Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Deshaun Watson Calls Out Media AGAIN?! + Patrick Queen Stands With Joey Porter Jr

Episode Date: September 18, 2026

NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react to Deshaun Watson calling out the media, the latest on the ongoing contract dispute between Joey Porter Jr. and the Steelers, and much more! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE and use code DEEBOJOE and get $150 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Timeline:00:00 - Patrick Queen backs JPJ15:14 - Deshaun Watson calls out media again22:14  - Browns targeting Arch Manning29:01 - NFL bans Dae'Quan Wright & Zxavian Harris39:30 - Super Chats (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And, I mean, it don't bother us. Players, you know, like, that's the whole reason why you had, um, practice McQueen, they talked to Queen. And Queen, you know, Queen was like, yo, I'm witty, 100%. I'm on his side. Like, here, listen to what he said. Yeah. No, I haven't heard anything.

And I'm with Joey, whatever, whatever. He's no one, whether there's injury, whether there is, contract, whatever it is, I respect it. I'm behind him. 100% I tell him every single time I respect

how you go to watch your business every single day because I know you all see the stuff that he does out there

but he also is inside putting in the work when there's enemies where it's in the way room

whatever it is so I definitely respect yeah bro like this is this is what it is like

this is why it is like we're going to support each other because we're all in here together

like we see we got eyes we see what he doing we see how he plays we see what he means to this team. We see what the market is looking like to at this position. And we know what he's done. We know it's worth to our team, to our defense, to us as players

on this defense. Like, this is not something that we're going to go and like flip on. No, here, I'm supporting it 100%. Because this is the only option that you really have, right? As a player, this is the only way you can get any type of recourse to what you want to try and get accomplished, when your numbers aren't looking as they should or as you feel they should, especially when you're looking at a 33, like, come on, like 33, especially when you're looking at what it is, even if you go to, you know, the bottom of that Seahorn, like, what's his name? Jay Seahorn.

Yeah, horn, that's still 70 guaranteed on 100. 70. It's a 25 a year. It's a guarantee. Yeah. It's the guarantee. You're exactly right, Debo. And it's the old school of where, like, you can hear what, let's get into what Queen's saying.

Let me get back to that. Because a thousand percent, players, we, if we could have paid, if they could pay your dudes, he would pay them. We want, we know you, there's nothing we can do when the contracts. Every single year, that's agent taught. There's nothing that can happen. We want everybody to get paid as much as they possibly can. That's the business aspect of it. We know we control what we can control.

We know what we want them to be out there. So as far as the player goes, it's NFL, not for long. Joey Porter, Jr. has been doing what he had to do those first three years. And still, as far as the business, he's under contract for the Steelers, so they got to do what they got to do. But Joey Porter got to do what he got to do. So as far as as players understand, you got a short amount of time where you can hit

and you can be good to try to take care of your family. I heard when Nick Herbick was talking about it, he was like this, Oh, obviously, because I know what this contract did for me and my family. So at the day, this is football. Everybody, when we get in the locker room and we're talking to the coaches and we're in these meetings, we're trying, everybody's working their ass off to do what we can do and perform to the best level. But when we start talking about people's money and how much they're supposed to make and how they're going about their business of taking care of their family and what they feel like they're worth,

oh, that's none of my business. I want you to be on the team out here in the locker room. When you get here, you're going to get here and you're going to do exactly what you're doing. But for that, I'm not working. I have a contract that I'm playing for that I like that's guaranteed. And I got my stuff going on. And I may be in a whole different situation as you with, I don't care. I just know when you're in this locker room with us, you bring everything and you work hard and you do your job.

So do what you got to do. So that's where people on your team, it's never a rift. No. They're doing this. You can't get no rift out there, man. We understand the business. It was a point in time, I think. where you had some guys that were just foolish enough

to be like, man, he just needed me, ah, you know, nah, uh, that's like, that, no, that don't happen. Because tomorrow you can come into the locker room and your locker will be cleaned. Clean, gone. Because it's like, there's no love when it comes. Like, you can get cut.

I don't control your faith to be here. I want you to be as much as you can. I got to worry about me. I got to be on the team. I have to be making sure my job is secured so nobody comes and takes my son. So that's where it's always. He's doing the same thing, man.

Like, you know, shit, little busy 26 right now, bro, what are you talking about? It's 26, bro. Like, you're talking about as a corner, like, when you're 30 years old at corner, they're not playing this year. Now they tag him next year, and then you can,

and then you can turn around and tag him again. You're talking about this man can be playing on a one-year tag at 28, and then hoping they get a big deal at 29, huh? Because the whole protocol, how the contracts are set up and what is allowed through the NFLPA and the collective bargaining agreement.

This is crazy. Like, oh, you got a four-year contract. You need to play a four-year contract out. Yeah, okay, I understand what you're saying, but you don't use your body to play a game. You sit here at a desk. You can go and pull you and blow your ACL and still go to work. We can't.

Okay, I need to make sure I have that guaranteed paper, especially when I'm getting into the highlights of my year. And then through that end to the point of where, you know, all right, they're going to start trying to let you go and release you and get you up out of here. Because you're at that point. where they feel like the age is declining, your plate, again, enough to where,

that money's not worth it for us anymore. But they can ask for a pay cut, but you can't, you can't ask for a raise though. Like, come on. Yeah. That's just, that's, that's, that. And when you say no, what they do, Joe? Chop.

Gotcha. You're about it there, Joe. Chop suey. Chop suey. It's no recourse, buddy. Chop suey. So yes, do it. you got to do. But I'm telling you, man, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't think, uh, I don't think

this would go in as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, it did, deep. What it is. I don't know what it is. They want in the trade. I was hoping my man would have got the deal before the first, before the last hour before the first game started and everything would have been everything. Yeah, yeah. The 4-400, even, even, that's so less, but the guarantee money. This is the 70. We could have got 50 to 70 guaranteed, at least the first two.

Because when we look at like you said, Herbix 42, that's the first two, D.K. Medcaves, 60 is his first two. We can do it. We could, you could do the first two? So if it's 33 and that's the first two, you tell me that's trying to give you 16? Five? No, no, no, no. I'm just asking. I'm just saying.

You saying they couldn't even guarantee him the first two? You're thinking they was giving him 33 for one? I highly doubt. No, no, no. They probably gave him. It's probably 25. It might have been, hold up, 33. It might have been 29.

And then his four million this year. That sounds like it might have made sense. Like I said. But then that's still one year guarantee. They do it with who they want to do it with, I think is where to come down. That's what it is. Debo, that's what it is. And I think that's, they feel like the value of what he is as far as what he's done,

his body of work is not at the value of what it is they feel is worth more than that 33. You got T.J., you got D.K., you got, you know, and Herbert, you know. Other than that, I mean, and again, you still got a, like I said, with Herbock, they're like, oh, he's this, that, that, yeah, but the market for all. side guy now is is close to you know almost 45 50 and he's he's getting 25 so you know what I'm saying that's that's mid upper mid tier of of of more than you know average so especially you know I don't know right I don't know but me the brother we're going to we're going to see how it rose out but we are if if somebody don't step up

and be like, yo, we're willing to give whatever it is they want in the trade. And they're saying that the actual interest for trades for people actually willing to put up or other teams willing to put up, it's not a real big market out there for it. I don't know if I see, I got to check that. That was a rumor. I think that's, you know, that's a rumor. If somebody came in and said, hey, y'all, I want to get you a one plus a player, you think they would. wouldn't take that? No, they would. Okay. They're open. And it's been said that they're open to a trade. They just had not got. I think Schaffner reported that they had not got what they want, rumors, or what he said.

Well, they needed, well, Detroit, they need to go ahead and reevaluate what they need. Hey, listen. I don't know, but are they going to give up? And then do, do they want, like, if they want a one in a player? Depending on, like you said, there's 31 other teams. And who do you want to win at the house? It ain't nobody we won't. They, look what they just did. Who do we, who the, you right, you right.

And you know, like, if you give them little pieces, like, hey, that pick ain't going to be that top three to five. Yeah, so you're just trying to get them to, trying to send Pizzi to it. No, I'm just saying. I know. I'm saying that's how you get the good, that's how you get the good pick, though. Right.

That's how you get the good pick. You know, hey, I can send him over there and they go, he's going to do what he do, but it's still going to give me that three or five, three to five pick. I can take a chance on that. But they ain't even got no money over there. They can't, they're working with half of the income,

half of their, what you call, salary cap anyway. And now you send him over here to Detroit, they go do something with him, that's for sure. But that's going to lower your pick on your first. Because they ain't taking the two. Even though he was the two, they ain't going to take a two. They ain't going to take nothing close to it. This is not a conversation I was expecting them to be having.

Hell no. So that's why I don't know. That's why everything is up in the air. That's why it's business now, because we're going to see. because we're going to see what happens. We're going to see what the Steelers do. We're going to see what Joey Porter Jr. does. Because as far as like, we know, we said, is he practicing?

Is he not? Here, Mike McCarthy, what do you guys know? My brother. We're going to see. He's supposed to be out there today. And he's stretching. I hope. I don't, I do it.

I don't. Dude, I can't. Oh, man, you're in a bad position. If they, they ain't bluffing. And he ain't bluffing. and he do the only thing he can't do is just sit up and they do the only thing they can do and tag him to make it worse and then

well we're saying they got to tag him that's through this whole year though right it's still it's only week it's only week two that's what I'm saying you gotta look at the long game you think they plan the short game I understand that was a case they would have got they would have just took whatever they could have got I'm telling you Debo

it's starting to happen it's only been one week so he didn't play. And then it went from when they were saying it was conditioned. Okay, so you think he's going to play? I don't think he's going to play. I'm just saying that I'm interested in to watch how he doesn't end up playing. You know what I'm saying? Like finding out the way, is it because he starts his back and then they put him in

the IR? Is it because then he ends up saying, no, I don't want to be here. I'm trying to get traded or I'm going to still sit. There's plenty of different ways now how this could go. You're saying just go ahead, get healthy, and then, yo, I'm not playing, sit, take the fine. He's like, yo, get me out of here. I'm telling you all right now, I don't want to be here. You don't want me here.

So just I can understand that because now you're just, you're making a man stay that don't want to stay if you're tagging. Now you're being vindictive and you openly doing it. And it's not that he doesn't want to stay. He wants to get paid. And they're saying, no, I'm not going to pay. No question. But again, as I'm them, I'm sitting back like, yo, you sit here and you play. with me all year.

Like, and now you think I'm just going to let you go because you ask for a trade, no, I'm going to tag you and see what I can get. And if I can't get nothing, you're going to end up playing on this tag because you can't sit out two years. And you go, you go play up with all you got because if you don't, you ain't got a shot. But that's the part. Anytime that's, and that's why with the players, when you're on the field, if Joey Porter Jr. touches that field, he's going to ball

and he's going to go as hard as he possibly can, risking, injury, instantly. he's not going to ever go out there because you can't show yourself on tape going anywhere but full speed. There's no such thing. So that's why Joey Porter Jr. is so nervous about getting out there because he's like, no matter, I planned on being great. As soon as I touch the field, I'm working my ass off. But at the same time, next play, I could get something can happen to me. And then everybody's like, oh, no, we knew it was going. And you're like, you don't plan on that, but you don't plan on, you don't plan on.

And then when you are out there thinking about, you know, it's more about. You know it's more of a highly likelihood of you actually getting hurt because it's in your head. You're thinking about it. And that's not the way. That's not the way. That one time where I know when I was out there playing, bro, I'm like, yo, I can make this tackle. And something in my head is like, yo, get your ankle. Every time before I got hurt, bro, I swear.

Something was like, get your move this or move that. I'm like, no, I can still make the tackle and take that no. Boom, high ankle six weeks. Boom, high angle, another six-week. I'm like, no, I can make the tackle. And I'm pointing to the dude. I'm like, yo, I'm like, yo, he's coming right here. He's about to crack you.

He cracks him. I'm like, no, I can make the tackle. It feels like I get my leg out the way too. Nope. Bye. Like, you. But also, I was thirsty. I was hungry out there.

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Your boy Deshaun Watson was asked if he needs to have a big game to start the Brown's first home game over. This is what he had to say, bro. What he had to say? Return home goes really well. No, I think personally, I think all that is for the media. I mean, I think the media has this expectation that I'm supposed to throw 400 yards. five touchdowns every week. So until that happens, I guess it's going to be the same situation.

So again, my job is to make sure I'm operating well so we can try to get a win and keep moving forward from there. Hey, Joe, man, that man said they expect him to throw 400-yard five touchdowns, Joe, every week, man, every week, Joe. He can't be doing that every week, man. What, bro, what's your boy talking? Hey, Joe, last time he threw a 400-yard-five touchdown with 2,000. He was in Texas.

He had a perfect passenger rating, brother. Okay? Yeah. 2020 is when they went on head, and I think it was then he, I think that was where he had a game that was like 301 or something, like 301 yards like that, something like that. But that game he's talking about that he ain't got to go out there and have every year. That's why y'all gave him that $230 million guarantee, Joe.

hey, because of what he did and what was that in 20, because he didn't play in 22, I mean, 21, right? Yeah, 21. He was out 21. He was out 21. Okay.

So if you go back, I think it was, what was it? The whole time in Cleveland, playing for Cleveland. Yeah. Oh. What up? This he got paid.

Hold up, hold up, hold up, Debo, you're muted. Debo? Debo. There you go. There you go. All right, listen, Joe. Since the man got paid, brother.

Okay, and he doesn't got to Cleveland. What was that? 2012, right? Yep. Guess I mean, got it. Guess how many 300-yard games passes he doesn't have? Zero. Zero.

The man to lose no. He's talking about I got to go out here for 400 and da-da-da-da. Since he got, since he got there, brother, the man has an average of 178 yards a game. Only 20 games. Joe, 178 yards a game. Joe, Joe, what's your man talking about? I think the last time he, what was it? The last time he had over 200 yards was last week.

Oh, that's why he's feeling good. He had 205 yards last week. And then before that, I think it was 2024. The seven games he played then, he didn't have one game that was 200 yards and more. So he's feeling good right now. It's progress. That's what it is.

So now they feel like he got to go out there and have 400 yard 500 five touchdowns every game man like i just got to go out there and get 206 this week what's going on what's your boy talking about right here joe i your money go to his head this this this is this is this is what i'm saying i don't i don't i don't this doesn't make me feel good to say things like this about de sean watson and about the things that he says that are sound crazy or a little bit ridiculous. Like Deshaun Watson, when you say that the Cleveland media, and now I'm a part of the Cleveland media, and I don't like to be sitting there.

And my job is not to just sit there and bash. I don't want to do it. But you say things sometimes that are so wild that I'm like, why would you say that? Only thing, I'm a Browns fan. Only thing I want is competent quarterback play. I don't want 400 yards. I don't even need five touchdown. I just need 200-some, two tutties, no picks.

Just don't turn over the rock. Chill, solid. Don't get stripped sacked. Run my offense, make it look sweet. This right here. Hey, man, get off the chat, man. Chat over here, tripping, bro. What?

What? What? I ain't even saying nothing, man. I'm not saying that, bro. Hey, man, they're talking about Deshaun. I got more charges than yours, man. See, stop, bro. The thing is, though, it's the, it's, Deshaun, like, I understand.

We're talking about the football. If you're, you're, you have to be a great self-evaluator. And reading the room, I like with Jaden Daniels, he took credit. He took responsibility for something Stefan Diggs did when he ran out there and jumped on the thing and took the flag. He's like this, I'm the quarterback. I need to be able to go ahead. and say, do this, da-da-da-da.

You know why? Because that's your franchise quarterback, and you make $65 million a year, and you could be able to take it on the chin and be able to move on. Understand where you are. You're making $45 million a year for a franchise where you haven't thrown

for 300 yards ever. And then you've done, you sat out because a whole other bunch of, like things are happening with you, Deshaun, and we're actually now evaluating you on your football play. And it's not good. So you can be able to stand and be able to say

if you're not playing well, you need to play well. That exits the booze. Joe, it's good enough. The man is a starter. No, D-Bow. No, no, no, no, no. You know everything I'm saying is actually correct. Because I'm like, Deshaun, please, brother,

you're making the thing is, once you start making this type of brand because what you did in Houston, we just want to see continued, we're not even asking for that type of play. Because that type of play we haven't seen. We haven't seen you throw 400. We haven't seen you do the Houston type thing.

So we just need you to go out there and be productive for us. And it hasn't looked that good. So when you're making this type of money, you have to be able to read the room and be able to accept responsibility, know what's going on. And when you do play well, that will eliminate some of the booze. Hey, Joe. Yes. You know what I mean?

I got paid. Because he was bawling. When you average 300, when you average 300, y'all, three, I think 301, Joe. Yeah. And I think of 2020, that man averaged 301. And then he didn't play again in, in, in 2021. And y'all went over there and gave that man a $230 million guarantee. That's the only, only people would have did.

That is Cleveland. That's Cleveland things he do. Matter of fact, that's why they starting him. So according to, what is this, Jason La Cocan for, like, Wau, Wau, whatever. his name is, the Brown's owner, Jim Haslin, wants the Texas quarterback Archie Manning. So in a quote, he said he wants Archie Manning playing in that stadium. Haslam is a major Tennessee booster with strong ties to Peyton Manning. Hey, Joe, I know now why y'all over there playing that.

And it's the setup, Joe. Oh, this make perfect sense, bro. Y'all, now listen, and it's a report, listen. Now it's a report that's saying from the same Jason Kat that behind the scenes, Munkin had to yield to the ownership regarding starting Watson, because if you don't start him, I'm just saying, this ain't confirmed. This, of course, is, you know, I don't know.

It ain't said, ain't nobody agreed. And nobody said, this is what it is. There ain't nobody who came through the fruition. Monk and they said, yeah, they done, that made me do what I did. Ain't nobody said that, but, okay, in the streets. Joe, you know I keep my ear to me.

And I know you keep your ear close to the streets. Hey, hey. I know you keep. Joe, I keep my ear in the streets in for what the streets are saying, though. The streets are talking. It's real. No. What the street said?

Hey, listen. Now, don't, hey, don't get it. He's a huge booster. He probably already, you know, he's a huge booster over there. So he already, Archie probably already got something coming, you know what I'm saying? You know? And they close friends with Peyton and them. So now they probably go had a whole, you know, it might be a situation.

You know, Uncle would go have to get it. Eli go, you got to get that. You got his way. Look. But this is going to be a situation. where they're going to be like, hey, listen, it ain't going to be just me. Hey, we're bringing in the mannions now. Hey, we bring in.

Allegedly. I'm just saying, listen, I'm telling you this. I'm legidly. All this is. Allegedly. That's what we go. I'm saying what I think might happen. If it happens, then it goes like this.

I'm going to, if it's, if in this, I'm Haslam, I'm bringing in everybody. And I'm going to get rid of everybody. And I'm bringing in all the manis. I'm bringing in mayonnaise, the manis. I'm bringing in Archie. I'm bringing in. in, uh, Peyton. I'm bringing in Eli. I'm bringing in everybody. Listen.

I'm bringing Cooper. All of them. Listen. Listen. Listen. Bring the Cooper. You don't even know who Cooper is, do you? I don't even know who Cooper is. Cooper is? Cooper. Cooper was the coldest. Oh. Cooper was the coldest. You didn't know about Cooper, huh? No. Okay. I want to help the Cooper. Listen, you better check out Cooper Manning. He was the coldest now. Now look here, Joe. What you think? All right. This, this, this, first and foremost. What? If we bring in

the manning's, we, I believe that Jimmy Haslam, obviously, has his hand in everything that we got going on, because he's the owner of the team. He's more of a hands-on owner. He's more of a Jerry Jones type owner. And that's something that you can't tell a man how he's going to run his team. It may not be the best way, but that's the way that Mr. Haslam is doing it. And I can see. Now, he got his hand in the fishbow. He's making some choices.

So when you're talking about bringing in the mannings, I just would like him to bring in somebody that he would maybe listen to. If you think the mannings are going to be able to make some decisions, I think you got to put smart people in decisions that are smarter than you. I think that we need to have it to where Jim can. Well, they ain't coming. He's not the smartest man. Listen, you're talking about us bringing everybody in on Tennessee.

Go ahead. Bring them in the mannings. I hope that could turn to something like the way to John. John Lynch. It's out there doing it. or Elway in Denver, just getting some sort of control, somebody that's going to be a consistent face there

trying to help our team when bringing things together. Okay? I'm not mad at. I'm not mad at it. Joe. But this is what I am at. Archie ain't coming. If demandis ain't coming and you ain't giving them power.

They ain't about to be over there and be like, yes, they have say but no power. No. We have say and power. Matter of fact, we have more power than we got to. Well, we're going to have to figure that out. I would love that. Then at least we know where to point the finger to.

Then just keep saying the owner is making all the decisions. If we have somebody that we need to know, just making the decisions. In the same article, Joe, they said it's numerous league sources have indicated to me, talking to your boy, that the locker room is already over this stunt. Players on that roster are over this constant drama. There is no leadership coming from Watson at all at this point. Wow. That's what your boy Jason's talking about.

I ain't said. I just read it. I just look at it. I don't know. This ain't me. I'm just saying I'm just reading what's on paper, Joe. I mean, it's a quarterback of your team. Who is your?

My team. My team. Yeah. That's right. Quarterbacks are held to a higher standard. So when we say that the quarterback has to come in there, and for one, the way that Deshaun right now is even handling the media, it seems like he's being petty with the media.

Joe, listen. Joe, hold on. Let me hit one more. One NFL GM said Watson will keep playing like S. I. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. to see how fast they'll pull him.

He's calling their bluff. NFL GM said that. I ain't said that, Joe. NFL GM said that. It's in the article, Joe. It ain't me. I'm just reading what's on the paper. I ain't did nothing to nobody ever.

Except for maybe a couple of people I might have put to sleep. That's it, but they needed to go to sleep. They was tired. Joe, this sounds like the Browns Brown to me, Joe. Huh? Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

Okay. I can hear you, Debo. But everything you're saying is making sense. And when I don't have nothing, I can't argue with you. I mean, we just need. Hey, man. Y'all, Amanda took enough of a beating, man. Let's carry him on in the house, man.

Come on, man. Listen, Joe. The NFL has sent a memo to teams informing them that DeQuine right and What is that? Xavier Harris are ineligible to visit, try out, or sign with them during the 2026 NFL season. Wright and Harris were granted a temporary restraining order that allowed them to return to college football this season. But backlash from the conferences over their plans to sign with LSU ultimately ended that possibility. any sympathy over this right here for these guys, Joe?

No. Yeah. Yeah. How do you feel about this, Debo? Hell no. I don't feel sorry for you. You got to be out of your rabbit-ass mind. If you think you go go and go out there and try and go up against the,

basically you're trying to set precedent. Ain't nobody did this before. You're going up there with a case that ain't. nobody tried before. That's cause it precedent. And you want to be the first one to win it. It ain't no way. They ain't about to allow you to do that. You go go go up

there and they go say, hey, you go do, no, no, that ain't going to happen. Look here. When you're going up there and you go sue somebody for something like this, you got to get you some case law. And you got to make sure you get some case law over there where you got situations and circumstances where it's

something like you're in. And then you got to make sure that those case lost, they got like a 95% win rate. That's when you go and you sue the piss out of them, Joe. I ain't going to do you. Joe, I never had to suing people before. Hey, you got to do what you got to do when you got to do it. But it ain't never got to court. You know why they never got the court, Joe? Because I go and I go and make sure I do my research and they're going to settle before we get to court. Because if I get to court, Joe, I'm suing your 10-fold, Joe. I'm coming at you for everything. I'm going breach of contract, Joe. I'm

going for anything, man, misappropriation of funds. I'm going for intentional misrepresentation, fraudulent concealment of every, dude, I'm going for breach, anything, like, fiduciary duty, breach of fiduciary duty, you name it, Joe, I'm going for it all. Like, it don't matter. I'm going because you made me have a headache going through this shit. I'm sorry for that too. Unjust enrichment, you name it, man.

I'm going for anything that I can figure out that can go against what it is that we got going on with you and with you done, bro. Okay. Now, this right here, these boys out of their mind if they thought they were going to step in there and said president, and then thought you were going to go back to what, no, it's not happening, bro. Who are they trying to,

who are they trying to sue Debo? They tried to go ahead and get a case against the NCAA. They won that, but now you've got to deal with the conference. You're talking about you're going to force me to try and let you into a private. No, this they, this they thing. They can make the rules how they want to make it.

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Listen to stuff to blow your mind on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. It's gravy and good, especially when you go ahead and it's a club. It's not like, okay, well, we're doing a deal with this and that. And I didn't use the name, image, and likeness wrong. And I did this. And now I got to, yeah, I don't care about, now you got to pay. That's law.

Like, you don't, you didn't get something against the man. And this right here, you're going against, you're telling me, like, my private company got to let you smoke weed if I don't have an agreement to let you smoke weed just because it's legal. No. Yeah.

Huh. So that is, because I'm trying to, what is, they're trying to, read this for me one more time. They're trying to get back into the NFL now. They're trying to get back to the thing. Into the college. In to the conferences,

they went and said, we're not going to play, you guys. we're not going to do none of that. And Lane Kiffin was like, yeah, we're bringing them in. There's like, well, you can bring a man if you want to. We go, we go, we go ahead and get rid of, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. You can go do nothing over here in this conference because we're a private agency.

We don't have to do shit. Yeah. You can win this case law. But in this building, in this organization, like, they don't have to go by law what it is that you're all talking about. This is private. That's the same way you were saying this. stuff about if you're in the NFL and smoking is legal in that state. We don't care. It's not allowed here.

Right. Yeah. Now, if the police come to your house and they say, we smell weed, they can't do nothing about it because it's legal. Now, if the police come to your house and they say, we smell weed and you're in a state that ain't got legal weed, now they can do something about it. Yep. But when you go into that piss test or whatever it may be, you can't, that company says you can't smoke. I don't give a damn how legal it is.

Mm-hmm. That's it. That's your job. You can't, that federal law can't save your job when you already knew your contractual obligations of your job. What are you talking about? No, that's facts. You, when they, the people, whoever controls the goal makes the rules. Right. You are working for them. You are an employee. Yes. Yes. Yes. brother you ain't you ain't you ain't uh doing your own thing it's a whole union

behind that thing like if you're in college brother just stay as long as you can if you ain't what guy that you know is coming day one and don't let somebody gas you up into coming out man you know the guys and got gassed up into coming out and don't get nowhere at the end of it bro you your own man now now now Now you got a man up. Although you're a kid, you may be, you know, consider they, you know, you're not fully matured in the situation. But once you make a grown man decision, them streets, they don't, they don't forget.

That you're going to have your years in college to determine. You're going to have to mandatory do at least three. And then if you want to leave after that, you got to know. Right. You got a mandate of three. You go fire. So during that time, I'm like, once you find out after three, You get to figure out if you're going, what's my draft status looking like, ah, you're all right back, come right back after my fourth year.

Because once you take that jump, I mean, I feel it like you, it's, because in college, you still now, you're getting paid to play college ball. So when you make that jump to go to the league, yes. They're going to have to make a rule for me, Joe. You coming back. I'm trying to know. I'm trying to stay in college as low as I can. I ain't fighting no rule. I ain't fighting no rule to stay, but I'm going to stay as long as I can.

I ain't fight as long as I can. I ain't fighting no rule to stay but I'm gonna stay as long as I can't I'm gonna yeah depending on when you're getting drafted now depending on when you get to hell with the draft Joe if I ain't won you could go and get five

six seven eight what you think you would have got Joe but still look hey as if you're going top 10 I ain't talking about when you came out because y'all had that uncapped bull Right, but now look, now, now it's cut there. Them boys make about $7, $8 a year, the top hit.

You're going to stay in college for the $7.8 or you're going to come out? I'm going to the league. No. You're getting 7-8 at the college? I'm getting, I'm getting 7-8 in the league. 7-8 in the league, and then I'm going to go get 33 per because I'm the highest. I'm going to go get that. I understand what you're saying, Joe.

But look here, Joe. I'm telling you, Debo. You're saying only if you are one. That's what I'm saying. Okay, I could go with that. I got the mindset of a one. I could go with that. I could go with that.

But I'm telling you, they saying, hey, man, you are two. You are two at best. Oh, you two at best? No. I'm trying to go one. I'm going back. So if they not telling me how you go one,

if they don't tell me I can go one, D-bo, I'm with you on that. If I'm not one, they're paying me what over here, though. They paying me seven-eight over here already, five to three to five over here already, Joe. And you're telling me I ain't going no, The third, no, I got to go back. I got to go back. Because I already know what's going to happen.

I'm going to end up going in there and you go sign a three-year deal, which really is a five because they can tag you twice at best case scenario. Or you get drafted hired. You sign a four, which really is a six. Or you're hoping you do with Anthony. Or I'm coming in like Anthony Gonzalez. Boom. First round pick.

Hit them for about six a year. Then after my third season, I signed a five year. extend them for a four-year 132 with a hundred guaranteed. If you want to go do Witherspoon. That's Robert Kraft, though. That's Robert Kraft though. That's Robert Kraft.

Witherspoon. Witherspoon. Seahawks. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, listen. That's the way you plan. You plan the draft.

Between you trying to figure out if, damn, I'm going to have a career or I got to go out here and play on a one. Or am I going to end up? That's mess. up. I want, I was hoping that it would have been like that for Joey Porter Jr., but, you know, the league, some, it's Jackson Smith and Jigba. Boom, bad. You get drafted early, quick. Some people got to go about it other way. George Pickens. He didn't get his deal yet. He's a baller. He's still waiting to see. Are we going to get the bag? Am I really, am I off-field

problem? No, he hasn't got locked up. He don't do nothing. So it's like they can pick who they want to pay. And when they do get paid, everybody's like, okay, yeah, that's good. And the players that don't get paid, everybody's like, man, you better just go out there. You'd be lucky you're in the NFL. You better go take that franchise. You better go take that 20s like to take. I'm like, man, br-franchise for a reason.

Easily be gone. Yeah. So that's why I rock with them dudes and you get. All right, man. Let's get you. We got a couple of super chats here, man. We got to get a lot of here. We got, what is it?

Nico Bello Lick. What? What is that? Nico Bellolic? Bellick. $10. He said, Joe, he picked off Brady.

I got to know what was going on in your mind in that moment. The fact, you held on to it while getting sandwiched and coming down in bounds. That's one of my. favorite plays. What were you, where were you thinking, Joseph? All right. First things, first, I was thinking I was going to catch it and go back and try to score. So I won the high point. First things first. High point the ball. Listen, I'm telling you, and then I jump so high. When I jump,

boom, I felt myself get hit. So I'm like, okay, now my only goal is now to get two feet in. I'm not thinking about scoring them. Why high point is, I caught the ball. Boom, I feel bronc hit me. So I'm going down. I'm like this. toe tap just dead my legs, bent dead in my legs, and I'm just holding on to the ball like this. I fucking did it. That's a pick.

That's a pick. I know I'm in. So then I run to the side and go celebrate with my dogs in the end zone. Okay. That's what he was thinking. That's what I was thinking. Appreciate.

It says, Wolf is gold at $2. It says trade three firsts and get Baker Mayfield. That ain't worth. I mean, he ain't worth that. They just talking in the chat. They're just talking goofy over there in the chat, he just trying to...

Bro, who is this right here, man? Hey, man, what is y'all doing? The chat getting reckless, bro. Oh, Lord, see, the chat's savage. Bruh. Hey, look. CJ2K, that is not the real CJ2K. I hope not.

No, X1Z, $2. This man going to talk about cut DK, pay JPJ, his salad. D.K. Done nothing for us. Man, what's wrong? Like, y'all, y'all, listen. Look, look.

Can we just get along? No, look. When you start getting the dough, you have to make the plays. So all we are is the reporter news. And D.K. know that too. Snag the, snag the joints that's coming. Dig. Bink, hands catches.

30 per. So it's really, it's the bag. Like, you know, because only why you're getting 30 DK is because we know that you're capable. So we're not asking you to do nothing that we never seen you do before. You a man child out there. Snag it.

Man. We got one more that just popped in. Heco-sante, $2. It said, how sweet it felt to get that. And how sweet did it feel to get the interception, Joe? Look, this is the thing, Dibo. In real time when you're doing these things, it was another play. It was another play, Joe.

Not another play, Joe. It's another play, Joe. I understand what you're saying. No, this is what you do. Now, but no, now it's my favorite play. It was my favorite play. Now your body, you then gave up on you. And now you're looking at things you can never do again in your life.

Did you see that vertical when I maused, gronk, and Julian Edelman and picked all Tom Brady in front of all my dogs? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right now, you're very much. But watch it, watching on slow motion, Debo, watching all my dogs on the sideline, like, looking at the coaches' reactions, seeing what everybody doing, seeing where everybody was at.

Okay, yeah, they was rocking with it. Yep. Joe, we got games. Who do y'all play, Joseph? Hold up. We might have another super chat. You know who we played. Hold up.

What we got here, Wolf is gold at $2. Joe, can you shout out my grandma, Connie? Browns fans. She's a Browns fan, Joe. Shout out Grandma, Connie. Listen, this is crazy. We're going to get it together. No, y'all not go get it together.

Maybe not today. Wolf is going to go out yesterday. How old is your grandmother, man? Like, come on, man, listen. Grandma's fighting the good fight. Grandma is fighting, fighting, fighting, listen, we got to get her something to hope and have some hope for and cheer about.

Because it's grandma, bruh, and you don't want Grandma leaving this world without having something happy, happy. I know, I know. I know, I know, I know. You are killing her if you keep letting her be a Browns fan. You're out there browning. Y'all, you're going to kill this.

We got time. You understand that? Well, Grandma. Get her. Hey. Shout out, Grandma, Connie. Come on. I'm with you.

Come on from the Browns. Connie, get away from the Browns, please. Grandma Connie, listen, I'm going to just send you the highlights. I'm going to just send you the highlights. You just don't even. Next week, next week, just chill. I'm going to send you the highlights of the game. Just to keep you, you know what I'm saying.

Look, here, we got another one. We got Jim Girl 60. $10 appreciate you. Still a for life. Love the hat, Debo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Joe, continue to be you. Yes, thank you.

Hey, Joe, you told me, listen, I ain't recycling yet. I ain't recycled yet, Joe. You can't recycle yet, Joe. I'm just telling you right now, Joe, that's what I'm doing. I'm just saying that what I do. I'm losing track. We got another one. We got cool sports rhymes.

$5. Both of y'all would have, both of y'all would have looked nice in, no. No. And Saints black and gold. Saints, they tried. That was a lot. Black and gold? No.

No. Yeah. Saints tried to sign your boy, D.bo? No, I can't, I can't do it. I can't do that. That's turf every day, Joe. No, yeah. I was not, I was not walking.

Joe, look here, man. Sunday's games. Who y'all playing? Y'all going to, you know, we go into Tampa. We go on to Tampa. One o'clock Tampa. Y'all got the fucking ears. They upset.

They just got popped by Cincinnati over there. You know what I mean? And then the Patriots, they go on head. We go up to the Patriots to still meet us, me. I don't know if we. Us? I don't know who it is anymore. I don't, I'm just so confused when I talk to you.

But we go go up there and get us another dub, go on head, and see if he can't go on head and hit us in the face with two, three balls. Come out there. Oh, man. He confused. He confused what jerseys he said and all that. So we're going to go up there. I mean, probably, we ain't going to do him as,

I hope not we don't do him as bad as we did him last time. Because, you know, I actually like him a little bit because, you know, they helped me extend my career a little bit. So, I mean, just win, you know what I'm saying, and go from there. But I guess this is a good thing that they, you know, throwing picks and they get off of everything else over there, you know. We need to dog walk the Patriots. Yep.

Because first week, we had. We had a buy. We had a warm up. We had a warm up. We just talked about now, right now, we're playing a legitimate squad. Let's go out there and whoop they tails and have showed that we're going to be able to distillers. The Steelers.

We need to dog the Patriots. Oh, I thought you're talking about the Browns. You had me so lost. I was like, what? Whoa, whoa, whoa, see, Devo. No, no, no, no. I'm going with distillers. Right now we had a, we had to do.

We came out victorious versus the Falcons. Yeah. And now I'm saying we need to go out here and just let the Patriots know what type time we're on. Right. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm talking about. Yes. Still, it's a good belt.

Listen, bro, this is simple. This, like, it's nothing to it. Like, the only good thing for the Patriots is they got something else to talk about besides their head coach. You know what I'm saying? They worried about their quarterback now instead of the head coach. As all. Luis, let's just keep Drake Bay, MA, and make sure we don't make it. Don't let him get on it.

What you call me? Oh, Grandma's 64. years old. That ain't old. That ain't Grandma. It said 64 this year. Oh, yeah. She's a young grandma. Yeah. She's young. Hey.

But she ain't that young. Get her out of there because the Browns ain't going to do nothing in the next 30 years. You're a liar. You got time to switch over and get used to it. Grandma, by the time, by the time, black and gold. By the time Grandma turned 70, it's going to be a whole... He's out over here, Joe. I got some other ones over here, Joe.

That you go light. By the time, I'm my turn 70. I'm telling you. 70? Yeah. Minimum. I'm just saying, by that time, it's going to be a whole different vibe. What's the vibe going to be?

That's when they go, go ahead and get Archie and all the manis over there. Hosting, hosting the ship in the new stadium? In six years, they're posting who which ship? What time is it? They over there by the water. You're talking about the, just, they're moving away from the water, so you can. can't get a ship there. They're moving into the new town.

They're making a whole little thing. I'm going to get me an apartment over there so that I can celebrate. Right now, I sound crazy. Every one of y'all lost and every one of our wins. So I'm going to be celebrating 16, 17 weeks. We know you sound crazy, Joe, probably because you are crazy. Fibs high, man. New stadium, vibes high.

But this week, I'm telling Grandma, I'm going to send you the highlights. I hope, you know what I'm saying? We got out there versus 10. Let's go see what happens with Deshawn going to give us. I'm not asking for 400 and 5. How many yards you asked for 200, 206? No, no. Because I know he could do 206.

I know he could do 206. Can I say something? Is this crazy? Hey, man, somebody just said the Brown's going to be out of the league by then. See, that's crazy. You know, man. Listen, I'm just trying to tell you, Joe. Chat going crazy on Joe.

Yeah, they don't know what they're talking about. Man. It's all, good. Hey, they saying, listen, listen, man, Grandma shouldn't be a Browns fan. Like, come on, we got to help her. Shout out Granny. Like, yo, let's go. This is the chat talking about this, man.

Why don't you go on here and tell that man he need to go ahead and switch up, give her something to have some hope out for? Joe came over. Look what it did for him. Come on now, come on. Look here, man. I got you, Granny. I got you. We'll send her some black and gold clips.

That's it, man. I got you, Connie. I'm going to send you the highlights. We're going to get this moving, though, man. Look here, man, we want to thank y'all for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe and download where you get your show. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, subscribe, subscribe. We'll see y'all here Monday to talk about the Browns and how we went down.

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