Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - REACTION to Steelers disappointing loss to Seahawks + SNF: Falcons vs. Vikings

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Sunday Night Football which saw Michael Penix Jr. and the Atlanta Falcons defeating JJ McCarthy and the Minnesota Vikings. Later, they react to Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers sloppy loss to the Seattle Seahawks, and much more from Week 2 of the NFL season!Timecodes: 00:00 - Introduction03:30 - Eagles vs Chiefs8:30 - Steelers Lose to Seahawks17:40 - Cowboys vs Giants25:50 - Ravens beat Browns33:10 - Bengals vs Jags40:30 - Trouble in Miami46:30 - Lions beat Bears54:00 - Colts beat Broncos58:15 - Vikings x Falcons (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #Nightcap See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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on IHart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to the Debo and Joe show. I am your host, James Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss. nothing that we got going on.

So, Joe, I went on ahead and wore my collar shirt today. Okay. Make sure I keep myself professional, and I don't go to saying things that's unprofessional, you know. So, yeah, that's why I had to put on that. That's why you put a collar shirt. Okay. You keeping it classy today?

Got to, got to, 100, 100%. You know, after, you know, Sunday, I'm not feeling myself, you know what I mean? So. Okay. But we'll get into that. Let's see what went down with this Eagles, Super Bowl rematch with the Chiefs, man. Okay. So the Chiefs obviously lost.

We know that they're now 0 and 2 for the first time since 2014, dude. Patrick Mahomes starts 0 and 2 for the first time since his sophomore year in high school, bro. Because that's wild. Yes, tell me about it. Jalen Hurts is now 3 and 2 against Pat, including the playoffs, 2 and 1 in the regular season, brother. What do you have to say about this, brother? I think, so long story short, this is not good for the, for the Chiefs. I didn't think they started off too well this season, obviously going on too.

But this is my thing. This is my take on the game. Let's just get into what I think went down. I think the Chiefs need to start getting a run game. They're depending too much on patching my homes to be patching my homes. And I know that's going to be the situation where he's going to do. great things. He's going to be able to use his legs.

He's going to be able to extend plays. But there's no running game. We need to see more Pacheco. We need to see more Kareem Hunt, more just being able to get some play action, being able to just take some pressure off of him. So that was one of my main things there. And then at the same time, him and Travis Kelsey,

Travis was bawling. When you're playing against, when it's good on good, when you're playing against a team like the Eagles, those little things like that drop in the end zone, that's not a drop that turned it to a pick so that turned it to i mean that drop was turned into a turnover you know what i'm saying was on which was turning the points and when you give the eagles team which does have a run game then being able to give the ball to say clon barkley jela hertz didn't have the numbers didn't do extremely too well but when it was third and 10 when

it was time that ball to devonte smith on the side for him to catch that ball on third and 10 and then for them to be able to get the touch push you know what i'm saying to score that touchdown and then with not giving the ball back to Patrick Mahomes. That's the thing that I left about them instead of the thing that the Ravens would do would kick it back to him, give him a chance. No, let's finish this here. Our team's better than yours.

We're going to get this first down and we're going to walk out of the stadium. He's not worried about yards. He's not worried about how many, all this? No, I left this game and we won and y'all lost and we're going to get to the next stadium. So that's why I rocked with the Eagles big time, not getting the ball back to the Chiefs.

But then with the Chiefs, when you're playing good on good, you're going to you can't make turnovers like that but at the same time you need some run game Patrick Mahomes needs some help there where you do have Pacheco you do have Kareen Hunt get them involved

where they're like totaling it so they have to worry about them so I think it was a really good game I think to still got stuff to work on you know what I'm saying as far as like run game wise Patrick Mahomes is still nice but the Eagles I think it's more Eagles good getting out of that stadium playing winning football

and I think that's what it is when I see the Eagles play. That's just a great football team. Yeah, I think, you know, the offense is built to run the football. You went and got Sequin for a reason and he's doing exactly what it is that, you know, y'all want him to do. They're winning with the time of possession, you know, they're giving their defense time to rest, which is, you know, letting them, when they run the ball, you know, he's not getting stopped for negative yards very often. So they're staying ahead of the chains. A thousand percent. Defense gets to rest. They come out there. And when they come down to it, you know, just the last, you know, a couple of games, like the defense plays better than the

defense that they play against. And they do enough so that they can be in those situations to win those games come that fourth quarter. They say complimentary football, bro. Yes, very, oh, yes, dude, it's very, very, very complimentary football. You know, when you look at it, I think it was Chris, was it Chris Jones? Yeah, Chris Jones had said to Hertz at the end of the game, he said, you didn't even get 100 yards. And Hertz said, that we won the fucking game, shut your ass up, you know, that's really what it came down to. He did what was necessary for his team to win. He may not have put up the numbers that, you know, he had put up in the Super Bowl,

but he did what was necessary for his team to win. And I think that's all you can ask for is for the offense and defense to complement each other and special teams add into it. And that's, you know, that's really what they have going on right now. you know over in Philly and you you really can't knock it too much man but you love to see it at the end of the day you know what I'm saying people love to see points you want to see your quarterback throwing outside here I like seeing a hard fought defensive game where I don't want to see 500 yards on the field I don't I don't want to see that's not exciting to me dude I don't

understand that I mean somebody's playing bad somebody's playing bad it's bad it's bad football being played if there's 500 yards you know what I'm saying passing you know what I'm saying somebody's Yes, yes, no question. Who's in the wrong spot? Yeah, so when we're going to get to while, I had to go on here, put my college shirt on, you know, I had to get professional because we got to talk about my stillers, you know, so.

Yeah, I don't see all their towels off there. Yeah, yeah, we lost. My question was, look, this was what I wanted to talk to you about, James. I wanted to see how high you were with the Steelers win, and if you get real cranky and start wearing college shirts when they lose, I guess you start wearing college shirts when they lose and double-towed-up, would they win? Hey, I'm going to tell you, it ain't nothing like when you lose and you're actually playing.

It ain't nothing like that. You're right. You know, as soon as I left the game, as soon as I left the game, brother, I wasn't bad. You know, I was pretty good. You were present. You were in the building. Yes. Yes.

I was in the building, brother. So it's not the same, not the same concept as when you're, you know, you're actually playing the game. Okay. No, for sure. So for the first time since 2002, the Steelers have allowed more than 30 points in the first two games. The Steelers' defense gave up 14 plays of 10 yards or more. The defense with six former first rounders allowed back-to-back, 100-yard rushers. Goodness, man.

Stillers don't give up rushing. That's just something as a base. That's one of the things that's supposed to be the standard. don't give up a hundred-yard rusher. And, dude, I don't, I really can't understand what's going on with the defense. I'm nervous. I'm, uh, I'm scared. I'm, yeah, I'm, I'm actually a little past that, dude.

Like, the defense is bad, dude. Like, you gave up 32 points to the jets. Right. Four, almost 400 yards, dude. What was it? 182 rushing and the bills just dog walk the Jets

dude only gave up 154 yards total like we're in trouble man what do you think we can't stop the run we can't get consistent pressure on the quarterback

you got dude what is it what's his name damn darnal hit us for almost 300. No, like he hit us for, you're 2905. Walker hit us for a hundred and five rushing, dude.

He was in. He averaged almost, well, he was over. He was over eight yards of rush, dude. Our offensive line is bad, dude. We can't get a running game going. Jalen Warren is having to break a tackle in the backfield, 25% of the time, dude. If not more, before he gets out the backfield.

Jalen Warren was the only bright spot. I would say, out there. Dude, we can't, we can't pass protect. He was our leading catcher out there. He was our leading pass catcher. We can't have our leading catch. Right.

And then the receiver started dropping passes, dude. Like, I don't, it was, it didn't look, I was a little to strike. Anyway, and then you got the, you got the turnover, like, right there in the end zone. That didn't help us at all. And then on top of that, like, when it came down to it, we lost the turnover, takeover, ratio because the special teams just Johnson just had a brain for I don't know what happened there I am dude I'm up and I'm bumping the top you know I'm in I'm in a I'm in a sweet over there and soon as he touched the ball dude the first thing I did and he didn't turn and go to it

I'm yelling like he can hear me get the ball turn oh I'm screaming and yelling like he You hear me. I'm like, yo, I'm like, I'm invested in this a little too deep right now. Yeah. I'm yelling from like, you know, like the 400 right there, you know, where you underneath the- I know exactly what you're talking. Yes, I'm yelling from the 400 like he can hear me. You know what I'm saying? Like, though, we are, we are in trouble, dude.

That did, it just wasn't like, that's what I'm saying, O'Dibo. It just that, those things, like Danny Smith, we talked about Danny Smith. Special teams is he teaches that. That's what you got. Like, that's something I don't think that Danny's. Danny Smith does not not teach that stuff. He doesn't teach, because I used to be the returner in that meeting room, he would teach us about to keep me your foot out of bounds when you,

when you're trying to get it to get it. Yeah, grab the ball, put one foot in, one foot out. All of that stuff. So just the little nuances that you wouldn't really know, he would definitely teach us all of that stuff. So just going into the game, that's a brain fart, but that's something that's going to put you behind the A ball. That's not, that's seven points.

You know what I'm saying? And playing the games like this, when the offense isn't going like that, we're not getting the. That put us down by 10 right then and there. Brother. And then at the same time, too. Like, how do you not even attend, like the whole stadium is yelling, get the ball. That, that, for sure, for sure.

I mean, he, he, he, he wilded out right there. That's not, that's, there's no excuses for that, bro. With professionals, you're the kickoff return of the starting. You start them, you're back there. You know what I'm saying? You know, everything about getting the ball. There's no excuse. Zero.

I say this, too, though, like, even with. the run, the run defense is looking kind of crazy. I think it's got, it got to be gaps. It got to be, you know what I'm saying? Because he's sometimes getting to the second level without getting touched. You know what I'm saying? So that's just, I don't, listen, I don't know, I know we're bad. Like, we need, we need to, we need to get better.

But then I'm trying to look at it and I'm like, is this a skiing thing? Like, are we just got to a point to where we're trying to cover everything and we're covering nothing now? Like, what is going on? I would say some of the things, though, I would see simple mental errors. You know Coach T, how he thrives on. Fad, don't get beat to the flat.

Don't get beat to the flat. We were seeing when he's doing boots, just people running butt naked open to the flat. You know what I'm saying? For like, catching runs for 30, 40 yards. I'm like, that's just discipline. You know what I'm saying? That's somebody's assignment that where's your man?

Like, that needs to be your man. When they're running, we're running deep overs. And I'm seeing jailing them dudes coming across or the dig routes. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's gaps. And some of these are zone coverages, you know what I'm saying? Some of these are mad, but we've got to be able to understand who has who. There's a reason we're not covering everything, but they're going to be able to do catching tackles.

But people run sky free through your secondary makes no sense. You know what I'm saying? Someone should be around there. Yeah, I think the big thing with the zone is, yeah, that's your zone. But when you get a guy that sits down in your zone, you want to kind of try and relate to him, you know what I'm saying? No, no, no, no. A thousand percent. If somebody's not even relating, like, he's just going there, scooting down, sitting there,

And we're making like we didn't even see or feel this dude. Like, you got to, you got to have some sort of wear it. We're saying, we're saying the same thing. Once someone gets into your zone, then we're matching. We're matching. We're matching. Because you know these fire zones, it's zone. Then, man, once he gets, once he's in your zone, that you got to take it.

Your zone, you go, you go until he get out of your zone and get back. Like, you pass him basically to the next zone. Like, we're just sitting there like, oh, my zone is right here in front of this hash. And, yeah, I see him sitting in between the hash. or I don't feel him, whatever that may be, and I'm not going to try and at least scoot that way to try and, you know, try and relate to him. I don't, I don't know what's going on.

Like I said, we're bad right now on both sides of the line on defense and offense, and when you don't have success there, you cannot have success on the football field. And that's where we're at. You got to control the line of scrimmage. I don't. To, they average, the Steelers only average five yards of play. Like, how do you average only five yards of playing and you're passing the rock?

Like, I don't, I think you know what it was. I got too excited. Every time. You got real hype. It was a lot of wee, we, we, we, we. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, distillers, I'm been doing a lot of distillers right now. You know what I'm saying?

Like out of separate it. Now you backvested. Yeah, like, you know, the most successful runs that they, or passes that they have was the short stuff, you know, giving it to the running back. He just, you know, he's just darting up out of there. Yeah, it was Jalen Warren, man, getting y'all's after the cash, jumping over people, hurling folks,

giving everything he had. But at the same time, like, we need some more, D.K., we need some more to figure out of the way to get Calvin Austin. He speeded. Yeah, D.K. was dropping the ball. he don't normally do that, you know what I'm saying? So it was a, it's a combination. But the big thing is we got to get settled up front on both sides of the ball

so that you can do what it is football is made to do. Pass the ball, run the ball, stop the pass, stop to run. Yeah, because we can't do either one of those. It's going to be troubled, dude. It's going to be trouble, bro. We can't have Walker. He was running through the defense. When we're trying to get more possessions, we got to be able to stop them run.

and we can't keep having just big plays. The dude, what was it? Eight, eight yards a tote, eight, eight, one a tote? Eight one of a ton. It's crazy. He only had 13 carries, dude. That's what I'm saying. Like, it's guaranteed first downs, man.

Get a, get out of, get to the ball two times. Yeah. Anyway, man. Listen, I really, I'm going on, let's go on to, to the Cowboys, man. Yeah. Yeah. That game was crazy. shootout in the fourth quarter man

Dak Prescott in the fourth quarter versus the Giants. He was 15 or 20, 187 yards, one touchdown, one 16 pass ready. That's nothing new to me. I think that's the thing he doing in the fourth quarter. And most of the time it was because they was down and you're playing a little lighter

defense, but I don't you know, I don't know if that was the case here is the Giants. So it's kind of to be you know, it's expected a little bit, you know. But I will say this, would it mean the Giants and them having the defense that they have? I don't know if the Cowboys are better than what we thought they were.

Right now, you know, they won the game. That's good. But you let the Giants put 37 on you, brother. Five hundred and six yards. Four hundred and five. passing and no real pressure on rush you are missing micah parsons right now because you look at it a week ago Washington held them to only 231 yards they couldn't even piss a drop now you come in here and you throw up five you got a shootout with him so you got to play Washington I don't know if

that's going to fair well for you considering you both played the same opponent and it's two totally different outcomes. So I don't think they, I don't, I don't think they, I think I'll be acting the first week, you know. They ain't really, you're saying they ain't really proved too much right here. No, I think they actually put me back into the mindset of the cowboys that they have been in work. Actually, it's a little worse now because 5006 yards to the giants, 400 and 5.00 and 5.5.

cooking? I mean, to the, yeah, to the Giants, 405 cooking. Russell cooking. That's what I'm trying to, Russell, I thought they won that game. When he threw that bomb, he did two. They had more yards. They had more yards. They would, they look good. I don't know. So the good thing is,

just speak for Russell. They ended, he bought himself some time because even though they lost this game, Russell was cooking. Russell was bawling. Russell was, wasn't the reason why they lost this game. Their defense needed to play a little bit better and make some more stops. Like, they scored that touchdown with 25 seconds left. I'm like, oh, Russell just won this game, came back like the offense was playing amazing. Their defense blew it, letting them get down and make that field goal with 25 seconds left.

You need to play somehow to prevent defense, or they're just letting DAC. That's what we always talk about. Put a little bit more pressure. Don't give him 25 yards or just free. chill, standing about, cushioning, cushioning. Soon you turn around, walk right on them. Like, that's just pitching catch. You got to put on them.

And you're not playing to when you're playing not to lose. And that's how you lose the game. So that's just, that's my thing there. But Russell played really, really good. Russell played good enough to win. And that's just a good step for the Giants. But all that being said, I don't think they're that good of a team anyway. And for them and for the Cowboys to get out with a win, that's bravo.

Bravo. I think you're a better team. You should have got out there with a win. There's no reason they – I don't think they should be on the field with you guys like that. But it was – somehow y'all won that game. So I don't – I mean – it doesn't make me feel too much better about – You still had to kick a 64-yard field goal to even – Man, their kicker is amazing. To send a game in the overtime.

He's not tripping. He's not tripping. He's not tripping. As soon as he gets to the 50, they feel like they got a field goal. You know what I'm saying? The Cowboys kicker is unbelievable. Oh, no question. dude. He got two of the, I think he got two of the four longest kicks in NFL history. Oh, he's making 64 yards or longer. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. He's doing the thing. He already, he already, uh, Pro Bowl already. Oh, for sure. Just, just right there off that. Long as he on,

long as he don't do nothing crazy. Yeah. Him and bankroll. Him and bankroll bars. But then like, like, you know, on the other side, like the Giants, they, they really didn't help they sell you know the first drive you got to tackle james hudson who committed four penalties on the one drive he had a uh uh unnecessary roughness he had a false start another unnecessary roughness and another false start so they benched him so so it says hudson was benched the following drive and got into it on the sideline with the ball is that how you say that yeah coach d'a bow daybow yeah Coach Debo, last week, McKayette, McHale, neat neighbors, Nevers, how you said? Malik neighbors, number one, who know?

Big that bigger. Malik neighbors has issues with the same. With the same. Debo. Debo. Debo. Brian Dave. Hey.

That's Debo? That's Debo. Where to why it? Man, you just good. Coach Debo, Ryan Debo. Daveo. All right, so now this week, it's Hudson's acting up on the sideline and you had Malik last week.

You think he's got an issue over there? You think he can lead this team or they just ain't got no confidence in it? I think he could lead the team. Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year? I wouldn't say anything as a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously, the goal is a championship. There's no doubt in that, and that's the goal.

We want to win a championship. I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast, in case you missed it with Christina Williams. The WMBA playoffs are here, and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups and standout players to the behind-the-scenes moments you won't find anywhere else. It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace the new challenge that we have. For all the biggest stories in women's basketball plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars.

So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and we're hoping to, you know, make it run. So listen to, in case you missed it with Christina Williams and IHart Women's Sports Production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on IHartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I think it's two separate situations. I think neighbors was going at Coach Daveo, because he wanted the ball. He's trying to just get the offense going.

He just don't feel like, you know what I'm saying, he was getting involved enough. Hudson's whiling. Hudson, you committed four fouls on one drive, back to back, to back, to back. You're the problem. I don't know what Debo is doing that you're coming to all these fouls,

you know what I'm saying, has nothing to do with him. That's you being not being professional, not being ready, false starting, unnecessary roughness, getting into your feelings, like doing stuff after the play, causing penalty yards.

Yeah, you're getting, you're getting penalties before and after. You're tripping. Penalties during the play, going to play. Hold or whatever. That's going to happen. And then you're doing unnecessary roughness after play. You know what I'm saying? Like you're losing yourself.

So I think that there's two different separate things that Coach Debo's getting after with neighbors and him is just really he's trying to get better. He's trying to get the ball. Coach, what's up? Like I'm trying to figure something out. Great player. I want to get the ball. I want to do better.

Hudson, I think he's tripping on the sideline. I don't know what the situation was, but you are unnecessary roughest. You have two of those pals and you have two false start files. What do you do? No, that's what I want to know. Those are personal files, right? Do you get fine for those? I don't know.

I think it might depend on the unnecessary roughness. If you hit a quarterback, it's unnecessary roughness. You get fine for that. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Yeah, probably. Do you get fine for every hit you get on the quarterback that's unnecessary? Not necessarily. It depends if they thought it was a correct call or not.

So, okay, okay. Sometimes they make a call and they'll look at it later on and you won't get a, you know, you won't get a fine for it. Okay. It's all dependent on what they see. And they actually do do that. So it's not automatic, you know. Okay, so yeah, I don't know if he got fine for them or what,

what kind of unnecessary references that he had, but he was wild. I don't know why he was over there arguing. I see you got your Cleveland stuff on. You got, you got, you got, you got some good stuff to say about Cleveland because, I mean, the Ravens just beat these boys 41 to 17, you know. Kyle, Kyle Van Nuoy, he said all they had to do was go to go to dinner as a team, man, get it together, man. Make sure they don't have no more collapses like they did last, last week of the four quarter, man.

It worked. The Ravens now, what, 13 and 2? following losses since 2020, 2022. Yeah, it was 10-3 or halftime. Game was going good. I thought you was probably like pounding your chest. Like, we're about to do this, huh? The defense, man, they was playing really, really well.

They was playing really well, keeping the game close. Flacco was just doing, there was a lot of checkdowns at the beginning of the game. Almost then when it was getting tight, almost through the pick six, and he had to strip, sack, fumble. So, I mean, Flacco wasn't doing too well this game. And I think the defense was trying to keep us into the game as long as they could. We started doing just Eris. Delpit?

Shout out Delpit. He prevented two touchdowns. He balled out. He did his part. I mean, I had eyes on him just watching him to see how good he played. Very, very, very good to see him ball out. But I don't think our Alkins did too well. Like, there was just too many checkdowns.

We didn't take really any chances down. the field. And then when we did, we threw picks. And it just didn't look like our offense had too much going at all. The defense was trying to keep us in the game. But at the end of the day, once that second half came, it just was too much for us. Oh, no question. Like Miles Garrett said, I guess after the game, he said, I mean, this shit is embarrassing. We got to do better on defense. We got to do better as a team. I mean, I think that's cool. That, you know, he said that. You know, it's a, it's fought everywhere. And like you said, at the end of it, the second half, they gave up a lot of points, I guess.

So, you know, they got to do their part too. The bomb to D.Hop, man. Look, it's, it's like we said earlier, Debo. It's three phases. You got offense, you got defense, and you got special teams. They gave up a big old pump return or kick return. And at the same time, they gave up a pump block that basically was a touchdown. So our special teams wasn't playing well at all.

the defense was doing they were fighting at the first half trying to keep it reasonable but then like you got it you get these short fields you're trying to get short fields and then at the same day bomb the de hop dhoff had a great play lamar jackson scrambling using his feet and then they still have derrick henry running the ball so defense was fighting but you can only do if you just sit back and you were to just look at the numbers not not look at the game you would be like how did this game end up 41 to 17 yeah because they were putting just short fields like you said pump blah easy situations where, like, nobody's helping each other out. You know what I'm saying? So special teams wasn't helping out situations. Defense was fighting. The offense wasn't really putting defense in good spots. So it just was a whole overall. The team just got to do better, man.

It didn't look too good. Do you think it should be a quarterback change? Kevin Stefanski said after the game that he won't consider a change at quarterback in week in week three. I think he just trying to, I mean, I think he's trying to build itself some more time. I'm not going to lie. When Dylan came in there at the end, even if it's going to be Dylan, I like Shador, somebody with some spunk that's going to give us some spark. I love Flacco, but we know he's going to give us. He's going to check it down. He's going to try to be consistent. He's going to be a veteran that's going to try to steer the shit. We know what he's going to do for us.

When we had these younger guys in there, he's faster. He's more athletic. He's mobile. The past, when he's in there, he's throwing touchdown passes. He doesn't really throw too many interceptions. And he's young. He looks like he's ready. So if the Browns want to give some more, if you don't have some more chances to put a spark in your offense, the younger dudes are ready. They're sitting there. It looks like Flacko at the end of the day when he keeps doing these checkdowns with me. I'm like, the one reason why I do like him, because if you're going to, you can throw a decent, you can throw a good fly ball. You can throw a good fay. You can throw a good deep post, a good overball. If you're not going to throw them, then I put the other

dudes in there. You know what I'm saying? Anybody can kind of check the ball down. We need, we need more points. We need some more. And once you put one of the other guys in there, you add into a component of them being able to run and now you can't just you know turn your back and lock up everybody or just go ahead and do whatever it is you want to do it while you're rushing you know come inside outside however it is that you want to rush you you got to take into account now like oh hold up this quarterback can run he could he could get out the pocket on me so now you got to rushing your lanes correctly instead of taking those liberties that you you're going to take with flaco you're not worried about him you know getting out of the pocket taking off on you

You know, first thing he's going to do is get out the pocket and maybe get a couple yards if he, if he does that and he's going to get down. I mean, he's a, I think he's a little older than me. No, I'm just. Oh, D-Bah. I don't. Yeah, yeah, y'all pick up, you know,

Browns, you know, they'll basically get, you know, anything that they think can help them and then just rationalize everything else out, you know. I don't know how, how y'all work over there? Like, what's the components that'd be like, all right, I'm going to put this guy here and we're going to do this. Like, just go ahead and say, you know what, we're rebuilding and start with one of your young guys. And because I don't, I don't think it's going to get, it can't get much worse, right? I mean, right now, right now when I saw that offense the other day when I was watching Flacco, just, just throw the ball.

You know what I'm saying? Give it a chance. You know what I'm saying? We know what it is. I mean, we need something different. I think behind the quarterback and that game just wasn't too. He just didn't do too much for me. And I like Fleco, but I'm just saying to form of a fan's perspective.

If you want to be able to get a spark going on the offense, that just, it just looks real vanilla. I mean, it wasn't that bad until, like you said, they got into the second half. It was, you know, it was close up until then. No, I'm saying. We didn't get no, but offense, we didn't score any. No, no, you didn't.

That's true. Defense played good. It was fighting as long as they could. I mean, defense's been playing good both weeks, though, when you look at it. I'm not mad at the defense at all. You're going to do it. You're going to fight and just make sure you try to keep the yards down. But if you get put in short field positions and you're continuing to be on the field all the time, you know what I'm saying?

That makes it tough. Yeah, the short field makes it real, real tough because now you've got to go out there and try and put the fire out. And, you know, worst-case scenario in some of those situations, The best you're going to be able to do is three, you know, unless they go and shank a field goal or something. So, yeah, I'm not, I'm not too, I'm not too hype on the Browns. I want them to keep Flacko in there as long as they can, especially when they come play us, like, keep him in there. When they come play, like, make sure you're putting back in there. Man, the record they're going to matter when we come play all.

You already know what it is, DeBo. No, that it doesn't matter. They're going to try to finagle something. They're going to try to finagle some. Man, they did it in the playoffs. Oh, man, let's go over here to the Bengals, man. The Bengals and the Jaguars, dude. Bengals beat him 31 to 27.

But Joe Burrow is dealing with turf toll that may require surgery. He's expected to be sidelined for approximately three months, dude. That's a minute. Do you think they can win with Jake Browning? With him missing that much time? I don't know too much about their backup quarterback, but I'm just sad for Joe Burrow now. 23, I think he went four and three in seven starts in 23.

Okay, okay. I'm just sad about Joe Burrow now, though, man, because he's going to be out for a minute, and this is just becoming a thing. You know what I'm saying? He missed a lot of games 2020, 2020, 23. Now 2025, he says he's missing up to three months. I could be, you know what I'm saying, 12 games.

I just hoping now all of these injuries don't keep adding up, you know what I'm saying, building up, making sure that. Because it just seemed like a, I don't want it to be a pattern. I hope Joe Burrell stays healthy, but I just want him to, you know what I'm saying, watch itself. But I don't think this is a good thing for the Bengals at all. Joe Burrell's one of the best quarterbacks in the league. He's one of my top five. He doesn't, he makes all the right. I just, he does all the way.

I don't, I don't think they have a shot with the other guy, the D. is not playing that well right now. They have times or series that they do well, and then when it comes down to the whole game, it's not always as consistent as it needs to be. I just don't like it without having burrow in there to go ahead and throw points up, you know what I'm saying? I don't like it at all without your borough.

The Bengals go as far as the Burroughs, you know, I don't think they're, one of the defenses that it would be difficult to, you know, score 31 on. So, yeah, I don't think that the Jaguars are not doing too much this year either. So them doing that on them. They got Travis going both ways ahead or what? They do. I mean, I think this, in this game, that first game, he'd think he played like six snaps

on defense and probably like 35 on offense. and I think this one he might have played, I know he played more, so I know he had a pass breakup. I saw a great pass breakup, had about two tackles. So he looked better. He's like he's getting more comfortable.

I want him to, I don't know exactly how they're doing it. I think that he can be, I think he could do more plays. I think he, I think he wants to, I think they would want to, if it was up to me,

I would have him start at cornerback mainly. I think they want to have him at receiver because, you know, they need another receiver. I think his offense ability is going to be able to score points. Why would you put him at corner? Like, he, I think he's going to, I think he'll get more at, at the receiver. You take him out at receiver, like, who else they go throw to?

And then, you know, the adjustments he can make to get to the ball is unreal. No, no, for sure. You get, you give, you know, you give, what's his name, opportunities to, not opportunities, but if he makes a Aaron throw that's high, low, yeah, Trevor, you give Trevor, you know, leeway, when he, you know, makes a throw that's not exactly where it should be, and he can, you know, he can adjust to it and get to it. I don't, I don't, I don't see him being able to be so much better on the defensive side that I would take him off of the offensive side.

I would, I would do what they're doing, but I think I would be more. situation or win it, I don't know. So you would have him, I mean, either way, I would have him play all. I love him on the offensive side of the ball. I love him on the defensive side of the ball. I think they need to give him more. I think he's ready for more snaps just what.

So you think, okay, I see what you're saying. So you're saying, giving more and have him going almost like he was going in college. I mean, yeah, kind of, kind of. Okay. kind of because I think on the on the offensive side of the ball at receiver there's a lot of plays where receivers don't play a hundred percent of the snaps period no you know what I'm saying they rotate no it's the way to even if you're the number one receiver you can play 80 percent of the snaps you know what I'm saying so if Travis Hunter's the number two receiver on the team he could play 50 percent of the snaps there's not all formations not all the stuff where if there's two wise sometimes he'll be in sometimes it'd be out but also if you take him out and you only got him in there you know say like you said 60 percent when you could have having 80% or 85% that takes away the defense having to worry about him and have that threat in there. You know what I'm saying? So I just think he's getting them because I think Travis Hunter, it's not that I want to, I think he's ready.

I think that him being different than any, like a lot of the other players from as far as we saw him do it on the defense side of the ball. We saw him do it on the officer side of the ball in college. But I think just his work ethic, what he does off the football field, how football is really his thing. he don't drink he don't smoke he's not out doing nothing else he's trying to be in the facility and be the best player that he could be so i think film wise he's one of the dudes that is different that i think he's ready for more he can take more on and he takes care of his body like i think starting earlier than other players would have you know what i'm saying so i think with all of that being said giving him a little bit more like giving him a little bit more exposure out there on the field

isn't going to isn't going to hurt i think we'll do nothing but help his help him help his progression and help me jazz. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I understand where you're at. Yeah, he don't do nothing but football and workout. You know, the biggest thing, you got to have, you got to have endurance and the win to be able to go both ways, you know. That's a big thing.

And I'm not mad at it because, Debo, at the same time, but when we played, like, when I was a rookie in Cleveland, we said defense of snaps out there a lot in all special teams, we are averaging like 90 snaps a game. You know what I'm saying? So it can, it's not that if he's out. out there playing. He's right now, he's playing 43 on defense or 46 on defense and six on offense. That's 44 snaps in the game. Joe, how is you playing 90 snaps a game, bro?

Bro, I mean, that's when that's, that's, you're on the field a lot. You're on the field a lot. Oh, yeah. Then I'm playing all four phases. Yeah, I understand. And I'm playing all four phases. Right. Yeah, I was doing that. I was starting and playing all four phases. But I was going to use a rookie. We're like, yeah, you're going to kickoff. I'm doing kickoff. I'm doing kickoff return. I'm doing punt i'm doing punt return you know what i'm saying and then i'm doing defense every play and we out there for a lot defense you'll play 65 70 snaps you know what i'm saying and then 20 25 30 special team jones you out there oh dude i didn't even think about that i was playing like that that's wow you know what i'm saying you don't really tell them but if you put up your whole all the snaps

you're really out there playing all right you can get some snap you get up there in the 90s oh yeah yeah i i i forgot all about the four you do four four a quarter that's easy that's 16 but you're 60 you probably go do more yeah you could get up there dude nice and easy but we've got a problem over here in miami though man bo show dude the dolphins are o and two after a 33 to 27 lost to the Patriots you lost to the Patriots dude like like they allowed whoa dude listen they allowed their opponents on the first 10 drives of this season to score. The first team drives,

everybody scored. So, Indy scored the whole game. And then the first three drives of the New England game, New England scored. Dude, I think they've only stopped three times.

They've only stopped the offense three times, I think, so far this year. I could be wrong. Somebody looked that up, check that out for me, dude. Like, do you think it's already hopeless in Miami, Duke? I think it's over. I mean, hopeless is a big word, but, like, we got, it's not looking good.

They're on a downhill spiral. I'll tell you that. They're not going this way. They're going that way. Listen. I would say that. Did you hear what the coach said in this interview? What did he say?

What did he say? He said, basically they're asking something about winning, and he basically said, well, you got to win to win. I swear to give me that quote I need that quote so bad like I'm looking at I'm looking at him and I'm like yo he looked like he Miami'd out

if you know what I mean like dude it was it was no it was nothing in his eyes that said he was upset it was just and it dude when it comes up give me that somebody got to give me that clip

so you could hear it, I'm like, what did he just say? It was like, you don't know what to say. So, yeah, we got to, well, you do, I'm trying to tell you what's like, we got to win to win. I'm trying to tell you. Yeah, man, that doesn't sound too motivating. No, not motivating at all. Like, my coach can't even give me something, you know, on the, just something to give us some hope. Like, you got to win.

to win? I don't. I mean, they got a, not getting to stop in the first 10 drives of the season. It's crazy. Hold up. I got the quote, brother. I got the quote. Hold up. I'm going to give you to you right now. It said, McDaniel said,

to win games, you have to win games, not lose the game. You won't dope. Something wrong with him. What's up wrong with him? Something wrong. with you. Hey, you just said to win the game, you have to win the game, not lose the game.

Who the fiddle, faddle, don't know that. Something going on over there, dog, it stink. I'm trying to tell you, it stink bad, it smell like a bag of chopped up dunk. I'm telling you it's bad. I told you that I played for, I played for your man, and he was our Robert Seaver coach in Cleveland. I said he's a very brilliant, brilliant man. He's a brilliant, brilliant mind. But I don't know if he should be a head coach. Because that's not a head coach answer.

We've got to win the game. That is not an answer for anybody. I know. You know, he's trying to be smart. I'm just here, so I don't, you might as well just went Marchion. I'm just, I'm just here, so I don't get fine. Yeah. He just, you know, but, you know, like Bill Belichick won't even answer questions.

He's being a smart ass. He knows you got to win the game. Hey, let's lose the game. Belichick be answering questions but not really answer. He don't even talk like that. He'll be mumbling and all that. I know. That's his personality to do the same thing about Belichick of saying,

you got to win the game. That don't even make sense. At least Belichick makes sense to win the game. You have to win the game, not lose the game. Do you understand that? No, I understand. And go and tell my son's. He got to be saying that because he's just annoyed with the question.

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in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on IHartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. For McDaniels, you want to win the game? To win the game, you have to win the game. and I lose him. And it was like an epiphany to me, boom. Oh, my God.

He's right. I don't want none of what he's on. Because that was nothing to answer. I don't want nothing of what he's on. Teapal, you are hilarious. Dude, okay, listen, man. All right, so we will roll over here to the Bears. All right.

The Bears and first of your head, coach, Ben Johnson, our 0-2. Now, Caleb was underwhelming against them. 52 to 21 lost to the Lions. Hey, see, the Lions is who I thought they was. See, they went on out there. So Green Bay is really that. Because what they did to the Lions, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And then the Lions went over here and put them paws on them. You know what I'm saying? Like, Yes, because you actually have, get your hands on my child.

They probably had people like wives and girlfriends in the stairs. I'm like, get your hands on my baby. Get your hands on my baby. It was like that. Like, that's out of control. I'm telling you. We talked about, we talked about this. We talked about a 50, you can't, you can't put no, you can't put no 50 piece on me, man.

They went and they had a point to prove. We talked about the lines. We said, what they're going to do? We're going to see what happens when the bears play the lines. And I'm like, I believe in the lions. board and I believe in the bears, just the organization of what they got going on. And they went to prove a point. They dog stumped them boys and wasn't trying to know that that's, I like the lines

because like, this is professional football. You know what I'm saying? Like, no disrespect, but you got to stop it. You got to stop it. Keep us out the end zone. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I rock with how the lines went about this, like trying to prove a point. People were talking crazy about their offense.

They like this. Okay, we're going to get it pop and we're going to get it back rocking, running back. Gibbs. We're going to get it to Armara. We're going to get it rocking. So they did a great job. And at the end of the day, you got to stop himself. I'm not mad at any team that's trying to get their self going. When you're coming off a loss, coming off not playing well, coming off not feeling good, you're going to go do what you got to do. Because, you know, if it was the other, on the other foot, they would try to dog stump you. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, and they got, they got, you know, places you can. For sure, for sure. And,

you know, they got Caleb some help in, you know, in this offseason. And, you know, it just, I don't, I don't know if it, if it's really helping. I mean, did you, did you see the bears looking this bad with them actually adding something to helping? I didn't think they was going to look this bad, but I mean, I still, like you said, for me, for me, it's a bigger sign of it's not, I don't know what Caleb can do. I think it's the top. It's the, it's the, it's the kitchen. Whoever's bringing and putting the pieces and stuff together, it's not working. And I don't know if it's the play calling now, because it's just, it's been happening to too many quarterbacks. I don't think that I think if he were to leave and go in a different situation,

he may look like a better quarterback. You know what I'm saying? I don't know what the Bears got going on over there. He doesn't look like anything's going on time. I got a backup quarterback over there now. It's not who. Tyson, his name is Tyson Bayesian. He's a, he's a undrafted. He's an undrafted guy. I think he went in the game. He's going for the Bears? Yeah. Yeah, I do. I'm like, he's undrafted. I think they just. signed him to like a 10 million dollar contract like three weeks ago bro like they're serious i'm trying to tell you like he went in i want to say it was the maybe the last two series of the game okay like obviously to get some you know get some snaps in and you're talking

you know like i said undrafted backup they just got to do a 10 million dollar contract three weeks ago um oh and his daddy dude is uh Travis like the arm wrestling champion dude yeah oh yeah do you think do you think they just doing that to get them some snaps they're not about to they're not about to start him i just gave him i just gave him 10 million three weeks ago not to not to go ahead and maybe say hey maybe we uh you know maybe we don't messed up maybe we need to go ahead and see if we can't dad I'm not at him, you know, at what point do you say? I mean, he don't, he don't consistently do what he needs to do.

Like, the first quarter seems to be the only time he could do something. I don't know. Yeah, if I was Caleb, I would hope they try something stupid like that and let me get up out of there and go somewhere else. Like, if they're thinking crazy like that, like Caleb's the problem, I think the bears are really lost their minds. That's just my opinion. you think the bears are the problem you don't think he he has any no downside i think that he has

some downside i think that he could do better but i think that he's the he's not the reason why they're losing games i don't think that he's been in a position where they're they're not helping them with the play calling they're not helping them as much with the run game like with the line he's scrambling i just don't think with all other quarterback justin feels is looking better like then then i think it's the coaches i think that he is the only i don't think he's being coached that well over there. That's just my personal opinion. I feel like he goes to a different team.

He would do better. I don't know, man. I don't know if he would if he would do better because I ain't seen him do better. I mean, I'm saying, you know, I'm doing like, you know, I'm doing like my guy over there at games. You know, I don't know if he would do better. I ain't seen him do better. I ain't seen him do better, so I don't know if he could do better. But how you do better is you got to do better.

Right. that hey boom you got that how you do better you gotta do better you gotta do better yo hey we need that one right there how you do better you got to do better you gotta do better yes we'll see though man

bro Jerry golf dude he had 334 yards five tuttees five tuttees defense wasn't helping to me either now No, that's what I'm trying to tell you. How many, like, Caleb, he going to do as only much as he can, but he can't stop five tuttees getting thrown in the air. He can't stop them not getting after golf, them not stopping to run.

You know what I'm saying? I mean, it's a lot going on over there. We could try and get some points over there. We could definitely try. We can get some more points. We get some more points. How concerned are you with Chicago? How concerns should they be over there?

They should be very concerned. There should be very, because there's not too many. going on over there right now. You think there should be some furniture movement, some people should be getting new addresses? 1,000 percent. That's the only way. That's the only way. I, yeah, I've never really been.

That's the whole thing. I don't want to be a hater, but I just never really been a Bears fan. And they just don't prove to me to be, like, ready to make something shape. Like just the people with Trubisky, with Justin Fields, where all these quarterbacks

that's still been going there and not rocking, I can understand, I play for the Cleveland Browns. So that's not the same. Organizational-wise, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes things better get moving.

It could be. It could get ugly. Right. Right. Are you confident in the Bears? Do you like them? Do you like what's going to? No, no.

I don't, listen, man. I got issues with Bears, man. But listen. You got issue with Caleb, too. I got issues with Caleb, too. I got issues with Caleb. too. Mm-hmm.

Okay. Respectfully. Yeah. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Like, I don't know, man. I just, I can't have my quarterback painting his nails, dude. Mm. I just, you, you're too busy flossing your nails in the first quarter.

You couldn't do nothing the next three. I don't know. Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay. You know, do you think it's his work ethic, is dedication and stuff? Like, he worried about too much other stuff? I'm worried about painting my nails in a football game, bro.

What is that going to do for me on the, I can see taping your fingers. I can see, I can see doing all that. You're talking about purely aesthetics, like, of your hands, dude. Yeah. Okay, no, I feel it. I can feel that, I can feel that, Debo. I'm lost. I mean, I, I, that's my quarterback?

Listen, man, I can't. I can't, I can't do it. But the coach, they beat the Broncos 29 to 28. That boy, Danny Dimes. They say, he was like Diana Jones about that, man. The coach are 2 and O for the first time since 2009. The coach are the first team in the Super Bowl era to not punt in either of their first two games. Now that, that is fire.

You didn't punt, not in one. That's impressive. One game. You're telling me, you just, you just destroying people. You're making sure, worst case, you get at least three. Or they could have went for a fourth and not made it too now. But I don't think that was the case. Like, where do you see, where do you see the coats at, man?

Where would you put the coats in the rankings over there? I ain't going to lie to you. Danny Dimes is in a good situation right now, and this is what I'm talking about too. Like, it's the team. It's everybody. Everybody's playing well. Hey, guess what they got?

What they got? Running game. They got a running game. They have a great running game. They're not leaning on Daniel Jones. They're making sure he's an asset. But at the same time, he's doing exactly what he's asked to do. You know what I'm saying?

And they're not leaning. And the defense is doing good. Running game's doing well. And he's consistently. getting wins. So I'm very, very happy for Daniel Jones. And this is the thing where we're saying to, like him, Jalen Hertz, they're doing what they got to do to win. They have great running games. They have a good defense and they're not leaned on to do everything.

They don't have to make every play. Like with Patrick Mahomes, you have a great quarterback here when you have good run. You need to give him some running game at the end of the day. Just making sure that you have your quarterback trying to do too much every time, like trying to be Superman. It doesn't always work. and it's a team sport. So them being able to do that extra is always going to help out,

but them having to have a great running game like who we got, Taylor, the running back for the Colts. You know what I'm saying? Just being able to turn around and hand the ball off to him takes a lot of weight off your shoulders. So I think this teams,

they're just doing a really good job of all three phases of working together and he's doing a great job of his 11th for what I like to call it. Yeah, I tell people that all the time and the person I use is Ben, Like when Ben first came in, Ben didn't have to be the guy he ended up being. Like, we had a run game, you know, it was run, run, and, you know, have him, you know, do a pass.

And if he, if he couldn't find a receiver, they were covered, he, you know, run around extra time. Now defense breaks down, it's spotting throw, you know. But like you said, you got to make them have to put seven, eight guys in the box because they want to stop that run game. Now you give them that play action and you give you a quarterback opportunity. to get easier reads without having to sit there and gun and try and read all of the things that they're doing. And over the time of progression each year, each game, each game each year, your quarterback is going to naturally get better at doing it from doing it, but trying to, you know, throw them in

there and make them do it, you know, from day one, it's going to be difficult. Yeah. 1,000%. And I think they do it. That's what I'm saying. It's team ball and not just leaning because you don't want to, they can be able to grow. mean, if they're going to have growing pains, he's not going to come in and be just not, not making any mistakes, but it makes it so much easier when you're not asked to just sit back

on first down and shotgun and sling the ball around. Well, you know first down, you're not behind the sticks. You got a second and four, you know what I'm saying? They don't know if you're going to run or pass it. You know what I'm saying? It makes it way easier for a quarterback to convert that than it is for a second of the 10 to a third and 10. You know what I'm saying?

Just being able to keep them ahead of the sticks, making sure that these are short yardage things where the defense doesn't know if you're going to run a pass, keeping them on their heels, helps them out so much. Yeah, yeah. The Falcons and the Vikings, see, that's why I ain't sold on the Vikings, though. The Falcons, beat the Vikings, 22 to 6, bro.

Like, 22 to 6, though. How? You couldn't score no more than six points. I ain't know what was going on with that one. like what do you think of the bike like i don't know man it's well i know bison killed him bjohn killed him he had like almost 170 yards from scrimmage so he went out there

and he did his thing i don't know if the vikings are putting too much Into the quarterback and the JJ? Yes. Into, I don't, I don't know if he's like that. Like, this last two weeks, I know he's not like that. I mean, he may have been like that in, you know, Michigan or whatever. But he had a really good fourth quarter last game. This game did not look too good.

I was hoping that he was. But again, what was that a good fourth quarter by him or just horrible defense by them? It was a little, you know, you got, you got, you got. to make the plays. You got to make the plays that are available. I understand. Yeah, I'll give, like you said, I'll give him credit, but they, I think they assisted in helping him be able. They clip pauled it to him. Okay. I can respect that. But you got, you got to make it. So, yeah, these two, I mean, this game was, I was hoping he was going to come off with a better display after that last, coming off the height, fourth quarter. They only put up six points.

I don't think that looked too good. I know the quarterback coach and my boy Josh McCown are too excited about it. So I will hope to see next week, give him another week, a good week of preparation. Let's see what he does next week. I'm going to give him a little bit more time. Like you say, he's still a rookie. He's still young. He's still young in the league. He's still going to have a lot of learning curves, but

not going to throw out on him yet because he's still athletic. He's still mobile. And I've seen to make some really good though. So I'm going to give him a chance. Give him some time. Yeah, for sure. And now the Jets, they got, you know, they got stumped out by the bills 30 to 10. And that's why I'm so nervous because

the bills went and stumped the jets out and we, me and distillers, let them put 30 something on them. Like, they shut down fields, dude. Like, from the start, office couldn't do nothing. Like, Cook ran for 132, two tugs on. Like,

I mean, you know, they had a week of film. They had a week of film. Bill's came to study. they came ready to play. They came studied up on fields. He didn't really stand too much of a chance out there. And at the same time, the bills, their offense is amazing when you have Josh Allen.

And then being a great quarterback, it doesn't matter because you can just hand the ball off the cook. And he was toting. You know what I'm saying? When you have that, knowing that you could just give him the ball, it was kind of obvious. They kind of spank the jets up.

Yeah, for sure. Run through 49ers beat the Saints. the mac jones came in and relieved of brock purdy jones threw for 279 yards a career height and three touchdowns jones after the game said i've worked a lot on my mindset this off season the line did a great job blocking for me and when they do that i know i can sit in there and let it fly shout out no question shout on mac jones baby let's get it going i'm gonna I got to go over here to my homeboy, though. Colette's Campbell, man.

Calais Campbell with 26 seconds left, baby. Secure the win. For the Cardinals, 27 to 28. OG, I think he in year 19. Congratulations to the Cardinals and to my dude, my guy, Callas Campbell. He trains with me in A-Z, dude. No, I love Colette's, bro. Real good dude.

Yeah, real good dude, man. Yeah, huge dude, man. Again, man, listen, we've got to get up out of here, though. Congratulations to our two ticket winners, James and Olivia, who went to yesterday's Stiller game. Hey. We're sorry it didn't come out like, you know, you wanted to come out, but here's Olivia at the game yesterday.

Check it out. Olivia, go ahead. Had a little ball out there. Boop, boop. Boop, boop. You can't pull it, ball out, pull it, ball it out. Yo, we got some, we got some super, we got some super chat, Joe. We do.

We do. Yeah. We got Rick from New York. We got Rick from New York donated five and said, shout out Rick. Any good potsy stories, Kendra Bell. Oh. I got, I got some good posse stories.

Not too many Kendra Bell stories, but I got some good posse stories. But I can't tell you them because I got to get permission from me first because that's how good they are. Yeah. Yeah. Shad Dollars donated five and said, ah. Shad. Shaw Dollars. That's my good man, Shaw. That's my good.

That's your good man. That's my bad. He said that show out right now. 100. That's what show, man. For a show. Gary H. donated five. said what's with the defense what's what the defense is from college to pro body check what

from college to pro body checking instead of wrapping up i've been seeing this so so many plays break i've been seeing so many plays break to big plays from initial contact um i think it's um they're changing the rules so guys are afraid to put their head in there so if you put your head in there and you make contact and the dude make like he's hurt, you're going to get fine. So it's a lot of arm tackling going on. I think that's what it is. And guys, that's what I think for me. I wouldn't, I wouldn't care. I would just go and make the tackle, but like facing, like, even, they're doing it in high school too. Even facing up somebody is, is not a. Well, he says shoulder checking, Debo. He's talking about people just launching it to

people, like, just trying. He's saying, he's saying, guys. aren't hitting and rapping. He's saying they coming in and they're doing the bump and not hitting the rapping. I see it a lot. Yeah, dudes is just like trying to shoulder bump

and knock people up. You know what I'm saying? They're not wrapping up. They'd be thinking they're coming up with a little boom and they're going to knock them off their feet and they be bouncing off their little stuff. You need to wrap up, little man,

because a lot of dudes would be coming in that Dibot. You know, I don't know if you was too big of a rapper. You were exploding the people in like, when you hit them, they're kind of coming off their feet. Dudes be thinking they're going to do that. And dude's like, man, come on, just bounce off of that and keep going. Those dudes got come and rap instead of trying to just.

For show. Is that, what is that name? Pronounce it for me, please. Oh, Geraldine. Last name? You like, Polly. Collie? Collie.

Donate 10 and said, great show, Debo and Joe. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you very much. Catch us tomorrow also. And on Friday. Monday, Tuesdays, Fridays. All right, look here, man. Thank you all for joining us for this episode of Debo and Joe.

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