Club Shay Shay - Deon Cole Part 1

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

Deon Cole sits down with Shannon Sharpe at Club Shay Shay for a wide-ranging conversation full of wild stories and celebrity encounters. Deon kicks things off by asking Shannon if his infamous Instagram Live video was staged, setting the tone for the comedic and candid interview that follows. Deon dives into his career highlights, starting with his latest Netflix special and the unforgettable moment when Paul McCartney attended one of his shows and even joined him on stage. Things took a crazy turn when Deon smoked a joint with Paul, which led to what he describes as the worst performance of his comedy career. Deon goes on to share other star-studded experiences of appreciation for his comedy, from visiting the White House and meeting Christian Bale, to encounters with Meryl Streep and Eddie Murphy. In one of the episode's wildest stories, Deon recalls the time a man rushed the stage during one of his performances and swung at him, only for Deon to punch him back with the microphone still in his hand. Deon lightens the mood by talking about his experiences with weed, hilariously breaking down the difference between smoking with White people and Black people. He even shares how he was once such a terrible drug dealer that he ended up painting a house to settle a debt and how a prostitute gave him money for his first comedy headshots. Deon reveals why he quit smoking weed for 13 years and reflects on conspiracy theories, police brutality, and his proposed solution for societal issues. He also opens up about masking personal pain with humor, dedicating a special to his late mother in Brooklyn on the one-year anniversary of her passing. When the conversation turns to dating, Deon doesn’t hold back. He describes the dating scene as a mess, admits that he wouldn’t leave a woman who cheated on him, and hilariously claims all the baddest women are found in health food stores. He uses Halle Berry as an example of how difficult it can be to date someone incredibly famous, and shares his thoughts on the importance of a partner bringing peace rather than money. Deon gets real about his celebrity dating experiences, including a time when Stevie Wonder stole his girl and made him take a cab home while she stayed with Stevie. Deon jokes that even President Obama knows about Stevie Wonder's reputation for stealing women. He also recalls dating one of Shaquille O'Neal's exes and admits he felt traumatized trying to "fill Shaq’s shoes." #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

That Stevie Wonder took your girl? Yo, true story. Come on, Dion! He got you! Man, Stevie got everybody. Stevie with us. been grinding all my life, all my life, been grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle paid the price, want a slice, got you rolling dice, that's why, all my life, I been grinding all my life. Hello, welcome to another episode of Club CheChe.

I am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor of Club CheChe. Today we're at Alley Lounge on 66 at Resorts World, Las Vegas. The guy that's stopping by for conversation and a drink today is an actor, writer, producer, and one of the great standups of his generation. He has a successful 20 plus year career in TV, film, and comedy.

He's a 10 time NAACP Image Award winner. He's a three time Emmy nominee. He's a three time Writers Guild of America nominee. He's a two time Screen Actors Guild nominee. The one, the only, Mr. Old Spice himself, Dion Cole. the three-time Writers Guild of America nominee. He's a two-time Screen Actors Guild War nominee. The one, the only, Mr. Old Spice himself, Dion Cole. Man, that was great. How was that intro?

That was great. Yo. I appreciate that, man. Thanks for stopping by. I know you're busy, but I always like to thank my guests for stopping by, because I know they have busy schedules. And to give me a few moments of their time, I greatly appreciate that, bro.

Thank you for your time, man. And before we start anything, I just wanted to ask you real quick, and this is what the people want to know. Lord have mercy. Did you set that video up? Did you set that up? Did you set that up?

The thing is, Dion, what I don't get people, people's like, well, you did that for clout. So you really tell me I'm willing to risk my good name, my reputation. Thank you. I work for Disney. Yeah. Disney. Risk that, my reputation, embarrass my my family and all the potential monetary ramifications

that comes along with it. For what? No, I get it. And just I'm just saying people were saying that they was out there like, maybe he did that because they was like he was trying to sell product or that he was trying to tell people trying to prove that he wasn't just the one thing I know about people once they've made their mind up on something you're not getting them off that yeah so me trying to you can't prove somebody how do you prove or disprove something when someone has

already made up their mind it's kind of like you know no matter what people say about President Trump they're gonna have their supporters that believe him. No matter what people say about Kamala Harris, VP, people are going to believe it. So why should I spend any time trying to defend what I already know to be true? There it is. That's what's up, man. That's where I am on that. Good for you, brother.

I appreciate that. You know, I have my own cognac. Anytime I have a guest buy, and I don't know if you drink or anything. I know you were downstairs having a. Yeah, I, you know what? I would have a drink, but I was drinking recently and I'm gonna take a sip cause I definitely wanted to taste. Okay. But I'm not gonna drink the whole thing.

No, no, I don't expect you to drink the whole thing. I want to taste it, yes. To your career, past and future. Hey, and likewise. Appreciate you, bro. Mm-hmm. That's good. We gonna see you in your home. to your career, past, and future. Hey, and likewise. Appreciate you, bro. Mm-hmm. That's good. We're gonna send you home with a bottle.

Ooh, yeah, send me home with a bottle. Hey, sexy right there, yes sir. We're gonna talk about your Netflix special, Okay, Mister, it's been unbelievable. But Paul McCartney, you're doing a show. And then all of a sudden, he hops on stage. Now, the last time somebody was doing it was talking, and somebody hopped on stage.

It didn't go well. It didn't go well. So what were you thinking when he came on stage? So the whole thing was I was, you know, I'm working on, I knew my special was coming out. So I mean, it had just came out. So I was working on new material. I mean, you know, I'm working on, I knew my special was coming out, so I mean, it had just came out, so I was working on new material, I mean, instantly. To me, when specials come out,

a lot of people throw parties, I'm working. You know what I mean? And so I walk in the comedy club, and everybody looking at me like they saw a ghost. They like this, yo, Paul McCartney's here to see you. And I was like this, Paul who? And they was like, McCartney. I'm like, who's that?

And they was like, Paul McCartney. I'm like. Beatles Paul McCartney. I'm like, why is he here? And they was like, to see you. I'm like, really? I said, cool bullshit. And I was like, bring him up here.

Because I was in the green room. And he came up there. So you had never met him before? No. He was like this, hey, man, how are you? I think you're hilarious, man. Yeah. And I was just like, yo.

So had that ever happened to you before? Someone like famous, or I'm talking about famous, famous, wanted to meet you before you actually went on stage? Yeah. It's been times where people have seen me, man, and it blew me away. Like, one time I was on this show a long time ago called Angie Tribeca. actually went on stage? Yeah, it's been times where people have seen me, man, and it blew me away. Like, one time I was on this show a long time ago

called Angie Tribeca. And we was doing something at the White House when I was at Black-ish. OK, yeah. We was doing something there. And Christian Bale was there. And he grabbed me and was like, you are so hilarious. And I just was like, wow, Batman.

That's it. Batman told me I was hilarious. Batman. So we all so hilarious. So yeah, every time I'm running into somebody huge like that, and they know me, it blows my mind. I ran into Mille Streep one time, and she was like, man, I love what you do. And when you get these moments, man, it validates the naysayers that have always hated on you.

Or it puts you in perspective, because you would be trying to appease these people knowing that these great icons love what you do. And then you go, OK, you know, I don't even care what y'all talking about. You know what I mean? Happened with Eddie Murphy. And it's just meeting these people and it validates you you know?

Did you know Paul McCartney was such a big fan of yours? I had no idea no. So this is what happened from what I hear this is what the story that he was saying that they were saying is that he was coming from rehearsal he's got a world tour going on starting in Africa real soon like I think in another month or whatever and he's coming from rehearsal, he's driving down Melrose, and he saw my name on the marquee, and was like, that guy's funny.

I was like, man, let's go see him. Wow. And he came in, we talked, and he lit a joint, and we smoked it, and yeah. Damn! Yeah. From never meeting the guy, didn't even know he was a fan of yours,

till y'all blowin' in the back? He came upstairs, and he was a fan of yours. So y'all blowing in the back. He came upstairs and he was like this, hey man, I love your work, can I partake? And I was like, sure. And then he was like this, so yeah man, how long you been doing standup? And I was like. And I'm talking to him and he was like, yeah, yeah.

He was like, you wanna hit it? Now I haven't smoked weed in 13 years, right? And I told him that and I said, but I am going to smoke today. It's Paul McCartney. How do you say? It's Paul McCartney. How do you say no to Paul McCartney?

Smoked that shit and we sat there, smoked, laughed, had a good time. He went downstairs and I went on stage and bombed the whole night. Like the worst show I ever had in my life. Was it good weed? Was it that snoot weed? It was good weed.

I couldn't even, I bombed the whole night. Like. All I could hear, I would do a joke with nobody laugh. All I heard was him go. Oh. Laughing at me, bombing. He said you bombed him. He said you bombed. He said it, yeah.

No, I was on that motherfucker like, whose birthday it is? Because I had my material. I went to birthdays. So where the Pisces? When you saw him walking on stage, did you think anything? Has anybody ever approached you on stage? No, so this is what it was. I was bombing so bad that I,

because I never wanted to tell them why I was bombing. And then I finally told them I was high, and I was like, but I'll tell you why later. Did the whole set for a whole hour, and then I was like, I'm gonna show you why this shit was horrible. And I was like, I'm gonna bring my mother, the guy

who was smoking with us. Oh my goodness. And he came up there. Right. Yo, I brought him up there. And he said it's my fault. He didn't admit it, but I said it was his fault. And it was.

I was like, God damn, I wasn't ready for that. Throughout your career, has anyone ever come up on stage when you were like, I don't know if you like, call people out, you put the light on them, you just go in on them. Has anybody ever come on stage stage when you like I don't know if you like call people out you put the light on them You just go in on them has anybody ever come on stage and approach you do yeah, yeah, me and Mike Epps did a show one day things in South Carolina's do walked on the stage and I was like dude. You can't be coming up here. He was like no no I'm just hoping to talk to you I'm gonna talk to you and I and I seem kind of squaring up with me

And I thought it was a cordless mic and I'm hoping to talk to you. And I see him kind of squaring up with me. And I had to, it was a cordless mic. And I was like, dude, get off the fucking stage. And he was like, there's no, no. And he started walking up on me. He swung, I ducked, and I was like, bop! And the mic was like, whoo! And the mic went out and he fell back.

And Mike else was like, yeah! Wow! Yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah. So what brought that on? Were you on him? Were you set? Did you say anything to him? Did you say anything to his woman?

No, he just came on stage and was just like, yo, he kept going, man, I got a joke for you. He kept going, I got a joke for you. And I was like this, nah. He was saying that from the audience. And then he got on stage and he was like, nah, nah, I got a joke for you, come here, come here. But he was talking to me like, he was gonna try got on stage and he was like, no, I got a joke for you Come here. Come here, but he was talking to me like right. He was gonna drunk. He was high

I don't know what he was. You were trying to find out though. No, and I waited I was waiting on I knew he was about to You know, you're gonna try something. I knew it cuz you know, he had that lean Right, you know that little sneaky shit. Right. Yeah, and I had to like put the Foo Fops on that motherfucker So let me ask you this. Is there a difference, and you say you haven't smoked weed in 13 years and you just smoked a couple of weeks ago with Paul McCartney. Is there a difference between smoking weed with a black person smoking weed with a white person? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think White people can't shut the fuck up. That That's the way they get how they start talking. You'd be like, dude, I would have never got high with you

if I know your ass is on top. You ruined my high, bro. They'd be talking their ass off. You'd be like, shut the fuck up, dog. I don't even know what you talking about right now. You know, black folks, you get high. Black folks, y'all both sit there for two hours and won't say shit and just be chilling

till the high go down and you go roll another one. But you sold weed, right? Were you like smoking in the Prada? Like, did you get high off your own supply? I told you that. I just said I would. Now you know you can't smoke weed and sell weed. This dude had me and my boy Dave, he had us sell a weed for him and we smoked up all the

weed and this motherfucker made us paint his house. How much weed did y'all smoke? We smoked a lot of that shit. Y'all didn't sell anything? He was an ill-ass drug dealer too, we had to do it though. I ain't never painted in my life, but we painted that motherfucker. That motherfucker was sharp too. We...

Edges, gutters, we had all that shit. That motherfucker would have killed us. So what's your craziest story of selling weed? Because clearly you weren't very good at it. No, I wasn't good at it at all. Like, I think, man... You know what my boy used to do? How I even got off into, like, even trying to sell this shit, my boy used to do? How I even got off into like even trying to sell this shit,

my boy used to always come over my house right and hit me like, hey man, look, I got a 16th or whatever. I don't want to drive with it. Can I leave it here? And I'd be like this, yeah, yeah, you can leave it here. And he'll leave and I'll smoke that shit up and he'll come back two days later and be like, can I get that?

And I'd be like, ah, I got money for you. We smoked it. He go, okay, cool. And then he'd be like, I got another 16, can I leave it here so I won't have to drive with it. And I was like, oh yeah. Not knowing that this was my business. You realize you a customer, okay.

I realized it. I realized it. I was like, that wasn't an accident. I thought I was looking out for him and shit. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can leave that there, yeah, yeah. I was like this, what am I doing? Then I started doing it to motherfuckers

and that shit didn't work out as well. They wouldn't pay me and shit and I was too nice. Hold on, you were selling weed on credit? Yeah, on credit. I would give people credit, dude. I was terrible, man. I remember they tried to, I remember selling weed. I was terrible. man. I remember they tried to, I remember selling weed, I was terrible.

I remember Don Juan, like he's a lot of pimps in Chicago. I remember they tried to get me a prostitute one time to make money to help me with my hair shots. Like in the comedy biz, because I ain't have no money for my hair shots. And they gave me this chick named Darlene, but I didn't have the balls to like pimp her or nothing like that.

I would just tell her. You kept her for yourself? No, I just, I would tell her. No. No. I didn't keep her for myself. Now you know, I'm thinking your weed, you wasn't selling the weed like he's for you,

so you wouldn't do that. I would just tell her, I'd be like, you know, whatever you can loan me, whatever you can loan me, I'll pay you back. And she gave me money for my hair shots. And I went, my first comedy hair shots came from her. And yeah, I would like, like go pick her up. Like she would ask me to pick her up places.

And I'd pick her up and she'd be like, here, put this on your hair shots. And she would just be nice like that. But I'll be like, nah, I don't want her up and she'd be like, here, put this on your hair shots. And she would just be nice like that, but I'd be like, no, I don't want that. And she'd be like, no, here, here. I don't want that. I don't really want this, but I had to get my hair shots.

Like, yeah, it was crazy. I mean, once you made it, did you reach back out to Darlene? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I gave her some money, yeah. I gave her some money, but I gave it to her daughter, because I didn't see her. I gave it to her daughter, I gave her the money and stuff to give back to her, whatever.

But yeah, I gave her like, what did I give her, like 250? Gave her $250, and she gave me like 50 for the head shots. She would give me like $10 here, $10 there, until I got my, because I had no money. I was super broke, yeah, yeah, definitely. So, you know, we did our little odd jobs in Chicago, selling weed and, you know, picking up prostitutes. You know, the regular stuff, you know.

What made you, you say you partake for the first time in 13 years with Paul McCartney. What made you stop smoking weed? Man, I was overthinking. And see, when I stopped smoking weed, we didn't have all these labels. It had them. Yeah. Okay. It didn't have all these clarifications. It was just weed. It was just weed. And you got whatever you got when you got it. If you was paranoid, god damn it, you was paranoid. If you were sleepy, you were sleepy. You ain't know what you got. So I would get that man, I would overthink so much man, I'd be like, oh god, and I just

like, I just had to stop and I just had to go to another level with stuff, you know what I mean? I was lazy, wouldn't do nothing, it was terrible. And so I just quit. Now I really wanted to start back up, but I never did because it has so many clarifications on it now. Now you got, if you want to eat, if you want to sleep, if you want to have a good time, you know,

they have different strands for everything. And they didn't have that back in the day or whatever, you know. Well, talking to Kat, Kat said like, when you like do your job, it's not, you're not used to sleeping till like six or seven o'clock in the afternoon because you don't start working till nine.30, till the clock at night. And do you work until one, two in the morning? You eat and carry it on, that's your normal days.

Like, raw, I mean, how do you trick your body to say this is normal when for the last 25, 30 years, you've been doing something one way? It ain't normal, it ain't normal at all. Like you just, you just, and man, one, two o'clock in the morning is when you first get into the club, to be honest with you, you know? It was a big transition for me to, to go from doing stand-up to like having a job job, like, because I would be going

to bed at like five in the morning. But yeah, you had to trick yourself all the time. And I think a lot of comics drink the smoke to keep up with that. You know what I mean? Yeah, because I remember back in the day, I used to wake up at like four, five o'clock. In the afternoon? Yeah, that was regular. That was regular hours. I'd go to bed at like six, wake up at five. That's a good 11 hours.

Yeah, for sure. For sure. But if you like, you say you were an over-thinker, and that like we just added to that over-thinking. Yeah, it was terrible. if you like, you say you are over thinker and that like we just added to that overthinking. Yeah, it was terrible. It's like if you paranoid, you're gonna really like, man, I wonder if they really put man on the table. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, I wonder if cars are really gonna be able to. But yo, it used to be like that, but for some reason that helped my stand up. Really? You know, yeah, because I already was overthinking. Then when I smoked, I really overthought. Then when I started to stand-up and was smoking,

it was like a match in heaven, you know? Because I always thought stand-up was like, you know, people being silly and goofy. I didn't really know stand-up was also, you know, just therapeutic and just things that's on your mind or whatever at the time. I didn't really know stand-up was also, you know, just therapeutic and just things that's on your mind or whatever at the time. I didn't know that, you know. And then when I found out that I could just really

be thought-provoking and be a stand-up, you know, I was like, yeah, I'll try it. I'll do it. Do you believe in conspiracy theories? Do I believe in them? Yeah. Uh, no, not really. You did when you was high though.

It's just... You might, I would overthink that shit though, man. I would break it down. I deal with simplicity, everything. I don't care what it is. It's simplicity. If it's the simplest thing, if we can break it down to that,

then that's what it is, you know? Like with a lot of wars going on, I just feel like, why can't they just work that out? And then it's over with. I don't understand why they keep fighting, war at the, I don't understand it like that. But I just think if people just sit down and work that out, then they should be able to move forward.

Figure that resolve the issues. But it's not that simple. Not that simple. A lot of these people have been fighting for resolve the issues. But it's not that simple. Not that simple. A lot of these people been fighting for thousands of years. But why though? It's kind of like, you know what it is sometimes Deon, like you around somebody and they don't like somebody and you don't like that person for like,

why I don't like that person? Just cause you don't like them. It's like, just because we've been fighting for a thousand years, that doesn't mean we can't stop fighting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That we can't get along. Somebody needs to be able to break the cycle and say, well, you know what? What are we actually fighting for a thousand years, that doesn't mean we can't stop fighting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can't get along. Somebody needs to be able to break the cycle and say, you know what, what are we actually fighting for? Yeah, it's like that's the simplicity that I deal with on an everyday basis.

What are we fighting for? Why are we fighting? Why can't we just have peace? Instead of being right, let's have peace over being right and, you know, working it out, right? I try to think simple like that, but effective. You know? Well, because a lot of times people want to be right instead of arguing for right. Right, exactly, and that's true too, you know? But again, simplicity, like police brutality and stuff.

I looked up, you know, it's 70% police in the country, that people that are police officers, 70% police in the country that people that are police officers, 70% are white. Did you know that? Yeah. 70% of them white. I feel like they should have one black cop and one white cop in every car. Because that would help out the situations

as far as like police brutality and stuff like that, right? Does that make sense? It makes sense, but sometimes man man, it's kind of like, if you think about it, it's like an animal. Sometimes you get a good dog and you get a bad dog. And if the bad dog bites, sometimes the good dog will join in. But you don't think that if a police,

if like two white cops pull over- It's that power. I don't necessarily believe it's the black and the white. I think it's the power that comes along with being a police officer. I get that, but I also think race has something to do with it too, because if you have two white cops and they pull you over, yeah, they're gonna be

on their white cop shit. But if they got a white cop and a black cop in the car, I'm quite sure that brother gonna be like, like you ain't gonna be able to go over there and talk to him like that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying in all incidents, in all incidents, like I'm not saying that. I'm saying like-

I think that might be a little bit too simplistic. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I understand the power, but there are some black cops that are cool. Yeah, there's some white cops that are cool. There's some white cops that are cool. Yeah, and I don't want people to like, but it's all in it, yeah.

Yeah, everybody ain't know no power trip is what I'm saying. You know what I mean? They all are, but they not all like that. But I just think the situation would be better if you had one black cop and one white cop per car, regardless. You know what I'm saying?

Well, I'm gonna be a sheep. I ain't gonna give you no chance to be on no power trip. Even if you're on a power trip. Yes, sir, no, sir. Yes, ma'am, no, ma'am. Yes, how are you today? How many times have you been pulled over and you looked in the window

and you was like, God damn, two white cops. Or you get pulled over and you go, alright, they got some brothers, okay. I feel a little better when I see my heart just start beating fast. Okay, how soon can I get him to his car, to my car, back to his car and I'm driving on my way. That's all I'm thinking.

No, no, absolutely. I'm just saying, in my spirit, I feel my whole goal is to get home at the end of the day. Whatever they want me to do, I'm gonna saying, in my spirit, I feel, my whole goal is to get home at the end of the day. At the end of the day. Whatever they want me to do, I'ma do it. But deep down inside, I feel a little better if I see some brothers get out there, motherfuckers.

I'm like this, all right, cool, I hope they saw Def Jam. You know what I mean? I hope they saw me like this. And they recognize who I am. Yeah, yeah, I got more of a chance of them knowing me than the white cops. That's all I'm saying. Was the Paul McCartney, when you bombed that show,

was that the worst you had ever bombed? That was probably in my top five. Because obviously everybody bombs when they start out. Yeah, yeah. No, this was because I haven't smoked in 13 years. I did gummies, but I ain't like... But why, in that situation, did you feel like, you was like, Paul, no, I'm getting ready to do a show.

We'll do it afterwards. Why not take that approach? I didn't think Paul was gonna stay the whole goddamn show, to be honest with you. I just was like, man, this is a great moment. I wasn't even thinking about the show like that. And I felt like I'm not gonna inhale too much... So I can do my show. So I was like, cool, but I guess I did. I got caught up in the moment. But no, it was like, I put it like this,

I ain't gonna say I bombed profusely. It wasn't like that. And the people that was in the audience, they laughed. They had a good time. It just wasn't what I was used to. You know what I mean? But you know, the performance that you've set, the standard that you set for yourself, and stay live, they had a good time. It just wasn't what I was used to. Right. You know what I mean? But you know. Yeah, I know. The performance that you set, the standard that you set for yourself, with Dion Cole, it wasn't up to that.

It was not that at all. Your special, Netflix, OK, Mister. How you feeling about it? You like it? Man, people are really, really excited. This has been like a really good ride on this one. You know, the specials I've done before the first time I did my cohort, I mean, a cohort is special, they didn't even have like the top 10 on on on on a site, right? It was just up and people saw it.

Right. I really wasn't in the mind frame to do promotions or really do nothing because of how deep the whole situation was for me to film that a year later on the day she passed. That bothered me. So I just put that out there and, you know, just to show people that we still gotta perform even under the conditions.

So you never know what the comic is going through. Give Comic Love, because he got to put away his differences. And I sat up and did a whole hour in front of y'all, which you were not even knowing that this is the anniversary death of my mom, whatever. So I really wasn't there. This, I was able to, like, really get back to the funny, really be like, OK, like, promote and put it out.

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Reward expires at contest lock on 9524. See terms at draftkings.com slash DFS. You said that a lot of times people don't realize what a comic is going through. And although he's making his audience laugh, he might be dying inside. Yeah. When you talk about writing Charlene's story,

which is your mom doing the time, your mom had just, it's the one year anniversary of your mom passing. Did you enjoy it, knowing what you were going through and what you were dealing with? Did you get an opportunity to enjoy it? Not really, cause it almost was like I was cornered into doing that.

I turned it down. It was crazy. So when you do these specials, right, you find a city that you, that really love. That really rock with you. That really rock with you. And that's where you go shoot your special, right? And so during that time, I was, I had did a bunch of cities and I was waiting on Netflix to come back to me

and ask me, I mean, tell me when they want to shoot. But I had to keep touring, I kept doing dates, and I really didn't have too many cities left over. I had like a couple cities left over. It was like Chicago, New York, I think it was a couple other cities, right? And so they was like, man, you should shoot in New York. And I was like, well, New York, no, I'm from Chicago, but I was like, New York comics, like you gotta be from New York to shoot in New York. And I was like, well, New York, no, I'm from Chicago, but I was like,

New York comics, like, you gotta be from New York to shoot in New York, you know what I mean? Or have some kind of affiliation with them. Some kind of tie-kid. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I was like, I really didn't want to do that too much. But then they was like, man, all the other venues are taking up places. And I was like, well, New York dude, they fuck with me.

You know what I mean? I just, I don't know, we're part of New York. And they was like, well, New York dude, they fuck with me. You know what I mean? I just, I don't know, we're part of New York and they was like, Brooklyn. And I was like, aw shit. And I was like, yeah, Brooklyn fuck with me. But I don't know, because you don't know what Brooklyn you gonna get. You know what I mean?

I don't know if I was gonna get Gentrified Brooklyn, Biggie Brooklyn, Righteous Brooklyn. I didn't know what I was gonna get. So when we did it, everybody came out. You know what I mean? And it was just, I didn't know what I was gonna get. So when we did it, you know, everybody came out, you know what I mean? And it was just, I was kind of nervous about doing it. And on an anniversary, I just was feeling really, really, really terrible about doing that,

about shooting it. And the only day that they had open was the day that she... Was that day. ...was that day. And I was just like... I turned it down at first, and then I was like, my mind kept going, you know what, take this day and celebrate her, and actually change the name of your special

and dedicate it to her, because I had a whole nother name. And so at the last moment, I changed it to Charlene's boy and dedicated the whole thing to her because that was the date that was available. You know, a lot of times, Dion is that, in situations I always think about, what would my grandmother want me to do in that situation?

And she would always say, son, hey, ain't nothing you can do for me now. You need to go take care of what you need to take care of. And then, cause I'm still gonna be here. What would your mom would have said? What do you think she would have wanted you to do? I think my mother always just wanted me to be happy. We were so poor in Chicago, y'all.

We anyhow like a refrigerator. We would just put our food on the windowsill, because that's where the snow was, right? On some real shit. That's how we kept our food cold. Extension cord from neighbor's house, and we had a space heater. So she was, I was happy, not even really knowing

that we was poor, but I was happy. And she always was like, I just want you to be happy. And our passing was like, and I'm still affected by it like every day, you know, but, cause I'm the only child. And I know brothers and sisters, and that's who I've been with my whole entire life, you know. But I remember my aunt told me this, cause I wasn't eating or doing nothing, you know.

And my aunt was like, well, if you had the chance to bring her back here, would you? And I was like, well, if you had a chance to bring her back here, would you? And I was like, well, yeah. She was like, why? Why would you bring her back here? With war and diseases and all that. And this was like during like the pandemic. She was like, would you bring her back here?

And I just cried, man, and I was like, I, I, I, it would be selfish for me to bring her back here. And I was just like, I, no. And it killed me inside to even think like that. But I, I almost felt at peace while I was like, yeah, where I was like, yeah, you know, like, yeah, I guess so, you know? Because my mother, she had, she had like diabetes too, whatever, but she had it under control, right?

When she passed, it was out of the clear blue. Out of the clear blue, she had it under control and everything. But yeah, that really affected me, while I was like, would I bring her back here if I had the power? Only for selfish reasons. And then what? Yeah. Am I enough for her to come back to and deal with the rest of the world and bills and cars

breaking down or buying people and how they feel and their pain. Am I enough to keep compete with this? And I just I let it go. And you know, it's, it's, it's something that I reflect on when I when I when I miss her. And that helps, you know, and so, when I miss her and that helps, you know, and so, yeah, it's, yeah, man. How are you now with it? It's been some time has passed. You realize that she's not coming back. You shot the special. You've moved on, done just depends on what's happening. Like anything good happen to me, I be feeling bad. I mean, I feel sad because I can't like share it. So I remember I did the color purple.

I cried that whole the color purple. I cried that whole movie, man. My mother loved that movie. And to be in that movie, I cried the whole time. Even leaving the set, I cried every day. And people kept wondering what was wrong with me. And I just couldn't pull it together, because I was so sad.

Even at the premiere, I was crying on the red carpet. I just want her to see these things. And people I say shit like, oh, she's here in spirit. And they say, yeah, I get all of that. I get all of that. I want her here. I want her next to me. I want to lay up under her.

You know what I mean? Like I always did. You know, like, anytime I went home, you know, even to her passing, she would lay on her side, and I'd, like, lay up under her. You know what I mean? It's just one groove right up under her that I would lay at. And everything was OK?

Everything is okay. And for that to be gone, it's like, you know, you search for that groove, and you ain't gonna find it. I don't care how many women you sleep with, I don't care who you be with, you never gonna find that groove, and you gotta live with it.

You talked a lot about dating on your special. you're never gonna find that groove. And you gotta live with it. You talked a lot about dating on your special. How's the dating scene for Dion? It is a mess. It's a mess. It's a mess. It's a mess. It's a mess. Why is it a mess?

It's a mess. It's, you just don't know what, you don't know what you're getting or what you're doing. It's like, you just, I don't, I don't know what's, I don't know what you're getting or what you're doing. It's like you just, I don't know what to do nowadays. You know, we in a world of, you know, people swiping. You know, if you don't like what I'm saying, you don't have to deal with me, you can swipe. And there's eight, nine other guys waiting on you.

You know what I mean? It's no hustling bustles to be with me. And then when you get somebody, you don't know what they really there for. You don't know what they really into you about. Are you trying to invest time to find out what they're there for or are you? Well, me personally, I'd rather have,

and I was discussing this in my special, whatever, is that, you know, I just would like to have like a friend that's cool and somebody that I can hang with because if the relationship don't work out, at least I ain't wasting my time. Well damn! You still gotta invest some time, D.I. No, no, I'm saying that, I'm saying I'd rather be with somebody that I'm cool with, that we cool, that we kick kick it and we do everything together You know what I mean? We do everything together and so the more we do that the more time I'm spending with you

Yeah, you'll get closer and closer and get attacked I'm getting closer and closer but how about the relationship and all the sex and how it's fucking gonna work out Then I ain't just leave her and she ain't leave me and we just wasted our time Being with each other trying to work it out and it didn't work out, then I ain't just leave her. And she ain't leave me and we just wasted our time being with each other, trying to work it out and it didn't work out. At least we still cool. We still can go watch a movie.

Because that's what we got. No, hell no. No, we can. No, you can't. I'm telling you, a woman can, look, let me tell you something. A woman can cheat on me and I probably wouldn't leave her. Depending on, depending on depending on

Depending on the value of the woman Would you would you the depending on the value of a woman, like, and depending on the situation, I wouldn't just up and leave a woman like that. If she, like, like if she cheated on me, right, and I was like this, and the reason is, I got something to do with it. And if I really deep in, dug deep inside and felt like it was something that I had something to do with, I probably wouldn't just up and leave her like that. Like, I just wouldn't.

I would figure out the situation, figure out how it happened. If I wanted to be real petty, and the value, look, the value of this woman, how about she run a Fortune 500 goddamn company, right? And I'm not gonna let a little dick get between, well... Yeah, even the computer thing, they got you, I don't mind. Computer like preach, that's what the people say. I'm not gonna let a little dick get between us

and our finances and what we doing. Now, if you ain't doing shit and you get some dick, bye bye, motherfucker, I'm out. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? I do, I do. The value of the woman. I do. And women do the same thing, bye, motherfucker, I'm out. You get what I'm saying? The value of the woman. I do, I do. And women do the same thing. Like, if they had a successful guy or whatever,

they gonna tolerate a little bit more than what they do with some deadbeat motherfucker. And I'm the same way with women. I'm like this, yo, if you cheat on me and you got a 500 company, I'll just be like, just don't do that again. You don't do it. Yeah.

Yeah, I think there's some truth to what you're saying. It used to be a time where women would only have a sexual relationship if they felt something for the guy. Absolutely. In order for them to step outside of a relationship that they're in, they really had to feel something for that guy.

If they're married, I don't care if they're a fiance or whatever the case may be. But in today's, these women have a lot of the mindset like a guy. They'll sleep with a guy and think nothing about that guy and go sleep with that guy. They have adopted a man's mindset because they see, well, man's doing it. Why can't I do it? Absolutely. And who says they can't? And so therefore, what you're going to do? Absolutely, and who says they can't? They do it.

And so therefore, what you gonna do? You gonna let your emotions keep you broke? Because that's what you could do. Your emotions that keep you broke out here, brother. What's her job in that Fortune 500 company? What's her job? Is she the CEO, the CFO, the VP? She the CEO of this boy, and she is the top dog.

Don't do it again. That's what I'm gonna tell her. You know that hurts your boy, right? You got one of them? You got one of them? You know that hurt. That hurt right there, doctor. You got one of them?

So, what blessing is this? Where do you think is the best place to meet women? The gym, the grocery store, church, the gym? Man. The last place should be the gym. No, not the gym, none of that. I'm gonna tell you where all the baddies at. Where?

Health food stores. Man, them bougie women, I can't afford them up in there. No, no, you just ain't, you ain't working. You see, you walking in there, y'all all walking in there the same. Y'all all doing this. And I'm walking in there like this. And I'm chilling.

And I go in there and be like this, what's calories? And they'll be like, what? Oh, come on, man. Come on, Dion. You got to act like you don't know. And then they come help you. So you going into my, oh, what is Black Seed? I'll be like this, what's Black Seed?

And they'll be like this, oh, let me tell you. Yeah, and I'll be like, man, look at me. I'm frail. I'm just trying to get my, you know. Oh, I got what you need. See, it's simplicity how you got to use, man. You got to use your mind. You know, I had to joke about this a long time ago. Now, I ain't trying to do material or whatever,

but I'm telling you the factual stuff. I remember I used to go to a grocery store, look in a woman's cart, see what she got in there? Think about what she need and then post up in that aisle and wait for her to come get it. Boy, that's a good one there. I would walk by and I'd be like this. You look at that. she got in there, think about what she need and then post up in that aisle and wait for her to come get it. But that's a good one there. I would walk by and I'd be like this.

You'd look at like, okay. I'd be like, she got hot dogs, she gonna need buns. And I'll go to the bun section that just stand there and I'd look for buns. And then she'll come get the buns and I'd be like, oh, hey. Hey, I see you again. I was, hey, hey, I see you needed some buns.

She's here. Hey. Can't see you again, huh? I was, hey, hey, I see you need some buns. He, he, he. Oh, my God. So where are you on celebrity dating? Would you date a celebrity? Ah.

Man, I've went out with a couple celebrity women, and it's so weird because they're so beautiful and so attractive and so talented. And I'm not saying all of them. I'm not saying all of them at all, but a few of them are so insecure. It's weird. It's like weird, like how they are.

Or if it's not that, the world is at their fingertips and you need to kind of fall in line with that. Have you witnessed that before? It's weird, you know what I mean? Because it's like, we do the same thing, you know what I mean? Why should I pick out your M&Ms and shit out of your bowl? Like, you know, it's weird.

Plus, not only that, I just don't think people don't know how to love you, you know what I mean? They don't never ask you how to be loved. They love you how they want to love you. Or how they know to love. Or how they know to love. And so therefore, it's a conversation that you have to have. You have to ask the person, how do you like to be loved?

How do you like to be treated? And then go from there. I think, I think that that's a conversation that must be had. And don't nobody never have it. Somebody give you a bunch of flowers. If a girl bought you some clothes, you'll be like this. I don't want that shit.

Like, you don't want it. You can get whatever the fuck you want. Yes, I think the thing is like for a lot of women that make a lot of money, that are celebrities, it's like the affirmation. They need constantly like, babe, you're so beautiful. You're amazing. It's almost like I need to be like a pep rally. I also have to just constantly like build them up. I'm like, babe, do you realize, like, you're beautiful. You're the baddest motherfucker. Exactly.

Dude, on the real, you'd be like, you are the baddest motherfucker walking. Like, what do you mean? Why do you, why do I have to make you feel like that? You know why? Because of what they used to. They used to going out the house. Every day they wake up, they gotta say thank you. Do you understand that? That's a, being fine is a mentality. You know what I mean? Every day you wake up, you got to say thank you. Oh, thank you.

Thank you. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Every goddamn day. And the majority of your life you've been lied to, at least 70% of your life, because you're fine. You never really get the truth. Because everybody wants something from you.

And so that mentality is something that you have to deal with when you meet a fine woman. And they're never going to really admit it, but you are treated differently. They are. And then when you tell them they don't believe it, like, oh. They don't believe it. And it's like, no, I'm telling you the truth.

Like, they lying to you. Like. Like, they lying to you. Like, they been lying to you. Women and men. And so it's a mindset, you know what I mean? But I tell women all the time, though, oh, I tell men this, too. Like, for every woman you show me, I show you a motherfucker that didn't want her.

Somebody didn't want her. You know what didn't want her. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Holly Barry had, in much respect to Holly, but she had a lot of guys that she went out with. Right. And she the finest motherfucker walking. One of them. You know what I mean?

So what is it? Yeah. Is it the beauty? It can't be the beauty. No, it's more than that. It's more than that. So what is it then? Yeah.

See, I remember telling, I told a young lady one time, I said, you're one of the finest, most beautiful women, articulate. I mean, she got a master's degree. I mean, she had everything. I'm talking about she dropped it gorgeous. And I told her this, and she looked me dead in my eye. She said, I know a lot when I hear it.

Wow. Because of what she used to, yo. I was like, I don't know where to go after that. You don't know where to go after that. Like, she, what did you say earlier when a person of mine is made up? Made up. It ain't nothing you can do. I think the thing is that sometimes you get so used to people telling you something

and you feel like they're telling you that to get something extract something out of you Yeah, that you don't realize that when someone is playing paying you a genuine compliment You think it's a lie because they want something but it is true. I didn't want something I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie to you. She was bad. She was bad. Yeah, yeah, she was bad, but I didn't want her, baby. But look, how do you navigate that? It's hard. It's hard.

And that's why I say, like, being fine is almost like a gift and a curse for a lot of women out here. Like, it's something that they have to deal with on an everyday basis that's kind of like, you know, wow. And you have to understand that dealing with her. You know, you can't... I think the best that a fine woman can do

is just choose what mess she want to be in. Right. And... Go from there. Go from there. Go from there. Yeah. The best mess.

Right. Choose the best mess. What's the best mess. What's the best way to get out? Have you ever gone on a bad date? Yeah, I've been on a bad date. What's the best way to get out of it? Man, what did I do?

Yeah. What did I do when I was on a, let me think of a really bad date. Oh man, I can't even think. I'm thinking of so many. Damn. I had some bad ones. You sure can't pick them, can you?

I had some bad ones, Jack. I remember one time I was with this girl, right? She picked me up. We go to the hotel, we hang out. And so I asked her, do she want to, true story, dog. I asked her, she wants to come to the show later. She was like, yeah, she left. She had left her shoes in my room, right?

And I was like, oh, okay. I was like, she gonna come pick them up later. She gonna hang out, right? Late on that night, nothing. She didn't respond, none of that. And I'm like, man, I ended up doing the show, left, went back to the room, me and my guy, and we was like, man, this is something to eat.

And I kept calling, she wouldn't answer, nothing. I go to the elevator, I left my wallet, went back to the room, came back, pressed the button. No, when I came back, we was both on our phones, my boy didn't press the elevator button. I was like, back, pressed the button. No, when I came back, we was both on our phones, my boy didn't press the elevator button. I was like, man, press the button. Press the button, the elevator come up, the door open, there she is.

I'm like this, there she is, I'm like this. What, I been calling you all goddamn day, what you doing? Man, right behind her, this motherfucker was like, yo, that's that dude from Black-ish, yo, baby, come here, come here, let's take a picture. Come on, baby, get in the picture. And she was like this. And he was like, come on.

He was like, oh, fuck it, fuck it, fuck it. And took a picture with me, and I'm sitting there like. She got. Dude, got off on the same floor. We was on the same floor with another dude. Same floor. It was like two in the morning in the same hotel. So I texted her, I was like this,

what the fuck, what is you? She was like this, I didn't know that he was in the same room. I'm like, who is this motherfucker? She was like this, no, he's a friend of mine. I didn't know he was coming in town and da da da da da da. And I was like, who is this motherfucker? And she was like this, no, he's a friend of mine, I didn't know he was coming in town and da da da da da da da da. And I was like, yo.

You know what, you know what you shoulda did? Hey, you left your shoes in the room, let me go get them for you. Nah, I put them up like this, and I went and got something to eat, and I put them in the bag, and put them by the garbage. Yeah.

Least under that room, housekeeping gonna be wearing some YSL or some Tom Ford or something. I put them in the bag, Yeah. Least under that room, the housekeeper gonna be wearing some wire sale or some Tom Ford. I put them in the bag, then I just set that shit down. I was like, I'm not leaving that there. Man, motherfuckers are ruthless out here. And so when you run into these type of situations, it make you kind of numb to meeting people. You know what I mean?

You're like, all right, what you about to bring to the table? What you got to say? What you got going on? And you know what I mean? You're like, all right, what you about to bring to the table? What you got to say? What you got going on? And you know. But I ain't asking for a lot to bring to the table. Just bring something other than your appetite. Look, and that's what I'm saying. Look, I tell the women all day long,

if you bring me peace, that's just as good as money. Yeah, man. Because I can't find that shit. No. I can't find peace. Peace? Like, you give me that man. Man, we we good just be cool Man, and just you know understand the situation read the room and we good, you know more More open-minded you are, you know the better we are

You know what I mean? And and and and and, you play your position, and man, we good, you know, but a lot of women don't really see shit like that sometimes, you know, and so what do you do? Where's a good place to go on a first date? And how much, because you know, there's a bit, there's a thing like, where should you take a woman on the first date? How much you should spend on the first date? Cause now, you know, women think, it ain't no like build up to five star. We started five star. It ain't no building up, okay, it used to be, you know, I spent 50, 75, maybe 100.

They like, I'm talking about five, I need the seafood tower with lobster claws and all that. I'm like, what the hell? Yeah, out the gate. But if we start, where do we go? You don't go nowhere but down. That's what they don't think about. You go nowhere but down.

And that's why a lot of this shit don't work out. And motherfuckers go broke because they trying to outdo what they did. Fuck, I'm not doing, nah, I'm not doing that. I'm not even going out. I'm not going to be seen with I'm not even going out. I'm not gonna be seen with you until I get to know you really. Right.

I'm not just going out with no stranger. Right. And then be seen with this person. Man, I did that before one day. I was out with this girl. Just met her, just meeting her. Man, we went to this restaurant. I say about nine motherfuckers and came up to her.

Hey, Steph. She like this, oh hey. Ah. What? Anyway, so then this, one motherfucker came put his hands back. Ah, dude, the cop up was the on. I'm sitting at the table looking like,

and she like this, who is this? And he was like, and she was like, Marcus. Ah. Damn. Dude, every motherfucker in the fucking place knew her. Who is this? She was like, Marcus! Damn! Dude, every motherfuckin' place knew her. So she a regular? Regular. I'm like this, and she must bring her men there all the time. I was like this, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm never going out with nobody until I know them. I'm not meeting them out in public trying to get to meet them. We gonna meet, and then that's it. You know what I mean? You took the back of the room though. Man. No, no, no, no. I heard it.

I heard it to my mark. Oh, Davey. So disrespectful, girl. Disrespectful ass. Because if you start, okay, we go on vacation. If we start off at the Maldives, we start off at Bali,

we start off at, you know, the spaceship. Where do we go? So can we look like, like stay in the States? Can we go to like California? If you live in Florida, let's go to California. We in California, let's go to Florida. Or we go. Why we got to go 12, 14, 15 hours away? Because they they went any time a woman do that. I think to myself, she trying to hit it and quit it she's trying to get what she can get and then be gone right because why you want to start that high

yes why you want to start that high it's a red flag to me yes you would tell me hey let's go to bali bali bali bye bye bitch yeah bye bye yeah yeah because because I know that's you you want to get that and be gone right you really want the pictures, you want to post on Instagram, and that's what it's about. Can we do something without taking pictures? Why? When is the thing about food? Oh my God. Oh, you mind if I take a picture?

I do mind, but go ahead. Yeah, you go. Oh, damn! The whole thing, just put your hand there. You be like this, I don't want to put my hand there. Like, no. It's always a photo. Oh, damn! The whole thing, just put your hand there. You be like this, I don't wanna put my hand there. It's always a photo, it's like, dude, let's just relax. Let's just chill, let's just get to know each other,

let's vibe, we don't need the cameras and the photos and all of that. That's a turn off. And even if I see each women, even if somebody see, like they be in Bali, they be in Maldives, oh, they take a picture by themselves really Motherfucker you got away from him All them selfies by yourself that you can wait you walk the way to go take a selfie

Deon where are you team natural body or team enhanced body? I like everything natural. It's one less thing to deal with. You know what I mean? I like natural hair, I like natural, you know. Where you find that at? But natural hair? Yeah.

It's out there. You gotta look though, you gotta look. You got to look, though. You got to look. You go to Puerto Rico, Dominican? Not yet. I mean, even women that got good hair are still covered up. I get it. And look, I'm not mad at any woman who does any of this, man.

Absolutely not. And weaves and all that. I'm just saying, me personally, it's just I just like, again, like I said earlier, I deal with simplicity. I just like simple shit, you know what I mean? I like you and your sweats. Like, when we chilling out, you know, we ain't, we ain't gotta lay a tile down

for you to lay on the pillow and shit. You know what I mean? I had some motherfuckers leave whole profiles on my fucking pillow. Yeah, man. Portraits. Yeah. Not too much.

I had portraits on my pillow. Are you a give giver? You know what? I am. I'm the type of guy that's going to do something. I don't like surprises. I hate surprises. But I like surprising people, which is weird. You know what I mean?

I'm the type of guy that be like, hey, yo, hey, everybody, come meet me over here. We over here, let's go get it. Everybody come through, hell yeah, let's go. Man, I got it, let's go. You know what I mean? I do that in a heartbeat. I'm very spontaneous like that.

You know, get up, go to a concert or whatever, grab my people. I won't even tell them. I just be like, get dressed. And my people, they know, they'd be like, if I called them and be like, hey, get dressed. They'd be like, oh shit. They already know.

You know, that something special about to happen. You know what I mean? So yeah, yeah, in that kind of way. But I'm not like, you need this and that. Like, you gotta kind of like ask me and shit, you know? Yeah. I saw that you said you don't like women that are good in the bedroom because you fall in love.

Like good in the bedroom? Yeah. I don't like good sex like that. No, I don't. What you mean? No, because, and I said this before, in my special, when a woman is too amazing, I can't help but to think about all the practice she had.

Okay, but now you playing the game. I know, I be like this, I just wanna see what we can do together. I mean, you might be looking from a distance, I'm like, damn, I wanna be like to play with Tom Brady. Now you got Tom Brady. You don't have to worry about. I like a mother who knows what she's doing,

but I feel like getting to know each other while we doing that is the turn on for me. Not let me show you what work. I don't want let me show you what work. Because me, I'll be like this, that might not work for me. I'll be like, yeah, or why don't we just fill each other out and see what works for each other. It's different. It's different. We grew up, what we grew up and what women were doing

and what it is now is totally different. Now it's like, this is here, let me give it to you. It's like, yo, wait a minute. Yes. And that's what I'm saying. That's how I am. I'm like, wait a minute now. Hold on.

I ain't like that. I'm like, come on. No. I'm like, come on. Dion says, stop. I'm like, come on, give it to you. It's a different time. Look, I think I'm a little older than you, Dion. And I remember being a teenager and what women would do then,

and then in my 20s, and when I'm 30s, and then I'm my 50s. And what? It's a whole different ballgame. It's so bizarre right now. If somebody would have told me this when I was a teenager, that it would go to this. Yo. Man, you crazy.

But you know what? Social media has a lot to do with that as well. It's just, it's, it's, they have to, I think. And I could be wrong. Don't, don't crucify me. But I think they have to be like that because there's so many options. A man can go on Instagram or swipe or do whatever and yo, he can house somebody like that. I remember this one girl told me she, this girl I used to date, she married her guy,

and I said, how did you pull him? She was like, man, I fucked my way to the top. And she was like, I meant that shit. She said I would fuck him anytime he wanted to, whatever he wanted to do, I'd do that to the point where he was like, man, I ain't leaving you. She was like, I literally fucked my way to the top where he was like, man, I ain't leaving you. She was like, I literally fucked my way to the top to be together.

Wow. And that's what a lot of women feel like they have to do. It's not, it's like women wait to be like, and men are also the problem too, you know what I mean? They out here so disrespectful with the shit that a lot of women are used to that, you know what I mean? They out here so disrespectful with the shit that a lot of women are used to that. You know what I mean? If somebody like me and you walk up charismatic as fuck, we might look like lambs.

I've been called a lame. You had to slip. You know what I mean? They just slip, yeah, like, because you're being charismatic about it, you know? I've turned down fellatio from a woman, and she thought I was gay because I ain't wanted. And I'm like this, nah, like, you do that with everybody?

Just out the gate? She like this, you don't want it? Where were y'all at? Where was we at? Yeah. Hey, you see, I ain't even got no collar on my shirt. I ain't turning that down. I wear a t-shirt.

I ain't gonna tell you. I ain't gonna tell you guy. I wear a t-shirt. No collar. I was appalled. Look, your ass ready, boy. Hey, baby. Hey. Hey, man, this is true now. I mean, you know, the internet and the stuff that Stevie Wonder took your girl. Yo, true story.

Come on, Dion! True story, dog. True story. You can't write that shit. You can't write that shit. Hold on. Stevie Wonder's. Not the boy G, the 13-year-old.

Stevie Wonder. Like, he married, he chilling now, but that motherfucker was a savage. He got you? Man, Stevie got everybody. No, I'm serious, Stevie, a motherfucker, dude. Everybody be thinking that I was just joking about that. But no, Stevie was a savage, Jack.

Oh, man. Man, we went to a concert and me and her, we chilling. And she was like, I was like, man, we moving backstage. And one of the Stevie people was like, man, he wanted to meet her. Her? Yeah, like they wanted to meet her and I was like, yeah, go ahead, meet Stevie. I'm, it's all good, you know? I'm sitting there like 45 minutes.

Oh no, he got. And then she come back and she goes, hey, do you mind taking a cab home? And I said, I said, why am I taking, cause she drove, I'm like, why you mind taking a cab home? And I said, I said, why am I taking, because she drove, I'm like, why am I taking the cab home? She was like, cuz Stevie, he just wanted to talk to me about some things and da da da.

What? And I was like, are you kidding me? She was like, yeah, she gave me $100 to go home. I got in the cab and went home. And I was like, wow, this is a dark day. Dion! Stevie, Jack, and every time I saw that motherfucker, I'd be like this.

You threw out all those records too. I said, you knew what you did motherfucker. And he was like this, oh man, oh man, stop playing. Stevie, a motherfucker, like he'll just come up to you and be like this, stop acting like a bitch. That really happened? Man. First of all, why you waited 45 minutes?

Stevie a motherfucker. Let me tell you something. Questlove got a story about Stevie one day. If you ever talk to Quest. We got to get Quest on. Tell him Quest, I'm putting you on blast. He knows Stevie's a motherfucker. Everybody knows Stevie a motherfucker. President Obama knows Stevie's a motherfucker. Stevie's a motherfucker. Like, Stevie a...

I ain't never heard of Stevie. Ask Quest. He clipped you. Look, Quest told me, like, sometimes, Stevie don't even be invited to shit sometimes. He just be showing up. Come on. Who gonna turn out Stevie?

True. And Stevie show up and act a fucking fool in that motherfucker life thing. Mm-mm. But he chilling now. He married and he chilling out or whatever. You wish he'd have been mad at him. Stevie was a mom.

Fuckin' jack. Ooh. Would you date publicly? Date publicly? Yeah. Would you know how you and your girl on the internet, you know, on social media, click click. Look, we here, look at Deon and his people. I don't think so, man.

Not how the world is fucked up right now because people get all in your business and they'll tear that shit up. Nobody want to see you happy. Nobody want to see you happy. So why display that? It's like we don't need to do that shit. And people who do that, that's fine or whatever.

To each his own. To each his own, whatever. But I just feel as though that motherfuckers is going to try to destroy that shit and then try and then get all in her ear or get in my ear about her. You know what I mean? Well, I'm like, I'd rather keep it real light. We stay little. You know what I mean? Because that's how I am. I believe if you date publicly, you got to break up publicly. If you date in private, you can break up in private.

You can break up in private. You can break up in private, and your problems don't have to be everybody's problems. And TMZ and nobody else will never know about it. Now I'm looking at like JLo and Ben and all that. That should be nobody's business. Nobody's business. But if you go out there with the ring and the gowns

and all that shit, then Yeah, you got that coming. And then you can't ask for privacy when you're giving everybody public display. But here's the thing that trips me out when you repeatedly do it. You should learn from the first episode. You know what I mean? The first time that happened. But you keep doing it. The first five movies.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The first five, it's like, after a while, it's like, oh, you're doing this. Right. You're doing this. Right. You know what I mean? Has any other celebrity clipped you other than Stevie? Man, who else clipped me? I'm quite sure. Gangum.

I'm telling you. It's a gangum clipping. You know who a motherfucker is. I put him out there. Jim Johnson. He used to play ball. Jim, that's my dog. Jim Jackson? Jim Jackson. Jack, Jack, that's my dog. Jack my dog. Jack my dog now. JJ. Jack it is baby. Jack, that's my, shout out to Jack. That's my dog. I like hanging with Jack. But boy, that boy go, ooh, it's a good time with Jack. Hold on.

I heard you dated one of Shaq's exes. And you couldn't feel the shoes, literally or figuratively? Nah, yeah. My man. Why would you do that? Don't ever, don't ever, don't ever fuck after the shack. That's what I, that's the point. Like, don't, just don't do it. Why, why would you do that?

I didn't know at the time. She told me later. After I got up, I was like, man, that was real hollow. I was real hollow. Why was that so hollow? I'm whistling in this one. I'm whistling. We can, we can, we can, we can, we can.

Just nothing. Come on. Not Nathan. Touch nothing. Touch nothing, nothing at all. And I was like, so I was just like, yeah, so who did you used to deal with? And she told me.

And I was like, get the fuck out of here. I said, that's why I did that. You shoulda told me that before. Dude, she shoulda told me, she should tell everybody before. She should tell everybody, she should go, hey, my name is Such and Such and you know I fucked with Shaq.

They be like, oh, okay, well nice meeting you, sister. Yeah. Yeah. Damn, B.R. Dude, Shaq. You ain't go back though? That's my next, nah, I ain't go back. Man, I was traumatized.

I was traumatized. And Jackie, you don't know, don't, I'm telling you, don't, nobody, if she fuck with Shaq, just keep it moving. This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two is also posted and you can access it to whichever podcast platform you just listened to part one on. Just simply go back to Club Shae Shae Profile and I'll see you there.