Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Johnny Manziel to Make Boxing Debut, Terrell Owens SLAMS Jerry Jones

Episode Date: May 8, 2026

NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react to the announcement Johnny Manziel will make hos boxing debut, Terrell Owens roppilg Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, and much more!   Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline:00:00 - Johnny Manziel to make boxing debut06:06 - Terrell Owens rips Jerry Jones27:52 - Super Chats (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Another one. We got this right here. Yes, sir. I say Johnny Manzel, go fight you. That dude, Bob, what's it? What is it? Minerry to do. Yeah, man, I try to call him.

Who you tried to call, Johnny? I tried to hit him out. Hey, I tried to hit him Bob. I tried to hit him Bob. I didn't see it. I think it might be too early. I think Johnny in LA, so it might be a little. I think he and I think they both over there over there too.

I ain't get I ain't get no response back. So, Joe, who you got? Johnny, who you got? Why? Why? Because. Because what? Because I don't think, I don't think other.

What's my man named? He's fire? Bob, what is it? Minnery. Mennery. Yeah, Bob Minnery. I think Johnny got him. I don't know Bob too well.

I met him. I met him before. Have you seen how? Yeah, I just want to want him to know how big is. He's not big. He's not big. Johnny's bigger than Bob. What do you call not big?

Definitely, in your perspective, Debo, the most victim weight that you've seen. Oh, he's victim weight. He's probably, I don't know. He might be right at it. He's not like one. Because he's not that tall. He's probably one. I take eight.

Like, yeah, definitely not. I don't think he's over 200 pounds. He's not over 200 pounds. And I think Johnny's over. Well, I know, according to last time, you know, Mansell, they say he was like, like, 205 to 10. And, you know, he just shy six foot. So if, if buddy, you're saying he ain't even, he ain't above victory. No, I think he.

And you're saying he ain't that tall either? He taller than he, too? So you said Johnny taller. Johnny taller and I think a little, and more. heavy. Yes. I'm like, okay, boom, because I've seen him and I've seen him before. And he wasn't, he's not big. Johnny's bigger.

So, yeah, he not. Johnny looks smart. Well, that's football players compared to just regular, my man, he's regular, regular size. Not football size. Yeah, I think Johnny going to take the W on this one, coach. I want to, I need that. I need, I'm getting them on the line for sure. So I'll do it.

Dude, the crazy thing is, they ain't even got beef. They're just going to do it. No, bro, whole time they like each other. Homies. You know, what they're making, they got to be making. That's got to be real competition. They got to be. They got to be.

I'm going to get the inside school, but I know John, you're not taking no free fall. They're going in there really awesome. I think I can beat you. You're going to have to see me. They said, he said something about four-ounce gloves or something. And I thought, I thought they used, six or eight or something.

Man, look, when you doing these type of battles, you could pick whatever you want. They go bare knuckle. No, you ain't nobody's one of those bare knuckle, man. You know what that feel like when you get, you get that knuckle fleshed up against your tooth. I'm just saying this. Do you see when Kimball sliced with a burr-knuckle fight and he knocked that boy eye out of his head? That was scary.

That was scary. But people did, I'm not, I'm not saying me. I'm not saying nothing, but I'm saying you can put, they could do four-round, six-ounce, eight-ounce, they just could, whatever they want to do. This isn't professional boxing. This is an exhibition. Yeah, and he ain't no athlete either, man. He can't, I don't see him.

My research. Look, you never know. He might have did some jingis-su, might have did some kickboxing. You don't never know somebody's, never know somebody's pass. I don't see it. I see him doing golfing stuff all the time. I don't see nothing about. He definitely golfing.

That's what I met him. Physical comedy. bad sport. Yeah, I think, I think, yeah, I might have to go with you. I think I think Johnny might put them hands on him. Show. I think Johnny might put them hands on him.

I was trying. Yeah. Thank you. You was trying to go against me. I was trying. I was trying. I was like, yeah, Johnny. Why? Because he's bigger. And he's an athlete. I ain't realized. I ain't realized he was above lifting weight. You was, if he was a little lower on that chart. Johnny's an, and John are an athlete.

Johnny, who, golf, everything. Right, that's something else to. He can do a little bit of everything. I ain't seen Bob do nothing but swing a golf club. Like, that's it. Yeah. I like Johnny. Yeah, I guess I got a like Johnny, too, man.

Thank you. Even though, you know, I try and stay with anything Cleveland, you know what I'm saying. Because there's weight classes. That's why. That's why we got you over. That's what we got you over, Ocho. I'm just, you know, for show, for show. What are you talking about?

We got to get that. We got to get that going. Ocho, I don't want that, man. He don't want that, man. I don't want that point. I told you, I don't, I don't change a little bit. I don't want that form. I could tell, bro.

I think, I don't think. Since you ain't got on the pod now, you don't start again. Wow, man. I think it's because football season ain't started. You ain't seen nobody that pissed you off because the football has been on the field to make you mad enough.

That's what it is. That's all it is. I mean, got ran. The defense ain't got ran through yet to have you come on this drawing pissed. As soon as that happens, yep, I don't know. I'll watch you live by all. He's going to be pissed.

He's going to be pissed. But it ain't going to happen, Joe. No, it piss you off. That's something that's reserved and registered for only the Browns. What? And any team that the Steelers play, everybody can get it.

You understand it? Yep, yep. I hear you, fool. I hate you. I hate you. Distillers. Terrell Orange, he sounded off, I guess, on the Cowboys. He said, I couldn't care less about Jerry Jones.

Despite some impressive production in Dallas, totaling 3,587 yards in his three campaigns with the Cowboys, it was no secret T.O. had some tension with Jerry Jones. Tio said this week, I could care less about Jerry Jones. I don't concern myself with the Cowboys. The Cowboys haven't concerned themselves with me since I left there. That's speaking of Jerry Jones or anybody really from that organization. The way things ended there with the Cowboys, I could care less.

I have nothing to say about them. Why do you think there's so much tension there, Joe? bro, when we speak on these, I feel like it's relationships. And it's, people don't understand how if you have an owner or if you feel like you have a relationship with somebody, it's a big, it's big business. But it's still personable. It's still you feel like if you talk to somebody, can they tell me the truth? They can tell me, if they, they can tell me the truth, but they can not.

That was one of his things. truthful with me. Like, I understand it's a business. And dudes get that. So, like, if an owner, if you're my friend and we kick and you invite me over to your house, we golf, we hang out, like, we really, really bond. For a teammate, that bond is so much powerful because at the day, they don't own your livelihood. They don't, they can't cut you or be able to send you somewhere else.

When you have a relationship with a owner, you feel like, okay, boom, we're homies. We're still cool. Like, if I ask you something, You could tell me if you don't think that you want to go a different direction. You can let me know that instead of just going in another direction. Like, we have a good enough relationship where I feel like you can let me know and then, like, it is what it is. I'm still, I still might not agree, but you can tell me.

So I think a lot of these things, when you hear players come out and speak on their relationships with franchises and how things are soured, it's because they feel like they were lied to. They may ask somebody something and an owner or a coach or somebody's like, hey, what's the situation? Agent reaching out and then like this. You know, you're good. You're going to be a lifer here.

You know what I'm saying? We're going to get this deal done. And next thing you know, you're traded. And the people, with the powers that be, you feel like, man, we are homies. We're friends. Like, you couldn't call me and tell me. I asked you this.

And you're not telling me the truth. So there's just people have different relationships. That's why other, when people come out and say this, It's not like he's lying. It may not be his bashing, but he had a personal relationship with Jerry Jones, and he feels like he was disrespected and lied to and held a strike. So he's like, man, bump them. Looking at somebody else, if you had your owner coming from your spot,

it's just like the relationship, the owners, the people work for business, you don't see him as much. You may not be able to be in contact. He doesn't just invite you, you may see him at the Christmas dinner once a year, but these players, us, you see him all the time. Like, he's in the locker room. He's talking to you. You're hanging out.

So you feel like, oh, yeah, this is my guy. It's not really because he, once he does cut you, when he does make that business decision that, oh, yeah, it was all good. But, oh, this is a better move for my team for the overall thing because I got everybody in here. So it's smooth. We're friends only on a certain level. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's cool, but I will still cut you.

You know what I'm saying? You still are a piece of the puzzle, no matter how much I like you. you, you're smooth, but there's still going to be a day where I'm still owning this team. You're not going to be on it. C.D. Lamb's going to come. There's going to be George Pickens. There's going to be other receivers. There's going to be other players that Jerry Jones is still there.

T.O.'s retired, moved on. So owners are, they're your friend until you're not. So people coming out and when they say things like this, it's not, he's like, is he bitter? It's like, dude, he had a real relationship with this man, Jerry Jones. He was out there bawling. he felt like, you know what I'm saying, the contract and stuff was going to be good, he was going to be there. He did he lie to him? We don't, like, that's a conversation that they had and you could feel like any time.

Well, if what T.O. said is true that he said he was going to be there, that he would be there, and then he was traded and turned away, then it was an absolute 100% lie. And I don't give a rat's ass about the relationship. I can have a relationship with you and still understand the business of it. What I don't want and can't understand and won't tolerate is you fucking lying to it. Don't lie to me. You're a grown man. I'm a grown man.

It's a business. Give me your honest, whatever it is, opinion or what it is you're going to do. Don't sit here in sugarcoat and lie to me and then wonder why I hate your guts later and piss on you if you was on fire to put you out. honesty. If you can't sit there and tell me the truth, I can't believe nothing else that comes out of your mouth from that day forward once I realize that you will lie to me and you don't know, especially if you don't know,

I don't know you don't lie to me. I can't believe nothing that coming out of your mouth then. That's the problem. I can have a relationship with you and realize Joe's the owner, I'm the player, and you know what? At some point, it's going to be a business decision and you're going to cut me.

But be honest with me about it. that and we have no problems. And we can still be friends later on. Why? Because, hey, I got old. I had to be cut. You said, that bup, Bob, cool. You ain't lied to me and say, hey, it's going to be this or that. And then it was something else. Hey, we may have to move on. Okay, cool. We may, we're moving on. Okay, cool. Don't say, uh, we're going to get this deal done. And then you cut him and releasing. Yeah. Let's go piss anybody off. But you also have to look at it's Jerry Jones. It's guys that either love Jerry or hate Jerry.

And for the most part, guys that love Jerry, Troy Eggman, Dionne Sanders, Emmitt Smith, guys that won Super Bowls. Jerry will treat them a little different. He may be a little more honest with them. You know what I'm saying? Like, look at, you know, oh, my goodness, why am I drawing the blank on Irving? Michael Irving.

Michael Irvin loves him to die. You won championships. It's probably a different relationship or a different way he talks to them or how he responds to them. Then, you know, what he may, maybe he never lied to him. Who knows?

But I'm telling you, the guys that won, he obviously got a different relationship with him because most of those guys speak highly of him. Hell, it's a lot. You're willing to throw that money when they're getting your championship at the championship. Yeah, but at the same time, he was hard for Emma Smith to get that contract for a minute. Right.

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Yes, I mean. 100% with. My, my, my thing is this, dude. If you as a man, can't be honest with another man, you ain't a man to me. I'm gonna sit here and lie to you. Why? I'm afraid you go with my ass.

That's what we're talking about then. No, I feel. I'm, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Can't, it's, it's that, that. Unless you got a gun to my head and said, if you say opposite of what I want you to say, I'm gonna kill you, I'm gonna tell you the truth.

That's what men do. Then it's, it's, yeah, I, I feel you, but I've seen it so many, I've seen it so many different ways. Hey, I don't know, that's what my daddy told me. Shit. I've seen it so many different ways. Dibone, we can't sit here and say that it doesn't happen all of the time.

Hey, you have seen it so many different ways. And there's so many different ways. Like, they look and they'll put it to business every time. So it's happened to all, to a lot of the players, especially on your way out the door. So I'm saying with the younger dudes, if we. Okay, so why are you telling this man a lie? Are you trying to either, what are you doing?

Like, it's it. If you don't know, you can say, hey, we, I don't know how it's going to go. We're making some decisions. How hard is it to say that? It's not. But if you know, yeah, hey, bro, I ain't going to lie. We've got to let you go. What did they just, what's devil's advocate?

They're working on stuff. They're trying to figure it out, but it's not, it's not setting stone. We're working on stuff. We're trying to figure it out. It's not saying. How fucking hard is that to say? You're a puzzle piece, though. I'm a puzzle piece.

We're trying to figure it out. We don't know. I don't know. How hard is it to say, I don't, bro, I really don't know. We're trying to do something. I don't know if it's going to go this, where, or that way. I don't know. This is the thing.

Sashi Brown and then when my, because I was in the situation, when we called the Browns talking about, are y'all going to release Joe or not? They're like this. No, we're not going to release Joe. So they lied to me. So next thing you know, I got released. So my whole thing is like,

It's the business I got lied to But I took it on the chin As like oh it is what it is I'm going to go find my opportunity elsewhere Yes you find your opportunity You do that But now I know I can't trust or believe Nothing you say from this day forward

And I'm gonna keep you at a distance Yeah, no, sure I have to know who you are And if I know you're a person that's going to lie to me I'm gonna put you in this box I'm not going to sit here and play with a fucking rattlesnake And then be surprised when it bite me Yeah

No, no the person you're dealing with and you put them in the right box so that you know, hey, when I deal with this person, I put a. But that's the part, that's the thing I wanted to say too. I'm never really, never putting ownership or coaches or GMs in the point where like I really trust anything that they say. You know what I'm saying? Like, because at the end of the day, they're trying to, their job, they have to protect. themselves. Hey, hey. And that had to happen. That didn't happen until they lied to you, right? Yes. Until this. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. But that's where when you first come into the league, though, you're not, well, this is the earlier. Joe, I can sit here and tell you, hey, this is going to happen. That's going to happen. Do you.

Watch this. Watch that. You're not going to believe it until it happened to you because as far as you concerned, that's that man's probably. That's something he got going on with him. Yes. Yes. Yes.

no bro it's if you know that he's going to lie he's going to lie to everyone he's not going to just lie to one he will lie to the people that he needs to to get done what he needs done because he's a liar period yes i'm telling you well i'm with you a thousand percent i don't think that there's going to be really then any true unless like there's no loyalty in it at the end of the day like That's what, and this is the thing. You have some coaches, you have some GMs, you have some owners who have no loyalty to anything other than them getting what they want. It doesn't matter what happens to any person, player, coach, whoever it is that works for them. Okay.

And then it's some that's going to tell you exactly what it is and it don't matter how you feel about it because that is the person, that they are, not the fucking position. I can feel that. I can see that. Because I'm listening to Robert. I can see where, yes, owners are doing that, Robert Kraft with Tom Brady being able to keep a real, just honest, honest with him. Like, let them know.

No, you're not going nowhere and then he don't go nowhere. Or when it's time, Tom, it's all right, we're going to have to go in a different direction. Just. I would tell you this, bro. I would tell you this. When I was in New England, Kraft pulled me to the side. And he was like, hey, James, he's like, I want you, I want to talk to you. I'm like, all right, cool, what's up?

He said, why is it that we were able to beat you guys, even though for the most part, you guys were more talented all together than we were? And he said, do you think it's Tom or do you think it's, um, or do you think it's, uh, Bill, like, and he basically was telling him like he's thinking about, at that point, that was 2017, he's like he's thinking about moving on from one or the other. He just, he was trying to make a decision, right? And I'm like, I'm going to be honest with you. I'm like, I think Bill does a great job of coaching. Like, you know, he, he puts his players in positions to be able to get out of them what it is. They do best, dude. We had defenses where we, we had like seven, eight different personails and he would switch out two people just to put a guy in there that he knew could do

the job that he needed to done. And Bill would sit there and be like, okay, if they do this, I'm going to do this. But then he flipped to the other side, well, how would I go back and defend this? And he'd be ready to counter react whatever it was that happened. Like, and I was like, yo, I'm like, he's good. I'm like, he's damn good, dude. He ended up later, you know, going with Bill and Tom went and got him another Super Bowl over there, but I, dude, like the honesty thing of the, it's, that's, that's a really, it really, it really is, it really is, it really is. I know, I know guys that have been, I know guys that have been cut, you know, from different teams, from other teams, from whatever it may be. And you have some GMs that's just like straight up, hey, I don't think you got it anymore. you had some dudes that'd be like sugar-coded with you know it's this or that that it's no and and for the most part dude most cats they get to straightforward like yo i appreciate your honesty i don't feel that way but i appreciate your honesty on it and they're able to move from it and they still deal with that person not them up they go and give them the sugar-coating lie and all the other stuff they're like man i really don't i'm gonna keep them at a distance i'll play fake cake and all the other stuff but i'm gonna keep them at a distance i ain't go give him nothing that i got to try to trust and believe what he says. That's all this to do it, bro.

No. You ain't lying. All we can ask for is the dudes want honesty. Yes, dude. This is the thing, dude. I could have went back to New England. I could have went back to New England. Bill was like, yo, I want to bring you back.

He was like, but I don't want to tell you. He said, I don't want to lie to you and tell you what is going to be and what your role will be until I ask. through the draft and we don't went through the draft. And I was like, cool. And I'm sitting there the whole time, bro, and I'm like, I really don't want to go all the way back to New England. I don't want to be away from my kids again.

And I'm like, you know what? I got to retire because I know if I got to the draft and he called me and he was like, hey, I'm gone because I was back in love with the game. I'm gone. I'm gone. I'm like, yeah. And it didn't, it wouldn't even matter what it was for, to be honest with you dude, because I want, I just need a plan.

I like, you know what I'm saying? So I was like, yeah, I got to retire. No, I feel that. Yeah. Like that honesty. When I got there, bro, he was like, we'll put you in on this defense right here. And, you know, as you learn it, if you're able to learn it,

we'll put you in on other ones. I was on everything except for, like, one thing by time we, you know, we got to the Super Bowl. But, like I said, man, of his word, He go do what he said he'll do and he'll get going. And that's like, that's what he did. Yeah, the same thing. When I signed with distillers too, man, they kept it being with me the whole time.

We had real conversations. Omar, it was a Kevin Colbert, just legit. Omar, they let me know what it was, where they stood. So that's why at the end of the season, boy, I knew what time it was. I knew we weren't going to be able to find a way to get that new deal done. So, boy, I didn't even go to the accident meeting because I knew what it was. Like, it's a business. It's what it is.

You already talked. Y'all kept a buck with me. They went up to the ex-a-meeting. I'm just sitting in my-old. I'm going to tell you right now. Kevin Colbert and Omar are the ones that I would tell you right now, especially as far as what I've heard from other players with myself being included in that, that keep it a buck.

Yeah. You know what? When I go back to the Browns, too, I wouldn't say that on this one, I don't even really think they lied. It was a, do you, if you don't accept, they asked me to take a pay cut. I said, I'm not taking no pay cut. you don't take the pay cut, then we're probably going to chop you. Maybe didn't believe them. Didn't take the pay cut, got chopped.

That's on me. That's honesty. That's honesty. That's on you, baby. They told me to take the pay cut. And I said, no, I'm not taking no pay cut. It was tough. They said, well, we probably go cut.

You probably mean we could or we could. No, no, no, no, no. That's on. Yep, yep. They ain't lie. They ain't lie. That's on you. They ain't lie to me.

They ain't lie to you, baby. Take that pay cut. No, you ain't going to be able to find. But the real part was, you ain't going to be able to find nobody else with no better deal than this, Joe. You know what I'm saying? They started saying like, oh, no, your market ain't going to be out there. And that's, I'm like, I hear you. But at least you're telling me, at least you're telling me.

At least you're telling me. As I need it. Let me go. Boom. And they find the home. God damn, I had to remember. I go back into the point. I'm like, this whole look.

Nope. They got the pay. They told they could hit me up. Joe, we're going to give you a pay cut. I'm like this. Oh, because you know why. I'm thinking about not taking the pay cut too, Debo. We signed Brock Oswalder to the damn Browns,

and he got $16 million and didn't play a snap. And I'm like, y'all trying to take $5 million from me, and y'all just gave Brock 16, and he ain't do a thing? You're bugging. You're bugging out. I'm going to stay right here in my deal. We signed a deal. I got hurt last year.

I'm, I'm, I'm still, I'm still him. You still got me in the- I still am. I'm doing a good contract. I just got hurt. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. I still got Pro Bow's in these legs.

They're like just, ah, we don't know. Got to take this cut. I'm like this. Ah, I don't know. I'm not. Sooey. Okay. Okay.

So that's how it happened, Dibor. That's how it happened. Okay. Yeah. Hey, they told you. They did. You know, let me get that dirt off their name. Let me get that dirt off their name.

Hey. Let me get that off their name. Hey, you don't take that pickup? We might have to touch that pickup, but we might got to get you out the way now. Les, I. Y'all said might, but they meant, they meant Will. It ain't if, they could or they could. It ain't if, but when.

Hey, you might as well had told me, hey, you don't take this payout. Mine as well had. God, yep, yep, yeah, that's how I went down. I ain't going to lie. Remember it like it was yesterday. Now, when I'm talking about it in real time, I'm like this, dang, yeah. Then Drew hit me and said, Joe, they're trying to get it back. I said, oh, no, Drew, we're not doing that.

He's like, okay, bad, we're not doing that. Definitely, Super Jay. I'm with you. You shouldn't take a pickup from, what are you talking about? What I look like? What I'm like? Joe. Get out of there, Joe.

Okay, so we got options. Super Jay, Daly and cut you. We, with distillers, I like you a lot. Okay, we got the dolphins and we got the Saints. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to Pittsburgh. I'm not. I'm going to go.

You know what? You know what? I thought I was washed. I'm going to see y'all. We'll come see y'all, man. Yeah, for sure. Come on. We're going to see y'all, man.

Let's see what this super track got going on, brother. What they got going. We got Covenant Life. She's back. $10. Thank you very much. Covenant Live. Roger and that Malibu rental car from last year can kick.

Got to be more killed. Can kiss rock. Kicks. Kiss. Kiss. Kiss, kiss rocks. He tied. She made kick.

I think she meant kick. And I think she meant we tied. Tide. Iron wheel. Step up to the plate. Hey, Joe, thank you for your dressing. Dressing appropriately. Thank you for dressing appropriately.

Thank you for dressing properly today. James, how many caps do you have in your reach? You definitely was swapping out caps. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, nine, ten, nine, ten, nine. You seriously got all them sitting right there? I got 16 cats. Man, I got everything in my room, one room, Joe. You ain't even count the cat behind you.

I don't wear those. Oh, them. Those just... Oh, I got a couple over there that I do wear, but you can't see those. I got a one-bedroom studio. You know that, Joe, right? Yep. There you go, line to the people.

I got one bed room. You got 16 hats in your office. It's crazy work. Ah, 19. But, hey, at least you wore the right colors. Oh, yeah, came through fresh with the Steelers 5. Yes, sir. Practice Jersey.

Call that a Gator 5. You know what you did. Gator 5. I mean, call it what you want to, man. We're going to call it a sweep. Call it the Jalen Ramsey. We're going to call it a sweep by next Tuesday. Cleveland Cavaliers.

Nope. I'm going to probably have to be. I'm going to be end game four, probably Monday. While we won't. Why we're cleaning it up? You know? Hey, look here, man, Covenant Life back again. It's only Covenant Life ain't fired out of.

Covenant Life, appreciate it. She said, back in your playing days, how many family tickets could you really get? And today, can you still call for the same love or all those perks gone? She's talking to you? Oh, back in my playing days, I had a suite for the fam. We had 16 tickets a game with like six sweet. You know what I'm saying? Making sure they was in there

because my parents came to every day. Hey, listen, Joe, this is the problem. Everybody think we get free tickets. Oh, no, you got to pay for those. Them that sweet in the Cleveland, John, 100, bans. Yeah, 100,000. There he is, taking right out of the check. We need it for sweet.

Hey, we do not get free tickets, okay, to the football games. We don't get those. No, we get them nice. When you go and you got, like, all your family coming, like, you know, I'm a year 14 and I will have a whole bunch of people coming sometimes, and I had to get like 25, 30 tickets,

you know, occasionally. Those are paid for out of pocket. Take it out my check. You're going to just get the picture. They take it directly out of your check. It is a deduction that's a label right there. You don't even see it. They don't say pay it to me.

Your box comes straight out that check. Don't worry about it. We get it. Yeah, that is crazy. Right now. Yeah. Like everybody think, man, just give some tickets. Yeah, I'll be like here.

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Listen to PodMeets Twirled on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. They get you, you know, the owner, they could put you in the box, they put you somewhere, they give you tickets to get in the building. Right, right, you get, you get, you get to the, but you ain't getting, but you ain't getting nothing but one or two now. Two, two max. Don't be sitting here trying to get four tickets to the guys. Hey, hey, who do you think? No, you get two of them, joints. be in good space you, hopefully you can bring a homie. You plus one. It's like a wedding when you're going to these.

I ain't go lie, dude. I get me and my kids every home game goes. Oh, my guy, my guy, my guy, my guy look out for me. I know. Larry Paul, he would definitely look out and Thomas Toe. He always look out for me, man. Every day. He always look out for me.

Yep. Yeah. So coming to light back again, $10. She said, Stephen Jackson, in 3041 said the Browns could win every game if they started saying to stop, bro. The chat also said the Browns win the AFC North. Joe, let Debo have a moment

to shut this all the way down. What up? You shut this down, man. The Browns win the AFC North. What I'm telling you is... Bro, don't say nothing goofy and stupid to say, oh, please. What I'm not. telling you it.

Yes or no question, Joe. They could. I said, do the Browns win? This one I'm trying to tell. They don't, I don't know. I don't know who's going to be my starting quarterback. Don't nobody know. Do the Browns win with Shador starting?

He said they win every game if they start. Who is this goofball? Brother. Yes or no. Shador starting. Do they win every game? No. No.

They win the AFC North. You don't win every game. Do you win the AFC North? The North is up for grabs. Do you win? Yes or no? The North is up. Be a man.

Be a man. Be a man. The North is up of grabs. Give a answer. He ain't put me on the, it's still, I got time. I got time. Before the season starts, right before the season, I need to see more. I'm going to training camp.

I'm going to be there. I need to put my eyes on it. I don't need to hear nobody else telling me what it look like. and I go see for myself. That's the best way. So they beat, they beat, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they're, they, they, they're not stressing. Bangle's not stressing. Bray.

Yeah. You are out of your. All we have to do is, bruh. I want to, we need to have an interaction. because you are on drugs. You were talking crazy. You, we need to get you help. You didn't watch, you don't be watching the Browns

the way I'll be watching them. What the hell I need to watch? What am I not seeing? What am I not seeing that the records ain't showing? Listen, it's a working process on the offensive side of the bowl. Now we got our line. We got the same skill players, but better.

Okay? defense didn't go anywhere. Defense is going to get better. Special teams is going to get better. Full team, offense. Let's score. We're going to average. We average over 21 points again.

We're in there. That's nine. That's at least nine wins. 21 points a game against who? Against the NFL. What are you talking about? Three touchdowns. Joe, I'm going to sock you in your face.

No, you not. Joe. Joe, Covenant got another one. She said, I recently watched A.B. show his son's auto and Ali football footage, and you can hear how proud he was and saw himself in his sons on the field. Do you men have that same feeling when you see your sons? I see, I don't want to see nothing about me and my sons. I want to see something far greater and better in.

It ain't got nothing to do with football. I want to see better men. I want to see greater men. I want to see people that love. more, that care more. I want to see a person that is far greater than me in every aspect of their life that has absolutely nothing to do with football and being a godly man. That's it. I think seeing my kids be healthy, be happy, enjoy whatever they're doing gives me so much joy as a dad. So I want to, I want them to love what they love. I want them to love something,

do it, and be like, have passion. So, like, seeing my kids out there on the field, it makes me happy because they're enjoying it. Not because I want them to be out there. They like playing. They like being out there, like having phone with their friends. I don't want to live vicaracy through my child. I want my child to be way better than me if he wants to play. If he does not want to play, I...

A lot of pressure, Joe. There's a lot of pressure on their back, though. You know who is not giving that pressure? And I make sure that I let them know that. It's not from dad. We don't have to do that. You know what I'm saying? Like don't,

we go do whatever. Hey, bro, we don't not have to do this. This is not what you have to leave. I do not care. I don't give a damn. I just want you to do something that you want to do. And whatever you want to do something, we're going to attack it because you know what you're going to do.

You're going to do something. You're not going to do nothing. That's what I'm saying. You know what I'm going to have to be basketball. You're going to do something, though. Hey, you're going to leave him with something. You're going to go and get something. That's what I'm telling you.

going to keep bonding being around. Like, I don't get that. I don't get good. You're going to be going to do something. Track and field, individual sports. You like golf, son? Like, we can go sweet the club. I'm going to make you play a sport, though, because you need that.

I think you need that. I think you need to have some type of sport that you have to fight me and transition and lose and win and have ups and downs. And bond and play and just. Like, structure. I love, the coaching, being able to listen, drills, listener skills, attention to details. Like, all of that stuff is just so, just coordination.

What you're not going to do is just be walking around here like you don't know how to control your limbs. Yeah. For show, for show. My man. We got another one. What's this one right here? All right, there we go.

What's that? Goot. I said, $1,06. $20, $20. appreciate you. He said, when will Debo fight Chad Johnson,

aka Ocho Stinko. That said, with warmest regards, God bless you both and distillers. Yes, of course, love the podcast. Thank you very much.

I paint while listening and some laughs are permanent on the canvas. Brother, I need to see some of that art, man. I want to see what you paint. Please.

You got to send something. You got to send something to the IG. Send something to the IG on Debo and Joe, man. Send it to the IG. We got to see. We got to see what you got. Please. See that all we're talking about.

Yes. I want to see what you paint, man. I got to see what you paint, man. Yes, sir. That fight ain't with me. me and chat that I don't even down. They're having a D-Bow. He's, he backed out.

He backed out. He's victim weight. I can't do it. You're not trying to go to jail. I can't, I can't do it. You know? But what we got? What's today?

Friday? Okay. Okay. So. I think next week, we is it going to be jumping? Tomorrow. Tomorrow we got. No, tomorrow is Saturday.

Oh, Lord. Hold up. Covenant Life, then jump back. Whoa. $100.00 of Covenant Life. Congrats on 100 episodes. Thank you, Covenant. I love you, man, for life. Thank you, Covenant. We appreciate you. Listen, listen. Always. W's in the chat for Debted. Always come. Oh, for show for show. Like I was saying, man, tomorrow, somebody, somebody plays. A couple teams, actually. Who was that show? You already? know what time it is. My boys, the calves and the leg is. And? Yeah. Are you locked in?

Joe. These, or, listen, man, just call me C.C. For what? C.C. You know C C C. C. C. C. C. C. Bafia. Ed. Chad. Chad, would a name it with a lack. You call him Mr. Cunningham. Oh, C. You call him

Kay. Yeah, sorry, Kay. Y'all call him Mr. Cunningham. Kay. I was thinking about Chad, Ocho, asked. Y'all call him Mr. Cunningham, okay? You understand?

It's a sad. I'm sad to say, the Lakers versus OKC, you got a point. That could get ugly. That could get tricky. My calves, though, I still believe

we're going to come back and win the series. You don't understand the way the series. Go, Carl. But you don't watch basketball. So we need to steal. They call, hey, listen, man, they call it that man.

They call him that man the Cav Killer. If they win game three, who. Hey, listen, after they win game three, I'm going to call you because I know you're going to be on suicide. Why? I'm going to be there for you. I'm going to be there for you. Hey, listen, man, I want you to think, though, when that happened, you got kids. No, no, I don't know what crazy.

I don't know what crazy. Okay. I might just, I'm going to be so close to the kids. game game four they might if they got if they need me i will be right there on the sideline if they if they need you it is over with that is true that is true that is true that is true that is that is getting ugly that is getting ugly you right you right you right man if they're going to be that strictly for moral support strictly for moral support strictly for moral support okay okay strictly for moral support i i could go with that i could go with that hey and also sunday sunday

is Mother's Day. So we got to give a happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there. Yes, yes, yes. We love all the Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day, Mom. Yes. Yes, happy Mother's Day. And, um, I got one.

I got one. It is my grandfather's 84th birthday today. He is the leader. He's the pioneer, Joseph Hayden, senior. and my dad is a junior

and I'm the third. So my grandfather's birthday today. Joseph Hayden, I'm saying, yeah, happy birthday, aka Pop Pop. Come on. Yes, yes,

happy birthday. Pop, Pop, hey, let's go, baby. 84, y'all, y'all, y'all. Oh, yo. Yes. You know, just in Popop, he's driving. He is moving and shaking,

putting 100,000 miles on the car. My mama, my mama almost old is your granddad. That's my grandpa, 84, my grandmama. I am the youngest of 14, though. That's what I'm saying. How old is your oldest brother? He's 20 years older. I'm the oldest boy.

You know what I'm saying, Dibbo? That's 20 years older. That's basically how my dad is 20 years older than me. You know what I'm saying? Start a young time. 19. He got married to 19. Married a young, young.

Young. A young young. Had your boy. Had your boy, dub, 20. You're the oldest, though. Yes. Okay. Yes.

He had his five boys between 20 and 27, 28, done. Pah, fom, fom, fom, bum, bum, bum. That's it, I'm done. One of the girl, one of the girls. One of the girls so bad. No girl. Five boys. Fum, fom, fom, fom, fom.

Oh, man. I'm done. I ain't want no girls. Lord knew I couldn't handle that, so he ain't give me one. He only gave you what you can handle. He ain't know it, though. He couldn't handle having a girl. That's why the Lord ain't getting to him.

He ain't know it. You didn't know it, though. Tell me just, say, Lord said, hey, I can't get it to you can't. I can't get it to you can't handle it. I'm going to give you five little boys. No question. No question. Look here, people, we want to thank you for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe.

Please make sure you like, subscribe and download where you get your show. Joe, man, man, we got a couple for them next week. Yes, we do. Monday and Tuesday, Joe. Let them know who we got on Monday, Joe. Is that the 11th? That's the 11, Joe. Is that my good man coming in?

Yes, sure. We got your Josh Cribs. We got young Josh Cribs. Hey, and we got, we ain't going to tell you who we got on Tuesday, but we're going to tell you all after that on Monday. It's a banger. It's a banger. It's a banger.

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