Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: OBJ back to Giants? Travis Hunter expectations, NFL pushing for 18-game season

Episode Date: March 31, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft's 18-game NFL season proposal, Jacksonville Jaguars star Travis Hunter's expectation for year 2, a potential reunion for Odell Beckham Jr. and the New York Giants, and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline:00:00 - Robert Kraft on 18 game Season09:20 - Travis Hunter expectations15:07 - OBJ-Giants Reunion?18:00 - Super Chats (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Craft framed the expansion as necessary for lead growth. We're sort of getting near the top with the domestic coverage, 93 of 100 programs on television or NFL games. Of course, the NFLPA have pushed back on that, citing player safety and health. Now, I will say this. I was told by multiple sources that are on the board that 18 games ain't happening, period. But I believe that to be 100% bullshit unless the NFLPA is willing to be locked out in 2030. Now, if that's the case and you're willing to do that, your new NFL executive director should be telling his players from this year forward to save 30% this year. So you can last 18 months

of a lockout. That'll give you, what, 120% of your yearly salary. So you should be able to do that. But I doubt that is happening. But that's what? it needs to happen. And if you're listening, new NFLPA executive director, J.C. Treader and current president, Jalen Reeves, Mabin, you know, I hope you're looking at the history of what

Gene Upshaw did and how the process was going to go and all that. You know, now, if I were president, you know what I'm saying? I would leave the 18 as a negotiating tactic personally. You know how much you can get it. It would not be without major changes. Roster size, minimum salary increases, which is going to raise the cap and longer health care benefits.

Because after you're done playing, dude, this game, and that five years is up because you only get five years of coverage once you're done playing, it is hard. What do you think, Joe? of 18 games. You think that's good for football? I mean, I think what you said, if you keep it up for negotiating tactics, you can get, I mean, that's the tactic where we can be able to get as much as we possibly want

because that's what they want. You know what I'm saying? The owners and them, they want another game for sure. And you're saying, if we want to hold that up there as a tactic, you talk about getting as much as you possibly can and making sure just for the players like health benefits, all that stuff, the rosters, size, making sure, like, that's something that if you want to get, we get one more game, there's so much that we can be able to really like get, you know what I'm saying, because of that game, because that's the main thing they want

because they know that's going to bring the money. And for us, health benefits, you can look at, and it could be a tactic where we can get as much if we possibly want. So I don't think that we would be too much against it. I'm thinking like I heard something that they were looking like players can only play 17 games. Would they keep it like little things like that? Just do you think that's a possibility? No, no, that's not a possibility.

They're not going to say it's 18 games. The players can only play 17. They're not going to do that. And that's something else like, yo, you want to move to 18 games. You want to cut out a, you know, you want to cut out a preseason game. Okay, cool. But you go, you go pay my guys for that extra regular season game. You're not just go cut their pay over 17 weeks like you did last time when you kicked the game to 17.

You're going to increase another week of pay, whatever that base is for them right now, okay, under the current contract that they have. Guys that negotiate under 18 game schedules, they will have theirs built in because they're negotiating under 18, not 17. So you basically, whatever their contracts are divided by 17 and whatever that number is, add it on. Add it on. Add it on. because if you're not ready and able to be locked off of 18, you are sitting in a no one situation. And I think that's the one thing that you were saying, too.

The next would be the next contract negotiation is the 2030. So like you said, starting right now is when he got to start telling them of stacking up that paper. Like when you're making your money throughout the year, I think hopefully now, did they cut it, did they break it up so you can make it throughout the whole year? or do they still do it that you just get paid throughout the season? You get paid throughout the season, but what I'm saying, when you get your pay, you personally, as a responsible adult,

fiduciary responsibility for yourself and your family, save 30% for sure, for sure, for show, for show. Thousand percent, $1,000,000, Dibault. 1000%. I was just asking how would they still getting their checks out because I'm like, they need to as a grown adult. No, like, that's the dudes that's getting in. they're looking crazy all the way

until the end of the season. Like you said, it doesn't matter how it's kind of getting dispersed. You still have to save 30% whether you get it in four months or whether you get it in 12. Well, you're still going to get paid. You get paid your pay over the regular time.

You see what I'm saying? I'm saying the season starts September. You start getting paid from there until, what is it, January now. Take 30% of what you paid there and save it. I know. I know what you're saying. Next year, save it.

You know what I'm saying? We're not looking for checks coming from the NFL The NFL PA is telling you to save your money so you can withstand 18 months. That's what he needs to be telling them. I completely understand what you're saying. I'm just saying, the breakdown of the checks now, though, sometimes you can get paid throughout longer, like eight months instead of just the four months throughout the season. Oh, they do that now.

Yeah, yeah, that's what I was saying. It kind of helped them out because when you're getting it through the season, well, you don't want to do that because if you get locked out, for sure, for sure, for sure, for sure. But no matter what, matter when you get it, you still want to be able to save it because when you get locked out, you're not getting checks for that whole year at all. So we're saying the same thing. I'm just trying to say that they switch it up from just being that four-month pay that you just get paid during the season, where dudes are looking already like, dude, how are you looking crazy?

You're getting that whole thing during this time. But it doesn't come in and go out. Like, what is your monthly expenses? You need to have that thing set up because you're not getting it. Listen, damn. You know how it go. Dibo. Trust me.

And that's why I was stating it like I was because I'm like, they got to save that. But you're talking about dudes who's trying to wait till next year. Like, man, when we start getting paid again, I'm like, dang. Like, what do we mean? There was nothing. Like, you just went through the whole team. They're trying to do, you know, you got anything I could do

in appearance or signing or something, you know, talking to the team so I could get the rent pay all this. I'm like, damn, bro. Like, I made $60,000 last for almost two years. And on practice squad, while I was sitting in and out going through, you know, NFL Europe and all that. I'm like, y'all boys running through how much? Ooh, we. But like I said, when I started actually getting some money, my first contract, bro, if it came in, I spent it.

You know what I'm saying? I ain't really stopped and be like, yo, I got to save something. My thing was like, yeah, I'm going to run it till it go. And then when it go, it go. And then I get a regular job. Man, I had my son, and I was like, oh, my God. If I get it, I stack it. I invest it.

And that's what I did, brother. Like, from that second contract, that is what I did. They just don't know. They go and not even get a house, just go renting cribs and not buy a house. You just need to, you know what I'm saying? So when you get out of there, you have a place to lay your head. You rent all these big old cribs and $20,000 money. Like, you're just blowing money.

You're giving that. money to the owner. The dude the owns house is getting your check. He's taking care of his mortgage and tucking something. It ain't nothing but 20,000. You know, I'm pulling in 100, you know, I'm pulling in 130, 140 years. A penny saved is a penny. Every two weeks or something, you know what I'm saying?

I'm good. No, bro. Next thing you know, that next year, that next contract, you think it's going to come. And they don't. You're like, yeah, I'm going to do this, do this, dude. Because my next time, next contract that, but I get that one. Then that's what I'm going to talk to that. How many dudes?

you don't hear it with the next contract coming. Don't get it. You better just act like this your last one right now. No question. Travis Hunter. So they said whenever Travis Hunter, he, you know, he had the injury. Whenever he's clear to return to practice this spring, he will be spending more time on each side,

taking reps on both sides of the ball. They said a change from his rookie season where he spent a bulk of the OTAs in many camps on the offense. Hunter will be coming off season with the knee injury, of course. And when he is medically cleared to return to OTAs, they go have him going both ways. Joe, do you think this is a smart move for them to do when he's just getting cleared to come back?

I don't think it's smart at all. Why not, Joe? Why not? We already seen my man. I love Travis Hunter. And now I'm realizing too at the end of the day, NFL game is different than the college game. I thought Elba was going to be the one to let him play both sides of the ball. I need him to, for me, I want him to find his craft, get him a spot, get good at the craft, try to become an all-pro, all-pro bowler, because he has the skills to do it, I think receiver and or DB.

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Receiver, cool, okay, all right, you know what I'm saying? He's just kind of, not a guy, but just okay. And I think Travis Hunter is way better than okay. I think he has the ability to be one of the best players at corner and or maybe something. I don't know. I think receiver he still be really solid. But for me, I think he could be a top flight cornerback in the NFL, like his ball skills, the way that, like the way Patrick Sartan and I say Stingley,

the way that they move and the way that they have ball skills, the way that they can look like receivers at DB, that's what he reminds me of. Patrick Peterson, just with the ball skills, the speed, the being able to contort his body, that athleticism is a lot of receivers kind of have it, but when you're at the cornerback position, that's what makes you special,

being able to turn over the ball, being able to track the ball, being able to, I'm not, he's not holding. No, he's looking at the ball when it's in the air. He's going to go mosterone. receiver and turn into the wide receiver. Like, that is a skill set that not too many corners have. They're trying to break up the ball and they're just more, just make sure he doesn't

catch it. Travis Hunter is trying to pick the ball off. He's trying to turn it over. I think that's like what makes Dion in those great corners so much better. They're not just making PBOs. They're getting picks. So for me, I'm looking at it like he can be elite at corner. He's an amazing player, but it's just, you don't, you want, I want him to focus on something,

get really great to win. he could be setting the next contracts. I'm looking at him like, what do you want to pay him as? Like a, a saw okay corner, you're on a receiver. It's just looking at, for me, you need to be, you can be okay at everything, or you're going to be great at something. And I think he could be great at cornerback just with his skills and being able to literally lock in, start studying tape,

knowing what's going on, not just playing off his athletic ability. So I think if you just put him in that corner, he's not that big either. Like, he's not the biggest guy. I mean, I can see him putting him in a little bit on offense, just sprinkles, but mostly for me, I'm having him a defense. Yeah, I'm 100% against it, but I'm 100% against it because of the health issue. You and I both know and understand that being cleared is a whole lot different than being back to 100%. And coming off of a major surgery, the real list of things. of it is you're not back to a normal 100% for what 12, 18 months, sometimes a little more where

you're back to I'm not thinking about it. I'm not feeling anything. I'm not, you know, worried about it, you know, giving out and you're not putting a whole bunch of extra, you know, pressure on the other, you know, on the other body parts when it come to other muscles. So I'm worried about the risk of re-injury or injuring something else because your body is going to automatically try and compensate to protect that knee and putting more workload on other muscles and ligaments. So I say that simply, I have a health, you know, a health and recovery standpoint. That's, you know, that's just where I see it. The only way I see it being something that maybe they could possibly do is if the reps that he would take on both sides of the ball equal what it would be as far as.

being just one side of the ball. So you lower the risk of injury while still getting him, you know, to be able to play on both sides. But also, again, I think if you do that, you'd defeat the purpose of having him on both sides of the ball. He doesn't get the time needed on both sides to be able to play the position at his highest level. You know, and you're back in the same position as they were, you know, last year.

Yep. I'm with you, Debo. I mean, I think he's great. Great player. You know what I'm saying? I just think that they need to get him in there. And you said, too, if they're going to play him full time on defense, just splitting this time up on office, making sure the reps are kind of the same.

I'll be with it. I know they, if you need, he's explosive. So I'm not mad at Jacksonville wanting to get another playmaker. So just wanted him to be on the offensive side of the ball. But me personally, looking at his skill set, I just think he could be in the elite quarterback. that. Yeah, yeah. I just help standpoint.

That's the only thing I'm thinking about. John Hardball, he confirmed that the team has a, has discussed a potential reunion with free agent wide receiver O'Dell Beckham, Jr., saying, if O'Dell is an option, then we'll be looking at him for sure. Yo, you think O'Dell can still be effective in the NFL? I think he could. I mean, I've seen that he looks still explosive. I don't think he'd be a number one. I think he could be legitimate. He still got the hands.

He still got the vertical. He could still run fast. And I think it would be a great spot for him to finish his career. Started off in New York, I think it would be a night. Like, not just a good story. They do have Malik neighbors there. If he comes back healthy, another LSU guy. Odell's not a bad player, having him at number two, but there wouldn't be bad.

I think they, oh, I mean, not two or three, they still need another. They still need another receiver. But I think Malik neighbors having O'Dar as your, like we had Thielen with the, with the Steelers, like not going to do too much crazy, but still going to be able to catch the ball, slots, still quick, secure hands, you know what I'm saying? So I think it wouldn't be a bad, wouldn't be a bad spot to go. Yeah, I believe it comes down to what the, the term of, if, effect of this, you know what I'm saying?

As far as what role they want him to play on this? It's not going to be too much. Because he's not going to be the Odell that was there, you know, the first time he was with the Giants, you know, like it ain't no way in, ain't no way in hell that, that's happening. But I feel like if he can be a third option, depending on if he's willing to take that or the pay that would be a third option, one, and two, accept the. role, then he can be effective.

So if he has a realistic expectation of his current abilities and willing to accept that role, yeah, I think he can sell like that. But I'm putting him at the third. Are we speaking the same thing? I think Odell's realistic with where, you know what I'm saying, where his, how many teams is knocking on the door, you know what I'm saying, if he wants to still continue to play in the league, you know what I'm saying? And then it's just a, I think that he would be able to be a solid three and, and then just being in New York.

I think that we would just be sweet. It would be sweet. Yeah, that would be a nice, what they call it, a, uh, swan song. A nice bow rapping on to the end of his, end of his, end of his, or towards the end. Yeah, with him, him there with dark. Did he play last year? I don't know. Yeah.

Let's see what we got cracking in the super chats, bro. Super chat. Covenant Life is back. $5. His name is Country Club Will Hauer or the Pittsburgh Steelers. Let's go, Trump. This young man can ball, and he will hit back, and I love it. I'm great with that.

I like that. Covered Life. Country Club? I don't like the country club. Club. That ain't, Pittsburgh ain't country club. Like, we ain't, that sounds soft, right? I'm not mad at the country club. Not mad at a country club. Big Ben was at the country club.

He's a, he's a golf. I understand, but his name being country club, they call you country club Joe Hayden. Huh? Man, listen, right? If he go out there bowling, I'm called like. They call you, they call you, they call you Still Mill Joe Hayden. That sounds good. Okay, we got, look, we got to think, look, covered life, you got to think of something just,

country club, Will Howard. I'm not mad at it because I'm a golfer, but Debo, he feels some type of way. What, what, bro, what golfer, you know, that you have any fear of? I don't fear nobody. That's first and foremost. What golfer would you think had a chance

of beating you up? the only one probably John Ron. Maybe. We're going to have to see. That's what I'm saying. Like, like, what about D. Chambot? DeCambo? Nope.

The shambo. Nope. Okay. Oh, okay. I just want to do it. Liam 90, 87, $5. Said it can't hurt to give Will another year to learn behind Aaron. Yeah, it cannot hurt, but I think it was slowest process.

I mean, then again, they're going to have another fight. Next year it's going to be, well, Will Howard, then we're going to need to draft another quarterback because it's not going to be Aaron Rogers. It's going to be this same story until we get him out there to either see if he can go or not play him, and then, you know, that's just what I. If we get him, I still need to see him reps of the wine.

I want time split. We know Aaron, he don't need a lot of practice. We want to see what he can do. Yes. Yeah, I won't, I won't time. I won't rep split at least to give him connection with the ones, you know, and timing, everything. That would be a big thing. Coming to life back again, $5.

From the question yesterday, my player picks would be the Steelers 2009 defense, move Aaron Smith and give me Justin Tuck of the New York Giants. Oh, oh, no, she trimmed. Oh, what was the one yesterday? We were supposed to do the teams. Teams? What, give me, oh, give me your Brown's team, bro, your defense, please. See, I got some old players, though. We had to go back when we won our championships.

Man, it was, man, it was back in the day. 46 to 53 when we won the championships back in the day, the NFL. Yes, yep, and then we switched over to the NFL for a couple of my players. Hey, let's see how much. Let's see how many names people know of what you said. Okay. I did say NFL, but they played in the NFL too. They did both.

Yep. Okay. First one, I'm going to go Bill Willis. What position? Defense alignment. College Football Hall of Fame. And he's in NFL Hall of Fame, 1977. NFL all decades, 1940s.

Hey, man, stop trying to give me accolades. I want to see if people know the name. Just give me the name. Just give me the name in the position. Okay, we got Lynn Ford from D.C., defensive end. We got Michael Dean Perry. Y'all let me know if you know anything of these names. Little brother, little brother of William Browns fans out there.

I know it's very few. We got Clay Matthews Jr. linebacker. I get you Clay. I get you Clay. Okay. We got Hanford Dixon, the original dog pound. Dixon. Original dog.

Oh, who, who, who, first round. Okay, all right. I met him.

We got the other, his, his, they were ranked the second best duo in NFL history for corners,

him and my man Frank Mennefield, Hanford Dixon, Frank Metafield, the establishers of the dog pan. Okay. We got Miles,

Garrett, day, to the date and present time. No question. Okay. I give you him. And because when,

And then I put, honestly, I put, who else I put there? I put, I put, I put me. I put me there because I'm putting, because the cornerbacks, I got, I got, I got my man Hanford Dixon. He might be playing like some, some safety for us, but I got, I got, I got you. Me? I got you there, Joe. And then I got one more live player that's playing right.

No, no, I got Dequail Jackson, linebacker, I'm going to go to Quail Jackson from the crib. I know you know DQ. Okay? Yeah. Okay? I'm going to go DQ. Brown, yeah. And then I'm going to go with one more present player.

I'm going to go with Denzel Ward. I'm going to go with Denzel Ward. Because we're going to have Hanford play to safety. One of the safeties. We're going to have Frank Minifield play the slot. We're going to have me and Denzel play outside. I mean, you're doing a lot. Okay, so now give me your other team to still.

No, no, no. No, no. Let me give you mine. I give you mine. I give you mind. All right. Obviously, we play a three-four. Okay.

Okay. I already told you, Casey Hampton, the cold his nose to everything. Okay, I'm gonna put, he's gonna go with my man Michael Bean Penny, okay? He, he, he going at the nose, okay? Now, I'm gonna take Joe Green and Elsie Greenwood and put them at my head. Okay, we will. I won't with my- And you know what I'm doing with the inside.

Who are you going on inside? I'm putting both jacks there, Lamber and Ham. Okay, okay. Okay. You know what I'm doing on the outside? Because I like, I like, I like, I like, aggressive, rosy, nasty, they fear. Kevin Green and Greg Lloyd on the outside.

Okay. Okay. Uh-huh. Okay, keep going on. Listen. What are you going to do? Who are your corners? Who are your corners?

Corners. Mel Blunt and Rod Woodson. Okay. That's, okay. Yep. Yep. I don't know who I'm going in safety.

Troy followed Maloo and Donnie Shale. Hey, it's over with. I ain't have to explain none of them names. I ain't have to explain none of them names. That's a good squad. That's a good squad. Give me your still a squad, Joe. No, man.

I just wrote down my Brown squad because I knew you was going to have the stiller squad. You ain't replacing nothing then, right? The only person I'm... So Troy going to be the safety. and then I'm going to have I might go Troy safety

Corners Mel Blunt and Rod I'm Frank and Halford and Frank but I'm not moving none of them No Rod Wilson is 70s I'm talking about for my stillers line up We go do the history one next

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This is Rorschach, murder at City Hall. How could this have happened in City Hall? Somebody tell me that. Jeffrey, who did it? July 2003, Councilman James E. Davis arrives at New York City Hall with a guest. Both men are carrying concealed weapons. And in less than 30 minutes, both of them will be dead.

Everybody in the chambers duct. A shocking public murder. I scream, get down, get down. Those are shots. Those are shots. Get down. A charismatic politician. You know, he just bent the rules all the time.

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Listen to Mostly Human on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. If you're trying to keep up with everything happening on and off the court, we've got you covered on the podcast, flagrant and funny. You look at the top four number one seeds. What do you think UCLA is going to do? Break down that for me, my friend. Obviously, Yukon is the overwhelming favorite in this tournament.

But I'll be honest, I think people are kind of sleeping on Texas. Experts are suggesting that UCLA is the number one challenger to Yukon and that right after that would be Texas. S&C is so deep and so thinking just about everything. It really is annoying. So it's UCLA, Texas, South Carolina. LSU. Only ones that could possibly upset Yukon. On Flakron and Funny, we're giving our unfiltered takes on the biggest moments

the conversations everyone's having. So whether your bracket is busted or you just want the latest on the tournament, we got you. Listen to Flakron and Funny with Kerry Champion and Jamel Hill on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women Sports. Who you're taking out? Not nine. Not me. Outside lineback.

You got to take out one of them outside lineback. your outside linebackers? Kevin Green, Greg Lloyd. Somebody got to go. Which one are you moving? You're not moving neither one? I told you my lineup, bro.

Now, if I had to choose one, Kevin Green got 160. 160? Okay, Kevin Green got 160. Gee, Lloyd, I like the demeanor. Nasty. How many do you got? Okay.

That, I ain't a hundred percent show. So if I had the replacement. one just because you want a better sacked tone, I go T.J. Okay. I think, honestly, from your list, the only person that I would probably replace would be T.J. I think your list, your corners and your safety, there's nothing to be said. Your, your, your whole team is fire. Your whole team is fired.

No question, no question, tell me. Give me your all defense, because y'all, y'all, y'all, you're all. or four three, right? Yep. Okay, give me your all NFL history defense. The one that you say go run that thing, 17-0. Okay. Bruce, Bruce Smith.

Okay. Miles. We're at? Bruce Smith, Miles Garrett. Okay. Middle of my defense, my middle lineback of Ray Lewis. Okay. My corners is going to be Dion Sanders. And I'm going to go Charles Wilson.

Okay. I'm going to go Troy and Ed at my safeties. You biting my shit. Bro, I'm just out here telling you the best, the best to do it. So, you know, if you take it. A lot of ASEC North right there. Ain't no Browns and there ain't few Browns in there. Go ahead.

Charles, Ray, Miles, Bruce. I'm going to go sap at my nose. What I'm missing? You gave me your corners. You gave me your, you gave me, y'all, y'all only do three linebackers. You only gave me one. All right, Ray Lewis. I'm gonna go.

Y'all do two tackles and two ends. You ain't got no nose. All right, so tackle. Tackle still going to be saps. Tackle still going to be sap. Yeah. Who are your linebackers besides Ray? Oh, man, what's my man?

Patrick Willis. Okay. And Luke Keeckley. Luke Keeckley, okay. All right. So I'm going to have to give you mine. Of course, this is a three-fold. Okay.

I told you my nose is him. Okay. Now, I told you I'm putting Mr. Green on my end. Again, you know who else I'm throwing there? Richard White. Okay. That's okay. I know that's why.

Hey, you know, you know, I got on the outside, right? Lawrence Taylor and Kevin Green. Ah! See, I think I'm, I think I called, I meant, when I said Bruce Smith, I meant Lawrence Taylor. I meant Lawrence Taylor. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it.

Stop it. You can't mean nothing now. Listen here, man. I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to put Ray on the inside with, guess who? Who? Mike Singleton. Oh. I told you my defense could be nasty. Disrescent. I need my corners to lock it down.

I'm gonna go on here to see what Revis Island doing with Dionne Sanders. So I just went with Charles and you were real. And I was saying Ed Reed and Troy, but I like, I like Ed for those I NTs. I love Troy, but I want a little bit of a nastier demeanor. Give me Ronnie Locke. I can respect that. Just because you talk this whole thing. Just because he said, you talk about a savage team.

you got fingers don't need them that's very sad singletary savage can't win one can't won't do it won't do it refuse to do it ain't singletary wild man you got the crash you got the crash out so let's go ahead baby now my squad is five baby it's just it's ridiculous you know your squad I was trying to think yeah it's good my squad was five I just messed up I mean I had no disrespect to Bruce Smith but I got I meant LT. Like I said, like I said, it's okay, man. It's okay.

It is okay. We got Liam back $5. With the first pick in the 2007 NFL draft, the Cleveland Brown select. Who, Joe? With the first pick in the draft, the Cleveland Brown. 2027, though.

This is next year. Oh, 2027. You don't get it now. No, because you. you're trying to say we're picking a quarterback. No. They're saying you're the first pick. You're picking first.

What does that mean? We lost a lot of games. You lost the most. Dang. That's funny. 32 or 32, baby. Ain't no way. Ain't no way we got the first pick.

Yeah. Yeah. Listen, man, it's okay, Joe. He ain't going to have the first pick. That's crazy. Quick. Hey, Liam, appreciate that. Quick 201.

$10. Said, hey, Debo and Joe. What about a certain? NFL scout from the Steelers whose son's going to be in the draft this year. I predict we will get him in the third round, initials IT. Who is that? I don't know, coach. You got to tell me who that is, quick.

I don't know who that is. Yeah. Covenant Life back, fired out. Govety. Steve from the chat said the Browns will win the division for years to come if they pick Shador, if they protect the door, sorry, if they protect the door. Steve, please go back to sleep and dream on. Facts, go back to sleep and dream on.

Steve, you know something. Keep the man standing up right. And let's see. Let's see what it look like. Steve, Steve, lead them drugs along, man. If you want to keep a job on here, you want to lead a drugs alone, son. Stop playing with you, bro. Watch.

Wait till y'all see, when the Browns start putting up some points, the defense ain't never been nowhere. They're still there. They're not going nowhere. Scored. I ain't never been nowhere. They forgot how to stop the run. Yeah.

You know what? Anyway, Covenant Light's back with $10. She said, Joe, when you look at your brothers, when you look at your brother, Joe. Josh? Who is Josh? Josh's face in the crowd after a game. Does it ever remind you that your biggest win in life have nothing to do with the scoreboard? Yes.

You are a great big thing. Oh, thank you, coveted life. Thank you. My brothers, me and everything to me. I had a little talk with them dudes yesterday, talking my brother Jordan, two and a half hours. Always talking, chopping with my brothers, making sure they good.

I am my brother's keeper. Thank you, covet it. Who is IT? I'm still trying to figure out IT. I... Ivan Taylor. Ivan ain't in the draft this year. He just got to high school like two years ago.

I mean, college two years ago. He didn't even know him. Oh, you got one more year in? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I don't know who. Who is that? If not last year. If he's talking about Ivan.

If he's talking about Ivan. See, Cover the Life said, though, he goes that Will Howard said he goes to the country club a lot. He's an avid golfer. So, I mean, it only is fitting. It's fitting. Okay. I don't like the name. I still don't like it.

I ain't going to. I'm not mad at it. Ben went to the country club. Let's call him country club. They ain't call him country club Ben. They called him Big Ben. Country Club, Will Howard. Get out of here. Joe, I'm not going with you on this.

Covenant life back again, man, $10. She said when the lights are off and the 92 jersey is tucked away, what is the one thing you want your sons to remember about your character that has absolutely nothing to do with football? Hmm What is something I want my kids To remember about my character There's nothing that I need them to remember

About my character to be honest Which like they see it I show it to them every day Never give up Never surrender When they say you can't do it Just listen to it and prove their ass wrong Hey

It ain't nothing that you can't do As long as you don't tell yourself, you can't do it. Self-doubt is a killer. Mike and Mike, $100. $5. What up, Debo and Joe? If I was part of PA, we can go for, if I was part of the PA, is what I'm saying. We can go for 18 games if NFL removed franchise tax.

Hell no. No. That's not enough. That ain't enough That's why you ain't A couple people getting them drums Now you're tripping That and

That and for sure What else? Okay Brown sucked 099 back $20 I love saying that Love saying that Joe by V what

Be honest J by V I don't know J by V I'm going to be honest. Is you Joe? All right. Be honest.

The first put on the black and gold. Jay by B.O. Hold up. When you first put on the black and gold, let me see the question. When you first put on the black and gold, did you had to spend the first week apologizing to your closest,

to your closest for all the Cleveland Brown? To your closet. Oh. For all of brown and orange? Or did you just burn the old. get, no. So I put my stuff

in a memory box. I boxed it up. I put it in the storage you know, because I burned that shit. No, I did not burn it. Because I knew, I knew the time would pass. I knew the feelings would pass, you know. I was hurt at the moment. I was slow to react.

Didn't burn it all. Just packed it all up. Just put in the storage facility. Hey, Joe, listen, they burned my shit when I was doing it. They burnt everything up. And now I'll get people asking, hey, where can I get your jersey?

I said, did you burn the last one you had? See, that's what I'm saying. They were. They did go kind of crazy. They did. Nah, I didn't burn that stuff. Oh, Joe, man. Coming to life back again, $20.

She said we had training from Donnie Shell at the women's stiller. camp, okay? It was good. Signed football, a pitcher with him, and my husband put it in his office and didn't even know who he was shaking my head. Go, please get Troy

on the show. We go try. We're going to see what we can do. Damn, we're going to see what we could do. I think that's it right there, right? We good. We good. Look here, man. We want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure

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