Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - REACTION to Steelers beating the Browns, Ravens dropping to 1-5, Tua postgame

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to a wild NFL Sunday! The Pittsburgh Steelers beat the Cleveland Browns, the Kansas City Chiefs beat the Lions on Sunday night Football, and the Packers dominate Joe Flacco and the Cincinnati Bengals and much more! Timeline: 00:00 - Steelers beat Browns20:20 - Rams beat Ravens29:10 - Colts Pregame Warmup Injuries36:00 - Chargers beat Dolphins - Tua Snitch47:40 - Denver Beats Jets55:55 - Chiefs beat Lions (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #Nightcap See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hahn. Make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. How you doing, Joe? Man, Debo, I'm doing great, man.

Every teddy, I knew to look at my phone and expect a call. I was, look, like I said, Debo, I wanted a good football game. You were sending me, you were sending me, you were sending me, you were sending me, you were sending me to the, you were sending me to the voicemail and everything else. After the first, I got the first point after the first three tuddies, you was calling me just trying to just rub it in. Like, I was all brownie, brownie, brownie. I had love for both teams. Okay, I got to, I got to, Debo, I got to watch you. I got to watch you, bro.

I got to watch you. What you got to watch me for? Joe, I'm just trying to figure out where you at, you know? You know, I'm, I am, I played for the Steelers. So this is what it, this is what it comes down to for real, Lebo. I understand now as a fan, as a fan watching the games, I understand how the Steelers fans feel and I understand how the Browns fans feel. It's a way more chill feeling when you're a Steelers fan because you're expecting, you know what's going to happen, it's real smooth. Browns fans, that's just, it's just, it's.

It was bad. It was just bad ball. So we don't get into it, but my, my, I just know, am I still this vibe? I'm all the way. That shit looked amazing. My Brown's vibe, they got things to, they, there's things to be talked about on that side. Okay. So it's things to be talked.

So you go over here and there's things to be talked about over here is what you're saying. Okay. So now you're listening. Okay. So what I want to do is go ahead. I guess, you know, and, uh, and, uh, and, you know. getting to the game, baby, you know. That's, of course, the Steelers beat the Browns.

What was that? 23 to 9. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Brown still can't school over 17. Hold up. What?

What you're doing, boy? This boy, dude, every time we play the Browns, I got to remove everything that's orange out of here. This dude pulls down his pants and starts pissing on stuff. Man, Joe, give me. Me a minute, bro. You're so much a dog. Oh, my God, dude.

Hey, what you doing? I'm on a live podcast. Get down. You fought with your ass. And you don't piss on my shelf, too, boy. And Debo's looking at me, and they mad at me about not being a dog guy. You're going to talk about whipping me for pissing on orange. Ain't you the one that slammed that Browns fan?

And I didn't even know you still had a Cincinnati Bengals helmet. I'm going to piss on that next. Get your ass out of my room. Go! Go! Get out of here. Debo. Get your dog

Don't slam my dog Damn My bad You gotta get control In your household My brother Hold up My bad Joe

That boy That boy was up over there Pissing on orange And all that See All right Anyway Here let me get back

To where I was at Like I said Distillers Whipped on the Browns 23 to 9 And you know what You know what You know what

You know what happened The first play Was like foreshadowing You know I saw First play We go on head. We ain't hit that tight-in.

I don't know how many games. And we hit him for 36, babe. We hit him for 36 on the first play. They ain't even know what to do. The boy's seven feet tall, so I don't know how they miss covering it. It was a great play, bro. They motioned them inside. He inserted, you know what I'm saying?

And then they had a new cornerback that we got back there. He had a long, long day. He made some great plays out there. Long day, got a little confusing in coverage. And your man, Washington ran straight down on the same. seven route wide open. So they just busted off. First, like, missed coverage.

Browns let us supposed to play still has made it look easy. Oh, yeah. We started out a little bit. So we only got three. We only got three. Yeah. And then we, you know, Cleveland come back. And, you know, we think we're off of there on that third down there completion.

But they caught a, they caught TJ in the neutral zone. So that made it third to five, gave them an opportunity. I think the next one was a 12-yard completion to continue to drive. You know. But, you know, we do a bend, Ben, Ben, but don't necessarily break. Plus, Cleveland, they, you know, they return to favor with the unnecessary roughness. They wanted to get tough with a little peasy, so that had them stall it out. They had to punt the rock.

And you know who we are, man. We're the Pittsburgh Steelers, you know? Us. I'm not putting you in this. You understand. Yep. I just want to believe. Defense is brought the beginning, man.

And the Browns, at the end of the day, it was Bemba Don't Break. Still is Ben, but don't break. Defenses did good. The first two drives, they made sure they had to punt, flags all over the place. Then we had to, yeah, like you said, we had the punt return. Stilis had a great punt return, blind side block.

I think that he did a pretty good block. I don't think Pepper's tried to, you know what I'm saying? That ain't a blind side block. He was on his side, dude, and he's turned. Yes, that's what I'm saying. He did the way that they teach him. Like, you put your back on him, you throw your hands up. So I think that was a bad call.

you know, A-Raw hit D.K. McHad for a couple of plays, but they had to punt. Brown's defense was playing good at the beginning at the beginning of the game, too. But you can only do but so much. I mean, it's okay, Joe, because I'm hearing a lot more frustration than I am happiness. Because that Jalen Brown sack right there on that first down to go ahead and put them behind the chains, have him force him kick that good punt. And you know what happened right then. the second quarter, we started with 11-play drive.

But we ended up settling for a field goal again. That's what you keep saying that. I'm like 11-play drive was looking good in the red zone. You was getting to the red zone, moving the ball, but it was tough to get it in there. Hey, the pressure was coming. Hey, third down, right? Immediately the next possession, we get that third down sack, man. Get up out of there.

What happened? We go ahead and drive down the field again, man. It's 10 yards. It's 10 plays, but we end up selling for another field goal. Warren. That's nine. That's bank, that's bank, that's bank, that's bank, roll, that's bank, roll, shout out bankroll boss. Bank, bank, ball's was on the money.

Boom. Do you know what I'm saying? He had 44, 50, 48. So y'all got in there doing good, but Boswell was able to knock down in the field goal. Okay, good. You're making me feel some type of way, you know, you know what? Y'all right before halftime, you know, y'all got, y'all got lucky. 16, like 72 yards.

And like you say, our defense, my defense, still a defense, little bin, don't break, halftime, three to nine, looks like a close game. It really isn't as close as it is. Hey, but I'm going to tell you this,

Debo, going into halftime, no, don't lie. I'm not going to lie. The, our Steelers were smacking the Browns coming across the middle. Like, there were some alligator arms

that started coming to a way. Hey, the tight end was one of them. Man, he hit my man Joku in his heart, firm. And I didn't know if he was going to get up, lost his wind and everything. He came back in the game. But then Jerry Judy, some of them, like, he was coming across those middle. He was throwing those passes, Dillon. And you seen him do's like looking at the safety instead of looking at the rock a couple of times.

So, I mean, I think the still is banging, hitting out there, was making some of them arms get a little short, getting a little tight, looking for the rock. Oh, yeah, for sure. But y'all helped us out on that punt when we came back. back in the second half, dude. Yes, yes, yes. That right there was a huge turning point, buddy. Allowed us to go down there, score that touchdown.

Connor Hayward, 12-yard touchdown. Brother. Brother. That right there, Debo, was actually beautiful. And that was the part when I was looking at the game, like, end of the day, defense playing good. Both defenses are playing well, you know what I'm saying? Like, Vimba don't break.

But that's the point where Aaron Rogers, was scrambling, making plays, like, I don't give a damn. I'd rather the ball be in his hands than Dylan Gabriel because it's just like their offense, he's going to make something happen. He's not going to mess it up, but he's also going to give us a reason to win. Like, there's a difference between not messing it up. Zero, you see right, Dylan Gabriel, zero touchdowns, zero picks. That's not losing, but that's not winning.

You know what I'm saying? Like Aaron Rogers, if the balls in his hands, you just feel like he's scrambling, directing traffic, told him like, oh, no, no, no, go about it. like this way Hayward spinning that joint beautifully touchdown so that that part right there looked sick and that's when I was looking at the Steelers like this you know what guys obviously they have the defense they have now the running back you got game well he was toting it and Warren was toting the ball so he had a run game he had the receiver uh DK Metcab going crazy big Washington getting him involved it just looked like an overall team it was a team

effort, even though they didn't make it, and they made it to the red zone, a lot in the first half, was able to get field goals, weren't able to score, but just consistency. Still, like, still. Yeah, because after that touchdown, they ended up going down and scoring a field goal, made a 616, but again, you know, we're the Pittsburgh Steelers. We ain't going, we ain't going to do nothing halfway. And that, that man, that man, um, that man showed off again. Uh-huh.

D.K. Metcalfe, 25-yard touchdown. Hey, you know what's so crazy, though? Is this cigar is called. The brand is my father. And that's what we are for the Browns. And the actual name of this one is the judge. And we judged y'all wanting and needing and we whipped that ass. But anyway, let me get back to that good 25-yard D.K.

Touchdown that put us up 23. The six, man. And again, man, the defense allows 16, 18 play dry, two penalties, helped them, you know, extend the drive on positions, points third down where we thought we were going to be able to get off the field. But, hey, man, but don't break. Nine to 23, I could take that. Not really, though.

They come back out, and we do it three and out, bro. Three and out. Yeah. This is what I'm trying to say. The Brown's defense can only do but so much. like we're not saying that the Steelers offense play amazing did the best they could have definitely did better but i mean it's just it's a flow of a game you're not going to be able to go blow the brown's defense out that's a good ass defense out there and when they keep giving opportunities back to their offensive side of the ball and you get nothing you get Nathaniel how the hell you're going to win like that so that's why i'm looking at it like it was a team effort when you know when the Steelers new if when they get a stop it's offense defense special teams working together you get a stop you're putting the ball in erin rogers's hands and you believe he's going to be able to get a touchdown. He's going to be able to get points. He's going to be able to get first downs, move the ball down the field. And then, end of the day, if you don't, Bankroll

is going to knock down the field goal. So it's team ball and things are just going to be like everybody's working together. On the brown side, it just looks like the defense is out there fighting for your life. And if you keep giving somebody love and hooking them up and they ain't giving you nothing, that's demoralizing. You can't score at all, like no touchdowns. You know what I'm saying? So it's just a bad feeling. It's a bad feeling. I mean, you had an opportunity there. Well, not really, but drop passes, too. Yes, yes.

A lot of drop passes. And then we had a chance to really just shut it out. And the field at Acresher helped out the Browns. Man. My dude, lose this footing. Take balls for a whole cleat out the ground. Man, ain't no telling what can have. We're so crazy.

They ain't the worst that field's been. 2007, dude, that field was so bad. The ball got stuck in it straight up. A punt, bro. I swear, straight up and up, like it was crazy. Plug like a golf shot. Yeah, for sure. And basically, after that, the 9 to 23, we hold strong.

It ends their game basically over with. But the Pittsburgh still is offense. Yes. Listen, hey, they did a better job of run blocking. Mm-hmm. They protect the quarterback zero. Sacks. Miles Garrett only had two tackles, no pressures, no hits on the quarterback. Like, what are you talking about? And that is from our tackle that has been having a down season. He has gave up the most sacks out of any tackle in the league, but he didn't get none to your guy. You know why? Because we fly high when the orange in the sky. You understand? We got a hundred yards combined rushing. I'm going to take it. It ain't from one person, but I'm going to take it. And then you know what we did? We got the tight ends involved.

Washington was three for 62. He actually had five targets, okay? Smith was three for 18. Connor had a touchdown for 12. Flyer move had one for 11. Washington was the second leading receiver on the team. That's why he was wide open. They're like, yo, he's coming out the block.

No, he ain't just coming out the block. We're going to show you that he can do more than what y'all think he can do. And now you got to worry about them tight ends. Now you then gave Aaron more targets. Aaron was greatly effective. You're talking 21 or 30, 2.35, two touchdowns. Here we go, Steelers. Here we go.

Hey. And that defense now. Six sacks. Six sacks. Six sacks. Hey, listen, we played the run better. I know they only rushed 17 times, but we played it better. We ain't good.

Why in the world? is what I'm trying to figure out is why they have him pass the ball, like 52 times. Why they had that boy pass ball? You think a rookie go coming. I understand he got a lot of games under his belt and all the other stuff. It's a different thing, you know what I'm saying, when you get to the league.

You go have him coming here and think he'll pass on the Pittsburgh still as 52 times, and you go win that game, not to mention that our defense dropped three, four picks that they had in their hands that they should have came up with. You took the words out of my, you took the word on my mouth with that one. But, hey, all in all, we, the Pittsburgh Steelers, is getting better every week. And that's all we need to do is keep inclining so that when we get to that point, when it's elimination time, we're shooting off like a rocket. No. That is correct, Debo.

The Stiller's good and Rodgers look better. Everything you said is correct. getting the tight ends involved even if they run for 100 yards it doesn't matter it's just giving the ball up making sure you keep that thing going no matter if you're giving it to jailing

or gain well just making sure you got a run game that's effective and just keep handing the ball off so they got to make sure that they watch for that so I'm not mad at the Steelers at all they did they did great and it's looking like they're doing better and better

like I said too how you think Dylan Gabriel do expect him to come into the first place that you haven't won in 22 times there and dealt the ball 52 times and when. That's not going to work. And then we dropped, like you said, too, zero touchdowns, zero picks, but it hit

about three distillers upside the head. My man, Junior, Joey Porter, Junior had one smooth, we had one. The defensive end, my man, 51, he had one. It's just a lot of hosts that could have easily been picked. We're not, Junkins ran the ball 12 times for 36 yards. Like, we got to get him more opportunities. there's no way that he's going to walk into that game and be able to go against the Steelers

and especially when behind the sticks, when we're letting them dudes blitz, knowing the lines looking crazy, knowing our tackles are having a tough time, blocking SWAT, blocking Highsmith, blocking Cam, blocking any of them dudes. You know what I'm saying? So that was not, it was a coaching error.

You can't come in there with a game plan thinking you're going to win with the rookie quarterback. Well, why are you surprised that it's a coach in there? I'm not a coach didn't even know who the hell his backup was. Coach, Debo, Debo, Debo. I'm not surprised. I'm just stating what's happening. I understand what you're saying.

I'm puffing on a cigar that ain't even lit, but that's how good I feel, Joe. That's how good I feel. I could feel what it feel like because I just feel so good today. I got two. So when we're not put on my Steelers hat, that was, that's the ball that we're looking for.

Like Jalen Ramsey out there making sacks. Everybody communicates. That drill looks, kept them out of the end zone. Obviously, it wasn't maybe too hard because the Brown's offense wasn't really too effective. Dylan Gabriel did do a pretty good job, but he could have thrown three picks. Some of his passes were still errant.

And I think he's going to be, he's not a bad. He's going to be solid. He's going to be good. I don't think the Browns are helping him in any way with his progression of becoming a better quarterback right now. And that's not to say, I want, if they push your door on there. Only two games, three games, whatever it is. No, no, for sure, for sure.

But I'm saying 52 times versus Steelers. and then the first joined in London, like handing the ball. That was a better process than this. If they were to came in giving the ball off the junk, he'd had at least 20 carries, then that's like, okay, bet you're not trying to set my man back, but you made him throw 52 times, get sacked six times.

You got hit upside the head 17 times. Like, that's not. So what it came down to, man, is this. Our defense played better than your defense. Because we played against the Brown's offense, which is, I mean, it's a professional football team, but it is the Browns' offense. It's the same team who hasn't scored more than 17 points

in the last 11 games straight. So, I mean, it's to be expected. And I don't see why they would have been able to score 17 points on us, you know. That's just a hard nature of Browns playing the Steelers. I mean, Lebo, I mean, look, I'm not here to argue with you. I'm not here today. I'm not here to argue. I'm not here to state how I feel about the Browns situation,

and then I'm here to state how I feel about the Steelers. Steelers are looking good, and I would know why you expect for the Browns to play the Steelers hard because that's a division game, and every time they come over there, anything can happen. But once the game gets to going and people get to making the plays and you see what's going on in the football field, I was not expecting for the Steelers to get that game away. They just looked like they were getting warming up, getting their will right,

And then next thing, you know, A-Rod started doing A-Rod's stuff. And that's just not what we had on the offensive side of the ball for the Browns. So, yep, still is a leading to division, and it don't look like it's going to be changing anytime soon. No question. It's speaking of the division, the Ravens got popped too. But I will say this, watching the game, brother, looking at it. Going back and forth in between, I'm looking the first possession, dude. And Baltimore comes out there, and I'm like, oh, they're getting back to Baltimore football.

Oh, sure. Derek Henry right. There can rewrite. Derek Henry left. Derek can rewrite. Derek can rewrite. Derek can we let. They get a holding penalty that stalls them out.

They end up settling for three. Okay. Okay. It's looking all right. It's looking all right. L.A. comes out. They move it a little, but they missed the field goal, right? Cool.

I'm like, all right, the Ravens getting the ball back. You know, I don't want them to be too sorry, you know, because we still got to at least have a little competition, something good for the fans to see. Don't nobody want to go to the game. It's 21 nothing before the first quarter over with. And the Ravens come out there, and yo boy, rush throws that interception. And it kind of felt like after that, L.A. was like,

yo, y'all ain't going to one-up us on this. Go ahead and get the sad fumble. Baltimore recovered the ball, give it back to him. Hey, and they went on. The Raiders defense definitely played better. Oh, yeah. They played better. They played better.

They played better. I thought Matthew Stafford was going to pick them apart. But like you said, when they had that strip sack, when they were trying to get down in the score, I'm like, okay, look, better, better Ravens defense. So I had to make sure we get them a little bit of luck because they've been looking the worst in the entire league by far. but they stepped up a little bit versus the Rams. Yeah, they end up going for it, though, that next session.

I believe it was fourth. Fourth and I want to say it might have been one given. No. Yeah, they went forward on fourth down and they didn't make it. But I think at that point in time, it might have gave them a shorter field. They ended up tying it up 3-3. And the Ravens get the ball back, and they just, just totally forget about Derek Henry.

I don't know what happened at the date. They just forgot about what they did the first couple possessions and how it helped them out. And immediately the Rams helped them out too. They just went on here, did a quick three and out. So Ravens get the rock back. They're like, oh yeah, I don't forgot. We got Derek Henry.

So they go on here, start handing that man to rock again. But again, dude, on fourth and one, they get zero points at the one yard line. Yes, this is when they did, they did the touch push on the third down. And then your man, Derek Hamby tried to run it on the fourth down and lost the yard. Oh, wow. So that right there could have got you, you know, could have got you three points if you went on ahead and went for it. Because immediately beginning the third quarter, the Rams drive on down there, nine plays, 76 yards, get the tutty.

also they got help because uh puka ended up getting hurt like yeah they didn't they didn't have to deal with him that whole game and then the dude your boy at rush you come out fumble the ball give it right back to the Rams on the 21 and they score another tutty I guess they got tired and set him down buddy that was that that was all I guess they could take yeah no for sure They ain't do too much, man, on the offensive side. But like you said, I'm blaming that when you know you don't have Lamar Jackson. Keep handing the ball off Derek Henry, untail.

Just keep giving them, just keep giving it to him. He was eating. Like, you got to show me something different. For sure. They don't, you ain't got to really show him nothing different. I think they ended up getting a new office coordinator this year. So the guy that was there last year did what he was doing. And I think he, the new guy there finally was like,

yo, I guess we got to run a rock if we're going to have a chance. Yeah. You know, even then, it was still 17, you know, 17 to 3. They had an opportunity. I think it was a fourth down they went for, ended up getting sat. And, you know, from there, Raven started driving the ball. I believe they turned it over on downs. And, you know, it ain't no more than just under four minutes left.

You know, it's basically over with after that. But the big thing for the Ravens is, I think for the offense, that first possession, they started getting back to Baltimore football, you know, running, running Derek Henry, you know, the way he should, using Derek Henry, the way he should be, you know, the way he should be run or used, I should say. Yeah. And then, you know, the, um, the defense. They played better, but you need a little bit more in situational things, I guess, to get down with you, what you're trying to accomplish. I don't think they took as much planning as they needed to try and finish it out. blood. And they also, they hurt too. I can give them that, but they were still playing bad before he got hurt. No, for sure, for sure. If your offense isn't doing too well, brother,

if your offense ain't doing good, your defense ain't doing good, I mean, it's not a good, it's not a good winner recipe to win games. And your defense isn't playing really, really bad. You lose your best officer threat, Lamar Jackson. Right now, they're just trying to stay afloat. Right. They're hoping to get him back after Dubai. So, I mean, that's the only, that's the only chance they got when you look at it you know over the last what three weeks they've been outscored 98 to 33 like you can't you can't win like that no debo you can't it's only what does they one and five it's only been one team since the since you know they started the new format of 14 playoff teams that made the playoffs that was one and five and that was Washington in 2020 they

started one and five and made the playoffs right you're making the playoffs I that you know no no sir and it's not like like you said the defense they hopefully they start getting some players back Lamar jacks has to come back then Lamar Jackson the offense was they weren't like blowing people out when he was there and the defense wasn't playing good so hopefully if the defense can start playing better and he comes back with a flow all right how much better you want the defense to play though they already number one Joe defense for the ravens oh I'm tripping I'm thinking I'm thinking to Baltimore sorry I mean I'm thinking of Cleveland sorry yeah no I'm talking about the ravens They're like the opposite.

They're probably 30. Oh, yeah. They're last. I think they're 31 or 32. They got to do. They have a way to get a hold. They have a lot of room of improvement. If they can get better and start tightening it up like they did in this game and

Lamar comes back and performs at a high level, they have to win out, though. Like, there's not, when he gets back, they're one and five. They have to go basically down and undefeated because. Do you think he still comes back if the hamstring is a little if he? Uh-oh. I think if they keep. losing and they lose another they keep if it's he his hamstring you it needs to be healed a hundred percent anyway you know what I'm saying and if that takes another two weeks another three weeks

and then they're one in eight then I mean what kind of what what is the point you know I'm saying you kind of want him to get back and if they get mathematically damn near eliminated then you don't want to risk Lamar Jackson's long term future for him to just come back in for what yeah I'm I'm I'm with you there. Like, you don't want to have him come back. You are dead last right now and have him going there on a, you know, 80% hamstring. And he'd go to hit another gear and forbid, you know, God forbid he tear the thing off the bone or something. Like, that's, you know, that's something that's going to lead into the next year.

The part is not rushing. Don't rush. Let him get all the rest. Let him recover that thing 100% for sure. Yeah. If they don't let him do that, it's going to, it's not going to be, I don't think it'll be pretty because he, he's too, he's too elusive, powerful. He's going to, he's not going to think about it.

He's going to go to dig, to take off to get past somebody, and, you know, that's going to be it. You can't go out there and play, you know, 80% the way he, you know, the way he plays the game. Yep. You got to be full tilt. No question. So during the coach pre-game warm-up, this was crazy. The cornerback war, he collided with the tight-in ogletree and suffered a concussion.

This boy went into pre-game concussion protocol out for the actual game. And then Anthony Richardson, he fractured his orbital bone with the embankion. A band, dude. Like, how do you do that? Brother, you, Debo, you know how tight them bands are. He probably was doing like a little mean hamstring swing up thing and it's by the slipped off his foot. He didn't play it out?

He didn't play? He didn't play. He couldn't play. No, he couldn't play. Hey, listen, I got a story for you, though. I did that same thing, bro. I blew my orbital in, uh, in Houston, and my helmet came and shot down into my eye.

And at the time, bro, I ain't lie. God. So I'm like, you know how you blink your eyes to try and get, you know, trying to get them back straight. So I'm sitting there in my eye, what I didn't know at the time is I blew my audible. So my eye was no longer sitting on that potato chip bone. Yeah.

So it dropped down. So as I'm looking at the stadium at here, Houston, I'm seeing four decks. I'm seeing, you know how they got the scoreboard across the middle? I'm seeing two of those and then two of those up there. But if I close my right eye, they came to one. So I'm like, they like, you got a concussion.

I'm like, I ain't got no concussion, dude. I'm like, I'm just seeing like two of everything, dude. Like, I'm like, I'm seeing two of everything. God, what you mean? I'm like, I'm telling you, I'm seeing two of everything. like if I close this eye I could do it so I go back in they take me into the um they take me into the locker room and uh hear the crowd something's happening whatever and um by that time it done got to where it's not separated like this yeah they're close like this and I'm like all right I'm going

back out so I go back out and I'm I'm on the side and I you know I asked my I ask my words I'm like yo y'all good y'all need me to come I'm like if y'all need me, I could come back, bro. I'll come back. And he's like, man, hey, we go be all right, bro. Like, I'm like, I can come back if you need me. What was your eye? What was you looking like, Deep?

No, it just, it don't even look like nothing, bro. Okay. It don't even look like nothing because it's inside your eye. So they actually go in your eye to do the surgery, into your eye socket, rather, to do the surgery. So I'm like, yo, I could come back. if y'all need me to but if y'all go be all right i ain't going to come back like help go well we ain't go be all right i'm like all right then i'm coming back so what i did is i've finished

that game with a fracture orval so when i would go to hit somebody i would just close my right eye so it'd be one person and then i'd open it back up so i see crazy so i finished that game I ended up getting the surgery later early that next week. And that's when I started wearing a dark, dark visor because I got a scratch on my retina or something. And it was giving me light sensitivity. So I started wearing the dark visor. But dude, I finished that game. And I ended up missing, I believe, the next two weeks after I got it, I got it done.

But I played a whole, I actually got the bone, bro. I had the bone, the little potato. shit bone? I got it upstairs in my refrigerator. I tell them, listen, anything you take out of me, I'm going to need to take with me because I got to put that back. Dude, I got pieces of bone from, like, my back when they did my microdosecate the second time. I had two of them in nine days. Tebow, you're wild. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, bro. And he got deepo got bones in the refrigerator. bro listen it's going it was born with it it's going back with me back in no question

is your eye good now though or you oh yeah it's good now it's good now baby that was in 2009 that was like two games 11 or something like that it was 2011 that was like two games but that's what i'm saying so how are you going to put that one back in hey here this i'm just going to put it in my casket oh That's it. Okay. So here, hey, here's the crazy thing. So this is, this is going to sound crazy.

So when I first started coming back, so they keep you in the hospital for a day and they got to seal your eyes shut. So they come in the next day, they cut the scissor, to cut the two sutures that seals your eye. And then you're able to open it, right? The first, oh, man, it had to be like two months, maybe a little more. when I would blow my nose, air would come out my eye. Ah, Debo. I swear, bro.

Oh, God. I swear. Bro, it was crazy. Yeah, man, that's crazy. I'm, I'm queasy. I'm sliding with anything like that. I'm like, my man, Debo, I, you're talking about blowing your nose. You got air coming out of here.

That's crazy. I don't know if it's normal or not, but, hey, Anthony, if that happens, it's normal. It's happened to me. So just letting you know the first few months you get back, you go to blow your nose. I blow my nose real hard, though. Like, I don't do the quiet.

Yeah, no, you got to get it out. I got to get that up out of there. So, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, bro, it would blow air on my eye. And you know how, like, in the morning you wake up, you got some sleep in your eye and you got to blow your nose? I would blow my nose, dude. And it would blow your sleep.

Oh, wow. Devo, that's crazy. Let's go. Bruh. That's a sweet. I'm glad you good now. Shit. Oh, yeah.

It took like two weeks for you to, uh, after surgery? It took two weeks before I was back. Okay. They wouldn't let me, I guess it was something about force of something and they didn't, they didn't want me. I was trying to go back. I was trying to go back that week. I'm like, yo, it's fixed.

I can see now. Everything's one. They're like, no, you got to let it hear. for a little bit. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, you wildly, bow. Yeah, man. So the Chargers beat the Dolphins.

And your boy, Tua, he had a little something to say after the game. Yeah. Man, just, this was his response, man. Let's show it. I think it starts with the leadership in helping articulate that for the guys and then what we're expecting out of the guys right we're expecting this are we

getting that are we not getting that we have guys showing up to only player only meetings late guys not showing up to player only meeting like there there's a lot that goes into that do we have to make this mandatory do we not have to make this mandatory so so it's it's a lot of uh it's a lot of things of that nature um that we got to get cleaned up and it starts with the little things like that Be clear. You're saying some players were late or missed. Late, yeah. Hey, man.

Look here. Hey, he shouldn't be answering any questions about that, but other than it just being about the game. I understand he might be a little upset because the defense couldn't hold him for 46 seconds to make sure they didn't get a field goal. I can see that. I can understand that.

But your job, if we want to go into it technically, like all the way through, is to score a touchdown every possession. Just as when I was with the Steelers, my first, you know, my first stint of starting dude, our job is to stop them on every job. If we go out there as a defense and we do our job 100% and we never let them score, then we could point a friend. finger. If you don't go out there and do your job 100%, you can't point no fingers mad about some other stuff. You as an offense, to do your job 100%, you got to go out there and score every play. I know it's unrealistic, but that stops any and everyone from pointing fingers. That's why we as a defense was like, yo, we was number five. We're like, yo, we're trashed. We're horrible right now. because if they don't score, we can't lose.

And on top of that, we can actually help us win because we can get turnovers and score touchdowns. We can actually score. What you should have been talking about to him was the second play of the game, you threw a pick. You gave them a short field. They scored a field goal on that. And then you come in the next possession and you go three and out.

And then the defense goes and gets you. the football short field you score seven the first possession of the third quarter you throw another pick again another short field another short field and they score a touchdown you're responsible for 10 points you're lost by two take accountability what are you even talking about that for right now and to be honest we knew this was over with week one y'all having a players only meeting the head coach needs to be gone because now the head coach should have been going in but now you're telling me that the players in the locker room don't even have a player they respect enough to even go to what y'all decided to do as a player destroy the whole team

the head coach and start over what are you debo i think you making perfect sense i say this for one thing like you said tour you have to be performing at such a high you're the quarterback of the team you come out there and throw three fucking picks and you're talking about people not coming to a players only meeting nobody's respecting you as a leader for one thing you're coming out there and it's a players only meeting this is getting out to the media because of you you're making things about people not come to a players only meeting and now if it's a player's only meeting that they're not attending it's because they don't respect you or they respect who's ever throwing the meeting these dudes are

grown-ass men. If you didn't get this meeting time that we needed to do while we're in this facility from fucking 8 to 4, think I'm out of here because all this shit you're talking about

is not how to play. He's a crazy thing. He said it was online. They ain't even doing this. They're not even zoom into your shit. Hey, it's over with whoever the owner, who's the owner of the Miami Dolphins?

Listen, get rid of your head coach. I don't even know what he'd be talking about half the time when he's having an interview. I don't know what he doing. That boy on uppers and downers.

I don't know what's going on. The team, the players, that's supposed to be your captain, they don't even respect them. Take them seeds off their chest because that's the people that making these meetings and ain't nobody showing up. The respect is lost and gone there. Like, you got to start all the way over, man. Yeah.

I mean, for Tua to be calling people out like that, it's kind of crazy because obviously, You're letting the media, they don't need to be knowing about these people not showing up to your plans on the meetings. You need to be going to go talking to these dudes directly and getting respect from a man that's on your team not showing up to your meeting. You think telling the media that he's not showing up to your media is going to make him want to come or like you're trying to embarrass somebody from your team. No, these dudes aren't invested. No, you're grown-ass man. It's another man.

You're talking about having a place. Right. So now what's happening. Hey, who ain't go to the meeting? Who ain't go to the meeting? Did you go to the meeting? Did you go to the meeting? Now the reporter's at and did you go to the meeting?

Did you go to the meeting? Did you go to the meeting? Oh, it's, it's, they, players only meetings is the first thing. And then people are not showing up to your plan's only meeting. There's only meeting. You just lost one and a half engines. Okay?

You're going down. You only got two and you lost half of the one you had. You're going down. I, I, I, showing up. Man, you lost both engines and one of the wings just fell off that Sunday. It's over. It's over with it.

And then like you said, too, they coach, he was a quarterback, he was the wide receiver coach for the Browns when I was there probably. Was he like that when you was there? Was he? Just, just like that. The same exact.

He hasn't changed one bit. And that's not in the bad way. He's a smart mind. But leader of other men, you know what I'm saying? Ask him a question that he'd give you something that you like this. Okay, that makes sense.

Like he's a little, you know, just. Flowing. Like you said, you say, flowing? You say, you say I was a down. You called those interviews.

I say flowing. Dude, I could have did better than that. And I'm horrible at public speaking. Like, I'm trash. No, no,

no, for sure. I don't even. So, yeah. Huh? You ain't said nothing. All you said was, yeah.

So he said, we, And, uh, yeah, and, you know, he understands. Well, uh, huh? You said a whole lot of nothing. When I went on, when I fire, yeah, uh, fire, uh, yeah, uh, yeah, uh, yeah, they got to do shut up. He can say, uh, yep, yep, uh, you're, uh, you're, uh, you're, uh, you're, uh, you're, uh, you're,

going on over there, man. Yeah, they got to do better, man. That's, it's not looking good. You can't, you, listen, man. Yeah. And like you said, you're putting it out there now. And you're putting it out there to hope to shame the dudes into coming. Like, that's even worse.

That's how much they don't respect you. You're trying to literally, I said, you're going to the media about them not coming to your place. Right. That ain't how you leave. Now they're looking at you like, damn, fed. You a snitch. Whole time. now with it like this they kind of already knew you was the police now they for show

he for show he the feds bro you're the feds you're the feds you're going to do 80% 85% of your time for show what did you see look dad said something about you see your dad's tweeted about it what do you say they say I want to know what part of this is going to take accountability for two or through three picks today two is the third in the NFL with the most interceptions thrown by a quarterback if you haven't said this privately first then then in the media i don't respect it and since we are on the topic of respect i guarantee a lot of the players don't respect tool tool points the finger and literally has four pointing back at them if you want to win put iwers in who is ewers man should must be the backup quarterback

That's crazy. I ain't even heard him. And he wasn't, he ready to put him in. But that's exactly what we were saying, though. You mean, that ain't, that ain't,

that ain't, that ain't, that ain't, that ain't, that's, it is what it is. Like, we're saying the same thing,

well, we've been in the locker rooms before. We know when people are in their thing. And like, at the end of the day, like, there was, there was player-only meetings

that we did once a week for, for, for, like, the D.Bs would do. Everybody, all the DBs are in there and we were hosted ourselves, and we have food.

You know what I'm saying? Like somebody had to get food from a good-ass spot and we were watching. Right, but you're not having a meeting to try and figure out why the hell is going. You're having an extra meeting

to plan and get ready for the opponent that you're playing against to go over and extra stuff to eat and, you know, and hang out together to build that. But what I'm saying is, do at the same time with that,

though, Debo, at the end of the day, people don't got to go to those. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, that is extra, that is after, but there's a respect. that when I came there, that was there, it's mandatory. Like, it's not, but it's mandatory because what if I guess you're going to do?

Like, we're going to come, we're going to have this meeting. All the boys are going to link up. And we look forward to it because I, I bet. Like, I'm with my boys back the end of the day. Like, they don't have to be that way. But knowing, like, people respect their leadership. Doos, everybody understands like, if Joe in there, I'm in there. You know what I'm saying?

If I'm in, I'm in, like, why the fuck, but I'll be in there. You know what I'm saying? So it's like a, it's a unspoken because you could tell the dudes of respect to people. If you say something, then they're going to just come because you're not just saying stuff out your ass, something, you're not wanting to even, it's just because, it is what it is. Boom, we're just going to come.

You know what I'm saying? I don't know we got to make it mandatory or what? What? That's just like, I'm not making a man, but if we say it's like, it's a respecting, if things, you're just not talking all the time. So when you somebody were to say something,

then that means he, okay, boom, he means he's not just speaking, talking to it all the time. Troy Palo Malu never went out, never parted, never did anything. but come rookie dinner Troy is going out why?

Because that's what it is it's a event that happens every year he's not like he drank or anything but he was there he was there he was there mm-hmm

volumes bro that's volumes for sure yes you ain't yeah but mandatory on something stop stop playing man listen Denver went on ahead

and beat the Jets it was 13 to 11, but, like, it really wasn't, like, that close. It was close, but it wasn't that close. Dude, Denver's defense, dude, they just dominate these boys, man. They didn't allow these boys to run the ball. They ain't allowed him to pass the ball. They shut down everything, man.

Runner back only, no, he had 22 carries, bro, and only 59 yards. Like, Fields, this boy sat nine times. You know what happened was, he said, listen, for every completion I get, I'm going to let y'all get a sack. So he had nine completions and they got nine sacks on that had that that that's the only that's the only thing I could say I'm no man I'm just telling you that's the only reason that's the only way I could see that you know it was you know that's how they they mended it out they only converted I think what two maybe third downs to that was it a total of 82 yards period dude how are you negative 10 passing yards brough huh? it that they was they was they was they was they was they was hitting there was dude they was hit in just the field dude so much though not i ain't even talking about the you know just the sacks they hit him 15 times too like i what in the world is popping over there this was what i'm

i woke up at nine like the denver's offense really they ain't do nothing bro all they had to do was sit out there, man, and just don't turn the ball over, and that's it. Brother, what I'm trying to say is I watched that game from beginning to end because it was the London game. It was 9.30 in the morning, and I was geeked. I'm like, okay, bet. We got good football. I'm going to watch this entire game and see what's going on with the Jazz.

Because Aaron Glenn was my DB coach. I love, I like Aaron Glenn, a whole lot. Great coach. Okay, so you're about to say something because you said you like him a whole lot. That's pre-facing with negative you about to come with. Go ahead. no it was the worst offensive display i've ever seen like their defense was playing amazing turning the ball over putting them in great field position pump returns putting them

in great field position my man fields only had like he has short fields the whole first half to just try to get something going they couldn't move the ball at all negative 10 passing yards the running game it looked like it almost looked like they weren't trying and His, Justin feels simple speedouts, like routes on air. When your receiver, Gary was running the speed out. And he's throwing it in the dirt behind him, making them fall back. It just looks like the simple passes he could not make. You know what I'm saying?

So I was looking at it because I'm like, okay, Denver isn't doing anything also. Like, Bo Nix, loving to death, but their defense was playing great. They made them punt the ball eight times. He had eight punts. So, like, they kept giving them opportunities, turnovers on short fields, great punt returns. And it's like, Justin Fields, you're not doing anything. Like, you're harming your team. Somebody, just throw the ball up.

Get him a chance. I mean, he can do better. He could definitely do better. But also, you got to realize, I believe the offensive coordinator, I think this is his first time being an office of coordinator. So maybe he's not able to fit his offense or play call to what it is that the strength of Justin is. Also, you know. Justin been in a lot of teams, though, bro.

True statement. The one thing that I didn't like when we picked Justin is. messing up. I'm like, we picked him up. Okay, cool. You ain't really have to do nothing to get him or give up anything to get him. But the thing that caused me to have to worry was when he was saying about his offensive coordinator in Chicago, he was like, it was along the lines that they got me thinking too much. They just need to let me go out there and play. And that to me said, I can't understand this game. I can't learn it. I can't read it. I can't get the ball where it needs to go in time. That's what it said to me. So that's him not being able to perform the level he needs to and understand the game that he needs to understand. So I'm seeing it at a 50 on him, maybe 60 on him, and the coordinator is not giving plays and designing things that's going to be beneficial for his talents.

I think Justin Fields' talents are very, I think Justin Till's talents are his, athleticism and his mobility. But being able to, if you can't read defenses fast and you think that, like sometimes offenses, I'm not trying to say, but if you're saying like, he's giving you too much, that's what quarterbacks do. Quarterbacks have to know what everybody's doing

and what the defenses are doing and the checks. And it's a lot of information. You got to know the line. That's why that's the hardest. You may have to call the line. That's why that's the hardest position in the league by far. Because just the amount of information that you have to process and then a fast level.

So when dudes are moving, trying to like bluff you and you don't know what the coverage is and then they start, they can trick you, that means that you're not that good of a quarterback. You know what I'm saying? Because you have to be able to execute and be able to get things on the fly and be able to know what everybody's doing, your whole offense in the position. You know what I'm saying? So if you're like, oh, no, it's too much for me to, I'm sorry. That's not my bad. You're a professional quarterback. These dudes are making $60 million a year so they can process information so they can do these things and be able to get.

all these other guys in the right spots. So I understand completely. But when I'm looking at, I'm like, yo, if you don't know how to read the defense and then, like, throwing bad passes for quick outs that are like rouse on air, I'm sorry. We need to find another guy. Like, a lot of the stuff, like it could be

offensive coordinator too, but some of the stuff just looking at it. I'm like, boy, you're not helping. You're hurting the squad. Oh, no question, dude. And then you got, you know, you got Garrett Wilson. He had an exchange with Aaron Glenn going into halftime.

Like, what, like, what do you think he said? I'm, look, because you saw, like, they just, they didn't even look like they were trying to get a field goal. They were then at the 50-yard line with 30 seconds left, and they just let the clock run out. Like, they didn't even try to get another 10 yards, run up, spike it, get a field goal. He's like, oh, no, like, Aaron, like, they didn't even believe. They thought, oh, no, he might throw a pick. He might take a sack. Something bad is going to happen.

Let's just get in the halftime. instead of let's go get, let's go get some points on the board. Let's try to get some momentum going in the halftime. You go in the halftime looking like this. Oh, let's just not fuck this up. And Gary Wilson is standing there like, throw me the ball. Like, I'm trying to get us activated. Let's get, let's get going.

And he's walking off and sees that the coaches aren't going to call a play. I'm pissed. I'm like, what are we really doing? Are we not trying to score? Are we not trying to win? And you do that? You're showing me that you happy with the process, with the progress that you have right now at this point in the game.

And they may have been too scared to actually go because when you're getting pressure like that sack left and right, you know, you only one player away from that sack fumble to the house. Yeah, but he came on. It's coming off of a completion, a rare completion. He had one. He only had nine of them, baby. Bro, he only had nine.

They're coming off a rare completion. Everybody looking at 30 seconds, calm down, and then they're just looking at each other like, okay, let's just wait for this thing. Let's just go in here. Slow down, slow down. We got a completion. You think two in a row.

Don't the fuck down now. And then they still only lost by two points, dude. Like, that tell you how much of nothing Denver's offense was doing, dude. I'm putting it to Denver's offense wasn't doing nothing, but damn it, the defense of the Jets was balling. They were creating turnovers and, like, getting off the field on third downs. They was doing, they part. So, like, that's why I look at the offense, like, you can't, you had 30,

It was like 33 y'all's in the first half and 30, 40-something in the second half. I'm like, yo, that's crazy. Like, all over. The whole game, that's crazy. That's bad ball. So the Chiefs beat the Lions 30 to 17, but that wasn't a big to go to. It was after the game when Branch refused to shake my home's hand. And then went up to Juju and basically shoved him, punched him in his face in his helmet.

and then the braw started. Dan Campbell, he did not like it. He called out his player. And, you know, what is your take on this? You are about players, you know, doing extracurriculars after the game. Man, I'm not about it at all. I don't, I'm not here for it. You got three hours in that game to literally, in between the whistles,

do what you got to do. It's a physical, brutal sport where you can really go get your revenge in a good way and not like trying to hurt nobody, but yeah, you can get physical. You can come and smack somebody, bum, yeah. And like, you can really get your get back in between the whistles and in the football game. So I'm thinking after the game, once it's all over, it is what it is. It's a competitive juices get up. People get feeling some type of ways.

But at the end of the day, we're all in the NFL. We're all trying to provide for our families do the right thing. And, like, just hopefully nobody, you know what I'm trying to go out into, like, injure anybody. So my whole thing is, motions get high. But once the game is over, the game is over. I'm trying to get back to the crib, back to the family, and get out of there. But I just don't understand how, I mean, you could walk up on you. I saw it, like, no handshake and then just pop, my man.

That's not okay. You know what I'm saying? It was he, Loki had his hand out. Yeah. You can't do that. You can't do that. It's not really any. Is it anything that somebody can say to you that would cause you to do that?

Honestly, bro, unless nobody, if you don't put your hands on me, then it is what it is. You know what I'm saying? Like, I always, like, words, you can talk, people get emotions, but, like, once you get physical, once you put your hands on me, then that's a whole different game. You know what I'm saying? So, like, people, altercations, people talk, whatever, but after the game, I'm out of there. Like, you can be grown enough to be mature enough to walk away. There's not too many things that nobody can say to me.

They had me up in a roar like that. But I feel like once you touch me, then it's, then it's fucking, then it's all hell break loose. It doesn't matter. Like, you did that. Now you overstepped for sure. Words can be spoke, whatever, whatever.

And we go off separate ways. It is what it is. But once you start putting your hands on, once you start touching me, keep your hands to yourself. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how I feel about that. Yeah, it really ain't nothing you can say to me

that's go cause me to do that because I'm already thinking about money. And then today, days there, how dudes post social media, this and that. If you really want to do this and we got a problem, you want to say, you can meet me. And we can meet in the off season. We can meet. We can probably training in the same state.

Like, if it's really that real, we can meet in the off season. This ain't know. And you can do it behind closed doors. You know how that is, Ebo. If a dude really want smoke, you can know how to find each other. It's very easy. It can do it quietly. Yeah.

Matter of fact, you're going to walk into him. Hey, Juju, you know what I'm saying? You're going to have to see about me, whatever, whatever. and they can literally link and if you really wanted to do it but that is just like motion pop off you know it's about to be

a whole shebang money's gonna be a fine everybody's gonna be talking about this instead of what really happened in the game you know what I'm saying so if you really wanted it then we could make it happen

but like I just don't feel that's just like that come on man and I'm not knocking the branch character anything but that's just not a good look just walked up to my man and it is what it is

yeah yeah good Lord Listen, tonight, Chicago and at Washington, okay, that's tonight's game. All right, we want to thank y'all for joining us. Time went fast that time, man. We want to thank y'all for joining us on this episode of DeBoh and Joe, man. Hit the like and subscribe button. We will be back here on Tuesday.

Joe stuff, huh? Hayden, what you got to say? We will be here on Tuesday to talk about the Bears games, see what they're talking about. about Bears versus Washington, Commanders, it's actually up the street. I'm thinking my mic go up there and see what J.D. talking about. Go ahead.

Jump in there. And you know what? And we out.