Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe react to Bills firing Sean McDermott, Texans COLLAPSE vs. Patriots, Bears fall to Rams

Episode Date: January 19, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to the NFL Playoff Divisional Round, where Matthew Stafford and the Los Angeles Rams defeated Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears, Drake Maye and the New England Patriots knocked off CJ Stroud and the Houston Texans, and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline:00:00 - Patriots beat Texans26:09 - Rams beat Bears42:20 - Broncos beat Bills54:50 - Play or Fade presented by PrizePicks (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe and download wherever it's possible. Joe. Yo, what up, Debo?

What are doing today, man? Bro, I'm doing great, my brother. I'm doing good. Watch some football yesterday, some crazy, crazy, crazy games. I was fully vested. I was, because it was just good ball. Good ball. Good ball.

Great ball. Good ball. I mean, it's just exciting. You know, when you, like I said, man, when you, when you ain't got a dog in the fight, man, it just feel good, man. You feel free. I don't care. You could really watch.

You could really watch the action. Yes, I want to see what's happening. Yes, man. Let's jump on over here, man, to the Patriots, man, Patriots in Texas. 28 to 16, brother. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, bro. It was, I don't know.

It was good starting off. You know, just get the ball. They get out there. First down. Houston don't give them nothing. Second down. I'm just going to say three, nine, because I cannot pronounce that dude's name to save my life.

He made a nice play. What he got to be? Immediately on the next, on the next play on the third down, he made a nice play on Diggs right there, keeping them the six. They punt the rock back over. Houston get the ball. First down, they hit the little play action.

CJ kind of throws it behind Hutchinson. Brother, brother, that's, yes. And that's, that was the, of the game. It was wet, it was raining. But like, from the rip off the first play, I'm like, okay, CJ, like, the team wants to get them started, get them going. And then, okay, this is not looking good too far. You know, it's just one throw, man.

It's just one throw, man. Get a man, let it play out, man. Let it play out. See, you jumping too far ahead, man. I'm not. Second down, Mark's got him in a hot little three and the third down. CJ hit, I think it was Kurt, like right on the money. He just dropped the ball.

That could have continued. That was in the heart. Yes, but that's what you could tell. Does that what I'm saying? Yeah, no, no, for sure, for sure. They got to punt the rock back over. They punt the rock back over to New England. They do like a little screen right there.

I think Steve's picked up about nine. Second down, they handed to him. He gone twanky. Yes. Twanky. I think the Houston, what was it, like 35, 37, something like that? That's when my man Stingley, they made him have to get to the edge. You got to set the edge.

Yeah, you got to get up there. You got to put it on it. Like, you can't, you can't wait. Texans, and they end up, you know, locking them down on that first and second down. I think they dropped Henderson for like a loss of two on the first one. And then the second down, it was three nine again. He went and got it. He attacked it.

Dude, he almost made Henderson fumble. That's why he couldn't shake loose because he was sitting there trying to make sure he was holding on to that ball. Yes. They get to third and 14 and make his digs for 13 yards, brother. Great catch. Great cash. Biggs out there. Hand time.

Fourth and one. Fourth and one. Wow. They're going for it. They're not playing. They ain't just go for it. They got all of it. Got all of it.

Like, you got to hook that hand on that back. You got to try. Yes, he was there. He was a good defense, but that's a great pass. But you got to make sure if you're not there to make the play, you got to get him on the ground. He actually tipped the ball, bro. He did. He did. He didn't hook his back hand, though. That's both. You know, you got to do both because if you miss that, you got to be able to tackle. So that's why sometimes we're getting trouble for spinning them. But I'd rather spin him then he'd catch that thing. You miss and he'd go all the way to the crib. Plus, they wouldn't even caught it because your hand got on the ball. No, no, for sure. You'd have been good.

You're not saying. 20-year-yard touchdown now. They upset him. They upset him. Oh, Texas get back out there. I think it was Marks. I think he got like maybe two before they knocked his helmet off his head. You know what I'm saying? They was hitting out there all weekend. That's why they were stinging. Everybody was getting smacked.

Yeah, second down was incomplete. I don't know. I think that one could have been picked too, though. Yeah, I think it was third and eight. And CJ, he made a, you know, he made a great play, just dumping it right there to Shouts to tie in. Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, he'd do something great here and do something good.

here makes it makes it a good throw here makes a great throw it and then he had throw something short here soaps went on ahead picked up I think was 42 to the New England 27 and then I believe they fought started they ended up the next play I think C. Jerry he was he was under a little bit of pressure right there again he was under pressure and made a nice throw like the next play it was like just it was just incomplete I think they ended up getting to like a third and six and CJ hit Kurt for, what was it, 10? Plus, they got a face mask on that one.

They ended up pushing them to like the six-yard line. So its first, what is it, first in goal or something like that in New England. I think the next play, they ended up stuffing old dude on the run. Second down, Schultz, I think he got maybe five. And then it was third in goal, and it was Marks. up the middle for a nice touchdown. But bruh, the fullback, the D-Lignment did not have his hand on the ground yet when they started to play.

They got them for a legal shift. They pulled it to third and six. It's incomplete. Mm-hmm. And having to settle for the field goal. It's three to seven. Yes. That.

Yes. That was probably one of the, that was their best drive. That was like they had a couple drives. That was a good one. Yeah. You can't. Yes. So Patriots get back out there.

Houston's defense do what they do. Nothing on the first down. I think they batted down the pass on the second, third, and ten. They sack, fumble my guy, but they don't recover it, dude. You got to drop on that. You got to drop on that. Even if you get it at the 15-yard line, you kicking it back, it's going all the way back to the one. They recover it.

We lose so much field position. With the defense, like that's what I'm saying, defense's hooping, balling. But when your offense is like, you got to be able to try to, like, they need everything. So defense was doing all of they could, but just the extra fall on the Brock.

Right. I know what they're thinking, though. They're like, yeah, the office. We're trying to go all the way. They're having trouble. They've been having trouble. Mm-hmm. You know, we're trying to go ahead and get this

and take it to the house. They don't get it. They end up allowing them to punt the ball. Yes. Houston get the rock back. I think it was first down. Ain't getting nothing. Second down.

It was just incomplete due. It was just pressured all night. But like I said, then there's times where, you know, he's under pressure and he makes a great good throw. I think it was third and ten. He's under pressure again. And he makes a great throw to Higgins for nine yards. Like great throw, great catch. Like he put it where it's supposed to be.

Oh, for sure. Like, they go for it on fourth and one. Chubb picks up the first down. Yep. And then the next play, he is picked. One knee equals two feet. Dude, that was, that was fire. I ain't gonna lie, that was great catch.

Carlton Davis out there showing ball skills, and it was just an overthrown ball. Like, that's, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, what we said before, like, if he takes care of the ball, they got a chance. You can't. They can't. They ain't got a chance.

Because your defense is out there fighting for their lives. So they're going to continue to fight, but you just got to, don't punt the ball. Drake May wasn't balling out like that at the beginning. The Houston defense was hooping, but he wasn't trying to give them the rock as much. Yeah. Yeah, pass get the ball back.

First time they gave it to Stevenson. But then May scrambles on what looked like, I guess, what was it? A miscommunication play. Something. Something happened. He gets, takes off. Give me that.

Yes, dude. He went perfect onto the punch of that ball, dude. Houston's defense fighting for their lives out there, Debo? Yeah, they recovered the ball. I think they started, what, New England, like 25, something like that? Man, Houston comes out there. I think the first down, C.J. was decent. He hit Higgins for five.

Marks ran for four on the next one. That put them to the third and one. Yeah. Such push was Stouffer. That get them two. They got a first down. Then I think it was marks for another six, followed by a no game on the second down. and then I think it was third down.

CJ hits Kirk for 10. That's how they're supposed to do it. That was a nice corner route. Ball was a little bit behind, but Christian Kirk was able to catch it for the touchdown. Right now, it could be 1410, but it could. It could. 10-7.

Mm-hmm. Pats get the ball back. First play. Yo, that should have been picked. Yep. That should have been picked. Yep. He could have had that.

Boys, I'm... Yeah, he could have had that. He could have, for sure. Yeah, they get the third and seven. Patriots get the third and seven. And May scrambles for that thing. Mm-hmm. What do you get, like eight or nine, something like that?

Mm-hmm. They stand up. Yeah, they stand up. I think it was the next play. They stuffed them, nothing. Second down, I think it was just thrown short. I guess they could have made that one when you look at it. If he hadn't thrown.

on that one short. They could have completed that one. And then the third down, they just tried to bomb on them. Boy, that was a little bit. He had him by a step. Mm-hmm. Had him by a step on that one, for sure. Yeah.

It was a long foul ball, but they had to be. Yeah, long for a foul ball. Nobody, nobody remembers it. But I was like, I'm like, oh, I seen to be caught four off the line. I'm like, oh, my goodness. And you saw him, he was praised. Like, yes, okay, that's good. He threw it too far.

He knew that could have been crazy. Yeah, for sure. They punt the Brock back over to Houston first play. They tried to do the little play action, but New England was ready for it. They press the CJ, and he makes a bad decision to try and throw it. It is tipped up in the air. Jones comes down with it, and it proceeds to do what Houston was trying to do. He goes 26 to the house.

It's to the baya. To the house. 14. 10 now. Do we throw this out of bounds? Do we throw this away? on that one right there we can't just throw it up in the middle of the field

we gotta do something i think i think that's one of those situations i don't know where the running back was i ain't go lie or wherever whoever he was he was trying to throw it to but on that if i'm here i'm like yo i'm just going to have to eat this one like or do one of them side arms down the side like around like i'm talking ducks where it looked like you're trying to get it there did and throw it like to the ground. But then if you don't get it past, I don't know. The line is coming.

Okay. Yeah. It's a lot. Yeah. It's a lot going on. Yeah. It's a lot that's going on with that, man. Houston get the ball back.

First down, they drop marks for a loss of two. I think it's second 11. Yes. CJ hits Hutchinson, right? Yeah. He got to catch that, though. It's a little high. It's definitely a little high.

I'm trying to look out for him. But at the same time. No, no, no. He hit Hutchinson for the 12 yard. in the first down. Okay, okay. I think it was Marks. The later, the next play, they dropped marks again for the negative one.

But here is where you're talking about. Yeah, it's picked again because, yes, he got to, he got to grab that. He got to say, let it fly off his hands. God. Yeah, I ain't going to fall in for that one. That's the one pick. I'm for sure going to put that on the receiver, but still we got to catch that. Tips and overthrows, they're going to get picked.

Yeah. Pats get back out there. Houston put out the fire again. Brother. Second down. Firefighters. Yes. Firefighters, brother.

They sack May for a loss of eight. It's third and 13. I think they only picked up five. They got to punt the rock back off. Houston gets the ball. Now, the defense of New England says, okay, we could do this too. Three straight plays, bro. They was on with CJ, man.

Yeah. Three straight plays. They got to punt the rock right back over to New England. First down, it wasn't even that much. It was only like three yards. Then May. his booty, he takes it 25 yards to the Houston, what, 28, 30 yards or something like that. Then again, I think it was a Henderson for a lot, little hot three, followed by May to booty again for 18.

I think it's first and goal at what, the seven or something? Yo. This was the best drive of the game. Power catch. Power catch. Mad time. I know. That's what the power catch look like, bro.

That's what I'm trying. That's what I'm trying to take. That was a great throw, hit him in the hands, and bang, bang, you knew he was going to get hit. And you see when he went to the ground, he was going through his hands and he still held on to it, bro, he's not going to touch the ground. I'm going to palm this ball and get smacked and move it. Like, no, I got this.

That was just a great catch, bro. And still held on to it all the way to the ground, controlling home. The whole way. Yes. 21 to 10. That's what I. I think the first down ball was just tipped. They end up false starting. It's second and what, like 15.

They end up getting the first down because of the defensive PI. Then I think Marks immediately after that was dropped for like four or five. It's second and long. And C.J. His Higgins for 16. Nice. Nice. Nice. And he proceeds to follow that up by getting picked off again.

Yeah, bad ball placement. Just, you took the sideline scrambling right there, a ball behind, that's getting picked. You got to throw that to the sideline. Inside, a lot of them balls, inside, behind, those are going to get picked. And that just looked too easy. Looking right at them, just, I'm like, come on,

maybe we can't have that. Yeah, I think it was, past it ended up, you know, they ended up getting the rock back. But again, Texas. Fire out. Firefighters come out there. Three and out.

Three and out. They're just going back and forth. Now, Houston get out there. New England do it three and out. I think pass get the ball left with like 36 seconds. He's trying to score more points. Dude, May a sack fumbled again. Will Anderson.

He's trying to create some havoc. He's knowing he's seeing what's going on the other side. We got to score. And he tried to fall on there between his legs. Right. He at least tried to fall. follow now. Get the Rob.

Yeah, man. They end up going for fourth and 11. Hell Mary, interception. Yeah, half in 21. At the half time, I'm looking, like this Houston's defense, y'all deserve to win. Y'all deserve it. Y'all are fighting for your life.

You gave up a couple of plays, but then at the same time, the Patriots, when they do make plays on their defense, it's man time. Like, it's tight catches. It's in the window. Like, they're not just giving it to them. Not Patriots won't get what they got. Yeah, Houston starts the third quarter.

Second and eight, I think C.J. hit Hutchinson for like 23. And then it was again, he hits Hutchinson. I think it was like for five. Second is six. I think it was Higgins, right? Higgins for eight. First down right there. I think Chubb ends up going for like seven and two on.

first and second down, put him to a third and one. Then Stover comes in. They do the Tust push, gets him a first down and 10. I think they had like the 15 or something like that. First down marks, he goes for eight. Next play, they stuff him for nothing. It's third and two. It's incomplete.

I think that was the one where he needed to put the ball at the outside again, bro. Yeah. If he had just placed that like that, that could have been a first down. Instead, they settle for the field goal. What is it, 13 to 21 now? Yes. At least they came out the second half fighting. Yeah.

And that's the point. Third down. Welcome. Money down for them boys. May is sack fumbled again. Will Anderson, Jr. Yes. He's crazy.

They get the ball back at what, the New England 30 or something like that? Mm-hmm. Houston, get back out there. CJ is sacked on first down. Yep. Then he makes a nice fast. Yes, placement, all that. Higgins right there.

I think it was, what, for 12 or something like that? They got to a third and six. He scrambled for the first down. That was 10 right there. And then second down, my dude marks, adds more problems to it. And he fumbles the rock. Give me that.

They stripped that joint. Yes. They're ball searching. Yes, all night. Like, both sides really, to be honest with you. Mm-hmm. Like, all night. Both defense, they recovered.

They're out of control, bro. They recovered again. Houston's defense, they come out there. They put out of fire three and out. Hose is all over the place, man. Quit. It's 50 alarm fires. We got 50 stations out here.

Them boys out there, they putting all kind of fires out. Bro, easy work, though. It was like, I don't know. Houston get the rock back. I think the third and seven, they ended up getting the PI, which pushed them to, what, like the 35, 30, 40, or something like that in New England. And then first down, he dropped that. Yeah.

Yeah. Again, like, they not help. They not helping. He ain't helping himself. He ain't helping himself. They ain't helping him. They ain't helping him. Come on.

He gets sacked on the second down. Mm-hmm. It's what, third and 13. Now they only pick up five and they have to settle for another field goal. If they got touchdown instead of field goals, it would have been a lot closer than what it was, brother. Brother, if they went to, yes, they went out there looking crazy, throwing the ball to the other team and catching the ones to hit them in the chest. Yes. It had been, you know what I'm saying?

A whole lot simpler. They was killing themselves, bro. Yeah. Pats get the ball. ballback first play, May hits it with as a hopper for 14. Then he's sacked, though. Stevenson, I think, only got like two on the next play.

They had third and long, and they get the defensive PI putting the ball at the Houston 38. This is when I knew it was game time. These dudes are on man time because Stingley is all pro. Stingley is that deal. So if you want to throw it at him, go ahead, try your luck.

And then they didn't throw it at him the whole game, but then when they really want to go get the money, they threw it on them, got the PI. You know what I'm saying? And then we can keep going on to this drive where it gets to the nitty-gritty and booty and the best player. Oh, pro.

That catch. For the marbles, one hand. One hand, and everybody drops the- wet, rain and all that. It's rain snowing sleet, and you're getting sticky fingers now in the end zone just threw the drain out. I'm about to take his gloves for some glue spray or something.

Something got to be on them things. I'm got to be on them things, boy. Man, them dudes couldn't catch nothing. This man out there spider-webbed it for the game winner. 32. Touchdown. It's 28 to, what, 16 by the end? Yes, bro.

And Houston, they get forced to three and out. But the killer came when the past got the ball back. They got the ball back with like almost 13 minutes left in the fourth. Mm-hmm. And they started leaning on those. Yeah, bro. They ain't score. Houston stopped from scoring, but I think they left lose up almost.

Mm-hmm. What? Five, six minutes or something like that by time. Houston got the ball back. It was only like four or five, 45 left. Yep. And they punted to rock on fourth and 18. You understand why they did that? Do you, would you have did that?

I think I know why they did it. They thought their defense had a better chance of getting the ball than the offense did. And it was going to get a turnover. They was going to create some. If they run the ball, we're going to strip it. If they pass the ball, we're going to pick it. It was just, I believe. even our defense and we're going to get the field position.

Hopefully we can get something down there. So I guess what I was doing. Because, I mean, they weren't doing you no favors. So you like, let's go out with what we know. I know our defense at least going to try to, you know what I'm saying, stand on business. Yeah, yeah. Basically, after that, game's over with by time they get the rock back.

It's a minute or two, whatever it is. Game over, brother. Yep. Final plot could say, great play by Splame. Buddy jumped a little early for it. He put his hands right through great defensive play, but game was over. Yeah, game's over. Yeah, you just, I mean, you can't turn the ball over that much and expect to win the game.

That's just, it's just what, now, look, now, New England now, they're going on. But there was, they was a little sloppy too now. Oh, no. Yes. Yes. Yes, that's what I'm saying. I like shit because they're not unbeatable. You know what I'm saying?

Like, they show. There's kids all in the armor. Like, we didn't shoot ourselves in the foot so many times. Brother, they turned the ball over five times. And the only points they got off the turnover was the pick six. All the other four turnovers, they didn't get a field goal or a touchdown. Like zero points off turnover. It's the only reason they got one because he ran the joint back from the interception.

So for me, I'm looking at it like New England. I like Drake May made less mistakes. He still fumbled the ball. He still was getting stripped. sack Houston's defense was going bananas. But how when they needed to make plays with digs, you know what I'm saying, making those plays, we caught those touchdowns, booty one-on-one versus stingly. Like when plays needed to be made, the Patriots made those plays.

Like, they didn't overly go crazy. But when things need to be made, when touchdowns need to be scored, when first downs need to be had, when drives need to be sustained, they can do that. You know what I'm saying? No, at the same time, the Patriots defense was creating turnovers. They were kind of leaning on their deep. When I was watching the game, I thought, I was like, Houston's playing so good. They could almost take a knee three plays in a row and then punt it.

You know what I'm saying? Like, let's see if the Houston's going to mess it up. You know what I'm saying? And our defense is playing well. I might have thought about that after they got up. I'd be like, yeah. Bro, we are. Don't hurt this, man.

Just don't. Because, man, every time he's backing up, Drake, May, you know, Will Anderson's going to strip sack you. You know what I'm saying? Somebody might get a pick and try to run it back. So Houston's defense was unbelievable, but the Patriots offense. offense made plays when they had to. Drake May wasn't just turning the ball over all the time.

I mean, he did. There still was kinks in the armor, but when they need to make those plays, digs, I go with that digs, bang, bang eight catch. And then I go with that Stingley versus booty one-on-one fade ball for the marbles when he one-handed it. I'm like, those two 14, those 14 points were legitimate on that defense. That was like, okay, yeah, y'all came to play. I didn't see Houston wasn't able to make those plays.

Yeah, man, CJ, they're saying his passer rating was a 28. They said his passer rating, if he had just spiked the ball, every play would have been a 39.6. That ain't good, man. That's actually crazy. How do you eat? Hey, matter of fact, halftime, would you have said him? No, I wouldn't have sat him. Yeah, I ain't a lie.

I wouldn't, I wouldn't decide him either. I wouldn't decide me. No, that's my, I would have just tried. I didn't give him all the call. I'm like, CJ, what's that, bro? Like, we didn't, we didn't believe in it. He probably gave him all the confidence I possibly could, the complete opposite of sitting in him. Because now he already is seeing a little bit of ghosts.

He already is a little fluster. You're seeing him like when he threw them, he's like grabbing his own head. I'm like, no, no, brother, this is not the time. We need you. So, like, definitely I would have not sat him. I just would have tried to give him as much positive motivation as possible because we're in it now, brother. I'm in the, we're here. You know what I'm saying?

So tighten up, baby. Yeah, I'm with you on that. I can't sitting down. I can't, especially like in that situation, I don't put all this pressure. I'm putting all this pressure on the backup. Like, yo, come in here and put your cape on. Yeah. Nah.

He's over there freezing. The backup is going to come in at you and look at him. Yes. He's been sitting over there the whole night. In the cold, baby. He's going to look spoo. Me? No, not me.

Yeah, I can't, yeah, I can't do that one, man. No. Rams, but her. Beat the Bears. Overtime. That game. That game. Listen.

It shouldn't even been an overtime game. We'll get into it. Anyway, man. Bears get out there. He just hit the quick little. Okay. Yeah, yeah. That'll work.

What time is, yeah. But actually, the first play where the Bears got out there, where Williams did that little boot play action for that 34? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I thought it was about to get something, man. They ended up holding them down. I think they got to like a fourth and two right there at the L.A. 21. Would you a kick the field goal there or would you have went for it?

I had to kick the field go. I ain't going to lie. I have to keep the field goal, too, bro. It's, but it's... I got to get the points. I got to get the points. It's the playoffs that they're so hard to get. I got...

Yes. It's just so hard to get. I'm like, then we y'all leave with none. But I'm, I can respect the person that's going for. Yes. But for me, I'm like, I got to be more careful right now. If you work, you're a genius. If it don't, eh.

You work, huh? You're looking crazy. Caleb throws a ball high. It's picked off. It don't really matter. You know, they was going to give it up on downs if it was incomplete anyway. Actually, the pick actually made it. have to start off further back.

You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. But then L.A. goes out there. There was it 14 plays, 85 yards. For a test-down, I think they used up almost seven minutes a clock. Second down in Longs were Stafford's money. Stafford hit Puka, first second and 10. The next second and 10, I think, was Stafford to Whittington for 15,

followed by a nice little six-yard run by Williams. They got to a third and three. Puka picked that up for five. The next third and five, I think it was Williams for six in the first down. Then second in goal, Williams finished it off with a four-yard touchdown run. Seven. Oh. They made that look a little too easy.

Hey, they made it look easy. I thought it was about to be one of them games where I'm like, oh, man. Oh, come on. Come on, Chicago. I know y'all not going like that. Bears get out there. said, all right, we got an answer. They said 12 plays 80 yards.

We go use up almost six and a half. They said second and long, we're going to let go. Oh, Caleb hit burden for 11. Then we're going to go on that third and one. And we go get two. We go get two with my man. That's it. Second of 10.

We do second and long, too, Caleb said. You know, boy for nine. Swift would pick up 13 on the next one. Mm-hmm. Third down. Then Loveland. That man, Lovelin. I was hooping two.

23, straight to the LA 24. What's your boy, Meganai? Manungai. Manungai. Manungai. That boy goes for 15 to the LA 9. Yes up. Running people smack over.

Smack over. Get out the way or get under this. Get out the way or get stepped on. And then boys keep doing the brawn, too. They end up going for it on fourth and three. Yes. Again, give me the points. Look, look, give me the points, but, man.

But you made it. You made it. Eight. More than eight. Touchdown. After they scored, after they scored, now I'm a little bit more, now I'm a little bit more ready to go for. Now I'm a little more ready to go for once I'm done. After I saw them drive it down, I know we need seven.

Yeah, seven, seven. It'd be a bunch of back and forth action then until I think the bears got the ball with like two, 50 left in the first, at the end of the first, at the end of the four. first half. Started at the 39. Caleb hit, what is it, Oduums for 27. Oduze.

Oduzee? Oduze for 27 to the LA 35. They would then stall out. 48-yard field goal would put them up 10 to 7. Yes. But it was a whole minute, 10 seconds left. L.A. gets the rock starting at their own 20.

immediately Pooka for seven then Higby for twinket seven well that tight end I think that was a good ad catch Mm-hmm Second and six Williams goes for 14 And on top with that unnecessary roughness

Again but they would stall out They kept more trying to go to the end zone Yep They settle for 32-yard field goal But it's 10-10 tied up at halftime boys get back out there in the third quarter just go back and forth the whole third quarter when it come down to it don't know real scoring start well don't know scoring at all happened until the rams get the ball in the fourth quarter with like 1450 or something like that left in the in the game start they own nine nine forty five plays brother 91 yards stop playing immediately they had to rock the williams he go four and seven they get to a second and long.

I told you Stafford was doing them on second and long. Parkinson, 35. Mm-hmm. 35, they get to a third and six. It's Stafford, the Pooker, for 13. Second and 10. Second and long. Second and long.

Adams, he get the Adam for 12. They go for it on the fourth and one at the seven. With a puka around the corner for a hot two. I ain't see that one coming. I ain't go lie. He don't get that many handoffs like that. They end up giving him a first down. First down, Williams runs it in, five yards, 17 to 10.

Boom. Money, money, money. But the bears get it back on their final possession of regulation. And they start at their 50 because of a trash punt. Trash punt. Second and 10, Caleb hits Loveland for 18. the very next play, Swift, he runs on off about 12.

They get to the fourth down. The fourth and four at the 14th. This play should have never happened for a touchdown. What is your DB doing? What is your DB doing back there? My man is putting the body on the body and I'm not going to lie to you. That tight end is way bigger than him.

So it's not like a, and the titan did a good job. It wasn't a push off. But he knew. It wasn't a push off. He just, He saw the ball and then he, bro, I'm telling you right now, what's the big word? He did a little extension, but there's not a pass interference.

It was a great. No, it was a great play. It was not even close to it. No, I'm saying, not even close. I'm saying it was a great play by the tight end because he seized the ball and my man is known to keep, you got to be in between him and the ball. You know what I'm saying? So he's going to be in front of him.

So once he has that and he sees the ball coming, he's able to extend, push him off a little bit, and then go get the ball. The DB was just hella small. You see he's hoping for the push off because I'm like, he's standing there in between them. To me, it looked like he misjudged the ball as soon as it left his hand

and he stepped up. And when he stepped up and saw that it was going to go go further than what he thought he couldn't get back. He definitely couldn't get back. He got a little push. It was not a good move. It was not a good move.

Yes. Like, yo, I'm going to be so far up under you, boy. You got to stay. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He needed to get the P.I. Listen, I'm going to be on you tighter than a pair of. or fruit of the loom.

Yes, I'm trying to tell you. I feel you. I feel you. That's a tough. No, not Boxer Breeze. We're talking tidy whities. I'm beyond you. That's a big ass tight end, brother.

That's a big ass dude. I've been in that situation before. And it don't feel like you're getting pushed, but you're getting pushed. Ain't no push, though. It was, ain't no push. Ain't no push. And that's what I'm saying. It's not a flag at all.

That was beautiful. Agreed. Beautiful. But I'm saying, as me being a DB, you've, feel like you're getting pushed. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, ain't nobody to tell me. I'm not getting pushed.

Oh, you said, you said it don't matter what happened. You feel like you're getting pushed. It feels like you getting pushed. I don't care what nobody say. My man, if you ask him, he got pushed. That's a fact. Hey, no, it was like, yo, you ain't see that? No.

You didn't see that? You see Lake, everybody's running over there. I'm looking. I'm like, maybe he did get pushed because he was so far away. I'm like, somebody showed the play from the end zone. That's what I'm. Maybe he did. You see how swole number 85 is, the tight end for the bears?

He pushed my man's, but it was so clean that's not a push. That's what I'm saying. When they say, that's a PI, I'm like, no, you blatantly two-hand extended. He pushed us because he swore with his arms, with his elbows or whatever. Just got some room. He just gave itself some room. Yeah. I feel pushed.

You know what I'm saying? Okay, okay. Spread out on me. Digger, you push me. Man, we got it going overtime now, man. I think it was L.A. that ended up having to, well, I say having to take the ball first now because that's what you do. You give them the ball. Oh, yeah.

For sure. Because if they score, man, you could give yourself all four downs to know. Yes. I got a score. I got a score. I got a score. If I got a field goal, I got a field. I got a field goal to make sure I get it all done.

Yep. And the bears come out there and say, uh-uh, three and out. Get up out of here. Uh-uh. None of that. None of that. None of that. Chicago get the rock back.

And he think it was... First down. What's dude's name? Matt? 12 yards he hit him for? They ended up getting to a second and 13. They picked up nine of it. Then on the third and four,

Caleb scrambles head down. I thought he was about going to get put to sleep. See, my brother, look, he slowed down and embraced. And they hit him in the shoulder pad, too. So it wasn't as much. It wasn't as much force. Because I thought he got hit right on top of his temple. But he slowed down.

Bro. He took it. He did not drop that chin. Dude, that was, hey, I don't know if he, maybe he, you got a hitting lift right there. Yeah. Just fall into it. Yeah. Like that, you could have end the game right there.

You could have end the game right there. He'd have been like he had been a concussion protocol. Yeah, he for sure could have been in the tent. But he hit him in the shoulder. Yeah. They end up getting to, I think, was a fourth and one. Williams picks up three.

And then it's second and eight. He has picked off with curl. What do you think of that play, man? What do you think of the throat itself? I think that he's thinking that the, he's thinking DJ Moore's going to cross the safety's face. Do you know what I'm saying? DJ Moore's thinking he's going to go more pylon,

more angle behind him over top of him, beat him deep. He's thinking he's going to cross the safety's face and catch it like a more of a, over, like more of a dig instead of an over. So I think he was right there in that time when Caleb saw it, he's looking at the, DJ Moore looking at the safety, and he's looking at him, he's like,

I'm about to take it over top of him for the Tud. And Caleb's looking at him like, no, just cross his face for the dig. And he threw it for the dig, and he kept on going. So I think it was a dude, like, I could have sworn I seen a receiver like within like five yards of that.

I think he might have just thought it was going to him. Oh, oh, you think DJ just gave up on it and didn't think about it? I think he gave up on it and, thought it wasn't going to him. Like, and, like, it's another receiver right there that I saw. I can't think of who it was. He's running like a go ball.

And these DJs coming from the other side. I don't know. I just think that, well, when he was doing it, it looks like. Well, it don't matter, baby. It don't matter. He picked that thing off. And that was the one where L.A. get the rock back. They started their own 22.

Mm-hmm. Deckon is six. Staffer hits Parkinson for 15. Then the great pass, catch, confirmation. Devons. What was that? Boy, did you see that that was a dot? And that was a drop.

All that cold I was talking about, they came playing the cold. Ooh, they just, they just slapped me in the face. That looked like they played. That looked like it was warm outside. Hey. That in the dome. The catch with it, too, though. You know how cold it was?

Yes, yes. Damn. The tip. Like what? In overtime, you've been sitting over there cold for the last three hours. Yeah. But then that's what I'm trying to say. When it gets down to the next third way, on the third and six.

Yeah. On the third and six, why, I understand we're going zero. I understand we're trying to disguise. You're leaving Pooka. It's third and six and you're 12 yards off Puka. Pooka. You know what I'm saying? Like, you got to drop down.

You got to make that a little bit closer. Listen, man, that's poker. What are you talking about? 16 to the Chicago 27. Uh-huh. That ain't really tripping right now. They're trying to get some more, but not really. They get to the fourth and seven.

They bring in 9-2. They bring in 9-2 big body. They brought in big-body, big-bodies. 42-yard field goal. To send them. to send them home. Send them home. Keep them home.

2017, LA. It shouldn't even been an overtime, man. No. That, that, yeah. Why you think it shouldn't have been overtime? Man, he should never, that,

bro, he's running back 20 yards. And he thought a hell Mary, bro. Yeah. Come on. He did. He did. That was a ball.

though, bro. That was a ball. Like, you know, like, the turnover, like, the biggest, the biggest one is just the one at the end of the games, really would have come down to. Because the other one, one of the other ones was, what was it, the fourth and two, and they would turn the ball over anyway if it was incomplete. Yeah. So, like, that one right there at the end, that, that, that just sealed it. No. I think, like you said, the great teams, great games is going to be the little stuff. You know what I'm saying?

like, forward on fourth down there instead of kicking the three. Then you don't go to overtime. Like you said, you're up. You never know the situation. So, and then the picks, like Caleb, on that last, when we do have the chance on that last drive, that miscommunication, you don't know if it's over or under, two people in the same area. You just can't, you're driving it down.

You just need a field goal to win the game. So when you're playing two good teams playing versus each other, things going to happen here and there. So it's all the little stuff that's like going on. It's like every little play. could have been a defining moment. So I'm looking at it like that fourth and one, early on in the game, when they ended up going for it, they didn't get any points, they didn't get nothing.

And then when they do had that last chance to drive to go, get it. After they got three and out, now you got the rock. All you need is a field gold. We don't have to do nothing crazy. We're trying to throw a deep over route. We still got time. We still got another down. If it's not there, let's just live to get a field goal.

You know what I'm saying? So I think Chicago play really, really good. The Rams play good. It was two good teams playing. So when the good teams play, it's the little stuff. It's little situations. Devonte Adams caught that joint. Drag that foot.

That was a beautiful ball. That's what it comes down to, like, those little, little plays they made and the Bears didn't. And you know what I'm saying? So that's how I thought they were able to win that. Yeah. Yeah, easy. Easy.

The little stuff add up to big stuff. Mm-hmm. And I think L.A. done sick to not being able to play in the cold weather. name. Facts. That was, I don't know how much, how much colder it could get. Yeah. Yeah.

They proved it. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Now, the overtime, Bronco bills, 33 to 10. Bro. I just want to go straight to the, I just want to go straight to the catch. Straight to it. It was other stuff that happened. Yes, we know this.

But. that catch, what do you think, what would you have called that? Pick. You would have called it a pick. Picked off. Okay. Picked off. Now, why would you have called that a pick?

I would have called that a pick because you have to, when he said, when they, his hand was in there also. So you got to be able to take that and finish it through the ground. So now when they both end up hitting the ground, we don't see what's going to. on rough. But you can see, you can see that when his knee is on the ground, he has control of the ball. Now, revert back. Hold up, listen, listen, listen.

Go ahead. Back to us. I'm great with the call because he helped us. But exact same thing. Aaron's ball is tipped. He catches the ball. He has control of it as his knee touches, as his knee touches before he's down,

before the dude's down, he rips it out. But his knee is down, just as, just as Cook's knee was down. He ripped it out. They get the ball, but ours is called down by contact because his knee was down and he still had possession. When Aaron caught the ball, did he make more of like a football movement? No.

You see the ball get and then come down, and then he bring his knee down. get ball, ball comes to him. As he's going down, he grips onto the ball, his knee touches, he's gripped to the ball. It's not pulled in. Dude has that ball just like he does, but they're saying that was control. They're saying that was control, and they caught him down by contact. Ball gets pulled out literally, exactly almost the same way as far as the timing of the knee down and the ball being pulled out.

his knee was down he wasn't on the ground Cook's knee was down he wasn't on the ground but then they're saying he got to control it through the ground but you just did the same thing same situation and you said his knee was down he had it was the exact same thing I believe me I've been looking at these side by side of those

did you see did you see the Devante Adams joint which one the one with Devante the one that he's they said that he caught the ball the one in their game that they just had which I would have showed it to you But so, let me just say, do you think, so I, I'm just saying, if you're calling that one a down by contact, you got to call that one a down by contact. This is what I'm saying.

It's a lot of, it's, it's so much gray in the catches. It's so much gray. It's the catch to a football move to, like, then that's what I'm trying to figure out. Because when I'm telling you, some people, I know they watch the Devonte Adams' cap. And it's like he caught it. You know what I'm saying? Knee, he did like one step, knee went down, and then they roughed it. It was the same thing.

They picked it off too. And they called that a completion by Devante. It's just too much great. Did he catch it? If your knees down, it's a catch. The football move and all of that is kind of, I think that's what's making it. Oh, I know which one you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. I got you. Yeah. Same thing. Same thing. This is the only one they didn't call that was down. There's only, I know, that's what, yeah, okay. Yeah, if the only reason why I was saying that,

because when Cook's this catch, it looked like his hand was also in there. So I'm hearing when you're saying that he had control of it, but I'm like, the DB's hand was still in there, so I don't know how much full control it could be. That's what it was on the other one with, um, with us. That's why I was worried that they was going to say he ain't had control because dude's hand was there with his hand. But they were saying he had control.

It wasn't moving, they're saying. Brooks wasn't moving until his knee hit the ground. After his knee hit the ground, he started going down. That's when dude was able to get the full and come out. You can't officiate, and now three, I forgot about that, Adams, now three different situations. You officiated two the same way and then one totally different. Yeah.

I think they need to simplify. They need to find a way to obviously simplify Debo, like you said too, because there's so many different ways where they could try to say, if he has control and his knees on the ground, do we want to start giving it to the offense? Because I'm like, look, if it's not down, if it's a catch, catch, take them all and be able to get up with it. Do you know what I'm saying?

I understand what you're saying. So if you played offense, you would want it to be a good. catch. Hell yes. Yes. But, like, you know, Joe, Joe,

Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe McDermott just got fired this morning, bro. See, that's wild.

That's wild. Well, possibly over this. Think about it. If he's still coaching, they win this game, he's definitely not fired. He's for sure still got his job.

Like, they just fired, bro. You know what they say? So, ties go. to the receiver. You know what it is it. Ties go to the receiver. Right.

But what I'm going to say is, tie, ties go to the receiver. That wasn't a tie. You showed what you were, what the precedent was. You did it with, with, with us. But yeah, I don't know. It's, yeah. You did it with, with, uh, with Adams. The Adams one, the Adams one, the Adams one, is one I'm saying too. I'm looking at that one. And when I'm saying, if they called the Cooks want to pick, the Adams one is a pick. Do you know what I'm saying? Okay.

No, no. You got them two right there that you're saying is more similar to you. Cool. Yes, yes. You got two different outcomes. I know. It's foggy. They need to do something where it's not this foggy.

I'm with you. This man doesn't got fired on this. 100% he that got fired on this. He for show got fired on this. Fired on this, bro. He got fired on this. What is he? What he got?

Made the playoffs the last? what six, seven years, something like that? I don't know. Like, he got fired on this. They said, you know what? We don't care that you done made the playoffs. You're supposed to get us one of them back here. Okay?

You're supposed to get one of them nine two right there, back there. Okay? Nine deuce, you feel me? You're supposed to give me one of them back there. And you ain't got me one of them. Yep. You didn't want me a playoff game every year for the last six, seven years whatever it may be, but that ain't good enough.

You five hundred in the playoffs, but that ain't good enough. You know what he said? Yeah, you 66, 67% winning. That ain't good enough. We want a championship. And you know what he said. Bye-bye. They know what he said, bro.

You're not playing against. You don't, you didn't. It's not far that you had to play. You don't have that one. It's not versus Patrick Mahomes. Now you went against the Broncos and lost the game. Hey, you got to, hey, you got to get out of here. We don't care about.

Got to get out of that other stuff you're talking about. Your coat and lead. We get into a new stadium. We ain't trying to take this with us. That's crazy. Dude, that's crazy. I think he's a good coach, too, but who are you going to get to come in there and do? Brut, this dude went from 2007.

He had a losing season in 2018. He was 9 to 7, 6 and 10. 10 and 6, 13, 3, 11, 6, 12, 3, 11, 6, 12, 4, 12, 5 this year, 13, 4 the previous year. God, he won a playoff game. Sorry, he didn't win a playoff game in 19. He went there and got kicked out the first year. But from 20 to now, he is at least won one playoff game each year, two in 24 and two and 20.

This man has had the last one, two, three, four, five, six, six. years and he has won one two three four five six eight games he's won eight playoff games in six years and they fired him they got him out of there debo eight and i think eight oh dog eat dog world that is wow right they're going to have to see what it is on the other side because i mean hey man i hope I hope he make a pick, pick. Like, I don't know. But if he went and fired that man and then you turn around the next year and you don't even make the playoffs, that's going to be bad. You don't even get a win.

You got to at least get a win to even be. To even make sense. Okay. Right. To even for it to even be okay with what you did. because he has got you at least one in the last six years. They got you. Two, four, six, eight in the last six.

Like, you ain't going to get him that and how you, how you, how you, how you, how you, how you, how you, how you, how you, how you, how you, how you, that did. Listen, they, they said, listen, we don't care about none of that. We don't care about none of that. The goal here You got Josh Allen We need to win ships That's it That is it

We don't need nothing else Outside of a ring And if you ain't go get us that Bye Don't care what you want No Man brodie How about you feel about my man

Bo Nick's ankle though Hey That was crazy Listen Listen It just happened after the Like I'm like Hey they said

the second or last play or whatever it was. Did he the second of last play? Hey, bro. I thought they was lying. I don't know, man. It's going to be some trouble for them boys over there. Man, it's going to be backup, buddy. Yeah, yeah.

You got to look at it. You got Knicks out. Now, defense. The boy just gave up like 183 rushing, almost 300 passing. Who? And no Knicks. Nope. I don't know.

Ain't like New England don't run the ball with. Man, you got Drake Me. New England out there looking like. Still got the two front runners out here. Still playing in the playoff. He's one of them. Hey, to say it. Brow, it's going to be a hard road to hold.

It looks like it might be New England. Dude. Championship Sunday, buddy, Patriots, Broncos. You know. Seattle. Mm-hmm. With no Knicks, I don't know. No Bo Nick.

I don't know. You already know I'm going with that. No Bo. No Bo. Joe. For show. I got to go Patriots. Obviously.

No Patriot. I got a Patriot helmet around here somewhere. Hold on. Hold on. You ain't be all right. See? Nobody. But you know.

I ain't like you, though. It's all good. I ain't like you, though. Yeah. I ain't going to pull out my Patriots helmet and be like, yeah, let's go Patriots. No, you just going, okay. Not yet. Not yet.

Oh, yeah. Super Bowl week, you're going to be acting funny. Super Bowl week. Hey. Go boy. Go boy, Diva. I don't blame you. I don't blame you.

Hey, man. Welcome. Joe, you know what time it is? Yes, sir. I'm a player fade presented by prize. All right, Joe. We let the staff do this one right, baby. Okay?

they've made our picks for the national championship game. And we have to decide if we're going to rock with this, if we go play this, man, if we go fade this. So here are their picks. Oh, yeah. Hey, matter of fact. Oh, yeah. Hold up.

We went four for four. Oh, you. Hey. That, Debo. Hey. And our man, CJ hit us with 11 y'all. We needed 10.45. Hey.

Hey. Hey. Hey, four for four. I knew what I was doing, brother. I knew CJ was going to get 11. You cooked. You could. You could.

You could. You could. You can't do 10-5. Got to be 11. Got to be 11. Okay, okay. So now. Probably was going to get picked.

You did that. I told you Alan was going to run for that thing. 66. Hey. Hey. Shout out, D. Hey, I ain't going to lie. I didn't think Stafford was.

to get that close. Man? Look, he started throwing it in the elements like he was in the dome still. No question. No question. Let's get, let's get to this national championship game, man. We got Beck for less. Under two.

We got. What is it? Backer. The team likes, yeah, Charlie Becker. We got Becker. They got him for more. 59. They also got it.

Yeah. What is that Shere? They got him for. Mm-hmm. For rushing or receiving T.D. He's going to score. They got him getting into the zone. And they got the quarterback throwing...

Rushing and receiving? Or Russian? Or it's a rush... It's a plus. So it just... If you got to get one of them, one or the other... You sure? All right.

I think so. Yep. One or the other. Fernando. And then the quarterback, he's going to throw... He got to throw... He got to throw... He got to...

One and a half, he's throwing two tuts. Yeah, he's going to throw one to Charlie, and he throwing one to the Lodger. Going one to Charlie in. Yeah. Joe? Yes. Yes. And they got Indiana winning because I know they put back under in Miami.

And you from Miami? Who. The quarterback. I think he might be. Mendoza. Mandoza. Oh, no, I don't think Mendoza can be from Miami. Yes.

Mandoza is Miami. He at home, bro. He might, I'm with it. He might throw. Wow. No, no, no. And whoever we got, they got Indiana winning. Indiana, they got Indiana winning the joint, and I do too.

I'm with you, Joe. I'm going to play this thing, babe. We're going to play that thing, too. I'm going to go play this thing all day, every day. So, y'all make sure y'all download the app the day and use the code. Debo, Joe. Yes, sir. We get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup.

Debo, Joe. Yes, sir. Price picks. Come on. Let's go. D. Bo, you don't want to people's of money last week, man. That's what I'm talking about.

You know what I'm saying? I do what I could do when I can do it, man. You know what I'm saying? It looks like we got some super chat, man. We got some super chat. What we got here? Rico's under, Rico underscore. Rocha.

Donated $2. Debo for Stillers' head coach and Joe for D. That sound good. That sound good. That sounds good. It's a joke. You know what they know when they say that?

We're going to give great teaching. They're going to get coached up. That's for show. Yes. Set an edge. Whop a man. The corners will be tackling. Corners will be tackling.

Linebackers will be filling. Yes. D-line will be standing strong. And they will be neat. D-Lime will be able to plant their knee into the ground. Drop a knee. I learned that for my man. What's my man?

My man, ham. Big ham. Big ham. Hamps say he got a drop the knee. Hamstring. Casey Hampton, for y'all that don't know, hamstring, you got to drop that knee. Camstrang, he's a whole two of them just,

grab two people. Do like that, Hampton be sitting there holding two of them, like, uh, right here, sitting on a line of scrimmage with him, talking about, um, and then as soon as they get four yards, he would turn around and be like, what the hell y'all doing back there? They not got four yards, come on. And I'm up here holding two.

That's what I'm telling you. Oh, man, dude. Hamper's funny, bro. Hamper is so funny, bro. Look here, man. I want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like and subscribe and download the show. We'll be right back here tomorrow.

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