Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Steelers NFLPA Report Card Grade + Ty Simpson to Pittsburgh?

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to the Pittsburgh Steelers horrible grade in the NFLPA Report Cards, whether the Steelers should target Ty Simpson in the 2026 NFL Draft, Fernando Mendoza choosing not to throw at the NFL Scouting Combine and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline:00:00 - Joe's Mexico Experience15:45 - NFLPA Report Cards41:35 - Steelers meet with Ty Simpson (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome back to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co-host, Heyden, please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your podcast. How you're doing today, Joe. I am doing so good, Debo. I missed you.

I missed you, brother. I missed everybody. I missed the chat. I missed American soil. I miss my kids. I missed I miss McDonald's. I miss the finest. I miss the simple things in life.

You know, friends, you don't even eat McDonald's. I don't even eat McDonald's and I miss McDonald's. Okay? But, Devo, I'm glad then I'm back, brother, honestly, home, kicking it here. I'm doing amazing. I'm doing amazing. Yeah, listen, Joe, I ain't going to lie, man. It had me a little shook.

I called the man, I called the man El Hancho. Yes. You know what I'm saying? El Minchot, I called him El Hancho. You know what I'm saying? And then his home boy was the El Tullio. Yes. He took off.

He went and ordered all the chaos that happened after that. The army went and got him. This dude put, what was it, 20,000 pesos, bro, on officers, soldiers' heads out there, dude. That's only like $1,200. And that's $1,200. Hey, hey, I ain't, I ain't killing nobody for $1,200. No, man. No, man, no, man.

No, sir. But they say you could go back now. Devo. It's only a level two awareness that's needed if you go back. Anybody that take yourself over there to Mexico right now, any time in the future, you are out of your mind. Joe, do you want to go back, Joe? So this is my thing.

So I went out there for the golf trip with my homies, and they looking at me, hitting me up now, like, Joe, you got us looking like the trip was the craziest, like it never had everything. this is what happened, guys. The trip was amazing. The spot that we stayed at,

Debo, we was at Chelano Bay. When I looked and saw how... Well, you should have just stayed there. It was great. No, no, no, a thousand percent. We should have stayed. We stayed until things started to popping off on Sunday. Sunday, when things got to popping off,

that was when everybody was supposed to leave anyway. So, everybody's like, okay, boom, Cabo, we're at this spot, Chileo Bay. Now I can speak of my location, because I'm safe. I'm in my home now. Nobody knows we're in my private location. So we was at Chelano Bay.

This place is amazing. Shout out to Gino de Silvio to set it up. The trip was unbelievable. But bro, we're on the space. We're on the campus. We're chilling. We got the golf cart taking us to the house, taking us to the course, a light up nine holes.

Boom. Everything's fun. We're having a blast. I'm like sipping the margaritas. That thing I showed you. Deep boy, I got the margaritas. Sam. Give me a mark.

That was real time. drinking marks. Literally, that was joy in my eyes. Yeah, now get to the good stuff. Let me get to the greedy. So Sunday, everybody's saying, okay, bet, okay, yeah, oh, it's looking like, okay, it's popping off. Everybody's like, okay, bet, our flights are out. Okay, woo, woo, woo.

So the airport, the airport, everything was popping off at was not the airport that we were headed to. So we went to the Cabo airport. It's a lot of people in the airport, you know what I'm saying? I'm used to pack the airports. And my boys and everybody, you know what I'm saying? my flight, I have a connecting flight, I'm going to D.C. They say everything

back to D.C. It's a snowstorm. So everything back to D.C. is canceled. So now my boys are going to L.A. So I'm like, okay, and that's fine. Just get me on the flight with my boys. You know what I'm saying? I go to L.A. I just need to get out of Mexico. I didn't need to get out of Mexico. Bring me to L.A. What they say, yeah, but they say,

oh, everybody's, oh, that flight's completely booked. There's, there's no flights that you can get on to get out of here right now. Okay, but we can set you up on the flight tomorrow. Joe. I'm going to tell you what you could do, though. You could have been like a like a like a like a like a like a like a seat, like a lap child. Like it's under 200.

But anyway, go ahead. Go see, no. I'm trying to find any jump. I'm like this. No, no, you don't have to get me the same flight. Like it don't got to be for. I just give me on the plane. I don't care what seat.

I, you know, I sit up with the lady. You know what I'm saying? I could be a flight attendant. I will help in any way to get out of here. I'm sorry, sir. No, we're going to have to go downstairs and go get your bags. You know what I'm saying? Because there's no flights for you today.

We're going to have you out tomorrow. So my boys leave. And that's when I'm like, okay, bet, that's Sunday. And that's when we had a show on Monday. So I'm like, bet, let me get this. Let me get my little, okay, boom, let me get my flight, right? So then I have to get my own hotel room. I go to this nice jump montage.

Been there before. Beautiful. We go back to the resort. Everybody's chilling. Nobody acting like nothing's going on. So then next day, wake up for the show. and is getting more and more tricky. They're just, it's not like where I'm at, but who knows what cartel?

When they say they're just throwing up roadblocks, I say, where are the roadblocks? Like, how are you going to tell me that a roadblock can't be out here? Like, y'all don't know them. Y'all don't know what to stop it. So now I'm just on my own self like this. Yeah, I hear what you're saying, but you don't know the cartel. You didn't talk to El Chow. You didn't talk to them.

You didn't talk to El Mitchell. You ain't talked to El Metschow. You ain't talked to El Metschuk. He's mad. He's hot. He hot. He's random. He could just stop.

He could just stop my street. Bink, Jody, y'all ain't getting past. What am I going to say? So that's where I'm, all right, bet. Let me get out of here. They hit me and said, Joe, there's a little earlier flight. While we right before we about to get, I'm like, because I'm not even one.

I'm like, Dibu, I need to jump in, jump out. You're like, brother, all right, get home. So then I ended up getting to the airport. Make it to the airport for the earlier flight. they're still pressing me. Now, going through my bags again, I have nothing. I have nothing for you.

I have, I had too much, my cologne was too big, and I had a too much, took my cologne, took my cologne, took my spray de owner, I almost said, take it all. I don't want anything. I just want my passport. Can I have my passport? My chain and my watch and just send me home.

Golf clubs stay. Everything stay. But then we got on the flight. I was able to get home, Ebo. But that dream was what happened. Got my connect. Then I got home late, late Tuesday. Hey, Joe, I ain't a lot to you, Joe.

Look, man, I'm a, now that you home safe. Yes. All right. Yes. I have to let you in on a little secret now. What's up, man? I had to have a plan B just in case, you know. Before, here, this is what happened.

So before things, you know, transpired, you know, everybody, you know, you got to have a plan B. Yeah, you got to. So I'm done with the show and I started texting you, Joe. Yeah. And I'm getting no response. And I'm seeing bubbles, right? I'm seeing the bubbles, Joe, but you ain't responding, right? Yeah.

So now I'm nervous. All right? I'm super nervous. So then that's when I text you. I say, niggas. say something. So now I'm nervous, right? I'm scared.

So you still ain't text nothing, but I'm seeing bubbles. Oh, my gosh. Now, before you answer back, you know what I did, I started making calls. I got extracting Team 3 ready on standby. You know what I'm talking about. I do know who you talking about. You know them boys. You know them boys.

You know what I'm talking about. I got them on standby. I didn't call it. I didn't call. Hey, Joe. stuck. I don't know what's going on. I just need to know what's going on. But now, you know, now I'm thinking, though, and I'm like, I'm like, damn, we don't lost Joe. So I say, you know what? I got to go through my Joe decks, okay? And my

joey decks is contacts of people I know named Joe to see who can do the show with me. Oh, you're looking for my replacement. I'm sorry, listen, Joe, Joe, I'm just listening. So I'm thinking, Listen, Joe. Okay, I'm still listening. So I'm thinking like, Joe Burrow, I'm like, yes. That would, I'm like that, you know, so I go into, I go into damage more. I go into, you know, and I'm, yeah, I'm just, Joe, I'm a business man too, you know what I'm saying? So I'm, hey, you're safe, but listen.

So I go into business mode and I'm like, you know what? This is really bring the brotherhood together. You got a guy from Cincinnati, a guy from Pittsburgh. We get together and we agree to do this. You know what I'm saying? Keep it in the AFC North. keep it, keep it, you know, keep it a brotherhood. And, you know, came up with a rendering, Joe,

where you would still be in the show. So where your face would be, would be Joe's face. And where my face would be, would still be my face. And then over the Debo and Joe, that's right there. In the shadows, it'd be like a shadow white light type of you with an angel halo old. And remembrance of you. So you would be there in every show.

That's crazy, Debo. You see? No, I thought we had. But, hey, it don't matter. It don't matter. It don't matter because I'm here. Yeah, you're good. But, you know, I just had to let you know.

You funny for that, Debo. You funny. The team and I, we had that rendering together. You know, I mean, you got to, we was, we was hope. But like I still had, I had extraction team three ready. You did. You hit me just in case they took over my phone. Hey, hey, hey, Joe, what did I?

Debo said, bro, if you ain't here, me back, I was sending the drone. I said, I said, you got 40, I said you got 45 seconds to hit me back. Or I'm sending the drone strike where your location is. I said, tell all of them, tuck your head between your legs and kiss your ass, goodbye. Debo, you see, that's what I'm saying, man. I knew you were, you weren't looking for Joe Burrow. You were lying to them, you were looking for me.

You were still trying to distract me, bro. I would appreciate that. I felt it. I'm like, and I'm sitting there, I'm like, I can't send it. Because if I send it and then it don't happen in 45 seconds, they got him, got him. Then I was in bubbles, Debo, because I was really, I was trying to figure out what I was going to say. And then I was talking to the, I was talking to the airline people. So I'm like, I don't know what to tell him.

Well, I should be, I should have said, I'm safe. That's what I should have said, because I didn't know what to say. I'm like, niggery, say something. But Debo, look, this, honestly, real, real stuff, bro. keeping it a being. I do like traveling, but I'm going to tell you this. After that situation,

feeling of the feeling of helplessness sometimes, when you like this, when you say, when you say somebody could just block the road, and Mino speak no, and me don't speak no Spanish. Yeah. Mino Espeon.

Yo, I got one, two, three. I can count, I get, bente, I can get up there. You know, like, you know, I can get up there. I can do some numbers. for you, but when I'm getting to talking, like, when you're sitting there and you don't know the language, like, they're like, no, they're like, no, you, you, me, know, me, know, I'm like,

I just feel compromised. And then, if the cartel messed around and pull up, they, they don't have the same law, the laws as a law. So I'm like, yeah, that dream really made me feel. But, but, like, another shot back again, Chileno Bay, resort, fire, amazing. I never felt, you know what I said? Like, that joint, it was so nice. But it's just like, you never know outside that dough.

And I don't speak no espanyo. Yes, sir. I told you, Joe, I wait. I wait, what's the worst thing that could happen wherever I go? And if I can't deal with the worst thing that can happen, Joe, I can't go. Yeah. I can't go. I'm Mr. Plan B, Joe.

You got to understand that. Like, I'm all ready. Like, when I went to Mexico City, I told my people, I said, hey, if they say they got me and they won't ransom, they lying. and I fought and they had to kill me where I was at. They just took my body. See, that's not sending no pay. See, this is what I'm saying.

I will pay for my release. That's what I'm saying. I'm just trying to get me out of here safely. Please. I mean no harm, people. I'm just trying to come here, chill, enjoy this water, enjoy this view, enjoy this vibe, enjoy these tacos and these vibes.

I have no one, no drama. You know what I'm saying? No drama, Joe. Me, since you're on no one, no drama. Man. No, Joe, the NFL, PA, I don't know if they released it or who released it, but the report cards that came out. And the dolphins ranked first. And, dude, distillers are worse this year on the survey.

They got the locker room as a F-minus. Oh. Yeah. It says players reported. having only five bathroom stalls for the entire team. That is true. Deepa, that's one of, when I see it, you know, you got to run upstairs. Come on, man.

You get heavy. You got to go catch one before, you know what I'm saying? That's crazy. It said another one was the owner's ranked last in the willingness to invest in the facilities. Yes. That's because they got five. The lowest ranked home field in the league by a wide margin, they said, due to high school and college use leading the poor field conditions. That was another F-minus.

You got the strength coaches ranked last in the NFL. That was another F. And then the training staff was actually first, though. I don't know if that grade. I'm Luke Wilson. Join me each week for Film Never Lies. Since retiring from the NFL, I've had a lot of my mind. Now, I've got my own show.

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Which ones you think are appropriate and which ones you think aren't of the... I would say the one thing that I see here that's just glowing is that the locker room, that minus, for sure. And when they state facts like five bathrooms, when we think about it, like, that's just the way it was. Right. It's not okay. It's a hundred, it could be a hundred people. in that junk at one time, you know what I'm saying? People gotta go when you gotta go to get practice

and then with the showers, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's not a lot of them joints in there too. And in the locker room, when you walk in there, it's old, it's wood. It got your little name on the jump, but like when we look at it back in the day coming from, I was looking at it like, culture, this is what it is. You know what I'm saying? But at the end, when you do look at, it's like, now this is messed up. We need to have bathrooms available and like nice lockers.

You know what I'm saying? Like, there's no reason why it's showing. it shouldn't be up to grade. And that old mentality of like, no, no, no, do you get what you, this is what, this is, we have what, we have the requirements. It may not be as extravagant as you like it, but they have everything that you need. So, but the levels of the locker room, that's crazy. Five bathrooms, what I think about it, that's kind of crazy. So I did, dude, I never really counted it, to be honest, or paid attention to it, to be honest to you.

Because I'm like, all right, I know I'm going there, scan real quick, see if all the feet on there, then I'm going to shoot straight upstairs to hope I get one of the two that's up there. That's crazy. You know what I'm saying? Right. The field is what it is. You know, when you get late into that season, it gets poor. I don't think they switch it in and out.

They don't, you know, switch over the field long enough to replace it. And then sometimes they can because of the time it takes for it to be able to cure and, you know, seal down onto it. The strength coach ranked last. That's something right there. do that I think is it's more of I don't

that any of the ones I don't really agree with that one. Yeah. I think the stream coaches aren't. I think that I like them pretty good. They're more flexible to they're just not going to give you exactly everybody has to do the same thing. They're more to flexible

to what you're what you need. You know what I'm saying? So I wouldn't I would definitely say that the strength staff was better. I would go to field was probably like it is, I think, because a lot of people use it. The college teams, high school teams, events are on it all the time, quick turnover, and you got to get back out there, and that field is natural grass. So that's just going to get beat up if somebody goes and use it a day or like a little

couple days before you use it. Yeah, I think with the strength coaches, the ranking, that's kind of on an individual basis, to be honest with you, because if you want a real good strength coach, they need time, do. And the biggest issue of them needing time is a great strength coach is going to make his program to fit each person. It's going to be catered to that person. That's what I was trying to say. That's what I was trying to. Not to what they want to do. And a lot of these guys, I think, didn't want to do the kind of lifting that they were doing over there, you know, from what out, from what, from what I was hearing, it was hard manual lifting. But the biggest thing that they have

to understand is a strength coach is there to build strength. And I, think I know if you're a good strength coach, you build and you cater to the person's needs that their body tells you their need because you can't have an imbalance. And the biggest thing is when you get a 10% imbalance in between muscles, so say my hamstring and my quad, if my quad is stronger by more than 10%, now it ups the risk of injury. Now, if you get into that 15 and higher percent, it's not about when. I mean, it's not about it. If it's when you're going to pull something.

Yes. So people who pull their hamstrings a lot are quad-dominant. They have a greater deficiency there that's causing the other muscle to strain and the effect of trying to, you know, do what it needs to do. Now, if they're able to go and do a body, you know, maintenance or a body, evaluation of each player and then make the program accordingly, then that's better. But when you have coaches that a lot of them, they build a program that's for each group. Now, that program for that group that week may be posterior base for your hamstrings and everything

else. Well, this person is already hamstring dominant. They shouldn't be doing a straight three week hamstring something. They need to be doing something for the quads. You don't know that unless you get those measurements. So what you do is you get those measurements. You're like, all right, I'm going to get something. And this is what I'm going to have you focus more on so that I can close down that gap, that deficiency. Then we reevaluate the body, you know, later on three weeks later to see if we're closer within that 10% range. Debo, that is exactly right.

That makes a really good strength coach because I'm saying the strength coach that you think is coming in there, everybody got to do the same thing. this is what we do, this is why we're doing it. No, no, no, no. Each individual players, we're professional athletes here. We're here for a right reason. Some people's hamstrings need a little bit work. Some people need a little bit more upper body stuff. So when you're able to cater to the individual athlete,

that's what I think makes a really good strength coach. And when I was there, gee, he did a good job with me of evaluating what I needed, what he thought I need to get worked on. Your mind was good at that. And that's what we worked on. So I'm like, I don't know who was working on them, but I'm like, the evaluation is if they're doing that, I think that's a good strength coach.

Yeah, for sure. NFL, NFL said they will review the 2006 NFLPA cards leak. They're going to review the leak because they don't want their dirty laundry out there. Yeah. And the NFLPA may have, what do you call it, accidentally leaked it? I don't know, however you want to call it. If they get caught, they're going to be caught. And it's stupid to do it.

and make like it's a leak or whatever. But that's the NFLPA because they're trash, dude. They're trash, and they have been trash since we lost Gene Upshaw 2008. In 2007, Gene Upshaw told us, were you playing in 2007? Nope, 2010. You weren't played until 2010. So in 2007, Gene Upshaw came in, dude, and he told us, He said from that point forward, everybody save 30% of your money every year leading up to the lockout in 2011.

He said, it's not about if they lock us out. He said, they're going to lock us out. This is four years prior, dude. Okay? You have to be able to last at least 18 months. So that would give you 120% of what the money is that you made. You have sitting there ready to go for a lockout, right? Yes.

He gets diagnosed with cancer, dude, and three days later, he passes. Then comes the worst NFLP executive director we have ever had in the history. DeMarcus Fitzgerald, I mean, yeah, Marcus Fitzgerald Smith. Yes. Trash. The only thing he did on his tenure was make rules that kept himself in power. That's it. He actually changed the rules after the 2011.

collected bargaining agreement because he almost lost it. So back then, you had, what you still do? You got 32 player reps, okay? One player per team

and those players are the guys that go to all the meetings are supposed to go to all the meetings get you all the information. So back then, those player reps would approve or disapproved to bring it to the players. They approved to bring it to the players.

They'd bring it to the players. The players would then vote on it, okay? Yeah. And the numbers would be sent in, hey, this is what they voted, this was the numbers.

Majority wins, boom, boom, boom, boom. They changed that. So now only the 32 player representatives get to actually make the vote. They don't have to bring it to the players. They don't have to bring it to the players. So it's the 32 that approve or don't approve the CBA. And on top of that, the election or re-election of the executive director.

So the players don't even have a vote no more because why? It's easier to control 32. Oh, then it is a year. It is, what, almost 3,200 every time it comes to vote because you vote in the offseason. 1,600 players are there

that won't even be there at the start of the season. They go to 50% that they're looking for. Anyway, all they need is 51. Okay. And then of that 1,600, how many vests? maybe six, five, six hundred them are actually invested into the program.

You know, like there, there's no accountability or oversight of what the reps actually vote because there's no record of it. And the only way the guys will know is to ask the representative, what did you vote? And he could lie. Yeah. Damn. Now, like, where we're at with the executive committee is like, crucial. because now the executive committee is like 12 or 14 guys, okay? And these guys actually pick who you get to vote for.

So they send it out to a third party, okay? The third party is supposed to see who's qualified. And they send that back to the committee, okay? And then the committee can pick who they want to actually put out to the player representatives to vote for the new NFL NFLPA executive director or the CBA, if that's the timing of what it is. So if the NFLPA executive committee member don't put your name in a hat, you don't even get a chance to make it to get put to the third party.

And then even if you do make it past the third party and they bring it. back and say, all right, these are the six guys that made it. They then can pull you from that and put out who they want to present to the player reps. They just fired a dude. Craig Jones, dude, they just fired this dude. He worked there, I guess, almost 17, 18 years, something like that. In January, he was placed on administrative leave for sending emails that they said,

they deemed antagonists because he was asking Jalen, Haven, the current, what is he, the president of the NFLPA, he was, you know what, he was basically asking him, play that for him. He was basically asking him this question. Listen, let me see. I don't think anybody is saying that this process needs to be transparent to the media, but when you have people in your player body saying they did not know information about who is selected or who the candidate. That's Mike Jones. I think I let the executive committee did not make a recommendation because after the fact, you guys are saying, oh, we didn't recommend them, Lloyd, but why would you not want to make sure

that they were more informed and they have all the information they need so they can vote for the best candidate if possible? I think we have, in short, that they're informed. We've given a lot of feedback with that meetings with our board members. And like I said, I don't think that, no, everyone's not going to be touched.

There's always going to be someone who, who may not have been as engaged or may have missed something. But like I said, I'm proud of our process along. We've had outside council give us recommendations on changes that should be made. And we've implemented those changes. We've sat and asked our board members, what do you want to see?

Is there anything that you all feel like needs to be done to this process? And we sat there and we've heard them out. And we've continued forward with our process. And maybe there are, maybe I'm going to be missing something. Maybe there are a lot of people who, you know, did not feel like they were in the note. But I know for a fact that we put in the work and ensure, you know, everyone has the access and the ability to know what's going on. And everyone, we've kind of made the rules to the game afront.

And, you know, our player leadership knows that. And, you know, that's what we have a stand on it. You know, I can't ask for everyone, but the work that I put in, and the work that the executive committee has done, has been with integrity and to best service our members and to be open and to hear from them and make sure we're moving in accordance

with the players have asked for. I know that we do that every day and every week, and I don't really think it's our job to just prove that to everyone. They know it, we know it. That's where we'll stand. All right. Joe, Joe, the first thing he said is I think, I think.

I think. Jalen, you don't think. He just told you. No, you haven't. He said so. They said so. You're in the meeting with the board members. You need to be in the meeting with the players because you don't care about the players. You need the board members so that you can get to vote so you don't lose your job. You're proud of the process? How are you proud of the process? It's the same process that you're going to use that got the last NFL P-8 executive director that you had. He's gone under that process because y'all obviously messed up. So come on. And on top of that, you want to say, he said, he made the rules to the game.

He gave you the rules to the game up front. No, you didn't. You just said there's no transparency. He just said there's no, you can't find out. There's no transparency. Nobody knows who voted for what? And the worst was, it's not your job to prove that? It's 100% your job to prove that to the players you represent.

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A thousand and a seven. So, hey, listen, the NFLPA executive committee, hey, the people who actually make those decisions, Cam, you're one. My guy, you said you was going to make sure I was on the list, all right? On the list. The latest Campbell, he's the president. he said, hey, I'm here my guy. He said, listen, calm down, man.

It ain't, you know, it ain't there yet. We go get you in there. No, I'm not going to calm down. Okay, Austin Eccler. Also, talk to him. He's another vice president. Hollar at your boy. Please and thank you.

Because this, Debo, I'm going to lie. You are honestly speaking facts because this is my thing. They're keeping it like, like the ownership. They're keeping it like the way that the NFL runs their stuff. if it's for the players and you really for the players and you're like no no no no no the NFL is doing it how they should do it which is protecting the NFL that's what I'm saying we're not protecting our players here we're acting like no we're acting like there's a little boys club at the top though of the NFL PA that's not really all the guys that you're not that you're not that that's what I'm saying those dudes are not trying to keep it as open because if you're not doing what you're supposed to do sir then get somebody in there that does. The players don't feel as informed. Well, I think that we're doing it in our process.

Your process isn't good enough because the players don't know what the hell is going on. And you don't feel like they should because you know if they did, you wouldn't be in your position. So you're going to keep it just how it is. So you can let it go how it goes. I want it to be open. I want Debo's name since she'll be in there because end of the day, if there's bull stuff going on, you're trying to get it all out for the players. I'm just feeling like these dudes are getting so comfortable in their position and they're answering.

It's so matter of fact. And so like, what do you mean? You're talking. I brought it to the board. The board, we need to make sure that this is the NFL. Dude, they're saying the board members didn't even know. The board members didn't even know, didn't even vote. Dude, at the meeting this year at the Super Bowl, it was executive committee members that weren't even there.

How are you going to miss your own meeting for something you're running? What? They don't. I need... How does that work? Do you even know who Jalen is? No. But he's running.

He's actually damn there running this thing right now. Nobody knows who he is. The players don't know who it is. Nobody knows who he is. You know who voted him in? The executive committee. Why? I don't know.

Shit, neither do I. Because active players don't get them. the voter anymore. This affects all players. This also affects retired players. This affects you right now. You're in the retirement phase where you still are getting your health benefits, but you only get that for five years. Then that's taken away. Wait until you find out what that insurance costs. Oh, my God. To keep the one that they have, they'll say, hey, listen, we'll make it easy for you. You can just keep their insurance you got and we'll automatically just deduct it. because when you go to try and get paid for this stuff, dude,

when I say you have to go through a process, if it wasn't for the fact that I didn't have a regular 9 to 5, if you have a regular 9 to 5 job after you're done playing, you're not going to be able to get to your NFL pension, to your HRA, your health reimbursement account. You're not going to be able to get to it. They're only open during business hours. In the process of going through it and trying to figure it out,

you can't do it. I got lucky and I ended up getting hooked up with a guy after my fourth, fifth time calling. And he was like, yo, I'm going to take you to the steps. And he would sit there on it with me. To this day, he would sit there on the phone with me, going through the process of calling my insurance company, calling the doctor, getting all this other information that I would have no idea how to get, bro. I was on the phone for an hour and 45 minutes one time to get reimbursed $200. Oh, no.

And that's the game, bro. bruh, that's their business, bro. Make it as hard as possible for you. You get it. So a lot of guys don't even go for it, dude, because the process is so hard. And when you say, okay, I don't go for this 200. I don't go for this 100.

I don't do that. And you get that over 30, 40 times over the course of the year. Duh, you don't missed out on a few grand now. Yeah. And that's one player they're doing that way. And think of how many players still got that money sitting there. it's ridiculous. They made the process so hard to get back

that guys don't even know how to do it, and like I said, if I didn't get lucky and get in contact with the right person because everybody else, well, you got to call your HOA, you got to call this and then. You got to pull it from here.

I can shout out to it. Where the hell do I go for that? No, for sure. I get one thing, I ain't going to lie, my agent. I had, you know, Dwayne Starks, my agent, Drew, he called me. yesterday and was just checking up on me, making sure all of the stuff was good. So that's why I can shout out to Drew because he works with Drew Rosehouse, my old agent,

and they still hitting, checking up by once a year to the retired guy. So I got the call yesterday. So that was actually pretty dope. Yeah, do they know how to do the process, though? Yeah. Okay. You got a team that will be there and help you with that process. A lot of cats don't know it.

No, a thousand percent. Like me, dude, I didn't know it. Especially guys that's older than not. That's, that's, that's reliant, dude. No, for sure. It's out of control. Mm-hmm. That is, listen, you don't know what you don't know.

Dale and Maven, I do not know why he is even in there. Nobody knows of him. And here's a crazy thing. I went to one the year before when they got Lloyd. Same thing, press conference, dude. It was like, it was like somebody just doing like word salad, man. He just saying, same thing. here, but it was worse even then.

Nobody even knows who he is. You know when you don't have, you know when you're not standing on nothing that you really just trying to deflect. He's not saying that. He's trying to stand on holding his job. That's it. I'm saying, that's what I'm saying.

That is it. He's not doing nothing else, bro. Look here. James Harrison for NFLPA, executive director. And your hat got to be in there and they got to at least get you Do we know if you getting sent to the third party?

Nothing. They were supposed to have a meeting in March at the meeting this year at the Super Bowl. They don't even have a timeline anymore of that date. They don't even have the date no more. It's supposed to be March. They don't even know exact date. Because when they ask about people trying to come up. That's what I'm saying.

When they like, you got to be informed. It's super trash. You're talking about being informed and trying to make sure people are going to the meeting. You had this out of the Super Bowl. They didn't even show up to the own meeting. So how you go? Like, that doesn't make any sense. The guys that only, the 32 guys that have the vote plus the 14 or 11 committee

members, dude, I guarantee you it might have been seven or eight guys in there from that whole 40-something. I know a lot of people got stuff on their plates, but when we're talking about this stuff, if you do, you got to kind of pressfully bow out and we got to get somebody that can be. Who is the guy that end up getting that job? every year most of the time when they first start off. It's just one of the best players? Nope.

Who? Best players don't want it. It's too much work. So you get a guy that's like, you know what? I'll do it. And if they really care about it and they're the best player, then yeah, they'll do it and care about it. Or you're just going as because I'm the big name on the team and I should be there representing.

That's not who should be there. It should be the person that's actually there for the players. A dude that can't wait, that's trying to get his jump, that can't wait to be like, I'm invested. I want to see exactly what's going on in here. And, like, that's really interested in the process. Dude, this dude was in there before he was even vested, I believe. But you know what I'm saying? How are you on a NFLPA and you're not even vested into the program?

You are now one of the members that are supposed to be going out here, leading it and trying, what? Bylaws messed up on that too. It got to be. like it got to be they're not telling anybody to start saving up or nothing do it because it's going to be a lockout players listen save 30% all the way up until the lockout

because it's going to be another lockout the NFL wants to go and get this done as fast as possible you're trying to get it done as fast as possible because you want a deal that's for them they're not going to give us a good deal they're not going to give the players a great deal but they're not going to do that we had the opportunity and we let D. Smith

file it up. Mm-hmm. Period. Like, we need report cards on the NFLPA, bro. Oh, man, they would definitely not let them things get out. We need report cards on the NFLPA.

We got, we got, we got some Stiller news. Let's get over here, see what the Steelers talking about, brother. So we got Mike Flores. Ooh, he said people around the league are skeptical of Steelellan. Stillers love for Will Howard. Hmm.

They said the Steelers met with Alabama's Ty Simpson. What do you think of that statement? You think that's a correct statement? How do you view that, Joe? They got the right to be skeptical. I think Wilhowell needs a chance. We didn't draft him for no reason. Thank you.

Body, like, I don't care what everybody else says. We got him on our roster right now. We picked them. He's a stealer. I love the coach. I love the way that he was able to develop quarterbacks. So, man, I'm not in love with Ty Simpson or everybody else say that too. Like, quarterbacks, people fall in love.

And all of a sudden, he's one of the best quarterbacks ever. Get out of here. I don't want to hear it. We got Will Howard. We've seen what he could do in college in the collegiate level. He's on our squad. Let's use everything that we got to make everything around him better. Let's make it like Sam Darnelish, where he doesn't have to go out there and be

Patrick Mahomes. Not mess it up, do good, hit the players what they need to, and we run the ball well, have a solid defense, and Will's going to look better than I think advertised. People always want to jump around and do all of the quarterback stuff and say that shit. But for me, I'm staying with Will. I'm not going to abandon ship. I'm going to keep it right there. I actually do, I want to give him a shot.

If the sink, if it falls, it falls. We're going to be able to see what happens next year and be able to now. We've really got to go get a quarterback. Like, we know that's the position of need. We knew Aaron Rogers isn't going to be the fix. We know if we're going to have to find out if Will Howard is going to be the fix. Then if he's not, we're in the same boat, but we don't know until we don't know. So I'm like, we got Mason backing up, Rudolph.

I mean, Mason Rudolph backing him up. We still got Will Howard. You like Mason Rudolph as a backup? I mean, we can do something else. I mean, you know what you're going to get. You know what I'm saying? I'm not mad at me. Okay, that don't mean that I want that.

I mean, for sure, for sure. I'm just saying for right now, I'm just throwing out Will. I just said Mason because Mason is a good friend of mine. I played with him and I know what I was going to get solid. I think that's why they probably put him in before they even gave Will a chance because you just, because sister, you knew what you're going to get. But now new coaching staff, that was with Coach T. So now Will Howard, new coach, new vibe, give him a shot.

Give him some ops. Let him see what's up. Yeah, I'm all with you. I know a lot of people are saying, you know, the GM Omar Khan, he, you know, he has to do, he hasn't done nothing. Well, I can say with 100% certainty that he has had little control of what has came out of the top draft picks. So this year for me will definitely be a point where I believe the Steelers are going to go back to doing what they did before and not make the mistake of allowing a single individual to ultimately have the. the say of being able to, you know, pick a dude higher than the majority has ruled him. So I'm looking forward to seeing how he drafts this year.

Okay. And from this year on is where I'm going to, I'm going to judge, you know, Omar Khan. That's, that's just where I sit. Now, the will, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want, I want to get a chance. The reason I want will to get a chance is even looking at Ty, Ty Simpson's numbers, and it's not, I mean, Will's, will's, will's numbers were actually better. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't think we need to grab him if he's there.

They don't think he'll be there at, what is it, 21, 22, something like that, 20, whatever it may be. If Ty Simpson is there, you think we should get him? If the Steelers think that he's a franchise quarterback, I asked you. Me? No. I don't, I don't. That's where I'm at. No, I think we can get somebody that's nice for sure that's going to start on our squad. And like, we got T.J. Y at 32.

Like, there's good players there that we could get. Receivers. It's a stack receiver squad. You want to go get, actually, I don't think that we want to go here, but it's a cornerback fire at that position where you could lock it up with Joey Porter Jr. The best tackle, the best, you know what I'm saying? Something of the best of the best that you like. I don't think that we got to go trying to go reach and like, oh, no, the quarterback's, no.

I mean, he's not the one. If you think he's the guy, I don't. But if the team does, if they believe in them, whatever, but I'm like, no. Right now, we got too many holes, too many gaps. Quarterback is one of the main positions. But before the season started, I wasn't looking at Ty Simpson like, oh, if we could distillers got him, that'd be the one. No, I wasn't thinking basically any of these quarterbacks for real, really making me feel like we need to go up and get them.

Yeah. I ain't even lie, dude. I had to go back and look at Will Howard stuff, dude. His senior year, he was 73% completion. Man, had over 4,000 yards. He was almost 10 yards of catch, bro. Like, averaged almost 10 to catch. He had 35 touchdowns, 10 or so.

And we ain't get at a shot or a chance to even show what it could do. I don't know. That don't make sense to me. I don't care where you drafted him. You drafted him for a reason. At least put him out there and see what he could do. I know he was at Ohio State with them weapons

But get him some Even even before that When he was at What was that? It wasn't Kansas I don't know where he went before I think it was But he improved there

Each year Well for the last two years Of his career He improved there Without the weapons I mean the numbers weren't as great Because But I'm rocking a wheel

Once he got those weapons It did a whole lot better And another thing he's a big body, bro. Yes. He's not no little dude. Yeah, 6-2-208 on the books. That don't, you know, with Simpson, that don't feel good to me,

especially, you know, with some of the contact he may have to come into depending on how the line is doing that day, you know what I'm saying? And we want to play. And these quarterback, when we get them, we wanted to play for a long time. And the frailer, the smaller, I don't know how long. Well, Russell Wilson, we was in there for a minute, so let me not speak out of the term. but I like a big-framed quarterback. I'm Clayton Eckerd in 2022.

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