Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Skattebo's CTE joke , Malik Willis ready to thrive in Miami, Abdul Carter Changes Numbers

Episode Date: March 23, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to New York Giants edge changing his number, Cam Skattebo apologizing for making a joke about CTE, Malik Willis on taking the Miami ...Dolphins QB role, and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE 00:00 - Abdul Carter Changes Number09:10 - Malik Willis READY to be QB113:50 - Justin Fields could start for Chiefs19:40 - Cam Skattebo apologizes for CTE joke (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:13 He changed the jersey number. I guess he revealed it after Russell posted. So he is now going to wear number three. Making the switch after, of course, Russell departed. Yes. Carter went viral for requesting to wear the Giants legend. Lawrence Taylor's 56 last season, in which Lawrence Taylor,
Starting point is 00:03:39 respectfully declined, get another number. I don't care if it's double zero and then make it famous. Yo, you got any issue with guys switching numbers and doing all that other stuff? You know, he had some issues last year. I guess he got benched twice for some disciplinary reasons, missing me and all that. I don't have a problem with people switching numbers. I don't have a problem with my thing is when you come in, though, I'm not asking nobody for no retired number that's out there already.
Starting point is 00:04:14 You know what I'm saying? It's retired for a reason. That man went and did that. He's greatest of all time. He's greatest. So you go get you, like you want to go set that legacy. Get a number like right on. He got 56, try to get like 55 or you want to step up 157, something in member.
Starting point is 00:04:32 But like, I'm going to make mine, mine the way Lawrence Taylor made him, him. Like, I just, my thought, if I'm coming in, I just got too much respect and you got you, you got to start your own. Like, you are you, you are you. You coming in as a rookie, come set your own legacy, set your own trajectory. You're trying to get on the field, see what the NFL is talking about. Get your feet wet. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:04:56 Like, understanding the game. Like, I feel like that's just putting unneeded pressure on yourself also. Like, you already first round pick. You already got the target on you. Now I'm trying to go get Lawrence Taylor's, I'm like letting them know. I'm here. It's me.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I'm like this. No. Like, you got to kind of like chill a little bit. But for me, for me. My mindset is coming in here, I got to come figure it out myself, get my legacy going, get my feet wet, stand on my own 10. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just additional pressure is just, I feel, I feel like it's just you didn't need it. It's unwarranted.
Starting point is 00:05:29 And then that's could just make people look at you like, you already a first round pick. We already know you need to come out here and snap. And now you're saying you're going to come. take LT's number out of retirement? Oh my goodness. Like you, like, I mean, it just, it's just, you can't kind of be that good off rip. You can't. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:05:46 You kind of out kicked your coverage trying to get some. You're putting something on your back that's like, no, I know. You just don't do it. I just wouldn't do it. The extra pressure, ah, it's tough. Yeah, I don't care about the switching of numbers, dude. You know, I don't, I don't really care. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:06:06 guys like certain numbers. They feel like, you know, they like it better. They play better, you know, whatever it may be. Joe, I didn't have it luxury, Joe. I was, I was 42, 46, I believe 41, 93, and finally 92 after Jason Gilden left. And I didn't pick none of those numbers. You didn't pick none of those numbers. All those numbers was given to me, okay?
Starting point is 00:06:32 I didn't have a question. Debo. A request in a no. Joe, I was cut. D-Bow. I was cut up, like, so much, brother, I could have bled the death from Paget Church. Like, they was cut me so much, bro.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Like, they was just throwing my man, the jersey is crazy. They were dicing. Listen, bro. I'm in the 40s. You know I ain't have a chance. Nika, flap back. Here, take that one. What we got available?
Starting point is 00:06:57 Here. What we got available? Here, put that on. Yeah, put this on. Here, put that on. But, you know, somebody else got that now? Hey, put this one. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:06 That nine two stuck, though, Debo, nine two stuck. It hit. It hit. Man. I ain't going to lie, but I came in that. But look, when I first got to Cleveland, they gave me number five for training camp. And then I had to put on 40. They gave me 40 because I had to try to get a 20 number.
Starting point is 00:07:22 All of them was gone. So then I had to go ahead and buy the number. So I had to get number 23. Yes. Damn, Joe. This is how crazy that is to me, Joe. You was in the 40s. I had number four zero for the first day.
Starting point is 00:07:39 As the first round draft choice, that's crazy. No, no, no. It was only for a day. It was only for a day. You know? It was only for a day because you paid money because you, Joe, big money grip. Oh, geez. Oh, what I was going to take the, everybody here was the older, you know?
Starting point is 00:07:57 No, this is, no. And that's why I'm coming in every. I got to come in that. What do you mean? Hey, what you need, old man? Give me that. What you need, OG? What you need?
Starting point is 00:08:04 My man, my man, Peyton Hillis. And he came through to-in-at rock. Who'd you pay for that? I had to end up. I paid. Eric, I think I might have paid E-Write. And then... How much?
Starting point is 00:08:15 The dude, it was 20 bands. Woo! 20 bands back there. Oh, Lord. 20-bans. In 2010, 20-10? What are you doing with 20 right now? 20-bent, 2010.
Starting point is 00:08:25 20-10. But I got that 2-3. And then my man, Peyton Hillis, they had to do a whole little working around who got the jerseys. And then Peyton Hillis ended up moving number 40. And looking, and then he goes, cover a madden with that joint. You know the running back from the brown.
Starting point is 00:08:40 That was totally. That's crazy, brother. That's crazy, Joe. That's crazy, Joe. You, man, listen, 47, 48, 93. Then I ended up, when you seen me in that game, that rookie car, 23. Okay? Know that.
Starting point is 00:09:00 That really wasn't your rookie number, though. And then look, look, they're lucky because when we would have went to the league, you couldn't go single digit until probably a couple years ago. Ooh, would have went five on them, too. I wanted to go five on them, gave a five at the corner. Ramsey looking sweet holding it down. But I wanted that. I just wanted to have one NFL jersey, single digit, number five,
Starting point is 00:09:21 Hayden on it, looking sweet. Bro, I'd have been wearing that 16. I ain't going to lie, man. 16 was like my high school in college number. I would have been wearing that 16. I ain't going to lie to you bought a joke. I ended up switching to a single-digit number of my senior year in high school. I switched to a three.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Man, I got suspended three games. I was like, yep, nope. When you were younger, Debo, when we play little league, you play little league, boy, single digits was the most fire players on the team. You had to be a single digit. If you was number one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, you were fire. So me and my brother, we were walking to the game. We would be looking on the, we were looking.
Starting point is 00:09:59 You see the single digits on the other team. We was a single digit on our team. We knew who was guarding each other. other, we knew who's going to be the quarterback, the receivers. Like, the best dudes on the team normally had a single digits. So that's why we was always trying to rock. One or five or seven. Because when I start a younger boy, I was the quarterback, Michael Vic, seven.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Yes. Yeah, them single digits, that's your, that's supposed to be your higher tier players, you know what I'm saying? You can't be giving a single digit to the dude that's second string. You can't be doing that. You know what I'm saying? Brother. Like, you got some people that do it, though.
Starting point is 00:10:32 It depends on who it is. I got lied to coming out of high school, Florida, they told me I was going to be a single digit. My rookie year, freshman year, you're going to be a single year, got there 12. God, was super close. Super close. Almost. Almost. You're only three digits away.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Freshment year, I started, and then my bubble call will ended up getting drafted. I said, Coach Meyer, I'm a freshman All-American. Give me that five. I need that five. He said, yes, sir, Joe, you get that single year. Boom. Thank you. Sophomore year, I'm not taking this off.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I would just, I would wear that little practice jersey around. Yeah. Y'all see me in this five. Too, man. Hey, Joe, what that face look like when they hand you that 40? Show me the face you made when they hand you that 40, Joe. I didn't even, I didn't even laugh. I was, I was, I was, I tried to miss it.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I was like, I know, who that's not mine? No, that's not my jersey. But, yeah, I was like, you know, Joe, for sure we're going behind me. I know. someone, hold on. A duck? I was like, oh, no. That's my job?
Starting point is 00:11:36 Hold on. Hey, Hayden on the back looking crazy. Big old 40. I said, wow. But then my man, T.J. Ward ended up rocking the 43, and he looked sweet. Like, I'm like, oh, don't you, you're safe. You look sweet. I said, no.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I'm corner. This don't big as heck. Just holding this four, zero. You don't even look like you got no size in it. Bro, I need to have the four or the zero. Not both of them. Can't give me both, huh? You can't give me both.
Starting point is 00:12:02 So, man, the office new quarterback, Malik Willis. I don't know. He felt like he was ready to be a starting quarterback a year or two ago. We got to sound for that. Listen to this. Did you feel like you were ready for this a year ago or two years ago or you needed the past couple years to get to this point? I'm not sure. I only know until, you know, so I'm grateful for the opportunity now. And that's all I can say. I can't say whether I was ready or not. I can't prove that.
Starting point is 00:12:35 You know what I mean? That would be just me being arrogant or prideful, you know. But the opportunity's here now, and I'm going to try to do my best to take advantage of it. How you feel about that response? You like that response? You don't like that? How you like it, Joe? Man, the dude's super duper humble.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I'm just getting, I'm getting dumb, humble vibes. Not, not, I'm getting crazy humble vibes. Like, he's super duper humble. Yes, sir. I think that I like the way he's just, you know, hindsight, he just doesn't want to start saying stuff. He doesn't want to put his foot. He doesn't want to go try to take somebody's retired number.
Starting point is 00:13:10 You know what I'm saying? He's basically going in here like this. Look, guys, ready for the opportunity. I can't say what I could have been back in the day. If it's the fifth, we all be drunk. I'm here right now, signed to the Miami Dolphins, and I'm ready to go. I'm in this position. I'm ready to go forward.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Like, let's get it. All that, like, backwards, like stuff that don't really make sense. Like, what, that question? What do you mean? Do you think I was ready? I could, whatever, but that's back in the day. I'm here right now with the Miami Dolphins, signed, ready to go. And he's not saying, not trying to put any high expectations on itself.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I think that it's just, he's ready to go. He knows what he's expected of him. And this is just the guy that's like, I'm not about to have y'all put anything extra. No, that would be me just trying to say something. I'm just going to keep it quiet, keep a humble. Where now, oh, man, like, I'm going to just get you guys on my side. Like, just that's how you start off with the media. I think he's really good media trained,
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Starting point is 00:18:53 So I like the way he did that. No question. Joe, I love the response, Joe. I love the response. Thank you. I'll go, Proverbs 11, too. It said when pride comes, then comes disgrace. but with humility, humility comes wisdom, Joe.
Starting point is 00:19:09 And when you look at James 4-6, I like James, okay? In 1st Peter 5, 5, 5, both of them say, God opposes the proud, but shows favor to the humble. This is a humble man. This is a wise man, Joe. This is a man with humility. He understands he's not going to let his arrogance and prideful way, get in the way of a response.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Like, hey, that would be. arrogance and pride for. I love it, Joe. I love it. I love it. You know, especially for him being the next quarterback of the, you know, Miami Dolphins. Hopefully he can turn into that franchise quarterback that they're looking for, you know. And the only thing that's going to determine that is the status of how he plays, how well he does it.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Do you think they found their franchise quarterback? Yeah, I mean, the time will tell. Like you said, time will tell you only play. seven games. If he stays consistent, we'll see. How good is his line going to be? Is he going to be protected? I don't know. So it just Miami, they got a whole situation. They got to figure out. So if I like the offensive coordinators, we'll see if they put them in positions to win. If the running game is good, like it's going to be a lot of moving parts of Miami. Miami just isn't a right now, we just need one piece and we're going to be amazing. I think they have a lot of
Starting point is 00:20:30 holes on their team. So it's going to be a building process. But I think he can still be a franchise quarterback. I mean, he's a third as a quarterback. They got a lot of pieces missing over there. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:39 They got a lot of pieces missing over there, Joe. But we only got one missing, Joe. Joe, Joe, Joe Burrow, we only got one missing, Joe.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Debo, you. One, Joe. You and miss the I just, I can't help it, Joe. It that had, you don't know,
Starting point is 00:20:55 you know something. You know something. I don't know nothing. I'm just trying to speak it into existence, Joe. All I know is what I want, you know, and what,
Starting point is 00:21:03 and you know, If two come in the grins, you're in the grance with me? I am in the grance. Okay. Then it shall be done. It shall be done. The Lord. The Lord said that.
Starting point is 00:21:16 You funny. I'm just, hey, Joe. I'm with you. I'm just saying, Joe. I just talk when I talk. Let's go on over here to another quarterback that's been to a lot of places. Justin Fields could become the first quarterback to play for four different teams and start week one with a different team.
Starting point is 00:21:35 23, he was with the Bears, 24, he was with the Steelers, 25, the Jets. And this year, if Mahomes isn't back in time, 26 can be the starting fourth year for him with the Kansas City Chiefs. Joe, this is a lot of, it's not a good stat I want to be a part of, well, no. Lord, hell, whoa. Yo, I guess the Jets end up losing 48 million. in cap space by letting him go when you add in Aaron Rogers dead money. So this year, they had $104 million a dead money, which is third.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Only, of course, to Miami and Arizona, Tua and Murray killed them boys. Yeah. And then you or what they did. They went in on head, got old Geno Smith who was looking like he'll be the starting quarterback at 3.3. Fields go to Kansas City and get $8 million. Damn. But it looked like, bro, oh, my, this is real. Is that real?
Starting point is 00:22:41 2027 is looking like they will have 150 million plus in cap space plus three first round picks. Brough. 27, 150, three first round picks. Bro, they can make some moves. Don't go and think, don't do, who, 23 first rounds. I ain't going to say nothing because I don't want them to, I ain't going to say. Joe, how you, Carol, how do you feel about Justin Fields being into his fourth team? What do you think the trajectory of his career would be?
Starting point is 00:23:18 Right now, I mean, I'm not, I love Justin Fields. Great dude, great person. Joe about to say something negative. That's why he goes with the positive. No, no, no, no, no. But no, no, this is what I'm saying. He's going to say something that he's going to say something that he's. Don't really want to say, but you're just going to say it.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Go ahead. Yeah. It's because this is the fourth team that you're going to be playing on as a starting quarterback. You want to be a starting quarterback. This is the perfect opportunity for you to do it. You're in Kansas City. You know you're not going to be there. You're here for a good time, not a long time.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Patrick Mahomes, that's his team in Kansas City. So you want to just be able to go there, show that you're a competent starting quarterback where, you know what I'm saying? It's good. They already have the team. they have Andy Reed, they're the Kansas City Chiefs. If you can come in there and just make it look, make it look good, make it look reasonable. Make it just not, don't lose the game.
Starting point is 00:24:10 You don't have to go out there and be patching my homes because you're not patching my homes, but you can go out there and be sustainable. When it's run game, you got a new running back, making sure that they keep it ahead of the sticks, use your legs when you need to, hit the passes when you need to. We're not actually to do nothing crazy, but just show that it's not your fault. You know what I'm saying? When you were in Chicago, when you were with the Steelers, The offense just, you were looking pretty good with the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:24:32 It wasn't bad. You know what I'm saying? Not my fault. It wasn't bad. Jets. I don't know. In 2023 when he was with the Bears, and then we ended up picking him up.
Starting point is 00:24:47 I thought the move was a little questionable. The reason I thought the move was a little questionable is because in 2023, when he was with the Bears, he made a statement that he, they're making him think too much. he just want to go out there and play. That statement right there told me that he doesn't want to read these things where he can't read the defense. And that was something that I was like, I didn't like.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And it gave me pause of like, yo, is it a mind thing? Is it a knowledge thing? Because he has the skills to be able to play the position, plus, you know, add a little something else to it, which is his legs. But when he made that statement and just threw it off to like, you're making me think too much. No, you just told me and told them yourself that maybe the game is too hard for you to acquire.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Maybe, but you're thinking it might be a butt of neck. When you say, I can see both ways, maybe the way that they were presenting the message, it could be bad coaching. Like, you guys are telling me, I don't know what your guys are really teaching me. So I'm just looking at it now. You went to the Jets,
Starting point is 00:25:51 so you went from the Bears to Stilers, and then from the Steelers to the Jets. And we had the same outcomes. I'm saying now he has his last. That's why I was saying. What I was saying, you got Kansas City with Andy Reid in that offense. So now I'm just looking like, if you're going to do it now, it's not where else we're going to go? You went to, but you did.
Starting point is 00:26:15 You've done it. You've done your job. You show now that I think it may be backup quarterback. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you think he's going to be able to take a team to new levels, I don't think so. If he's not going to be able to, like you said, you've only as good as you, what have you done for me lately? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:32 I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because the Bears ended up changing quarterbacks before they got Caleb, right? I mean, changing coaches, right? Yeah. Okay, and then we changed and the Jets are the Jets. So, I mean, it's a possibility. I'll give him, I'll give me something on that. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I'll give you some leeway on that, I guess. Got to. I mean, he don't got to, but we'll see. Yeah, yeah, we'll see for sure. We'll see. 2020. Scatterboot trigger, man. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:27:06 He was asked by a host of a show, I guess, bring the juice podcast. If he thinks CTE is real, he said no, and it's an excuse. Wow. Scatibu brought. Then we're presented with the premise that asthma is an excuse. scatteroo agree, no, that's a good take. He said, yes, asthma is fake too. Yourself.
Starting point is 00:27:36 He later issued this apology right here. He said, recently I did an interview and had a lapse in judgment, which resulted in me making a tasteless joke about CTE and asthma. It was never my intention to downplay the seriousness of head injuries or asthma. I sincerely apologize to anyone who was offended by my remarks. and I assure you that I'll be more mindful and respectful going forward. Much love.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Yeah. Joe, I thought it was a joke when I first saw it, but I know good and well, he ain't right that. Who wrote that? B.R. Okay, I'm just saying, because I ain't going to lie. I was listening to it, and I'm like, it's got to be like satire or something, right?
Starting point is 00:28:20 This can't be real. Like, or his CTE, like, kicked in. Like, I mean, mine kick in some time, too, you know? You know, and I got to sit there and I got to think. I'm like, yo, is that me or is that like arrogance and pride like dude was saying, you know, and I'm sitting there and I'm thinking like, uh, you know what? I told you I like James, man, I got to go back to James. And it sends me back to James and I'm like, yo, James.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Listen to the book of Jane. Quick to listen, slow to speak. So I let's slow myself down. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. I'm just glad. He backed off.
Starting point is 00:28:56 He came back and apologized. And like, it's not, dude, it's not a joke, you know. Somebody got to him, obviously, and he got a, you know, he got a realization and understanding. I mean, if you go back, I think they did a study in, what, 2023, where they did 376 former players. They found that 345 of them had some form of CTE. That's 92% of the players they found from a Boston University. CTE Center study, they found that, you know, a lot of, a lot of guys had some form of it. Joe, do you, you worry about CTE, you worry about if you got a little bit?
Starting point is 00:29:45 I mean, I don't think I got, I don't, I'm kind of, there it is. There it is. There's a CTE. It kicked in. There it is. So my, I mean, it got to be. It got to be. I think my memory, my long-term memory, for sure, is shot.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I know that for sure. I don't know. My long-term memory sometimes is real spotty. My people, they got to tell me when we did some vacations or whatever. I'm like, I don't did stuff. But I'm like, is it because I done did so much stuff? You done so many, Joe. Having a good time, like, just be blessed.
Starting point is 00:30:16 But like when my friends would remind me of things that we've done, I'm like, okay, I just need a refresher and then I can remember. You remember the time you got stuck in Mexico? I remember that. Okay, I'm just checking. I'm just checking. That's more short term. That's more short term.
Starting point is 00:30:30 That's more short term. But yeah, but I think that people for sure, CTE is a real thing. People getting hit upside the head dead serious. Debo is honestly real for show. And some people have it more than others. It might spike. I don't know too much about like how people react and just moves and just feeling in certain type of ways.
Starting point is 00:30:52 And it has to be a lot of stuff too with just going to retirement. and then not playing and then just a lot of things mental health. A lot of stuff. A lot of stuff, bro. Yeah. I still do a lot of what I guess I would call like brain health type stuff, healing, cognitive repair. Like it's just all kind of stuff like that. And a lot of, I also take like neurotropics, you know, and that's stuff that just helps, you know, your brain function.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Memory, mental energy. learning, it changed all that other stuff. You know what I did? I did a lot of that why I played too. So, and I still, you know, I still do a great majority of it now, especially, you know, with all the reports coming out of, you know, the CTE and what levels it is, all that other stuff. So, yeah, this is something that is 100% real, you know. I got to, I got to make sure I'm 100%, you know, aware and, and, and, in.
Starting point is 00:31:56 in play, especially, you know, with my kids, you know, because I can't tell, you know, sometimes I got to look back. I ain't going to lie, Joe, my long-term memory is trash, too. Oh, for sure. I don't know why, but it's been trash. Brug, they was asking me some questions about something at the Super Bowl, NFL films was asking me questions about, like, something about, like, playing, like, whatever it was, the game against, I want to say it was.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Green Bay. I'm like, dude, I couldn't tell you nothing about, like, the Super Bowl, like, 2011 Green Bay. I'm like, bro, I don't know. I don't know what. And actually, Charlie Batch was there. And Charlie's like, oh, yeah, this happened, that happened. And they're like, well, do you remember anything about, you know, sex on Aaron Roger?
Starting point is 00:32:46 I'm like, I don't even think I ever sack. And Charlie's like, yeah, you did. You got a safety on him at home. I'm like, dude, when? I'm like, when? Like, and I'm on camera, brother. I'm Luke Wilson. Join me each week for Film Never Lies. Since retiring from the NFL, I've had a lot of my mind, and now got my own show. So if you're tired of lazy takes, if you want honest conversations, join us each week. Film Never Lies available on all TSN platforms in the IHeart Radio app.
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Starting point is 00:37:10 that have made F1 a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Talking to me, and I'm like, when did that? They're serious, though. He's like, Charlie just reciting and saying it. I'm like, I don't even remember this, dude. I'm like, yo, y'all put Charlie up here.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Like, put him up here. You ask him the questions. He got the, he got the memory. Right. He got the memory, man, like super brand. You know who was actually like super, super, super, super good at that? Like, memory, he can take you back to like his playing days and sitting in a room. With just whatever it may be talking to a guy.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Yeah. Who? Coach Leboe. See. Coach Leboe's mental capacity, dude, like crazy. Like, this man played back in the day when the Hamlet was like, is the greatest I have ever heard or seen in life, dude. Like, it's wild, like, how well he remembers things.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Because I seen, like, the one I asked to coach Sean McVeague, Like, he'd be real, I know that man probably got a crazy memory. I know he was reciting plays and stuff all the time. Like, dude, like, Coast Bowl down there, how old is he? You know, almost mid-80s? He's still doing it.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Still doing it. Bro, I call him right now. He'd be like, hey, Jane, you remember the time? And da-da-da-da. I'm like, damn, I don't remember. Oh, what's you? Yeah, I think I, you know, I got to. I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:38:56 You know, I'd be saying that, too. But you remember? Yeah, yeah, I remember. Yeah, I remember. I don't remember. And then especially when there's something that's like old me, you know what I'm saying? Like the dude that wasn't saved, I'd be like, I did that for real? You sure?
Starting point is 00:39:12 Mm-hmm. You tried to actually eliminate that memory yourself. Brough. Yes, brother. Then you know, you add you might be out there party and, you know, a couple drinks on top of it. You're like, man, I don't know if I did that. I might. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Debo. We got in the chat. What we got in the chat? Super chat. Let's check it up. Take off. All right. Stillers need to.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Who we got? Liam. 987. $10. $10. Thank you. Thank you. Stillers need to pay Chris Boswell.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Yes. Pay the man. Pay the man. That's Bankroll Boss. Pay the man. So I call them. every time They cut my man's pay
Starting point is 00:40:06 At one point About a year two ago I don't know They cut bankroll Why? Hey, chat Didn't they cut my man's Pay about a year two ago
Starting point is 00:40:16 Let me let me know man Let me know I believe they did I believe they did Covered it I believe it did Do he is he on this Is he on this last year
Starting point is 00:40:30 Or do he got two years left? Bankroll Yeah I think he got a year left. Let me see. Man. I ain't rolled balls, but that's what I'm saying. He can't go anywhere, though.
Starting point is 00:40:48 We need balls. Oh, no question. Banker old boss. Four years as of, oh, man, it's a 22. He signed a four year, 20. I think he's going to be, okay, we got him this year. He's still under contract. This is going to be his last year.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Okay. It's a 2027 here. be unrestricted free agent. So we got to give him a little something this offseason. A little two-year extension. Two. Brother. Back to the super chat.
Starting point is 00:41:26 They go ream up, man. They're getting right. But I really believe they gave him a little bit of a pay cut like a while ago, man. I'm trying to tell you. I'm trying to tell you. I believe so. I don't know. I could be wrong.
Starting point is 00:41:41 I don't remember the bankroll bars. Hey, like I said, man, my long-tone memory. track. That's what I'm saying. You just be making stuff up sometimes. I don't know. I feel like, bro, I really feel like they made, they had my man took a little cut or something. Man, I swear, I feel like that, dude. Like, I don't know, man. I don't know, man. I could be wrong, man. Covenant Life. Seven. Oh, well, that's Covenant Life. It's coming to like. $10. Covenant Joe, she's talking about Burrow. I'm, of course. Joe in the AFC North, the Steelers are degraded. Joe? No, she's talking to you, Joe.
Starting point is 00:42:15 You run that, Joe. Oh, okay. Joe, and the F.C. North the Steelers are the greatest. I'm not trying to be funny, but playing for the Browns, did you ever see, did you ever say, damn, like Miles Garrett when being the worst team like the Falcons? Okay. Covered Life. I will always think Covered of Life that we was going to win.
Starting point is 00:42:42 I never went into a season being like, oh, no, we got a terrible team. We always thought we was going to be able to win. Until we were mathematically eliminated. And then that's when you would be like, damn. We still won't go out here and who. Man, bro. Y'all like three and eight. And you think y'all got a chance?
Starting point is 00:43:02 Brough, we could win? Yes, because we're not getting smacked. We weren't just going out there getting whooped. We would lose by two, lose by three, flukeishly lose. Like, we could win. I'm like, why can't it just, the ball need to fall our way one thing? time. It's not like you're just going out there getting blowed out. So, yes, I did feel like
Starting point is 00:43:22 we could win until we were mathematically eliminated. Then people got to looking crazy. And I'm like this. Oh, man, this is not what it's supposed to be. Okay. Is that good? Okay, Joe. Whatever you say, man. Look here, man. Coving the light back again, $2. $43.43, Troy Palo Malo. Best aware of the 40s. Yep. See, you could have, you could have wore a 40 and been okay with it. No, that's a safety. There's no corner that's the- Oh, it's just safety. That's wearing number 40.
Starting point is 00:43:59 If you're a safety, then you could wear number 40 and look sweet like Troy Potomalo, like T.J. Ward. But if you're 40 at corner, you look like they're going to be throwing the ball at you a lot and going at your neck. Because they're like, oh, buddy got 40. in the corner. They must have just do that to him. Like, they gave Debo that 47. They gave me
Starting point is 00:44:23 42, 46, maybe even 48. 93. Okay. Okay. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. It was never. It was never 40. Never 47. Okay. I just tried to get you to that. Yeah. I just tried to
Starting point is 00:44:41 give you. That's just nasty. That's just nasty. That was just nasty of you. My bad. Like, coming to life back. $10. She said, I tried not to come back to the super chat, but I had one more question. This for you, Joe.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Oh, Lord. She said, Joe, please name all of the Super Bowl wins of the Pittsburgh. Oh, I don't know. The score and who they played. I don't know all of them. She, I don't even know if I can cite that one. See, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:45:20 This cover, Lee, trying to. You came out here crazy. I can tell you the ones we won. You don't know. That was in. That was it. Detroit. That was against Seattle.
Starting point is 00:45:33 So you got Devo flustered. And who was it? Who was it? Whoa. The Cardinals. Yeah. I told you, bro. Remember we tried.
Starting point is 00:45:47 I need, I got to go back in my roller decks and I got to see me playing and look at the team. And what was the score? I couldn't even. tell you the score. Definitely. If we won, then that's like you won. I know we lost in 2010, 11. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Look at Debo. Showing it, showing it right now. Showing what, bro. Bray. That was a little bit, maybe. Hold up, man. See, now I'm about to go ahead and jump down your night. I'm going to go ahead and see.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Give it a shot. Come on. Give it a shot. Who you got? Score. I know they beat the Cardinals. Y'all be the Cardinals. That was my man because I played with San Antonio Holmes.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Toes? Hold on, hold on. They whooped Dallas. Dallas? Dallas. Okay. Dallas twice, maybe. Dallas three times?
Starting point is 00:46:45 I don't know. Wow. Dibo, debo, debo. Hold on. You call yourself. Hold on. You call yourself. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Let me tell you. You call yourself. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying? Why don't you just look in history? What's for you? I'm trying to help you out. No.
Starting point is 00:47:01 You got a stunt by the question. They tried to fry me. I'm trying to ask. I'm trying to help you out. No, no, I need, because how are they going to ask me for a question that you're supposed to be to Mr. Stiller? All the Super Bowl wins are the Pittsburgh Steelers. Nope, nope, nope. She tried to put no one on you.
Starting point is 00:47:19 I can't even tell you this. Okay, let me get, dang. All right, so now the Vikings, Cowboys, you write, Cowboys, Cowboys, Rams, Seattle, Arizona. That's only five. Minnesota Vikings. Minnesota Vikings. Dallas Cowboys, Dallas Cowboys. That was twice.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Right. And 76 and 79. Then the Rams in 80. Yeah. Then the Seahawks in 06. And then the Cardinals in 2009. Yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Okay. Yeah, you got it right now. See, okay. Good Googling. Good Googling, Joe. I had to. Yeah. You couldn't, you didn't know.
Starting point is 00:48:02 What's the score? You said Dallas. Is it Dallas? I said Dallas in Dallas. You did. You did. Dallas. You did do Dallas twice. You just remember
Starting point is 00:48:12 the Seattle, the Seahawks one and Minnesota Vikings in 75. Yep. So, Debo, I see you got a, yeah, you just showed, you just show what was up. Bro, you showed what was up, too. What are you talking about, bro? Wow.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Like, listen, Joe, we got somebody that said, what is it? Carl Spackler, 87, this man said, I will sit. I will sell the naming rights to my first kid if we get your borough. You say he will sell the name of rights. That boy is selling his whole, his whole.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Now sell it. You got to give it away. Give it away. That show me that you don't want nothing from it, but borrow. Dedication. Sacrifice. Show him some dedication to sacrifice. Joe Burrow!
Starting point is 00:49:16 I let you boy. You know what time it is. I let you boy, you going up there, you talk to Mr. Brown. You let him know. You go ahead. Give me a call. Tell me what he said he won't. I jump on down there.
Starting point is 00:49:32 We can figure that out. Talk to Omar. Talk to Mike McCarthy. Hey, we get the deal done. Look here. We want to thank y'all for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. So please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your podcast. Joe, is it.
Starting point is 00:49:57 We'll be back here tomorrow. Same time, same place. Here we out. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to 99 years until a confession changed everything. I was a monster.
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