Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - REACTION to Eagles SURVIVING vs. Cowboys + Jalen Carter SPITTING on Dak Prescott

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles beating Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys 24-20. Jalen Carter being ejected for spitting on Dak, and much more as they preview Week 1 of the NFL season! Timecodes: 00:00 - Jalen Carter spits on Dak Prescott 07:43 - Eagles beat Cowboys 17:03 - Eagles made trade offer for Micah Parsons 18:23 - Micah Parsons digs at former Cowboys teammates? 23:45 - Stefon Diggs apologizes to Boston media 27:25 - NFL heading for 18-game season? 39:14 - Rookie demanded $1mil for Davante Adams jersey number 44:27 - Ryan Clark's WILD Tom Brady take 46:28 - Amari Cooper to retire from NFL 55:06 - Mike Tyson vs. Floyd Mayweather  57:11 - Ocho calls out Deebo again! 59:01 - Powerball jumps to $1.7Bil   (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #Nightcap See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Would you please make sure you like and subscribe to our channel, y'all want to miss nothing? How you doing today, Joe? Man, I'm doing great, Debo. Great to be with you here on this great Friday. We got football. We got things to talk about, my good brother.

Definitely. Definitely. Dallas, Dallas and Eagles gave us a whole lot to talk about, you know, especially before, you know, a snap even got started over there for Philly. My man, Jaylon, he decided he wanted to spit on this man right before the kickoff. You know, in my mind, dude, like the most disrespectful thing in the world you can do, man, is spit on somebody. Like, it's nothing else in this world. that you could do, that would be worse than spitting on somebody.

Like, if somebody was to spit on me, like, go on head and get my bail money together. Like, I'm going to jail. I don't know how that had the control to not, like, react to it and do something. You called me, Debo. Yes. You called me. You called me when this happened. I knew you felt some type of way.

So I couldn't wait to get your opinion. And that's why I'm saying, like, the spit. like I know you feel some type of way so literally like Debo you said bail money for show how would you feel if that would have been you in that situation what would you have done my brother

I just needed to it would it dude I can't even I would have had oh I want to say that I would be able to control myself especially you know being in that situation first game of the season

you got to put yourself where it is you know what I'm saying you are a professional athlete but he doesn't did all right let me say something too when he spit on your man so we got Dag did a little spit first I've seen it but like when he spit on him Debo

he spit on my man's upper chest plate slash Adams apple like he spit that on his neck you know what I'm saying so I'm like the disrespect you're right there in closed quarters and you just really spit on the man so like all like that's what are we

doing that's the craziest thing I had to pause and look at it like man, this is not normal. Yeah, like when they said, like, I think he spit on him. Like, it's no way he went over there or spit on him. And, like, nobody reacted. Like, you don't just casually walk up to somebody and spit on them. Like, like, dude, like, the level of disrespect of spit, it's no level to it.

Like, the only level below that is getting into a fight with a dude and he beat you up by just slapping you and he never balls and straight open hand slaps. Stop. Yeah. Like, that's the only other thing that's closer. And, like, I don't see, the only way I can describe or understand why the offensive line didn't react is that it's no way in hell they saw that. They saw it. Because that's like an all-out brawl. And that's in teams, y'all just canceled the first regular season game because this is not going to stop.

That gives, it gives, like, I would say, you know how, I know how pouncy rock. And I'm just saying for the office alignment, just for protection, that gives you the right to throw a head. Because he literally, he didn't just, he didn't just, he didn't smack your coat. He spit on your mask. So now you can obviously, thumb, you could fire off on him and you might just get a flag, but he's going to get thrown out. Because the initial man, the referee was standing right there, he saw the spit. So I think that's maybe why the, I don't know if the linemen saw it, but like that gives you a little bit. It's no way on God's green earth dude that the linemen saw that.

It's no way. It's, it's no way. I don't believe that. If I see that and it is just, it's you, man, and we, and who I don't care who it is, and they spit on you. We're closed quarters. And he walked over to the other side. That's like an automatic, like he's supposed to be getting hands, feet, maybe a helmet, like, all that. You know what I'm saying?

Like, yeah, it's no other level that you can disrespect somebody with other than spitting on them. Yes. Like, that was crazy. To no, to no extreme, I just, dude, and the fact that they did not react to it. I was hopefully you saying that they didn't see, they had to not see the spit, though. It's no way. And just trace can stay controlled. Yeah, and then like to come out with, you know, Dax spit, he went in between his linemen and he spit.

Dude, he spit at the ground. like he's not he no he didn't even try and level it out to even make like he was getting to you so no all that other stuff you can miss me with that noise you hit that man here here here between here and here direct he spit it's you out on the field he spit on the ground you know what I'm saying like you feel like it's in your direction you feel disrespected that's on you coach dude think about how many times you've been on the field bro and you turn your head to spit and you hit somebody's shoe in the first you oh mom blah blah blah blah For sure, you know, and you ain't even, it's one of your teammates. You just went over in the end of the dude. Backs, facts, facts, facts, facts. Listen, I believe they got to suspend this dude, man. I think he got to get at least six games. You got to go ahead and make an example out of this, dude.

It's no way it should not be some sort of suspension with this, bro. What do you think? I think he should get suspended for show. Six games, I don't know six, but you got to make, like you want to make an example. Spit is not, that's not cool. That's not what we're doing with. We're playing in this game, you know what I'm saying. Tensions get high.

It is what it is, but that's just foul. You ain't even snap the ball yet, bro. You ain't even got to play. What tension got high? It's the first game of the season. He's building up anger, you know, but you're right. You're right, James. He needs to get suspended.

I don't know about, I would say, I would say for show, like two. I would say at least two games. At least two games. Two games, just two games for that, bro? You say six games. Six games? Yeah, I think. Yeah.

If you want to make an example of them, understand. We can do six and maybe knock down a couple. Okay, no, for sure. We can start off at six and then knock it down. I just, yeah. It's just the, yeah, no, I feel you. You got to hit him where it hurts, and that's going to be in this check. He's going to list six game checks, if that's the case.

You know what I'm saying? And that's going to be where it hurts. I would say, for sure, suspend him. The length of the suspension is debatable. He needs to be suspended. He's not going to, he got to sit down. You got to sit down. Yeah, the apology and all, that's, that's, you know, that's great and cool.

But at the end of the day, man, you like, you spit on somebody. Like, if you're in an argument with somebody, that is the last, that is the last thing that you are thinking about doing. Yeah. Is spitting on them unless, dude, you don't spit on you. You don't spit on anybody. The first, the first time your kid is. spit what you do pop them in their mouth right ain't right you don't spit that just don't make sense too anyway man um him getting kicked out the game really didn't uh help uh it helped

the cowboys but it didn't help them enough to win the game i believe 24 to 20 uh the eagles ended up beating them anyway yeah what what uh what takes uh what things that you see that uh came from this game that you would uh want to you know talk about or point out that the Cowboys could obviously do better to help them, you know, secure that win. I think it was more, I would say, Cowboys, man, the thing is, that's what good teams do. You're going to figure out a way to win the game. The Eagles, Jalen Hurts, he threw for 152 yards, win 19 for 23, 82% percent completion rate.

You know what I'm saying? Nothing too crazy. But end of the day, when the game, when the season starts, you want to get out of these games with wins. You want to win. You want to get to the next game. You want to get to practice. Watch the tape. Watching tape on a win is way easier than watching that tape on a loss. So Dallas Cowboys, like, they didn't have their best defense alignment, their interior alignment. So they ended up being able to just get out of that situation, winning the game, defense plays solid, only gave up 20 points. You know what I'm saying? So these are just messy games

where nobody's really into the flow. You don't really know what's going on. AJ Brown wasn't targeted. He had one catch for eight yards. You know what I'm saying? Like they just, at the end of the day, the offense wasn't doing too much, but these are the games that you just end up winning. You want to get out of stadiums with Ws and not L's because it's way easier to figure out, you know what I'm saying? Let's study from this. Let's get right. But let's not spit on fucking somebody. If you're in the game, that'll help our defense to just start off. You know what I'm saying? Like that part. And then we can start A.J. Brown getting him into the mix. Saquant Barclay, he scored a touchdown. He only had 60 yards rushing. But you leave those

stadium. Well, yeah. Jalen and Jailen made up a lot, a lot of that with, you know, scrambling. and coming up with big plays, you know, getting in there. I think on, you know, Dallas side of the ball, they need to, you know, I think shore up, like just small things. I think they need to get, they need to get, what's his name, picking's more involved. They need to get more touches, you know, getting more targets. I believe they had over something team targets for CD. Also, CD had a few drops. I think he had three or four drops there.

But I think the big thing that really hurt them was that turnover and then, you know, the rain delay. It seemed like both teams couldn't get started back from that. On defense, you know, again, I mean, more pressure from the Dallas defense. Obviously, Parsons isn't there. I wonder why. I wonder why the lack of pressure, Debo. Yeah, I mean, you know, hurts running the ball, hurt him. You know, him scrambling his ability to, you know, extend plays and make.

And make plays with his legs was really the big difference. And like you said, he didn't go out there, you know, slinging the ball, left and right here and there. But he made up for it, you know, at the points and spots of the game. And that's what, and that's why I love Jalen, too, at the end of the day, like, doing what it takes to win. He's going to, like, when people say, you're not Greg or whatever, whatever, but you're going to, he leaves that stadium with a W, not an L. That's O-N-1, the Eagles are one and O, trying to figure out how to go two and O. You know what I'm saying?

Like, it's the simple part of at the beginning of the season, how do you start behind the A ball? You win games that you're not really supposed to win or nobody's really performing like you think they are, but you won the game. So y'all are just building consistent. You stack those up. Next thing, you know, you're sitting there four and O

just trying to get your rhythm right. Like, this is the beginning of the season, training camp. Nobody's hitting, you know what I'm saying? But he's making those third and shorts like scrambling, being able to extend the plays, being able to just do what you got to do to win the game, get out of the stadium.

So like- Yeah, according to. the next gen stats, Jalen Hertz picked up a career high five first downs on nine scramble runs. Come on, man. Yeah, including the gang clenching, third down conversion. He also scored both of the touchdowns on scramble runs. You know, obviously, I think you were impressed by his performance last night. Would that be a correct assumption? A thousand percent.

I mean, like, I... With that being said, do you think he's a top five quarterback now? See, that's the thing. I never want to give slander to Jalen Hurst. I'm not here for the Jailen Hurts. I'm not saying you're slander. No, no, no, no, no. That's what when I say that.

When you say he's a top five, that means you got- I'm referencing myself to say that I don't know if he's top five. He might be like, he's top 10 for sure. But I'm saying, like, the way that I think of Aaron Rogers of being just the best throwing of the ball, you know what I'm saying, compared to like people- The way you think of the position of quarterback. I understand what you're saying.

Quarterback position. Yes, yes. If all things being the same, I think if Patrick McHolmes was on the Eagles, they may be better. And that's no disrespect because I love. None. You know, I love Jalen Hertz. So that's why when I say, if I were to put Joe Burrow there, I think that they may be a little, they may be a little better. You know what I'm saying?

Like, and that's not knocking Jailant in any way. He's doing what he's X to do. He's a great quarterback. He deserves every dollar that he gets. You know what I'm saying? But I just think there's a couple of player quarterbacks that I think that are just a little bit more gifted than him. throwing the football, you know what I'm saying? And that's just, as me as being a quarterback,

I think that that's just on my, on my top. So I think he would probably be like, he's definitely top 10. He's around probably six or seven. Probably six. I would say six. Okay. I would say six.

Okay. Okay. Where do you put in? Like, I'm with you. He's in that top 10. I can't, I don't feel comfortable saying top five because, again, my view of the quarterback is the just flat tangibles of a quarterback what he can do at that position.

Yes, being able to run afterwards and, you know, extend the play, that's an added bonus and all that. But being able to see what you see, get it there and, you know, read out of things, that's something that he can do, you know, just sitting in the pocket. And like you said, Tom, you look at Tom, you look at other guys like Tom, you look at Mahomes, same thing with Mahomes. He can see it, and if he don't see it, he can get up out of there. But, you know, nine times out of ten, he's looking to throw the ball.

So I think a few of those times, you know, it was opportunity where he could have hit a guy that may have been breaking open and chose to take it off or just maybe later on to read or maybe they're breaking later open. So I don't. Was there any cost of a concern, you know, from the Eagles last night that you could think of anything that? I mean, it's early, you know, I think AJ Brown getting involved, you know what I'm saying, just trying to get that passing game going. But like I said, it's early on in the season, being able to come out of these games with Ws is the main thing. So them winning, a tough division game, starting off, I think they're on the right path. But, like, AJ Brown, getting the receivers more involved, I think that's something that we could do a little calls. You know what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

Just a little dump. That big post that he threw, that was a 50-yard pass. you take away that he went 18 for 22 for 100 yards that's real you know what I'm saying thinking like thinking like more just a little bit more explosive plays you know what I'm saying I think that's probably the only thing for real because they did good job on defense and they didn't have their best player on and they didn't yes that was something else like I'm not I'm not really concerned about it but I believe they won't have him for a few more two more weeks if not you know if not more than that you know and I believe next week who they play

the Chiefs or something. Oh, man. I think so. Is it? I believe they play the Chiefs next week. So, you know, coming up on that, not having your guy in the middle there or possibility of not having him there,

that's a lot different game, you know, for them when they're going in there trying to make sure they can stop the Chiefs and Patrick and home. So, you know, just from the play that I saw last night, again, the best defensive player wasn't in there. I ain't go lie, dude. I think Dallas might be a little better than what we think, bro.

They got, they have talent. They have talent. I think them getting George Pickens also along CD Lamb, he dropped some balls. That's not the normal CD. He's still a 7 for 110, but he's going to get right. Getting George Pickens is another number one. You know what I'm saying? They need to throw that ball to him the same way they're throwing it to CD.

And that's what I was saying. You need to get him more touches. Oh, he's unbelievable. His athletic ability, like just put him in space, get in the ball, throw him a slant. He could take it to the crib. We've seen it before. You know what I'm saying? So I think just getting able to get him involved, that understanding, you got two number

ones. You can go to box. And on the defensive side, man, like, you know, how much you think they missed Micah, though? Oh, big time. Like you said, there wasn't the pressure of being able to, he, you saw, Jaylor, he ran for five of them first downs being able to just escape. Like, they weren't compressing the pocket, being able to keep him contained. So I think with Micah there, he would have been able to get to, he would have been able to

him. He's the best defense alignment they have. By far, he's the best defense to player they have. He's the best player on their team. And he was not there to help run that man down and stop some of those straight downs that he was able to convert. Yeah, yeah. So I guess according to Adam Schaffner, the Eagles were in a great big war for Michael Parsons.

Like, it's no way in hell that Jerry Jones was going to give. No. Michael Parsons to the Eagles No, no, no Dude, that's probably why he was talking about Yeah, he got he got two or three more years here Like he'd let him sit there And do nothing

Before he'd give him to the Eagles For sure, that was the last question You imagine, dude, the Eagles with Michael Parsons right now No That game would have got ugly Way uglier It's no way There's no way

There's no way. I mean, they would have had to give them, he would have got the haul that he deserved. They would have had to give him six first round picks. They would have had to. Dude, I don't even think he would have gave. If they gave him, I would not have done.

It would have been the worst move he could have ever made in his life. You're almost but all, but guaranteeing that you will never beat the Eagles for the foreseeable future. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right. That's right. I just don't

Dude, I just don't see it happen. Going to Michael Parsons, I guess they're saying that Micah took a little dig at his former cowboy teammates. Let's see. By praising his Packers teammates, he said, I tell you, I've never been in a

locker room with guys like this. I come in Tuesday for treatment and I saw almost every guy in the locker room. This is the first time I've seen this. He said, He goes on and say, that just shows how much these guys want to be here. They just want to be around.

They just want to be around each other and hang out. I think that's important. And when you're around guys like that, it makes it exciting to come to work. Do you think he was taking a dig at his former team, or do you think he's just excited to have an opportunity to be on a team? That man, Devo, that man is in Wisconsin. They ain't nothing to do out there. everybody's at the facility getting right chilling getting treatment for sure where we

going to be what we're going to do so understandably i think that micha got to understand it's like wisconsin's a little different in dallas but i understand when you come into a new spot you're bringing that good energy you're saying what you see i think that it's dope that everybody's in the facility you know i think everybody's getting that treatment getting that working early Dallas Tuesday's the day off debo we know this what are people doing on tuesdays that's your time that you don't have to come to the facility actually you can chill you can do what you want to do so being that in he's saying Wisconsin everybody's there they're getting treatment I was many people on the Tuesday that's the day off so he's saying everybody's in the

facility maybe in Dallas finally the day off people aren't in there as much you know what I'm saying you can come get your lifting you cannot but I think you're saying I'm I'm looking at like dude They're in the facility. You're in Wisconsin. Everybody's coming in the facility because you're getting treatment, getting their body rights, 1,000 percent. But I don't think it's that serious. I don't see it as a dig at the Cowboys.

I see it as him being exposed to a different locker room, a different way of moving. So from the time I was in Pittsburgh from 2002 until probably 2012, that's what we had. We had a group of dudes that were in there. everybody were in there together like we hung out on the off time you know we'd go out hang out do whatever go out kick it and first thing in the morning yo six 37 o'clock you're in the gym at the latest working out getting it going and that's just the you know that's just the atmosphere

that those players from that time to us passed down and it it just continued and to be honest with you, like, as it went further and further in 2012, I ended up going to Cincinnati in 13, and, you know, I came back unretired and was back in 14, and it wasn't, it wasn't the same, you know what I'm saying? You didn't have the same where it was a whole, you know, like, team thing. You had, you had your little cut-up groups, you know what I mean? Like, you had your groups, like, maybe it was offense, defense, where before it was just everybody, you know what I'm saying, when bussy and all, then,

was there, it was everybody. Now it was a little more off his defense. And then it even got, you know, some things got cut down even more than that, you know, it was positionally. You know, it might be, you know, receivers and dvs and all that. So I understand what he's saying. He's not taking a knock. He's been exposed to something else that he didn't think would happen because that's, that's all he was exposed to. This is something new and he likes it. He's enjoying it. And he's not taking a knock at somebody else. He's saying, I'm seeing something else. And it's good. I like I want more of it. I love that.

I love that. No, for sure. Like you said, too, in Cleveland, just different, like, when I went from, in Cleveland, on Tuesdays, like you said, this is the day off. You have, like you said, positional groups.

We were really cool. Defenses get tight, but when I came to Pittsburgh, Will Gay, and those dudes, they will always have some stuff, like those defensive meetings. There was, like, mandatory tickets, you know what I'm saying?

Like, not really mandatory, but dudes wanted to hang out. Like, we're going to watch this film and we're going to get some good food. like and just really bond to be able to talk and really be able to get this camaraderie. So there's different. And that's what I was trying to do. When I was in Cleveland at first, some O.Gs, Abe Elam, dudes that do it, you kind of like I said, you just fall into it because the OG going to tell you kind of where we go on, where we're meeting that.

And that's what you're going to do. And then when you become, OG, you want to set that thing up too with the food, making sure everybody's good. So they feel apart. Everybody knows we end us together. End of the day. We grind and we figuring it out. but meeting and us doing these little out of the, off the team, when coaches is not here, this is what makes me know your family,

what makes me feel like we are actually bonding, you know what I'm saying, getting along that camaraderie. So I understand exactly what you're saying from that perspective because that's a real thing. Maybe they weren't doing that as much in Dallas. Like I said, the OGs probably didn't bring them in as much, didn't like take them out the dinners or show them the way, you know what I'm saying,

if he would want to get led. And now when he goes there, it's a whole different vibe. Dang, I got somebody really like, oh, dang, that's what's good. Like, boom, so this is what we doing? And everybody's just kicking it, cooling that. He's like, man, these dudes are some good-ass dudes. Right, right, right. Speaking of people that was doing things the way he just found out they're doing them.

I guess Stefan Diggs' decision to not speak to the Boston media rubbed the local reporters the wrong way. It says, Diggs apologized, I guess, for coming off Rube. He said, obviously, I don't want to come across as that. Well, they said he was. They said he said he was a pain of posterior. Yeah, dude, my braces be locking me up, brother. Posteria, posthia, yeah, yeah, he was a pain in the ass, you know. Obviously, they said posterior, so it wasn't one of us.

But he said, obviously, I don't want to come across as that. I'm going to say this. I want to be very clear. I'm an adult. I apologize. I'm not up here to Eagle Trip. I'm not up here to rub anybody the wrong way or say anything that's clickbait. If I rubbed anyone wrong, I really want to apologize.

So like, you know, the man said he's up there. He's trying to lock in. He's making sure he take care of his body. He's take care of his mind. You know, it's camp. He didn't want to get, you know, into the whole rigmarole yet, you know. And right now, I guess, you know, you're. at the point where it's mandatory now, you know, so he's doing what it is that he has to do

right now. But, you know, at that point in camp, he was saying he wanted to lock in. And I guess the two individuals, they actually, I guess, had a little an apology too. Do you think that that's something that you would do or that do you think he was actually just locking in or do you think he was just being a-ho, as they say. A pain I can't even say the word, brother. I don't think, I know Diggs personally. That's my man. He's from the

DMV. We're from the same area. Like, I know him, I know his brother, all of them. And Diggs is a really, really good dude. I would say that you know, he had a lot of off-the-field stuff really going on. You know what I'm saying? He was in a situation. So he just wanted to keep it football. He's in a new team, knows

what they're trying to talk about, and he really wants to keep the main thing and man thing. Coming off of injury. He knows he got some stuff to prove and I think he's going to do it. So I don't think he was trying to be an asshole. He just knows that people are trying to make the story not what it is and he just wants to keep it on football. And the only way is to stay away from the media, just stay off of it right now, really lock in, try to be the Patriot way of old. Like, don't really worry about that. You know what I'm saying? You're locked in. You're trying to do football. You know what I'm saying? So I understand where he's coming from and now just getting back to

the media you're going to have to respond you're going to talk so i think he really really genuinely does want to apologize really did do that genuinely from his heart because he's a good dude he doesn't mean any harm but he knows how the media is and they can tie things up and try to make him look crazy so staying away from him is a way like you're not going to be able to confuse nothing if i don't say nothing if i don't talk to y'all you know what i'm saying i think that was right you can't mix up my word but if i don't say nothing to you then it ain't it ain't it ain't that you confuse or just you can say is that i'm going to ask if i don't want to talk to you. You know what I'm saying? So that's the most you can say. That's what they were

saying. He's not talking to us. So he fuck him. So, but basically, like, he's like, you're not going to be able to say nothing because I'm really locked in. I'm on my football. You haven't seen nothing about Diggs. He's, I love that man. So I'm rooting for him. I hope the best, nothing but the best for Diggs. So I think that that's what he was on. Like, no, don't get this confused. I really got, I'm on a new team. I'm coming off injury. I'm trying to ball out. That's what it is. Yeah. So, um, let's get over here to the NFLPA. I guess the NFLPA, interim director, David White, says, an 18 game schedule is not inevitable. What do you, what do you think of that comment, bro?

Man, they tripping. They just try to get more and more bag. As far as him saying that it's not inevitable, for me, that's an absolute lie. That is inevitable. That is going to be one of the things that the NFL is going to want when it comes time for them to renegotiate. this new collective bargaining agreement. With that being said, him not saying it's not inevitable, it is inevitable.

It's going to happen. And if you're saying that it's not, I don't believe you've got yourself into a situation that you understand what is going on, obviously. And you haven't been through the history of how this whole thing has went down. I don't know if you were playing when Gene Upshaw was the in the position that he's in now as the executive director. So when Gene was in there, he had told us, dude, this was like 2007, 2008. He was like, yo, the NFL is going to lock you out. You guys need to save up money and you need to save up 100% of what it is that you make, over the course of the next, I believe he said two or three years at that time to make sure you can make it through a 12-month lockout.

Because he said come 2011, they're going to lock us out. He ended up not making it to that. He ended up passing, I believe it was 2008. And then we got the worst commissioner to ever, I mean, we got the worst executive director to ever have. And that was D. Smith. D. Smith did everything possible, dude, to just increase the power that he had as the NFLPA, you know, executive director for the players. It wasn't anything, you know what I'm saying? He made it to where he took a lot of the power away from the players being able to make the decisions of,

who could actually even be voted in as a executive director. He put a whole executive committee together that actually voted on who would run against him. The committee he put together voted on who would run against him and took that vote away from the players where before the players actually made the vote of, you know, who it is they wanted to run. and then from there, they voted on, you know, who would do it. I don't believe, I don't believe David White has a good understanding. Prime example. I went down to the facility yesterday, the Steelers facility yesterday, and he was supposed to be down there, I believe it was him,

Don Davis, who is the chief player officer, and Jalen Maven, I believe is his name. I really don't know. He's supposed to be the president of active players. He's not even an active player right now himself. He's not even on a roster. But they were supposed to be there. And this is supposed to be his very first trip to Pittsburgh.

And he doesn't even show up. No. Bruh. He doesn't even show up for it, right? So now, like, even D. Smith as bad as he was, came. He at least show up when he was supposed to show up. So you're telling me. No, that's great.

The interim executive director for his first trip introduction to the group of guys he's supposed to be, you know, out here working for and defending doesn't even show up. Your chief officer, your, what is it, your chief player officer, he doesn't, he doesn't show up. All three of these dudes don't show up. And on top of that, did they send a message? Did they send an email? No, no, no. I knew of nothing why they weren't showing up. You had a couple other NFLPA reps that showed up

that assumed that they were already there. And I'm like, no, they're not there. They're not on the field. So, you know, the NFLPA leadership dude is weak at every level. We need strong leadership. We need competent leadership. I went, you're not going to show up. Here's the crazy thing, right.

It doesn't make any sense. Before the last one. I went and was like, yo, I want to get, I want to run for, you know, executive director. I told Don Davis this. He never dropped my name in the hat. I know this for a fact because I talked to a person. Oh, no, Debo. Exactly the committee.

And you know why that happened? Because he was trying to get it. Debo, what was this? That was currently trying to get it now. But again, man, I'm running for executive director. My name will be in a hat. It will be there. So the leadership that we need is a guy that is like Gene Upshaw was.

He was a guy that played the game. He understands what we go through. He understands what happens. Like, I'm a guy. I was a practice squad guy. I was a guy that was a minimum guy. I was a guy that actually made money. And I'm a guy that's retired right now.

So I know all the things that we go through, that we've been through, and you're going to go through when that time comes, that you're, you know, done with football or football is done with you, you know, and it's just, you know, the difficulty. I'll just bring up one little thing, like your HR, you know, you got all that money in your HR, right? And that's where, you know, when you get done, you got your health reimbursement stuff. So you can get your insurance paid and all that stuff, right? Well, for you to get that reimbursement, the money's here. right the money's here but the money is there but what you got to do to get to it you don't know it's a field of broken glass you got to crawl through dude it took me almost two hours and 34 minutes just to get back 50 bucks a reimbursement of a of a credit thing and that was only because

I got lucky and got a hold of a signer person that sat down there with me and actually called the other insurance company it's things like that that guys are running into so when you have guys that are retired and they're like, you know, I can't get this, I can't get that. And, you know, you tell him, get your HR 8. Well, yeah, it's there. He just can't get to it because he got to crawl across this glass that he can't get to. And if you're a guy that has a regular 9 to 5, they're only open regular hours. So you don't have the time to sit there and do all that to actually, you know, go through it.

If you learn it, I actually talked to four different people before I got one guy that actually sat down there with me on the phone for, like I said, two hours, 34 minutes and went through the process to show me how it was done. You know, with that being said, I'm just, I'm just concerned that as interim, I hope it's just the interim, because we need somebody in there that knows exactly what we go through, what we're going to go through, that can go in there and actually speak for the players that's trying to make it better for the players and not trying to make it better for them to keep power, position, and money.

That's all I would say. No, I ain't going to lie to you, Debo. Well, you're speaking facts, brother. You are. Because at the end of the day, you're not coming to, you're not looking for any particular, you don't want to gain anything. You want to help people out.

Like you've been in the situation, like you said, you were undrafted, you ended up being minimum. You had a contract and now you retired, grown, kids, everything, the whole situation. So you've seen it on so many different levels that you're not trying to act a certain way. No, you just know that it's hard once you get retired and trying to figure some stuff out of the situations.

Like just how to, how to continue to keep going and you just want to look out for the dudes that are in the league that, no, this, your time's going to come. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's sweet once it is, but once you get out, you really need to have people that are trying to protect you and not looking for a game, not looking for their self to get, literally they, you don't want it for yourself. You're looking out for the next generation. So I think that's exactly. I can't get nothing from it now. Like, I'm done.

And it's about the future of the guys. I'm with you. What's the position that we're looking for you to get, Debo? We want, we want you to be president. We want me to be the executive director of the NFLPA. That's what we're shooting for. That is what we're going for, dude. I'm done.

Look, it's done. Executive director of the NFLPA. D, because I ain't going to lie to you, though. I love when it matches. It's not like we're trying to do something that doesn't make sense. It makes perfect sense. You deserve to be the NFL executive director of the NFLPA because you're going to do what needs to be done for the players you're not trying to get over you're trying to look out

and that's what the NFLPA is supposed to do look out for the players out for the guys and it got i think when when jean you know passed and it was passed over or they voted for for for for d smith it it didn't become that like no longer did we hear a stave up is going to be a locked out and all that other stuff like he was telling us that like in 2007 jean was telling us that 2007 you're going to lock us out you need you guys need to save up and make sure you can make it through a year he got in there and all of a sudden it was like yeah you know what happened to what you know jean was saying you know and then come the last hour they're like oh yeah um they're going to lock you out we're going to try and help guys with this and that dude if guys had listened from the

very beginning and you continue to push that as you should have instead of it being a oh we could they could lock us out so make sure you save something then guys wouldn't have been able to hold out but at the end of the day even though the guys that you know were able to do it or wasn't able to do it the the message should have been the same yeah when it came down to it you should have been the guy as the executive director to do the hard thing and make it to where guys would get exactly what they wanted some people got to learn hard lessons the hard way everybody was told the same thing. Yeah.

So just because, you know, he told me, well, you know, James, we had a certain percentage of guys that just, you know, they wanted to go back. They couldn't. I'm like, dude, you're not there for a certain percentage of guys. You're there for everybody. You're there for the NFLPA, the NFLPA. That's all players, not the ones that just didn't listen. Like, you're trying to make it better.

I'm not going to let my son do something that I know is not going to benefit him in his future, just because he's, he, he's, he, he, He wants to do it right now. Right, he wants something for the short term, you know? Like, it just, it just didn't make sense, man. And, you know, you go that long just to come out with a deal that, you know, it wasn't even worth going through the fight of it. Like, it wasn't even a fight.

It when it came down to that. Yeah. So I guess, I guess Devonte Adams, when he was dealt to the Jets last year, he asked the rookie receiver Malachi, I guess, for his 17, he offered him 17,000 in exchange for number 17. According to the Devante, man, he's told him he need a million. God! A million? You said, hey, man, it's good to have you. Happy to have you on the squad, but I need a million.

I'm going to need a whole meal ticket for that one. But I'm going to need a million. Who is that, Corley, Malachi Cori. Who is that? I don't know. I'm trying to think. I got a little bro up, but I don't, acting for a million is wild.

That's out of control. Millie's crazy. I had to pay, when I was in the Browns, when I first got there, it threw me in the craziest, stankiest number you could ever imagine. I had to, I was in number 40. And then I had to get that thing off to Peyton Hillis, and I bought number 23 for 20 bands. As a rookie, I bought that joint for 20 bands. And then when I came to Pittsburgh, my man, Mike Mitchell, shout out Mike Mitchell. I tried to buy 23 off Mike Mitchell. right what do you say what do you say oh do you want to know oh i got a oh yeah so first i tried to pop off boom i got 20 bands for you mike not rocking laugh that day laughed at 20 all right

all right question i got 50 for you mike laughed at that i got 75 for you mike laughed at that last thing mike because he know he got to buy another number we got rob g there 21 i say my god i got 200 bands for you, Mike. He was like, no, I got my foundation and everything under my jersey, under two, three. I said, oh, man, well, I can't do nothing for you then. So then Mike kept the 23. That's what my rookie year, I had 21, ended up buying it off Rob G for the 20 bands. Rob G was Gucci.

No question. You know what I'm saying? He went to 20. Like nothing happened. Oh, he was ecstatic. Took that 20 so fast. Rob G. Great man.

Love Rob G. So now I was in the 21 and then next year they ended up letting go my man Mike Mitchell and then I got 23 for free That was the crazy part Yeah, I don't know, I ain't go lie I might have somebody offered me Yeah, bro I try to start up in 20

I'm laughing me so hard So then I just tried to go 50. I ain't go lie, I'd laugh too But once you got to that 100 I would have been like Man look Mike I don't look Because he was like man It's just a number

I don't have nothing Mike for you I'm gonna get you this $100,000 and you're going to give me number 23. Cash. Ah, cash! In your hand. $100,000 American currency. Cash in your hand.

Bile. Dollars. And he said, ah, no. No, after that, I just, I'm going number 21. Yeah, so I went to, uh, what was it, New England? And it was a dude that had 92. And I'm like, yo, let me, you know, let me get 92 what you want for. Yeah.

Hey, I don't even remember what his name was, but he blessed you, boy. You know what he said? What are he saying? Three grand. Oh, you need to send him a Christmas card. I can't remember his name, bro. Man, we got to find whoever was 92 when you went there, we can find him because I love him. I ain't going to lie.

I ain't going to lie to you. I wasn't going to pay much. No, no, no, for sure, for sure. He said right around the number. He was like this. That three was cool, though. That three bans, he was like, Hey, he said,

if it depended over the doubt, I wasn't going to be like, no, man, what? I'm here for like two months, bro. You, he was like, yeah,

he was like three. I'm like, say less here. Cash out my. Oh, for sure. Cash out for you three, bad. Dang.

No question, dude. Yeah, but I ain't going to lie. That's crazy. He showed a lot. I thought he was going, I thought he was going to do something, you know.

something not of control oh my goodness no debo i'm happy for your story yeah oh no yes i'm out 40 for two numbers here's the crazy thing so when i unretired i came back and it was a guy that i believe he had 92 but he hadn't made like uh like active or whatever it was so it basically just you know just got it from me oh they just kids however however that went if he was actually active, I wouldn't have been able to switch into the number, like, when I came in. So, because of the timing of the season when it started. So if he had actually got active and onto the field, he would have been holding onto the number, yeah. Oh, that's it worked out perfectly.

Oh, yeah, dude, that worked out to no end, bro. Yeah. So my guy R.C. says that Tom Brady was not a generational talent at quarterback. at. This can be right. Is this real? He said, I think John Elway was a generational talent. I think Patrick Mahon is a generational talent. I don't think Tom Brady. I don't think Drew Brees. I don't think Peyton Manning or generational talents. I didn't hear this. He said this on TV. I didn't. That's what it's saying that was said. I didn't. I didn't. That's what it's saying that was said. I I don't,

huh? I think does he say, I can see Drew Brees, but not like, huh? I think, was he saying like, does he have to see athleticism to be a generational? I don't know, man. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,

do not understand the whole concept of it. I'm trying to, I'm trying to, he said, she said to me. Yeah, I'm trying to find out how it could only be athletically. Athletically? Yeah. Dude, if I'm talking about the position of quarterback and I'm like all the intangibles of what I need as a quarterback. And I have a line to protect him.

I have a running game to assist him. My quarterback, I'm not going to look. lie to you. It's going to be Tom Brady. He's going to walk you down the field and win. Yeah. Like, he's going to see it, get to it. You know? And he did it again in Tampa. Oh,

40. I just Hey, I don't know. I don't know why he would say that about Tom. I have no clue, brother. Yep. I'm going to let that one go. I ain't too. So my little Marry Cooper, he told, I can relate to this.

I ain't going to live, dude, I could relate to this. So, Ramari Cooper informed a team that he no longer has a desire to play and intends to retire, right? Mm-hmm. What do you think of that? Didn't he just signed like a week ago, right? I don't. Did he just sign?

And he just retired? With the Raiders, right? I believe it was. Went back to, yeah, I want to say it was a week ago. So he had to be there so, like, yeah. I mean, you know what it is? If he just signed a week ago, that means he didn't do training camp, didn't do none of that. So he went back, got into the grind, and really was like, ah, you know, like, I don't, I don't, I don't love it.

It's about to be a whole season to this, you know, and I mean, he's played 10 years of Mara Kube at the end of the day, got it. I mean, he made some money, you know, and at the end of the day, nobody, they're not getting any slower. They're not getting any weaker out there. These dudes are out there jump trying to get it, everybody, every year. New NFL season. The NFL is not a game. It's not nowhere you just, oh, yeah, I'm just jumping on there

and just go play with these things. No, you're going to get hurt. You're going to get smacked out there. They're not playing. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not a game. They're playing no game? No, you don't just go play football,

NFL football. No, that's a business decision when you go out there joint that you're making with your body and your life. It's a 100% business decision. But it's also, well, for me, when I came back in, unretired. I was done. I was good, bro. And I had, you know, I had Kiesel call me. It's like, you know,

4.30 in the morning. I'm getting up to get ready to go work out. I get a call. He's like, hey, you're ready to come back? I'm like, no, what you're talking about? Man, we got this down, we got that down. I'm like, I don't, hey, brother, I don't know what you're talking about. I ain't coming back. It's, you know, I'm done bun. And then, you know, I got a call from Troy. And Troy's like, Yo, we're going to need you to come back and da-da-da-da-da-da. I'm like, Troy, listen, brother,

I'm not coming back. I'm good, bro. I'm happy. I'm out here living life. You know what I'm feeling good, bro. And then I called me. He's fresh out of surgery. He just broke his form.

And he's like, bro, we need you. I say, all right, hold up. So I tell you, I tell you all what I do. It's a good feeling to be wanted, brother. You got the home he's hitting you. Well, you know, I play so long with them, dude. my brothers. You know, my kids call them uncle. That's uncles. Them uncles. That's Uncle Troy. That's Uncle. That's Uncle Keys. Like, those are, they're, you know, they're, uh, they're uncles.

So I'm like, you know what? I don't want to feel like I'm letting my brothers down. I said, but and my kids say, no, bro, that's going to be it. I'm not, I'm not doing it. So I'm like, I'm going to call my kids. I'm going to see what they say. And I'm like, if they say no, that's it. If they say, yeah, then, you know, I do it. And I was after I had already, you know, spent that year in Cincinnati, and I really, you know, I really just didn't want to be away. So I called my kids. I'm like, yo, hey, I actually had them on FaceTime, made sure it was recorded. I had to show proof when they said no, which I just knew there was going to say no, right?

You know what I said? I'm like, hey, you know, daddy got a chance to, you know, come back and play football. So you guys, you would have to wait, you know, to get into your contact football. you still be doing flag, all that, whatever. It was like, okay, but where, you know, where it's going to be? I'm like, it's in Pittsburgh. It's like, all right, cool, yeah, yeah, yeah, you could do that. I'm like, damn, they hype.

They did not do it. So get into fast forward into that first week where Amari is at right now. Dude, at first week, I was supposed to get like 15 snaps. So I'm preparing myself. But as I'm going through that week of practice, bro, the second day, I come in, you know, the sorting is setting in for the next day, but it don't really set in till that Thursday, dude, if it wasn't for the fact that my daddy told me you start, you finish what you start, I was going to give them whatever they wanted

to let me get up out of there. Like, my body was hurting so bad, dude, and I was only out of it for like an off-season and like maybe the first two, three weeks of the season, dude, bruh, you're talking about taking anything I could to try and kill the pain, trying to knock down the inflammation, the swelling, laying in, like, I was cold plunging before cold plunging was cool, but I was to my neck up in that thing, bro. Like, I'm just, and I'm, I'm sitting there, I'm sitting at my locker. And so we go through the week We end up playing Tampa

And Coach Teague comes through the locker room So now, you know, I'm into the second week I'm feeling better, I'm feeling good And he's like, how are you feeling? I'm like, oh, I'm good, no, he said, yeah He said, I was going to come over and talk to you on Thursday, he said, but It looked like you was making decisions in your head

And I didn't want to give you an opportunity To step out of this It was all over your eyes It was all over my face, man. Man, I guess he, man, yeah, so when you get into that, especially when him being out of it, just signing that week, I totally understand what he's talking about. I could see how it could happen because, like I said, I was in that position and that is not an easy position to be, especially as you get older, man. You're like, I got this sitting in the bank, man, do I really want to do this? You know, and for me, I continue because, you know, your body hardened back up to it.

And then, like he said, I fell back in love with the process, the game and all that. Ended up signing a couple more years. And even when I went to New England, dude, I could have went back to New England. And Bill was like, I want to bring you back, but I want to wait until after the draft so that I don't tell you something that's not true. I'm going to be able to tell you exactly what your role is going to be. So, you know, I want to sign you after the draft. And that way, you know, I won't tell you anything that's not true. we can go from there.

I'm like, all right, cool. And the more I sat back, I'm like, dude, I just don't want to be away from home again. And it's just not something I want to do. And I was like, you know what? I got to retire because if he offers it to me, I know I'm going to take it because I love the game. I want to play the game.

And I was like, yeah, I got to retire before that happens. Because once I started, I got to finish it. No, for sure. Man, that's good, though, Devo, that you can even do that. Your body, the way that you work out, the way that you maintain yourself, though, It's a true testament. I ain't going to lie.

Because once I stopped and I retired, I stopped, like, the treatment just to taking care of my body to be able to stay elite. Like, there's no offseason when you're in the NFL. So when you stop, for real and, like, stop working out, stop getting that massage and stop getting that treatment, then I did it for a year. And then once that happened, then my body was kind of, I was out of the way. But I could tell you still lifting up the whole gym.

So I could tell you you be still staying in the shape. Yeah, I ain't lifting up the hole, Jim. I'm still taking care of my body, though. I'm just not doing it, you know, to the level that I was when I was playing. I'm not, you know, I'm not seeing a chiropractor twice a week. I'm not seeing, you know, my docs and, you know, for IVs and all that stuff twice a week. I'm doing, you know, acupuncture, dry needle in every week, all that, you know. I'm doing normal massage maybe once a week, some acupuncture, you know, once a week.

I'll see my Cairo, you know, maybe. It depends on how I feel, to be honest with you. You know, it may be every, you know, month, every couple months. It just really, it just really depends on how I feel. How often are you working out, Debo? That's what I need to know. Five to six days a week. Well, five to seven days a week.

Okay, okay. It just, yeah, it just depends. Is it like actual weightlifting, actual weight lifting, though, it's only five days a week. I cut that down. It used to be six. So I'm Monday through Friday with weights. and, you know, cardio, whatever it may be, you know, through to a six-day. I got to get to the gym with my dad.

My dad was like, I would love to get in the gym with Debo. They watch. You probably watch a lot of shout out Pops with that one. Pops, Debo, I'm definitely getting y'all in the gym together, and I'm going to film the workout. It's going to be amazing. That's good. I know you got one right there.

I know you got a gym there. You know what I mean. Speaking of the gym, man, hey, they say that Boxing Legend Mike Tyson, Florida, they're about to get it on. The exhibition, I believe it's 2026 next year. Not a date set, but it's supposed to be Floyd and Mike Tyson.

What do you think of that, man? They're going to get my money. I'm going to watch. You know what I'm saying? But what we got going on here, man? I just seen Mike and that drink. I'm glad my man didn't try to knock. Buddy, Jake Paul could have knocked out Mike Tyson and they fight. Like, that

dream was not, it was a little bit sad to see. I don't know. Mike. See, I'm trying to I don't want to see Mike in a situation. I think Floyd might I don't know. I don't know if the, you know, the contract kind of set up so he needed to make it go a while, you know what I'm saying? So

I don't know if that was really you know, I just can't I ain't sure, bro. Like, if that was, because I seen him training, I seen him doing this year. Bropping him. He can give you Mike. He can give you a minute of that. He's getting

older, Debo. I'm I'm just saying. He ain't even give him a minute, though. He was in the Jones. If he gave him a minute. I ain't, I ain't see none of this training, Joyce. He didn't give me no curries. He didn't give me no furies.

I needed to see him. Let him fly. Let him fly, Mike. He was doing all that. I ain't see none of that. I didn't see none of that. I don't know. I just want to see hands with you.

I don't even know if I want to, I would want to see this. Like, I don't know. Floyd, too, though. But I'm telling him Floyd don't play. I like Floyd. Floyd got actual hands. Listen, so I'm just saying, he might, he's going to sit there. Boy, he's going to sit there and tag Mike's ass.

But it's going to be like, you know, like a little bumble, like little stings. Right. It's going to be like little stings, you know, it ain't even that. Man, how many, I need to know how many rounds. I need to know how many rounds, the length of the round. Come on. Listen, man, why are your boy Chad up here talking crazy last night about fighting me, man? Take a listen to this, bro. Oh, please, let me hear. You know who I spit on? I'm going to spit on Debo.

Oh. I'm going to make him fight me. I'm going to fight. He going to fight you all right. You got to do that. No, no, no, no, no. Because I want him extremely mad. I want him angry. I want him to exert so much energy trying to to hurt me, where I use it against him, because I'm going to be nice and calm and relaxed. I don't know, not no MMA, you ain't going to be nice, calm, and relaxed. Man, all right, you don't believe in your co-host? They don't need you want to, man. Yeah, I bet the chat believe in me.

Chat, I believe in my coach. I guarantee you, I beat Debo ass. I guarantee you, tell you, man. Man, I got no, he don't got, he don't got no combat sports background like me. Hell Oh Hey man He liked to hear himself talk man

That man spit on me It ain't a rule in this world That's going to stop me from trying to kill his ass I saw it for my own eyes I wouldn't believe that he said it If I didn't just see it Bro Bro

You beyond You beyond fight rules I am going to try and take your life Oh, no, Deepo. Oh, yes. But you are, you, when you say, no, no, I'm beyond hands and feet, bro. Oh, no, no, no. I'm going to try and take your life.

They're going to have to choke me out to get me off of you. I'm stressing out. It ain't nothing to stress out about it. You know what I'm stressing out about? What you're stressing out about? Powerball of $1.7 billion. Got to be more getting, I need that. I already got a ticket.

I got my tickets already bought up until I think it's October, the end of October. How many numbers you got to put in for the power ball? Six. Okay. All right. Yeah. I got two of them right now. I'm going 23, 92.

Ain't no 92. You got to flip it around, 29. Okay. You could flip it around. You could go, you could go 23, 92. I mean, sorry, 23, 29. You could go 9 and 2. Okay.

Then 9. Then two, then three. No, you get a, yeah, your power ball be a two. Hmm. So how many numbers we have now? All right. 22, three, two, nine, four, five, six, seven. Three.

We only need six, though. Okay. It's five and one. 23, 29. That's four. And then I'm going to do nine two. No, no, no, no, brother. That's them two numbers, Joe, them two numbers.

Oh. I ain't never played the power ball So 23 and 29 will be two numbers Nine is a number Nine is one Two can be one And then three can be your other one Okay so that's one two, three, four, five

That's five numbers Right Okay, no that's six And then two is my power ball Yeah Okay, right, yes Hold on, let's do it like this 2392 hey man

I'm gonna be mad than them if this hit, because we're about to tell everybody how you're about to play these numbers. They probably go play that same shit. All right, listen, we go run it like this. We're going to run it like this. It's going to be 23. Uh-huh. It's going to be nine. Uh-huh. It's going to be two.

Uh-huh. We go bump that back with a 32, a 29. And since we both got two and a our number, the power ball to two.

But it's book. It's book. Debo, we hit with this one, bro. I'm going to be the happiest man. Hey, man. Ever. I'm going to, you got to write, you got to send that, send me what I just told you to put down there

because I'm going to have to play that number, bro. I got you. Listen, if we hit this, the subscribers, whoever subscribed right now, we're going to look out. Y'all better subscribe. If we hit this, you know what I'm going to do? I'm gonna pay you to come

fight me and I'm gonna pay you good money so everybody could watch me whip your ass boy you hear me whip your ass hey

hey guys we want to thank y'all for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe we need y'all to go over there hit that like button hit that subscribe button and we're going to get back to y'all Monday and we're going to be half a billion

And we out this mother. We out. And make sure y'all like, make sure y'all subscribe, or I'm going to have my good man, Dibo, put hands and feet on you. Yeah, like I'm going to do with Chad. You looking. Hey, just close his eye because I know you blind in it.

Let him live, Debo. Let him live. No, matter of fact, no, he cheated. He doesn't spit on me. I'm showing you something. You know what? You're right. You're right.

You're right. You're right. You know, let me stop. Go crazy, Bibo. Let me stop. I was tripping. I was tripping. You know what?

Hey, I want to thank my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for being here for me and actually coming and showing me that I was tripping. Hey, I would never, I would never, I could like to say I would never do that. But if I was in that situation and he did that, I don't know if I could control myself. But I'm working on, I'm building my relationship with my Lord and Savior man. The more I talk and spend time with. with him, man. The better things get and the better I feel, man. So listen, man, God bless all y'all, man. Y'all have a beautiful day. Chad, you have a beautiful day. Brother, love you. We are.