Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe react to Steelers hiring Mike McCarthy!? + Seahawks & Patriots advance to SB LX

Episode Date: January 26, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to NFL Conference Playoff Championship Round where  Sam Darnold and the Seattle Seahawks defeated Matthew Stafford and the Los Angeles Rams, Drake Maye and the New England Patriots beat Jarrett Stidham and the Denver Broncos to advance to Super Bowl LX. Later, they react to the Pittsburgh Steelers hiring Mike McCarthy as their next head coach Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline:00:00 - Intro02:24 - Steelers Hire Mike McCarthy21:20 - Patriots beat Broncos46:50 - Rams beat Seahawks (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's who you named after. I just like, damn, that fucking I swear. But listen to the Questlove show on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm your host, Dan James. Sorry, James Debo Harrison. The braces be killing me out here with my phone.

Joe hated. Yes, sir. Make sure you like and subscribe and download wherever you get your podcast. Joe. What's up, Belder? How you're doing today, baby. Man, I'm doing great today, Debo. Honestly, though, we got snowed in.

That snowstorm happened. It was a little bit less snow than I expected. But that's why I'm in a different spot. I got snowed in at the in-law's crib. So I'm down the stage. Oh, you got snowed in. I'm snowed in right now. Y'all know nothing about how.

how to deal with snow around that way, man. Listen, bro. I embrace the snow. I had to snow blow my driveway four times, bro. Just to keep up, bro. I think we got about 12 inches, bro. Like, I'd get done. As soon as I got done, I'll be back out there two hours later.

As soon as I got done, it'd be already an inch. Yeah, by the time I'll pull it back in. You was doing a good job, man. I went and tried to get the electrical joint. So I was watching my neighbor across the street. Oh, I went and got full. I had four gas. Four gas.

Yeah. Yeah. You have to. Poor grass, man. I went to hit my neighbor next door on the left and the right. You know what I'm saying? Good Samaritan, Debo? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I had to do the lady on the right. She's a little older. Her and her husband, they're a little older. But, you know, I guess that's something that I would want to have done if my mom or dad, if he was still around, was in the same situation.

So I went on ahead and did that, even though I ain't going to lie, I'm not too, I'm not too fond of him. But, you know, my neighbor to the left, he's a good dude. He's good people.

So you got to go. Yeah, he's good people. Yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure. Look here, man, everybody take care of everybody. You know, do on to others as you would have others do on to you, right? Make it the world just as such a better place, D'Boe.

That's what I live by. No question, man. Look here, brother. The steel us done high. hired. Oh. Mike McCarthy. I guess it's still what, fourth coach since 1969. Joe. Yeah. How do you? They hired them before you could get to do your interview. You didn't even get to do your interview. That's crazy, right? That's wild. That's right. That's wild. That's moving. How you, how you feel about this hire, Joe?

I got a lot of different emotions about it. So let me preface my comments by first saying, I don't think Mike McCarthy's a bad coach. Do you know what I'm saying? But in the particular situation of the Pittsburgh Steelers and what we're looking to do, moving forward from Mike Tomlin stepping down, and it being a new time,

me looking for a new regime, him coming in is just so similar. he's older. He's 63 years old. I'm thinking that we're trying to get a coach that we're going to have for the next at least 20 years. When we get him, I'm like, okay, he was with A-Rod back in Green Bay. Long time ago, A-Rod was four, I'm talking about four MVP A-Rod, not just normal A-Rod, with DeBonte Adams. You know what I'm saying, with that offense, if he had Jordy Nelson, with nice receivers out there being able to do what he had to do, he still came up with one Super Bowl in Aaron Rogers' heyday when he was the best version of himself. So now I'm like not trying to knock it. If we want to have him come in and do it with a young quarterback.

and you think he must have to breed him, what he did with that press guy. His offenses have always been pretty good. So I'm not knocking the coaching situation. But if you're the Steelers and I'm wanting to move forward, I'm wanting to come with a younger guy that's coming to bring a whole different vibe. And I'm, because the fan base, I feel like they were ready.

They were ready for a real turnaround or real move. But this looks real parallel. It doesn't look like a move where it's like a new reset. It looks like kind of, just normal. So, and when this comes, now I can't blame Coach T. I can't blame, I don't know, Omar. It's like, who did these, who did the move? You know what I'm saying?

So that's why I'm looking at it like, like, Debo, I mean, it looks like the Rooney. He must have, he made this pick. It just looks like status quo. He just seems like he just doesn't want to shake the boat too much. When I think right now it was a time, it was time to shake the boat and go get you a young head coach and then get you an offensive coordinator, you know what I'm saying, then make some,

Rick, some real moves. I think this was more parallel than what we needed to do. How do you feel, Debo? I'm surprised. Okay. I'm disappointed. Nah.

Let me take that. You know, you take your time, Debo, because I know you got a lot of feelings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not, I put this, bro. I don't dislike it, but I also don't like it. So, you know, I guess I am disappointed.

It definitely, I definitely wasn't expecting him to be the next head coach, especially with the last three hirings we done had since, what, 69? Yes. So, like, the only thing I could think is it was the safe play. Like you said, he is a good coach. you know, he's proven, you know, but like, I'm white, like, I'm with you, I'm like, why safe? So I go, I go back and I look at it, bro. And when I look at it, you know, since our last was the two hirons that we had,

which was Bill Cowher and Mike Tomlin, Mr. Rooney was around, heavily involved, and I believe he had a greater understanding, you know, of, you know, what was needed. You know what I'm saying? I'm talking about, you know, Mr. Roney-Dan, yes. You know, former ambassador. And he had a greater understanding, I believe, of what was needed because I believe he learned everything that he needed under his dad, the chief. You know what I'm saying? And he soaked that up.

And right now, we don't have anyone there that was really greatly involved in those last two hirings. And you add that with the fact that they were definitely caught off guard by Coach T. Coach T stepping down. And, you know, you heard him himself, he was, he was, you know, looking to run it back maybe next year and then through the process. So I think, you know, a little panic set in, and they ended up going on with the safe choice. And I think that's part of the reason why we held on to Mike for so long is because it was the safe choice. You know, we know we're going to be in contention for at least, you know, a winning record and a playoff berth. But that's not the standard of the Pittsburgh.

still is, bro. And I feel like that's what it has become right now. And we're so afraid, dude, of that rebuild work that we're doing anything in our power so that we don't have to look like that or look like we're doing that. Now, again, if you go back to when Cowher was hired and you look, we did a rebuild. But they didn't call it a rebuild. So from 98 to 2000, we had consecutive losing seasons. 97 was the last season we had that was a winning season until 2001.

Okay. And between that, those seasons, it was an internal rebuild by Bill. And Mr. Rooney saw. that. And in 2000, when everybody was calling for Mr. Rooney to get rid of Bill, he said no, because he saw the vision. And in 2001, they ended up going 13 and 3. Okay. And that process from 97, where they had a winning record until their next winning record in 2000, the starting offense only had three players that was on that roster from 97 to 2001 when they had their next one. And then the defense only had two players. So that was an internal rebuild, but they didn't say it out loud as a rebuild. Okay. And that's what he did. That's what Coach Tomlin. I mean, sorry, that's what Coach Coward did in those years between that 98 to 2000 time frame. Okay. Now, in that same,

process, they changed coaches. You look at 1995, Dick LeBowell was the D.C. in 95 and 96. Then he went to Cincinnati, and he was a head coach. Okay. Then in 2004, Coach LeBowell ended up leaving Cincinnati or got fired, whatever it was, and Bill ended up bringing him back as D.C. in 2004. Now, in that same process of changing those players, it was coaches in and out too. And Bill was getting coaches that he felt were going to be better for the team.

He was getting players that he thought was going to be better for the team. And he did an internal rebuild. Now, 2004, we went 15 and 1 and then won the Super Bowl the next year. 2007 came. They hired coach. They hired Mike. Okay. And he won in 2008, won the championship.

And then went again in 2010. Okay. Now, like, that was a real. rebuild, bro. And I would have like you, I would have liked to see someone younger that came up. You know what I'm saying? Maybe, you know, this is a situation where I'm just trying to like be positive about like maybe he's coming in as a, you know, four or five year guy. Maybe he's hiring a great staff. Maybe the OC or DC is going to be one of those people that could eventually step in, you know, hoping that everything goes well.

With him being, you know, with him being the coach. I can see what you're saying. Go ahead. Because I can see what you're saying about him being like a middle, a middleman. Like the coach T. firing kind of shocked him. You know what I'm saying? It was just a little too quick.

Yeah, like stop. Wasn't ready. Just like a little gap in between person where he can come, be the head coach. And then also while he's here, bring in a great staff, like being able to get the offense right, being able to get a great defensive coordinator. But in long terms,

hopefully, like, the offensive coordinator that we picked, that's nice, is going to be able to come and get him out of there. You know what I'm saying? Because I just don't see him as the long-term fix. Oh, I don't. Do you think that this hiring has something to do with possibly them wanting to try and make sure

or have a more likelihood of Aaron coming back? Would you want him back? What you want him to stay? Would you want him to not come back? How would you feel about that? I wouldn't want the stiller to have to depend on, I love Aaron Rogers, a great player, but I'm not thinking that McCarthy and Arod is not 2010. It's not 2012.

It's not 10 years ago. If this was 10 years ago, I'd be all in for it. You know what I'm saying? Arod is just not the same as he was. And McCarthy, if we wanted to bring him in, I hope it's just not for Arod. I hope it's a way bigger picture of bringing in offense, defense, and just the whole way that he's built. You know what I'm saying?

If it's just for A-Rod, that's going to be a one-year thing. And I'm hoping that they didn't get the head coach, depending on a one-year-old quarterback, that they did things back in the day and were able to get one Super Bowl when he was A-Rod, when he was that man. He was the best player in the NFL. You know what I'm saying?

So I would hope that they didn't make that pool just for A-Rod, but I don't want to disrespect. Mike McCarthy because he is a good he's a good coach, a great mind, he's won Super Bowl, his teams don't lose when he was with Dallas. That looked nice, but they still didn't get over the hump.

If they did all of that he did with Pittsburgh, we would still be looking at him like Mike Tomlin, like, oh, you made it all the way there. That's not good enough. We didn't win a ship. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just not seeing that with why they were bringing Mike McCarthy

to Pittsburgh after Mike Tomlin just left. I ain't going to lie to you, bro. I don't, um, I like, I like I said, I like Aaron. I think Aaron's a good quarterback. I've credited him with host having the season that we had without him. We wouldn't have it. But I just don't want him back. I don't want him back because we need to be able to move on. And it really

depends on what Will Howard can do if he can actually do it. You know, I, unless it's a reason we haven't seen him that we don't know about because maybe he can't do it or like, and if that's the case why is he still there? I don't know. But unless we get to the point to where we can actually get a franchise quarterback dude, we're going to be in the same position picking middle of the pack, especially if we bring Aaron back because he has the capabilities to be able to keep us in contention when maybe without, definitely without him, we wouldn't be.

You know what I'm saying? And if the fact was like we wanted a offensive-minded coach because McCarthy is that dude, why didn't we just wait? Shula is sitting there right now. Yes, yes. He would have been done today. He is young. We would have had what we wanted the future and we could have built or he could have built

what he wanted and got what he needed. But dude, we are so afraid of that rebuilt word that we made a snap decision out of fear. bro. That's what I believe, bro. Yeah. I think when you say with I fear too, what people are realizing when Mr. Rooney said, he was surprised by Coach Tomlin stepping off. He wasn't ready to be looking to hire another coach. So the status quo of everybody saying like, oh, no, we need to move on for Coatee, Rooney wasn't there yet. He wasn't trying to move on for Coasee.

He was still chilling. He wasn't too mad at the way things were going. Like, all right, we're going to be able to figure it out. But like, I'm loving the ship. I like the coach. I like to where our coach is. When you get surprised and now you're ready to go hire something, young, new, different, ah, Mike McCarthy looks like Coach T, okay, just comfortable. You know what I'm saying?

Like, he didn't fire Coach Tomlin and then go higher Mike McCarthy. Coach T stepped off on him. So he's like, oh, man, like, I wasn't ready for this. And then it's just like a comfortable pick instead of being like, no, no, in my opinion, it's ready distillers. Fans, I know for base or whatever, everybody I'm seeing was ready to. go get somebody young, ready to like a new head coach. Yeah, I see the chat.

They're saying they're the same person and all that, just different. I really understand what y'all saying. I understand your memes, all that stuff. But yeah, okay, let's just say Tomlin and McCarthy are the same guys. Okay, on paper, when you look at it, it's the same guys. The big difference is Mike Tomlin never had a losing season and all the other stuff. McCarthy has what, he's been the head coach of, what, Green Bay and Dallas, right? Yep.

Those are two franchises that already had their quarterbacks there, bro. Oh, yeah. Aaron was there 2005 to 21, 22 with, hell, with Mike. He had been from 2007 until, what, 18, 19, whatever it was. was now you go to Dallas. He got, he got Dak over there. Dak was already that. You know what I'm saying?

So, like, he has to build. And in 2000... What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings.

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It was time actually before that to actually start to look for somebody to replace. Okay. And he had the opportunity to try and rebuild that and get it up. And he didn't. And with McCarthy, he hasn't had to rebuild from scratch. Yeah. So. He's like a courtbacks.

He ain't allowed. He's right. Right. And, you know, yes, he's older. You know, he hasn't had the opportunity to do it, but can he do it? He's older. And, like, I understand that, but can he still relate to the players? If he can still relate to the players and do everything as necessary to understand and read it and gain the respect of the players and build a staff that is, you know, conducive to getting done, that we need done. then that's great, man, hiring people that's going to teach and lead and guide

and make sure they're doing what they need to do. That's, you know, that's not an issue. Nobody said Andy Reid was too old. Nobody said Bill Belichick was too old. So I'm here to say like, hey, I understand. I feel the same way. But let's get a man a chance. For sure.

Let's get a man a chance. I'm not saying he's too old either. 63 is no. John Harbaugh is 63 years old. They're the same age. So it's not like, not like that's like crazy. But I was just saying if you want to have a coach, I'm just thinking with younger energy period and a 20-year stint.

I'm not thinking he's going to be coaching until he's 83. You know what I'm saying? Like that might be a stretch. Yeah. I mean, I don't, I don't know. I mean, we'll, we definitely go see. We're going to see. But to say, I'm surprised.

I am definitely surprised. I'm hoping. It works out. I'm hoping this, you know, thing where it's a short term, you know, it's a step in, you know, it's a, it's a filler, you know, for who may hopefully be the next, you know, coming. But, you know, if he's great, all this stuff goes out the window. For sure. I'm praying for the best, but if you ask me whether I surprised, yes. Yeah. I was, I was, I was definitely, definitely a little, a lot of surprise. Yeah. Yeah. I ain't go a lot. I'm not going to. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. forward to, you know, actually meeting and seeing chopping it up

and going from there, but I'll let them. Like I said, I'm not, I don't dislike it. I don't like it. I'm just surprised. It's a, you know, it's a safe. It's a safe pick. You got somebody that's there. You know, that's what it seems like to me right now.

Basically, we're exchanging one for the other. We just got to see what he can do as far as building because he's never had an opportunity to actually build. He came in with, you know, ready-made positional franchise quarterbacks. And right now, we're going to see if he can get that done. Yep. But we've got to give him some support. And I'm here hoping for the best, wishing for the way.

That's our guy now, right? That's our guy. That's our guy. That's right. Hey, listen. I'm a stick. We're going to stick with him. That's our God.

Until we're going to see. We got to roll with it until it don't roll. And hopefully we're able as an organization to see that it either is rolling or isn't rolling and make the appropriate steps necessary. Necessary, winters necessary. Yes. Let's get on over here. Let's get on to these good football playoff games that we had. Let's get to these good football games that we had, man.

The good one, man. Good one. The Patriots, baby, and the Broncos. 10-7, that's a fight, baby. That's a fight. It went. They talk about, man, listen, man, they don't even know what a good game is. They're a boring game.

No. I'm going to tell you that. That game at the end of the end, that was wet. That weather got terrible. You, like, and you know when you say it doesn't look as bad. I don't care about it. It doesn't look bad. That game could have been in Foxboro, baby, if they had beat, uh,

the Raiders at the beginning of the year. That would have been a horrible game right there. I can't believe that. That's a deep. I love that game as a DB. As a DB. That's the easiest game to play in. Just keep your feet.

You need to wear seven studs. Seven studs. You got to stack them. Them dudes got to stack them with the studs. Like them dudes, they always trying to wear them cool little cleats. And they was looking at me. O.G., you still wearing them seven studs?

Yes, I'm not going to fall. It's that time of the year. What are you talking about, son? What are you talking about? Stubbs. Only seven studs. That's probably why they were slipping out there. Exactly.

They had on them cool cleats with no seven studs. I was like, no. Everybody got to put on studs. Man, look here, man, I'm going to give y'all how this game went. We're going to get y'all how this game went, man. Denver started off with the rock. The past defense come out there hot, hot. First down, they stop Harvey for one.

Second down, he'd get Nathan. Third down, they ran up on that man and almost sacked fumble. Almost strip sacked them. almost sacked for me. If he had just held on to it for a little longer, he was doing a little bit too much. He was a stettom. He was doing a little bit.

A little too much. Throw the ball away. Throw the ball away, son. And then they punt the rock over. And, bro, this damn punter over there in Denver. He's nasty. He's throwing with his leg. Boy, throwing with his leg.

Yes. He's going. He pinned us. The A. Y'all line. Us. Oh, so you're going to go ahead. Okay. Okay.

Us at the eight. I thought they were going to win. I thought they were. You pin us at the eight. Soon they get the winning. Hey, first down, we get five with Stevenson, okay? Second down, he picked up one more, okay? Fourth down, May is almost picked this.

But Diggs played some good defense. He was able to knock the ball. out of his hand. A good, good, good play by Diggs. We punt the ball. We put the ball. And my guy, schooler, do what he do. He did it all game.

Plow. That was a one-yard law. That was a one-yard law. Okay. The enemy get the ball. Denver, that's my enemy now. Let me stop playing with you. Deverick get the ball first down.

Oh, dude, he scrambled up out of a, sack make a good pass. I think it was the Harvey, but it was incomplete. It didn't matter if he did catch it. I think it was an illegal touch. He went out of bounds. Yeah, yeah. Second down, dude, dropped the

screen. I think he could have scored on that one, though. Yeah, they ended up getting the third and ten. Boy. And he hits Mims. Whoa. That's what I'm talking about. That's what the chance. Look, Stidham, at the beginning

of that game, that's versus Gonzalez. It looked like a little miscommunication. What happened? And Joe? He was chilling. It looked like a cover four. He was like he was going to have a safety, but the safety was looking to steal something from the other side.

And I'm like, it just looked like him. Because Gonzalez, he's not chilling like that for no reason. I think he's expecting somebody to have his top. So he went up there and he got beat that you can't have that. 52 yards, brother. First down. Was it first and gold at the 7? They try a little trickery with, what was it, Brian?

He should have got dropped for a loss. He ended up scrambling for a hot yard, second down. What happened there, Joe? What's going on? That's the same thing. This miscommunication, we having bad eyes. We got to know who has who. I'm thinking that the corner might have the flat and the safety might have the top,

but then you got to play high or low. It was just definitely bad eyes because once he started running, they were late to get to wherever they needed to be. So I don't know who had who right there, but it was a miscommunication. Yeah, six-yard touchdown. Sutton, sorry, Sutton, 7-0, Pat's get the ball back. First down, May goes to digs for a hot little six.

I think second down, Stevenson picked up three. That third and one, Stevenson goes, picks up the other one. It's first down. I think they went first down and now to do it. What was 13 doing, bro? He ain't block a soul. They're talking about dude, dude, 13 didn't block a soul.

Not yet. He didn't even touch that man. He dropped him for a two-yard loss. I think it was second down. They went up there to booty. And Sir Tan, dude, he could, if he had, he could have had that. Nice try, wrong guy. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, he was all over that. Third and 12. I think it was, what was it? That bullshit cut block almost got a maze back blew out. Bro, the line. That's what I'm, the tackle. The Cooper is looking weak, just trying to die for my man's legs. That's lazy.

That's lazy blocking. That's lazy work. That's lazy blocking, bro. Mm-hmm. Like, Diggs gets to a hot little three. They can't get nowhere. They end up punting the ball. Denver gets the rock back.

I think first down, Harvey shook. Like, he just shook, oh boy, in the backfield. That should have been a drop for a loss. He gets nine. on there. Second down, he passed it to Brian. He picked up the little two for the first down. They ended up getting to second.

And Harvey, he picked up the what, the two. I said the two for the first down, right? Yeah. So the pads then, they're able to hold them to, I think it was like one yard on the first down. And then was it the second? second down is when a dude dropped it. Sutton dropped that one.

Yes. Right. Okay. Third down, nothing. They end up putting it right back over to him. Pass get the rock. First down. Henderson, four yards.

Second down, May gets sat. Like, yes. Right. That was a smart decision. That was a great play by the D.N. I know, but that was a smart decision because I

saw him thinking about trying to throw that thing and compounding, you know, the issue instead of just taking the sack. Mm-hmm. You know, third down, didn't matter. They ended up punting the rock over. Denver get the rock back. First down, what was it, McLaughlin? He ran for a high three. And then Stedham, he hits Ingram for seven in the first down.

Short pass to McLaughlin for two. McLaughlin for two. second down, I think it was a five-yard pass to a sudden they get to third and three. He had a nice little pass right there. Like he was filling this stuff. He was feeling this. That's where the coach started.

But this one I'm trying to tell you too. You got to, did the coach watch the weather report? You know what I'm saying? Did the coach watch the weather report? He started feeling too confidence that him was driving it, making some good passes, started getting a little cocky, started getting a little confidence. That's what I'm looking at it like, Dibo.

eyes. Yeah. They hand the ball to Harvey on the next play. He went for nine. I think the

fullback picked up three on the next one for the first down. Then it was Harvey again for three,

second down. They hit him all angles. He goes and scrambles up out of that thing. I don't know how he

scrambled up out of there. He got like a hot and I think it was a two yards, something like that. Third down,

though, they start blitzing that boy. He scrambles, he gets five. And this right here, this fourth,

one. I'm like kick it. You already up seven. Go up 10. Go up 10. Make it a two possession game. Great. Right here. Instantly, it's two scores. And then I'm like when I'm saying it's early in the game. The weather report, you've got to know, points are at a maximum. You have a backup quarterback. I know you think he's willing and dealing, but you got down here. Get you some points. And then let's see what's going to happen. A defense is balling. Then maybe you try to get 13, you know, but make it. to possession. That's what I was looking at. Like, oh, he's going gusto. I know what you're thinking with momentum,

but you're bugging. Mm-hmm. Bugging. Incomplete. Turnover on downs. Oh, great defense, too. They was waiting on your little scramble play. Dude.

Go ahead. First down. May get sat again. They get the third and long. And May. May hits Highlands for Twanky. Great ball. Dagger, right on time.

Great ball. But he bobbled that thing. He bobbled it. He bobbled that thing. And then got up with the, I'm like, no, man, I just go ahead and walk away from that. Just going to head walk away from that. They get to a third and manageable. And May is sacked again.

They got to punt the rock. Yep. They get a rock back over to Denver, first down. Give it to the boy Harvey. He'll go for five. Now, I believe it was incomplete. You know, your boy not looking as comfortable in that pocket anymore. They blitzing me.

He started glitching a little bit. He started glitching. Third down, I think he hit MIMS for five in the first, you know. Yeah, okay. Though I thought he was going to panic in that pocket. He kind of looked like he ain't know. He was like, all right, I could get it off. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. He stopped. Right around this. Go ahead. I said, right around this drive right here is where he looks so comfortable, then they didn't convert the fourth and then now he starts looking in the pocket glitching, backing up a little bit too much.

I'm like, yo, slow, wow, whoa, oh, oh. Like, don't mess it up. Don't turn over the ball. Your defense is playing too well. Like, that was like, stem, you're hooping. That's what he does. Come on, man. Third down.

He could have either just tossed that thing into the ground. If he felt like he couldn't toss it, take the sack. Just take it. Just take it. Instead, he throws it. throws the rock backwards. They recovered the thing at the what, 10, 12, something like that?

Man, I think it was the 12-yard line. Pass get the ball. First play, they do a little look like it's going to be a run. Hit the backside, the booty for six. Second down, they said, we got the numbers. Let's run it. May gone ahead and took that thing up the middle. Tug.

It's tied up. After all y'all did. How y'all had them down. It is tied up now. You could have been 10-7 right now. Still up. Yo, May you need to learn how to fall, too, man. He's going to kill himself out there.

Yeah, May he is. He doesn't have the best slide at all. No question. Denver did back out there. First down, he is almost sacked, fumbled again. That's what he's now. Stenheim is starting to look, stidomy. He's starting to look skittish.

Nervis. Murphy. Second down, though. He went on ahead, picked it up. He got Harvey for the 10 and the first. He made more for that on his own, though. I think the first down was incomplete because, hey, the blitz, dude. The blitz was coming.

He started rushing his timing. He throwing that thing in front and behind. Uh-huh. And then he gets sacked on the second down. The guard just got beat like a problem. But that's a all pro. He got, yeah, got, yeah. He got, get up with the Euro step.

Third. It's what, third and 18, 20, they pick up a hot, you know, they do a dump, pick up a hot, whatever. They punt the rock back over. Patriots get the ball. All right. And this way it starts to get a little crazy, too, before halftime. Denver is able to hold them to a three and out because it dropped by Henry on second down. They got a punt to rock back over.

That dropped by Hunter Henry. That was the one kept the clock. Yeah, that was the one that made it to where they forced a three and out. He dropped their rock. Mm-hmm. They punt it back over. They punted back over to Denver. Mm-hmm.

First down, Harvey breaks the toggle. He gets, like, what, 11 right there? Out of the backfield. They end up getting to a second to 10. I think Sutton got six. And then third down, your boy is sacked. He's sacked. So then we get this 54-yarder.

You attempt a 54-yarder. And you miss. And you miss. And you miss. Patriot ball Badger's ball, dude They get to a third and 15

Yes It would pick up 16 yards, bro To the slide into the timeout To the slide into the time out And go for a 63 yarder Not even a shot

Not a shot What is it A snowballs chance in hell Snowball's chance in hell They miss Brother And the goal said they start the third. And you know what they did if they started the third, bro.

They went 16 plays. Mm-hmm. 64 yards, almost 10 minutes. Mm-hmm. And kicked a 23-yard field goal, bro. Stevens, Stevenson would pick up, what, 12, I think May scramble for almost 30. They took that drive was... Br, bro.

Henry picked up nine on the third down that gave him the fourth and one. at the eight, they would pick up the first thing. That whole drive, Debo, was basically the game. They went for 9, 930 on them, 9 minutes, 30 seconds. Like you said, scored the points. And as soon as that happened, we all right by everyone would listen about the weather. But that's when it started looking crazy out there when nobody can complete anything. If it went for the third down sack on May, Boo, they might have scored a tutti.

They forced them to a field goal. they make the field goal is 10 to 7 would have been 10 10 yep Denver get out there and the pat say I-ah get a body three and out three and out three and out three and out pass get back out there second to 10 what may do scramble for 13 take off for 13 he need to learn how to slide bro yeah he's going to kill himself bro he's going to kill itself like like like second and six they do the trickery And Hollins, he goes here to get 31. That was the smoothest flea flicker I've ever seen in the snow.

They just boop, boop, slow, super slow, but it worked perfectly. Yes. They end up getting to the fourth down. They're at like, what does the 20? They go for a 46-six-yard field goal? Yes, brother. Right. Mess.

Yes. But it's still 7 to 10. And on top of that, what was it, about six, seven plays. Yeah. They get the ball back with 11 seconds left in the third quarter. Yes. Like New England had the ball for 13 minutes, over 13 minutes, bro, of 15 in the third quarter. Yeah.

That's wow. That is wow. That's ball control, man. That's what you got to do when you need to start closing out games. Then we get out there. and he, hey, he ain't in his bag no more. He ain't smiling and laughing no more, man. They force another three and out because what that boy doing that third down?

DBU. B.U. I need all that. All that. Jones, on it. Because the weather, that's when it comes to being a DB. I love playing in the snow like that. Because as long as you keep your feet, it's hard to catch that ball.

So as soon as it hits them, all I got to make sure I'm breaking your arms, I'm smacking you as hard as I can. it's already hard to do. You got to do. All I got to do is make sure you don't catch it. You know what I'm saying? It's hard to catch the ball out of this. I'm just trying to smack your arms, anything,

because the weather is in my favor. Oh, no question then. It is all the way in your favor of it. Pats get the ball back. First down, Stevenson, get about 11. They end up getting to a, what, is a third and four. And May is sacked again. I ain't tripping.

They ain't tripping because the defense is, they're going back and four. They punt the rock back over. Okay? They give it to Denver. I think Denver might have picked up like one first down through the process. But then the next first down, he was pressured. The second down just incomplete.

Blown up the whole. Yeah. Third down, what was it, just short? Yep. It was just short. They got to punt the rock back over. And he come to this damn punter again. To the eight yard line, past it down there again.

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because what did he do the last time? He tried to make up for the play and running. He fumbled. Somebody punched it out. So he just went down and slipped. Let me go down here. Nope. I'm not going to compound this thing

and make it worse. They end up going. Frank May is understanding. My running back can't even get his footing to get the ball. What I'm not. He's understanding.

We're just going to need to make sure we just take all this clock out. My defense. They damn near started taking the knee, Debo. for the plays, I felt like that's what they were about to start doing.

I felt like they were going to just take a knee, let the clock run down, you know what I'm saying, three knees, and then punt. Like, because he scrambled on the third down,

he scrambled to the sideline and threw the joint out of bounds. Like, if nobody, if he's not open, throw it out of bounds. So I'm like this. Oh, they're not put the ball in jeopardy.

Do not put the ball in jeopardy. Make sure sit him, he's getting, he's getting real glitchy back there and the weather is looking terrible. We're up. Everybody's missing field goals. Make them have to drive

down. There's no way. And I was looking at it too like this. Oh, my goodness. They're playing keepaway. They're like, they're not even keep away. Just drain the flop. I'm going to give it to you. Like, you're not going to be able to score on us. Yeah, they end up forcing them three and out. They punt the ball. I don't even know if that was a shanker, just a terrible kick. It was just a terrible kick. To the 33 y'all line. I don't know. I'm looking. How far did it go? I don't know, dude.

Ball in the, ball and the ball is on the 35. up. The defense stands up. They only let them boys get, what, five yards and three plays after it was all sitting done with the losses and the games. Yeah.

And they go go ahead and try for a 45-yard field goal. You should have kicked the short one when you was up there. And now you want to kick a 45-yard in the blizzard. It goes off. They done missed it, bro.

After you see buddy blocked it. But he got a hand on that. Yes. He tipped that thing. He got a hand on that. That's just what they get. Now, take the points while they're there. Pass get the ride back, dude.

And this is what I was talking about. They had to drive. They forced a three and out on that one, though. Brother, it's not even a forcing of a three and out, Debo. They weren't trying. They were literally just making sure they weren't going on. Let me give them some credit. Man, no, no, no, no.

He was the law, got two, then he scrambled to the side through it. No, I'm like this, no. Y'all are just, I don't, y'all ain't tricking me. But three it out. Gist the ball back, brother. Second down. Your boy went to the whale one too many times and he said you're not going to get me again. No.

No, no, no. It's too high to low, great play by Gonzalez, just making sure. He's made up. He's looking at the quarterback the whole time and Stidham throws a lollipop, straight up in the air receiver. You got to know this too. Look the whole time. Look the whole time because it's snowing.

The quarterback's not going to be able to throw a 40-yard dot on the outside. You know what I'm saying? It's going to be a jump ball. So you got to look earlier. But Gonzalez's great job, staying on top, making the play, ending the game. No question. Well, May ended the thing with the scramble. You could let me outrun you on that corner.

That's the defensive end. He's not outrunning me, but he definitely got missing on, buddy. He had a buddy could have tried to get to the angle and may hit the hit hit hit the gas on him dude you got to do no question you got to bro you got to game over 10 to 7 because you wanted to pass up some easy points bro that makes no sense no sense I'm I mean your Patriots had 206 total yards of offense the Broncos had 181 total y'all's offense. It was the beginning.

Like you said, first half, when you had those weather conditions, you felt so good, drove it down, big play, scored the touchdown, and you thought you was about to go up 14-0. No, just two possessions. Like, every possession in each of these playoff games means so much. And you're a smart coach. I know you went in a thing and studied the weather report. It was bright outside at the beginning. It's going to get ugly.

Let's get any points on the board that we can. Three, you know what I'm saying? and field goal, anything's going to be hard to come by. So this is a great defense that we're playing against. Luckily, like, he thought he was going to Stim's going to play like that the whole game. He could have started terrible, then did a little bit good, but you got the good early and got comfortable and thought you going to do good the whole game. No, Fulio, every time we get in the position to get any type of points with Stidham,

let's do it. You know what I'm saying? Like, we'll take the three. You know what I'm saying? We're playing against the Patriots. We're here. Our defense is bawling. Three.

Three is good. Three is seven. You know what I'm saying? We don't need to be. Never leaving with zero. We never need to leave from zero. It's the playoffs, man. It's a total elimination.

Like, you're fighting to go to the Super Bowl, buddy, and you up here doing that? Uh-huh. And you up seven? Leaving point? What? I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that either.

Drake May ain't even have 100 yards passing, did he? No, man, Drake May. Listen, that boy, killed him. He killed him. He killed him. And he had one in the 31-yard bomb. Kilt them scrambling and running. Like, come.

on, man. And the mistakes, bro, the mistakes over there by the QB that he was, oh, yeah, we're, they got two weeks off. No, no, y'all got, y'all got all the time on now. He's just compounded. That's, but that comes from not having that playing time, not having that time during the season. Mason in there in his head. And he's like, ooh, I remember I did that. Nope, I can't do that. I got to take this. Oh, yeah. I can't compound this. Mm-hmm. I remember that time. I tried to the well. And they punched it out. Nah.

Right. That one. Mm-hmm. And they punched that thing out. He was like, no, we're not going to go out again. Let me drop down right here. I'm going to get down a little bit earlier. Mm-hmm.

You know what I'm saying? Not worth it. You keep it points off the board when you don't turn over the rock. Like, that's the biggest part. When you have such a good team, your defense is not allowing. And if they do, make it on them. Make them make sense. Make them drive it on our defense.

Don't just give them layups. They scored that. They laid it up. They had the ball on the 12th. That's a layup. You know the touchdown they did score. They hit a 50 yard on you. Uh-huh.

They know. Like, no, make them work it down the field. They ain't going to be to working down the field. They ain't a bit of working down the field. They ain't. And then, hell. The quarterback that you were so highly on, he went on ahead and tossed that thing over to him.

But the biggest thing to me was Sean Payton not kicking that field goal right there on that fourth down. Yep. Like, how do you do it? That's crazy. I don't even understand that one right there. I don't, I don't. If you make it, yeah, this ain't even talked about, but you didn't.

Damn. It was a fifth, you know? Yep. And Joe, we go going on over here, because we ain't got that much time. We go going on over here to Seattle. Yes. Seattle and the ring. Oh, yep.

31 to 27. What did I tell you? Oh. The Rams defense. What did I tell you? What did I tell you about their D-Bs? Answer me when I'm talking to you. You told me, let me tell you, let me tell you,

you told me that the defense was going to be trash. And do you know what I told you? How much did Puka go for? How much did Pooka go for? Under 91. But who did you have winning? Huh? Who did you have winning?

Who did, how much you had Puga, huh? If it hunker? I don't. Okay. I was wrong, but I was right. The big thing I was right about, who cares about the individual performances if it don't get you to double you.

Because I'm talking about prize. Joe. I'm trying to talk about people getting people paid. Joe. Yeah. Joe. Joe. Yes.

I'm talking about winning, Joe. You're right. You're right. You're right. I was wrong. I was wrong. I thought the Rams were going to sue. But you know, you know who proved me wrong?

I'd rather have zero tackles. Do you know who prove me wrong? zero everything and win. Do you know who proved me wrong? Do you know who proved me wrong? The person who proved me wrong, Sam damn Darnel. Mm-hmm. Oh my goodness.

That man? That man. Look, and I'm telling you, my man, don't play. Matthew Stafford was out there bawling two. He was hooping. But Matt, I mean, but Sam Darnold, what in that? He was looking, he looked so good. I'm going to give him all of my credit.

it, I'm going to give him all of my respect. Because I'm not expecting him. What are you talking about? It's nothing that you could do with, what was it, 25. I wasn't expecting it. I wasn't expecting it. 25 foot of 36, 346 yards. 3406 yards.

3 touchdown. Oh my goodness. It was so crazy is that Sam, sorry, Sam Darnold, yes, I was correct. Sam Darnel and your boy Stafford over there got close to the same passenger. but we're kind of used to that from him. I'm not blaming this.

Matthew Stafford. We knew that's what he needed to do, but that wasn't going to win him if they couldn't stop Sam Darno. No, no, no, no, no, no. I told you the defense wasn't like that, Joe. No, no, no. I get tired of you disrespecting me.

No, no, no, no. I'm not letting you get this one over. It was what I told you to. The Rams special teams laid a, Man, I don't hear nothing about that fumpble. I don't want to hear nothing about that muffed. They knew he was going to do it.

He muffed it one time before that. He tried to do it twice. I'm like, oh, my goodness. It should have get him out of the game the first time he muffled. That and then you know who else? Seahawks, my man, the rookie, his name, number three. How did he pronounce his last name? I don't know, so I ain't going to try to.

He looks like, he looked like, what's my name? He looked like Derwin James. He looks just like Derwin James. He was strapped, he strapped Puka on the play. He strapped Devonty on the play. He strapped the running back on the play. He took over a series. Like, he, that young man, bawling.

So, Sam Donald, hooped, J.S.N. Who, Walker the third. Oh, my goodness. It sent Charbonnet's out. Now he won't get all the carries. I think that might even be better. Two-headed monster is nice. But you got Walker tooting the Joan like this.

I got the Seahawks winning the Super Bowl for show. after this weekend. Oh, now you want to come. Now you want to come on the media. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, because you weed with the Patriots. So you're not going to go with your Patriots for the Super Bowl? You're talking about.

You were saying with the Patriots. Oh, I was bull. I was bullfragger rocking on that. It ain't a weed. So Patriots versus Seahawks in the championship. You're going to Seattle. We're talking about these games right here, not the Super Bowl. What are you going with this?

Okay, so for the Super Bowl, I'm going to Seattle. I ain't going to lie to you. I'm still. I'm still. still probably go go Patriots, but I got to look at what I'm looking at as far as O&D special teams. What scares me is the offense ain't really doing much over here right now, and the special teams, they lie with a shank something on them.

So, like I said, who? Who? Who's supposed to teams live with a shank something? No, really. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Seahawks Special Team. I'm going to have to look at this, man. Rashid probably going to run back a punt or a kickoff.

Seahawk Special Teams is not to be messed with. Dude. Yeah, like I said, man. But, hey, what I ain't worried about is him running it back. You forgot Shuler over there, right? Shoehler over there? Yep. You forgot he over there, right?

Man, I'm going Seattle. I understand what you're saying. saying. Only thing I'm worried about is them not kicking it far enough. That's what I'm worried about. I ain't worried about them taking it back. I'm worried about the field position battle that's go come. Okay.

Now, you had that on top of your boy over there on that 4 from 4 going for it instead of kicking that field goal. That could have been 30 to 31. Now, you look at the end of the game. Nope. See, yeah, I'm going. If you had saved just one time out over there. The timeouts.

You got a 20 and a 20. They got him to the, what was it, the 49 right there, but he got tackling bouncer. They just had one time out. That could have a field goal game winner. But anyway, the time out. I told you what was going to happen. The time out.

The time out. Was down bad. Man, so were the Rams D.Bs. I knew that was going to happen. And the Seahawks D's D. Too. Spoon, I mean, they was getting, but they acting like Pooka didn't have one third.

Hey. Listen. Pooka. That's like, Devante didn't have 80-some with a tidy. Listen, bro. Yeah. Pooka. Yes.

Pooka. Yes. Didn't do enough to win the game. It's a team game. If Buddy wouldn't have fumbled them two jumps. And then I'm not. Oh, it's a team game. I'm not mad at him.

But you hollering on buddy. If buddy did this, if buddy did that. It's a team game. They won it. They won. They still gave up 27. 30 balls. Man.

Shout out Seattle. I'm not going to disrespect. No disrespect. That was a good game. That was a good game. Them boys was balling. Yeah. Shout out.

Sam Darno. Shout out. Shout out. That's who we got out. Shout out. Shout out Mike Vable. Coach of the year. Easily.

Shout out. Damn. What's my man? That man went from that. What was it? Four and 13. What to stop playing, bro? He in the Super Bowl.

Went from not even having a chance. Eben Yuri. Stop playing. Even Yuri. That's his name. One year. Eben Yuri from Seattle. Young Derwin James.

Rookie. Baller. Baller. Okay, man. We got some Super Chats. We got, man. We got, we got, I guess we got a leftover super chat. From American Assassin.

American Assassin. 0-0-1. I guess he was the first one, not 00-0-0-0-1. Donated $10. Said, for the love of God, please, Debo, me and my wife, both are begging for you to be the head.

That's over with the head coach. That's over with it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We say, give Debo the bag. Debo, that's what I'm telling you. Everything still is.

Get Debo to do it. Bad! He going... They should have gave me the bag, Joe. They should have gave you the bag. They should have gave me the bag. Look, we got time now, because we know McCarthy, man, he going to be there too long. So we got, but you got time to prep.

You got time to prep for your time. I might have to go and see if I could offer my services or something, man. You know, to me, maybe, you know, maybe he might, maybe he might be willing, you know. to see what I can, uh, what I could offer the team. And I might, you know, I'll throw you in there and give you a couple, you know. Yeah. Give you a shout out. Make sure you get an opportunity.

But I'm going to let y'all know, y'all want us in there. This is what's going to happen now. Y'all want us in there. We ain't going to be able to do the show no more. It's going to be kind of a conflict of interest. And then we're going to be on here Not being able to get an inside scoop And then we're going to have too much inside scoop

We're going to be the scoop Hey, we're going to be the scoop That might be a conflict That might be a serious conflict right there now Yep, yep, yep, yep So we're going to do it until we get this We're going to do it until we get the job, though We're going to do it

We're going to do it until we get the job We're going to do it until we get jobs look here, but Mike and Mike, dash 100 donated $5. Said, what up, Debo and Joe? He said, pairing Mike McCarthy with Aaron Rogers is a great move if it was 15 years ago. I took the word right out of my mouth, brother. I mean, that would be definitely a great move if it was 15 years ago. Yep, because, you know, yep.

Yeah, I definitely. I'm with you. But he's talking, well, yeah, when they was the, when they was the end league, MVP. Yeah. I mean, hopefully he can, I mean, hopefully he knows what he, you know, I mean, he know what he's getting into, what he got to do, the build, I don't know, man. Dibbo, you don't even believe.

I'm hoping, bro. I'm hoping for the best, bro. Over there, you don't even, dang, Dibo. I could see, that's what, knowing you now, I know what you believe in something and I know you don't. I'm, I'm, I'm just, I like, I like being proved. I'm not going wrong sometimes, especially when the situation is like this. I really do.

I would love to be proven wrong on this. It's going to be the time that you do like the, you just give me, you just say something crazy because you know that they listen and then you hope that they just do the opposite and it works out. I don't know if that's how this works. Yeah, man. Good luck, McCarthy, for sure. Right. I'm going to check it out, bro.

I'm going to check it out, though. I mean, I don't know. We might, we might be. I don't know. Anyway, man, we got Rick underscore from New York. He donated $5. He said, I'm 42, and I have cried after two games in my lifetime, Super Bowl 30 and 45. Why do I need to keep seeing these guys that beat us on my team?

Hey, man, he's talking about Aaron and Mike McCarthy, man. Oh, and they beat to him in 2010. Yeah, we lost to him in 2010, man. Debo for Hall of Fame, yes, let's go, let's do it. Let's go, Debo, H-O-L. Hey, look here. Speaking of that, speaking of that, look here. So, great.

And we say, the big thing everyone says is, you say Mike is great because he never had to lose the season. That's a great accomplishment. It doesn't make you the greatest. I have a Super Bowl interception that's 100 yards. No one has ever done in the history of the league as he has done something. Or ever since now, that doesn't make me the greatest. I am the only and probably will only be the ever undrafted free agent that has won a defense's MVP that doesn't make me the greatest.

but because he has not had a losing season, that makes him the greatest. That cannot go together. It don't go together. It won't go together. Look here, man. We want to thank you guys for joining on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download the show, Joe.

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