Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Terrion Arnold Arrested + Brandon Aiyuk Situation Takes New Turn

Episode Date: June 26, 2026

NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react to the arrest of Detroit Lions DB Terrion Arnold, Brandon Aiyuk's latest post in an attempt to be released by the San Francisco 49ers, and much m...ore! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline:00:00 - Terrion Arnold Arrested11:05 - New Brandon Aiyuk Post22:09 - NCAA Eligibility Rule (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:36 Music's got the most ad-free top podcasts ready to entertain, included with Prime. Speaking of mental health, man, someone right here, man, someone right here. The Lions, what is it, Terri-on, Arnold arrested, faces kidnapping, robbery, recharges. Police say Arnold reportedly orchestrated in an armed robbery and kidnapping after believing several people had stolen property from an Airbnb he rented, even though the investigators later determined that the victims had nothing to do with the theft, Joe. Ed Boy got three victims over there. All of them teenagers, well, they still were on.
Starting point is 00:03:21 What was it, 17, 18, no, 18, 19. Like, they, according to police, it was two women who allegedly lured the victims to a temple apartment where the two suspects, where two armed suspects hiding in the closet, jumped out and held them at gunpoint, beat them and robbed them. What? Brug. Investigators said the attack was live-strained to Arnold, who, what are you doing? Who allegedly gave directions through a group chat before arriving at the apartment while
Starting point is 00:04:00 the robbery was still underway. at least say the victims were later forced into their own vehicles at gunpoint before being released. So, bro. Did you, did you, did you, this happened a while ago? And now they came to God and got him locked up. They tried not to let him out. Did you, did you, so you read the store?
Starting point is 00:04:25 February 4th. So just the crazy part, Debo, about the situation is, obviously, when you get your, your Airbnb. He said the Airbnb got robbed and he thought it was the driver, his driver that they was used the whole time. So then they went and set up the driver. So he went like, yeah, when told the police, da-da-da-da. So he went and did his own investigation. And it's like, I understand when you lost $250,000 worth of jewelry and you're mad and you're upset, but don't go playing James Bond or detective or monk. You know what I'm saying? Like you, then he did his own detective things when to set these people up. When they're wrong.
Starting point is 00:05:03 robbed them. They had nothing to do with it. You know what I'm saying? Like, you just, you can't do that. So now the driver comes out. It's like, it's not. I just got robbed. You know what I'm saying? At gunpoint, because they thinking, no, where's the, where's the bread? So the whole situation, Depot, is actually crazy. You know. There are $2,000, they said, cash and values. Yes. Yes. Stolen. Yes. Yes. Right. How in the, People, I, it's, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Like, and you get the wrong ones, though. You, you don't did this to the wrong people they're saying. Yes. Like, you got the wrong. Because you felt like set up and went and started doing your own investigation. Listen, law enforcement said none, none of the three victims were actually involved in the Arabian beat that. according to statements from Tampa Police Wow, dude.
Starting point is 00:06:07 18, 19, off in Tampa, I guess. How do you, listen, you up here playing gangster gangs, man, about 250. You tripping, bro. Call the insurance company, collect the insurance, keep it moving. I'm not sitting, you want to do something? Tell the police,
Starting point is 00:06:32 What happened? Let them figure it out. They might have actually caught the right people. They said they pistol-wipped them boys for two hours straight. Deep. They picked the one with two hours on live stream, bro. Huh? And you go do it on live stream? Why do you?
Starting point is 00:06:51 But you texting and everything, you don't understand about a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. I'm back and I'm watching the wire again right now. Like, right now. back in the day. 2000. Longs. Debo. Hold up, dude.
Starting point is 00:07:10 On top of that, the two chicks, I guess, that they had to set them up, they testified and again. They already pled guilty kidnapping conspiracy, robbery with a firearm.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Do you want to know why? She really, Debo. Four years. She got four years already. Because the girls were the ones that he hit up allegedly to go over there and set them up to say like, yeah, we're going to have a little fun, set up the driver to come over there and have a little grown man time with the girls.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And then they was hiding in the closet. Popped out, boom, girl, the dudes with the guns was there. The girls FaceTime were like, what do you want from him? And he was like, they ain't saying that. They ain't got it. So that's when he ends up like this. No, I'll be there in a minute. Pulls up to the crib.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And then that's when you say he started doing the stuff to the dude in the spot, man, right there. So the girls, when they get caught by the feds, their start instantly, oh, no, he was the one that told us to set up the buddy. You know what I'm saying? They snitching. And then they got home. They're going to go and they four. And now they tell them that he was the main one to do the whole stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:21 What are you thinking, even setting that up or trying to do that? Like, they dropping the dime immediately. Listen, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, it's very, it's very few, few people. If, if, if and I was going to do something like this, that I would do it with it. It damn sure ain't going to be a female of random, anything, like, it go have to be like, I ain't doing it. First of all, first of all, we ain't ain't doing it, Debo. Listen, Joe, if I'm going to do anything, I'm just going to. going back, oh me, oh me.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Yeah, this one I'm saying. Oh me doing this solo dolo by myself. Can't nobody tell on me but me? Nobody. The only panic said, yeah. Yeah. Can't nobody tell on you but you? Can't nobody tell on you but you?
Starting point is 00:09:18 Yeah, I'm watching with you got to watch. I mean, no, see, nope. Gotta watch better shows. You didn't watch the wire. You didn't watching Dexter. Like, right. you face a license now they're facing a license
Starting point is 00:09:34 they told him he ain't get well they ain't giving it they're going back on the 20 what is the 29th or something like that to see if they go actually giving a bail they're like yeah they go they go review that because they're saying
Starting point is 00:09:47 they don't want him to get out because he made threatened witnesses and then pay people to go do stuff and all that or they got you dead to rights because you didn't do anything you could you pistol whipping and everything man like you came over
Starting point is 00:09:59 you like no No, the answer wasn't good enough. No, let me go on here. Let me get some of this. And then, at the wrong ones. You ain't even, you ain't even get,
Starting point is 00:10:09 you ain't even get the ones that got it. They're sitting back right now laughing, joking. Oh, yeah, we still got it for $2.50. Now he's about to go sit in jail and maybe for the rest of his life. He is facing life. A lot of charges still.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Multiple first degree felony counts of kidnapping, armed robbery. Dude, that could carry. a maximum billyally of life in prison under Florida law, bro? It's not a game, man. Not a game. Really out there, no. First round draft pick, bro,
Starting point is 00:10:42 and now you're about to be sitting there doing life. $14 million contract. You just bought, you just gave up everything for $250 of something you could have reported on an insurance claim or to the police and just said, you know what? Even if I ain't got the insurance claim,
Starting point is 00:10:59 hell, me. It got me. I know you know if he ain't got that shit and sure. I know. I know. It's not. It's not. Look, I ain't got no earrings in right now. You know why?
Starting point is 00:11:10 Because I lost them. You know why? Because they fake. I lose stuff. It ain't no need for me to even. I tell it, listen, man, if you see me with some jury on or anything like that and you want to rob me, go ahead and rob me. I promise you you ain't doing nothing but practicing.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I'm a get it. I'm a give it to you. And let you keep going. with it. I ain't even tripping. Yes. I feel you. I feel you, Debo. I'm in the same boat, man. Life is... But yours is real. I'm a... I ain't go like you. I've been thinking... I've been thinking some crazy stuff. Before we got cool, I was thinking about robbing you and myself.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I ain't about lies you, Joe. That was before I was, you know what I'm saying? That was like 2017. I was thinking about Robbie then when you first came to... It ain't... It wasn't nothing personal. It was just my, you know, that was just my mind and my mentality. And you were a brown, you know, you came over all iced out. You know what I'm saying? You. driving two, three different cars. They look the same. Same car, just different color.
Starting point is 00:12:04 I wanted to take your car, too, but then I was, I mean, I was going to lie. I was chilling up. I wasn't saying nothing. I wasn't saying nothing. But I was looking at you. You were shining. Your ice was in my eyes. It was blinding me.
Starting point is 00:12:17 I want to get that. I want that too. I like that too. I ain't go wear it. I'm just going to sell it and get the money for it. I'm going to break it down. You Billy was trying to take my chain off my neck. I ain't, I ain't go.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I was like, and then I saw you had two of the same cars. You said they ain't, you know, they ain't the same car. But they look like the same car to me. I'm like, he could afford to lose one. And I was just go get that and chop that up, take it to the chop shop. One of them was a two door, the raf, and one of them was a four door, the ghost. I'm just saying, Joe, a rave, a ghost, two door, it didn't look like this. It looked like the same car to me with two doors and one half four doors.
Starting point is 00:12:56 The front and the back. Why did you have a rake? I don't know what the rath. Raith. W-R-A-T-H. Raith. Raith. Rath.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Rose-R-R-R-R-R-R-S-R-R-E-R-S-R-R-E-R-S-E-R-Rose-G-E-Rose. Ghost. Only ghosts I know is on Power. Yeah, that's what, man, that's they out there playing ghosts. They can't be out. That's what it is. That is a TV. That is a TV show.
Starting point is 00:13:21 And then they came with the, then the collab, then the Tyreek. You know what I'm saying? Then the Ghost 2. Then the Tommy. You know what I'm saying? Then the Raising Canaan. I ain't seen no Tommy. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Everybody out here being. I see no Tommy get hooked. I ain't seen no Tommy get, you know what I mean? Like a Tommy. I ain't seen the Tommy get, you know what I'm saying? Tommy, they got his own joint too. Tommy. He got his own joint too, but I ain't seen nobody go out there trying to pull a Tommy yet, though.
Starting point is 00:13:43 These fools want to play ghosts on. Got to be more careful. Yo. Hey, Joe, you got to be more careful. These boy, out of their mind. Speaking of out of their mind. What is I, are you guys? doing, man. He posted a video
Starting point is 00:14:01 announcing he's back on tour and that tickets to come see him can be found on the Washington Commander's website. He also posted this video of him in a closet tossing a bunch of money on the ground as another
Starting point is 00:14:17 as another reminder to the 49ers of the money he's made from them I guess. Joe, peep game on the video. Yo, bro, why is the closet empty? You know, clothes in there or nothing? Hey, he probably already packed up the movie. That's what, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:45 He just, bro, he throwing all that money on the ground, bro. He throwing all that paper. Hey, do you think he just left it there and left? No, no, definitely didn't leave that after the video. So what was the point of throwing it on the ground if you ain't going to just leave it? For this. For this. For we're going to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Oh, for us to talk about it. You're going to go pick your money up, Debo. He ain't leaving that. You're seeing that's his crib. He's moving out. Did it for the video. And right after that, they're scooping that money right back into that bag. Thousand percent.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Yes, for sure. I mean, if you're real boss like that, you just leave. No. That's how Joe was doing. No, sir. No, sir, I wouldn't. I mean, Joe could do it like that. You know what I'm saying?
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Starting point is 00:20:23 It's in character. Listen to learning to be human on IHad Radio, Apple Podcasts, or whatever you get your podcast. You don't need to be sitting at flexing 10 bands throwing on the ground. It's just not... No, Joe, I ain't go lie. That's a little bit. 10 bands, 20 bands, 30 bands, 100 bands. Joe, I think...
Starting point is 00:20:42 What if a hundred bands? That looked like... What are going to do it at 100? I couldn't zoom in on it. I think it might have been. by $250,000. You got contracts out here for $60 million. You're not going to be in the league for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:20:58 This is just when I'm looking at it now where... Dude, I don't know if he'll be in the league again. This is not going to get him out of there and into somewhere else. This is what I'm trying to say. Right now, it's just getting to the point where it's like if you're in the National Football League, this is just not something that you would want. This is just not a tension that you want at all. Like it just seems like you're not mature.
Starting point is 00:21:21 You know what I'm saying? It's giving off immaturity. And that's the thing. Pass. I understand. But I'm saying maybe a little. Maybe a little like, are you all the way? Mental awareness week.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Because when you start doing things like this, Debo, the thing is when you're in the National Football League that you realize really quickly, they don't need you. They want you until they don't need you anymore, until your ability is not managing what is going on on the all. the field. As soon as that happens, once you start making the $30 million contracts per year, that kind of starts to happen a little quicker, like, okay, are you really worth the headache? So for me, any football team, they're trying to find reasons not to pay guys. Right. He think he's doing this just to the 49ers, no, bro. There's 31 other teams that
Starting point is 00:22:09 are seeing this. And that's when I'm looking at it now where it's like, I understand where you want to, you don't want to be there with the 49ers. But you're turning off so many other people and owners and teams at the same time. Understand it. You want to go to the commanders. I'm hoping that end of the day, if it gets out of the situation, you get there, you go ball out.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I want the best for you to be able to go play. But when you're from the outside, being retired now, looking in on what's going on, it's like this. Oh my gosh, this man is really jeopardizing. The money that you had guaranteed with them,
Starting point is 00:22:43 you could be doing things and talking to your agent. And there's ways where the team is doing things dirty to you. We know you want to get it. out of there. But there's certain ways you can do it to protect yourself still. Still be getting paid your money. Because that's the way. At the end of the day, we know it's not going to last forever. Making another 24 million that they voided. Like that doesn't hurt you right now. I'm just looking at like, damn, I know once a couple years from now, that's going to,
Starting point is 00:23:07 that's going to hurt. And then even if he goes to the commanders, hopefully we get the contract. But if he doesn't, it has to sign for less just because of these actions of off the field stuff of nothing that had to do with his real play. It's like, man, you're jeopardizing so much that you don't really know, because you're mad right now because you're going to get out from the 49ers, but it's making you look kind of crazy. You know what I'm saying? Where we're like, brother, under your baller, you're good,
Starting point is 00:23:32 but the other teams are still looking at this. Hopefully the commanders that you have a relationship with them, so if they do release you, you're thinking, I don't know. I'm just thinking, he's thinking that that's probably going to be the team. But if it's not, you don't turn off a lot of people, brother. and I'm like, dang, I don't know if he really understands that part where it's like, the league, they don't need us. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:56 They find reasons not to pass. And then all of a sudden, you're just out. And it's good because the league going to keep going to keep going. There's going to be trash. There's going to be other players. They're going to be due. So that's why we always want people to get your bag, get paid because we don't know how much longer you're going to be in the league.
Starting point is 00:24:11 And they're trying to find reasons to not get you paid. Joey Porter Jr. It's staying out the way. He's doing everything right. Right. And they're still trying to find a way to pay him, 20 instead of where he's done to get 30. You know what I'm saying? Where is that? And it's, there's nothing wrong with Joey Porter Jr.
Starting point is 00:24:25 He's doing everything right. He's chilling. He's been model citizens, not late. We hear about how he works. But he's already paid. Like you have no, like dude, you don't want to be there. I understand you don't want to be there, but you're being paid extremely well to not be there. I understand the concept.
Starting point is 00:24:41 But I don't think he understands is that what you're putting out there, what you're doing this, you're getting paid. You got a bag. Okay. But you know, want to be there or whatever is going on has fallen apart. Now, if that's the case, you have 31 other teams looking at this, including the Washington commanders that are like, okay, if we do pick him up, who's to say that he doesn't get into
Starting point is 00:25:00 this same position with us? And now he's doing it without. I do not think that he understands the ramifications of what he's doing. And I don't even know, bro, I hate to say it, if he'll have a chance to make up. from this if he doesn't stop. Like, if he don't stop, never. It's not going to happen. He won't have a chance to get back into it.
Starting point is 00:25:26 The easiest way, the best way is like, I think that he thinks that this is, you got to kind of just disappear. Stay away from the social media. Stay away. All you got to do is stay away from it. Don't post nothing so nobody doesn't have any. You're giving people ammunition every day
Starting point is 00:25:41 when we go look at my phone. I'm like, oh, it's like my, he's like, yo, you see the brain out of you? I'm like, yeah. Like, I hope. he can be able to get out, but it's not look good. He looks like... And you're thinking...
Starting point is 00:25:53 You think it's helping you a call? But it's like, you got guys that's talking to him. You got guys as close or whatever it may be that are actually talking to him unless he got a whole bunch of yes men and running, then... But at some point, somebody then came up to you like, bro, come on, man, you got to stop, bro. It's not...
Starting point is 00:26:08 But you know how that... You know how that is, Dibo? When you got... What about your agent? Like, yo, bro, hey, like, people are talking to him and saying, And don't, man, stop. You're going to, you're going to push people away. Yeah, but you're still doing it.
Starting point is 00:26:26 So what does that tell you? Like, it's nobody that is going to take a chance on that, man. Yeah. Like, you are ruining your whole possibility of continuing your career. Like, yeah. We talk about the way the teams want their players to just, how you answer media, questions. Like this is when you're in the locker room, you're supposed to answer stuff a certain
Starting point is 00:26:51 way, turn it all, like not really supposed to be given things that are going to make, stir up the media. You know what I'm saying? So just being able to answer questions to the media on some chill, just being able to handle that is what teams are always like conduct detrimental. This is not showing that you can be not trusted. Right. To be able to go out there and answer these questions in a professional way. Say you get to the commanders and you start not. feeling good. You start not feeling the vibe. What's you not to do this again? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:27:23 Like it's just that in the mind because teams, they have nothing to go on but what you show them. And now when we're looking at this, you got paid. It's not like you weren't paid. $30 million a year. They said you weren't showing up to the rehab treatment facility. Like, I understand, but there's a professionalism
Starting point is 00:27:40 that you have to have from a team that's paying me $30 million. I'm going to just handle it in a way of professionalism to get out. You know what I'm saying? And it just, it could be behind, but this is just so out in the open that it's like, there's ways you go about things. And I would think, like, your agent is not saying to do this.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Like, my man, like, A.B., these grown men, you're going to post what you want to post. So your agent can tell you by this, whatever, I'm going to post it. You know what I'm saying? Like, you still, you're not with these people 24 hours a day. They understand. These people are grown men. You go around them, they might not, might chill. But they got plenty of time.
Starting point is 00:28:17 to do whatever they want and they go. Like you, like you said, you're making $30 million. You think anybody that picks you up or even if they're even wild enough to take a chance and you think they'll give you anything that's close to $30 million? No, you're lucky. You're going to get minimum at best because they're going to be like, yeah, we need to see if this dude actually go prove that he can actually be accountable and not go and do what he has already done.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Like, I just, dude, I find it hard for anybody, for me to believe that anybody, any team, especially if I'm GM, I'm owner that I'm going to take a chance on, on him right now, especially after what I've seen over the course of the last, you know, couple months. I'm just going to, it's going to have to be at a different rate. I'm like, man, we was, you, the price just went down. Like, you think this makes people. Way down. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:11 What you was making? Like, that's just the part that I don't think that they really understand. So I understand. Get back. Hopefully, you just. just got a lot of credibility that you got to build up. It takes one second to lose all the credibility that you build up, doing stuff the right way, doing stuff the right way, doing stuff the right way.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Then you do something turn. Now it's like, oh, man, hold, we got to watch this dude. It takes a long, it takes one second to tear down. You continue to do it, you continue to do it. Like, you know, it's one week is this. Next week is this. Like, it's a continuation. And it's like, yo, where do you go from here?
Starting point is 00:29:46 I don't see anybody taking the check. hands on it, man. Up over here, man, the NCAA Division I Cabinet has unanimously voted to approve its age-based eligibility model. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:59 They say this will grant athletes five years of eligibility over five seasons, notably eliminating red shirt and waivers. According to the NCAA Division I student athletes will receive five years of eligibility if they enroll in college no later,
Starting point is 00:30:18 then the academic year following their 19th birthday. Limited exceptions will be granted for factors such as religious missions, military service, and maternity leave. Schools will have flexibility regarding student athletes who have remaining eligibility after the current academic year. At the discretion of each school, these student athletes can either have an age-based model applied to them or continue to follow the original NCAA eligibility rules. Joseph, do you think this is a good move by the NCAA? I don't know. What do you think about this with, Debo?
Starting point is 00:30:58 I'm kind of up there. I think they had to do something, especially once they started, you know, paying players and allowing, you know, the NIL money, you know, it started to get ridiculous with guys getting six in that, shit, even seventh years of eligibility based on, you know, you know, becoming, you know, they was just becoming professional student athletes, man, like college student nationals, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:25 and using every position that they could to, you know, get stuff grand. And then once they started doing the court ordered, like going to court and getting court order eligibility extensions, like, they was like, yo, we're done fighting these court battles about these rules. So we're going to cut it clean and dry. This is what it is. the rules. There's no exceptions other than this exceptions. Hell, college, they're saying, yo, a college for your 18, 17, 18, or 22, 23 year old. Yeah, no for sure. Like, what, what,
Starting point is 00:31:56 what, what do you expect the 17 or 18 year old kid to do when they get in there and they got to compete against a dude 23, 24, 25 years old? And he's coming out. And his freshman year, or his sophomore, well, sorry, his senior year going into his, you know, his freshman year in college and now he can't even he can't even get a scholarship dude like all these scholarships now hell it's already going to transfers now you're letting a guy stand there until he damn there in his mid-30s like these kids ain't going to be able to compete against this or let alone be able to get a scholarship so that they could get free education at least you know do that so I mean like I said I understand it like they had to do something it's going to be the same thing
Starting point is 00:32:41 when this NLI, how does money go? They go put rules on that too. Believe me, it's coming. Like I said, the downside is that guys who actually get injured and hurt and have legitimate reasons, you know, through that process, they may not get that six year now. Well, may not. They're not going to get. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:32:58 So all that is out the window. And then even for guys that are currently that, you know, they ended up setting it to where now you could do a two years of Juko and then come out. and go to college and still have all your eligibility. Well, for guys who are currently doing that or have started to do that and are in that last year, now if they're coming out and they're getting into college and now they're 20, they lost a year already. So now they only get four.
Starting point is 00:33:28 So it's going to hurt guys who actually thought they were getting a chance to get an extra two years so that they could beef up and be able to compete against these dudes that are coming in there at 20, 21, 22 years old so that they now, leaving school 1718. Now their first year in college is 20. Now they're going to actually be hurt because of the rule. So, you know, I think it's something that had to be done. It will be the same thing that will happen with the payments of NLI deals.
Starting point is 00:33:59 NIL, sorry, NIL deals. And the same thing with how they're paying, you know, college athletes. They're going to put a, you know, some type of stipend on it or a limit like they do. I think this is good. There needs to be rules in place with the NCAA, Debo, like we said. With the NIL coming in, with it being so much money, with finally now players honestly being able to get the paid for their name, image, and likeness, being able to go sign autographs, being able to do the normal see things, you know what I'm saying? Because it's been so messed up for so long in the NCAA, now they really just got to start getting this. So when you said, too,
Starting point is 00:34:38 with transfer portals, with rules with that, with NIL being able to set rules for that, with just everything, just trying to get a grip on the NCAA because it's low-key now kind of starting to turn into the Wild Wild West. And until you get rules, until you get certain things that where everybody, like, 27-year-old just trying to come back into college because now, oh, they get NIL, so I'm going to go ahead and shoot my shot, see what I can do. No, college is a business now. It's also like a diminishing, NBA.
Starting point is 00:35:08 now you're going to have real live legitimate 19 year old this is where you're between 19 to 24 year old everybody's going to be in there kind of the same age figuring out what's going on so i think just with everything with the NCAA stuff just has to be structured so it's not like they can just start doing anything so i think this is just the first thing where you can't be old as hell you can't be having seven years just keep trying to reclass coming back something it has to be structured with 19 years oh okay you come into 20 now you have four years so then there's legitimate rules to now we can stick to this thing and now these are the ages of the people that are in college.
Starting point is 00:35:43 So I'm rocking with it because you have to get some type of control or everybody's just going to try to find loopholes and try to do stuff to get back into the game. Because the money's coming now. Now you can get paid for playing in college. It's a business. So when businesses are like, so that's why with the whole NCAA with college basketball, with college football,
Starting point is 00:36:01 with them knowing now the money is coming in. It's really a business. It's not, they're not student athletes. They're athletes, you know what I'm saying? I do go to the school, but understand, they are bringing real revenue to these schools. They're making real money. So there's going to be rules on a lot more of these things coming. So I'm just laying, like, this is just one of the first many things where the NCAA is just trying to get grip and grasp on what's going on.
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Starting point is 00:41:32 suing the NCAA for the age model. They filed suit in Cincinnati, dude. Like, already, they're trying to, oh, no, you can't do it. No, listen, this is a rule now. You stuck like Chuck, bro. like and that's something else you heard uh i think it was uh what was it paternal one of the uh what's
Starting point is 00:41:53 his name that basketball dude uh basketball coach he's like yo he's like it's like it's like it's I got a team full of 22 23 year old grown man older than the spurs right you know what I'm saying like it's it's literally a little a baby NBA it's yeah it's ridiculous man I don't I don't feel like I don't feel like you know you're giving any of these. these other kids a chance or opportunity, especially if you're letting these dudes play, you know, 25, 20, 20, 20, 24, 26 years old, whatever it is. And, like, especially in basketball, brother, the development from, from, you know, being in football, like, it's out of control, man.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Like, you're trying to get your 18-year-old son to come in there and he's competing against a guy that's 23 and still got two more years left. What, which you think he's going to be able to do? And now that's why you had guys that are like, you know what? okay, this is the new model. I see what they're doing. They're allowing us to get these two years and these guys that took these two years now
Starting point is 00:42:53 to go do Jucco or whatever it is, now they're going to be behind the eight ball and lose that year of eligibility because they thought they were, you know, switching over to what the new program was going to be. And they're like, no, brother, it ain't going to be in a new program.
Starting point is 00:43:06 This is what we go do. It's the Wild Wild Wild West over here. The Wild Wild West is about to get shut down. We're putting laws in place. We're going to go make sure that this doesn't happen anymore because you got guys that are trying to be professional carpenters and athletes. Like, if you go allow me to sit in there and get me, you know, six, seven years of eligibility,
Starting point is 00:43:27 and right now, where they're paying, hell, that could be a whole $7, $15 million somewhere through there, if not more. You know what I'm saying? If not more. And when it comes down to it, they're trying to win college games. just because you're a good or a great college athlete and you don't mean it's going to translate to you being one in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:43:53 A lot of these guys know that. They're like, you know what? I'm a great college quarterback. I'm a great college runner. I know it's not going to translate. You know what? Let me sit in here a little bit longer get what I can and go to the next level later.
Starting point is 00:44:08 And if I don't make it, I did what I could here. I got what I got. I maxed out here. that way if I don't make it here or they already know like, yo, it's not, you know, you're not going to be a generational, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:22 talent at, at the NFL level, you know, Tupo, coldest quarterback in, in college football, but when he got to, to the pro,
Starting point is 00:44:31 it didn't, it didn't switch over. Yep. And if he was getting paid back then, if I was in, man, ooh, we,
Starting point is 00:44:39 he got that bag. We, that bag bag, brough. they was they was they was pulling down championships man left right brother it can't it can't it can't it can't it can't get no better than that man it can't get no war or worse however you want to you want to look at eligibility day yeah it's gonna be good though seven years that's too long how do you get seven years I understand
Starting point is 00:45:06 like you know being hurt again you know the COVID the COVID thing I mean I know they gave you a rare shirt, it used to be it used to be five to play four. When I first came in, it was five to play four. So you got to get a red shirt, but you,
Starting point is 00:45:27 that gave your five to play four. So you come in and say you wasn't ready to red shirt you. You don't lose that year of eligibility. So now, now they're giving you five to play five. That's still more than what it was when I came in. Yeah, I messed up mine and, phew, I only got, I got three to play three.
Starting point is 00:45:49 I messed up. Dude, I came in as a prop. I messed up my prop. So then I had to get my stuff, my grades and degree progress together for that next year. So I lost my red shirt and a year eligibility. So I only got to play three years. Damn. I only played three years.
Starting point is 00:46:06 I graduated early, went to Florida, freshman, sophomore, junior year, out of there. Out of three, Debo. You got, you got eligibility, huh? Don't jump on here and get you a year. You know, man. You know, you know. Y'all need to help. Y'all need to help.
Starting point is 00:46:25 I'm finishing school. I'm going to finish school at Florida. Probably get a little online vibe. You already go be on campus, man. You're talking about going on here, jump on the camp. Debo. I can't jump on that team, man. I'll go hurt the gaiters, have us out there looking crazy.
Starting point is 00:46:39 They need me. They got problems. Boy, we're getting bombed up. If I'm out there. Y'all do got problems. Man, y'all can. No, man, we're gonna get, we back. We're about to get back, right?
Starting point is 00:46:49 Listen, bro. I'm telling you right now. Tim Tebow would have been able to get that NIL. Yenai L. Tebow would have made $10 million a year back in the day for show, at least. Oh, easy. My man was out there pushing the four tourists, 97, four tourists. Tebow was out there, man, just as no drinking. Is that heavier than a ghost?
Starting point is 00:47:12 No, it was like. It was like, or a rain joint. Four doors, though. Look, we got the same thing, got him from point A to point B. I'm just, I was just asking the question, you know what I'm saying? I was, you know, I was just, I was just wondering if it was, you know, I don't know what the weight is on a, on a race through. Yeah, you know, I don't, I don't look at that, the LBS on the way.
Starting point is 00:47:35 You don't, you don't look at that. Hey, you don't even look at it. That's what they say, hey, listen, if you got to ask how much of the cost you can afford to say, I want a white one and the black. That's nice. me take those twice. That's what... See?
Starting point is 00:47:48 Yeah. Yeah. See, yeah, y'all, y'all see Joe coming through. That's nice. Y'all see, that's nice. Let me think twice. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Yeah. I try to tell y'all, man. I've been trying to tell y'all, man. He could buy two cars, but he can't get no... Hey, then you see, you see my wife I was on point today. What did you do? Man, I called them folks, man. I called them folks up at us.
Starting point is 00:48:15 What do? Did they come out what they say? They ain't came out, but they're going to be out here. They're going to be out here today after. Oh, today after. Did they tell you, just unplug it from the wall and plug it back in? They told me to unplug it and they plug it. Wait 30 seconds.
Starting point is 00:48:31 They did plug it back in. Wait till we count the 30. I said, Mississippi? She was like, yeah. I'm like, dang. All right, bet. Listen, Joe, that mansion you got with all them people over there, man. You can't have 30 people on the Wi-Fi at the same time.
Starting point is 00:48:48 He's still in my signal, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You got to upgrade your signal. You got to upgrade your service, Joe. I am, bro. You know what I'm saying? All that great service you got over there, you know what I'm saying? Tank, Tully.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Listen, I'm trying to tell you, Joe, I ain't had to do nothing. All I did was go ahead and just said, you know what? Y'all say it don't work right. But I know the numbers may not. I show it like me, Joe. My numbers didn't show it. They said he's short. They say, they say he's slow.
Starting point is 00:49:20 They say, uh-uh. I said, put me on the field and watch me work. That's what I did. That's what I did with this internet. I said, hey, hey, y'all talking about it's slow. It ain't going to work. Hey, my internet like me, put it on there and let it work. Hey.
Starting point is 00:49:36 You see, that's a good man. And what they say, once they send it in action, they said, oh, man. They said, they said, your view is clear than Joe's view. We don't know how because my internet like me, it works. Man, deep up. You know? I'm just telling you. Listen to this.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Did you see Janus go to the heat? Okay? And that's why I'm wrapping my heat jersey right now, bronze, because it's not about, it's really about bronze stiff. So you switch it home to teams. No, no, no, no, no. It's always bronze. It's always brawn no matter what.
Starting point is 00:50:13 It's bronze. Hold on just for you right now, Devo. Let me show you. It's Braun when he's in the All-Star game. It's Braun when he's in the Olympics. It's Bron in the All-Star game in L.A. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:32 It's Bron in the land. You know what I'm saying? Snakeskin, Braun. It's Ron always in the land. You know what I'm saying? It's Bron. Rookie Brum. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:50 God, God, what you do? You went to that man and stole this shit. And it's... Oh, all that must be... And then it's Big Donald's All-American High School, Brown.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Oh, you went and bought all that shit, you know... Yesterday. Just letting you know, it's not about the heat. Let me see the time. LeBron's the head. It's not about the heat. It's not about the heat.
Starting point is 00:51:13 It's a lot. Let me see the tag on it. So when I tell you this, I tell you that. Man, if I had some money, I'd go get me some Jordan stuff too. If I had some. It's about LeBron James. So I say that to say, LeBron James.
Starting point is 00:51:31 You can stay in L.A. if you want to. You could go to Cleveland if you want to. You can go to Miami if you want to. Wherever you go, Jody's going. That's all I know. That's all I know. That's the damn show. Because I'm following Braun since high school till now.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Braun has been brawning. Like the Browns be Brown. No, no. Braun is the good Brown. The Browns be Browning is winning championship. They're two opposite. They're two opposite. And winning the both points of all time.
Starting point is 00:52:12 As good as the Brown is, that's how terrible the Brown is. always brawning. You out here, don't we ever say brawn is browning. I said browns need to start brawning. Uh-uh, uh-uh. Listen, as good as LeBron is for browning, the browns are terrible for browning.
Starting point is 00:52:34 That's the level of consistency, but on two opposite spectators. My browns, my browns are going to start brawning and wait till it happens. That should know is not. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. I get into.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Oh, my goodness. But Brown start brawning. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Stop it. Yeah, Debo. I'm telling you. It's going to happen. So it's not even about to hear you.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Let me switch in size. I love basketball. But I tell you, Braun James. Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan, still rocking. But I'm talking Michael, Braun James is still playing basketball right now. Hey, you know what I'm going to do?
Starting point is 00:53:10 I'm going to tell Jordan to take away your damn shoes. I'm calling. Michael Jordan. Everybody put Michael Jordan in here texting, put him in a stream. Hey, put him in a stream and tell him Jordan. Oh, oh, um, uh, Joe Hayden, the Jordan post to be representative for your brand is over here talking about you ain't shit. I ain't never said that.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Don't put a word in my mouth there like that. Yeah, he did. Do not. Michael Jordan, I did never say that. He's tripping. Run the tape back. And y'all put some AI in there on his voice. I'll never say, you mess up my Jordan, man, Jordan.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Look, I got Jordan Tatted. I got Jordan Tatted. Michael Jordan, right here, MJ for the brand. Come on, man. MJ, no, MJ know what it is on this side. MJ know what it is on this side. But we're talking about... Listen, here, man.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Like I said. I'm all with LeBron James, A.K. Raleigh-Rolly, West Side. Come on, you know what time? Yes. LeBron Jail. All that. All that. So I'm just trying to figure out what
Starting point is 00:54:16 I'm just trying to think out. There's going to be browning. They go to brown. They go around. Brown messing around. Braham mess around and go to the heat again. For the L.O. I'm right back.
Starting point is 00:54:29 In South Beach, turn. Ooh. Ooh. It was turn in Miami for those four years. Well, I was sad. Hey, man, listen, Brown got to go back to Cleveland. He got to finish it where he started off. Yeah, I'm here for all.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Definitely. Definitely. Brian got to go back to Cleveland. Ron James is in control. Wherever you go, Braun, wherever you go. I'm rocking with the land. I want you to go to Cleveland. Get one more on the way out.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Right there where you started. Go back to the land on the way out. If you don't feel like going to the way on the land on the way out, my man, I'm going wherever we're going, Brian. You just let me know. You just let me know. Straight up. That's how I'm rocking.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Brown still suck. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, we like to thank you for, joining us on this episode of DeBo and Joe, please make sure you like, subscribe and download where you get your show. Yo, come on, man. We will see you guys on Monday. Appreciate the love, same time, same place. Let's get it.
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