Club Shay Shay - Deon Cole Part 2

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

The conversation continues with Deon Cole discussing his experiences of cheating and threesomes, including a bad one he had in Atlanta with a WNBA player, and why he believes social media has fundamentally changed dating and relationships. He touches on his personal style, recounting how he was labeled "gay" for wearing bell-bottom pants early in his career, and how the backlash from the Black community hurt him even as it opened doors to a new audience. Deon reflects on the lack of unity in the Black community and explains why negativity often seems louder than positivity. He and Shannon share their thoughts on Hollywood parties, with Deon admitting he prefers smaller, intimate gatherings to big, flashy events. The conversation turns to the Diddy situation and Hollywood parties, where Deon shares insights on how billionaires move differently. He also recounts when Jay-Z declined to take a picture with him and his time writing jokes for celebrities like Conan O'Brien, Snoop Dogg, and Katt Williams. He and Shannon address the fallout from Shannon’s viral interview with Katt earlier in the year, with Deon explaining how that interview sparked a trend of people making outlandish statements just to go viral and how it revealed that comics aren’t always buddy-buddy, while Shannon explains how he approaches conducting interviews. Deon talks about Netflix’s “Netflix Is a Joke” brunch, which featured himself alongside Dave Chappelle, Kevin Hart, Katt Williams, Tiffany Haddish, Lil Rel, and Mike Epps. He recounts Katt Williams leaving the brunch before Kevin Hart arrived but assures there was no tension between the two. Towards the end, Deon shares a story about kissing Amber Rose on the set of Black-ish and weighs in on the Jonathan Majors situation. With a blend of humor, insight, and storytelling, this episode is packed with unforgettable moments, celebrity shoutouts, and Deon Cole’s signature comedic style. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. Have you ever got caught cheating? I did. I got caught cheating. I was living with this girl and came home, turned the light on, and the other girl I was dating was in the house with her. I was like, I got the wrong wrong apart and they both was like this Yeah, yeah motherfucker. What you gonna do now? Yeah And hopefully all that I shot that comments. I was confident. I was I was cool as the funds

I sat there was less looking at both of them and they did all day What you gotta say now, what you gotta say now? And I was cool as ice. I just said, who gonna stay with me? Which one of y'all gonna stay with me? That's who I'm explained to. Wow. And one of them was like, see I knew you didn't care motherfucker.

And left. And the other one sat there and was crying. I said, you leaving too? And she just sat there and she was like, and that's who I explained it to her, and me and her, we kept it going. Dior, that get cold. That cold.

I would try that one. If I ever get caught, I would try that one. Which one? I'm sorry. I'm only explaining one time. I'm only explaining one time to one person. You, or you? You or you.

Who am I talking to? Wow. And I talked to her, me and her, we was cool. Ooh. Yeah. And I told her exactly what happened, on some real shit. So what about marriage? Would I get married?

Yeah. I would like to get married, I would like to get married, but like again, it's gotta be like, it's gotta be with that motherfucker, that friend, man. No stress, no none of that. Even if you feel stressed, you gotta believe in yourself that this ain't shit, this ain't bigger than us. You can't keep making situations bigger than us.

Like, you have to understand the situation at hand and know that if we are going to grow together, we're gonna constantly have issues. Because the level if we are going to grow together, we're going to constantly have issues. Because the level that we are on now, we got ill issues on that level. Right. You know what I mean? Now, if we go here, it's new issues with this shit. It might be I got to be out of town. You might have to be out of town more. I got to be out of town more. Now that adds more trust. You know what I mean? Now we get to this level, we got a new house, we got a new dad, now we got new neighbors and shit.

Now we gotta do this and do that. And the house, we got different issues with the house. Like we got different issues with the house. Like it's levels, but for every level, it's a new devil. You know what I mean? And so therefore you have to deal with that, but you cannot let that be greater than therefore you have to deal with that. But you cannot let that be greater than where you're trying to go in your situation.

And you have to learn from that from each level. A lot of people, they go to another level and then they argue. And they never think that, no, we got another issue. We got different issues on this different level. If we now making money and we successful, that's going to come extra hoes, extra niggas and shit like that and so therefore you got to be able to handle that, you know what I mean? And you got to be able to deal with that and then it's gonna come to another level where you don't even spend time together, you know what I mean? And you got to be able to be cool

with that. So you got to be able to know that we are bigger than any issue on this level. Until I find that woman, then we good. But we definitely have to grow together and have some issues in order to grow. I heard you talk and I hear the pain, the love, and your voice for your mom. Are you looking for that, and a mate mate you say that was your right hand you say there is a place that you could always Go and you could lay and it was perfect and you haven't found that in that one person Are you looking for that? and a mate

So I searched for that love and it don't exist. You know. That's unconditional. Because your partner is gonna love you on the conditions. You don't cheat, you don't hurt me, you don't lie to me, you don't do anything. Your mom is gonna look, you could do the most heinous. She gonna say, yeah, that boy wrong and he deserved it, whatever happens, but that's my baby.

Yes. That's unconditional. I'm not so sure outside of the family dynamic, you can get that. You can't. And you search for it. When you miss it, when you miss it, that's when you miss it. You don't even realize what unconditioned, no one who still has their parents even know what unconditional love is right now. I don't think they know. They just know that they love their parents.

You know unconditional love when you no longer have it. When you no longer have that shit, you be like, oh, that's what that was. And you search for it, and you can't find it. I've lost women trying to find that. You know what I mean? I lost people in my life trying to find that, you know? But I also lost people in my life from not allowing me to be different.

You know what I mean? I'm no longer the same, and I never will be the same. So, any... anything that you expect from me of how I used to be, and I'm not doing that, I honestly think you selfishly around me for your... for your own good, because of how I make you feel. But you're not willing to convert your feelings towards me.

You know what I mean? So me trying to find that in women, I no longer do that, and I admit that I think I have done that, because I was looking for that feeling, and I couldn't find it, and I accepted the fact that that is gone. That's gone, it's never coming back. It is never coming back, and so now, I couldn't find it. And I accepted the fact that that is gone.

That's gone, it's never coming back. It is never coming back. And so now, I feel kind of like the love that's there can't compete with that. So I'm not as gung-ho when I have to train my mind to go that this is a different love that you have to invest in and you have to build it and grow it and build it to something. It would never be this.

And you have to stop comparing. And people who lose people, you have to stop comparing loves because you'll be miserable your whole day. You have to go this was that and that's over. Now you have to build another kind of love and another kind of trust with this person and stop comparing and searching for this, because you would never have this ever again. You know what I mean?

And so that's why I am with it right now, where I'm not trying to put that upon people and deal with it myself and just keep it moving, are you willing to change for a woman? Yes, I am I'm willing to change definitely and I and I and I have changed, you know, I've changed totally, you know In my oldie years, I'm no longer thinking the way that I used to think, you know I used to think about career and jokes and stuff like that. And now my mind is different. You know, I'm older.

I'm thinking about legacy. You know, I'm thinking about, you know, kid like setting up, you know, like, yeah, my son, making sure my son is straight, you know, you want more kids. I don't know. I mean, maybe I'm not sure. You know what I'm saying? I mean, personally, I don't feel like I really want to right now. I feel like I'm too old to have a kid.

And you know what I mean? I just feel like, you know, I, I wish I would have had more around the same time I had my son, but again, that's, that's over. You know what I mean? But, but you see how quick you said you willing to change? Yeah. Majority of women you willing to change? Yeah. Majority of women are willing to change.

He better accept me how I am. You see how quick the man was willing? You said, I'll be willing to change. Men are always asked to change. Women accept me as I am. Yeah, and that's real. And that's a word. And look, that's where a lot of disconnect is.

You know what I mean? Because they're not willing to change and play their position in a sense. They may not because they go, hey, take me as I am or not, because that's how everybody else does. They take them how they are. When it's like, no, you have to make this thing work for you.

You gotta look at how the good in this person and see what they can bring, what value they can bring and then work from that. If you really think this person can elevate you love wise, money wise, spiritually, then invest in this person. You know what I mean? Don't don't come with just your ways and your ways only and think that this is supposed to happen. Because yes, it's going to be some people that will adjust to yours, but then they'll be miserable.

And can you live with that person being miserable in your life? Like, you don't even want that. You know what I mean? Like, I don't want no, if I'm not bringing you joy, we shouldn't even be around each other at all. I went out with a woman who wanted a kid and... That's not where you were.

I told her, I was like, man, it was the hardest thing in the world where I was like, you just gotta, I want you to go have your kid. You'll find love again, but you gotta go have your kid, you know? And it was the hardest thing in the world, but I'm the type of guy where I'm like, I want you to have joy, and I want you to live your... And you gonna be mad at me because I denied you the ability to live.

Exactly, and I don't want to live with that. And I don't want to live with you looking at me all day long going, ugh, you know what I mean? And so I want you to do whatever it is you need to do in order for you to be happy. I'm big on if it makes you happy, it don't gotta make sense, whatever it is. If it makes you happy, it don't have to make sense.

Whatever your situation is, if you got a husband or you got a wife and y'all got some people on the side and y'all taking care of y'all household. Man, that's your business. And you do that. As long as it makes you happy, it don't have to make sense. Only to you.

Only to you. Right. Where are you on interracial dating? I think nowadays, man, there's so much shit to like worry about in the world. Why would you care about who dating who, you know, but me personally, like what I date outside my race, I don't think so. No, not at all. Like, not like being a full blown relationship like that. I'm not saying that I wouldn't,

I don't know what happened. You know what I'm saying? Anytime I say I won't do something, it happens. I'll leave this interview. I've been walking down the street with a white woman. something, it happens. So something comes in your head. Right. I leave this interview, I've been walking down the street with a white woman right after this interview. Like, I mean, what you doing? Like, I said I wouldn't.

Yeah, yeah. And that's why I got her right now, because I said I wouldn't. So it's like, you know, it's like, again, if it makes you happy nowadays, go with it. Right. Like, I'm just all about people having joy, because there's so many haters out here. There's so many people that disrespect you. There's so much hate. There's so much hate online.

Comments, all that shit. It's just hatred. And it's like, dude, whatever make you happy, just go do that shit. Go do that shit. Go get happy and get out the way. Because these motherfuckers are here to destroy you they don't care what it is they are gonna leave negative comments that I just don't I don't get how they are right now you know what I mean I got one day I looked at Dwayne

Wade page you I could the hatred that's on that man's page it's like that's that man's child they want the man to disown his child. That's his child What how did that what was that effect you? Bro, it's the most weirdest shit in the world. Why do you think your opinion matters? I feel like this ain't no fortune 500 motherfucker leaving no bad comment Nobody no ain't gonna fuck up their own shit and ain't no Fortune 500 motherfucker leaving no bad comment. Nobody. Because they ain't gonna fuck up their own shit. And they ain't got time to leave negative comments.

If it ain't something positive or something you want to leave out there, then why would you leave that? So anybody that leaving negative comment, no, you showing your economic situation. You should not be doing that shit. And if you don't like what this man or this woman have going on in their life, why are you following them? Why you... It's so... This how fucked up everybody is. They will follow a motherfucker they do not like.

Just to see what this motherfucker do every day and fuck their whole day up. Yes. They whole day be fucked up looking at what this person do. Well, all you gotta do is unfollow. I don't, name the person. I don't get it. Dion, name the person that don't like a particular food, but then go to that restaurant to eat. Name it.

So you don't like this person, why are you following him? Why are you following, and it's so bizarre. That's what I mean, it's like the hatred, and they wanna keep up with what that person's doing and they feel like they want to see what they do. It's so bizarre. People be on my page and they'd be like leaving the nastiest shit and I'd be like, why? What do you think?

What do you want me to do about your comment? And I never met you a day in my life. Right. What do you want me to do about that shit? There's nothing I can do about that shit? There's nothing I can do about it. I don't even know you. I told you, man, I'm telling you, like,

Martin Luther King and them, they couldn't have pages. No, hell no. They couldn't have pages. No, they couldn't have pages. It's like, you have a device where you can touch someone that you admire. You can talk to them.

Yes. That didn't happen on our day. No. Did it? No. You can talk to Prince. No. We never had that kind of access.

No, no, no. We never had that kind of access. You couldn't do it. You can talk to James Earl Jones. You can do that. Now you have the ability to reach out to who inspires you, and you take the time to be in these, you're ugly.

What are you doing? What are you doing? Why didn't you ask them some economic shit or ask them, how did you get into the business yet? How did you get into the business or ask them about relationship advice or whatever it is, you know? And I think the best, I just want to throw this out there, the best relationship care that you can have is watching a standup special. I just want to throw this out there, the best relationship care that you can have

is watching a standup special. I just want to throw that out there. Have you ever did that? Your special, okay mister. And I ain't even just saying mine, but have you ever watched the standup special with a woman? And from what the comic was talking about y'all discussed,

cause they'll talk about relationship shit, right? This is great. Any couple should watch a stand-up special when they're in a healthy situation. I just want to throw that out there. Hello, I heard you had a bad experience with a threesome in Atlanta. What made you want to try that?

Well, one of the girls was in the WNBA, and that was kind of odd. I talked about it in my special. I know you did. Yeah, but that was kind of odd. I talked about it in my special. I know you did. Yeah, but that was a real situation. Yeah, this girl was like, yeah, yeah, I wanna get down with you and I was like, yeah. I wanna get down with you too?

I was like, yeah, she's like, I'm gonna call my girl up. I was like, man, yeah, I was like, let's go to the room. We go to the room and she walked in that motherfucker, she was like six, five, hooper, hooper, hooper. Like knee bandage on, she came in there like, what's happening, what we doing? And I was like, eh, eh. See, that ain't me.

I would, I would never thought. I'm old school. Duh. I like my women like basketball, one on one. One on one. You never had three? No. Never?

No. No. Why? My attention span ain't too long. What? I need to focus on this, what I got right here. OK. I'm right here.

So really, never. Have you ever been approached? Yeah, and you turned it down Yeah It's okay. Yeah me. I think the biggest thing is cuz I'm afraid because I Really prior to becoming who I was who I am now Mm-hmm, I might have would have done it But I had already started to become a known commodity. And the last thing I say to nah, it ain't worth it.

So I have to be careful of certain situations now. But I mean, I feel like man, I try to be, cause you hear people talk about it. So look, if the woman that you deal with, if she came to you, it's like, man, I got a young lady that I want to join us this evening. And you trust her. You wouldn't do it?

Yeah. She ain't going to tell you what she all did. No. I ain't going to lie, no. I wouldn't say do it just with anybody, but I would say that do it with some people that you trust and that y'all, you know, y'all know each other and you know, it's good. But man, this is I got tunnel vision.

I have a singular focus. Yeah. I got the task at hand. I got it. And I'm all about that too. Yeah. Absolutely. Focus. Because somebody go get left out

Three some things like would you be jealous if that's probably what it is? But I want to see them get down. I didn't do that one. Yeah, they're the new ever but I do a you ever like this That never been my thing though, they never been my bag Your ass will be like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, yeah, this is cool, you know, and it worked out and it was beautiful. And I've had it where it wasn't beautiful. Yeah, it was like, you know, it was like two girls, they just left me out. What? Yeah.

Damn, whoa, whoa, whoa. Y'all didn't take that somewhere else? I'm waiting to get tapped in. Like. Hey, hold on. This about to be a tag team match now. Come on now. I'm trying every angle I can get.

I'm trying. Hey, you get the double dash. You get ready to cook. I'm like, I'm just having slurred in. They're like, I was like, all right. Yeah, let me go get on my phone. Fuck it. I think it's in your special also,

where you women, younger women, called an older man mister. Mm-hmm, yeah. That's a eye-opener, ain't it? Yeah. I mean, I'm at the age that used to be old. You know, I remember when I was a teenager, I was in my twenties.

I mean, that old, whoa, that ain't old. 56 ain't old, I was in my Twitties. I was down almost, whoa, that ain't old. 56 ain't old, I don't care what y'all say. It was old then, it ain't old now. It was old then, it ain't old now, right? No, no, I mean, yeah, that's an eye opener. That's why I named my special that, okay, mister. It's like that simple phrase,

that simple phrase sums up everything about you when you're getting older. Yeah. When a woman goes, OK, or a young lady goes, OK, mister. Or mister, you know what time it is? Or sir. Any of that shit, you like, oh my god. Bam. Ah, I'm the chaperone in the party.

You just be like, god,, I gotta get out of here. I gotta go. How's it been for you dealing with the inevitable? You're becoming older. It's something else. You know, it's like the women are like, wow. They're like the older are like, wow. Like the older women, they wild now, Jack.

Oh, the ones that been married for 30 years, 20 years, finally divorced, ain't had nobody else but him. Oh, they out here. They out here strong. They like, yeah, oh yeah, they out here like wow. What about them young ones? Are they out there too? See the young ones, the young ones.

Not too young. Yeah, I can't, I can't, you know. What's the cutoff, what's the cutoff? I mean, you won't go below? 28? Too low. I think, I think. 32.

35. They gotta have an older spirit. If their spirit is older, then I'm cool. You know what I mean? Like, if they're very mature and cool, then cool. But yeah, just, yeah. That's what I kind of look for, just how mature you and how do you hold your own or whatever.

But you can't be having no future posters hanging up on the wall and shit. Like, you can't have having no future posters hanging up on the wall and shit. You can't have no amigos posters. So is there an age that's too young for Dion? Oh, yeah. It's like 23, 24, 25. Yeah, like that's young, man. I thought you were supposed to go half your age plus seven.

Who told you that number? I thought that was the thing. Your grandmother said that again. I really thought it was the thing. So if you go half your age plus seven. I ain't never heard that in my life. Half your age plus seven. So 25, 25, 25, 32, 32.

I've never heard that. What's the plus seven for? That's your cutoff. So half your age, you 50, right? Right. Plus seven, 32. So your cutoff should be 32. So anything from 32 moving forward, you good. I mean, 30, if they're about to be-

But why are you adding seven to it? If they're about to be 32 in a couple of months, that'd be good, too. Yeah. But wait a minute. Why do you add to seven? That was just the thing. Actually, I think I. Why wouldn't you add five or nine?

Why is it seven? I just old hurt the saddest. That's some old southern shit you grew up on. Which is cool, I ain't mad to south. But why is it that people get upset that older men that date younger women? Have you dealt with that? Man, I've seen it happen a lot of times.

I just, no, I don't know. Me personally, I like, you know, it's got some type of connect. It's gotta be some type of almost connecting with struggle. You know what I mean? We don't connect, okay. You didn't. You trying to hit that motherfucker out the park, doesn't you?

We gonna connect. I don't know if we gonna say it. You trying to hit that motherfucker out the park, I was like, I can't, I don't know. Like, yes, I would be lying if I didn't say that, I've had dealings with younger women before. But even then, I just was like, I don't know, just.

That's your thing. Yeah, just, it was something that just, you know, I don't know, you know, I don't know, it's kinda odd. But like I said, if they act very mature. Very mature. Yeah, yeah, it's all love or whatever, you know. But not if they like,-ing in and all that. I can't, man, I'm outta there

if I see all that shit happen, man. Bet you boy get that selfie with you. Yeah, you can write up in there. Nah, I think I'm done. There was this viral video that you posted, I think you had on some bell-bottom jeans. Oh, shit. And then all of a sudden,

and you come out with the bell bottom jeans and it seems to be a thing now because everybody even dress lacks have a little wider bottom. It seems like everything goes back to the 70s because that was the thing in the 70s. Everybody had wide. Everybody had wide.

Everybody had, and all of a sudden, Dion Gay. Dude, it was the wildest shit ever. I was just on some James Brown shit. The whole outfit looked like some shit James wore that he did wear. And I was just like, man, I like this. This is dope. And I was like, I'ma rock this shit.

And wore that shit, man. And I don't know why that shit went out the gate. To this day, I still don't understand that shit. I lost jobs. I had people quit coming to my shows. For what? Man, because of my outfit. I had a woman tell me one time, she was like,

man, I wish I hadn't come to your show. My boyfriend was like, you're not going to that gay ass nigga show. And people stop fucking with me. Even people in the business, they stop fucking with me over that. And I just could not believe that shit. I was like, wow, over outfit.

But here go the ill shit. Henry Styles from One Direction, he wore the same suit maybe a month later, praised him. He was in GQ magazine with the same, not a version, the same, cause it was a Gucci suit. Different demo. Different, I get that, but still in awe. he was praised and won awards for wearing that suit. And it's like, it's almost like your people, our people, they're shit on some shit and

don't have nothing to replace it with. You know what I mean? They're like, ha, get your ass out of here and fuck it, da da da da da da. Don't have nothing to replace it with. Instead of looking at it like, man, this brother's just doing his thing, or yo, he ran some shit from the past, because that's all it was. That's all it was.

And they just. Everybody in the 70s, all the big bands in the 70s, Earth, 25, Ohio players, the stylistic, the barcane. Everybody wore that shit. Everybody. Kelly Pendergrass band, Marvin Gaye, you name something. They do what they want. To this day, people bring that shit up.

It's everything that I've done in my career, that was like the most monumental shit. And it's only with black folk. Ain't a white person yet came to me and talked to me about my bell bottoms. But you know who hired me? White folks. When black folks wasn't even hot, weren't fucking with me.

I was doing all like white shows, TV shows and all that still getting my money quietly. Quietly getting my money and getting it. You know what I mean? But black folks, man, I wasn't on no best dressed list, sexiest black man, most successful. How can you have, man, I had hit, you know how hard it is to have a hit TV show?

It's like lightening in the bottle. I had like one, two, three, I had like three hit shows. Grown-ish, Black-ish, Andy Tribeca, I had all these shows. His shows couldn't present, couldn't present on the award shows, wasn't a part of nothing, nobody invited me to no parties. And still to this day, I don't go to that shit because don't nobody fuck with me like that, you know?

And it's like, it's weird. It's like, national commercial, movies, all that shit. Anything that any other, more than a lot of what other motherfuckers got going on that's invited to these shit. And I'm saying more than a lot of what other motherfuckers got going on that's invited to these shits. And I'm saying that I need to go to this. But I'm just saying like, to have these conversations with these guys and, and me, I think it all stemmed from from those fans. After those fans, it was it was it was down. It was down ever since then. All the way into now and I just never understood that. I never understood why my own people would do that shit to me.

Why are we so willing to attach that to our celebrities, our prominent figures in our community? Well, I think they, I think if I had to guess, I would think that they was like, yo, we look up to you. And if you're being, you looking gay or promiscuous, then, yo, then, then, then you let us down. If the joke's not as funny, can I not sing? They told me. Can I not act? No.

Can I not play a sport? Man, my ticket sales shot down after that. I couldn't sell out a room because of those goddamn pants, man. It wasn't like I wasn't funny or nothing like that. But you know what? It was a group of people who was like, nah, fuck that. You funny. We respect you.

We love you. And they rocked with me. And I just kept going at the pace that I went. All those that hated on me, that shit got old and a new audience came and they was like, no, this motherfucker is dope. So all these motherfuckers that hated on me, they went to the wayside and a whole nother audiences up there, you know what I mean? The whole new people, people that love me and I fuck with them, you know what

I mean? And those that did that shit, that shit was hurtful, man. That shit. I mean, oh, man, that shit fuck with me. More so, it was my people. It was my people that was doing that. There wasn't no other races. It was my people that was like, yo, you gay and all that. It shouldn't bother you. I was like, why you saying it?

So give me the reason. So what do you hope to accomplish by that? It seems like you wanted me to become successful because y'all rocked me when I was on Undisputed You called me unk and everything then I got these shows outside of Undisputed I'm on ESP now all of a sudden all of a sudden they saying that shit about you and look that's that's all they Because they looking for something to hate on you about they looking for something that they can Bring you down on and all of that and then who's to say that gay is bringing down?

Why is that negative? I look, it's the weirdest shit in the world. It's like, man, it's like, I don't know what it is, man. I'm quite sure some righteous brother out there is gonna be watching this and let me explain to your brother. And it's like, nah, that don't have nothing to do with it. You still have to be human. You still got to treat people with respect regardless of what they into all day long.

Your opinion don't matter. And you should look at your opinion. You should look at all the opinions that you motherfuckers be leaving. Which one made you richer or healthier? None of them. So why are you still leaving the motherfuckers? Because your spirit is fucked up and you constantly wanna just fuck over people and make them feel just as miserable as you doing shit. And they do that shit. But now you look out, everybody wearing bell bottoms.

Everybody wearing them shit. They everywhere. They wearing the motherfuckers and videos and everything. And ain't nobody talking shit about them. Ain't nobody talking shit about them. But coming out the gate, you make these fashion choices and you either the hottest shit moving or you burn, but you gotta take those risks.

And so therefore I took a risk and I'm gonna keep taking risks. I'm gonna keep doing what I do and rocking what I rock or whatever. And I'm not gonna worry about them. I think where I fucked up was I responded. And they told you don't respond. And I responded and I shouldn't have responded to that shit, you know, but I ain't had no PR team

at the time and no shit like that, and I don't now, but I do know, and I'm just like, you know, just let people think whatever they wanna think, but yeah, that was a fucked up moment. People gonna think, look, they were just looking for a reason because because here's the thing I don't know how many people they there's like well because they've never seen I don't really post So and I don't go on IG live and then back to the thing I'm like, so let me get this right the first time I've ever been on IG live. That's what I'm gonna post

You've never seen me post anything I have I think there's one picture you might find on the internet with me, and that was from 12, 13 years ago. But because I don't post, I'm very private. Yeah, me too. You don't need to know what I'm doing. Me too, I'm the same way. I'm private as hell. Like I don't be throwing shit out there like that.

I put out there my work shit or whatever. A workout video. Work shit like that, but then that's about it. Yeah, none of my none of my personal shit. But I just think that if there's something with black men or black women and gay, that hasn't been resolved, and people don't want you to live and be you. It's like it's almost like they want everybody to be the same. Right. And it's like, aren't y'all? Aren't y'all bored with just the same shit? Like Lenny Kravitz is refreshing to me. Right.

That motherfucker go out there in a neck shirt and some leather shorts and this guitar, that motherfucker be rocking and every woman in that motherfucker waiting and lined up to get them. But Dion, the way I look at it is that what somebody eats, what someone dresses like, what someone are in their private life. How does that impact me? It doesn't. That's I mean, my life. It doesn't. And if you consume with your life while you consume with others. Yes, that lets me know your life ain't that interesting. It's not for you to leave a negative comment for you

to say something for you to sit back and be like, I'm gay, I'm this, I'm that and the third, you didn't just missed out on breaking bread with me. You didn't missed out on we could have been breaking bread together. Instead, you rather go I'm gay, rather than go, hey, man, fuck that. I got you over here. These motherfuckers talk shit about you. I got you deep fuck that. And I'm going man, good looking dog talk shit about you. I got you deep. Fuck that. And I'm going, man, good looking dog. I appreciate that. What city you in? Atlanta? When I come down there, brother, we gonna hang out. We gonna da da da. We gonna break bread. And now we're not we're not we're not we're not we're breaking bread. You know what I mean?

Instead of you leaving your negative ass comments, you fucking your chances up. So it's been many times people have left a good comment on my page and I've been like, oh man, man, I can't afford to get to your show. I got you. I'll give you tickets. Come on through, whatever. And they come through and we take pictures and hang out and you know what I mean? Just being nice. But your negative shit, it don't get you nowhere. It gets you a bunch of people that's negative like you saying, ah, good one. And then where does that go? What money are you getting from that comment? Nothing. Nothing. And it's a bizarre world that's going on with that.

Because you wrote a letter, a Willie Lynch letter, where you compared your experience to Willie Lynch's letter. Why did you feel you needed to write that letter? Because I just felt like, I felt like, again, like I said, black people are notorious for building up their own and then tear them down. You know what I mean?

Nobody's like, reprimanding you or going, hey, we understand what happened or that was a mistake or okay, cool, whatever, you know, like, it's just, there's no leadership with us. You know what I mean? There's no place. If another race says something fucked up about us, there's nobody to answer to. Is it? If you say something about like a Jewish community

or something like that, they have a community that you have to go talk to, that you have to donate money, talk to, tell them you understand, learn a culture. Apologize profusely. Apologize profusely. There's still no guarantee that it tell them you understand, learn a culture. Apologize profusely. Apologize profusely. There's still no guarantee that it's going to ever be back what it was.

Let somebody say something about us. Who do they got an answer to? Nobody. Nobody. Nothing. Because we split it ourselves. Because we split our goddamn selves. So how much unity do you expect for me

to have when you saying all these things? Or what kind of unity do you expect for me to have when you saying all these things? Or what kind of unity do you think that we gonna have by you saying negative comments all the time? You know, we should be policing ourselves in a sense. If somebody do something wrong, we should be able to grab our own and go, yo, yo, yo, yo, yeah, he said that, but we got him. Take him to the NAACP.

The NAACP office to me should be a place where we go and we correct things and do everything. It shouldn't be for just award show shit and all that. This should be our headquarters that should be up in every goddamn city that we can go to and have a place for refuge or where we can go and hang out and talk and have conversations about certain things, correct our own, deal with our own, have to talk to our own, if somebody do something, they're not shunned away from them. You know what I mean?

There's a lot of black folks who be in situations and everybody get away from them. Don't nobody be around, don't nobody talk to them, don't nobody do nothing. And I'm sick of that. I think that we should be like, yeah, he fucked up, but we got him. We got him. Hey, rest of the world. He said sorry. He already said sorry motherfuckers.

We got him. Come on, man. I mean, to take them and take them back and talk to him and we don't have that. You know that what I learned over the last year and a half is that my sister told me this. She said, Shannon, do you actually think you could have risen to the heights you risen without people looking like you? She's like, yeah, they're gonna be a few that's gonna say thing that's gonna be Jealous gonna be envious that's gonna dislike you But the majority of the people they look like you they got you she said how you get that name on White people didn't give you that name. Your community gave you that name.

And it means something. And I had to learn, the people that rock with me, I rock with them. And I'm the same way. And the people that don't rock with me, because you know what my grandfather said, D, and I'm gonna tell you something, he said, the devil will never show up as the devil

because if he did, you wouldn't do the deal with it. You wouldn't do the deal with him. Your enemy will never show up as the enemy because you wouldn't allow me in your circle. Say that word, man. Say that goddamn word. So now, we got to be careful. Everybody that was in your circle, because you learn a lot as you start to go here and they don't go with you. The devil's the devil's best attribute is pretending he doesn't exist.

To your point, that's the exact thing what it is. And you have to know that that devil is out there for sure. And it is going to be out there. Right. With everything that you do that devil is gonna be there And you got to be able to to fill that out and maneuver properly right prayerfully Until you can get out that situation or you deal with that situation Cuz I when I look at the comments like on club Shae Shae ain't nobody leaving those ain't nobody leaving that on nightcap

Mm-hmm my people, they rock with me. But if I post something on my own thing, that like, y'all follow me just to leave that? Yeah, yeah, no, no. Y'all don't even like Nightcap. Y'all don't like Club Shay-Shay, so y'all don't even come on the page. Y'all don't, like, I don't even want them to get no views.

I don't even think anything like that. But, I was like, man, there got to be something better in your life. And it's the same thing with my people, man. My fam that follow me, I know my fam. My fam that follow me when I do stand-up, the shows be sold out and people be there, I know the love, I feel that love.

It's a different love during that bell-bottom shit. This is a whole nother family that I got that I love and admire. They there when I'm DJing, they there when I do movies, they there when I do whatever, and I feel that love. And I'm so glad that group of people, the hatred that was there, I'm so glad. It's so minute, it's so small. It's so small, it's so small.

All y'all in the room together couldn't feel it. But, but, but, but, but, see, our minds be kinda fucked up. Yes. Because we will read through 10,000 comments. It's so all y'all in the room together couldn't feel it. Oh, but but but but see our minds be kind of fucked up Yes, because we will read through ten thousand comments. It'd be that one comment That'll fuck your whole day up. You know what I mean? It used to be like that now I don't allow that shit to you. Absolutely right. I don't allow that shit go to a stadium There can be eighty thousand fans in that stadium seventy, 79,000 of them are for you. But you'll hear that 1,000 at Boo.

You'll hear, and nothing else is, and you can't hear shit else but that. On the real. I don't know why. I'll do a show and it'll be 2,000, 3,000 people there. And it'll be one motherfucking front row. I'll look at that nigga all night long, like, what your arms folded for?

Yeah, why you mad? Why you looking so mad? You know, and you focus on that, but you have to train your mind that the energy that, but that's how powerful that hate is. That hate from one motherfucker is greater than a room full of motherfuckers. And you gotta know that, and you gotta know that,

and I'm not about to let this. You are my evening. These people having a great time. I'm having a good time, and all these other people having a good time, and you can go with that bullshit. I got an opportunity to see it firsthand. Ocho and I for Nightcap, we went on tour, went to Atlanta, Houston, and Dallas.

Sold out shows, the love, the respect that I received. I said, man, you know what? These few that got something to say, I ain't worried about. I'm worried about it. It's no more. It knocks that out. That love that you receive that love is real. It's powerful. It is so and it's so necessary. It is. And I want people to know that your nice comments and the stuff you say, man, for motherfuckers going through what they going through, man, that shit means something, man.

We love reading that shit. We love seeing that shit. And we love providing that, you know? It's just these negative people, man, that be on your page, you'd be like, man, I could post something and don't nobody like it. I'm gonna have 15,000 people telling me how I fucked up. I post something positive,

30 people be on that motherfucker going, congratulations. Right. You know what I mean? It's like they love the mess. You've got to understand that with the social media shit. And don't let it fuck with you. Don't let it bother you. And, you know, keep it moving. Stay prayed up and keep your business going. In the news, the last week or so these Hollywood parties they've been

going back and forth that everybody know Hollywood party are you gonna be on? What is the Hollywood? Have you been to one of these Hollywood parties? Hollywood parties? Yes. Have you been to these parties that supposedly XY and Z be going on? No, I haven't. Again I'm not invited to none of that shit. Oh no, you real slow with that. No, I ain't invited to that shit.. Oh no, you real slow with that. No, I'm serious. I ain't invited to that shit. Like, I promise you, man, all the cool motherfuckers go out. Don't nobody call me.

Don't nobody call me. Don't nobody be like, man, it'd be good to have D here. Never had that call, man. And now I'm like cool with it. At first I was like, yo, what's the problem? But I don't even worry about that shit no more I've never been I've never been a partier. I went to one party in college right so as I got older It didn't so it doesn't bother me man you such-as-such got something I'm good. Yeah, I'm good, bro

I'm working because there's nothing really I don't see how what I'm gonna benefit that party that baby see bump elbows with some celebs entertainers. But at the end of the day, I'm past that stage where going out and being at parties is a thing. It's like this, if I go out, there's a reason I'm there. If you see me there, there's a reason I'm there. Exactly. And know that.

Everything I do is purpose driven. And it's purpose driven. Now, I'll go to some small shit around LA, few people, and we'll hang out and kick it. And that's my tribe. Right. That's my love. That's my group. We in there, we kicking it.

A few people. A few people. Ain't no pictures. Ain't no few thousand yet. No, ain't no pictures. Ain't nobody standing on shit. And we all just grown, having a good motherfucking time, chilling out, you know what I mean? I'll do that in a heartbeat.

But as far as me sitting back, just partying like that, like, nah, I ain't even invited to that kind of shit. You like me, I gotta go, I mean, I gotta really trust the person, like, I know he ain't gonna have no bulljab going on. And I've been to parties, I've been to them, but you gotta go to them to find out if you want to keep going to them. You know what I mean? I've been to them, I've been I've been to parties I've been to them But you got to go to them to find out if you want to keep going right? You know what I mean?

I've been to and I've been like You know what what am I doing here? What's going on? Yeah? But it ain't for me what money did I make that I meet my wife right did I get healthier? No, all right Let me get on out of here right obviously um The PD the situation PD he was on an episode of blackish. Yeah, and P.D. situation. P.D. he was on an episode of Black-ish. Yeah. And you were there. Yeah. I mean, it's tough. Because like I said, I met the man one time standing out in front of a mall.

He dapped me off. His bodyguard dapped me up. That was it. I don't know the man. I don't know the man. And so I don't even really feel comfortable speaking on the subject. Right. Because I don't know enough about it. I read what they even really feel comfortable speaking on the subject because I don't know enough about it. I read what they put in the paper about the baby oil and all this other stuff. I saw the video with the situation that happened with Cassie and that's... But what are your thoughts?

I mean, do you have any... So I'll never kick a man right down, regardless of what he did. If it was foul, if it wasn't foul, you know, I just keep my mouth closed. I won't write no jokes about it. I won't do nothing. You know what I mean? Because I know how that feels. Whether you write or wrong, I just don't want to be in the midst of that.

You know what I mean? Why I just don't want to be in the midst of that. You know what I mean? Where I just don't do nothing. But I wrote for him, you know, the Billboard Awards when he hosted. Yeah, I was the writer for that. Right. And to be honest with you, the times that we had were some of the most inspirational moments I ever had with a guy.

I don't know how many billionaires you hang out with. No. They slide a little different. Yeah. They slide a little different, you know what I mean? And seeing how he got down was so inspirational to me that, and that shit was never happening. I mean, what not never that shit was never happening I mean what not all that shit that everybody talking about I not but I don't drink the smoke

I don't do none of that I came into care business and then they do it was out but being at the house and all of that It was never none of that. He always had profound fucking words for me, you know, like I'm in one time He was like man. Stop spending your money on so much materialistic shit. He was like, spend your money on things that free up your time. He was like, you want to be the freest motherfucker alive. He was like, spend your money on drivers, people clean your house, doing these things because the more time you have free, the more time you got to think about making money and create and create He was like so spend your money on that. He was like two hours in traffic is There's three meetings or some sleep. He was like, that's how you got to look at how to spend your money

He was like also he said a lot of people hate on him a lot But they had the same he was like, yeah, but they had the same 24 hours as he did, you know what I mean? As far as to make moves and this, which I thought was profound. It was like, right, we all had the same 24 hours, you know? He got a jet and all of that, you know? And I'm quite sure people will make jokes about this,

but I'm being, I'm being for real. Like we all have the same 24 hours. You know what I mean? What are you gonna do with your 24 hours? And how are you gonna change your family's life within the 24 hours? And that was what I took away from that, where it was like, wow, I wanna use,

I wanna change and use my 24 hours a little differently than I had before, you know what I mean? And so these are things that I, because I like to learn, You know what I mean? And so these are things that I, cause I like to learn, you know what I mean? I like to learn. I like to- Especially if I'm in the presence of somebody that I feel I can learn from.

If I look at them, I think, man. Exactly. It don't, yeah. And this is before any of that. Right. You know what I mean? This is before any of that came out. I was just like that.

So, you know, when that stuff came out, man, I just, you know, I mean, I feel for everybody involved, definitely, and, you know, prayers out to everybody, you know, and, yeah. Yeah. I read that you was at a Def Jam party, and you asked Jay-Z to take a picture with you.

And he's like, man, all these women here. Hurt my soul, Jack. Crushed me, dog. Jay-Jay. Jay jump out of a car dog me and my boy Reggie outside right we was at the Def Jam party about six SUVs pull up and we like man who's this Jay jump out he gonna walk right up to me yo how the party we like this damn it's Jay we like shit that shit poppin he was like alright shit I'll see y'all in there we like bad he going up me and my boy Red high five me y'all that's Jay y'all we going to party it's this girl I know in there like this and I see Jay over there chilling and shit everybody in

there meth red all the Def Jam artists right Jay over there chilling vibing out and I told a girl I walked up to her I was like this hey uh camera, right? I had one of them yellow boys that you, zz, zz, zz. I gave her that, right? I was like, look, I'm gonna go over to Jay, we gonna dance over here. When I get over here, I'm gonna ask her for a picture. Just have it ready and take it, because I don't want him waiting.

She was like, all right. Me and her dance over there. Me and her over there. I get over there, I was like, hey, Jay, can I get a picture? He was like, man, dog, all these holes in there and shit, hey Jay, can I get a picture? He was like, man dog, all these holes in there and shit, you wanna take a picture with a nigga?

What the fuck is wrong with you? I was like, I look at that bitch, that bitch dancing back into the U.S. You like, you right, you right, you right, you right. I was like this, I just wanted a picture. He was like, man, no, no. I said, all right, all right, thank you very much. And I left again, dawg,

and then nobody speaks to me in that party. The whole goddamn night, dawg. Y'all know what I mean? It's tough in that situation, and I'm not near, but when you go to an event like that, I mean, a lot of times, they take your phone. I mean, I've been to places where you put that phone in the zip bag.

This is early on, this is like, yeah. They put, now you go to some place like that, they put that phone in the zip bag. Oh yeah, they take your phone, sign the NDA, all of that, but no, this was like 90s, this was when Jay was like white hot, like white hot. Just like Jay was everything, you know? So yeah, back then, it wasn't like that.

Everybody had big jerseys on and pants and all of that. And yeah, it was a whole different ball game. You wrote for comedians. You wrote Ricky Smiley, The Prank, Phone Calls, Nick Cannon, you worked with Kat. When you write a joke for another comedian, how do you, cause I remember asking, I was talking to somebody and I was like,

I think it was Snoop. And I said, Dr. Dre, no. Hove wrote a song still Dre, Dre Day. He wrote that song for Dr. Dre. But you gotta write the song, knowing it's for him, but it's coming from your creativity. When you write a joke, I mean, you got to write the joke like, this joke's for Ricky,

or this joke's for Canada, this joke's for Nick Cannon. This joke ain't for Dion. How do you separate yourselves? So the majority of people that I've written for, Conan O'Brien, all these guys, I wrote for Conan for like nine years, eight years, when you're writing for these people, these people are already characters. Basically, you really don't even have to write a joke

for them, you just have to pay attention to them, because they're not paying attention to themselves. So what I like to do, I like to pay attention to them and tell them what they just said. And it's so wild, and then write it in a way that they can say it where it's them because the more you you are, the less rehearsal we gonna have. Right. So that's that's my process of writing. It's like with cat. The stuff that I wrote for cat cat didn't even use he was none of that he just I would just tell all you have to

do around cat is go here say something you something, you go, that's funny. And he'll go, huh. And then that'd be it. But you wasn't writing for Kat. You know what I mean? It was just, he'll be like, oh, oh, okay. But other people, like you, like I would write stuff depending on how they are.

You know what I mean? Like Snoop is a character. You really ain't gotta write a joke for Snoop. You just gotta have Snoop say This in a Snoop way, you know what I mean? And then you got gold, you know what I mean? So that's that's that's how it really was like right for all these people You know, it was like just looking at how they are and having them Organize what they should say in a way that they should say it. And yeah, I was always blessed to write for people like that.

Obviously, I had Cat on at the beginning of the year. Yes, you did. People still talking about that. It's now at over 76 million views. Jesus. And a lot caught a lot of criticism because of things that Cat said, and they said I should have.

I was like, when people come on, I have no idea. It's not like, let's just say for the sake of argument, I was gonna interview a political figure. I have the questions. Now I have also fact check situation. If they say X, Y, and Z, I would say, well no, this blah, blah, blah, blah. I had the president, President Trump,

or if I had VP, Madam VP, Kamala Harris, I could be able to fact check. But when I'm asking him a question, I don't know what he's gonna say. Exactly, you don't. Do you believe I bear culpability for what people say on my platform? Absolutely not.

You're providing a platform for people to talk. It's so mean, we we in the era right now, I ain't, man, I've never seen these many motherfuckers talk in my life. Motherfuckers is talking. Right. It's on everything, I mean, everything you turn on, so motherfuckers is talking.

Correct. You can't control what these people are saying, you know what I mean? But you did kick some shit off, where now everyone's gonna say anything and everything, I think, in order to like... To try to have that viral moment. To try to get that viral moment.

And you see it happening. And it's just not gonna happen. It was, what y'all had was what I like to call just a moment in time. It was a moment in time. You were very just asking questions like you would do. He answered the way that he answered. And the stuff that, that was the tripped out thing too.

The things Kat was saying, that was like, oh shit. He said it before. He said this shit a gazillion times. I don't know why that shit took off the way it did because he done said it a gazillion times. With you, I don't know why that shit took off the way it did, because he done said it a gazillion times. With you, I don't know. Everybody just, oh, you know what I mean? But I think maybe he hasn't said it in a while,

and that's what happened or whatever. But yeah, I just think the situation is just, I really don't understand that. But I don't think that you're responsible for his answers. That's foolish. I think a lot of it had to do with is that what he did was peel the scalp back, or he peeled the layer back, and let you see.

Because I didn't know that comedians, that this many comedians, that I don't like him, and he I don't like him and he don't like me and he don't like her and Bob. I didn't know. I don't think a lot of people, because I think you guys did a great job. I don't know your relationship with all the comedians. I mean, there are so many and so many good ones. Your relationship with those. But I think he peeled a layer back and let people see the underbelly of the workings of How it is in comedy and everybody ain't buddy buddy. Although look we trying to get everybody to laugh But and everybody ain't buddy buddy. I mean and and hasn't been I've it's a kind It's a few comics out there right now that it's just one comic man

I don't care what I do this motherfucker got a problem with me every goddamn time. I don't care what it to the point where I'm like, dude, what is your problem, dude? Why every time I even show up? Why do you even think I'm thinking about you? Yes. I'm not even thinking about you. But there's issues that comics have and they have their own reasons like you got comedians now that don't like younger comics because they got it so quick. You got older comics that refuse to move out the way,

that don't want to accept that, yo, they not keeping it moving no more, they not writing no more, they not doing artists and trying to blame other people. The game has changed. It's a different ballgame. But you can't be mad at them. So everybody's mad at everybody for some goddamn reason. You know what I mean?

And it's like, that's never going to change. What Kat did, he just put it out there. Whether it was true or false, he just put out what he... It was his truth. It was his truth. At the end of the day, it's nothing... Nothing more, nothing less. Nobody can, yeah, nobody can change that.

And you, all you did was ask the question. So no. You know, Cat, and I think Cat knew what he was doing, too. I knew Cat. Cat knew exactly what he was doing when he came on your show, because Cat don't do podcasts like that. No, he doesn't.

He don't. So he knew what he was doing. I've been trying to, I had been trying to line Cat up for over a year. And Cat doesn't fly. Cat took the tour bus. And he wasn't gonna be on this side of town. And I told a story that I went to my lawyer's office

on a Friday, and as the door opens up, I'm getting off, there's this young lady about to get on. She's like, hey, Shannon, how you doing? I'm like, hey, how you doing? I was like, I don't know you. She's like, you come here? I said, yeah, Marvin is my agent. She said, I didn't know that? I said, I don't know you. She's like, you come here? I said, yeah, Marvin is my agent. She said, I didn't know that.

I said, I've never seen you. I said, yeah, he's been here for like three or four years. She said, it's funny. She said, today is my last day. I said, really? I said, well, congratulations. I said, so what do you, if you don't mind me asking, what are you going to do?

She says, I'm going to be the executive assistant to Kat Williams. I said, I've going to be the executive assistant to Kat Williams. I said, I've been trying to get Kat for over a year. This was a Friday. The following Thursday, Kat's sitting in my chair. Wow, that's crazy. The following Thursday, we're doing the interview. CJ, he was my producer.

And I remember when we wrapped the interview, CJ is shaking his head. So I cover my mouth, I said, what? I'm like, did I say something? Did he say something? And he's telling me, it's gonna break the internet. We're hoping to get 10. I say, you think he'll do 10 million?

He's like, yeah, he gonna do 10. He said, nah, he's gonna do 20. I say, 20 million? I said, nobody, I said, look, only Joe Rogan is doing sit downs They get 20 million views. Nobody else. Yeah I said come on cj. He said i'm telling you shanna. He said this is going to be talked about all the 24 So we drop it that wednesday

And i'm looking and I call him I say cj, do you see how many people are watching in the chat? He said, nah, how many? I say 70,000. And then it jumps to 90, then it jumps to 110. So we get to like 130. I said, so CJ, how many do you think it's gonna do? He said, it's gonna be big. I said, CJ, really?

Ooh. Look, it got to like, we did 24 million views in like two days. Ooh. And so CJ starts looking. CJ's like, okay, the record, I mean somebody had like, Joe Rogan had two, he had one at like 40, 50 million, another at like 57, 58 million.

I said, CJ, you think we can get that? He's like, yeah, it's gonna break that. I said, come on, CJ. I said, CJ, you think we can get that? He's like, yeah, it's gonna break that. I said, come on, CJ. CJ said, yeah. Jeez. And it did 76 million views in eight months. That is crazy. I never would have imagined it.

And like I said, when he started talking, and I'm just asking, what I do, I ask you a question. I let you take as long as you want. Yeah. I don't cut you off and try to direct you somewhere else. That's why the interviews go so long, because I don't cut the guest off, because I want them to fully explain

what he or she wants to say. Yeah. And then I listen, and some of the people are like, well, Shannon shouldn't have let him say that. That's the whole objective of an interview is that you invite someone on and you let him or her say their piece. Yeah Do you think let me ask you a question since that? People that gave you opportunities and people that work with you and all of that Have you felt the shift with them?

Yeah, it happened. I mean, it changed once I did that. Like a jealousy? Yeah. Yeah. And you know what? You can feel it. You can feel it through the screen.

You can feel it. And I'm just going to not say the name. Yeah. I was surprised because a lot of people that I thought I was cool with. Yeah. I didn't say we hung out, we went to dinner together, stuff like that. But things that I never say anything about them. But what Kat did, Kat did for Club Sha Shea, what the television did for sports.

Because before the television, you could only hear it. Yeah. So baseball, somebody hit a home run, you couldn't see it. Football, you could hear the announcer call it, but you couldn't see it. Yeah. He put Club Shea Shea on the map. And we had to be taken serious.

And I remember having a conversation, I called the team, CJ, who's the EP of the show here and I are the EP of the show. And I see, CJ, I'm not going to make myself sick. This is our thriller. Yeah. Michael Jackson made himself sick trying to recreate thriller. Yeah, he did.

Bad was amazing. Invincible was unbelievable. Yeah. But it wasn't going to be thriller. It ain't going to be. And you have to be OK with that. Yeah. And I say, CJ CJ as long as we do great content The likelihood of us ever getting another video to do this is is is is Haley's continent

Yeah But I'm okay with that as long as we continue to do great content and then people start to say well He's trying to get I invite people on they, they share their story. Monique shared her story. I went back and looked afterwards, Monique has said a lot of the things that she said on my podcast, she has said it on other shows. Yeah, it's crazy.

It's the effect that you have, brother. I'm telling you, it's the effect that you have put out there that this generation has tapped into, that other people haven't. And I think that it's your demeanor, your character, and the way that you carry yourself that brings the best out of people and the vulnerable out of people. And people want to... They want to share their story. It's a safe space, you know what I mean?

And you genuine, but that's. What you provide with this is what you provide on first take and. Undisputed what I was on the show. It was always how genuine you were, you know what I mean? And you provide that now. And if you just keep doing what you're doing with that genuine shit, you can be the best motherfucker at anything you do

because it's not the thing you do, it's you doing the thing. You know what it is? Is that the one thing that I do is that before I interview anybody, I never look at previous interviews. Because when you come sit down across from me, I'm not looking at you with judgey eyes.

I have no predetermined idea who or what you are. I wanna come up here and I wanna genuinely have an authentic conversation. And that person will open up because they can look at me and say, he ain't judging me. Yeah, and you feel it. I felt the same way. Like, we didn't go over no questions and do none of that.

We sat down, it was love, and we sat down and we talked. And that was it. And feel more comfortable than a lot of interviews. You know what I mean? I honestly do, you know? You know what? Dave Chappelle, you were at the show when Dave came on stage and was responding to Cat.

Am I correct? Yeah. That was in San Jose? No, am I correct? Yeah. That was in San Jose? No, it was in the improv. Improv. Yeah, I was with him. Yeah. He felt that Kat shouldn't have said,

he shouldn't have said those secrets because other races don't share their secrets. Exactly, yeah. Kat should have gone. Go ahead. He thought Kat should have called and made a call and talked to people instead of saying what he said on your platform or whatever.

And that was his whole thing. He was like, he didn't want other races seeing us going at it like that. And so that was his whole big deal. He just felt like a conversation could have had if he really felt like that, you know? And so I felt like, no, if motherfuckers ain't calling each other and that's on his heart,

and you got a platform and he wanna talk about it, he gonna bring it out. Yeah, if you're probably, now, I don't know how a conversation, how it works in a comedic community, but if I had never talked to somebody on the telephone, the likelihood of me picking up, if I got a problem with it, picking up the phone,

ain't gonna happen to you. It ain't gonna happen. So therefore, what Dave is saying, I get it, but that never was gonna happen or would have happened. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah, so. The Netflix is a joke, Festival Brunch.

Dave Chappelle, Cat Williams, Kevin Hart, Cat left before Cat got there, I mean, Kevin got there, Tiffany Haddish, Mike Epps, L'Oreal. Did you interact with any of those? Was there any tension or did you notice anything? Oh no, no, no, we had a good time. No, we was chilling. No, there was no tension whatsoever.

We had a great time. Taking pictures and yeah, it was no beef whatsoever. Wasn't nobody on nothing or whatever. And I ain't even noticed that Kev left. Cat left. I mean, Cat left. Oh no, Cat did leave. He did leave.

Yep, because I was looking for him because I didn't see, that was the only person I didn't see was Cat. But I saw everybody else, definitely. Like right after that picture, I think he left. But my thing is, man, we got, my fuckers got too much money, too many jokes to write about, like, all this beefing back and forth. I don't know if they think this is a way to keep everybody relevant or whatever. I don't even understand what's going on myself, but to each his own, but people eating this shit up

and people think that they can keep doing it. I told some people I was coming on the show and they was like, who you gonna talk about? That's exactly what they said. They're like, who you gonna talk about? And I was like this, what the fuck you talking about? I don't have nobody talk about like that. I was like, no, not like that.

Like, no, but like that. Like, no. But that's the mentality now. The mentality is you come on club Shae Shae, who you about to diss. And it's like. I think the thing is that when you look at it, Kat shared, I mean, we've had 150 interviews. Yeah.

Kat said what he said and Monique said what she said. But we gonna go to Amber Rose. People be wildin'. You kissed Amber Rose on Blackie? I did kiss Amber Rose on Blackie. You talked it out. I sure did. And I kept fuckin' up so we can keep shootin'.

Ah! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! I fucked my lines up about 10 times. I was like, we gotta shoot this again. Come on, come here. Mm, I'm gonna give you about 10 times. I was like, we gotta shoot this again. Come on, come here. Give me some of that.

There. Man, you. Yeah, man. Come on, man. Yeah, sure did. I love that. Amber was, yeah, Amber was good people. Yeah.

Good people, yeah. You would flirt with Tracey Ellis Ross on the show? Tracey fine, man. Come on, man. Tracey fine, Jack. That's the boy. She fine, fine. But I just, I felt like I didn't want to be with her,

be with her like that, because that's royalty. That's Diana Ross' daughter. Not saying that I could have been with her. She could have been with me. I'm not saying that at all, but I did flirt with her. Definitely, but I started thinking, like, she's royalty. Diana Ross' daughter.

I'm like, she don't know how to do chores. Right. You know what I mean? She had to do chores in her life. Right. She can't do everything. She don. She had to make a sandwich. I'm going to get you out of here. I'm going to get you out of here on this one on Dion.

Jonathan Major, he, you know, he had the issue and seemingly like shout out to Tracy. I love you, babe. Everything got snatched away over John John. I mean, it's for me, the thing that I that I that I hate and then I could be wrong and maybe I'm just overreacting, but it seems like we get held to a different standard. We make a mistake and they just burn everything down to the ground. And other groups get to make a mistake and it's okay. Again, back to what we were saying earlier, we tear our own down, man, we tear him down.

And because he had a white girl, that just really made black folks go, that's what he is. That's what he is. Da da da, and it's like still and all, that was one of the greatest actors of our time. Yeah, and he was starting to blow too. Man, I worked with that man.

That man changed my way of thinking when it come to acting, on Heart of They Fall. Man, I saw this man walk around in character when the camera was off. He was walking. Man, I saw that on his days off, dog, I would see dude at the gas station in his cowboy outfit. Like, gone.

Like, what are you doing? You know what I mean? What are you doing? Like that dedicated, that dude is a motherfucker. You hear me? When it come to acting, man, he's so cold with it. And so to have someone that talented be overlooked by a situation?

It's a situation, it's something happened. I don't know why everybody want everybody to be perfect as fuck. Ain't nobody perfect. Whatever such situation happen, it happen. Okay, his mentality, his mentality. But still and all, he's still one of the greatest actors of our time, He really is.

And so I hate that that happened to him. You know what I mean? I hate that it happened to him. And again, I just hate that there's not a place where black folks can go, hey, man, I apologize, and everybody go, all right, man. OK, he's apologizing. He apologized, and this is what he

about to do for the community, for us. Right. He about to do this for the community, and we gonna be good, y'all. That's what it should always be. It should always be, hey, what you gonna do for the community or what you did or how you gonna make this better for us as a people, we bring them in

and make sure everything okay and shit, you know? And that go with anybody that do anything fucked up. That's our own, that's our people. Quit tearing motherfuckers down and getting rid of them do anything fucked up, you know, that's our own, that's our people quit tearing, quit tearing motherfuckers down and getting rid of them and don't have nobody to replace them with. Because we don't and we don't, we don't replace them with nobody, we just get rid of them. And it's like, no, everybody make mistakes.

Let them learn from their mistakes. And then we keep them on fucking moving. You can you can you can before we go you can can bad situations make a lot of things good happen. You ever order some food and they fucked your food up? They'll be like this you can keep that and we'll all your green your another one. You be like this for god damn. Yeah. I should keep fucking up. Now you got two plates. Two plates. You get what I mean? Yes. So therefore, with these fuck ups, quit looking at, oh, it's a fuck up.

Just look at it like, man, that's a fuck up. Now what good can we get out of this? Just always look at what's the good we can get out of this in any situation. And it'll work. You know? Go check his Netflix special out. OK, Mr. Dion Cold.

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