Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Eagles Reluctant To Pay Jalen Carter + Deebo's HILARIOUS Bill Cowher Story

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react to reports that the Philadelphia Eagles are reluctant to give Jalen Carter a massive extension, Todd Bowles saying the 2025 Tampa Bay Buccaneers took plays off, and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline:00:00 - Eagles reluctant to pay Jalen Carter08:54 - 2025 Bucs took plays off?23:47 - Super Chats (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So listen to Point Game on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Eagles, man, are reluctant to pay. Jalen Carter. Aberbrear says the Eagles are hesitant to pay Carter and that the team wants to see a bit more from him from a character perspective. If Carter won't give them that. If Carter won't give them that flexibility now, maybe he'll just wait another year, which would make this a little like George Picking situation in Dallas, where the team might want to see a little more from a player just from a character perspective

before committing long-term Breer wrote. Of course, Carter was involved in a high-profile incident where he spit on your guy, got ejected six seconds into the opener. Hey man, what do you, what do you think? You think they got a legit reason or they just trying to lower the ticket? Load the ticket. You know, I try to deba. The NFL, they're going to try to find any reason not to pay you that bag.

You know what I'm saying? So anything personal, anything like anything that wasn't really that serious when it was going on, they're going to try to find out reasons to not give you that max contracts. So like that with teams, and if they do have anything with questionable characters, they're going to just start putting stuff out there and making you look like you need to take less. So, I mean, you know how it is. They got your rights. They kind of got you by the balls.

You can't really do nothing. So that's why I always try to say, just try to stay out the way as much as you possibly can because they're trying to find reasons the entire. time not to pay you. Once you get, once you're out there bawling you under contract, it's all good. But soon you start getting into negotiations. Every little thing is a big thing. Now it's, oh, oh, no, hold up, man. Like you was, and they can do that because they have rights, they have your rights. They can franchise tag you. They can do certain things. So once it's time to negotiate, all of a sudden stuff starts coming out. So just trying to stay out of the way as long as possible.

So I think that's what they're doing. It's just, you know, if something, they, and then you've seen it. Do you see them, did a little spit? Whatever. whatever something like anything that was that was a real spit that was a real spit that's not a little spit but yeah anything that they've seen you do

can be used against you in the court of law and the court of contract back bruh hey listen I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to go with

I'm gonna have to go with them on this man like I'm sitting back and I'm I'm the you know I'm the owner I'm a hundred percent with them. This is not a talent issue.

That was that. He has talent. This is a maturity issue. You can't scare nobody. Like, you, you can't do that, dude. Just a few months ago, you,

like, you want, what is it? They're looking at something 30, 30 plus a year, possibly guaranteeing, what, probably at least 60,

70% of that on guarantee. And now we know that you have a issue and you already so that you couldn't control yourself on something that was not even

uncontrollable. Like, I can't have you tossed out of a game for multiple weeks because you decided to spit on somebody else or you did something slick and sly in the trenches. Like, I can't allow that. And you're playing on the

front line, bro. You know how much bullshit going on the front line where you can't react to it? It ain't like getting spit on or nothing like that, but it's a little knick stuff here and there, and because you're not the first one to take you off. Oh, you're going to be the one to get trying to get reacting

to what they did. So, you got to keep a cool head, and you already showed me that you couldn't do that in a situation where you should not even get hot. So, and then when you look at it, they're saying it's, you know, other instances that, you know, that aren't publicly known that, you know,

that they know of, that. So, yeah, Yes, 100%. And like he said, with the Pickens thing, dude, if Pickens didn't have any character issue or anything, man, he would have been paid. He would have been, he would have been paid, bro. He would have still been in Pittsburgh,

honestly, like paid. But when it come down to it, they're like, yo, we know, we heard what it is. You came here. Yes, you did good. And for the most part, we didn't have really any real issues. but as they said coming out at the end of the year,

it was this, it was that, da, da, okay, how easy is it for you to go ahead and act right for a year? I didn't know what I'm saying? But when they sign that deal, it ain't going to be a year deal. That's going to be about a five, four, four years.

They signed that long term, right. You're looking at four or five years. You know what I'm saying? So let me see what you can do on this franchise. I mean, that's how I would have. to play it because I can't I can't just give you that much money and know that I already had an issue beforehand and then go give you the money and be sitting there looking like a mule chewing glue because now you did exactly what we knew you would do and could do the NFL man they're not

once you start getting into like when you and then you see people that get into get these contracts and it doesn't quite work out NFL's not playing they want to have a reason where they just no check all boxes you know what I'm saying you stay out of the way you're not really doing too much and then even say when they say that they know things about jailing they they're keeping on the wraps when you have players on your team and you're not going to be giving the dirt out while you're coaching because you know they're on your squad a lot of things on teams are just swept under the world you we don't know what's going on in that locker room so we just seen them we know we saw we know we saw him spit on the player that's not acceptable and then we don't know how

moving around in the facility, we don't know. So when the team starts saying little stuff, this is because now it's contract time. You're trying to get the bag. People seeing this on TV, what you did. Now, we've been on the inside, just making sure everything's good because you are on our team, you're a great player. But now you're talking about you trying to get this bag. You're wilding sometimes over here. So let me just throw that out there to these people. Let them know, hold up, hold up. He's trying to get that bag. But I don't know if the attitude is kind of matching up with it. So it's just, that's why I always say, stay out the way. because when it's time to get paid, all of that matters.

All of that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, bro. Like, I don't know. Br, I don't think they understand. That's like when you hear something and you hear a story and it gets out, oh, it was, so-and-so did this or said that and da-da-da-da-da-da. And you know the person.

You know the situation. You understand. And in your head, they're like, well, this has never happened before. And you're like, shit, that motherfucker's been doing that for the last three or four years. Y'all just ain't heard about. Maybe I say none. You know what I'm saying? Nobody's saying that.

Yes. Because at this, you're exactly right. Performance and all that stuff is good. Yes. When you're under contract, everything's cool. Once you start talking about, I need a new contract,

everything's not cool. Everything's not cool. Anything that could be an issue that could separate you from being on the field 100% of the time or being available 100% of the time is going to be. It's especially things that aren't injury or, you know, health-related. Like, you're talking about something that you did that is outside of actual game situation play. It wasn't like, oh, it was a hit that was questionable and you got suspended for that.

No, you went to spit on somebody, bro. Oh, yeah, we can't, we can't, we can't hear that. And like you said, too, when you were bringing up like George, I love, love Pickens. And like you said, if he was just handling all of the off-the-field stuff, when he was in there just with any of that, he would have been paid handsomely because it's not about what he could do on the field. It's like, hold on, can I trust?

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But when you start trying to negotiate again, that's where they can really be like, ah, hold up, I don't know what it is, more short term, more you got to prove it. You can show me why we can be able to give you that. Yeah, definitely, definitely do. Todd Bowes, Todd Bowes suggested 2,025 Buccaneers took place all. He said, if we can prepare and we can execute and we don't look at the names on the people's helmets and we can play the same every week and learn how to finish off games and close games out instead of getting the lead and just taking plays off or not having the lead and having to come back late, you just want to play four quarters and you want to get out there. you just want to play four quarters and you want to get out there. And I think we have these types of alpha dogs

on our team right now that will make this team that will make this team to elevate to that. When you start coaching, when you start coaching themselves, when they start coaching themselves and don't need too much coaching on the sideline,

that's when you know you've arrived. Joe, you got guys taking off place? I mean that that that that that can't happen at all. What that I think that's a You ain't never had nobody taking off flag I mean I mean not not not me Not me

I ain't saying you Joe I don't know I don't know I'm just asking Joe You ain't never seen nobody to take off a place I have another main it's mainly probably just I ain't asking for a name Joe Yes yes I have Yes I have

Exhaustion Tudeness and you need to just get out the game. Sub, sub out. It's okay. If you can't go, your 60% is not,

your backup's 100%. Get out of the game. Take a breather. Take a blow, win. Because we need somebody and go full speed. That's it. Like, go in the right spot,

full speed. If you just sitting in there standing up, getting high, getting blown on, you're not helping nobody. So my whole thing is if you're, if you, it's a fatigue

makes a coward out of everybody. So if you just, you got to be able to get out, get a bloat. No, I'm fighting through. You're hurting us. You're not helping us. You being out there is hurting the team. So I'm saying the effort thing when you're just like lagging, not giving effort, that's just, that's not okay at all.

But I'm saying if it's an effort, if you're tired, tap yourself out. If you're giving up on the, if you're just giving up, then that's a, that's a, loafs are not okay. Like, what are we talking about? You got to get to the ball. That's a coaching thing. You can't have people. You can't let that be accepted.

That starts in practice. That starts in pursuit drill. You think you're not just pursuing after the ball during. He didn't start that in the game. That was happening in practice. You were letting that thing slide. So what you need? Well, you got to realize everybody don't practice that.

I don't want to hear none of that. If your team's not good, everybody needs to be getting to the rock. There's a level of where, man, bump that. If you got to, you know what it is. Get to the rock. You got a burst. Give me a burst. Give me something.

I don't give them how old you are. Like, you're gonna be practicing or you're not. That was hard, though. I ain't gonna lie to you. That one's hard. Man, hell no. You practice a certain time. I know, I've known players, I've known players that are at our Hall of Fame status

players. And they don't, they don't go like that in practice. You know what I'm saying? And I've known guys that go and practice so hard, but they can't elevate from that practice level in the game. So then you start seeing them in practice and the coach may end up giving them a chance. Yo, let me put you over here and give you a chance.

And then they get in the game. And you know, most people, they elevate from practice into the game. It's no elevation. They practice speed is their game speed. So, you know, it's a little disappointing. I, like you, I'm like, I'm trying to go as hard as I'm trying to get.

So when you, or when, When I think about it, I think athletes in team sports, like, if they take it all plays, it's a combination of things. And I think the number one thing is what you said is they're tired. Like, you know, you're tired and then your ego will not let you lead a game. Fatigue makes cowards of all of us, okay? And you start processing stuff slower because you're tired, you're making decisions. decisions that you wouldn't normally make. Your judgment is all messed up, you know.

And especially now, dude, like, it's extremely rare to have a guy or a whole group of guys that play 100% of the snaps at every position, you know, and you aren't either, you know, sub in or out at some point. It's two positions. You got DBs and you got linemen, offensive alignment. Offense alignment and DBs, I think, are the only two positions that don't, that that that don't sub out. Well,

and the quarterback, obviously. But the receivers, rotating. Your linebacker, sometimes with packages may rotate. Your D-line,

obviously, you keep them rotating. Dude, when I first started playing, and I, well, when I first started playing, period,

like, it was no rotation. Like, the starting linebackers, that's who do is that they, them boys played the whole game. Like,

that's, that's just what happened. It was no subbing. You didn't, you know, you came in to, training camp, you came in condition and ready to go, dude.

You know, hell, from 2007 when I first started to 2009 or 10, bro, I played damn near every snout. And I did punt and kickoff. The ones that go straight to defense, dude, you had to come in there in shape, dude. It was no rotation. Like, that's not something that happened, you know what I'm saying? And again, like you said, it's the ego. you got a guy that he believed, you know, maybe his 80% is better than the guy behind him 100%. But when you start getting into, you know, you're at the 70 and the 60%.

You're not holding your gap. You know what I'm not? That's ego talking to you, man. That's ego talking to you. It's no way that you can believe that you can sit there and do your job better than the guy behind you at 100% can do it. What you're doing at 60 or 70%. That's, you know, that's just ego. And you're going to. Because it's not, I don't think they're taking plays off.

It's just you can't get there. Oh, now, I will say, now, you do have some guys that take plays off. Like, real talk. Like, let's say. Like, what happened? Like, when you get guys that are, like, pursuing the ball, like, dude is pursuing the ball, okay? And he's not going to. Yeah, yeah.

He gets a low-stop go to stop go because he's thinking somebody's going to make the tackle. But nobody makes the tackle. And if he didn't get a stop-go, stop-go, stop-go. and gave 100% he could have saved that tackle. He could have saved that, you know, that touchdown. Or you got a guy that's doing a stop goal like, oh, he's about to get tackle, but he don't get tackle. And if he gave 100% and just kept going,

he could have been the person that made that block to help that dude get a touchdown. Are we going to be? Loafs and take a place off. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Loafs. For sure. That's that change of speed.

I'm like, what you're doing is one speed. You're going to get there. You just, oh, oh, you like when you coaches see that change of speed, you get there. You could have been going that fast the whole got that time. Get there. Right. If you went that fast the whole time, you would have got there.

You could have saved every inch count, every yard count. You could have saved three, four, five yards, whatever that may be when the process come down to it. So I understand, you know, I understand what you're saying and the concept of it. But also, you are the head coach. You dictate and you make that acceptable or unacceptable by how you practice. by how you practice. And if it's somebody that you know

that you're not seen in the game as a head coach and you're like, yo, he's loafing. Like he's loafing. Like, yo, you can't, you don't get the, the practice of, oh, I understand that you go do this different in practice. No, you don't get that. You can't be a guy that got any loaf in you

or had any loaves in a game and be the guy at practice that's saying, oh, yeah, I'm right there. I know. Debo, because you know, too. It's about coming in that's coming in the day, the meeting after the game, that I in the sky don't lie. When you're getting that, when you got a coach that's holding you accountable of loaves,

of you was the one that could have got there to this play. And being embarrassed in front of your friends, in front of your teammates is one of the most scariest things that I could be. Because you want to, you talk all this good stuff. You're talking all this nice. You're supposed to beat the ball and all that right here. Boom. You see you.

changing speed, you could have got there and made the play, and you didn't do it. You know how many coaches don't call that out. I know because they, they, that's, that's, that's crazy to me. Everybody, the only way you can get full buy-in is if your best players are, boop, held accountable. Oh my good, they're doing it. And if you can call out the top best player that's making the bread, everybody else can call in line. If you call off the top players, you ain't even got a call out the bottom because they go jump in one.

Because I'm becoming that joint. I'm scared because I know at the. end of the day, I know I'm making this check, and I got to go out here and ball the fuck out because I know I'm nice, and this is what I do. So if coach can call me out anytime and it's being able to be accountable, you're not going to do everything perfect. When you do mess up, you take that on the chin. That's me.

Boom. All right. It won't happen again. And you don't make the same mistake twice, ever. That's why. The beast is real best. That boy would call out anybody, man. Who we?

In the meeting, in the team meeting. What? Bill Cowher. Oh, my God. dude, he would call out anybody in the team. That means you love that. Because special team, anything, that means you love it. And your teammates.

And again, something else. We watch special teams. As a team, as a unit. As a unit. Whole unit. Everybody. Like team breakdown. Man.

That's going to have your special team. They want to show the team. They deserve. They just keep. Everybody, yeah. Good work. You want your special teams, though. They want that, they want that love from the squad.

Show me, I'm on the team too. You know, I'm like, crashing. now. I'm like, you sitting in there sweating. Hey, bro, you ain't missed no. The boss is in the game. Yeah, I kind of, I kind of did. I kind of let it loose and, you know,

like, you're sitting in there like, damn, I know it's about that. Hair come, hair call, here. Hey. Yeah, here come, here come. Did he see it? Is it? Hell you, they saw it.

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I messed up. God damn. Hey. Keep messing up. I'm like, dang. The back and forward was if he thought you was not accelerating into the wedge. Oh, that's when they had the three to four man wedge. You're shutting down.

You bet not going to that wedge and make like you slowing down. When you see the wedge, you bet to accelerate as fast as you can. And drop. and blow through whoever it is you go here. If you come in there and you go to slowing down, he will rewind that thing. What are you doing? Are you accelerating or decelerating?

20 times. DeClever. DeCore. What is this? What is this? He doesn't want it. He doesn't want it. Spit lying.

Come on. Yes. That's going to get you. Cats just in there like, oh my God. Got it. You got to. You got to. Put that thing up on that tape and your boys will be running around full speed. Yeah, bro.

I ain't going to lie, bro. We had times where, like, I'm like, bro, like, I missed the total whole block of all that, bro. And you have some cats that try to head it off. Hey, coach, you know, they go to him before. Oh, let's see. Yeah, don't do that. Yeah. Hey, we go, don't worry about it.

We don't get to it. Don't worry about it. It happens to everyone. It happens to everyone. They're trying to pre-explain. No, no, no, don't worry about it. I'm saying we're going to talk about it on the big board. Yeah.

I had one one time where I was just nervous as hell, bro. So we had like a right return, right? I think I'm about to told you this before. So we had a right return. So as we go and we start running, so it's a right to turn, right? So you're turning this way. So as we do the return, right? turn and that's when we would circle back and you could crack block you know what I'm saying so I

circle back and as I circled back I turned around and I'm thinking right so I'm turned the other way now so my right it's here's here okay I start going the other way right so he see it on film and he's like silverback what is this what is this what is this what are you doing here do you know it's a right return I say yeah Yeah, coach. I said, listen, this is what happened. I said, I knew it was the right to turn. I said, but when I turned around, my right was still on my right.

So I went right. He just started laughing. Hey. Okay, okay, okay, okay. You get you, you get you, that's a good one. You get that one, one time. And it's a great one, though. It's a great one.

I had another one, though. It was, I think, I think we is, like, Cincinnati. And, like, he's doing the team meeting, and, you know, he's like, hey, you know, make sure you guys, you know, do whatever, whatever. And if something happens, you know, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, hey, sometimes shit happens. You just got to keep going, right?

So we in the game, and I don't got a holding penalty, bro. It's on one of the return. So I'm coming off the field. He's like, sell her back. Silver back. I'm ignoring. He's like, I know you hear me. So he said, again, I turn to him.

He's like, what are you doing? Why are you holding? I said, coach. What happens? Bussie go, yeah, you did say that. For real, bro, you ain't got no excuse for me. Right, yeah. Yeah, bro.

Yeah, for sure. But Bill Cowher was, yeah. Bill Cowher, he wasn't playing games, bro. Like, he was calling you out in front of everybody. He didn't give a damn who you was. Them the type of coaches that I love. Them the type of coach is going to get the team better. For sure.

Hey, man, we go hit these couple chats. You got a hard hour. Yes, I got you. I got you. We got, what is that? Chin? $43. $4.3.

$5. Say what up, Bibo and Joe. Big fan here. Thank you very much. I was wondering what your favorite workout was. I also, I hope I can help you keep these. lights on this month. Yeah.

Yeah. Thank you. I'm trying to. I appreciate you, appreciate you. What's your favorite? Like I said. What's your favorite workout?

Yeah. Me? Man. So if I don't have like a favorite like workout itself, but if I'm talking about body part, then it used to be my legs. I used to love doing legs. When I could squat the whole real weight.

lift the talk right there. Yeah, yeah. You know, everybody in a bench. Debo with them real lifting. Yeah, but my back, my back, my back got a little janky on me, you know what I'm saying? Had those couple back surgeries, but I still lifted heavy then. But since I've been done playing, you know, and I try not to go above, like, maybe like four or five squatting or whatever.

And then I may, I may cling a little heavier, like on track bar, maybe like $4.95 or something like that. But that's, that's about it. So me, I'm going to buy as a try. Favorite now? Bizer tries. I ain't go lie. Favorite now is probably a core.

Okay. I like, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I'm too 50, but I look like, you know what I say? I look like I'm victim weight because then, you know, them abs. Wow. You feel me? I feel it.

You eating good too? Yeah. Eat, eat real good. You know what I'm saying? Eating real good working out with it. But then again, Joe, you know what I'm saying? I like them buys and tries, man. You know what I'm saying?

I like everything. You know what I'm going to have to lie to. I got, I got guns tomorrow. It's a showdown tomorrow. It's a gun for tomorrow. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to go ahead and see these, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to go ahead and put them out there putting the work, you know what I'm

don't want to hurt nobody with these guns. Hey, I ain't going to lie. What you got over there, Josh's 12, but you keep him. By 16, 5s. So, huh? You said your thighs, 16, 5. You said your thighs 16. I didn't even measure.

I don't even measure. I ain't measure it later. I'm just telling you, like, you got 12s, but you keep them clean, Joe. Keep them cleanly. Man, all right. I'm a measure. I'll part shit.

I probably, I probably, all right. 15, at least. 15. I get you, I get, damn, Joe, I do you, I get 15. It's 16. All right, I'm a show me. Probably 16.5s for real. No, Joe.

I get you 14.3. Well, how much you weigh? 184 pounds. Yeah, Joe, I ain't really much. I think my son's ours might be bigger than your. I'm not going to lie, Joe. I'm talking about the youngest. I know my oldest is.

I'm just talking about the little one. You know what I'm saying? The one that's only 180. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying. Look here, man. Covenant life back. $5.

Appreciate your covenant. she said, Joe, you're going to go, you, Joe, you going up against Debo on a tug of war challenge. What three NFL players are you having on your team? And Debo, what three players are you having on your team? You go first. I'm going to let you get who you want. Trent Williams and Miles. Trent Williams, Miles.

Be one more. And. And. Trent Williams, Miles, and Cam. Yeah. Cam. Okay. Do they have to be current players?

No, they don't. They just have to be a player. Because we're not. Because we're not. So I'm going, Larry Allen, it's over with right there. Yeah. You got it.

Casey Hampton. Oh, man. Okay, y'all won. Y'all won? Y'all one. That's fine. Aaron Donovan. That's fine.

Boom. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. Yo, we're whipping the dogs. Get out, y'all. Yeah. I think it might be way more weight.

Harry Allen on the back end anchor in that. What is you talking about? That man, bitch, 800 pounds. He squat a thousand. You got more anchor. It's all good. I want young bucks. Yeah, you do that.

To be mokey. Y'all took a wood. weren't at the family reunion, Joe? No, I'm still healing. I'm still not doing too much athletics at you. You know, I'm still chilling. That junkie-ass hip still ain't here, huh? Nah.

Yeah. Hey, hey. Look here, baby. We got to get up out of here, man. Joseph's got to get moving, man. We want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show. Joe.

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