise, what don't, And somebody named the clear around 3410. Man, that man, Douchon Watson, he played. He played, bro. I watched it. I was watching the game, right? And I was watching it.

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Listen to the NFL report podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. They got the ball first, of course, and I'm watching this thing, And I see it. I'm like, oh, I see the first play. I see the second play.

I'm like, oh, they ball and I see the third play. I'm like, oh, that boys are doing that. Hey, man, I see the fourth play. All the boys do it. So I just turned it off and I stopped there. Debo, shut up. I just turned it off. And then I wake up and I see that it's 34 to 10.

What happened? Because I turned it off by the fourth play in the offense. I saw he was doing this thing. the 2006 season at the very beginning it got bad fast debo so you're talking about you sitting there line i know you watch the game i know you watch i see the first four plays the fifth play of the game was the was the pick with 12 minutes in 11 seconds 12 minutes and 11 seconds in the in the in the first quarter second and five on the 23 yard line like you said our first couple of plays the Sean started off beautifully. He got confused, play action. He didn't realize.

Nice little dunk to the tight end. You know what I'm saying? Gain the 10, 15. You know what I'm saying? Then, yeah. And then after the fifth play, we got picked off. He got confused, bro.

That's what they said. He got confused, Joe. And he thought that he was playing for Jacksonville. And he threw it to the, to the Jacksonville player. And, no. They said, then the Brown's defense said, we go do better than the offense. And then.

And then. Oh, they said they went eight plays at least before they let them score. Yeah. And that was just real. And when he, when, what's my man named? Trevor Lawrence hit my man Parker on that corner route. That's just man-to-man coverage. My man hardened.

The corner got worked. He just got hit off the line. Boom. And then he was in trail technique from the beginning. And I was just man-to-man, outside leverage. Nothing to safety can do that's nobody's fault but you. Your man-to-man coverage. We need maybe a little bit more.

And he only had two and a half seconds to throw. He was standing there for two. Boom. I counted it. One, two. He threw it at two and a half. I was going to ask you when Miles could have helped out. He got to get there.

I was going to ask you if Miles could have. But that wouldn't have worked because he couldn't have done two seconds, right? Get the ball again. Our third possession. I mean, our second possession. Three and out. Three and out. Yeah.

That went three and out? Yes. He what? He said he tried to throw it to another... You just keep a scrambling to the side and I'm, and do it to the ground. I think he was confused to the other first quarter. That was... So I think he might have been confused for the first quarter.

Okay. Now, listen, it's okay. It's okay. Because I hear the defense went out there and they... They didn't. They said they gave them a first down on the second and four by just lining up in neutral zone. Is that true? Like, why would they?

Undisciplined. And that's the other part. It was self-inflicted wounds. Oh, no, uh-uh. They said that Jacksonville did try to help him. And they gave him a false start. They false started. And he did an illegal forward pass.

But they still scored the touchdown. They still scored a touchdown. Hose in the zone. We're rushing four sitting in the zone, letting Trevor Lawrence have all day. People just run it all through the zone, all through the zone, butt naked.

And we need to play deep to short. Is this the same defense from last year that y'all decorden? Oh, he left. That's right. I forgot. I'm sorry. So it was 14-0 by then, huh? And then not,

Fanon? Fanon, what's the, dude, the tackle? He got beat for a sack. What? Is that true? Oh, my goodness. When they made it 14-0, that was just, that was combat catch. That was good defense.

That was, that was a great throw, great catch. He threw it through a window on three through three players. It don't matter. It was still a touchdown, right? Still a touchdown. You still right. And then the Browns got back out there, and that's when your tackle gave, that tackle you've been talking about, he gave up a sack.

Yes. And then Jags. That's what we ended the first quarter. And then they scored her. They just scored her. They just won and got a field goal. They just won't have a field goal. Okay.

Yeah. But no. No. Debo. Casey Concepcion? Casey Concepcion? Let me get in on the action? My young bull.

And gave him the ball? Is that here? Yeah. And I like Casey Concepcion. I mean, when it rains, it pulls. Rookie, first game in season. He was out there fighting and trying. But, like, no, I mean, when it rains it pulls.

Oh, he said they wasn't going to be in the mouth. He's going to be a part of this too. Poffed up. So he gave him a turnover too. And then they went, they scored another touchdown after that. Yeah, off the turnovers, man. Two TDs off the turnovers. Wow.

Hey, hey, listen, I'm just telling you what the people over here and tell me. What they tell him? I didn't watch the thing. They said it started the second half, they went on down there and got another touchdown with 31 nothing. Yeah. We went holding. But before the halftime, when we just started going flags galore, holding, false start, holding.

Well, Joe, what you want them to do? They're scared. They just sit there, un-motionless, and then they can't block. So they're just holding. I just get them, don't hit the song. With our hopes and dreams, all right there. And that, man, that's why we start them.

That's a coach, know, that's all we got. Joe. D.bo, once it's 30, once. Oh, hold up. They say y'all got a drive going on about four quarter. They said you got a drive. We return. We are return, man.

My man, 23, almost taking it to the crib, taking it to the 23-yard line. Like a 75, 70, 80-yard return. What happened, Joe? What happened? We get three. Penalties. Delay a game. You got three, man.

Good job. Delay a game. It wasn't a shutout, Joe. You got to look at the silver lining. And we're talking about, no, no, no. It's just we, on this drive, when we got the return all the way down there, and then we get the delay of games and the snap penalties, the pre-snap penalties, we talked about Deshaun.

That's what was supposed to be looking good, is our pre-snap before, before the snap. I think, I think somebody. It was not a good day. They said he might be better than Aaron than pre-snack. Who said that? Nobody, nobody said that. They would They would

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We do a 48 yard Touchdown To Denzel Boston Love to see it Thank Thank you We got

Like But All of our that touchdown was, once the game, the game was over after the first quarter. And then at halftime,

it was, oh, y'all gave up after first quarter. No, no, we didn't give up. But if nothing, nothing was the, there was no discipline. There was no discipline, Dibo on the offensive side of the ball,

defense side of the ball. We couldn't get anything going. It, there was not, there's not too much of anything positive to say about that game. I mean, I think it's positive. I mean, 16 or 22, that's a high percentage show.

DeShine went 16 to 22. That is a high percentage show. Like, Andy scored a touchdown, you know? Like, he was only sack five times. Like, what are we talking about? And that defense y'all got, y'all defense? I don't, that ain't the same defense. Because, I mean, every quarterback did good out there.

Like, you got to think about it. Trevor Lawrence, he went 18 of 23. Deshaun was 16 to 22. Like, that's good. You know, except, you know, instead of being sack five times, he got four touchdowns. You know?

Y'all did win something, though. What is that? 11 penalties. I had 11 penalties, so. That's good. You got to win somewhere. You see what I'm saying? You got to win somewhere.

And if it, it don't matter where, we get a win somewhere. When you're a Cleveland Brown and you're a Cleveland Brown fan, y'all got to take whatever wins you can get. You understand that? And that's a win. Don't you never let tell nobody tell you nothing different?

Win is win. Hey. Debo. Listen, your head coach. Your head coach. Tile Monk on whether he is going to stick with Deshaun Watson. It's been week two. This is what he had to say.

And I understand him. I'd rather just talk about today because I haven't had time to even look at the tape. I mean, I'm sure as hell not firing me. I'm not firing our staff. I'm not giving up all of our players.

So he happens to be one of 53 and however many practice squad guys we got and our staff, he's one of that. So we'll evaluate everything. But to just say that emotionally here at the end when we're, you know,

I mean, we just didn't play good enough. They didn't coach well enough. Hey, Joe, hey Joe, look here, man. I'm just, I want to ask you if it was you, if and it was you, Joe, and you was the head coachman, do you get, do you get Deshaun one more week, Joe? Or do you go on out there and say,

Shadir, go ahead and see what you can do against the bucks? With the Browns, it's more than the quarterback position right now, too. It's no matter who was behind center. I thought you had a good defense, though. you got to play the games. And when I was out there just watching what we saw, there was no pressure. There was no, we were out there running four-man pressures and not being able to get to Trevor Lawrence.

He was standing back there with all day to throw. And when we had some zones, they were just finding holes in the zones. We got to put, if we're not going to be able to get pressure with verse, I like Jared Verse. And it was his first game of the season. He had four tackles and they said it was a tackle for loss. All of those came in the fourth quarter when the game was over. So basically, like, I like to see him out, but it was, we got to find Joe.

What I'm saying is, what I'm trying to say right there, what I'm trying to say is this, everybody has to perform. Like, I want to see, we need to get, there was, we're running four man pressures. That means that we're going to have to get some pressure at the quarterback. Because if we can't do that, we got to send more. And we had to play some man to man. I can see when we were out there, Jay, I mean, Denzel Ward, he was playing a lot of zone coverages. and it's not his fault. When you're in your zone,

quarterback standing there all day, then they're going to catch him in tackle if they're finding the holes in the zone. So we're going to have to play man. Listen, Joe, they know he is a zone coverage D. No, he's not. No, he's not. Denzel can play man.

Tyson Campbell can play man. They pay him all that money to play zone, Joe. No, no, no, no. It's a home. I'm telling you what they're doing. That's why they paid him all that money to play zone, Joe. It's definitely Deshawn Watson

played not good, Debo. He did not play well. I thought he was about to say A. No, he did not play well. So, like we said, they started him for the... I thought you were going to say, you know. That's what I thought you were going to say.

And I was really hoping that you weren't going to say that. I mean, it was no... I didn't want to start Deshawn Watson from the beginning of the season. But right now, if you... For the reason why they started, him. You got to see how he's going to play. Why? Why they start? Joe? Because honestly, Shador didn't steal the job during preseason. When I was watching in that first preseason game,

both of them played, damn, they're the same. Shador's balls were getting knocked down at the line. Like, it didn't look as good. His second preseason game, when he bawled out, I'm like, if you would have did that both times, then you would have stole the job from Deshaun. I think when he didn't outplay him by a outlandish margin, they was already going to give Deshawn the job anyway, because they wanted to, the ownership. So it's like you had to steal it from him. There wasn't really a competition. When we saw when Shador was supposed to start, he's like, well, yeah, I guess we're going

to have him start this game. He didn't never have a shot if he didn't want to steal it. You know what, Joe, I'm going to steal it. I just think he didn't play bad enough to lose it. I'm going to go with Monk. I'm going to keep him in there at least for the next six weeks. For the next six weeks? Yeah, I'm going to.

No, that's too long. Why not? We got to, we got to see. We got to play y'all. We got to, we want some of that. too. Oh man. I want something of that too. By week because this is what happened. He will probably

he'll start the second game. He'll start the second game. Then if he gets smoked again, if he doesn't play well with the the team too, it's not, when I'm talking about Deshawn, everybody, a lot of dudes out there looking at not, not too. So we got a lot of people that are getting, so when Monkins

talking about, oh yeah, 53, everybody's getting graded. Yes, please do that. Grades yourselves too with the coaching. We're putting people in the position to win and having us sit back in those zones and let Trevor Lawrence just pick us apart. Let's figure some of that out. And then at the same time, when we do play, man, Hardin, you were getting cooked. So we got to make sure you have your outside leverage. Don't get beat off the line like that for a free flowing touchdown. Like, that's just not okay.

You see how I'm pulling my hair back across my ear? See how I'm pulling my hair back across my ear? That's- Yeah. Yeah. Why are you doing that? I don't know. That's just how well y'all played. how you can see me pulling my hair back across my ear. You know what I'm saying? So I'm going. I'm going to say this. Let me finish where I was going in, Debo.

Hey, Joe, hold on. Let me ask you a question. Because listen, let me ask you a question real quick. Joe, please. Go ahead. Hey, didn't y'all have like a defensive rookie over there? Or the year? Yeah.

Where was he at? Like I said, there's not, nobody played too well with Devo. they was giving it to us in every situation. So anybody, like, players got to play well. They didn't, they didn't do too. Graham, Mason Graham was probably the bright spot in our kickoff for Turner. Those are the two bright spots of the whole game. Well, when you get the ball kicked off to you that many times,

you should at least do something with one of them. Go ahead with you saying before I, so. Before you interrupted me. What I was trying to tell you is, sorry. Deshawn Watson is going to have one more game versus Tampa and we're going to go see what that looks like also. First one's not good. Second one's not good.

Then you're going to go into the... Let me not say second one is not good. Hopefully, I'm not rooting for him not to play well. But when I see what I saw, I don't think him, I don't think a lot. It's just not looking good. Ain't got no hope. Man, let's see what we got what you're doing.

Let's see what you got. With Denzel Boston, with Concepcion, just don't be fumbling. Boston, with that, throw it deep. Let's take some shot. We're still thinking and throw the ball deep. Like, let's see. Let's see what's happening.

So by this time, the next game he has against, he has to, he's going to play against Tampa. See what happens there. Because if we're, if it looks like it did for game one, when you're coming back to the crib for game three, like soon as you get, it's going to be the boo birds. Soon as like, if it's not like, you got to start playing well. And then we want to see what we have with Shador. Because for the team, for the Browns, I'm not about to say and act like we got everything going because that, oh, yeah, our defenses. No. Our defense is.

work. Our offense obviously needs work. Our team needs work. You know what I'm saying? So don't be like, what's Watson going to do? We're going to continue to lose. Let's see what we can do with Shador. Do we have a quarterback in the future? If not, we're going to continue to keep on losing and then we can go get it. Right now. You do. You do have a quarterback in the future, Joe. You do. You got two other guys on the team. So like, it's not like you won't have a quarterback. We're just saying that, you know, you, you got a quarterback now in the present. It's just not very productive, you know? That's all.

Everybody, anybody can have it. Everybody has a quarterback, Debo. But is he worth, but is he worth a franchise quarterback where you can build on where the Browns are, like, but now when you're looking at the defense, we thought we need the defense, and now we just need the franchise quarterback. Now we've got to figure out the scheme.

We got to figure out what the hell is going on in the zone that was... Can I ask you a question, Joseph? Joseph, can I ask you a question? Hey, y'all paying $230 million, right? That's what you get for $230 million. Can I go over there and see if I could at least get me $100? That was five years ago.

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