Club Shay Shay - Fat Joe Part 2

Episode Date: October 16, 2024

Fat Joe starts Part 2 by criticizing J. Cole for not responding to the beef aimed at him revolving around the Drake vs Kendrick feud, saying he would have responded himself. Joe calls DJ Khaled his an...gel, supporting Khaled's message about spreading love and positivity. Joe shares a personal story about talking his friend out of suicide after his wife cheated on him, noting that trusting in God saved the man’s life. He mentions how his friends like DJ Khaled and Pitbull often catch beef because of their association with him. Then, Joe reflects on the best and worst parts of having money. He mentions using Ozempic for diabetes, which he’s had since he was 13, and how Big Pun’s death motivated him to work out so intensely that he reversed his diabetes. Joe proudly talks about being married for 30 years, and how his wife held him down while he was in prison. He explains how they’ve stayed together through thick and thin. Joe discusses his son, who has autism and Down syndrome, and how initially he wasn’t ready to be a father. Joe calls his son his biggest blessing. Joe talks about his love for graffiti, admitting he’s “addicted” to it. He explains why he became politically active, noting how it’s alienated parts of his audience but emphasizing the importance of his work regarding issues like healthcare transparency. Joe says nobody has been to Africa more than him and shares a stressful story about an African warlord not letting him leave Angola. Joe reflects on how Atlanta has replaced New York as the capital of hip hop. He recalls almost getting into a fight with Roy Jones Jr. over his lyrics. Joe tells a wild story about nearly beating someone up with Mike Tyson and Big Pun at the craziest club in New York. As the episode draws to a close, Fat Joe talks about his close relationship with Jennifer Lopez. He declares that women in Atlanta are running hip hop. Joe reveals that Eminem once wanted him to sign him and mentions that he also missed the opportunity to sign Pitbull and Rick Ross. He explains how the Black and Brown communities can come together. The episode concludes with Fat Joe flipping the script and asking Shannon a question back. In this episode, Fat Joe offers insight, laughter, and reflection, showcasing the highs and lows of his career and personal life, leaving viewers with a deeper understanding of the legendary rapper’s journey and mindset.   #Volume See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:36 Well, the election is in the homestretch right in time for a new season of my podcast, Next Question. I'm bringing in some FOKs, friends of Katie's, to help me out like Ezra Klein, Jen Psaki, Estet Herndon, but we're also gonna have some fun thanks to some of my friends like Samantha Bee and Charlamagne the God. We're gonna take some viewer questions as well.
Starting point is 00:01:00 I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, everybody? It's Peter Schrager. We're back for the season with Peter Schrager. In each episode of this season, I'm going to empty my proverbial notebook and take you inside and behind the scenes on the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. You see, you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week, but the next week you're going to be at a bar elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about
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Starting point is 00:01:53 to the yard, if you're in that situation, they call you to the yard. So in a situation where you got a mic battle going on and somebody say, bring your mic to the studio, you got to go. Yes, sir. somebody say, bring your mic to the studio, you got to go. Yes, sir. You said you didn't like that J. Cole didn't respond. Would Joe have responded? Million percent.
Starting point is 00:02:15 A million percent. I set myself up on verses. So I did verses, I knew Jairou would win. He's my brother, I love him to death. So they was like, yo Joe, I could have picked the less opponent. Right. It was on me. So they was like, yo Joe, you super viral,
Starting point is 00:02:32 we want you to do versus. Then they told me, yo, I know I negotiated a huge bag. Right. I'm gonna be honest with you to do versus. And then Swiss B told me, whoever you pick, get the same bag that you got. Wow. So I got on the phone, called JaRu so fast,
Starting point is 00:02:48 cause that's my brother. I love JaRu to death. And I was like, yo Ja, he was like, nah, I don't want to go against you, Joe. I said, no, it ain't like, bro, you're going to get the bag. Yeah. Right? And JaRu, he got 40 number ones.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Like I knew that boy was gonna go crazy at that. But it didn't matter to me. You know, he's my brother. I wanted him to get the bag. I wanted him to get the shine. Joe, that's real. That's real talk. A whole lot of people would have done that.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Cause a lot of times I wanna be in a situation. I wanna shine. I wanna win. And you, hold on. You mean to, I would rather win than have somebody get you equal bag. Yeah, but nah, that's not me. You're real one for that. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not like that for me I wanted to see my brother come back. I wanted to get the spotlight
Starting point is 00:03:32 Why do that or why even feel good spanking up some other rapper that I knew only had two or three hits and just Start spanking them up on there. Y'all have been like, ah, this is why right, you know, it was dope It's like Fat Joe been winning for so long and then Ja Rule. And you know, it was like, it was a hype. It was a chance to get back out there. Yeah, yeah, we went back out there. Ja was doing all his hits.
Starting point is 00:03:54 And you know, every time I looked at his wife, I told her sorry, you know what I mean? Because I love Ja. I love his whole family. So, you know, to me, that's what it's about. Rawls got involved in the beef also. And I was surprised because I'm like, damn, Ross, y'all young money.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I mean, you Drake, y'all, I'm like. I can't, I never even talked to Ross about that. So I can't respond. You know what I'm saying? You know, I love Ross. I don't know, one day he gonna have to tell us what that was about. I sat down with Khaled about seven months ago,
Starting point is 00:04:30 maybe even last year, and Khaled is so positive. Khaled ain't gonna say nothing about nobody. He's like, bro, there's so much food for everybody to eat. Ain't no sense in us fighting over morsels because it's so plentiful. Where did you and Khaled get that mindset from? That you like, you know what, I ain't gotta talk about it about nobody.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Let's talk about what we can do together. Well, you know, Khaled's like an angel to me. You know what I'm saying? He's my angel and he protects me because he took me off the cliff my whole life. I could have been in jail a thousand years. I could have been fucked up. Khaled was always the last, Joe, hear me out before you go do that.
Starting point is 00:05:08 We talk to you, let me this. So he's like my angel. He been protecting me forever. Before he was as successful as he is. But he's absolutely correct. You gotta understand that, man, we ain't got no time. We got time for family. We got time for family.
Starting point is 00:05:25 We got time for love and respect. We ain't got no time to be fighting with people and doing all that. That ain't about the money. It ain't about positivity. And God has chosen us to deliver that message of believing and being faithful at all times. And so you got to understand me and Callie, we, we children of God,
Starting point is 00:05:52 and we telling everybody out there, you might've tried to rob people. You might've tried shooting people. You might've tried to this. Try God. Cause that's the real key. I'm here telling you, can you hear me? Can you feel me in real time? Try God. We God you can't lose. And if you're faithful and you show him that you believe that no matter what, no matter what hard times, somebody gets sick in your family,
Starting point is 00:06:14 divorce, this, whatever you name it, you stay loyal to God, he gonna bless you like you never saw before. I had a friend, he had a beautiful wife. They called me one day and they said, yo, can you come over to talk to him? Cause his wife left him. She cheated on him.
Starting point is 00:06:31 She left him and he gonna kill himself. And so I went over there and I talked to him. I was like, you know, I gave him the tour. Like, yo bro, you are who you are. She's cool. Let her go. You, you the man. You know, I did whatever I could, right? I seen him like a year later, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:06:49 yo, man, how you been? He was like, yo, I got a fiancé, beautiful Dominican chick. She's actually a pastor. She don't want to go out, Joe. She stays home with me. She loves life. And I looked at him, I said, yo, bro, that's God. You know what I'm saying? You wouldn't have got you a bad chick,
Starting point is 00:07:07 positive, don't want to be in the club, she's actually a pastor of a church. I'm like, yo bro, like, there's always better for you and greater for you when you trust in God. Because you and Khaled is so close, did sometimes your beef interfere with his potential collab with someone? I wouldn't say collabs, but he got caught up in the beefs.
Starting point is 00:07:33 So- The Tony Yo-Yo? The first time I, that's one. The first time, cause I had mad beef. So the first time I ever flew, I was afraid to fly. I wouldn't fly for a million dollars. It was like, yo, we want to pay you a million dollars to come to South Africa. And I was like, yo, I'm sorry, keep your money. I can't go.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I was terrified to fly. And Khaled was at a seminar in Puerto Rico, and he bumped into some guys I had beef with. And they were going to take it out on him. So the whole industry's calling me. And they're like, yo, your man out here by himself. And you know, they're going to take it out on him. So the whole industry's calling me and they're like, yo, your man out here by himself, like, and you know, they're going to do it to him. They're going to hurt him. Oh, and that's the first time I flew. I got in the private plane that went out to Puerto Rico and pulled up like, yo, what's up? And that's when it was like, yo, this guy's flying. I flew because of him, you know, because he was like, yo, they're gonna do me dirty out here.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And so I went over there and I flew over there. So it's like, he got caught up in a lot of my shit. You know what I mean? And what's crazy is he's always been positive. He's always been the same person. And then Fat Joe just been on some shit and he just always get caught up in it and be like, you know, he tell him, I had a couple of friends that, you know, pit bull one day, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:08:53 seen one of my enemies and they was like, yo, what's up? And he was like, yo, I can't say what's up, man. You got beef with the dog. All these nice guys kept catching beef over me because they was loyal to me. Norie, all of them. Like, you know, you loyal to Joe and Joe got beef with everybody. You going to the wrong club,
Starting point is 00:09:11 the guy he got beef with got 30 guys there. You not coming back telling Joe you had a drink with him. You telling Joe, yo, I said, fuck that. I'm not giving you my hand. I'm down with Joe. But guess what? All my friends are loyal to each other. We've been friends for over 20 years. We root for each other. We happy for each other. Everybody's doing great.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Like that's what it's about. At the end of the day, it's loyalty and everybody doing great financially. You name it. They all winning. Everybody's winning. Callie told a story that you had beat with 50, Yeo with 50, and Yeo within, I think it was a- This guy gets to it, right? He don't let you, he don't let you get out, right? I try to do the nice way out, yeah. Hey, Yeo went up to, I think it was a radio station, or a radio station, and he's-
Starting point is 00:09:59 You know what I say all the time? I'll trade Rich Player, my right-hand man, for Tony Yeo. I'll give Rich Player to G--hand man, for Tony Yayo. I'll give Rich Player to G-Unit, give me Tony Yayo, let him be Terrell Scott. That's one lawyer motherfucker that Tony Yayo. Oh my God! He's with his man for real, like, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:16 And I don't want to say this to you, Yayo, but you know, if we ever really had beef, we was going to go after Yayo, because he was the loudest mouth. He was the wild boy. He was the one dissing us at the highest level. And I was just like, yo, I got to get this guy right here. He's the one.
Starting point is 00:10:34 And so, yeah, Khaled was like, yo, I can't say what's up to you. Like, you know. Yeah, Khaled. I can't do it. Khaled said, I can't do it. No, I can't do it. I'm with Joe. With all the positivity and all that.
Starting point is 00:10:46 And then something really, you know it got real in there. Yeah. No, not really real. We leave it at that, but it got real. Like life or death, real. You go have to make another flight. You take another trip. Nah, but my man's was dead.
Starting point is 00:11:02 You know, it got real. Like a really, really real. Maybe Yeyo will tell the whole story, but it got really real. Right. You see guys like Scott Storch have all this money. I mean, he was as big as far as, I mean, could I think for a period of time,
Starting point is 00:11:21 he was like on the level of Dre. I mean, who? Dre, Scott Storrs. Dr. Dre? Yeah. Even bigger at one time. Yeah. And how you go through the bag like that?
Starting point is 00:11:34 We use a lot of drugs. Oh, okay. And he admits it. This ain't me talking to me on his back. Drugs fucked him up. You know what's crazy is, in this hip hop game, Fat Joe really is the dog. What I mean to tell you is, people don't disrespect me
Starting point is 00:11:53 and do crazy shit in front of me. So whenever I went to hang out with Scott Storch, because he's my brother, they wouldn't use no drugs, they wouldn't sniff no cocaine, they wouldn't do nothing. Scott Storch told me that the second I would walk out that door, a kilo of cocaine would come running through the door in the air like it was raining coke. Yo, he said, yo, I would never use drugs in front of you. He fucked up 90 million.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And he also was very generous with women. So I remember one time I walked in a strip club in Houston, and this red bone chick came up to me. She was like, your brother, your brother, she had a rock so fucking big, shit looked like this cop right here, stripping. And I said, what shit, man? Your brother gave me this. I was like, man, I was about to rob this girl, right?
Starting point is 00:12:47 I'm sitting there, I said, shit, this guy right here. And to women, he was just awfully generous. So he was buying girls, Rolls Royces, Bentley. I watched him one time buy a $2 million car. He used to have this briefcase. When Scott Storch was at his prime of crime, He used to have this briefcase when Scott Storch was at his prime of crime, he used to have a briefcase and he would have money in there, jury, weed.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And one day somebody came and he was making a beat. He really makes his beats. He's so talented, right? So man comes, he signs the check for $2 million. This shit really happened in my face. And he gives it to me, he didn't even look at it. He was like, all right, man, this, this, that. And then the dude told us like, yo, I've never seen a guy write a $2 million check and didn't
Starting point is 00:13:39 even look at you. It just, it just, and I was like, boom. And then when we went outside, it was like for a Bugatti. The first Bugatti, one of them Ferraris that you never seen in your life. Man, they didn't even look at the man, signed two million, gave it to him, came outside, the joint was there.
Starting point is 00:13:54 You talking about that level, but you gotta understand, right? I don't use drugs. Right. I never use drugs. Cause I might like it. I never use drugs. Because I might like it. I might like it. And so what I mean is Scott Storch,
Starting point is 00:14:10 he had two of the most famous women in the world at the same time. They was gonna menage him. One threw the cocaine on the girl and was like, yo, you wanna get the thing going? I mean, the most famous girls on earth. And he sniffed that cocaine off her shit. And he said the second he sniffed that,
Starting point is 00:14:30 it was never the same. He was just like, oh my God, like this is the greatest shit in the world. And he wound up fucking his whole life up with that. And sometimes when you get high, a friend of yours might have more tolerance. We call those like functioning addicts. They could get high on a friend of yours might have more tolerance. We call those like functioning addicts. They could get high on Friday and Saturday,
Starting point is 00:14:48 but Monday through Friday they working. But you might take it the wrong way. Sell all your shit and be fucked up. So you know drugs is just so powerful. It destroyed my brother, my brother that I look up to. My idol, my brother Andrew, he had the whole world in his hands. He was so smart, my brother that I look up to, my idol, my brother Andrew, he had the whole world in his hands. He was so smart, my idol.
Starting point is 00:15:09 And when I seen that he couldn't beat it, and we put him in a million rehabs and all that, I knew that we up against a deadly day. And these kids now, they taking this fentanyl. Fentanyl, you could touch it and die. You don't even gotta get high. Me and you could touch it and die. Yeah. You don't even gotta get high. That you could, me and you could touch fentanyl by mistake.
Starting point is 00:15:28 We could think it's some sugar or Splendor and die. That's how powerful that shit is. And so, you know, I would advise everybody, if you're gonna do something, smoke a little weed, drink your little liquor, but don't go there. Yeah. That's the point of no return, huh? Don't go there, man, because you might like it.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I tell people all the time, you might like the shit. Joe, is there a best and a worst thing about having money, or is it all positive? Nah, it's got to be bad. You know what I mean? See, money make people think they tough. So you got some straight suckers, they give money and all of a sudden they think they tough.
Starting point is 00:16:12 And they act, you see these movies, what the fuck? Carlitos, Wade Clinesfeld, the lawyer. Fucking Clinesfeld thought he was tough. He had money. So money gives some people big egos. Money makes people think they're better than everybody. Money makes people think they got God-like tendencies, that they are God on the earth.
Starting point is 00:16:37 And money could also do so much good. When you take care of people in the community, when you're raising money to take care of the less fortunate, when you giving back to the schools, you give back to the to the to the people, you know, and also live the life that you deserve to live. You know, my mentor, J.R. Ridinggood, taught me that financial freedom is the biggest thing you can have in the world. It gives you time with your family.
Starting point is 00:17:09 It gives you access to whatever you want to do. At the same time, why live in this world as a mediocre life when you can go for it? You know, the projects, the welfare, that's all a trap. They made that for temporary. You're going through a bad time welfare, that's all a trap. They made that for temporary. You're going through a bad time, go on there for a year, we not against you, get your shit ready, and go. See, me, I think 50, definitely Jay-Z,
Starting point is 00:17:35 we all grew up in the projects and in welfare. So the thing your grandmother used to think, I only pay $100 rent, I don't want to move. But hey, guess what? Now you can't even have a husband in the house My grandmother used to think, I only pay $100 rent. I don't want to move. But hey, guess what? Now you can't even have a husband in the house because the projects say you can't have a husband. So that destroys the family, right?
Starting point is 00:17:53 Then you're so brilliant. Think of Jay-Z. We look at this guy like billionaire, you know. This guy, if he would have played the projects in the welfare shit, we would have never knew how great he was. So they eliminate you as competition in the project and welfare system. So you gotta get yourself up out of that shit
Starting point is 00:18:16 so you can go and get whatever's destined for you. You got the name Fat Joe, cause obviously you probably was a chubby kid. Big. You ain't really fat no more, Joe. Thank God. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm trying to live, man.
Starting point is 00:18:33 It's a cold world. So I'm trying to live. I taught myself how to eat better. I used to exercise more than I do now. Because I was like 480 pounds. What? 480, bro. Big boy.
Starting point is 00:18:52 That big pump was 600. Joe, I can see if you 480. Well, I look smaller because I'm next to Big B. Yeah, but I'm saying though, Joe, if you were 6'4", 6'5"... You know, the Big Mac looks smaller next to the double whopper. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:19:06 The Big Mac looks smaller next to the double whopper. But Joe, I can see if you like six, five, six, six, six, seven, but 480 on somebody, you'll frame Joe. Shannon, let me tell you something. We used to go to the All You Can Eat. Like we almost went to jail at an All You Can Eat. We ate too much at an All You Can Eatcan-eat. I swear to God. This is a fact.
Starting point is 00:19:28 They brought the cops in. Homeboy came with the boots up to here, looked like Go-Mapai. I was like, yo. I said, yo, what's the matter? He was like, come on, bro. You ate all the crab, all the shit. Like, you gotta stop.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I said, yo, you know what? You right, because we go in there and kill them. And I don't get high, so all my guys are high. So they got the munchies, they destroying the sizzler. It's over for Coru, what the shit they got? Go to Corral. Go to Corral, it's over. Like over, we killing that shit.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Now I eat defensively. Now I stay away from the carbs, the bread, the pasta, the thing, Like everything I eat is defensive. I eat defensively, you know, trying to stick around. You wore a Halloween costume where you had a little zimpy. I was o-zimpy. Yeah. I'm on o-zimpy.
Starting point is 00:20:15 I'm diabetic, so I take o-zimpy. Well, that way you have a reason. You didn't do it just to lose weight. You did it to maintain a healthy life. No, no, that's medicine. Yeah. That's insulin. That's medicine. It's actually a medicine, Shannon. Yes, I know what it is. You know, everybody else took it to lose weight, you did it to maintain and help me up. Yeah. That's medicine. It's actually a medicine, Shannon.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yes, I know what it is. Everybody else took it to lose weight. It's a medicine to regulate my blood sugar. So I take it for that. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, yeah, yeah. I was definitely Ozempian for Hollywood. I'm proud Ozempian.
Starting point is 00:20:40 I was like this. You see me? I even had the needle on the top. Like, y'all. How long have you been a diabetic, Joe had the needle on the top, like, yo. How long have you been a diabetic, Joe? My whole life since I've been like 13. Really? Yeah, I was a diabetic since I was like 13.
Starting point is 00:20:52 When did you decide to, you know what, man? I might not make it to 20, I might not make it to 25, might not make it to 30. I did. I did get my life. But the problem was that in the hood, they never even told me that if you lose weight, the diabetes can go away.
Starting point is 00:21:08 So at one point after Pundod, I was working out two to three times. I was doing two a days, three a days. Insane working, working out. Shout out my man and my muscle connection. And so we working. Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, James BB King Miriam, Makibe I shook up the world. James Brown said said loud and I'm a kid said I'm black and I'm proud black
Starting point is 00:21:32 boxing stars and black music royalty together in the heart of Zaire, Africa three days of Music and then the boxing event what was going on in the world at the time made this fight as important that anything else is going on on the planet. My grandfather laid on the ropes and let George Foreman basically just punch himself out. Welcome to Rumble, the story of a world in transformation.
Starting point is 00:21:59 The 60s and prior to that, you couldn't call a person black. And how we arrived at this peak moment. I don't have to be what you want me to be. We all came from the continent of Africa. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, Jake Storielli here from John Boy Media. you get your podcast. We're talking about it on Wakin' Jake. So if you're a die-hard fan or looking for the latest buzz,
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Starting point is 00:23:06 You will not regret it. So new episodes Monday and Wednesday. You can watch along on the Wake and Jake YouTube channel or listen to Wake and Jake on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion and this is season four of Naked Sports where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Starting point is 00:23:29 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down to history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:23:42 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:24:00 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Picking up the tires, all the shit you doing, the crazy shit, this, this, that. And then one day I walked into the hospital
Starting point is 00:24:25 and I went to see my doctor. He was like, yo, you ain't gotta take insulin no more. I said, what? He was like, nah, you ain't got diabetes no more. You good to go. You good to go. I walked out of there so strange. I've been using insulin so long
Starting point is 00:24:41 that when I walked out of there, I was like, yo, I gotta take my insulin. He was like, nah, bro, you've been working out, you've been eating right, you've been doing the right thing, you ain't got to take that no more. And then eventually, maybe like 10 years later, he was like, all right, now you got to take a little old Zempick, you know, you ain't working out two, three times a day. So you got to, you know, regulate your sugars. Joe, you've been married almost 30 years. That ass still fat though.
Starting point is 00:25:10 That ass still fat though, boy. Let me tell you something, man. God damn. You know, when you told the story, in fact, Joe, that when you went away for the tax evasion, she held it down. And you said whatever mama want. But it always been like that, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:25:32 So, you know, when I met her, she was too beautiful to even be with Fat Fat Joe. And all her friends made fun of her. You know, and was like, what you doing with that boy? You know, cause I ain't had no money. When I met her, I had just broke up with my son's mother. She took everything. I had an apartment, but she took the pictures
Starting point is 00:25:54 of the dog, of like every bed, every couch. So when I met my wife, she walked in, it was just a mattress on the floor. Literally, the window ain't had no curtain. I met my wife, she walked in, it was just a mattress on the floor. Literally. The window ain't had no curtain, it was like a 10X robe I had, and I stapled the shit up on the window to get no shade. And so she walked in, and when she walked in,
Starting point is 00:26:18 she said, you live here? I said, man, it's a long story. I said, they used to have a leather sofa there. They had a big TV over here. The sound system was so nice of you to heard it over there. I mean, they took it all. And they left me a mattress. And she took a chance with me.
Starting point is 00:26:37 And from that point on, I knew if I make it, which I knew I was going to make it, to be honest with you, whether music, whether whatever, you know, uh Everybody who wins you could be Louie the mechanic you could be a Baker school teacher We all have this winning DNA. You have a winning DNA. You knew you was gonna make it You didn't know how you didn't know if it was football football ended You got back on that bike and said, fuck that, I'm podcasting. Yes. And you winning at this. The winning DNA is in certain people that they're going to find a way
Starting point is 00:27:11 to win no matter what. And so I give her whatever the hell she want. You know, that's her. My whole family lives like that. My whole family want for nothing. My mother's house, she got three people that worked there. She wakes up, they cook, they clean. You know, it's just, if I love you, you straight. That's just the way this works. How did you know she was the one? She was bad, man. And at that time they didn't have the BBLs. They ain't had none of that.
Starting point is 00:27:42 And she just had that whole thing. And she was beautiful. I couldn't believe. At first. And she just had that whole thing and she was beautiful. I couldn't believe, at first I thought she was the feds. She was so bad. I said, there they trying to get me. They threw the bat. They threw, you seen Ghost when he was with the feds? I thought she was a fed at first,
Starting point is 00:27:58 till I found out her father was a connect. Right. He was a D-boy. So when I met him, I said, him I saw no no she ain't the fans But uh, you know, I think you always tell yourself, you know Who's the one and you say no matter what we're gonna figure this out Do dick and dick cuz we have moments where I thought I was the Ellis we have moments where she thought she was the Ellis You know everybody coming at you, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:25 I become a famous, you know, famous and rich, you know. And so women that beyond your wildest dreams is throwing themselves at you. You know, and they telling you, yo, get rid of her. Like, you know, me and you, we could be the J and Beyonce. We could be the JLo and the, and Ben. YeahLo and Ben. Imagine you got with me, Poppy, we make a movie on that red carpet and I'll be like, nah, you know what, I'm all right. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:28:54 We make our own movies. Don't worry about that. I don't need that fake shit. You know what I'm saying? And so, you know, you got to be careful. Your son has autism. Yeah, Down syndrome and autism, yes, sir. Little Joey, when he was born, first of all,
Starting point is 00:29:18 me and his mother wasn't together. Okay. We were together, broke up. I knew I did not want to be with this woman. Mm-hmm. It's before rap I'm at my mother's house is one of them rainy days them days that you know It's rainy and she walked in the building. I said fuck it. Let's we can do our old flame She gets pregnant with no disrespect because I love my son Joey right let her know I do not want to be with you disrespect because I love my son Joey. Right. Let her know I do not want to be with you.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Maybe we should have this abortion because I don't want to shoot all this my baby. I got to have it. This you know is really up to the one. So she pretty much forces me to have this baby. I'm only like 19. And when he's born the doctor tells us hey I got bad news to tell you show us his hands as we say he got Down syndrome. He's going to be a big challenge. I'm there with my mother, my father, and his mother. And his mother was like, yo, I can't do this. I'm going to have to give him up for adoption. And my mother was like, you crazy bitch. Like, you ain't giving up my fucking life. And so we raised him. And he's had his challenges. But you see, my son, I don't know if all kids that are autistic or on the on the spectrum, this guy's happy. I swear to God, he's always happy.
Starting point is 00:30:35 He's never sad. He's like, if you're stuck in a place, he's stuck in happiness. And he's never slept one minute of his life without somebody sitting there just looking at him. He doesn't sleep without one person, without someone sitting there looking at him like this, his whole life. And he's happy, he does what he want, he gets what he wants.
Starting point is 00:30:57 He's the Don, but we all meet as family. I got another son, I got my daughter that's younger than him and he sits in the end of the table, he knows, oh those are my little brothers and sisters, you know, I'm the Don. And so, yeah, everybody has big challenges, it's hard, but you can't give up on your kids. And I believe, we believe, you know, one of my best friends, Rich,
Starting point is 00:31:21 that he's our biggest blessing. Because we treat him the way we do because we never gave up on him this is why we get blessed and so I really wholeheartedly believe that. Prior to him actually being born you had no idea that he would he would be autistic or he would have Down syndrome because now they can do probably a long time ago they can do tests now and they can tell you the child is going to be xyz Yo, bro, I I I've never seen his mother again is what i'm trying to tell you is that so she's born. Yeah
Starting point is 00:31:53 She never visited him again. I'm not here to to to to Kick it was you know Right never she abandoned a kid Yeah, and so we raised him by ourselves. He don't know no other family She abandoned a kid. Yeah. And so we raised him by ourselves. He don't know no other family. He don't know, it's not, cause we didn't allow that.
Starting point is 00:32:11 His mom's just, you know, is crazy. Has she ever called, dropped off a birthday gift? I'm sure she's called my mother or my father, but that's as far as it goes. She has never seen him again. And it wasn't like I kept the door closed where she can't see her son. Right. You know what I'm saying? It was always available for her to see her son. But you know, we got
Starting point is 00:32:33 wicked people out there, whether man or female, you know, it's usually the other way around. You know, baby come out down syndrome, the man run away. You know, shame on you. You know, father's got to be a father. You know, father's gotta be a father. I don't know how to be a fake father. I don't know how to be a fake father. So I gotta take care of my kids regardless and do everything I can for them.
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Starting point is 00:34:00 yours now. Some biological weapon. And they put this into Dom's hands too? What do you want us to do about it? Protect us. Pre-order the Vault Edition now. Okay, now we have a custom segment question in partnership with our good friends at Call of Duty Black Ops 6. Joe, let me ask you this, what task in life would you want to call your replacement in for? Is there something you really like doing? Something I really like doing? Yes, really, really. I grew up, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:36 Terror Squad wasn't a gang, it was a graffiti crew. So I love writing graffiti. Oh. And so I wish that I could write on all the trains and not go to jail for it. So if I'm on the call of duty, I'm the guy writing the graffiti, but I never want to go to jail for it. So Shannon, something I really love to do is write graffiti. And if I could write graffiti on the train, like a challenge, if you ever see Fat Joe get arrested,
Starting point is 00:35:04 it's probably here to train in New York or something. Like I battle with it. Like I look at the trains, I be like, damn, I want to hit that. You know, it's an addiction. They couldn't catch you now, Joe. You done slay them now. You take out real-
Starting point is 00:35:15 Nah, I get up, I pay everybody. Cop catch me, I be like, yo, take this, man. Leave me alone. You ain't see me. Nah, it's crazy. Joe, I've noticed over the last, and maybe you were behind the scenes, but over the last, let's just say, five, six, eight years, you've become more active
Starting point is 00:35:33 in the front politically. I see you are with VP, Madam VP, Kamala Harris, and for health care transparency, you're a big advocate of that. What made you decide to like, you know what? I'm gonna get out there. Cause a lot of people shy away from that because there are a lot of people-
Starting point is 00:35:53 I don't blame them. It's hard for a celebrity. I never understood why celebrities never speak their mind. But now I do. Because you alienate, you know, the minute I go on for Kamela Harris or everybody who loves Trump is like fuck you fat Joe, this, this, that. No, it's real like that.
Starting point is 00:36:12 And so vice versa. If you for Trump, we hate you. So with me, healthcare price transparency, I got a friend named Kevin Moore with Power to the Patients. He sat me down and tell me what was going on in America. There's over 100 million people in America that are bankrupt due to healthcare prices.
Starting point is 00:36:37 It's the only thing. You see this bottle, if I went to the liquor store, it would be $90. This glass of water would be $2, $3. You go to the hospital, it's the only place on earth they don't give you a bill. They just don't give you, have you ever went to the hospital and you knew the bill?
Starting point is 00:36:57 No. They sent it to you. They sent it to you. So guess what? You that day did a procedure that five other people did and the price was different for all five people Somebody paid sixteen thousand somebody paid twelve thousand somebody paid ten somebody paid two Somebody same doctors same facility same surgery. They charge you whatever the hell they want And so we just say show us the prices. What will the prices do?
Starting point is 00:37:23 And so we just say, show us the prices. What will the prices do? Well, it will enable you to know where you could go to get it cheaper. Am I going to Beth Israel? Or am I going to General Hospital? Or am I going, I'm going wherever the MRI is, 1,200 instead of 12,000. Correct.
Starting point is 00:37:38 And so I became a big voice for that, which has been a hard thing to do because we keep going to Washington and trying to get it done. And it's been the hardest thing. It's been one of the biggest challenges of my life. But I love it. When I walk through the airport, random people come up to me and say, yo, Joe, thank you
Starting point is 00:37:56 what you're doing. And I'm like thinking about music or whatever. And he's like, nah, man, the biggest thing you're doing is fighting for the people with the health care price transparency. So I'm proud of what I'm doing, my work I'm doing. What's Fat Joe most proud of? Of all the things that you've done in your life, you've been a husband, you've been a father,
Starting point is 00:38:14 you've accomplished so much. What's some of the things Fat Joe's most proud of? I just wanna make my people proud. And I'm really black and brown. And so I love white people. I have beautiful white friends, but I'm really all about the black and brown. I got a TV show on stars, where LeBron James is executive producer at Maverick, black and brown. I just sold the series with me, Kenya Barris and
Starting point is 00:38:42 Jesse and Yuli Terrero, black and brown. everything I do is with the black and brown is showing that We could unite together and really do it not just talk about it, right? But do it also Just want to make my community proud and know that somebody could come from the trenches like I came from and Actually lift themselves up and be successful Also at this point we playing with ageism. With this point, we saying, yo, I'm getting to the bag better than ever, and I'm older than ever.
Starting point is 00:39:12 You know, I'm hosting the BET or Hip Hop Awards right now. I'm relevant. I got a song out blowing up. I'm this, this, this. So I'm just letting you know that at any choice in life that you choose to say, I'ma get on my shit and I'ma go get my bag, you could get it too. That's what I'm most proud of.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Joe, were you kidnapped in Africa? Was that- Yes sir, yes sir. Yes sir. How about you had to give a friend- Nobody been to Africa more than Fat Joe, nobody. And you keep going back? Nobody, yeah I kept going back? Nobody.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Yeah, I kept going back. But that was just one part. It was in, and I love you guys, Luanda, Angola, Africa. They had this warlord, his name was Rukino. Rukino, when the world, when they stopped fighting the civil war, they made him the leader of tourism. So it's his job to bring people to Angola. We don't know none of that shit.
Starting point is 00:40:06 We get hired to go do a show for the most money I ever made in my life. I go over there, the man don't let us leave. So we supposed to go for one show. We stuck over there for like two weeks. And this guy is so scary. They won't look him in his eyes. When they serve him, they go like this. the people there know who the hell he is. So what a week later the
Starting point is 00:40:32 The embassy or the CIA or whoever you call is sitting there because you eat and they got one good hotel Right. And so you eat like buffet staff, right? So they come over and they you know, they do you know they the feds you look and they look different. They this and this and that. So they come over and give me a card. And they're like, yo, you are. And I said, yeah, my wife, it was like, you know, you with right. They say this guy just kidnapped DMX to This guy kidnapped people. You were the scary guy. I said, I'm figuring it out. He said, you call this number anytime.
Starting point is 00:41:09 We'll come pick you up at the parking garage and go. And I'm like, you know, I'm too tough about it. So I ain't wanna let them know, yo, I'm really- I'm ready to go now. I'm really fucking kidnapped now. Like this guy's playing with me. Like, you know what I'm saying? And I'm tough.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Shannon, I'm not scared of no Shannon. I'm not scared of no man I'm not scared of no man. I'm scared of God right just don't know how to be scared of a man You're gonna kill me kill me you gonna beat me up beat me up, so I had that Bust the rounds was in that yo Like yo this guy's talking to me like that. I'm like, yo, Buss, this guy, you know, this guy kill people out here. We over here, man, we can't just chill, take it easy, Buss. Cause Buss is one of them like, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:54 Buss is a nice guy, but he bug out. You know what I mean? So I'm talking to him off the cliff, like, yo, Buss, like chill, like, you know, we could disappear in this motherfucker, never make it back. So how did you so he let you go? We eventually yeah he let us go like that's real talk like we eventually like two weeks later he let us go and we finally went home and I made more money than I ever made in my life but it was real stressful
Starting point is 00:42:19 really really stressful. Has Atlanta replaced New York, the hip hop capital? We got y'all joking. It's a big um we got y'all joking. I ain't gonna say nothing. I've always been a supporter of Atlanta. You know 20 years ago I moved down to Miami and set up shop and I always debate whether it should have been Atlanta because I love the ATL and all their contributions. Rest in peace Rico Way from Goody Mob up to Outkast up to the TIs, the Jeezy's. Atlanta been running. Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, James Brown, BB King, Miriam Mekiba. I shook up the world.
Starting point is 00:43:10 James Brown said, said love. And Mekia said, I'm black and I'm proud. Black boxing stars and black music royalty together in the heart of Zaire, Africa. Three days of music and then the boxing event. What was going on in the world at the time made this fight as important as anything else is going on on the planet. My grandfather laid on the ropes and let George Foreman basically just punch himself out. Welcome to Rumble, the story of a world in transformation. The 60s and prior to that you couldn't call a person black. And how we arrived at this peak moment.
Starting point is 00:43:47 I don't have to be what you want me to be. We all came from the continent of Africa. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Whatever's hot in the street, we're talking about it on Wakin' Jake. So if you're a die-hard fan or looking for the latest buzz, we've got you covered. No matter your favorite sport, we're breaking it down with the passion that'll make you feel like you're in the stands with us. Plus, we've got a bunch of guests.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Foolish Bailey, Jolly Olive, Chris Rose, and more. Mock drafts, rankings, whatever you want. It's the sports world, and come on and join our friends in the Wake and Jake family. You will not regret it. So new episodes Monday and Wednesday. You can watch along on the Wake and Jake YouTube channel or listen to Wake and Jake on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I'm Kari Champion, and this is season 4 of naked sports where we live at the intersection of sports and culture up first I explore the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I put out a history people are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game every great player needs a foil I hear them why is that just from your play basketball or single day and that's what I focus on from college to the pros, Clark and Reese
Starting point is 00:45:26 have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas
Starting point is 00:45:45 be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In hip hop.
Starting point is 00:46:02 For the last 10 years. So, man, that's hard for me to say is they the capital But they've been running it for the last ten years. I'll give you that one. I Read you was about to get in a fight with Roy Jones, Jr. Oh, yeah, you knew that story, right? Yeah, no, what happens? You know, I put him on a song where I say even Roy Jones was forced to lean back That's right after he got Knocked out and Tony your Tarbell, huh? Yeah, and so he came to New York City and We was having JaRu's release party was thousands. I had a hundred fifty guys would be Shannon
Starting point is 00:46:40 like I'm gonna be honest with you and I come off stage and then, and, and, and when I open the thing, he's standing there. But nobody see him. He's there with like eight guys. He got the one guy Chopper Style, Chop, Chop, Chop, Chopper Style. So Chopper Style is telling him, knock him out, champ. Knock him out, champ. Like, you know, he's, he's his flavor flame.
Starting point is 00:47:04 He's the hype man. He's an hype man, you know? He's an hype man like a motherfucker. So the minute I see his Roy Jones, I grab his wrist. I grab his wrist, you know, and I'm up on him. I actually got my feet on his feet. You know, I know how to fight, but he was gonna knock me out. He's a champ.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Yeah. But I know how to fight. So I grab his wrist so he don't boom, bing real quick. And then my weight is on his feet. And so I'm like on him like this. And he's like, yo, what's up with that song? This is that.
Starting point is 00:47:33 He got the devil in his eyes. He came there for one and one reason only. He was gonna knock Fat Joe out in New York. Right? No, it wouldn't. No, it wouldn't. No No it wouldn't. No it wouldn't. No it wouldn't. But I gotta get out of this situation.
Starting point is 00:47:50 So I'm like, yo champ, yo champ, that's just music champ. I'm trying to sweet talk him, chop his styles. Like give it to him, champ. Knock him out, put him off the game. I'm like looking at him like, oh my God, like this guy. And then I eventually started feeling, I just told you right now, I'm scared of no man.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I started feeling like a sucker in a way because I'm holding his hands, I'm begging him not to knock me out, right? And then I let go. And I had to tell him, I said, yo, champ, you see those guys? It's 150 guys, Channing. I said, you're the champ, you're gonna knock me out.
Starting point is 00:48:33 But these guys, they're not gonna fight you, Champ. They gonna do you dirty. Yeah, they gonna lay you down. He looked at them, he said, they with you? I said, yeah, they with me. And then he just disappeared. He looked at them. He said, they with you? I said, yeah, they with me. And then he just disappeared. He's like, it's just music? I said, yes, it's just music, champ. And he disappeared. When he disappeared, they all ran up. Yo, that was Jory Jones? I was like, nah, nah, nah, he's good. Nah, nah, nah, nah, what's up? What's up? I was like, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 00:49:03 At that moment, I was praying for Roy Jones, huh? Oh, yeah. I was like, Jesus, nah, nah, nah. Woo, at that moment I was praying for Roy Jones. Oh yeah, I was like, Jesus Christ, I hope these guys, you know, and the next day we got on the phone, it was me, him, and Jay Prince. And Jay Prince told him, like, yo, you buggin' out. Like, you went to New York, and then we squashed. I seen him like a week later, it was Super Bowl, Jacksonville, and we drank together, we hung out,
Starting point is 00:49:26 you know what I'm saying? We had a great time, I love Roy Jones, but I gotta respect him, he's the last American who came to knock me out on this earth, you know what I'm saying? Came to knock me out, for sure. And then Mike Tyson, you and Mike Tyson was gonna beat up somebody.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Well, that's an iller story. You know, Big Pong was crazy, rest in peace. He was like a wild boy. So we did a show, we had 50 guys with us. He tells me, yo, send them all home. Let's go to the tunnel, just me and you. Now the tunnel was a club in New York where you couldn't be in there if you wasn't dangerous.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Right. This was- Two bullet minimum, huh? Yeah, yeah, two bullet minimum. And it was the wildest spot New York had ever seen, right? Their bouncers make you look like a baby. These guys would jump off the roof like these was Transformers, right?
Starting point is 00:50:18 Right. Ninja Turtles. So we get there and they tell him, Pun, this is Pun at his prime. He's sold two million records. They tell him he got to take his boots off. Now I just told you, Pun was like 580 pounds. He couldn't really take his boots off like this.
Starting point is 00:50:32 He was like, nah. But in there, people used to sneak in knives and guns and they shit. So they was like, nah, you got to take it off. So it's like 10 securities. So Pun is arguing with this one dude, then it turns to two dudes, then it turns to three dudes, then it turns to four dudes, and I'm arguing back with them too. So I'm with pun like, so they say something,
Starting point is 00:50:52 I'm like fuck you, and pun's saying fuck your mother, like it's just nasty work. So I grabbed, because I'm always realistic, I grabbed pun at one time, and I said, yo pun, you know we getting our ass whooped in here. Like these motherfuckers was huge. He said, yo, we got straps in the car. I said, we ain't getting to the car Pun.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Like, Scott's is big motherfuckers, right? So Pun was like, fuck you, suck my, he wanted it, right? So I'm like, all right, fuck it. I know how to catch a ass whooping. You know, you gotta give a guy credit I know how to catch your ass with it. You know, you gotta give a guy credit for knowing how to take your ass with it. You know, staying with your man to get your ass with it.
Starting point is 00:51:31 That's another level, huh, yeah? To get your ass with with your man, that's honorable thing. Right, so I'm like, okay, we getting fucked up, right? We just gonna talk all the shit we want. So now, out of the 10, it's like eight of them. Right. And out of nowhere you hear a voice like, yo, Pon, yo, Joe, fuck these niggas.
Starting point is 00:51:51 We turn around, it's Iron Mike Tyson. This is like two in the morning with the fucking Kufi on. He had a suit on and he starts taking off his Gucci loafers. Fuck these niggas, we'll fuck them up, on this, this, that, boom. Next thing you know, Mike Tyson, the main one that started, Mike Tyson starts chasing them around the car, trying to fuck them up barefoot.
Starting point is 00:52:15 And the security looks at me, Joe, Joe, stop him, Joe, stop him, they ain't want the man's with that. Mike Tyson might have came out of jail one week. Like this was him came out of jail one week. Yeah. Like this was him fresh out of jail. Right out of Indiana with the kufi Muslim Mike Tyson. Man, that shit was crazy. You surprised Ashanti and Nelly at a baby shower.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Yeah. You and Ashanti go way back. Y'all been cool from the longest. And if I'm not mistaken, I think Irv had something to say about you because he kept going back and forth talking about, you know, her that was 20, 30 years ago. And you like, bro, let it go, blah, blah, blah. She's done moved on so forth and so on. What has Ashanti meant to Joe? Man, she's been there for me, bro, for over 20 something years. Irv been there for me too.
Starting point is 00:53:02 for over 20 something years. Irv been there for me too. So, you know, looking back at the story, I think I should have just not went on Instagram and called him like a brother on the phone and just been like, you know, my man, you wildin' out. Right. Right? But with that, Irv got his, you know, he is who he is and he thinks of the world different way than I do. I said sorry to him a million times in his family. His family loves me
Starting point is 00:53:29 I hang out with his brothers and sisters all the time his nieces, but you know, he still got an attitude with me But Ashanti she's been my sister through thick and thin. I don't know how to explain it to you And I'm proud of her seeing a baby a baby so beautiful Her baby is, he might be the most beautiful baby in the world. I swear to God, he got hair. Wait till they show the baby. The Nelly and Charm T baby is a movie. This guy, he look like Muhammad Ali. Beautiful. Head full of hair.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Oh, this baby's amazing. And so I'm proud of her. Her family, she's always been a sister. Same with Remy. That's my sister. I got them both to the day I died. You know what I'm proud of her, her family. She's always been a sister. Same with Remy. That's my sister. I got them both to the day I die. You know what I'm saying? And that's just that. I love them both as my sisters and I'ma hold them down to the day I die.
Starting point is 00:54:17 JLo. Same there. JLo holds me down. Right. You know what I'm saying? So JLo's a boss. Like JLo's on, you know, she's on another level. And that's my sister too.
Starting point is 00:54:30 You know, I love JLo to death, you know. And I'm just proud of everything she's done. I'm going to get you out of here on this one. The females seem to have gotten into the rap beat. I can't explain it. Maybe you can because you come from that environment, you in that culture and you see it. But when you see like, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:54:52 what are y'all beefing for? We went through a time of hip hop recently in the last two, three years where the women, you asked me if Atlanta run the hip hop, the women run the hip hop. And they all start, and they got so tough. So think of one of the greatest records in the world was doing it and doing it well, LL, right?
Starting point is 00:55:15 And he's like, you know, do you like it soft and wet? How you, you know, he talking to the women, she talking back. They start making new love songs with the female rappers and she like, put your gun on the motherfucking hosta, bitch you fuck me like that. And I'm like, yo, what the fuck is going on? I'm like, is this a love song?
Starting point is 00:55:34 Am I lying or not? You fuck me, you pissed with me while you hitting, I'll kill you. I'm like, yo, what the fuck is going on with the women? But you know, I'm one guy that I'm for the women's rights. I'm for the women to do whatever they wanna do, how they wanna make the music. If it's lyrics, same thing as guys,
Starting point is 00:56:00 a good rap battle's a good rap battle. If it doesn't become physical, because everybody got brothers, everybody got husbands or boyfriends that think they tough. You know, this business of hip hop, you don't need a PhD or a master. You need a fucking paperwork that says you did 10 years in jail, and now you're hired.
Starting point is 00:56:22 You did a bid, huh? You got a bunch of crazy dudes with everybody in this motherfucker, you know, and if they influence you, they can fuck your whole shit up. So once again, I think the biggest part of this whole interview with me and you is if you're an artist and you out there and you're changing your life, check your crew
Starting point is 00:56:41 and make sure they don't bring you down because it's not gonna be you. You trying to become the biggest artist in the game. You trying to become the next 50 Cent Jay-Z. You trying to this. If your crew don't share the same vision and they ready to throw it all the way and say, yo, fuck that, we the realest in this and this.
Starting point is 00:57:00 That ain't what you got in the game for. I read Em wanted you to sign him. Yeah. Yeah. Eminem, he gave me his demo like six times. What? Yeah, I fucked up big time. Yeah, you... Biggest mistake in hip-hop history, Fat Joe,
Starting point is 00:57:16 not signing Eminem. Uh, of course, you know, now I look up to him. You know what I'm saying? So that was a big mistake. I could have signed Pitbull. I look up to him. You know what I'm saying? So that was a big mistake. I could have signed Pit Bull. I could have signed Ross. I could have signed. Damn Joe, you slipping. Yeah, I slipped.
Starting point is 00:57:32 I slipped. I could have signed a lot of guys in the game that I was just like, probably wasn't ready at the time or wasn't focused like I should be. You know, cause I'm an artist too. So at the same time, I might've been in artist mode, you know, thinking creatively, thinking about my career. Joe, I think you're the perfect person to ask this
Starting point is 00:57:54 because you spend so much of your time with black and brown people. How can the black community and the Latino community, how can we come together Joe? Well, we are together in the East. In the Latino community, how can we come together, Joe? Well, we are together in the East. In the East, we are together. But the thing is, you gotta realize that we are both oppressed communities.
Starting point is 00:58:15 We're both going through the same shit. When Big Pun made the record, Boyle, Dekwa, Morda and I, we came out the gate letting everybody know the black and brown unity. But you got guys like Fat Joe, who is for black and brown unity, as an example. More of us do that together and realize that if we learned how to vote the same way, if we learned how to stand up for each other the same way, We'll be the most powerful voice and force in America. And so the politicians in all of them
Starting point is 00:58:49 will have to listen to us and treat us different. And that's the main thing that people gotta really realize. It ain't blacks against Latinos, Latinos against blacks. We're supposed to be together. We've always been together. Where I'm from, we always been together. Yeah. We shouldn't be against each other. We should be against the problem. So whatever the problem is-
Starting point is 00:59:12 Well, together- Yes, us. We form Voltron. Right. And we outnumber everybody else. So if we all, you know, I always look at that scene from the movie Malcolm X Spiked did, where he came out to the precinct and he went and everybody turned. Imagine we could do that together. We'd be the most powerful people in America. Make sure you guys
Starting point is 00:59:36 check out Fat Joe's Talk with exclusively produced by LeBron James and Maverick Carter and his own stars right now. Also you have a new album dropping. The world changed on me. Now, I'm a talk show host myself. I gotta ask you one question. Sure. How has the world changed on you? I think you know, Joe.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Ah! I think you know. The fucking world has changed on us, huh? Mm-hmm. So the only way to be is be normal. It's possible. And fly under the radar normal. And so the album's amazing.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Got a bunch of my friends on there. Produced, executive produced by Cool and Dre and myself. And it's just a vibe. Right now it ain't about making money off the music. I have a single out there called Paradise with Anita. She's the biggest out there from Brazil. And DJ Khaled produced it. But the album's going to be incredible.
Starting point is 01:00:35 It's just for guys like you that love hip hop, that you're going to throw it on while you work out. And you're going to be like, man, this shit is mean. TV show, the talk show, is all positivity. No negativity. We got everybody from LL Cool J to T.I. Lotto to whoever the biggest, the giants, the greats. And we're just talking about positivity. Your struggles, everything you've been through.
Starting point is 01:00:57 And just once again, we want to inspire the young black and brown youth and everybody else who watches the show and who cares about the culture, how to uplift themselves and hear something they got to hear. Bad joke, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, that was dope, man. Appreciate you, bro.
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