Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe - Shedeur gets Browns WK 13 start, Ja'Marr Chase apologizes + 49ers-Panthers REACTION

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Monday Night Football where Christian McCaffrey and the San Francisco 49ers defeated Bryce Young and the Carolina Panthers. Later, they react to Shedeur Sanders being named the Week 13 starter for the Cleveland Browns, Ja'Marr Chase apologizing for spitting on Jalen Ramsey, and much more action from Week 12 of the 2025 NFL season! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE  Timeline:00:00 - Intro02:20 - 49ers beat Panthers25:37 - Ja’Marr Chase Apologizes29:15 - Shedeur Sanders named Browns QB136:00 - High School coach shoves player39:08 - Eagles fan calls police on Philly OC41:40 - Deebo & Joe Defensive Player of the Week43:37 - Steelers-Bills Preview (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro. We were in the car, like a Rolling Stone came on, and he said, there's a line in there about your mother. And I said, what? What I would do if I didn't feel like I was being accepted is choose an identity that other people can't have. I knew something had happened to me in the middle of the night,

but I couldn't hold on to what had happened. These are just a few of the moving and important stories on my 13th season. of Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. How you doing today, Joe? Doing great, brother, Debo, doing great. You know, another day on the set talking to my good man. Speaking, it's football, you know how we do.

Yes. You know what? Before we get started with the football, Joe, Joe, Joe, we went four for four on that prize pick last night, baby. That's my fault. That's my part for questioning you. That's my bad for questioning you. I was worried about kiddle.

You got it done. I damn there had to, like, strain you up so you ain't paid on your boy. I'm riding with you now, Debo. I'm riding with you for sure. Well, we took 25 and made 275. You made me a couple. You made me a couple of dollars. You all.

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we thank y'all for coming on, man. We really appreciate it. Our very first sponsor. Hey, man, we knocked it out to part two. Fof for Fos, Debo. My man, your man, your man, Christian McCaffrey, got it in the first drive.

So hey, that was solid Solid, dude 49ers get out there And like you said, man The first five plays Is McCaffrey He get a run and three I think it was a catch

For another another three That was a nice tackle by What's his name? What the dude name is? Which one? Moraine Something like that Yeah, dude

Merrick. That was it. Merrick. Third down, he got 10. I mean. was giving him the ball every he had eight touches in the first drive dude i think he had nine i mean they was i think he had nine in the first drive dude nine of the 15 i believe was what was all was was was touched the ball was touched by him you know and actually on that third and ten merrick

he was just trying to disguise too hard if he had stayed closer he could he could have stocked him on that man they end up driving down the field i think purdy purdy he went like six six to six and He was a lot of dump downs, a lot of checks. A lot of dump downs. They was just staying on time, dude. They was really staying ahead of the clock. They were staying on time. They get down there and Purdy, I think he would hit Jennings for 12, 12-yard touchdown.

That's when he broke all them tackles. And that was the one-play horn. And then they was trying to punch the ball out. And they was being a little too worried about that and let them, make the tackles in school. You got a shorter tackle first before you go to punching that balls. And then you got it. That was his first bad. That was his first bad play.

by man, my man, J.C. made up for that for show. Oh, yeah, definitely, definitely. Carolina get out there. They got a positive play on the first down, but I think they got a holding call on the second. They end up behind the change. They punt the ball right back to the 49ers. And that man, that man, Purdy get out there and say,

hey, go ahead. P. Horn went on. Hey, that was nice player. That's what I'm telling you. A lot of the plays they've been running against the still. those bang eights you know what I'm saying like they get the play action and then he runs the bang eight that was man-to-man coverage that was a great route route recognition for him to make

that play so horn was bawling bro that was like great man-to-man coverage right dude like they're making plays they're actually like even if he hadn't made the play right there just make that for sure yes we go ahead we get out there what Carolina gets out there and they get like a what was it five five, three, something like that. And then on that third down, Bryce scrambles for seven more. Thank you.

Anyway, they get the first and goal at the one. And he gets picked by Brown. Why are we even throwing a ball right, dude? You just got there. It's first and one. And when he go trying to run it now, one? But, like, why did he throw the ball at all? He could have walked it into the end zone.

You know what I'm saying? He threw it back across his body a little bit, into the end zone that was just not a good play by him i feel you they should have ran the ball they should have gave it to uh riko or uh chubber one of them two should have got the rock but even when he's scrambling out get to the pylon you could have walked it in for a touchdown and you just threw a damn pick makes no sense bro 49ers get the get the ball they get the ball again they're staring ahead of the chains they get to a fourth and one they get like three i think it was you know, with a tush push.

That was a lot of yards on a simple one. That wasn't even a tough one. No, that was just quarterback sneak, quarterback sneak, right? He's finding a gap in getting through that. Yeah, he just found the gap. You know, Purdy ended up scrambling for nine on the second and seven. They get the first down. They get to the third down again.

And your boy gets picked again. On damn near the same kind of route. One the man, post play. These d-bs, my man, wasn't they? Mike Jackson, do he got to get it out faster? These DBs just really doing it. One thing, it is a little bit, it's a little late, you know what I'm saying? But these DBs at the end of the day are making great plays on the ball.

They're like, they're turning into the receiver. So the quarterback, he can lead it a little bit more, but I'm not going to take away anything from these DBs that are going high pointing the ball. You know what I'm saying? Like not touching the receiver, running, running, not using their arms. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just straight feet. Yeah, they, that was moving, man.

The defense was doing their thing out there Especially Carolina's defense, dude They was doing their thing I ain't a lie 49's defense did well too But they was going up against a little Smaller animal than what they got They got over there in San Fran do

Yeah Carolina get out there They go three and out Because the receiver just totally Crows the ball on that third down Yeah You're not good enough But your team is

You know When you're playing with the Panthers like that your team isn't that good to be just missing the normal catches. You got to have that. Yeah. Yeah, you got to have that. That's simple clean. And you got to make some catches.

You may not have supposed to have me. Help your quarterback out a little bit. That's hurting your quarterback guy. Right. Yeah, bro. 49ers get out there. McCaffrey fumbles the rock. They got so lucky with Richard.

You see what is up with the panic? Why is everybody just falling all over the ball? We had it. Fall on it. Just drop. Just drop. Just drop. The lineman came in there.

They're trying to get there. He came in there, dropped. Mede be looking crazy. Right. He just so panicked, you know what I'm saying? You got to just get down. Just calm down, fall on the ball. Then they get to the second down and party like, listen, I know y'all missed, you know

what I'm saying, that fumble recovery. I'm going to give you this. He throws his third pick, second time. time to horn. Brother, brother, brother. This right here, Debo was a master class in playing cornerback. This man's has deep thirds, Debo, and George Kittle is the tight end on that side, so he's blocking. You know what I'm saying? And once you block, you can look across the field and try to find work. You might have an over. You might have a dagger. And he went and found the dagger and went and picked that ball off. Bertie's not thinking that the cornerback on the deep third

on the other side of the field is going to come across the field and pick off your dagger. That's not happening. Horn, bawling. Like, just, like, that's manny man coverage. And then that's zone coverage. You knowing exactly what you're supposed to do. Your assignment is court kiddle. Now, oh, he's blocking.

Now I can look across for some more work. Go make a play, go steal something. Like, that play right there, I was like, man, this dude is not only a man making the play on the bang-aid pick, undercutting. Now you're just playing, this is zone. Now, this is when I can use my eyes. I can read the quarterback. You know what I'm saying?

So, God, that, it was just, I was so happy to see it. Because me being the quarterback, I know what you're supposed to be looking at. I know that you have, okay, you have thirds here. Now your next thing is coming across. You can go steal something. And he went and did it. I'm like, dog, bravo.

Bravo, J.C. Horn. No question. Carolina get the ball back. The offensive horn going ahead. He made a nice run for 11 after a little short pass. Then, what was it, down league? He ran for, what was it, about eight weaving in and out of that thing, something like that.

And then four plays, you know, They get a, what was it, they ended up stopping them. And the defense, you know, they, they held them to what was it. They go, they go, yeah, they go three to seven. San Fran, get back out there. Second down, he gets kiddle for that good twink and five. And then, yeah, go, yeah, go. And then he both, he tries to throw two more picks.

Like in the zone, he almost picked that joint off with a horn almost had he over-kiddle. Dude, back to back. And then the next joint, my man, hide a, it was hide a kiddle. And then the next one. He ran that curl route for him. And he, good thing you threw it outside

because he would have picked that too. Right. He would have, yeah, if he didn't, they didn't misread each other, yeah, he would, he would have got that too. So I'm like, God, dang, Bertie, you out here, don't you out here trying to give,

give up the money. So Carolina holds them to a field goal. They go up 10 to 3. Carolina get back out there in 49. Niners forced a three-in-out, so it is what it is. 49ers get the rock back. I think it was what. It was right before halftime, so they kept on dumping it off to McCaffrey.

Yeah, it was like three, they did like three plays or whatever. Half-time ended up. I appreciate that, though. You know what I knew that. They was giving McCaffrey all them, y'all. Yes, sir. Had time is 3 to 10, baby. You know, Carolina gets the ball

and fumbles on the kickoff return, bro. Like, they got lucky. The dude, their fumbling got so lucky he was able to recover that. Dude, like, that would have been a disaster if they could have got that rock back. It would have been over with... Oh, no, for sure.

Because the Panthers, they didn't have no type of real offense. So if you keep giving the ball back, you saw your defense keeps turning it over, getting the ball to you, and you're not doing nothing with it. Yeah, they... They get out there, first play, dude makes a nice run for about 17. Then they get a holding call.

It's first than, what, 20 now? They end up not being able to convert. D.B. made a nice play on that third. Yeah, third and seven, great play. The slam is you and the man. Yeah. Yeah, 49ers get the ball back. Here go to that man, McCaffrey again.

He goes for 12. Again, this whole drive, they just basically able to. stay ahead of the chains. They go, they go like 13 plays, 80 yards. They finish it off with a 12 yards.

Sweet to McCaffrey, just easy. Yeah, they go up, what is it, 13 to 17 now? 17. During that drive, I think that's when they lost

horn. I think he ended up going out with a concussion during the drive. So he was no longer going to be on defense for him. That was a bit.

I think that was a big hit, especially when you're, you know, you're a guy that's rushing. You ain't got him out there covering. You don't have more time to get to the quarterback. Carolina, get back out there. Second is short. He gives, I mean, second down, he gives him a short little pass that he's able to, Herbert's able to turn to 14.

And then Hubbard gets a run for like five. Second down, it's Hubbard again for like 10. And then it's Hubbard again for six. There's a lot of Hubbard. No question, bro. And then they're able to hit, I think it was McMillan for 29-yard touchdown. That was the best pass. That was the quarterback's best pass of the day.

Yeah, we're back in. They went for two. They went for two. Yeah, I would have kept that. Never take points off the board. I don't know why we're not scoring. We haven't been able to get in here. Let's just get the field goal.

Yeah, it's nine to seven. now again 49ers get back out there here come McCaffrey and Kittle you know they get I think it was

they get to like a first and 10 at the 15 yard line and back to back plays they actually stuff McCaffrey for a loss

they end up being able to hold it to a field goal so it's 20 to 9 now and Carolina get back out there and like the first play db like almost picked him off if he could have held on to it but now it's cocker cocker take a short one like 18 the next play is cocker for nine

then i think uh it was the second down and this was basically the end of it was browns i think second when he went to try to throw that dig he broke on that joint so clean y'all say hey receiver's trying to push him off he held on to it a little bit i mean no harm no foul yeah it was a little was a little it was a little it was a little tough i mean he was trying to push off too now he had the arm fully extended now if you had to grab it like if you push it that's why you keep pushing out there you're pushing i can pull a little bit you're trying to push me you're literally fully extending your arms to push me so i'll be looking at that the same way too deep oh like why you is why is it okay for you to push me so if you get a push and i get a little

hand on you and they don't call nothing well that's what it is it is it is what it is that's what it is that's what it is 49ers get out there and they get a delay a game on that second down end up making them have to go three and out there and gave carolina the ball back you know second down down he he goes for like 11 and the next play they hit like 14 and then they get 15 but it's an illegal touching got out of bounds can't do that you can't do that and come back in and get that thing and then after that young got sacked for what, negative, what, seven, eight, ten, something like that. He lost eight or ten yards, something like that.

They ended up settling for a field goal attempt, and they miss it. Came over. That's all. Yeah, it's done. It don't matter what you do after that. Like, this right here for me was like, it was like a all-around team win, more like defense. I think for San Fran, the defense stepped up for the most part when Pertie threw those

interceptions, bro. Like, the one interception, I believe they got nothing. The other interception, they may have, they may have got a field goal on one of them. And then the other one,

they were answering. They were asking. They got a pick. They were going to pick for a bit. And then, yes, the other, yeah, the one interception, it was a back-to-back. So they went to pick for a pick.

For a pick. A punt. And a field goal, they gave up three and got an interception back. Like, that's how your defense is supposed to respond. I'm with you. And San Francisco's defense only gave up, what, like 70 yards rushing? I think Bryce had, what, maybe 170 yards passing, two interceptions along with that. But McCaffrey, dude, McCaffrey did what McCaffrey does.

Like, that's what it came down. Almost 90 yards rushing. another 53 receiving. Kittle went out there and got him six for almost 80. You know, Purdy, yo, he got to clean up what he's doing, bro. Because if, if, if, you know, he left a couple of picks out there, too. It was a couple of picks. He could have to do a smooth five picks, an easy five-pick day.

Like, you playing against different competition, they got a better offense? This is not going to turn out like this. Not at all. For me, it was Christian McCaffrey is, amazing. And the ways that they use him, getting him to ball, like, I felt like I was watching the little league game almost. It's like, get the ball to your best player. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's going to make something happen for us. So they kept on getting him to rock. Purdy, every time he threw the ball. You saw he was 0 for two for two picks if the

ball went past 15 yards. So he was doing a lot of checkdowns, a lot of making sure, you know what I'm saying, staying ahead of the sticks getting the ball to McCaffrey. But for me, he can't, you got to protect that rock. You can't be in any of those bangings. You got to throw it to where your receiver can get it or nobody can get it. You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, he got to definitely tighten up. Their defense plays amazing. Just being able to step up when your quarterback keeps putting you in positions

where you keep having to get on the field and you answer, you answer the call, you get another pick. You know what I'm saying? You give up a field goal. You give up a punt. You know what I'm saying? You're forcing the punt. You're just going up there and answering the bell.

So I was, I love the defense. I love how Christian McCaffrey was playing. But Bertie just had me looking a little crazy with any pass that went over 15. yards that if you didn't know if it was going to be a picker or not. So he just got to tighten up with that. But their team is solid. Yeah, he was gunslinging out there. So at the end of the gang, their jenny's got, got punched in his manhood by Trayvon,

you know, cheap shot. We can't show it, but what are you, what's worse, spit on or being punched in, which one? Damn. I would say spit, spit. You want me to go, go ahead, because I'm just flustered. I'm not trying.

The levels of disrespect are just messed up. The level of disrespect. For me, the pain of being hit is going to be worse. But the disrespect of being spit on can't be compared. Okay, that's what I was trying to say. Because I'm like, if you get hit in the, You get hit in the problem. You can't react initially because you're hurting.

Like, you're hurting. I got to get you later. Right there, you know what I'm saying? Well, you get spit on. Right. I got to get you. Listen, man. So my son, I don't know what I said.

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I was going through a walk in my neighborhood. Out of the blue, I see this huge sign next to somebody's house. Okay. The sign says, my neighbor is a Karen. Oh, no way. I died laughing. I'm like, I have to know. You are lying.

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why you don't do that. So the first time he did it was like an accident. You know what I'm saying? And I folded down. I'm like, oh, da, da, da, you know. And, you know, he kind of thought it was funny. Oh, so now I can make that. I know how to get that down.

Right. Right. So the next time, it was same day. You know, down, day, they're memories. Down, down. So the same day, he came over. He fired on me, right? I'm like, hey, no, don't do that.

That hurt, right? I said, don't do that, that hurt. So a little while later, he comes back and he goes to fire on me again. So I waited. I said, I told you don't do that. Yeah. So when he goes to walk around, I walks up to him and I pop him right in here, right? And I said, that's why you don't do it.

It hurts. You sat him down as a, how old was he three? Dude, he was like three, four. This is the thing, dude. A three, four year old cannot understand reason. I got the most understanding, reasoning, discipline into my kids between the ages of like two and six because they couldn't understand me explaining to them they don't have a capacity but they understand reward right from wrong so if i tell you to do something and to not do it

he may not even understand right from wrong but he will understand reward you understand pain that's one thing you understand like you're going you get little johnny and he's going over there and trying to stick his finger in that socket or stick a key in that socket or stick something in that socket and you run over there and you tell him no no no no no no and you're going pull him away, and now he runs back over there, and you tell him, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you pull him away, and you keep doing that. It just now became a game. He thinks you're playing a game. No, no, no, no. I'm trying to save your life. So me, I tell you once, after I tell you once, I correct you. That correction then is pain.

He's like, you know what? If I do that, I get pain. He don't know that if he sticks that key in that socket, he's going to die, but he understands the pain. So you can't sit here and explain to a, you know, a two to six year old that you can't do this because it's going to risk your life. Risk for me. That's easy, dude. It's easy. And if you don't do that, you get kids that grow up into adults who don't listen, don't pay attention, aren't productive members of society and everything else.

That's facts. But, yeah. I'm doing the same thing with my kids, it's right from wrong. And I'm being able to like, if you do something, if you're, when you walk into the crib and you're doing everything in the right way, I'm never, never going to be punishing you. But if you do stuff that's wrong, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to definitely let you know what it is. So, that.

Oh, yeah, dude. Listen, I do not spare the ride, as they say. Well, I haven't had to do nothing with the rod in a long time. You know, one, actually, James was a little, little tougher than my youngest, Henry. You know, Henry, he couldn't take it. He was like, uh-uh, no, I don't want none of that. James probably, you know, he took, his last one was probably about 12 and 13. Henry was way before that.

If I come into, if I come and I got a question to ask and it could possibly be some, some whooping behind it, oh, Henry go drop the dime. He ain't taking a whooping. No, I feel that. I feel that. Yeah, dude. But the Panthers, they got a situation over there. What, what you want, the quarterback, Bryce Young, you think, you think it's time for them to

maybe move on from him? I don't think Bryce Young is that good And there's no disrespect He's a little small Sometimes with his arm He's just not making all of the plays They have a What they need to do is lean on their running game

RICO Dobbin Hubbard is good That rookie receiver that they have is solid But you say it's time to move on I think so I'm with you I would agree I would want

Actually I 100% agree that it's time to move on. Like, you got to realize you're a first round pick, not just a first round pick. You were the first pick. Like, your improvement from year to year has to be greater than what it is. They want you to be, you know, a franchise, real-life quarterback. And your improvements year to year haven't been that.

I think his completion rate is still only like, what, maybe 62, 63%, something like that. And that's only up from 59 or 60 his rookie year. Like, you look at, you know, you look at these, Drake May, dude, what is he, like 70 or something completion? Then your franchise quarterback's like, you know, Dak Prescott, Sam Darno, Josh Allen, these guys are in the upper 60s, chair golf, all that. I think, yeah, I don't see a. Well, when I look at him, though, there's no. And there's no disrespect, but sometimes, like you were, like you say, you're the number one overall pick, there's, you've had your time, you've been able to go out there.

But, like, you, when we're talking about franchise quarterbacks, these dudes are making $60 million a year. Would you want Bryce Young as your quarterback at $60 million at $30 million? Like, I don't, not $30 million. Like, I'm just trying to figure out, like, once you get that good time to see what you have, then it's like, we got to be able to, I don't think he's going to be able to win you a Super Bowl. So, like, if that's the path, you know what I'm saying, is that, I don't think it's it's always the path.

No, no, so, yeah, so it's not going to be the path with him being the quarterback. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. But every team will hope the path is to win the Super Bowl. Oh, yeah, no question about it. So, Jamar Chase, he said he was sorry for spitting what he did was wrong. Can we put that up? Can we put that up? There we go.

There it is. Thanks a lot. What do you think of this, Joe? I didn't think of it. I'm going to go ahead and take off for you. So, Joe, give me a beat. This right here, this right here was like almost a perfect apology. Okay.

Like, almost. It was good. Like, it was good. Whoever his team is that he had write this up, they did it good. They did a good job writing this up, okay? But it wasn't perfect, okay? He apologized to the Bengals. He apologized to the stillies.

He apologized to the NFL. He apologized to the coaches. He apologized to the teammates. He apologized to the fans. Oh. He had a, listen, listen, he had a small slip-up. There's one person he forgot. And the small, listen, listen, it was just one.

I'm just saying it was a small slip-up, then it was a big slip-up. So the small slip-up is where he says this has been a tough season with some incredibly hard losses we've all been frustrated but instead of stepping up with calm and class and leadership I let my having to sit

what he said I let my having to sit out yesterday whatever basically he said him having to sit out yesterday made his actions unexcusable and it won't happen again so you telling me

you having to sit out was what made your actions unexcusable no you sitting out had you lose a half a million dollars but that right there was just that was just a little slip the big slip was finally i want to apologize to the fans no finally should have been you apologizing to jaylor ramsie that should have been your finally i highly doubt you called him personally and if you did you still should have put him in there because you made this public public statement.

You should have let the public see that too. Yep. Yep. You, like you said, Debo, that was eloquently written out. He said, apologize to everybody, but the main person that you spit on. And at the day, I think, you know,

you said, oh, because you sat out the game, your game checks are $400,000 a game. So, you know what I'm saying? They put you put you two games. You would have missed $800,000. You know what I'm saying? That was five. He missed five and some change. It was $500,000.

So I'm like, basically, you're just saying that it was the money part. I just wish as a person you would have just been like, you spit on Jalen Ramsey. There's nothing but words, y'all are always in the heat of the battle being able to go. So you apologize in the fans, people that wear your jersey, the coach is that, but not the person that you actually spit on that was just literally, y'all are playing against. Y'all are in the heat of the moment, you know what I'm saying, going at it? He did nothing out of line where, what was what to, what, was, what to, what, to cause him to spit.

You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just, it ain't nothing you could do to. It ain't nothing you could do that could cause God caused me to spit. It ain't nothing you could say because he didn't. That's what I'm saying. We saw, we saw no actions that, like, it's nothing.

So I, I'm with you. This is just an attempt to try and hopefully them reduce the fine because that's the only thing that could happen. But that's not going to happen because he already served the whole thing. And on top of that, the finally, you double back with the, I don't take anyone wearing my jersey for granted. Hey, I just lost half a million. Make sure y'all keep wearing my jersey. I'm trying to make it out.

I need that backpack. I need that back. That's it. I hope, but I hope, Jamar, man, like, real talk, that the spittance party, you know, that how that is, but we were talking about it. There's no scenario where you should be spinning on anybody. I think honestly he does feel you know what I'm saying bad you got to be feeling crazy

the way people are talking about it and the way everybody says spitting is not acceptable I just wish you would apologize to the man that he spit on in the joint like hey listen man sometimes things not said

are more important than things said and also Let's get to these good old brownies, man. Gabriel was clear, but Shudur will start versus the 49th. I'm very, very, very happy about that. I'm excited. I'm happy for, I'm happy for Shador. I'm happy for the Browns.

I'm happy for just Cleveland. I'm happy for Miles Garrett. I'm happy for Denzel Ward. I'm happy for the defense of Cleveland. I'm happy for the city of Cleveland. And I love Dylan Gabriel too, but I wouldn't have wanted him to come back and be able to come back and he would have had to like if they would try to start him or anything like that, just for the crowd being able to boom.

You know what I'm saying? First incomplete pass, he doesn't deserve that. He had his shot. He had his time. He had six games to play. You know what I'm saying? Then he had his concussion. And then now Shador's time to go out there and play.

And I'm just happy now. It just is what it is. He has his time that he can go out there. practice. He can get all of his reps. Now we're going to play against the 49ers. And then we'll see, you know what I'm saying? Hopefully he just gets better and better each game. I'm not going to say like the last one when he was 11 for 20 for 20 that like that was just dropped. Oh my God, he's the best player in the world. No, but it's progress. It's something to move forward. It's something to build on. He could still, you know what I'm saying, from the first game,

four for 16 to 11 for 20 to now let's see what we can do, see if we can not have an interception. You know what I'm saying? If Jerry Judy doesn't fumble that ball, that's another drive that maybe who knows what happens? You know what I'm saying? He could have scored again. So just being able to keep the ball, just keep the main thing, the main thing. I'm happy now that he is named the starter,

so you don't have to worry about outside noise. He's going to be able to get his plays in, his first 15. He's going to be able to meet with the receivers and all that extra work that you got to do, do it. You know what I'm saying? This is your time to be able to go out there and perform. So I just want him to lock in and keep that main thing, the main thing.

And you don't have to, don't, this is why I would tell D. Shador, we, we, we're here for you. You don't have to project yourself out there. We know what's going on. We know about just you getting a little bit of practice reps. So you just go out there and grind and ball and just, you know, you got a great defense. You know what I'm saying?

Be complimentary of your guys. You know what I know some people just don't like how his swag and just the way that he carries itself sometimes. Bump that. If you're ball and you're balling, but I just want to let him know, like, we got your back for all that. But I just don't want him to give haters reasons to be, you know what I'm saying? Just on his net for no reason. Do you think that this was actually Kevin Stefansky's decision to start Shador? Or do you think that it was other people who made the decision or made sure he made the decision to start Shador?

I think if he would have tried to come back and start Dylan Gabriel, then it would have just been all hell would have broke loose. That's not what I asked you, Joe. What did you ask me? I asked you, do you think it was his decision alone to stop your door

or did someone else make sure he made that decision? I would say that somebody else, I would say it was above his head. If he had to pick, I think he would have had Dylan Gabriel probably start. Just me personally, I think, because I know he likes Dylan.

Well, that's his, that's his man. So if he personally, I think he would have started Dylan, but I don't think logically walking into that locker room, talking to other professionals, talking, talking to your team, looking Miles Garrett and them dudes in the eyes, you can't go in there and start Dylan Gabriel once he comes out of a protocol from what you've seen so far. And now we have Shador coming off the win and no fucking rookies had since 95. So he's going to start again. Dylan has six.

Get his man. This is going to be his second game starting. Like he could at least be able to, you know what I'm saying? Give him some time. So you can't just take him out and put in Dillon like he was fucking Tom Brady or like Patrick McHones just had a concussion and came back. No, we're talking about Dylan Gabriel. You know what I'm saying?

He hasn't done too much, not knocking. But like, now we have another rookie that's the quarterback that just won his last game. Let's see what he can do. You know what I'm saying? So. Yeah, I 100% agree with you because if that was the case, he would have had more of a response. Instead of, I'm just worried about this game, we're talking about this game when they asked if he would start next week.

Yeah, 100% was not his decision to alone. Like, they like, yo, you go in here and tell these dudes that Dylan is starting, they're not going to be happy about this and you may lose the locker room. I think so for me personally I'm starting him on one throw and that was that 50-yard bomb on the run on the money because I know for a fact Dylan Gabriel cannot do that he can barely get the swing pass out that ended up going for 66 hmm lebo you I'm picking up what you putting down Hey, matter of fact, picking up what you're putting down, they said a high school coach shoved the opposing quarterback on the side of the state championship game. Listen, bro, I don't, listen, I don't know exactly what, but I'm going to tell you right now, hey, ain't no way it was, it was a black kid, I promise you, because their game kept going on. And they said the quarterback, look, and they said, we got it.

Yeah, hold on, hold on. Let me see that. Sit down. Can you make it bigger? I can't make it. And then, yeah, the quarterback get kicked out because he throw the ball and a bum. He wants all the smoke. He's like, what's the coach?

Oh, my God. They said he actually, the coach. They kicked the kid out and the coach stayed in the game. On the sideline. Man, listen, listen. Oh, my daddy, bro. That game ain't finishing. he gave him the good stiff arm too

look all he had to do was move yeah he was like he's not look he put his hand out there to pit buddy the contact and look laughing like it's sweet trying to walk off like he ain't do nothing right hey the side the sideline he couldn't have stayed there

they listen they had had game over with football that's what I'm saying though you're a grown man you just put your hands on my child on my son Are you crazy? Are you out of your mind? Hey, this is the thing, man. Like, a lot of people will kill for anything.

Very few people will die for something. I'm ready and willing to die for mine. There's nothing that's going to stop me. That's your kid. I'm doing whatever I want to do because I'm going to die for it. I'm not. A bunch of people kill for stupid shit.

How many people willing to go in, there and die for something, die for somebody. I know you are, Dibald. That's how you get killed. He's tripping. I mean, that's, you got, they're supposed to be dudes that are supposed to be teaching them, like, leadership. If anything, he's supposed to throw the hand out.

You're going to try to protect the man for running into the sideline. Right there, you're supposed to catch them. You know what I'm saying? Like, end of the day, we know when you're playing against other teams, it is what it is. But you're never really trying to, you're not trying to, you're not trying to, that's just dirty don't you know what I'm saying you're not really trying

to just harm people outside of the game once you get outside of the lines it's all love that's why when you finish the games it's always you tap up you meet at the center you pray together

you know what I'm saying because the end of the day we're playing a game that we love and we know it's a violent violent violent game but you're not really trying to do weird things

that's just like as a person you just like that's just dirty there's certain things that you don't do you don't hit like what are you doing

and then you're trying to walk off and act like you're supposed to be leaders of men and trying to teach these dudes how to be the best representation of themselves

and you out here looking crazy and no wonder like somebody's parents obviously would come outside of it and you're trying to give them the example

that ain't the example you want to set terrible that ain't the example you want to set terrible that's crazy I hate saying stuff like that man

because they lead in our kids Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe no I'm not if we put that he's going to jail

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Go-bye. Debo, straight to jail. Him. You're going to jail, bro? He's going to jail. You're playing with 9-1-1 for likes. Like it's funny. No.

Hey, that's funny until they come and grab you. Until you're in the Ford, Nelson. Like all these kids that are doing this, man, y'all going up to people who are unawared of what you're doing. Do a skit where somebody is aware. It's somebody fake doing that. People out here, some people losing their lives on them. They're playing with people too much, man.

Some people not, some people not friendly. Some people don't like to play. You don't know. Ain't nobody always playing with you. You don't know what somebody's been going through that day. You know what I got on me. You don't know if I'm a kid still carried person and you running up on me with something that looks like it can hurt me or take my life.

I'm going to lay you down. You were trying to go viral. You're going to jail and hell. Six feet deep lights. You're going to jail and hell is crazy. Like, come on, man. Y'all needs. But buddy on that joint, playing with that terrorist attack,

calling 9-1-1-1-clock with the parents. You're going to jail. They're going to lock you up, man. As soon as they realize who you is. Y'all go ahead and pick him up. Hey, let, run that video one more time so they can see your face real good. Damn, we, we. Yes, I snitch, I tell.

I snitch, I tell. You understand? I ain't, uh-uh. I ain't having a name. No parts of us. No what? Joe, who are your defensive player of the week, boss? You know exactly who my defensive player of the week is.

Let me see who it is. Let me see. Let me see. Who you're a defensive player the week? Let me see. I don't know. I might have somebody else. No, no, no.

Who you got? Who you got? Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett. And we won. Who is that? Miles Garrett. generational talent

for the Cleveland Browns our Cleveland Browns 18 sacks right now three sacks of the last game 18 set 2 4 sponsors Miles Garrett Yeah

Miles Garrett Defensive player of the week He stood on business Are you sure And Coach Defansky gave him the game ball You know You know I

Listen, I ain't, I ain't going to lie to him. Until he did what he did, I was going with Will Anderson. That's not a bad choice, Houston. He was going crazy. But he went and did what he did. So I got to, I got to give it to him. I got to give it to him. I got to give it to him.

I appreciate it. Yeah, but I was, the thing I was looking at, I was trying to see his name on the stat. sheet with the Steelers when we played so I didn't see nothing in that yeah yeah yeah you did it because you yeah so we ain't you know we ain't too worried about it hey let that worry by everybody else everybody else could worry about it so I'm saying this to say sack record you just got to hope he get it before he faced the Pittsburgh still is in that last game because uh but hold up Devo what about you got we're going to talk about what you all right listen listen listen

Okay. I'm just saying he ain't piss the drop on us. Only thing I would be worried about, like I said, was a defense. And you personally thought I was being too hard on the defense. I really did. I really did. So I went on here, did some research, and I pulled up some stuff. And what did I send you on? What did the chat GPT say?

What did they tell? I really couldn't believe that you sent me this because I'm looking from just out like watching it. It doesn't look. I mean, sometimes, like, the open, the big plays, the gashes, the not jamming two, you know what I'm saying, in the seams. So the chunk plays that we're getting, I just was like, but we're been, but don't break. You know what I'm saying? But I didn't know it was. I'm tired of that.

We can't bend no more. Still don't bend. I'm telling you, you sent me this and it showed me it's too much bend. It's so much bend, I didn't even know. You said, this is the worst, still as defense we've had since 1988, and it's just statistically. It was numbers. You sent me this damn chap, GBT. thing, and I thought you was tripping.

We are rated the worst we have ever been rated as a defense since 1988. So am I overreacted? You are not overreacting. You would not overreacted. 23.9 points per game, 368 yards allowed per game, ranked 28th in NFL. Worst total defense ranking in franchise history

per multiple sources. Okay. So when I read that out loud, you are not free of it. When I read that out loud, you have valid points. I couldn't hear you. Could you run that one more time, Joe?

Okay. What was that? 2,025 still is defense so far. 23.9 points allowed per game, 368 yards per game, ranked 28th of NFL. Worst total defense ranking in franchise Henry history.

When was the last time we were ranked 28th, Joe? 1988. Hmm. And we gave up 23.2 points in the game at that. And that's right from chat, GBT, right? From chat, GBT. Okay. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. Here's the thing. We could savage this season. salvage. We could salvage the sea. But we have to knock off Baltimore twice.

We have to beat Buffalo. Miami is a win. Cleveland is a win. We go shut jaw down. Okay, see, there you go. Only problem is Buffalo, Baltimore, Baltimore, and Detroit.

Cleveland, Dolphins. See, there you're going to be in this. Look, you know, you got to play the games. And that's what I'm saying. With distiller, they better come out there

and we got to, we got to win. It's, it's not, it's individual week, but we can't look past nobody. Hold up, hold up,

Joe, hold up, Joe, hold up, Joe, hold up, Joe. You were saying that, like you were saying that, you wanted us to move. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying it, like,

we need to expect. You better be ready. You just can't be glazing over people, Debo. That's how you get, that's how you get. We ain't glazing over nothing. They bet not be glazing overnight. That's what you just said. You like this.

Oh, yeah, they'm guarantee. Listen here. You want me to keep this 100%? Keep it 100. I'm going to keep it 100. I'm going to keep it 150 with you right now. We're probably lucky if we split with Baltimore. We got Buffalo.

We need to win. It's not a must win, but we need to win. Because if we don't beat Buffalo, we have to beat Detroit. Like, that means we got to beat Baltimore. We got to beat Miami, and we have to beat Detroit. We got to get three in a world. We ain't got three in a row all year. Yeah.

It starts off Sunday. I think we get Buffalo Sunday We get Buffalo Sunday And I'm saying I'm saying this as Okay, because we already beat Cleveland I'm talking it as a win I'm saying this as how Miami has performed

Although they went out there And put their foot in Buffalo's neck That's what that's why I'm saying You never know what version of the teams you're going to get So we got to come out there and put belt the ass And to be honest, bro we're lucky, lucky if we get to 500. Buffalo could be a loss.

Baltimore could be a loss. Miami could be a win. Detroit could be a loss. And I'm hoping we can beat Cleveland. Although the way Miles has been playing, I'm scared. I respect the honesty. That's what I've looked for. Thank you.

Period. All right. I feel that. That's just what it would come down. And if that happens, everybody's gone. If it gets under it. And the only reason I would be like, okay, I'm hoping that we get playoffs. Don't even think about playoffs.

I'm hoping we can get the 500 because that way at least Mike can save a few jobs. A couple people will have to be sacrificed for the greater good or the rest. but then again that puts us back here where we're probably trying to fight for another 500 seasons instead of a championship so I'm like 6 in one half a dozen another yeah

I don't what you think we're going to do so say say if it you're saying bump the playoffs if we lose to Buffalo we have to win the next three we do we have to win the next three we won three but it was a buy in between so they had some rest this was straight three they had some rest bum bum bum we got to go straight three boom boom boom now physical games brough buffalo cook baltimore henry running the ball jackson

Derek Henry Lamar Jackson I hope his leg ain't fully healed by then I hate to say that I know I know I know he's been looking at Lamar I used to want to play against everybody

100% I pick you up On the way to the game Now you want somebody in there limping in Now you want them limping in I just want to win I just want to be able

to sit there and be like this is the Pittsburgh Steelers. We, at least, in the playoffs. We're going to see a lot this week at Buffalo. Dude, I don't lower my standard. I'm just trying to get there. You're just trying to get there. I'm now hoping for 500.

What, though? Damn, Debo, how the tables have turned. But look, we got Buffalo this weekend. We're going to be there in Pitt. So we're going to be there real time I'm going to be able to look and see Watch you why I'm let's let's just let's hope for good though Let's hope for good oh I'm always hoping for good

I'm always hoping for good Because I know it's Mason going to be is Mason's starting It's just so much stuff Do we know if Abrat starting? I don't I don't care I don't care I don't care who is there man The defense's going to have to do it bro The defense's going to have to do I don't care about the offense side of the ball no more

As long as they ain't turn the ball over And I don't, I don't, dude, I don't, I don't, I don't care, man. Like we, and even if they turn it over, we have to stop. We have to stop and we have to put out fires, bro. Look at, look, look, San Fran. They put out fires, bro. Yep. If we had did that and gave up only three on the, on the, on the turnovers, on the

three turnovers, they would only had, they'd had, what was it, 18 less points. Yeah. you're right sudden change so the defense did like you said if they don't school they don't win so the defense could really be to they got to step up especially making all they have to defense i keep like it's not about we ain't got no money to get nobody on offense so we are relying on our defense to make it happen and that's stuff they've been yep and we are statistically the worst defense that Pittsburgh Steelers

have had since 1988 bruh? Was you even born? I was born in 89. That's crazy. You wasn't even born in. You wasn't born in.

You was a thought swimming around in your dad's set. You know? So they was the worst defense since, what's that, 37 years?

Because I'm a smooth 36. Dang. It's just, dude, I try to do it. It's depressing, bruh. I'm hoping they're hearing all this, dude,

because motivation is something, bro. I love being told what I can't do. I'm hoping y'all hearing this. Dude, this is what you did. The fire. This what you did before they played the Colts. Desire that you have, bro. I'm just not, dude.

Ramsey. Yes. I love it, dude. That dude, won't it, bro. I seen wanting. He ain't turning nothing down. He giving you everything that he can give. you out there. I'm not letting up on

this quarterback. He got one foot in and I'm coming on him. I bet you if Ramsey's right there when Michaela was running out there on that screen he might not have finished that game. Yeah. I love Ramsey energy. He said he's keeping energy

he says the tone. And now we got Herbic to SWAT. Everybody just got to come out that thing in ball. Can't get pushed back, Debo. We have to establish a line of scrimmage. again scheme a scheme dude what we're doing

what they're assigned to have to do yeah sometimes they're out of position the position that they got to be in ain't the one they should be in but then it's the same time too Debo the simple shit punch and widen

you have to reroute number two like dude just listen to the interviews dude McQueen he's like yo we know what's happening and they still doing they're still getting it done. We know what's coming.

They still getting it. What is that telling you? We know it. We see it. We ain't stopping it. It still ain't getting done. Either somebody ain't getting it done or they ain't in position to get it done. Either way it go, it ain't getting done.

But he's like, yo, we know it is coming and we can't stop it. Hopefully he did. Like, that was actually like on something. interview where he said this you know how frustrated you got to be to say that i know it no i'm saying as a player right now i don't i don't care i can say whatever i want to say like dude i thought we were bad when we were ranked five when i played with the stillers dude we would talk to each other like bro we're trashed we were one one five two one one Dude, we're 28th right now.

I don't even think I've ever played on the defense ranked that low. No, me either. And you play for the brown. Yeah, I did. And our, fucking, and our defense was nice as hell. The Brown's defense, when I was there, nice as hell, Debo. Yeah, disrespectful. Our offense needed to pick up some.

You need to pick up some. You know what I'm saying? That's why I had a bunch of quarterbacks when I was here. but that defense always was smacking ass all the time. Me, T.J. De Quayle Jackson. You know what I'm saying? Gibson.

You know what I'm saying? All cruelly. Okay. So now I'm over here at the defense that the still is the Browns defense. Dude, I hope our offense ain't ranked higher than our defense. Oh, they have to be. They can't be rained up. Oh, well, shit.

I would say our offense probably like 25 then. I'm not bro, just thinking about it. Yeah, it's making you mad. Right. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, we got to do some, bro.

We got to do some. We got to get it done. Like. But every time I, you, you just, You can't talk about the offense at all. I know the defense got to do better. I know the defense got to do better. But it's a team game.

The office is trashed. The coordinator is trash. We already know this, bro. No, but we got to talk. You got, you got, you got Aaron Rogers. Even though he's old, you got him looking regular. We do got him. You got Aaron Rogers looking regular.

Stop playing. That's not his bad. It could be the vanilla. Yeah, you're right, the vanilla play caller. Stop, dude. Look, Debo, I'm... Listen, man. We're going to be there.

We're going to be there in Pittsburgh. Matter of fact, we're going to be there. We're going to see. I'm there for motivation. And look here, look here. We're doing a ticket giveaway, too. Okay? We're doing a ticket giveaway.

Two. Sessa, two. Okay. For you guys. to come see us play I want to say beat I want to say beat

I want to see us take on play take on the Buffalo Bills 4 o'clock okay we go announce it

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All right. Now Thanksgiving Around the corner You see Got a full slate of games, baby You got Green Bay in Detroit Great ball

You got Kansas City and Dallas And you got Cincinnati and Baltimore I'm hoping Cincinnati could I'm praying I don't Because you know Joe Burrow come back too They got

Joe Burrow back. I got your world back for Thanksgiving. Hey. So it's going to be a good game. Yeah, but they defense can't stop a nose bleed, man. And Derek Henry going to run over them. I just feel so sorry for him, bad for him. But I still rooting for you because we need you to beat Baltimore so we can get back.

Thank you. Appreciate you. You got them good slated games. They're going to catch them. Good slated games for Thanksgiving. Listen. I'm gonna get off here right now because I keep thinking about

we're having to play. Yes. This Sunday. Be ready. This is what we go do. We go thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe

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