Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Tony Romo's Cowboys Regret, Will Eagles Survive Without AJ Brown?

Episode Date: July 14, 2026

NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react to Tony Romo on his biggest Cowboys regret, Baker Mayfield revealing he played through injury in 2025, Terrell Owens saying the Eagles won't miss... AJ Brown, and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline:00:00 - Tony Romo regrets not winning Cowboys Super Bowl07:50 - Baker Mayfield played through knee injury in 202520:10 - Stefon Diggs claims he’s best WR233:15 - Terrell Owens: Eagles won’t have drop off without AJ Brown (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:54 therapy for black girls is bringing it all to the mic. Listen to therapy for black girls on the IHeart Radio ad. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Tony Romo only regrets not winning a Super Bowl, well, not winning a Cowboys a Super Bowl. He said, that's his only regret. He said, the only regret I guess I would have is that my job was to bring a Super Bowl to Dallas and I didn't do it. So that's always sticks with me a little bit because you give your whole body, heart,
Starting point is 00:03:29 sold everything into it. And you just wanted, wanted, and you just wanted that for all the fans, the Joneses, for everybody, for everybody that you're around. And so that only always sticks with you, sticks with me a little bit just because I had the opportunity and wasn't able to do it.
Starting point is 00:03:55 So that kind of, so that part of it, kind of still sits there. Anyway, Joe. You think if he won a Super Bowl, he'd be in Hall of Fame? You think he'd be a Hall of Fame right now? Pop. I mean,
Starting point is 00:04:16 maybe probably not. I don't know. Probably not. Do you think he would be if he won it? Hell no. Why? No, he wouldn't, bro. No, he wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:04:31 I don't, how, listen, why not? Joe, if you want a couple of them, yeah, two of them,
Starting point is 00:04:41 maybe three, three for sure, two, maybe. Like, dude, he, he was,
Starting point is 00:04:47 he was good, but he wasn't great. That man, he made one of all pro. Not one. He made pro, hell, that's voting on by the fans.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Like, anybody gets you slip into a probo. Like, the all pro is hard to get into, you know that. First, win that the whole pro is the one. He ain't getting nothing there, not one of them.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Like, when we played, you know, we played the cowboy. Like, okay, like, we ain't like Tony Roma go, just go ahead and dice us. Like, he wasn't that guy that you was like, oh, man, we got to worry about this, man. He got to sling that thing to whoever he can get it to, it don't matter. Like, like, Tom Brady, man, he goes sling that thing to one of these. All they got to do is catch it sometimes. Like, he'll get it to him. And then, like, just getting the ball off.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yeah. Like, you went to a game with Tony Romo and you was like... I don't even know if I have a... Did I have a place? I think I... Yeah. It's just the stats, Debo. So say, I mean, if he...
Starting point is 00:05:49 I understand the stats. He got the Cowboys team record 248 touchdown passes. He ranked second in the franchise history with 34,183 passing yards. You know, he won 78 regular season. Put him in the ring of honor. Cowboys won't. That's good enough. That's good enough.
Starting point is 00:06:07 For sure. He got to be in there or he should be in there. He got the Cowboys records. Is he in there? Jerry ain't even put him in there. Why? Because he ain't get him a suit. Jerry would have put him in there if he gave a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Jerry would have a show put him in there if he gave him a Super Bowl. Jerry bought them rings. No question. I know that. I just don't. Yeah. I don't think you. I feel you, Debo.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I feel you. When we talk about the hall, we talk about the hall, then that's when it's just, it's not, it's not the hall of good. It's the hall of great. So, like, that's when it's just like, if you can't just start putting everybody in the hall, and that's what makes it the exclusive class. So, like, obviously, like, I wasn't saying what, what, what ballot or anything, but you, then you start, everybody's getting skipped over that probably some, some dudes that deserve
Starting point is 00:07:02 to still get in there. So trying to throw in the Tony Romo when, like, amazing. records. I think Cowboy, like you said, Ring of Honor, obviously. But then we say Hall, it's like, I feel you. It's tight. This, I'm looking at something. It's say, he ain't in the Ring of Honor. But Jerry, but Jerry say he should. Don't he, don't, hey.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Huh? He deserves to be in the ring of office. So who, who, who, who, who do the Cowboys Ring of Honor? The owner can't tell y'all who he won't in his ring. What? What? Jerry can do what? Jerry talking to itself. He's getting a lip-sum.
Starting point is 00:07:45 He should be in there. So he probably doesn't put to you. He's the board, the board that run the- He's talking to himself. He should be in there. Well, you know, I might put him in there sometime. He talking to himself. Gotta be.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Debo. He makes all the decisions for the Cowboys. Brow. Listen, bro. The last person he just put in. Listen, bro. Listen, brother. the last person to get put in to the Cowboys Ring the Hunter
Starting point is 00:08:11 was Jimmy Johnson in 2023. You put Jimmy Johnson in. It took you to a 20-203 to put Jimmy Johnson. They was beefing though. Who? Who was beefing though? Him and Tony Rubble, they got a good relationship. That was, they was wrong with each.
Starting point is 00:08:31 It ain't good enough because why he ain't in there? He said he should be. So he's probably going to put it. Look, it took him. For his coach, that he put in there, they had a little relationship with, he took 20 years,
Starting point is 00:08:43 25 years to put him in there. So now maybe he's just going to take Tony Romo a little bit, like probably, you know, he's going to get in, maybe two years. He could put him in next year. He could put him in any time. He should.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Okay, okay, so hold up. What's up? Dak finished his career. Tony Romo and Dak are up. Who go in? It's time. that got, I mean, Tony Romo got to go in first unless that goes and win the bowl,
Starting point is 00:09:20 then he goes win the ship. Then Tony Romo. Tony Romo ain't never getting it. He might not get it for a long time. But that's what I'm saying. It just depends. Because both of them, they're putting up numbers. They don't have to do.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Yes. And back holds nearly all of them are set for these. Step for the rings, these two. That hold nearly all of them except for these two records as far as passing. That? No, no, no, for sure. That's what I'm saying. Dak is doing everything you got to do.
Starting point is 00:09:50 And he's still, and Dak still got years to play. He ain't got, he ain't got no, he's still got time to play. He still got time to play. And it's not that fault. I don't think it's that they've been like, it's not. Hey, I'm a lot. And Lowe's, I'm saying it. Yeah, he's, that's slinging it there.
Starting point is 00:10:06 His yards? She's slinging it. I ain't even realized. And now we got the weapons he got CD and George. You know, at Prevent time, too. throwing a lot of yards and trash time for you and time all that. You know, it ain't all, you know, just right there. Game, you know, close.
Starting point is 00:10:24 That guy, that still got, yeah, that still got time to play. That got time to play. Tony Brombo, it's over. So he didn't put up his numbers. He didn't did what he had to do. Did what he had to do, man. Listen, you won. You got paid, and then you got paid to a lot.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Paid to talk about the game. Love it. Love it. Super paid. Love it. Hey, love it. Can't stop thinking of it. Yes, sir.
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Starting point is 00:11:33 yards and 41 touchdowns. Last year, his numbers dropped across the board 3693, passing yards, 26 touchdowns, And 63%. Past completion rate. Yes. You think this was a perfect timing on his release of this
Starting point is 00:11:57 information. You bad, look, it's the what have you done for me lately, so he's just letting him know that he still, he was fighting through some injuries. People going to put out bad stuff. So at least he's, on his fight, you're going to try to defend himself
Starting point is 00:12:13 and defend his honor. and saying at the end of the day I was out there and I could have just tried to sit but you know I'm fighting through MCL I'm hurt but I'm still fighting so I'm not mad at Baker and I think at the same time obviously you know how it's been
Starting point is 00:12:28 Baker Mayfield has every right people have been acting like they were trying to from Cleveland I would have hoped they could have resigned him he only wanted probably 25 and then we went and didn't think that was good enough went to Sean then he had to go we went to the Panthers then he went to the Rams end up playing well then he went
Starting point is 00:12:45 to the balance with the bucks. Now it gets to $35 million. Everybody else is signing for these high contracts. He went and proved that he can make, he can play. So now Baker is still trying to show everybody. Look, I did the $4,500, 41 touchdowns. Last year, I'm still fighting for my life. I was hurt out there, $3,600 with 26 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Like, what, my market is still there. He's just trying to show everybody that he's putting his best foot forward because if he didn't do well, it's so easy to shun him. He's 77 on the list, baby. Say what? He's 77 on the list, too. He made the top 100 now. The man went out there and still gave you 30, what is it, 36.99.
Starting point is 00:13:26 With a bad shoulder, too bad ligaments in his knees, a contusion on his bicep, slowing down the velocity of his throws and all that stuff, changed his mechanism, mechanics of his throw, everything. He still went out there. He's letting y'all know, listen, man. I ain't going to just stop on y'all just because I, you know what I'm saying? Because it's a little, no, I'm going to keep going.
Starting point is 00:13:48 They got to drag me off this field. And y'all telling me, y'all can't, y'all, we can't even get close in these contracts. That's when I'm, and they're looking at Baker, like, end of the day, too, they're always trying to find reasons not to pay you. So sometimes this could be a little bit like Baker. They, they're looking at it. This could hurt you.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Like, oh, man, so you might be injury prone. Like, are you sure? This isn't the down. This isn't the. that you're going to start declining now? Are you going to keep getting hurt? You are kind of a little bit smaller in stature. But that's just how the NFL goes.
Starting point is 00:14:23 So with Baker, like, no, I've done what I had to do. I've proven myself, all these other people getting these deals, like, I'm up. And they're just, what is Baker looking at? Baker's looking at these quarterbacks making 50. He's looking at. I want to know what he wants. That's what I want to know. I would think
Starting point is 00:14:43 that he would probably want around whatever Daniel Jones is. I'm like, I know Daniel Jones money. Like, I don't know why that Baker would feel like Daniel Jones should be able to get paid more than him. If I'm just putting it in like, in that.
Starting point is 00:14:56 What did Daniel Jones do? Let me pull it up exactly, but I'm thinking around. Let me see. The highest paid quarterback is that what? 65. Is it 60? What?
Starting point is 00:15:09 60 or yes. No way. It's got to be 60. Let me see. It can't be 60. No, it's not 60. It's not 65. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Oh, my. I need, man, I got to teach my kids. It's a new quarterback. It's an average earning per year for the Patrick Mahomes is 64 per year in the extension. Jack Prescott is 60 per year, Joe Burrow 55. Oh, Lord. Jesus. Josh Allen, 55.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Hey. So that's where he's just trying to get to like, the numbers that everybody. So what did he make last year? Oh, Baker Mayfield? Yes. Well, he's signed a three year, $100 million.
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Starting point is 00:20:25 $3 million a year. Okay. So he had 30. Okay. And Danny Dimes is that 40? He went and Dan Jones. Two for 88. $44 million a year.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So that's. Angola. He won't. He won't. He won't at least $45. Jared golf at 53.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Ooh, Jared Gough might have strong you down. That's probably why they're trying to get you back at that 33. He's trying to get 45. They're talking about, hey, Jared Galk got 53. That's what I'm saying, Debo. Where he's looking at those numbers and trying to figure out where he fits in. In the Tampa Bay looking at it, like, I think they might like. Listen, he didn't give him a deadline now.
Starting point is 00:21:12 He said, if it ain't done by training camp start, it's over with. We ain't negotiating no more. July 28th, if it ain't done, we're over with. And is he still on the contract right now? Yeah, he's just saying you ain't doing no extension. Don't get me a business before I walk into this training camp. Ain't no extension to be done. So you're going to go one more year for the 33.
Starting point is 00:21:32 And then he's just, he betting on itself. Gone. Gone. Okay. That's crazy. And the GM said they ain't in no rest of signing. That's crazy. They must know something we don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:47 They must know somebody. They must know somebody. out there. Unless he's trying to get 55, 50, 50, unless he up at bro, he got to be up at 50 million or better. Probably at 50. I ain't going to lie. Yeah, I'm going to tell you, hey, man, listen, I just did you a three. You did a 3 for 33.
Starting point is 00:22:05 4,000. 333. Boom. And you gave me this. Yeah. I don't know, man. I feel. I ain't going to lie to you, man.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I think, I think they're saying, what is it, looking at something, to Jared Gough. 55 is, 50 and Trevor Lawrence? No, that's what I'm saying, that's what I'm trying to say. That's where I know that. They ain't going to do that.
Starting point is 00:22:33 They're not. They try to. That boy, going to be an unrestricted free agent in 27. If he's looking for that, that's what he's looking for. And they're that far apart. They're probably in that, they probably in that 35, 40 range. And he's talking about 55, 60. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Mm-mm. I ain't go lie to you. Because look, the reason why. Why not too? Because Sam Donald. Fuller guarantee me. Fully guarantee me of 40. I take,
Starting point is 00:22:55 I take, I take, I take, I take, I take, I take, I take, uh, three for 120. Sam, fully guarantee.
Starting point is 00:22:58 And then there's the same. And then there's the Daniel Jones at 44. Then Sam Donald just win the Super Bowl? Yes. Yes. I'm,
Starting point is 00:23:10 that's what I'm saying. Sam Donald, it's Baker Mayfield, because both of them went to the... Hey, Baker, man, if that thing anywhere close to 40, man, uh,
Starting point is 00:23:17 go ahead, John, man, they can walk around and get out here. I think that's where he's looking at, though, because the Daniel Jones was two for 88, he's at 44, 44 a year.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Hey, man, sometimes it ain't good. I know what you're saying, Dibbeau, but when you are, I feel you. How old is? Baker is 30? Baker. I think Baker over time. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:44 31? Okay, so you think you're going to leave here and somebody else going to give you, 50, 60 to come near? Who? He's betting, look, he's going to have a year. I understand what he's betting on, I mean, look, I'm, I'm in the math.
Starting point is 00:24:04 I'm in the thing where, kind of where you are, bet. I'm looking at it from, I got my GM hat on, even though it's white. I got a GM hat on. That's what I'm looking at as GM. Would you sign him for this? Comparatively to what I could get out there
Starting point is 00:24:18 versus what he wants. If it's 55, 60s. No, no, no, no. And that's why the GM is like, we're not in, we're in no rush. No, for sure. If it's, if it's 40. I'm going to work with you 40. We'll go get it.
Starting point is 00:24:38 We go get it. Because I just got you 33. I'm the gym. I just gave you 33. I'm going to bump you up. I know what you did. You was hurt. You struggled through for me.
Starting point is 00:24:48 You did all that. But I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't do you five 60. I'm going on head. And I'm just, you're saying you're going to play it out. Yeah, let's play it out. And we'll figure it out from there. Yeah, I'm like, I'm with you a thousand percent because the 65 number is not, there's no new set in the market.
Starting point is 00:25:09 It's no Trevor Lawrence, Justin Burrow, the Jared Golf, Brock Purdy got 53, Justin Herbert 52, Lamar Jackson, 52, Jalen Hertz, 51, Deshawn Watson, 46, Daniel Jones, 44. And then it's a jump from 44 to Sam Donald and Baker Mayfield at 33. Right. he must not be trying to jump to the 40. He's trying to jump to the 55. That's where, you know. 50, 55, 60.
Starting point is 00:25:36 No, I can't do that, bro. I can't do that. And then you know it's going to be at least two of a guarantee, two years of again. No, I can't do that. I can't do that. I'm going to take my chances like you're taking your chances. Because I just feel like I'm going to be able to get something else out there for,
Starting point is 00:25:53 for a better value. Yeah. You know? Daniel Jones got 44. Yes, sir. Two for 88. Hey, he ain't slumping. He ain't, he's trying to get a little more than that.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Yeah, for sure. He's trying to get a little more to that. Yeah. Yeah, baked trying to get more to that, for sure. See it. Yeah. I ain't tripping. I ain't tripping.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Hey, man, do what you got to do, man. Go ahead and get that money, man. But I'm just telling you, when my GM hat, when it's on, I ain't getting you that money, though. it'd be like that I put my player hat on hey man pay the man that's the agent
Starting point is 00:26:29 that's the difference between the agents and then when the players start like you're looking around you only can get compared to your people that you know what I'm saying the other quarterbacks in the league and what's going on
Starting point is 00:26:40 so the market is the market what they paying is what they paying so I feel Baker and his agent trying to get maximized on how they didn't believe they tried to let my man slide didn't think he'd be nothing and then listen
Starting point is 00:26:52 So, but. Listen, man, you got to, you got to read the room. The receiver they had, he gone. He just left him. Mike Evans. Where? Yes. He gone.
Starting point is 00:27:03 You want me to give you all this money and then you're throwing the hook. I need to help build somebody around you. You have to give me something back, man, to be able to work with. You want 50. I need, I do you for 40. I need, you want 55, 60. I need that 15, 20 to be able to get something around you to catch the ball. No, for sure.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Like, what are you talking about? Ain't that what that boy Brunson did over there in New York When they went out of shit, man Man, New York didn't even need that man Brunson should have been in, he shouldn't even been in New York Should have been somewhere else doing that for another Another team because New York didn't know all that They're tearing up shit and everything
Starting point is 00:27:39 Damn What we got, Dee? Talking about that boy did. Listen, Stefan Diggs Speaking of a recipe joke, Stefan Diggs still trying to find a team as he, oh, Tyreech Hill and others find out how fast the NFL can move. Stefan Diggs believes he's better than every number two receiver in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:28:04 He said, my opinion, I can compete with anybody. You can't name a number two better than me. Joe, you surprised my man ain't picked up yet? Not really. Not really. And I wouldn't Why? Why, Joe?
Starting point is 00:28:25 Because what? Just because, and I hate to say it because I don't believe it's, but I think it's off the field. I think it's just some of the stuff that comes with my man Diggs. What's that? It just comes with him.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I don't think it's, I don't think it's, I don't know what you're talking about. Tell me, give me an example. I don't think it's anything. I think they need to sign Diggs immediately because what he's saying when he's on the field and his numbers, smooth. Y'all see what I'm dealing with, Chad.
Starting point is 00:28:58 What? Y'all see what I'm feeling with? This, this dude right here? What I do? What I do? Joe, what you do is you went 180 degrees. That's what you did, Joe. Because you, you, you, you're messy.
Starting point is 00:29:16 That was, that was, that was a hundred and a, I'm messy. I'm not messy. Okay. I can't be messy. I'm not putting anything or saying anything that would not be something that could be found. You're right. Okay, so you go first.
Starting point is 00:29:32 I got to go first. Here's on Joe with this shit. Come on, Duvot. The man got a lot going on, okay? He got lawsuits or had lawsuits. What? Last year, well, I think the Seth tried to get him. You know, he was found now guilty
Starting point is 00:29:51 on the assault and strangulation charges, you know what I'm saying? That was a whole, that was a whole flim, flammal, wind, bang, you know what I'm saying? Trying to get, you know what I'm saying? You know, I'm saying? You know, they had a whole situation going on there, you know what I'm saying? Like, that, that one right there, you know, that was just unfortunate. Unfortunate. Man was fine now guilty.
Starting point is 00:30:15 That shouldn't, that shouldn't be held against him. But he just settled, he just settled a lawsuit that was out. out there for $10 million. According to TMZ, it was a deal made that they, I guess, worked out to have the guy dropped a lawsuit against him and his brother.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I guess his brother, I guess allegedly was going to put them the dignity on the list. According to, the reports that TMZ had gotten and what dude did you read that TMZ thing? No, I didn't, Deepo.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Well, don't. Don't. Don't. So it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a lot coming with you. And if you look at any of these things that, um, are reported, allegedly,
Starting point is 00:31:16 not guilty and unfound that's a lot to bring to your team and I think that's what you were saying until you decided to just bawled the fuck up
Starting point is 00:31:34 into a potato ball and tuck your head in between your legs and kiss your ass okay okay okay okay just because this one
Starting point is 00:31:48 this is my personal friend This is my personal friend And I didn't get the able to talk to him before Personal friend Because we from Maryland How personal? I know him, Debo. We hung out a couple of times
Starting point is 00:32:02 We hung out before. We hung out a couple from Maryland. Yes. Okay. What y'all do? Kick it. We went to Vegas before for the Pro Bowl. We just kicked it.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Nothing crazy. It's a good time. He's a really good dude from the crib. Know him and his brother. They've been nothing but nice. So we always hung out. And every time I kick it with D. It's been nothing but just love good vibes, nothing crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:25 So when I speak on it, it sucks because I didn't get to talk to him before it. But now when I'm on it, this is kind of why when you are, like it says when Stefan Diggs and Tyreek Hill, they're ballers in the league, but they come with some stuff that's been happening off of the field where they're going to deal with you as long as they can. and then like they want to find reasons not to pay you. And now when Stefan Diggs, I respect them. But when you come in now and then it's like how much you're going to come play for, there's always a younger receiver that's going to come in for the low.
Starting point is 00:33:00 We have, like we talk about now, they drafted my man from Alabama, and we have Roman Wilson in the slot. On rookie contracts, we got Michael Pittman Jr., grown man at the number two. We got D.K. Metcalf, grown man that just comes in here and we don't hear nothing about that. Nothing about them off the field. They're not a locker room problem. We had George Pickens where he's a baller and they still kind of got rid of him, not because there's nothing in, he's done nothing with the law.
Starting point is 00:33:27 It's just more like, is he going to be fitted for the locker room? Like they kind of think if we ended up paying, how would it work? Happy for George Pickens that he's in Dallas doing what he's got to do. But it just shows you that even how much talent you can have, they can quickly just go the other way. If you're not on a roster, they don't have to, like, they're bringing you in. That's just bringing somebody else in. When we say baggage, it's just anything else that pertains besides football, anything besides football.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Because that means there's distractions, and there's reasons where they could be like, no, we just don't need that right now. It takes off everything from what you do in between those lines. And that's why when we talk about, like, I talk about Minka, I talk about Cam Hayward, I talk about T.J. Watt, you don't never hear about them. it's always going to be about them directly on the football field. And it'll be something about maybe they play or because they're hurt or something, but it's never nothing.
Starting point is 00:34:21 You only have to want, he's going to ball because that's what he does. And the only time you hear, if he's hurt, that's when people start acting like, oh, and I'm like this, guys, you don't understand. That's going to happen, but you're not worried about this man doing anything. But if he's healthy, he's going to be the best player on the best version of itself. He's going to be on time. He's going to be a motivator. He's going to be in the locker room, getting,
Starting point is 00:34:43 guys together and that's something that you can't pay for. You don't, that's just, that's just because that's what he does. He's giving you reasons. T.J. Watt is giving you reasons to pay him. Like, you're trying to, like, the only reason why you can say not to pay him is because he's getting a hurt a little, like he's because of the injury, but I'm like, guys, that's just because it happened when he's out here. Everything else is going to be perfect.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Like, that's not, that man's bad. So when we say, like, bringing in, like, Tyree Hill or George Pickens not getting the contract, It's just anything else for a reason for them not to pay you this bread, they can bring in another rookie that's going to come run through a wall. And hopefully they think he's going to ball and be a locker room guy that's just chilling. Like I don't have to hear what he's a high production, low maintenance, high production. You want to do those that are low maintenance. You don't even want to.
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Starting point is 00:35:57 Stream encore on Iheart Radio, crave, or wherever you get your podcasts. Here at the Happiness Lab, we're serving up some hot takes for the summer. Big ideas that just might reshape how you think about your well-being. Like, we've been thinking about the loneliness epidemic all wrong. You can be lonely in a marriage. You can be lonely at a party. I don't think loneliness is actually about solitude. Loneliness is about something much bigger.
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Starting point is 00:39:28 and it's as good as Timothy Shamaulay as Bob Dylan. And I say that with love and respect for both of those actors. And I don't know how many Oscar nominations they give out, I don't know if it's five, six, for best actor. 150% this kid Jafar Jackson should absolutely positively get nominated for his portrayal as Michael Jackson. Listen to I Am Rap Report on the Iheart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:39:55 Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I am Rapaport Podcast. It doesn't matter. He's going to come, do his job, and he's going to leave. And you don't have to worry about what he does when he's leaving because you don't hear about it. You don't know nothing. He's chilling.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Like the dude, is like you just worried about his football and that's the main thing. A lot of dudes when you, it's not bad to have other aspirations and want to do things and want to have a good time. But when you're a football team and you're now, I'm about to pay this dude $20 million a year, I need to know that he's just going to strictly be locked in. Like you can have other things, but what are you doing when you leave here? So that's what I'm saying with like the on the field production is not a question. You're nice. Thousand yards still with 32, a hundred some catches. That is not.
Starting point is 00:40:44 what is in question 0%. What is in question is now like, is something going to happen at the locker room? And I don't, it may not be a problem, but when teams have to bring up that question of what's going on, that he has to dealing with some lawsuits and stuff. So they're like, oh, well, it's kind of easier.
Starting point is 00:40:59 And then he's saying, show me your second receiver. He's making $20 million in a year. You're not trying to come in. You're not coming in on the low. You're not coming in for like a rookie contract. Right. You're coming in expecting that bag
Starting point is 00:41:10 because your production speaks on it. But when they're, finding a reason not to pay you. They're like, ho, oh, oh, like, no, you got to, we don't. And then why would we have to bring, like, Ayuk, you don't, you, they don't need, they don't need, they don't need us. Like, that's the thing that you got to realize. That's way worse, but I understand what you're saying. His situation, he's, he's, he's, he just, he just, yeah, I don't understand that.
Starting point is 00:41:34 But when it comes down to it, when you're off the field speaks louder and has talked more about than you're on the field play, you're putting yourself in a position to compromise your position and actually still be able to get a job as league. And I don't think it's a lot of guys that totally understand that
Starting point is 00:41:57 and they believe that, oh, you know what, they need me. No, they don't. They don't need you. You may believe that team needs you. That team don't need you either because when it come down to it, the league is bigger than any one player. It's been around for a hundred years,
Starting point is 00:42:13 It's going to stay around. You're going to be dead in the dirt and it's still going to be around. The quicker that everybody realizes and it happens, it happens. The league don't need you. You got, you're working for somebody, you're working for a company.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Yes. Like, just feel, start, just as soon as you start feeling entitled, like, being on the team is a blessing. Knowing that when you're walking in there, like, understand, like, you play, Oh, you tell somebody, I understand quarterback for the Cleveland Brown. Like, there's only two of those dudes in the world.
Starting point is 00:42:49 So it could easily not be you. You know what I'm saying? Like, everybody's fighting for this spot that you got. So understanding that, not taking it for granted. Understand it. Like, even if you play for 20 years, there's so much more life after this. And dudes are coming to take your spot every year. So when you start playing in an elite level, you get paid because you're playing so well.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Now, they're ready to replace you. instantly. They didn't even, they're happy that you are good, you know what I'm saying? But now they're planning on, if you don't do it every single season, it's time, it's easy for you to go and don't get that messed up. Nobody needs you. They don't need you. They want you. They'll deal with you, but don't start making it like, hold, hold, get bro out of it. Listen, man, make the number one thing, the number one thing. The main thing is the main thing. You are here to, you are here to play this game, man. Go ahead and play this game, get your money. This is your job. This is your job, man. Okay. Now, when you go and you work for McDonald's, your job is whatever it is to flip them burgers,
Starting point is 00:43:52 man, and keep going, you're there to make that money and keep going, get the fries hot, whatever that is. And whatever your job description is, that's what it is. You're not there to be like, oh, I need to be personally treated this way or I need to have more freedom of this and that. No, the job description is this. this is what you get in that job description. When guys start taking on their own liberties and going too far with it, and now you get outside stuff noise, your personal stuff now is coming in to the actual office.
Starting point is 00:44:21 It's coming into the lobby of McDonald's. McDonald's, your personal shit that came in there to McDonald's, now y'all are in there fighting, whatever it may be. They end up talking about, but they're not going to talk about the McDonald's worker because you're in a higher position, so you've got to understand. You know what?
Starting point is 00:44:34 It's a lot more to come with that. Like, no. that's just what it is, brother. So keep yourself out to news as much as possible and keep your play as high as possible. And like you said, the second thing is the money. He won a bad. He ain't going to go nowhere for no cheat.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Now, if he was just saying, you know what, I just want to get in there and, you know, the low, I can't even, I wouldn't even expect him to take the lower. You know what I'm saying? But, hey, I don't, what's going to get? him in there. I don't know. You know, so we'll see. T.O. said he doesn't see a drop-off with A.J. Brown leaving the Eagles. I mean, they got Devon. He said, I mean, they got Devante Smith. He's always been a number one guy, even when AJ was there. He could have easily
Starting point is 00:45:28 been ride receiver one at any game. So again, he's going to show that leadership. He's going to bring those guys along so I don't see any, any drop-off. Those guys are going to be fine. Hey, go. He said he don't see any drop-off. What you, what you, why do you think Tio said that, man? Because everybody knows, it's going to be some drop-off, man. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:45:55 Because what did they get to replace it? Nothing. Okay. I'm thinking that Tio, it's a little bit of, you think he's saying it because he said that he was the best receiver to ever play for, for Eagles? I believe it might be a little, no drop off. No drop off. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:46:16 But, yeah. Devante was the one, has always, could have easily always been the one. They just gave you the one, basically what he's saying. He's saying it without saying it. Because I think he, what he's saying too is the, Devonte, even with the leadership part. He's saying, you could, Devonte's not going to be honest. The leadership is still there. he's saying, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:46:39 Like, yeah, he's not going to be out there, you know what I'm saying, on the sideline, like telling the quarterback, like, ah, come on, what's going on here? He's going to be galvanizing the troops. Devanté's really, he's a work pale guy. He's one of those dudes you don't hear nothing about Devanti Smith. He's not going to say nothing good or bad. He's chilling. So as far as, like, leadership.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Yeah, I think it was, I think it was a little, little slide in there with him saying without happening. It's got to be a little bit sly because, you know, if you're losing the talent like that, it's instantly not better. You know what I'm saying? Like, you have both of them. Now you only got Devante. That's the drop off. If you have two number ones, that makes your team better.
Starting point is 00:47:22 That makes that room. I would think better. I think he's saying, if you're taking away one, though, he might be saying, like, the non-professionalism or the lack of leadership, the not trying to galvanize, that could probably bring it up with Devonte just being the sole one in there trying to get them right. I don't think that. I'm saying production. Just going on him, him,
Starting point is 00:47:41 AJ being able to go do his job is that drop off period is not going to make them better. I understand what the galvanizing of the troops, you can't galvanize that much talent, in my opinion. So I think it was a little shot. Okay. I'm 100% with you. I think it was a little shot, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:48:02 We ain't going to miss nothing. He's gone. We already got a one. We had a one. He's been on one. Could have been a one. is a one and him going, we ain't, we ain't going, not, it's not going to be any drop ball. I don't see any drop off.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Yeah, it's a little shot. I'm saying, best to ever do it, ever did it here, all that. Yeah, yeah, we all, everybody, come on, man, you know, T.O. was over there. Stop playing, bro. So, he's, you know, without having to say, he said it without having to say, you know what I'm saying. That's, that's, that's, that's, it's kind of the easiest way to do it. Joseph, hey, we were around. coming off right here.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I guess we got the World Cup. It's down to the semifinals this week. We got France and Spain. Three o'clock today. Tomorrow at three. We got England. Argentina. And the World Cup final will be played Sunday at three.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Yes. Joe, did you see that home run derby yesterday? Yes, I did. Oh, my God. You was geeked. What? Bro, I'm sitting there watching it, bro. And, you know, I ain't even really into like baseball like that.
Starting point is 00:49:12 I ain't going to lie to. But I'm like, you know what, man, the home run derby. Go let me pop on there, man. He is up there, bro. He at eight. He had one out left, right? So you get to keep popping that thing until, bro, four straight, full swing straight.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Boom, boom. I went back to back. He was waiting on the right pitch. And, hey, listen, so I'm watching him, right? I'm watching him, and he do the little, he'd get the bat, right? He do the little swing, he swing that thing around and then put it on the shoulder. I'm like, him, he ain't swinging it around and put it on the shoulder. I'm like, hey, I'm like, he got to swing it around and put it on the shoulder.
Starting point is 00:49:49 And every time he did it, bro, don't last out, boom! I'm like, oh, don't hit, don't swing it on this one. He ain't swinging it around and put it on, you know what I'm, I'm superstitious. I'm like, hey, he ain't swing that thing around and watch that thing around and put that thing back on the shoe. I'm trying to tell you, Joe. I'm like, hey, he ain't swinging that thing around and put that thing back on the show. I said, oh, he's about to bomb that bitch. Boom.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Joe. Debo. Oh, dude. That was nice. Really was sick. He's sitting there. Watch he's like, is he about to do with what? They was up there.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Dude, that's why I wanted him to bang because they was yelling and screaming every time of one ain't going to the stands. They were cheering. I'm like, man, y'all hate me. I'm like baseball, please. Come here. The baseball guy come alive. Give it to.
Starting point is 00:50:30 I'm like, come on. Yes. Boy, that came, man, listen. That boy came through on that thing. What was Walker? Yes, you did, bro. Right on time. And that's how you answer the bell.
Starting point is 00:50:43 That's how you answer the bell, Debo. That's how you step up under pressure. Right. I ain't never seen none like it. Actually, I guess up until that, well, I take it back. The guy from Philly, nobody had hit a home run with one out left until he had did it. And then he came back the next round. He banged four straight one to win it.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Shout out. Hey, welcome. Shout out. Yes, let's go, baby. Let's go. Look, here, we will be going live from Fanatics Fans Base at New York. Yes. We'll be live streaming.
Starting point is 00:51:25 But if you're attending, we'll be live from the home team village stage at 2.30 p.m. on Saturday. Okay. Not Friday. Pull up. Pull up. Saturday. Where's that,
Starting point is 00:51:42 Debo? So we ain't going to have a show tomorrow. But we will be on live Saturday. 2.30. Yes, sir. Catch us. If you at Fanatics Fest in New York, me and Debo are going to be there.
Starting point is 00:51:58 So we will see you there. Come on, Evo. We will see you there. Please make sure you. Like. Like. So I get Debo on you. You got to stop.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Download. Subscribe and downloading. I don't know if they're listening to that bar. How many likes we got, Joe? We only got 81 lots, 162 people in here. What is y'all doing? Hit the like button. They don't like us, Joe.
Starting point is 00:52:20 They want to see us get canceled. They don't even know if we don't get to 100 by a certain time when they're going to cancel. They don't even know it, Joe. We got like three weeks left. They don't even know it. It's been real. It's crazy, bro.
Starting point is 00:52:30 It's been real, though. Look here, man. Thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe, man. You know, we might only have a few left, but we really appreciate you. y'all, man, look here, man. Make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get the show.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Yes, sir. See y'all. We're going to see y'all Saturday. Let's get it. And we out. 150 years ago, they were hunting us down to kill us, and now they're hunting down immigrants to deport them. This is First America,
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