Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Shedeur Sanders vs Deshaun Watson Heats Up + Myles Garrett Injured
Episode Date: August 3, 2026NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react to the ongoing competition between Cleveland Browns QB Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders, the latest from Myles Garrett dealing with an injury, ...and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline:00:00 - Browns QB Competition11:55 - Nasty Browns camp hit15:55 - Myles Garrett Misses Practice21:15 - Patriots rookie duties32:00 - Super Chat (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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But what we go get to right now.
Hold, hold, hold.
Hold on.
We, what you, I got to ask you a question.
The quarterback.
The quarterback, right?
You're still with the quarterbacks.
Because I was about to say, what you think?
I'll get to the quarterbacks.
Yeah, okay.
That's what I was about to hopefully get into the quarterback competition now.
Yeah, I want to get into the quarterback.
Yes.
I want to, we're talking about Sador taking care of his body, babe.
Okay, okay, okay.
But what I want to get into is who you think go be the starting quarterback.
I was going.
Because, hold up.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Talk first.
What's it thinking?
Now, there's time.
We got the numbers right here.
Y'all got the numbers.
Y'all got the numbers.
Can we put the numbers?
Can we put the numbers?
We got the numbers.
They go to the numbers.
All right.
Hey, hey, I ain't even tripping.
I ain't tripping.
I ain't tripping.
I'm looking right now.
I'm looking right now.
Stop, Joe.
Okay.
Now, I see the one and two fighting for one and two.
But I also see your boy, what's his name?
Dylan Gabriel
Uh-huh
Debo
Debo, please don't
let's talk like that.
Joe, Joe,
he has the highest
completion percentage, Joe.
By a
by a percent
and he's
by basically by half
but not even a full percent
like one percent.
They basically have the same.
I'm just saying, Joe.
You're not.
You're just trying to talk right now.
I'm not trying to say anything.
What?
Numbers don't.
Don't lie.
You don't believe that you're
women lie.
Women lie.
Numbers don't lie.
That's what the numbers say, Joe.
Why?
It's like you got a, it's a two-horse race
and you bring in.
It's a two-horse race is three.
What did coach say?
What did coach Todd Monk?
He said everyone is in competition.
That's what he said.
We're really about to sit here.
Okay.
And he said, what's that thing called?
What's that thing you doing?
You're doing something right now to me.
What am I doing?
want you. I'm just telling you, you ask me what he said, and I told you what he said, Joe.
Okay. Now, so again, I know you think it's a two-horse race, but as I'm looking at it,
I don't know about that anymore, Joe. So who do you think, I mean, who, who, Debo?
Who do you think? Who do you think should be the quarterback? And this one I'm saying to, and it's
still early. I'm not saying he, he said he still hasn't announced a starting quarterback,
obviously. There's days. Today is the first. We still been out there with,
with underwear on.
They still practicing with shorts.
Nobody put no pads on.
Today, Monday, first padded practice, okay?
And then our first preseason game,
our first preseason game is the 15th.
I think he's taking his time, like he said,
we have joint practices that start August 20th
versus the Buffalo Bills,
and we play the Buffalo Bills on August 22nd.
You know as well as I know.
Practices are happening now.
They're going to have pads.
They're going to play their first preseason game.
I would hope that it would be called before them,
but I'm giving them by the second after the joint practices.
By that time, it's the end of the time
when we're going to have to call who's going to be the starting quarterback.
And I think for sure is going to be Shador Sanders.
Because you know, as well as I know,
when you go to those joint practices,
you're playing against another team.
That's where you really getting that,
You're getting that vibe.
You're seeing who you're a quarterback.
How are we performing against another team?
So your teams know.
People know.
They're watching it right now, seeing how Shador is playing.
I'm liking that what I'm seeing.
The touchdowns really came from now.
It was red zone practice.
So before this, nobody was really getting any touchdowns.
Last practice, when the touchdown started going crazy, it was the red zone.
Shador executing, looking really, really good.
Like I thought so.
So I want him to continue his process, continue working,
continuing doing the stuff that he was talking about before, learning, trying to get better.
And I think with him to Sean, too, both of them are, they know it's a quarterback competition,
but both of them are just trying to get better every single day, every single practice.
Yes.
Well, for me, what's up?
Looking at this sheet.
Yes.
I don't see how it's a Watson-Shedore competition right now.
I think it should be a Shador-Dillon competition.
I'm just looking at the numbers, Joe.
I understand.
Hey, that's just how I feel because you're saying it ain't going to matter.
You got to get the pads on, then we're going to really see.
You think getting the pads on going to make him be able to see better than to throw six picks?
This one I'm going to tell you, Debo.
You think that fire from the other team actually rushing your quarterback and wanting to go on head get that little tap on his back to let him know I was here.
You wouldn't have got that all?
You think that's going to.
make him better. You think that corner sitting over there in Buffalo, baiting him into throwing
that thing, and then going, Gasco make him better? Hey, listen, if it was up to me, I think that
Shador should have been the starting quarterback. So coach is giving it at the time and they haven't
still put on pads. We're watching the practice. We're seeing it. They're saying, I'm not going
to be able to pick the quarterback. They're going to pick the quarterback. For me, it's the only,
And you know what's so crazy.
And Watson are getting reps with the first team.
So we can't just even put Dylan.
Right.
I understand what you're saying.
He can't even, he's going versus he's doing the second team.
So if he started getting one rep, then you'll start being like, oh.
Because there's people that saying that it could possibly be Dylan.
I, if those people are just trying to give you that few to say stuff to me that make to piss me off.
That's all.
That's what they're doing.
That's the, yes, yes.
Listen, man, there's a bunch of people on here that don't know neither one of us that's talking about.
This is how we first started.
We start off, it was, it was, Deshaun Watson, he's making $40 million this year.
He has to start, obviously, to see what he got.
He's in the competition versus Chador.
They're battling for the number one quarterback.
Shador's numbers that you're looking at are better, obviously, than Deshaun Watson.
So now you're just going to say, we're going to bump my man up from the second
team, moved Deshaun out the whole way and now say,
Des Chador's battling versus Dylan Gabriel, that doesn't make any sense.
He had a battle for QB1 versus Sean Watson.
He's winning.
But I don't understand this.
Didn't your owner Haslam just come out and say he was not against the possibility
of signing Watson to another year after this year?
And Watson said he was open to coming back.
Like, what's going on over there?
He's on the team right now.
So you don't want to say, oh, I don't give it.
What he does, he's not going to be.
You can't say, well, you know what?
They're going to go past that bridge when we get to it.
You can say that.
He's probably, you can definitely say that.
He didn't say that.
He didn't say that.
He's just, he's trying to give him a different type of motivation.
Because you know what?
He might think about it.
But guess what?
He might not.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, I understand what you're saying.
But I'm just saying you want to put that out there.
He's trying to put it out there for a good motivation for Watson.
Like, okay, bad.
But what about Dylan that's over here?
Like, I mean, you keep worried about.
At what point, at what point do you give Gabriel an opportunity to fight for a second position?
How many picks do Watson got a throat?
Man.
Nine?
12?
Don't forget the end year, what, eight?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What is, second?
This is Gabriel's second year.
Him and, him and, uh, Shado.
Him and Shado.
Last year.
Come on.
What the?
Debo.
I don't.
We're not, we're talking about
Shador is the starting quarterback.
And now you're just trying to figure out
when is Dylan Gabriel going to get his shot.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Right now, I don't think Dylan Gabriel is going to be this.
He's not, he's not the quarterback for the future for the Browns.
So I can.
How do you know that?
You saying Watson could be?
No.
I don't think.
Neither one of them can be, Debo.
I don't think.
What the GM hat on, Joe?
I don't think.
I don't think Deshaun Watson's going to be our future quarterback moving forward.
I don't think Dylan Gabriel is going to be the future quarterback moving forward.
I think our best chance is for Shador Sanders to now see what we have.
This is the second year.
Even if Dylan Gabriel were to have these same new receivers, these new, the new offensive line that we have, I don't think his arm strength is good enough.
When he was throwing some of those fade balls, it was just.
just fluttering through the air.
I don't think, I don't like his arm strength.
So I'm thinking, Chador, so if Dylan Gabriel were the quarterback, no.
We need to go draft.
So what you're saying right now is in your mind, we only have, y'all only have.
I keep saying we.
Yes, because you, my dog.
No, I said we because I was, I was getting sentimental because it was Bernie Cozard
that was interviewing him and I was back when I was a fan.
And Bernie Cozard was my dude, nah.
Yes, love Bernie.
Nah, still is.
I ain't go, I ain't go, I ain't go.
So I kind of, that slipped out.
I said we, because it was, you know, that's what I was thinking about.
But anyway, let me get back to what I was saying.
Now, you said at, let me make sure this right.
Yes.
It just changed.
At 11.51 a.m. on August 3rd.
Yes.
Neither Watson nor Gabriel, you thought, was the future franchise of this quarterback for this franchise, right?
With that being the case, you're saying we only got one that could potentially be,
and that's your dope.
So basically, you're saying that in your GM opinion,
we might be wasting a little time
where we could have made up some brown
and got somebody else, what you're saying?
Got somebody else?
As a Browns fan, as far as another quarterback
that could actually potentially fight for.
No, no, I think this is what's up.
We need to either figure out.
I love when you draft the quarterback.
It makes me.
Deshawn, Deshawn Watson can be the backup.
Dylan Gabriel, if you want to have him as a backup, we need a franchise quarterback.
So I don't know.
I haven't seen Jalen Green do anything yet.
I'm just saying right now, Chidor Sanders is our best shot.
I thinking that we have a franchise quarterback on the roster.
If he's not the one, then we're going to trade, we get rid of Dylan Gabriel.
Deshawn Watson's not going to be on the team.
We'll be in the same boat that we've been in needing a franchise.
quarterback. Then we have two first round
picks. We're going to go get them next year
in the draft. But right now, when we
have Shador on this rookie contract,
it's not Dylan. We had him on the rookie deal.
This is year two. He's still on the rookie deal.
He only on year two. You don't know what's
so fast, but Dylan got his first
listen. I'm giving you my up.
I don't think Dylan's going to be a starting
a franchise quarterback for a team
just from his arm strength, just from what I've seen.
No disrespect, but I just don't
see it in his own. Okay, so
you know what I'm saying? Let's pretend that you are
stillers fan.
for one minute. Who would you want to be the quarterback you were playing against?
If I was playing...
You're a Stiller fan now. Let's pretend you're a Stiller's fan.
Dylan Gabriel.
Wow.
Because I feel like I could pick him off the easiest.
Who's your backup then?
Deshawn Watson.
Okay. Okay. Okay.
That's why you cool with this list.
My list is...
That's why you cool with your list?
Just because...
And y'all don't even know how to practice, bro.
Y'all ain't even in pads yet, bro.
We're in pads today.
Why did you just say, y'all?
Did you just say, Jenkins?
You just said the same thing.
His own teammate in unpadded practice, bro.
Look at this.
What are he doing, bro?
Look, the man looked like he got hitting the eye, too.
Oh, oh.
Come on, Joe.
Come on, Joe.
What they're doing over there, Joe?
Quist Sean Jenkins, Jenkins, Jenkins, Duncan's.
Jenkins.
That's what you're doing over there?
It was a chip.
It was a chip.
It's a chip, bro.
A chip?
Look at it.
He just got poked in the eye
would have looked like the knee.
And he just came through.
Ain't no pads on it.
Yeah, man.
You can't hit him like that.
He ain't got hit him like that.
He got hit him like that.
That's what you're all doing?
He's trying to.
Now, when he going fire on him down,
who fought it at?
Who is that?
Then what?
That's how fight starts.
Then I'm surprised if I didn't even start.
Then he's going to have the box.
Like, that's how fight starts.
As soon as they get pads on, I promise you,
they are going to be full goal at him
trying to light him up, bro.
No, that's for sure.
That's for sure.
Man, this is a chip.
You got to have a bigger,
you got to have a bigger base then.
Brud.
You think you would have win, you would have won the Stowe,
you would have won a stowl smack off.
But, brad, he stole.
It looked like he's, it looked like his,
Toe guy stepped on first, and he was looking already kind of limping, and then he hit him.
So I'm like, he gave him the whole.
He gave him the whole Chaboodle.
Kicking Caboodle.
He jumped into it.
He did.
He did.
He did.
He did jump into him.
He hit him like I hit Massacquah.
No, not even close.
Not even close.
And that was in shells.
That was his shells.
If he weighed as much as me, it would have looked just as bad, but it wasn't.
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That was, I wouldn't have did that.
That was foul.
That was foul.
Right.
But I got to have a strong face.
I ain't tripping.
I don't think you would have flown like that?
Probably.
Fuck, no.
Okay.
I wouldn't, no, Joe.
Joe, Joe, I wouldn't know.
That's what I'm going to happen.
That's what I was asking.
I wouldn't tell you right now.
I wouldn't expect that you to fly like that.
I don't care what that had happened.
I would have been seeing him come through there anyway.
That, Debo, that's what I'm saying.
I'm like, bro.
My antenna is always up.
Come on, that's what I'm saying.
You got to be a little bit more.
And then he just laid down and made like he was going to kick back up.
And then didn't.
They ain't got no fight.
They ain't no fight, Joe.
Look at it.
Look at it, Joe.
He fired on them, man.
He gave him all that.
Now, if he did that to him,
like, I mean, I don't know if they go bring that.
That's what I'm saying.
If you get, if somebody hits you and you stay,
and they stay on their feet,
like, and they didn't like,
he wasn't even looking for somebody.
I understand.
I understand.
But that ain't even a legit.
That's a declete.
He decluded him for sure.
That's not a.
Like he's seen it coming and I put that.
Every time I'm asking about this for you,
you keep saying your head would have been on the swivel.
You would have seen him coming.
I understand that.
You wouldn't have been like that.
So that's what I'm saying.
I wouldn't have did that to my teammate, Joe.
I wouldn't do it to my teammate either.
I wouldn't do that to my teammate either, but he's like, look,
we're trying to establish physicality out here.
He's trying to establish physicality with no pads on?
He didn't really.
All right.
I got you, Debo.
I got you.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
That's all I was saying, man.
Brown-browning, so that's what it is.
You know what I'm saying?
They start doing good.
They get something going good for him.
Then they, you know what?
Like, yeah, let me take my teammate out and make sure he can't play.
Anyway, Miles Garrett is dealing with a little soreness in his lower half head coach.
Simon Veix said Sunday, they keep him out of practice for the third consecutive day, Joseph.
Do you think it's just a little soreness or is there a reason for worry or, uh...
Rams are being smart.
Rams are being smart.
You'd rather take caution if there's any chance of feeling of, you know, hamis or something going on, soft tissues.
That man didn't say, let me look at that again.
What's that?
A little soreness.
A lower half.
Lower half.
Yeah.
What that means, Joe?
I mean, he's so.
But what is the soreness in your...
Have you ever heard a little sort in his lower half?
Not even pointing to a extremity.
It could.
But his lower half, Joe?
Yeah.
What's that?
That's vague.
That is super vague.
Why is it so vague?
Three days straight of vagueness?
Soreness, Joe.
Not...
Dibba, I don't know.
I don't know.
I think it's chill.
I think, I think it's nothing.
What do you think?
Joe, you know me.
I know, there you go.
You think something.
I think, I'm hoping it's not.
Okay.
Serious.
Okay.
But you holding out,
they're erring on the side of being smart,
you know,
there's no reason for concern.
When you say there's no reason for concern,
but you give me
lower extremity soreness.
That kind of makes me concern because you're not giving me exactly, you know, what it,
what it is or what it could be.
And when I hear things like that and the talk of Aaron Donald coming back, I think, I hope
it's not.
But I think there may be a little bit of concern that maybe he may be out for a little bit
of time with something more than a little bit of soreness.
And that's why the hope of AD may be a necessity instead of a hope, Joe.
That's all I'm saying.
Will you tell me what you think, Joe?
I'm going to say I'm hoping that it's just honestly soreness, vet days, legs a little tired.
It just started.
Maybe they're tight.
Muscles might be tight.
Muscles might be tired, man.
Maybe he had no body work.
He was traveling, a lot of travel.
traveling, coast to coast.
It's nothing, nothing serious.
Moving all this stuff.
Moving all this stuff.
He might move shit.
He had somebody delivered, Joe.
Never know.
Miles is, you never know.
Miles don't be, Miles is real.
He's like you.
Miles isn't throwing his money around.
Miles might have moved to sell.
Miles ain't like me because I wouldn't have left that money sitting on that table
but not going to the OTAs and all that other shit now.
Yeah, you're right.
I'd have caught that nearly.
We differ now.
He was, yeah, but he was negotiating.
He knew.
he knew he wasn't coming back.
That's why I, though, D-Bo.
They told him, he told him not to come.
They already, okay, but I'm, no, I'm coming to get that.
You can tell me not to come.
I'm still coming to get that.
I'm under contract, Anna.
I got a clause in there, ma'am.
But then there might not let you leave.
You go let me leave and you go let me leave with this.
Because I earned it.
But this is what I'm saying.
What do you think a contract is for it?
What's in the contract is what you go by?
You can't make up what you want.
to and say, oh, this means that and that means this.
You can't do that.
That's what a contract is made for.
You have to be specific in state.
I'm coming to get my money in OTAs and you go pay me.
That is why there's contracts.
It specifically states what it is, where it is, and how it was done.
What money did Miles move so he could make sure that they could trade him?
He just moved some money around to the back end.
And he didn't get that, though, because he got traded.
He got it.
He got it over there.
He got it over there.
He just delayed when he got it.
That's all that was, Joe.
That's all that was.
And then the money and the bonuses, that's not even counted towards anything.
So, Joe, I got to go get that.
The contracts say I can get it.
I'm going to get it.
You ain't about to do nothing outside with the contract say.
Otherwise, you go have to see me and my people.
Okay.
Okay.
I feel you.
You would have gone to go in that.
Why we're a little different?
Oh, I'm going to get my money.
That's why we're a little different.
Hey, listen, through hell and high water, I'm going to get my money.
But that might be why he got a little tightness in his muscle.
I don't know.
He's going to be straight.
He's going to be straight.
I'm hoping he'll be straight.
Brother, that is, you know, that is 100%.
Now, look here, man, the Pats Rookies, they got to pay their dudes, man.
There it is.
Okay.
So the Pats Rookees are expected to fill the snack.
reserves for their position groups.
Yes.
And rookie quarterback Morton has to make sure fresh oranges are plentiful in the
quarterback's room to go with the juicer may purchase last season.
That's not bad.
Okay.
Keeping cup stock is part of the job as is having gushers for the – who is that?
DeVito.
DeVito.
Okay.
And purple bag Doritos.
I guess those are the spicy sweet chili.
Yeah.
The quarterback coach, Ashton Grant.
Yes.
I don't even know why this is even like a, you know, a story to be honest with you,
because like I think everybody got to do something, bro.
What do you, what you have to do?
I know I had to do something.
Everybody got dues.
You was a seven, you was a first round pick, right?
I was a first round pick, right?
I was a first.
The seventh pick.
What they make you do,
they went hard.
So look, I went.
They went hard on you,
No, no, no, no, no.
I went and knocked that.
I just went and got the whole,
this is 2010.
So this is when iPads first came out.
So I bought the entire defense iPads.
And when I bought the entire defense iPads,
that was my rookie dudes.
He said, brody, you don't have to do nothing else.
So I was smooth.
Only thing my boy,
I did that.
I bought them all iPads.
And everybody,
It was cool and they was a, oh, you bought your way out of all your dues.
That's great.
My way out of the dues.
But then this is the other thing we had to do.
And I made sure.
So it was me, T.J., Larry Asante, and Cliff Gather.
So it was four defensive people that got drafted.
All we had to do was make sure they had Popeyes.
We had to go.
Somebody had to go pick up the Popeyes before the game, every game.
So.
Before the game?
Before the game?
Before the plane.
Before the plane.
You're talking about Saturday.
Saturday.
Saturday.
before the plane.
Yes, yes, yes.
We had to have Popeyes before the plane.
So we did walk through, and then right after walk through,
when we was going to the plane, one of the rookies,
somebody had to make sure we had Popeyes for everybody.
So that was the only joint we had to do the Popeyes.
I got them to iPads.
It was smooth.
And then we did the rookie dinner.
Okay, you ain't had no hazing of any sort.
Bro, the good part was, Debo.
I had great OGs.
We had pops,
Mike Adams. We had Sheldon Brown. We had Eric Wright and we had Abe Elam. These dudes were just
good dudes. So they just wanted to make sure as long as you brought the food, long as you had the
Popeyes for them, you know what I'm saying? And then like buck about the Popeyes. Like, hey,
rookies, y'all got, rooks, make sure you got the Popeyes. Make sure we got the food on the plane.
Cool. We got the food on the plane. They don't have no problems. You don't have food on the plane.
And I'm like, bro, like, it's disrespect. So I'm like, I respect it because you're not acting nothing
crazy. People are hungry. You know what I'm saying? Y'all want some food? And I'm going to do the
same thing next year. If we want some Popeyes, we want some type of food, we go had these rooks come in
because we did it. You know what I'm saying? And it wasn't no like, man, they were super like,
no, chill, look, rooks, just make sure y'all get the food for us when we go to the plane. Cool.
Got you, OG. That's all you need. Solid. Yeah, see, I had good OGs, too.
We ain't, we ain't have to do nothing. We ain't have to do nothing crazy.
rookie dinner, of course.
And that was just for the linebackers.
We had to make sure the room was stopped with candy and all that other things.
Snacks and candy for sure.
Snacks and candy for sure.
And like all the stuff where they tie dudes up to gold post.
None of that.
Their hair and all that.
I'm like, you can't cut nobody's hair.
That's crazy.
Like that's wild.
Like you want to cut my hair.
You can't.
I'm like, no.
That's the fight.
They couldn't cast a ball.
Tap them up against the thing.
I'm like, no, y'all.
No, bro.
Take your pads in.
Cool.
Like, dude, that's out of control.
We had, like, we had some kids.
Like, as we got older that, like, that didn't want to, like, do the parts
or they forget something, like, twice.
Like, one time, you know, you let it slide, you know,
the second time, dude, Woodley.
Yo, this man Lamar Willie, man, I forget who it was, bro.
But the dude wasn't, he wasn't bringing either the snacks or he didn't bring the breakfast in the morning on a Saturday.
I think it was twice or something, whatever it was.
Willie went and had them get popcorn, bro.
He had a brand new caddy dude.
It wasn't even all 30-day tags yet, bruh.
he had them fill up this man's car with popcorn.
Butter of popcorn, bro.
Oh, no.
All the way to the top of the sunroof, bro.
All the way through the car, dumped it in through the top of the sunroof, bro.
They brought up like two, three vans full of popcorn to fill this man's car, bro.
See?
Let's just say he ain't never missed another thing since then.
No, I bet.
And then we had another one, bro.
He ain't want to listen.
So they ended up taking his clothes, bro.
I'm like, yo, after he get, after he get in dress, take his clothes he wore here and put him in bags, filled it up with water and throw it in the freezer.
And then don't give him nothing to wear home.
Like, get him, whatever.
You got out, like, so the equipment room, like, hey, don't give him nothing to wear home.
He wasn't bringing the candy.
Like, he wasn't, he wasn't bringing the snacks like he was supposed to.
Bros.
shit into a brick.
Like he came back.
Yeah.
That's what he get.
The younger dudes, like, the thing is,
when they're not making you do nothing crazy.
Right.
You're not doing nothing crazy to you.
It's snacks.
So it was carry pads.
That was it.
During training camp, you would have to carry pads up.
That was it.
And then that gets you,
I ain't going to even lie.
That kind of got you out of signing autographs.
You'd be like, me and my hands for it,
man, I got all these pads, you know?
Got, come on.
Oh, for sure.
For sure.
rookie dudes.
It depended on your OGs.Gs.
Because then they said like the day, when they was really hazing people, that's just no one.
It was reckless back then.
You cannot take a whole, at the end of the day, he's still a grown man.
No matter if he's a rookie or not.
So some of the stuff is like all of that disrespect, like one thing you're not, like,
you're not going to disrespect me.
When you ask people bring the food, bring the snacks, like keep the room stock, that's just,
that's what rookies would do.
Cool.
Because that's some normal stuff.
Like, you've been in the game, boom, I'm gonna do the same thing when I'm the next year.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, boom, yeah, get the snacks, bring up the pads.
It's just kind of like you're welcoming.
Because I think the old dudes, they do it.
Some people do it as a power trip.
And that's when it's like, bro, what's doing?
Oh, I got it.
Now I'm in that position.
Now I can make them down.
No, no, no, no.
Now I'm going to make this.
What I'm back?
I'm like, bro, chill the fuck out, you bum.
And even if they're like, oh, you know, it'll be the dudes to be like four years, like five years in.
I'm like, you suck.
Like, stop telling him, bro.
Lucky you got before.
Like, you mad at you, you feel like you could tell him what to do because he
about to take your spot.
He's going to be up out of here.
Bring my pads.
I'm like this, nigga.
I'm like, I play with me.
I ain't got no problem with the past.
That was easy work.
I'm like, all right.
Yeah, that ain't nothing.
Like, the pads, all that.
I ain't tripping.
Pads and stuff is nothing.
But we're saying, like, when they're just being mean,
yeah, bro, come on, man.
Our rookie dinner.
A rookie dinner.
So I was, I was practice squad my rookie year.
So, Larry Foote, Larry Foote, though, we did the rookie party.
So I didn't pay the amount that he paid.
I paid the amount as it equaled out to what my practice squad paper was.
So he had to foot the most of it because I was in practice squad.
I was making like 60 grand, bro.
That's right.
You know what I'm saying?
And he was drafted, I think, like third.
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Fifth or something like that.
So he had a little bit of paper, you know what I'm saying?
But it was some, it was some G's, though.
It was some G's for him.
I think I might have had, like, maybe like one or two.
I think his was like 10 or 12, something like that.
Yeah, that's a lot.
Yeah, something like that.
Like so, yeah.
But I ain't going to lie, bro.
When Woodley and Timmis came in together,
one and two,
oh, man, that rookie, that rookie didn't there.
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Hey, man.
Them boys got about seven or seven or eight bottles of Louis.
We don't do it at the store.
We had them get it beforehand.
Okay.
Okay.
No, we ain't go hit them at the store and make them do it for, you know, what is it,
$7, $8,000, whatever.
Yes.
They'd go to the store then it was like $15, $15, $2,000 or something like that.
And then, you know, went from there.
But, yeah, I ain't go, yeah.
That's the same way because me and my boy, TJ, I came in with TJ War.
I was first round.
He was second round.
So that's when we and him, when we were doing the snacks and we'll give the undrafted dudes
that stayed on the team to.
We're like, look, we know we got to do it.
$102 go.
$100, $200, go get the snacks.
That's what I'm going to put be like,
I'll go get the snacks.
I ain't,
I'm like, I'm like, Joe, I'm like, look,
here go $200, man, please go go fill this joint up
for we get yelled at.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
I ain't trying to have much.
I go get it.
They would do the block.
They would freeze your clothes in the block.
I'm like, Joe, I ain't trying to have my clothes in the block,
I ain't trying to, like, I ain't trying to, I ain't trying to, I ain't trying to, I ain't
trying to, I ain't trying my clothes.
Yeah, you know, block, brother.
Like, you go, you go put my stuff in the water and then they throw the,
a mug in the ice machine and bury it.
By the time you get through with practice, bro,
and you come back out,
they don't pull your stuff out, man.
So it's a brick of ice, man.
See, no, no, just get the candy.
Get the candy.
I'm like, and the one dude, like,
he told him, like, dude, he's like,
well, he was like, yo, man, you do that shit again.
I'm gonna fill your car with a problem.
Yeah, fuck you real.
We said, all right, we'll see.
You want to let's it, man.
Bro.
I'm like, I'm like, damn.
I'm like, that's like, that was bad.
I'm like, maybe.
I'm like, if it was out without the butter,
but he was like, hang on all, extra butter on there.
He'll go learn the day.
Yeah, he's going to learn.
He's going to learn the day.
He got that thing, deep clean for show.
Oh, deep clean off writ, man.
Let's jump into these super chats, brother.
What you got, coach?
So what we got here.
Oh, your boy, your boy, Jake Paul, I guess he had a little issue.
He issued a million dollar challenge to NFL players.
He said he would pay any NFL player a million dollars
that they can box better than he can run a route against.
Man, that's he, man, anybody can run a route.
Boxing is.
Hey, he's talking about current NFL players or X.
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
I know somebody, Layne on bail.
I know somebody.
Michelle.
And I think Layman on bail.
You get, I mean, you can box him.
I'm guarantee you.
He could, he could run a route way better than you can box.
And he could box better than you can run a row.
I'm going to guarantee that.
I'm going to go ahead.
I like that.
I don't do Fred, do Fred Warner box?
Fred Warner, I don't think so.
Okay.
No, you're thinking of that video they showed.
That wasn't Fred.
That wasn't Fred?
Because if that was Fred that did that goddamn
then bicycle joint, I'm like,
Fred Warner?
He looked like he got hands and feet,
and I know he could guard.
So if I was just throwing,
I throw Fred in the bucket if that was him.
Brough, yeah, man.
That wasn't Fred.
I don't know, man.
I think ever since Joshua broke his jaw,
he's just looking for something else to have some,
get some attention for, man.
I don't know, man, get some clout over.
But I know, I know Fred.
That's one of my own.
That was not Fred, but I know a little Bell,
Bell bought that.
He been looking for them boys for a minute, ain't he?
Yeah, he's talking for a minute.
It was actually his brother he was looking for
the other time, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
Other brother, even one can get it then, Levyon.
Yeah.
Get that offer to my...
Hey, Jay, get that offer to my dude
Let me on Bell.
For show, please.
For sure, he's going to take that all day.
He's sending out the jet and everything.
He goes, yes.
He said he's sending out the jet.
And you go fly private, Bill.
El Bell, you go fly private, too.
For show, for show.
That show.
Super Chat.
Hecklesante.
$5.
What up?
He said Mount Drew Aller.
Mount Drew.
When they start calling him Mount Drew Aller?
He's going to get...
See, he's going to throw in it?
Is that today, right?
right now?
That's right.
You made that up for us up?
Today years old.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
How you go come and just mess up Mount Washington and just throw it on Mount
Drew Allard?
That's crazy.
Mount Washington, Drew Allard, you got to come up with something different than that, man.
You can't, you can't have what son?
You got to come over something better than that, baby.
He said, could turn out to be like Big Ben.
Ooh.
That's a lot now.
Mad love, my brother, Debo and Joe.
Ten more for some Steelers football.
Heck, santi.
Yes, sir.
Hey, look, Joe.
Big Ben?
Are we missing some?
That's a lot to put on in there.
Those, which, I, hey, I, if, I mean, he being slanging that thing, but, like, Big Ben?
See, he could be the first.
Look, my man going to be first to the party, though.
Nobody can't say, they were old.
Nobody said it, except for my man, heck.
Heck said it.
I'm just saying.
He believed because I don't.
He believed it.
He said it.
He believed he said it.
August 3rd.
You know, Steel his football starts soon.
Dillard football so it's then.
He came back again.
He came back again.
He said $10.
He came with $10, though, Joe.
What are you talking about?
He said, Joe, the Browns have been a deathbed for many great football players' careers.
Should door should take note on how they treated Baker Mayfield and get out of
Dodge.
This is what I'm saying.
Shador doesn't have any control of that right now.
So the best thing that Shador can do is ball out.
Because if you ball out, if they don't end up giving you the bag, then you can be able to go.
But right now, the best thing you can do is perform.
Keep the main thing and the main thing.
Control what you can control.
Because soon as you start trying to do the most, they're going to start making other reasons
why that you shouldn't be the quarterback of another team. Perform where you're at.
Just, you know what I'm saying? Deal with the hand that you're dealt, Shador, and you're doing
the best job at it. So right now, you're getting better players. Just your timing in the pocket.
Do the best thing you can do is become a better Shador Sanders, become a better quarterback.
Do the things you didn't do last year, better this year. So bump, if it's to the Browns,
if it's any team, if you get traded, you have to become a better quarterback, period.
And then we're going to be able to figure it out. You show the Browns, you're going to be
you can be a franchise quarterback,
we'll see if they'll pay you that shit.
Deshawn Watson bread.
They've seen it.
They give it out to something.
They give it out.
So giving them a reason to if you can be homegrown and end up balling,
you know what I'm saying?
Or if they don't, then you can go somewhere else and get it.
But the main thing is the main thing.
You ball out right now with knowing.
Don't get tied.
Like, he's doing the things in the community.
He's going to all the kids.
Chidor is being a perfect player for Cleveland right now.
As far as the community and as far as what he's saying,
it's a quarterback as far as the competition is going.
So all you can do is can control what you can control.
And if the Browns start acting funny and if they don't want to sign you,
then you show that you're a competent, good quarterback,
somebody else will sign you to the bag.
Yes, sir.
If you, they did three quarterback, good franchise quarterbacks aren't just laying around.
So hopefully if you ball out, the Browns will do you right.
But if they don't, you can go find another team assigned you for shell.
For sure.
For sure. Covenant life back.
Covenant life, $10.
She said, Joe.
What is your perspective on the surging receiver market
and how quarterbacks have to adapt their mindset
when guarding wideouts making top-money, top-tier money?
Huh?
You've got to change your mind, huh?
Let me see you know, John, your mindset?
This is all you know and is like,
oh, they think he's that nice.
Now you're looking forward to strait.
Yes.
Anybody that's getting paid because that's who you get paid.
I'm right this.
I want anybody that's getting the dough
because now I'm going to show you that you don't know
what the hell's going on.
I'm going to be studying this.
tape, I'm going to be doing, when I go against Antonio Brown, I watch the most film.
When I'm going to say AJ Green, I'm watching the most film.
Like, when you're going to this other dude, obviously, you're watching tape for sure.
I got them circled on my calendar because it's like everybody's watching this because
they expect him to go off.
What he's not about to do is go off on me.
So when you see these dudes getting paid, it does nothing.
But I think if you're getting scared, go stay home.
Go to go to church.
Go to church.
Don't be on my squad because we want all the smoke.
We want all the noise.
We hope that Jamar Chase is coming in the building because it's like, all right, now, now.
Time to eat.
Time to eat.
Let me go get one.
I'm going to the promo.
I'm going to all pro.
I snap this joint.
So that's how to get motivated.
Yes, sir.
Covenant likes you back with $5.
She said, Debo with Jamer Gibbs holding in at Lions Camp.
What's your take on guys sitting out practice for a kind of?
contract. Does it ruin the team's physical edge? No. Hell no. Oh, no. I do not have a problem with guys
sitting out for contracts, doing what they need to do or holding in, however that process works
out. I think this is, I think they kind of put their self in the situation, to be honest with you,
because when you release David Montgomery and traded him over to, was Houston, right?
Yeah, you trade him over to Houston, you gave him the opportunity to hold in.
You know what I'm saying?
And be there to where he doesn't have to participate.
Why?
Because you don't lost your one-two punch.
You let part of your one-two punch go.
So now he's like, you know what?
I got to do more.
I got to carry more of the bag.
Y'all got to go ahead and give me what I need to make sure I'm going to be able to do this.
You know what I'm saying?
It ain't no longer one two.
I got to throw both of them.
Ba-p-p-ba-ba.
I got throw both shots.
There's no longer one to.
I got though, too.
So I don't think it ruins the team's physical edge or nothing like that.
As one player, the whole team should be playing physical anyway.
And once you get him back in there, it should be just a continuation of, you know, what it was.
Yep.
We got Mike, Mike.
He back five eyes.
I said, what up, DeBoh and Joe?
If y'all going to Stillers practice, y'all got to go to the Brown's practice, too.
Got to be fair.
I would go to a Brown's practice.
Joe, Joe,
ain't got the, you know what I'm saying.
Joe, Joe, the one got to get that, you know what I'm saying?
Okay.
I'm a, all right, let me, I'm going to get a setup then, Debo.
That's what he's saying.
That's what I'm saying.
Joe, hey, listen, I'm just going to keep your 100.
They don't really mess like Joe.
They don't mess with Joe.
They don't mess with Joe like.
Because Debo got them not messing with me no more.
Yeah.
They don't mess, they don't mess, they don't mess with Joe.
Like, like, like, still is messed with me, you know what I'm saying.
Wow.
I mean, and after that 70s.
sisters talk, who knows, in the city.
I mean, it gets crazy.
Wow. Wow.
They know me.
Yeah, I mean, they do know you.
They know you a lot well.
They know you a lot better now, you know what I'm saying?
That's all I'm saying.
Wow.
You know.
Hexanti, he's back.
$5 said, Debo.
Did you ever experience a hit like that from a second year player?
You, Joe, any similar experience.
He's talking about the hit.
It's your boy.
Got over there.
Oh.
Not.
Not in shells.
Not in shells.
No.
No.
Not in shells.
Not in shells.
Not in like that.
Yeah, I mean, no.
I mean, when on the on the, on the left waist drain, he just, he pushed me down.
He ain't hit me like that.
Yeah.
I ain't, yeah.
No, I ain't.
I can't say, I can't say that done happen.
Hell.
Covenant lights you back again, $10.
She said, Debo, with the Hall of Fame game on Thursday, on Thursday,
do players actually care about winning preseason openers,
or is it strictly about rostered game surviving cut date?
Rastal guys.
Here's the thing, is that's part of the process.
So, man, you have to.
I was in percent.
I wouldn't say winning, but if you do well,
as a team, that is what happens.
Yes.
So winning, yes, is part of it.
But when it comes down to it, like, is it a, it don't count against anything.
Like, I could go in there and play great and we lose, but that's going to help me.
It's not going to help the team as a whole, but it's not going to hurt the team as a whole either.
But other than the development of realizing that we don't, we're not all on the same page.
As far as, you know, it's just roster, yes.
roster point blank period like i'm i'm trying to make the roster i'm trying to not be cut on
the last cut and be part of the 53 that is what it is about um but through that process it's just
more of the coaches trying to realize what's going on like what i got who can do it who can who can
run it the way i need it ran who understands it boy you ain't lying during during those preseason
games the individuals out there is more that
That's the most kind of individual that you will feel because it's like you have to look at your grade sheet.
And it's how did I perform each play?
How many snaps did I get?
Did I get a check or did I get a minus?
You know what I'm saying?
Did I play well or did I not?
Because it's more your resume.
Each snap counts like, did you do your job on this one?
Did you not?
Okay, yes, he was writing his right gap.
It's not about the play.
Alignment, assignment, assignment, technique.
You know what I'm saying?
So if you're doing those things well, that's really what you're worried about.
It's like you can, if you all lose, it's like, okay.
Hey, boom, somebody did some things where it didn't work out.
But if I got all, you're looking, I want to make sure I got all checks.
I did good.
You know what I'm saying?
I did my alignment, my assignment, my technique.
Yeah, definitely.
That looks like, bro, that's all we got right now.
We got, my brother.
So, actually, tomorrow.
Yes, sir.
At Heidi and Unk, they will be here from 1130 to 1230.
They will be here with us.
If y'all don't know who they are, they are at Diamond Gym.
Check them out.
I did a workout with them.
Go on my page, NFL page.
It's actually collabs, all that other stuff from the draft that we did.
It was April, whatever it may be.
Yep, April.
And that whole thing is there.
So if you want to know who they are, you can check them out.
We're going to have them on tomorrow.
Have a good conversation.
Again, we want to thank you guys for joining us.
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Joe?
Yep.
Appreciate you guys.
We'll see you tomorrow.
Same time, same place.
Let's get it.
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