Club Shay Shay - Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Episode Date: September 29, 2020

Episode 2 of Club Shay Shay features Shannon's first ever taped conversation with boxing legend Floyd Mayweather Jr.Shannon & Floyd delve deep into Floyd’s historic 50-0 boxing career, from his 1996 Olympic Bronze medal to his 2017 win over Conor McGregor, and the fights along the way that led him to become “arguably the most accomplished boxer of all time.”Floyd discusses the struggles he faced growing up in poverty, and how his drive and will to win in the face of adversity and racial injustice led him to greatness.  He also touches on how starting his own promotional company helped him achieve independent financial success, his personal and professional relationships with his father, Floyd Mayweather Sr., his favorite boxers of all time, how he would have fought Sugar Ray Leonard, and much more.#DoSomethinB4TwoSomethin & Follow Club Shay Shay:                                                                 https://www.instagram.com/clubshayshayhttps://twitter.com/clubshayshayhttps://www.facebook.com/clubshayshayhttps://www.youtube.com/c/clubshayshay Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm your host, Unc Sharp. And look who dropped by the club today. Just the one and only, Floyd Money Mayweather, TBE. Floyd, how are you doing? Oh, man, I'm doing great. You know, just, you know, in this pandemic and in this, it's crazy, everything going on, but I'm just spending time with family, you know, taking one day at a time.

That's the only thing I really can do just, but you know, what I'm doing actually is I'm working with fighters every day, you know, I'm on my way to the gym. And, you know, after we get finished talking, on my way to the gym, I'm working with a lot of young fighters, of course, Javonte Tank Davis, he's fighting on pay-per-view. So hopefully he does great numbers, but I'm working, you know, every day.

Floyd, you mentioned this pandemic, but I want to take the time to offer you my condolences. You lost a mother, your kids, you lost your uncle, your trainer, a friend, a father figure, and your Roger Mayweather. So I want to send condolences out to you and your family for your losses. Thank you. I mean, it's been difficult. You know, you hear a lot of different things. You know, just about when you're at a certain level, you hear different things about people's personal life. You know, if I wasn't a huge

name or a huge figure, you would never hear anything. So I mean, she was a great mother great person and um someday we'll see each other again and my uncle roger great man great trainer um the will to win just in life period and so um things happen in life you know uh when i tell my children as well as people around me uh dying as a part of life right so you know we have to enjoy uh every second that we're on this earth and cherish every second that we're on this earth you mentioned that you're you're working with fighters i've seen you upload uh things on your ig account that you're working with your son you're working with your nephew um and some of the fighters that you're working with fighters. I've seen you upload things on your IG account that you're working with your son, you're working with your nephew. And some of the fighters, when you're an all-time great, and I say this in my sport, Floyd,

normally the greater the player is, the harder it is for him to coach because he thinks everything is easy because everything came easy. How difficult is it for you to train people when you're arguably the greatest fighter of all time? Well, what I teach my son is this. What I'll be teaching my son is how to protect himself and protect his family, just in case anything happens in my life. I'm no longer here. You still have to be the man in your home and know how to protect your loved ones. So that's why I try to teach my children, my two boys, as well as my daughters. It's about protection. Not to go out and start any trouble or start any problems, but you have to protect yourself and protect your family. Just hypothetically say something happens down the line and far as

just um working with fighters far as a lot of times i like to say well a great a great athlete can't be a great trainer right um i just try to be the best that i can possibly be right um i'm not looking forward to a fighter being a Floyd Mayweather. Hopefully we can find the next Floyd Mayweather and hopefully we can do record-breaking numbers as far as pay-per-view. But everything takes time. I'm going to continue to go

out there and give back to the sport of boxing. Day in and day out, I work with these fighters. So you're not teaching your son to per se go into the sport you're teaching him how to be able to protect himself if that situation should arise absolutely that's what i try to do just teach them how to protect themselves um hold down the fort as far as the house um you know their own own home. Right. Protect their family, which someday they will have a family. And you have to be the man of your home in order to protect your family.

So are you still in the gym? Because I remember you saying that when you were actually fighting, when you were active, you were training three times a day. So how active are you now? Are you training or do you just go, or as I say, work out? Well, actually, it's crazy. As of lately, I've been running. I've been, you know, when I was fighting, when I was competing,

I was running miles. As now, I just run for time. I run between 30 minutes and one hour. It already depends on how I feel, you know, that particular day. Running, I'm also, every once in a while, I hit the heavy bag and the gym jump rope. I'm doing push-ups and sit-ups on the regular just for myself. You know, I truly believe that your health is your wealth. So you don't want to make,

you know, make a fortune in the sport and let yourself get out of shape. So I try to work out just for myself. So when I go on the beach and if I go out by the pool, I want to make sure I can take my shirt off just for myself. Right. So when I look at you and I watch you fight, it's not like you have to do like a lot of fighters because a lot of fighters have to drop 25, 30 pounds.

You're a guy that seemingly only have to drop like 10 pounds because you're so close to your fighting weight all the time. So you don't have to kill yourself to get in shape in say a six or eight week training camp well you know it's crazy because i was fighting i was world champion i was world champion at five different weight classes correct but i when i was competing at the highest level it was mainly probably at 147 as well as one fighting at 147 as well as 154 right so right now i wait you know i keep my weight around uh between i say 155 150 go up and down i try to keep my weight around 150 155 if i go up a little bit higher uh then you know know, I push myself a little bit more. You know, it's just the discipline for myself.

I do it for myself. Right. So, in other words, you're fighting at, you know, welterweight 147. I'm fighting at welterweight, even when I was fighting at 154. Right. I was always walking around at 150, 152. Right. Always.

So, that's like middleweight, correct? Well, super welterweight, Always. So that's like middleweight, correct? Well, super waterweight and junior middleweight is the same weight class. Oh, okay. Because you're right above waterweight. Right. Because waterweight is 147. Correct. If you're above waterweight, you're a super waterweight.

And if you're under junior middleweight, because middleweight is 160, if you're under middleweight, it's junior middleweight. So anytime you hear super or junior, it's the same weight class. I appreciate that. Appreciate the education. So you stay within striking distance. Are you telling us something? Are you trying to get ready for something because you say you're running 30 minutes to an hour? Well, I don't really know at this particular time. Right. But I get calls all the time. Right.

I get calls about doing exhibitions. And, you know, I've seen something. Somebody has sent something, you know, somebody from my staff has sent me something about what I said about being a pioneer of exhibitions. Correct. I don't want to say I'm a pioneer of exhibitions. Correct. I don't want to say I'm the pioneer of exhibitions. Okay. But what I want to say is, as far as the pioneer for getting crazy money for exhibitions.

Right. That's safe to say. You know, to be able to make, I just got a number thrown at me not too long ago to do an exhibition. We talk about, you know, my number, it varies. It goes up and down. Whereas for some exhibitions, I make $10 million, you know,

and some go all the way up to $70 million. So that's not a bad thing. And I talked about this with Fat Joe. It's crazy, and I talked about this a few times. It's crazy. And I talked about this a few times. It's crazy that, like us, you know, like you, I mean, say if I no longer, I'm no longer competing in the ring. Right. No longer fighting. But it's okay for me to still pick up, if I go make a quick appearance overseas it's okay for me to make 350 000

it's okay i mean i said the waltons is still making money from walmart correct bill gates is still making money yep it's still making money yes it's still making money. Yes. It's still making money. Right. I go out and do a little sparring or, you know, make appearances or make a couple of dollars. Then it's all Floyd's hurting for money. One thing about me, I was very smart. Got a very, very smart team. Keep a lot of smart people around me. You must find yourself with smart people. And I uh great investments

so i'm not hurting at all the the thing is floyd is that what people don't realize the more money you make the harder people normally work when you get that upper echelon you get those billionaires and those high-end hundred millionaires they work they don't sit around. They work. They can continually grow their capital. I got to where I got to by working, not sitting around. Retirement for me is not just coming home, sitting back, kicking my feet up, just watching TV. I still want to go out and have fun and enjoy life. And I'm still going, the twos and fues and extra dollars, it never hurts. They add up.

Huh? They add up, them twos and fues. Absolutely, yes. Absolutely. Floyd, you said exhibition. I look at what you did in Japan when you fought that guy as an exhibition. I don't look at what you did with Conor

as an exhibition because, you know, for me, how do you do it? Like, I can play flag. Like, I was an ex-professional football player. I can do flag football. Okay. If you're a basketball player, you can go to, like, the celebrity all-star game. You can do that.

But how do you celebrity box? I mean, those licks hurt. I mean, somebody's really trying to land shots on you, and they hurt. So I'm trying to figure out how do you exhibition box? Well, they told me in Japan I was going to go out there and just move around with the guy. Right. And, you know, take it light.

Right. Do three rounds, take it light. They said, no, we want you to go out there and really get it in. Whereas for that fight, as you can see, I looked a little heavy. So I wasn't the same. I wasn't working out like I'm working out now. For that fight, I really wasn't working out. I went to the gym and said, let me spar.

I sparred a couple of times. Then I went over to Japan and picked up like nine or 10 million. Right. Okay. Now, you said you mentioned Conor McGregor. Now, you had to take this fight serious. Obviously, you trained, you put the work in. Because, you know, he's coming to try to win this fight.

He wants to say, I did something no other boxer can do. I hung an L on Floyd Mayweather Jr. Well, Conor McGregor, a lot of people must realize this. Before Conor McGregor got involved in the MMA, he was a boxer.

He's a former boxer, whether it's amateur or professional. No different from amateur fighters. They got a lot of amateur experience. Meaning, if you got 300 or 400 fights as an amateur, you really basically is a semi-pro. Right. So he never fought semi-pro, but he had a little experience.

And majority of his fights in the MMA is stand-up. Right. I mean. So in other words, even though he's not a professional fighter, he has the basic understanding of boxing because like, as you mentioned, when he's in MMA, he's not trying to take people to the ground. He's not trying to arm bar leg lock someone. He's trying to get them to stand up in the middle of the ring and land shots. The basic fundamentals. And every time Conor McGregor has taken an L in the UFC, it's been because he has gotten taken to the ground.

Correct. You know, his ground game is really not that effective. But, I mean, my hat off to him. It's crazy that a guy can steal, a Caucasian guy can steal my whole remedy and go to UFC and become huge. But it is what it is. So talk us through the fight with Conor McGregor. Obviously, he's a UFC guy, MMA.

And it seems like to me your game plan was like you would just walk. I've never seen you just like, you was like taking punches. You was like walking through his punches. Did you not feel he could knock you out? Oh, absolutely not. Like I said before, you know, when you've been in there with the best. Right. When I say the best,

meaning, I mean, I could throw so many different names out, you know, out there because... We'll get to those names in a minute. We're going to talk about that. Because Floyd, I don't think you get the credit

you deserve for the fighter that you are. You beat 16 world champs. You're 50 and 0. But people always make excuses. No, no, no. David LaJoya was old. No, I think I beat, if I'm not mistaken, I beat 23.

You beat, wow, okay. Somewhere upwards of that. It really doesn't matter. Okay. It's all about, at the end of the day, it's all about am I satisfied? Okay. I'm satisfied with my career. And I remember, you know, you guys, when we talked about athlete of the decade.

Right. I remember you guys when we had, you know, a crazy debate about me and LeBron James. Right. Sports Illustrated. Yes. And my thing is this. I don't talk about anything. I speak facts.

And I'm going to always stand behind athletes that compete and go out there and give it 100% every night. And I was one of those, those type of athletes. So why don't you think, do you think some of the things that have happened in your career off the, outside of the ring hurt you when it came to this? Well, okay. My thing is this, are we talking about my personal life or what I do inside that square circle? I mean, I'm just trying to find out because what I do in my personal life is my personal life.

Correct. And what someone else does in their personal life is their personal life. Right. So I'm there to, you know, I'm there to compete and be the best that I can be in the sport of boxing. Right. Or whatever, you know, whatever I'm doing, whatever field I'm involved in, I'm always going to give it 100%. Right. So people are entitled to judge me for what they hear, hearsay.

Okay. Making assumptions. Just because I never came out and said, let me explain. I don't have to explain anything nobody. Only people that I feel like I have to explain something to is

my children and my relationship. Because at the end of the day, only God can judge me. Let's go back to where it all started. You grew up in Grand Rapids. Yes. Michigan.

Your father was a fighter. Your uncle was a fighter. Both uncles. Okay. Both uncles were fighters. So it was almost like you were destined. It was predetermined. You were ordained to be a fighter.

Yes. That's all I knew. You know, but... Did you ever want to do anything else? When I was coming up? Yeah. Well, you know, I played football, actually. I played football.

Did you? Okay, what position did you play? Running back. You told us, kid. Running back. I was always a fast one on my uh football team right uh i had fun a lot of fun and if i chose them if i wanted to play football i could have played football if i wanted to play basketball i could have played basketball it's what it's whatever i

wanted to do floyd when i look but it's not easy because I have a son. Now, I play professional football. My brother played professional football, but he wanted no parts of that. And I was perfectly fine. I didn't say you need to play because I played, your uncle played, your grandpa. I didn't do any of that. I let him chose his path. Did you feel any outside pressure to do this or because your uncle and because your uncles and because your father were fighters,

did you feel any pressure to do that? None whatsoever. I'm glad that my dad pushed me. My dad pushed me and wanted me to be the best. It was never good enough. and wanted me to be the best. It was never good enough. And that's what I like about my dad. He was very, very strict. I mean, when you say a strong, willing, hardworking man, that's my dad. And I don't care what we have been through in the past.

It's all about growth and growing. I love my dad because without my dad, I wouldn't be the man who I am today. I wouldn't have accomplished the things I've accomplished. And I wouldn't be known as TBE if it wasn't for my father. So I love my dad. My dad, every day, no matter what my dad did, my dad would run the streets.

My dad would hustle. But every day, my dad would make sure I went to the boxing gym. Every day. And I love my dad for that. You said, because I heard Roy Jones say this exact same thing because he had his dad as a trainer.

He ended up parting ways with his dad you ended up parting ways because you felt that it was never good enough and it was he was adding more pressure than needed to be there how did you come to that decision say you know what i'm gonna part ways i'm gonna keep it in the family but that has to be a hard decision floyd because your dad is like you got my name. I helped give you life. And you're parting ways with me. It's not really parting ways. This is what people don't know. OK.

We forget when my dad left me at the age of 16, my dad went to prison. So I was on my own at 16. at the age of 16, my dad went to prison. So I was on my own at 16. From 16 to the age of 19, I was working by myself. Then I started working back with my uncle Roger. So it's always been in the family. I would work with my dad, I would work with my uncle Roger. I would always work with both.

So it's really not like I was like departing just leaving my father. And I'm not work with both. So it's really not like I was like departing, just leaving my father. Right. And I'm not the jealous type. When my dad was working with other fighters, as far as working with Oscar and just Chad Dawson and other fighters, I was happy that my dad was able to still work with fighters and make great money. Right. I'm not like that floyd you had a very you you went golden gloves in three different weight class you were a champion you go to the olympics talk us through that because i remember watching that yes and how you

got robbed now back you lost six fights as an amateur all of those fights you lost by one point yes losing those fights so tell me what's going through your mind after loss tell me how do you how do you get over and say oh man i should have won that did you think any of those fights not the olympics we're going to get to that in a minute but did you think you should have won any of those fights that your amateur fights you lost i mean i mean absolutely. I mean, if you, if you, if I lost six fights all by one point, one point, then there's really something to that. I mean, I was fighting on the computer scoring system. So, I mean, that was kind of difficult when I was fighting on the computer scoring system, but you know, just as far as how I looked at amateur boxing, it's just a learning program preparing you for the professional ranks.

If that's something you choose to do. Am I really worried about, am I happy with my amateur career? Absolutely. my amateur career absolutely if i happy with receiving the bronze medal and not winning and not winning though absolutely well that gotta hurt floyd no so bad floyd the judge raised your hand he thought you had won no you mean the referee referee yeah excuse me ref raise your hand the referee raised my hand because he thought i won yes but i'm glad that the fight went like it went why if it did it made me work that much harder as a professional not to feel that same pain again so you believe losing that fight was the greatest thing that ever happened to Floyd Mayweather Jr. That was one of the

best things that happened to me. One of the best things. One of them. Yes. That same guy is, and I feel bad, that same guy that I lost to is now somewhat homeless. Yes, I read that story. You know, that's crazy.

You know, I wish him nothing but the best. And I don't know why he didn't become a boxing trainer. Because at that particular time when we fought, he was already a lot older than I was. Because, you know, I was fighting at the elite stage. I was fighting at the elite stage at 16. And, you know, I wanted to turn professional at the age of 14. But, you know, it never happened.

Five years later, I turned professional at 19. Then within a year, a year, a little bit over a year or something, I became world champion. And was world champion almost, well, I mean, probably like 20 years. You turned pro right after the Olympics. The Olympics in 96 were held in atlanta you become world champion 98 you stop hernandez so what's going i mean that's that's

a fast turnaround floyd i mean normally guys need 8 10 12 fights before they even get a title shot and within since inside of two years you're world champ well this is the reason why, because I was active. Okay. I was very, very active. I told him, sometimes I would go to the promotion, to the promotion, to the, well, basically, I would go to top rank, which, and they was my promoters. Okay.

I would go to the office. I would go to the board. Bruce Tramplet, a guy named Bruce Tramplet was the matchmaker. I would go in there, say, I want to fight this day. They said, Floyd, you know, you're one of our top fighters, and we know you demand, you know, a heavy payday. I said, listen, pay me what you think I deserve. Pay me something solid. I just want to stay active because I know what I'm trying to get to,

as far as with my career. Right. They will keep me active. I think it wasn't even a full two years. I fought 17 fights, then I fought for the title. But boxers don't fight like that anymore though, Floyd. I mean, you're basically fighting every couple of months. You're in the ring. I should be upset with myself with what I did to the sport, Floyd. I mean, you were basically fighting every couple of months. You were in the ring. I'm upset. I'm going to, I should be upset with myself

with what I did to the sport of boxing. Right. Every fighter now wants, I want a Floyd Mayweather payday. Right. You know, but I put it,

I put in a lot of hard work to get where I got to. It wasn't easy. Very, very difficult. And I, and I really wasn't crying and complaining. I would just say,

yo, put me in, put him in front of me. I'll beat him to show the world that I'm the best. And someday I will go down in history as the best. Do you believe they were hesitant to do that because they knew they didn't want you to take a nail? You knew you weren't going to take the nail. But sometimes promotion companies, they protect their fighters because they feel they're protecting them from themselves. It's crazy that the promoter, Bob and him,

I can't say these fighters don't, don't, don't see this. One minute he'll say, Ali is, Ali is one of the best that I have Dennis Dennis Mayweather Dennis Pacquiao and uh Dennis uh uh Lomachenko Dennis this guy I mean boy I mean these these promoters they kill me I mean Floyd you did something that nobody had done at that time you broke with the promotion company and struck out on your own how did you come to that decision

how did you say you know what instead of me fighting for him and him getting a chunk of this why not I fight I'm in the ring he ain't taking no blows let me get all this let me keep 100% of the revenue I can see how fighters right now and it's no there's no it's not like i'm throwing shade it's just that if i accomplished everything

that i've accomplished and i've done everything that i've done how can you go to a, I mean, I look at guys like Terrence Crawford. Right. Terrence Crawford could be a lot bigger than he is. How can you make, and this shows, I mean, this shows that racism still exists. How can you say that Loma Chinkko is better than Terrence Crawford? Not at all. Not in a million years. Not at all.

Are they unsure? Floyd, you were sure yourself. You were sure you could do it. Are they unsure? Do they not like, okay, they're fighting. Why haven't more fighters struck out on their own? It's not really, I mean, I got loose because me as a promoter, right now, me as a promoter, I know what fighters want because I've been on both ends.

I was a fighter, so I know what you're looking for. I know how you need to be promoted. Because right now, right now, Gervonta Tank Davis is one of the most exciting fighters, or is the

most exciting fighter in the sport of boxing right now. Okay, who are you trying to line him up with? It doesn't matter who we line him up with. He's exciting. Whoever we put in front of him, he's going to do what he's got to do. And he's still learning.

And I got another fighter that's about to fight for the title within a few days. A fighter that goes by the name of Roley. I want you to check him out. He's another fighter.

He's 11-0 with 10 knockouts, and he's going to fight for the world title. He's a heavy hitter also, and he's very, very exciting. So my job is to put these guys in position to make a lot of money and to entertain. Right. Whereas you got the, you know, a lot of fighters was fighting on, I never, actually, I never watched DAZN. They say it's on an app, on a phone. Right.

Whereas I believe in putting fighters on television. Right. Old school. We believe in putting fighters on Showtime or Fox or pay-per-view. We're going to build these fighters, and we're going to continue to take these fighters to the next level. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news,

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Subscribe today and you'll immediately be smarter and funnier than your friends. And who doesn't want that? Listen now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Floyd, what people don't realize is that early in your career,

and Floyd doesn't have any power. Floyd, you were stopping people. Yes. You were stopping. No, no, no.

And that's, and that goes a lot that and I think that have a lot to do with how you were able to ascend so far. You were stopping champions. Yeah, I'm not no run of the mill, not no guy that had five fights. You Corrales, you carry Corrales.

Well, as you as your career, you know this as a football player. Right. You break down as you get older. And you still have, as a football player. Right. You probably break down as you get older. Mm-hmm. And you still have to find ways to win. Right. And that's why Tom Brady is such a great quarterback

because he still will find a way to win. If he say, guess what? I don't care what y'all got to do. Give me the best line. give me the best protection. I can get the ball to any wide receiver. Just give me the best protection. Right. So far as me, I'm still so mentally strong.

So I still can find ways to win, even though if my body, when my body broke down, I still found different ways to win. And that's what makes me so great. I mean, the thing is the way you fought. You fought from a defensive stance, but you were landing shots. And everybody says, well, Floyd doesn't have any power. I say, well, if he didn't have any power, why don't people just walk him down? Why don't they walk through those punches? If he has no power, why don't people just walk him down? Why don't they walk through those punches? If he has no power, why don't people walk him down?

You just see, um... I'm gonna take my hat off to another, you know, another hell of a fighter, a guy that I faced, Canelo. Okay. This man, um... You see, um, he won a light heavyweight championship he didn't beat all these these guys

who they say is he beat Triple G he beat a lot of great fighters I can't take nothing away from him but then when you face Floyd Mayweather they say and remember

you're at your best when you're young. Right. Young. Now, you go look at a Floyd Mayweather. When I was 21, that's when I got five hundred a year at 21. Right. I think I faced Canelo. He could have been 23, 22.

I don't know what was his age at that particular time. Right. I think I faced Canelo. He could have been 23, 22. I don't know what was his age at that particular time. Right. But then they say he's inexperienced, but he had, I think, when we fought, he had more fights than I did. But we were talking about this. At the elite level, he still had a lot of fights. And Floyd, we talked about this earlier. And that's a lot of problems that I get pushed back with my co-host.

I said, you keep saying that he hadn't fought. You make excuses. You say Dayla Hoyer was old. You say Gotti was outclassed. You say Canelo was young. You make all these excuses. But he beat him. OK, so if I'm 20, I'm 24.

Right. So if I'm 30, he's 34 right okay so it's not like when he was in his 20s i was in my 20s when me and oscar fought we both was in our 30s right when i fought many pacquiao actually i think I'm a couple years older than Pacquiao. Correct. So when I fought Pacquiao, I don't know if I was, I could have, what, 38? Mm-hmm. I was 38. He probably was 36, 35.

So it's always going to be an excuse. Do I care? Absolutely not. But why don't you think you receive the credit that you deserve i mean um jealousy jealousy i speak my mind i'm not like it's not like the NFL. It's not like the NBA, where a lot of times the players can't really say what they want to say. Right. What they really want to do. Right. You're on a team.

They'll cut you, and then you'll be out. Well, me, myself, like you look at Colin Kaepernick. Correct. When he took a stand on what he believed in, you gotta go. Right. So a lot of times when these guys take certain stands,

you gotta go. Whereas you can't tell me I gotta go because at the end of the day even right now, Floyd Mayweather is still the face of boxing without even competing. The reason why I'm the face of boxing is because of this. Every time boxing come on, you don't bring up Muhammad Ali name. You don't bring up Mike Tyson name. You always bring up Floyd Mayweather name because I'm still a face of boxing

but what I don't understand though is that this is what the great the late Emmanuel Stewart said about you when you fought he says quote there have been very few more talented than this kid he's going to win two or three world titles and he's going to be the best ever Emmanuel Stewart trained Holyfield, trained Lenny Lewis. He trained some of the great fighters. And this is what he said about an up and coming Floyd Mayweather. Jim Lampley said, I haven't seen anybody like this since Willie Pep. This is what people that's been around the sport of boxing. This is what they're saying about Floyd Mayweather. So I't understand why are they jealous because I

I speak my mind I speak from the heart and I speak my mind is that bad absolutely not at the end of the day I'm happy with the reason my results inside the ring I'm happy with my results on the outside because i can say what i want to say right even i i say this to all athletes right now when you guys when we're talking about because you know even though there's a lot going on correct the george floyd situation with Breonna Taylor. And I have to tell you, you know, it's so much crazy stuff going on. Breonna Taylor is born and raised in Grand Rapids, Michigan, like myself. Okay. You know, I know Breonna Taylor's father.

You know, actually, he's in prison right now. I know her father. Now, we look on a court right now, on the NBA court, and we see these guys kneeling, and we see Black Lives Matter. This is what I want to say for the athletes and the entertainers. This is what we need to do. We need to have different policies come in as far as with these police officers. How police interact with us. If it's something that's not done right, if it's something that's not done right, you guys get the death penalty or you guys get life without parole.

Wow. If that happens, then guess what? Then we're going to get some different results. Then this will stop. But as long as these guys are just getting a slap on the wrist, this will continue to happen. So I don't want these, I't want the nba to just put that on the court i don't want the nfl i don't want these guys just just kneeling right do something about this and and if you guys do something like what i said these guys had the officer the same officer that did those officers that did that to george flo, they deserve life without parole. Well, before Floyd, we're just not starting to get officers charged. So can we get them charged and get some conviction before we move to the death penalty?

I mean, guess what? Guess what? What happened? Charges ain't going to be done with a slap on the wrist. And they'll be back out and be back with their families. I agree. I agree that because the police unions are so strong, you see the guy that shot,

I think his name was Rashard Brooks in Atlanta. He's already suing to get his job back. And because they get slapped, as you mentioned, they get slapped on the wrist. They get to go right back on the street. They got, Floyd, where can you work at? If you've got 25, 30 complaints and keep your job? You kill one, two, three people and you keep your job. How?

It's rough. It's rough and it's tough. I mean, we have to come together. We have to come together and work together and stop being jealous of one another. We have to. We have to stop worrying about who got the most this and who got the most that and who's the best here and who's the best there and work together as one. We have to. We have to. That would be nice. But Floyd,

you do understand because of the history of America and the seeds that have been sown, the racism seeds that were planted in 1619, it's kind of hard to have an open and honest dialogue because when you start talking about what transpired, they shifted conversation to Chicago. Okay, you can cure cancer and you can cure heart disease i mean why we can't do two things at once but they only wanted you to focus on one thing and it's crazy i was talking about i was speaking about this last night about you know the city of chicago my heart goes out to the city of Chicago. One of my best friends, Nate Jones, the guy who wears the body suit that I punch when I'm in training. We was on the same Olympic team.

We was like, I mean, we've been best friends since, he's been one of my best friends since 1994 and I used to hang in the worst projects at that particular time for years one of the worst projects in America which was Cabrini Green Green Green yep I mean I've seen a lot of crazy things throughout my life. Just coming up in the inner city, hanging out in Chicago, hanging out in Jersey, being in New York with my family. Just throughout my life, just me, myself, coming from poverty. We have to stop being jealous of one another. For real. I really want to say this. Chicago and even in L.A., we gang. And even in LA, we gangbanging.

But what are we gangbanging for? For what? What are we gangbanging for? For what? We got to see. You don't own it. It always killed me. You're fighting for turf.

You're fighting for turf you don't even own. No, it's not that. You're fighting and be like, you know, this my block. But you're renting a house on that block. Exactly. You're saying that this our turf and I always talk about this. Before you can speak on turf, own a piece of the earth first. Own something before you can say something is yours.

Right. Own something before you can say something is yours. Right. Before you put your money into a diamond chain or a watch, own your house. Own something first. So, I mean, you're fighting and they say that, you know, like even like I talk about this. We don't call the Europeanan the europeans that came over uh we don't call them european americans so don't call us african americans you know i'm saying they call us african americans when they want to separate us or differentiate and like i said before, and separate us. When they won't like, when I'm

competing for the Olympic team, I'm an American. Correct. But then when I do something that they don't like, or when they want to separate me, I'm an African American. I don't compete on an African American Olympic team. I'm an American. It's okay if you want to say he's a Black American, but I'm an American at the end of the day because most of the black Americans that we call African Americans in this country don't know nothing about Africa or don't even know what tribe they

come from. When they want to say Barack Obama is the first African American person, no, no, he's not. He's the first African-American person. No, no, he's not. I mean, he's the first Black American. That's what I want to say.

That's how I look at things. I mean, and we all look, we all got different views. That's just how I view things. So everybody got their own opinion. And just in life, period. I don't let nobody stop my drive and my will to win just in life i don't care like a lot of times everybody oh donald trump i don't care who's the president that's not going to stop my drive and my will to win in life and that's not going to stop me for teaching my kids just about, you know,

about life and tell them about my struggle and tell them about working hard and surpassing me and becoming better than me just in life. Well, Floyd, I remember a couple of years ago when Gucci came out and they had this, this racist, i think the black it was a sweatshirt or a sweater they had the black with the uh the big they had the red lips and then you you uh ig'd yourself in the gucci store and you're like i'm not gonna let anybody dictate to me what i can and can't wear explain your decision that went into like because you know a lot of black people were upset with you but like you said you're your own man talk to me, talk us through what went into your mindset in doing that. I'm wrong for having my own, my own, I'm not wrong for having my own opinion.

Right. I mean, because if that's the case, if you guys want to say, I'm going to stop wearing Gucci, then guess what? Stop wearing everything else. Because all those people run together right they all net they all network and run together as one i have my own opinion and guess what it's it's crazy when you speak about that because when you go look at i want everybody to go back and look at when i post it you know when i went with the gucci post when i when i when i post never said nobody name never said a name right never called out one particular person. But my voice is so powerful. And when I speak, that it is very, very touchy.

It hurt feelings in certain ways where, like I said before, I can't be broke. I'm saying I can't be broke first. I'm unbreakable. Nobody can get to me. Nobody can hurt my spirit because, like I said before, I'm a proud black man, and I got the will to win just in life, period. So I'm going to wear whatever I want to wear when I want to and how I want to. Floyd, you mentioned to go back and you were talking about the gang banging. You said, well, look, whether you're banging or not, look, before you buy jewelry, but before you buy cars and before you buy, you know, all this expensive stuff, get you a home. But Floyd, they see you post that stuff. They see you with bands after bands.

They see you with these Hermes bags. They see you with all this stuff. And they say, well, I want to, I want to, I want to drip like, like money. But I'm dripping in a house that I own. I'm dripping it. Every house that you see me in, I own. Right. So whatever I'm posting, that's the life I'm really living. So I'm not telling these artists or these artists or these athletes,

you shouldn't be able to do nothing right enjoy enjoy it that's what you work for you enjoy it yeah absolutely i'm not i'm sorry i don't want to move the camera because she i know she said she sent me the right way do whatever make you happy okay but i'm just giving you some pointers and dropping some juice on these athletes and these entertainers and these celebrities. One thing about me, my cars, my homes, and everything that I do, I own. So you can do whatever you want to do, but I'm going to tell you what I own. So you can do whatever you want to do, but I'm going to tell you what I do. You know, what I choose to do.

Floyd, I don't know if you know this, but there's a wide receiver that played in the NFL. I think he played like 13, 14 years, Brandon Marshall. And he says he wants to be heavyweight champ of the world. Do you think there's a realistic chance that a guy that got into the sport of boxing, let's say at the age of 35. Hold on.

Is he from, actually, ain't he from Vegas? No, no, not that Brandon Marshall. Not that Brandon Marshall. This Brandon Marshall played wide receiver for the Broncos, for the Dolphins, for the Bears. This Brandon Marshall is from Florida. The wide receiver. He's about 6'4", about 235.

Well, how the heavyweight, well, you know, the heavyweight division ain't like it was back in the day. It's not the same. But even though it's not the same, do you believe a man that can get into a sport, a combat sport, like the sport of boxing, at the age of 34, 35, and become heavyweight champ with no proud background? You believe that heavyweight division is that diluted?

Anything is possible. Anything is possible. If he believe in himself, then, I mean, you can't knock him but you do know hold up edgar joshua is a gold super heavyweight olympian gold medalist tyson fury is six foot nine and a half 255 260 that's skill and you believe a guy that has minimal. Tyson Fury, Tyson Fury, he's solid, he got skills. He does. He's solid, he got skills. Deontay Wilder, you didn't mention him, why?

Who? Deontay Wilder. Deontay Wilder, I mean, he got bombs. I mean, that's why he calls himself the bronze bomber. He got bombs, now, we can't say that. But we can make his skills a lot better. Well, have you reached out about training him? Do you believe you could train him

and get him to be a Fury? Get him to be the Anthony Joshua? Do you believe he has the skills? I know he has the raw power, but does he have the skills? Fury is skilled. Joshua is skilled. They're technically sound boxers but one shocking what

one shocking one equalizer can in in you know in the fight yes um only thing he needs is the basic fundamentals and i could do the rest i could do the rest but floyd what you could do is you could walk people into punches and that's because is you could walk people into punches. And that would be- No, no, no. I can't walk people into punches because remember, I'm a defensive wizard. Man, stop, man. Stop. Stop.

Stop. I don't walk people into punches. No, you walk people into punches. You know that because you catch them, they follow you around the ring and take a beating. I remember the Baltimore fight. The dude threw almost 700 punches and landed 79. How somebody throws 700 punches and lands 79?

You landed 244 out of 400. I can't. Yeah. I can help him. I can really help him. All he got to do is, I mean, he's with the, I mean, Deontay Wilder is with us anyway.

He's with Al Hammond anyway. Right. Because, Floyd, here's the thing. I mean, I look at Buddy McGirt. Buddy McGirt turned into a great trainer. There's some, Virgil Hill. I mean, there have been some, there's some guys that fought, that were good fighters,

that were great fighters in their day and time and their weight class. You're arguably the best. You're one of the top two or three fighters. I mean, someone said you're the first or second best fighter of the 21st century. Why wouldn't guys come to try to pick your brain, get that knowledge from Floyd Mayweather?

I'm here. I'm here. I'm here to help fighters so even like deontay water i'm here all you got to do is let me know um let me know what you want to do and we can we can make it happen i'm here to help fighters you caught a lot of flag you said your top five fighters who are floyd mayweather's top five fighters now you can go your weight your smaller guys or you can go your way your smaller guys or you can go hey i forgot last week like i told you before every week is different who was my last fight who was my fight last okay i know you got first of all you left ali and you left ray robinson out that's why you got the flag whoever else you put in there is unimportant

you left those two guys out at the end of the day, Floyd Mayweather is not a follower. I have my own opinion. This is my opinion. Right. This is what I think. And there's a reason why. There's always a reason why you know and i would i would always i would always love sugar ray robertson because he paved the way for muhammad ali right you know i will always love muhammad ali because he paved

the way for for uh sugar ray leonard correct and then sugar ray leonard paved the way for a guy like a mike tyson and and and so forth and so on that's how that's how it go we Leonard paved the way for a guy like a Mike Tyson and so forth and so on. That's how it go. We all paved the way and we all care and love one another. But my opinion and what I think is my opinion and what I think. Well, Floyd, you can understand. Ray Robinson had 175 wins, 109 knockouts. He lost 19, he draw six times, and won belts over numerous classes.

Ali, go ahead. Was numerous, cuz when you say numerous, I think about Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayworth when you say numerous. I would say three. Did he win five like you, did he win eight like Pacquiao? Floyd Mayweather when you say numerous? I would say three. Did he win five like you? Did he win eight like Pacquiao? No, no, no. Okay.

But Floyd, the guy, but here's the thing. When I look at a guy, when I look at, and because you're so head and shoulders above everybody that you fought in your era. When we say this, we're going to come on record and say this. Out of all these guys in the history of boxing, I've accomplished more than every fighter in the history of boxing. You mean as far as win, as far as undefeated, as far as built,

as far as prize money? You tell me, and I'll tell you why. Tell me something, and I'll tell you why. Well, the only guy that retired, that was undefeated, that hadn't tasted defeat when he retired, was Rocky Marciano. Okay. Go ahead. How many world champions have Rocky Marciano beat?

I would say probably, what, Archie Moore, Joe Lewis, maybe three, four? High end? So we already know. I beat more champions that's going in the Hall of Fame than he beat in his career period. So we're going to X him off. Bye.

We got Rocky Marciano off there. So if he 49-0 and I'm 50-0, okay? So we're going to X him off. Bye. We got Rocky Marciano off there. So if he 49-0 and I'm 50-0, okay, so he 49, I'm 50-0. Even if we both were still 49-0, we're talking about the accomplishments. So we know I accomplished more than he did. Go to another guy. Let's go. But Floyd, here's the thing.

I don't want to hear it. Let's go. Okay, you want another guy? Okay. Another guy. Okay, you want another guy? Okay. Another guy. Okay, Ali. Is Ali the same fighter that got beat by a fighter with seven fights? Leon Stinks beat Muhammad Ali when he only had seven fights.

Yes. And if we really tell the truth, if we really tell the truth... Well, tell that's what you're here for. You're here to tell the truth. What's the heavyweight guy that Ali fought three times? Ken Norton, actually. Ken Norton.

Ken Norton really beat Ali all three times. Go back and look at the fights. I mean, we're just telling the truth. And I love Ali, of course. Next, let's go. But Floyd, here's the thing. I don't wanna hear it. Next, let's go.

Floyd, you're 49 and 0, I mean, you're 50 and 0. You won belts in five different weight classes. Give me another fight, come on, let's go. Because everybody else has a defeat. That's the Jordan argument. Because Jordan hadn't had any defeats in the finals. You know what? I got one for you.

You just said Sugar Ray Robinson, right? Yes. You had, what did he have, 180, 200 fights? He was 175, 19, and 6. And I still beat more world champions than him. So talk to me. Okay, Roy Jones. Roy Roy Jones Roy Jones Jr still beat more world champions than Roy Jones and Roy Jones and I take my hair out to Roy Jones but you did you know see Roy I always said this Roy Jones love Roy Jones Roy Jones, love Roy Jones. Roy Jones and Muhammad Ali is the same fighter.

Their defense is their legs. When they was young, they was young, and at the top of their game, they could move, move. Once their legs went away, then they sat in a rope-a-dope. Right. Whereas that's why the Mayweather defense, and I don't want to hear nobody call it the Philly Whereas that's why the Mayweather defense, and I don't want to hear nobody call it the Philly shell. It's the Mayweather defense.

Because like I said before, I mastered it. Once you master it, it's mine now. You took it over. Okay, okay. I know a guy that had defense very comparable to yours, and you know where I'm going with this. Oh, sweet pea. He was sweet. Now come on, Floyd.

Get that man his dude. What, the in my top five? Yeah. He was sweet. Now, come on. Come on, Floyd. Now, get that man in the dude. Is he in my top five? Yeah. Huh? Yes. Okay, then. Okay, then. He was special.

I boxed him when I was like 17 or 18. I think I boxed him like 18 and 17 when I boxed him. Okay. Obviously, in your top five, you got Sweet Pea, Pernell Whitaker. You got Floyd Mayweather. Of course. I got to be in everybody's top five. I have to be in everybody's top five.

Okay. Who else do I have? I'm playing here in prior. I cannot believe I mean I'm just embaffled that you don't have Ali and you don't have

Ray Robinson I don't I know you don't I'm trying to think who I don't know Roberto Duran you like Duran

you talking about you know Sugar Ray first you know Sugar Ray Linder first loss came from Lightweight I know okay so you gotta to respect that.

So, Roberto Duran went from, I think, lightweight, lightweight to waterweight, I think, to middleweight to 168. So, I think he went to four. He went somewhere like four weight class too. Yeah, I think he fought, yeah, 160. He fought Hagler at 160, I think. And, you know, he won world titles in all the way and i mean he got uh and let me see he was uh i think he was like four or five he was like four or five oh duran duran had dynamite so what about

marvin haggler but that was the golden era that was was, okay, okay. Give me your golden era of boxing then. Explain. Like, what do you, I mean, go ahead. The best era of boxing in the history of the sport was what? A decade, maybe the 70s. Maybe you like the 80s or the 90s. Maybe you like when you fought. You can't really, the golden era had to be the 80s.

I do see. It was special. You had Tommy Hearns, Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard. You leave it on Larry Holmes. I was just about to get to him, Larry Holmes. Larry doesn't get a whole lot of credit.

Why don't Larry Holmes get the credit that he deserves? I have no idea. Because that jab. Why if you tell me you're the boxing expert, why doesn't Larry Holmes get credit? It's crazy that I be hearing all these quote unquote, so-called boxing experts. And I've been doing this. I've been, I know about the sport from,

from the beginning to now. You know? Is it because if we look at Ali, as you mentioned, he fought Ken Norton three times. He fought Joe Frazier. He fought Joe Frazier. He fought George Foreman. I want to say this.

Okay. Ali will always be a pioneer because of what he stood for you know in that era and I commend him for that and I would have done the same thing

if I was in that era he done what he's supposed to do in that era. He'd done what he's supposed to do in that era. Whereas I think in that era still we were more, we would stick together. We would stick together because you will see Muhammad

Ali with Will Chamberlain and you know You remember the summit that they had in 67 with Ali Ali, Will Chamberlain, Jim Brown, You remember the summit that they had in 67 with Ali? Ali, Will Chamberlain, Jim Brown. No, it was Kareem Bill Russell. I'm not saying that I don't mind us coming together as one,

me and different athletes and entertainers, us coming together as one and building and and growing as one i don't mind but so many of us the jealousy like it's so much jealousy going on now like i said you you're talking about in and within the black community or you're talking about boxing specifically i'm talking about within i'm talking about within just within our community. Our community. Our community, yes. Why? Don't you think we should be happy that we see one of ours make it ascend to the top? Shouldn't we applaud that instead of try to tear that person down? Absolutely.

You look, I mean, it's just, I mean, so many different things going through my mind. It's crazy. Floyd, hold on. I just got this card handed to me. Floyd's top five. Floyd Mayweather, Pernell Whitaker, Roberto Duran, Larry Holmes, and the Cincinnati Cyclone, the Hulk, Aaron Pryor.

Who was my father again? Listen, but I ain't really gotta say myself cuz y'all listen, you ain't gotta put me on the top five cuz everybody already know I'm on the top five. Okay, so- Put me on that. So in other words, we gotta come up with four cuz you gonna be in everybody's top five. Got to be, got to be. But Aaron Pryor. Aaron Pryor.

Aaron Pryor. He did carry Alexis Arguello. No, that's who Sugar Ray Leonard know. That's who Sugar Ray Leonard was ducking. Man, Sugar Ray wasn't ducking no Aaron Pryor. Man, Sugar Ray would have carried Aaron Pryor. You better do your homework. See, that's what you don't know. The behind the scenes stuff.

And you know I love Sugar Ray Leonard. But no, he- Hold on, Aaron Pryor did not have dynamite in his hands like Hitman Hearns. And he carried Hitman Hearns. Hold on, the reason why Tommy Hearns didn't go to the Olympics was because he got beat by who? Aaron Pryor.

Man, hold on. Hold on. You do know, hold on. Amateur, like you said, the guy that beat you in the Olympics is now living on a pension making, getting $435 a month. So you, Floyd, don't do that. You know Olympic boxing and pro fighting is different. Say it again. don't do that you know olympic boxing and pro fighting is different say it again i say you know olympic style boxing it's different than pro fighting because as you said it's a point system

and a lot of times you know things get missed so the guy that beat you in the olympics no because the scoring system when i was fighting and when the scoring system when uh the guys from the 80s was fighting is totally different actually that was the 70 that was the 76 olympic team yeah yes so the reason why Tommy Hearns didn't go to the olympics was because he got beat by Aaron Pryor yes but I get I get that but I'm saying olympic boxing and pro boxing is something entirely different. You can be a great Olympic boxer and not a great pro boxer. And I'm defeated as a professional. Do you believe Aaron Pryor could have, as a pro,

do you believe Aaron Pryor could have beat Tommy Hearns? As a pro. Anything can happen. Man, don't do that, Floyd. No, I know anything can happen. We put man on the moon. I ask you a simple question, a simple yes or a simple no. Do you believe the Hulk, Aaron Pryor,

could have beat Tommy Hearns as a pro? Absolutely. Man, you ought to be a champion. Because of the pressure. Because the Hulk keep the pressure, and he stay on you. And one thing about, even like when Sugar Ray Leonard beat Tommy Harris in the first fight.

In the 14th. When he beat him, what was that, 81 to 80? 81. Okay, so like I said before, I know this sport. He beat him because of the pressure. He wore him down with pressure. He was a fatigued fighter. He beat him with of the pressure. He wore him down with pressure. He was a fatigued fighter. He beat him with pressure.

Yeah. I took Shooter Ray, but I was worried because I knew the kind of dynamite that Tommy Hearns had in that right hand. One of my favorite fighters. What about Marvin Hagler? I can remember when Tommy Hearns picked me up when I was five years old. One of my favorite fighters. And it was hard in that era.

It was hard because... I ran Barkley? No, no, hold on. Because of the three. In that era, because of the three. It was hard for me. I love Marvin Hagler. I love Sugar Ray Leonard.

And I love Tommy Harris. So when they fight against each other, I didn't really know who I wanted to pick. And Duran. And Duran was in the 80s. He was, but I'm talking about the- Oh, out of those three guys. You can put Duran because he was a part of that fabulous four. Right.

Because he's a part of the fabulous four. Right. He's a part of the Fabulous Four. But Tommy Hines, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, when they fought, I hated that they had to fight each other. So when I look at the Sugar Ray Leonard fight and the Hagler fight, some days I say Leonard won, some days I say Hagler won. Right.

Floyd Mayweather in his prime. He's fighting Marvin Hagler in his prime, Sugar Ray in his prime, Hearns in his prime, Durant in his prime. Who wins? I gotta tell you how I will fight these guys. So you tell me how I will fight Sugar Ray Leonard? Sugar Ray Leonard got a lot of speed, but Sugar Ray,

when Sugar Ray Leonard beat my father, when he beat my dad, my dad went into the fight with a messed up hand. But, you know, even though he had a messed up hand, you still got to put food on the table so how I would approach

the Sugar Ray Leonard fight I'd come out and fill him up you know the thing is this we know he got he got speed and I got speed okay right but he don't got timing like me there's a difference he don't got timing like

floyd mayweather right and sugar rey leonard i'm a counter puncher also i could be a counter puncher right i'm versatile all around the board to whereas do i do I think it'd be a very exciting fight? Absolutely. But I think that his shots, his punches come too wide. I'm sure. Everything's short. It's short. Whereas Spanish fighters go more with wider shots.

Right. Shidra Leonard, super fast fighter. Super good. Super good. crazy leg movement how do you fight how do you fight uh Marvin Hagler uh Marvin Hagler don't he's not on a pivot he's not he's not on a pivot he's not on the pivot. So what I use is I, all I use is a range fighter, a range fighter in different shots. Because Marvin Hagler kind of reminds me of Miguel Cotto. So, you know, what I do is.

He does a lot. Marvin Hagler did a lot of this. And Miguel Cotto is more like this too, kind of like this. And Pacquiao, he does it in a fast way like this. So he does a lot. Well, that's what got Pacquiao got knocked out. But Pacquiao is always on rhythm, and Marquez caught him. He timed him because Pacquiao does – he loves a lot of different throws,

and Marquez timed him. And inches and timing is very important. Yes. Anything, even like very important. Yes. Anything, even like in football. Yes. Basketball, anything in life is about timing and inches. So Marvin Hagler, tough, tough, tough. Okay.

What about your top five guy, Roberto Duran? How are you fighting him? Uh-huh. I got to be at my best. Really? I got to be at my best. You got the ultimate respect for Duran. Because that man is tough.

That man come from lightweight, and he come up and fight Marvin Hagler. He fight them all. And he was world champion in all of those different weight classes. That's not easy. I'm a fighter, I know. It was easy for me. Nah! Hold on, Floyd. You came up for what? You came up for what? For 130 to 155?

Actually, I was fighting in the Olympics. I was fighting at 57 kilograms, which international is 125 and a half but if you fight in the u.s that's 125 so it's safe to say i was fighting at 125 went to 130 135 140 147 147 and 154 yeah i wouldn't would have fought Triple G, but I never even weighed 154 pounds when I was fighting. Right.

So even, yeah, because you was way under when you fought De La Hoya. Yes. Wow. So. Let's go to, you love sports. You love all sports. Yes. Football, give me your top five players in football.

I have to, well, it's kind of tough, but I have to go Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice, okay. I gotta go Jerry Rice, and he don't get the props that he deserves. Okay. I got to go Brady. Okay. Even Peyton Manning. I got to go Peyton Manning.

But you can't. We go quarterbacks a lot. Peyton Manning done a lot of record-breaking things. Yeah. You like the quarterbacks. You're not going to take a defensive player. You're not going to take Deion Sanders, Lawrence Taylor. You're not going to take any defensive players.

We got to go Lawrence Taylor. That's going to be hard. Like I said, it's really hard. I mean, I can't. I mean, it's tough. Because any given night, anybody can be great in those sports. In boxing, I had to be great every night because that's one-on-one. Right.

Because what makes boxing so tough, basically there are no timeouts. You can't say, well, hey, let me call a timeout. You get coached in your corner for a minute, and then you can't be off. If I'm off, I can have a teammate have an outstanding game that can cover up for me. You off, you catch the L. So, I mean, you got Emmitt Smith. You got Walter Payton.

You got Barry Sanders. So, you can't put me – you can't put me – you got to say – you got to say what's your favorite 15 at at 10, what's your favorite fun? Okay, I got one for you. Since you love sports, you love the hoop, we've been seeing you play a little basketball. LeBron James or Michael Jordan? I think the Eric, let me say this, okay?

Nah, that. I'm gonna give you the break now. Okay. Okay? I love LeBron, right? Yeah. But one thing about Michael Jordan, he going to come out there every night to try to kill you.

Every night. Right. LeBron be seeming like he's kind of playing kind of national lines sometimes, which I don't like. But Michael, I mean, LeBron James. I'm gonna, I'm gonna choose if they played against each other. LeBron James to is too big and strong and too fast. But if I had to choose one, I'm going to choose Michael Jordan.

The reason why is because I got to go with somebody that's going to go out there and give it their all every night. Well, maybe LeBron is giving it his all. He's just making it look easy. No, he's not. No, he's not. Hold on, Floyd. That's what people said about you.

You made it look so easy that you make it seem like you were fighting bombs. No, it's not that. I told him. There's a difference between being talented and God-gifted. Right. You know, I'm God-gifted. So, at the end of the day, this is the reason why. Every time Mike go out there, every time LeBron, when the clock is ticking, LeBron don't supposed to pass it.

He's supposed to shoot it. And that's the difference. No. You got to make the right play. Guess what? What? LeBron James is selling shoes not because he's passing the ball, because he's going for the – because he's supposed to go for the kill.

Look here. Every – see, Floyd, this is where you and I and a lot of people disagree. I believe – we're going to agree to disagree. Come on, let's talk about this. Come on. Okay, I want – because I believe if you make the right play, the right play, if I, okay, so if I could pass the ball to a guy, you remember that double nickel game?

Michael Jordan, I think it was like five or six days after he came back out of retirement. He had a double nickel game. He had it going. But the game-winning shot came on a pass from Michael. And we'll redo the ball. I just see Michael Jordan pass it to Steve Kirk. I'm not saying

LeBron gotta take every shot. Yeah! I ain't say he gotta be a Kobe Bryant. I ain't say he gotta take every shot. But it's I mean, I like to see our brother for him to drop. Even if you don't feel like

you're gonna make it. At least attack the basket, at least. Because we know you're super strong. Right. But, I mean, that's just me. I got the killer instinct in me. That's why I'm 50-0 for a reason. Even right now, they got a fighter that's over in Asia that's 54 and 0.

And they said, this is the new TBE, cuz he about to retire. I said, y'all tell me about this fighter that fought one world champion and he's 54 and 0 right now. And he retired at 54 and 0, and only beat one world champion. And this is what y'all trying to call a TBE? I said, okay, y'all some comedians. Yeah. Okay, let me ask you this.

What basketball player or football player you think currently playing would have been a great boxer? Jimmy Butler. Jimmy Butler probably could, Jimmy Butler probably be a good boxer. LeBron James, LeBron James would have been a good boxer. Why, because he tall? No, no, no, he couldn't have been a good boxer, just his skill.

You just said he didn't have a killer instinct. Now you're talking about he gonna be a good boxer. But guess what? What? Every fighter don't got a killer instinct that don't mean they're champions oh so now now you won't flip that because jordan had to kill an instinct that's why you're gonna take him over lebron but now you don't really need that in boxing because you can still be a champion you said who i said it can be a good fighter you didn't say everybody

that could be a world champion hold on you said be a good you said good be a good champion. I want to know who. I'm going to know. Hold on. You said be a good boxer. Okay. How about a champion fighter? Who can be a champion fighter? Now tell me. You just switched up on me. I'm not used to it.

First, you just said be a boxer. You're right. I said who can. Because anybody can be a boxer. But I'm telling you, be a champion. They got so many. They got so many. I say Charles Oakley.

Charles Oakley, tough. Yeah, that's Michael Jordan low key security for real. That's low key. Ron, I guess too. Yeah. That's Michael Jordan low-key security for real. That's low-key. Ron Artest, too. Yeah. Oakley and Ron Artest. And Ben Wallace.

So we got some boys that can go a little bit. What about football players? A lot of them. A lot of football players. Floyd, that's what I tell. I say, you don't understand the difference between mindset between a football player and a basketball player. It is totally different. Yeah, man.

It's just, see, if LeBron was hanging around me, LeBron, you supposed to be hanging around me from the beginning. If you hang around me from the beginning, man, your mentality will be totally different. You believe so? You believe you rubbed out on him? If he's been with me, his mentality will just be totally different.

Your mental will be, when you get with me, when an athlete get with me, your mental is just totally different. Even like Isaiah Thomas. When Isaiah Thomas was playing, when he was communicating with me every day, he was hanging with me every day.

He got the starting job in the NBA and he went to the All-Star game. Once he stopped kicking it with me and hanging with me and listening to me, things kind of changed. And why you got to stick with me? He got hurt, boy. Huh? He got hurt.

Still we can get through that. I've been broken up all through my career and I got through it. I know how to get through it. Floyd, your hands, your hands were a little brittle, but that was it. Man, come on man, I've been through a lot more than that. I know you told your rotator cuff once right, after the Castillo fight. Well before the Castillo fight and you fought Castillo twice.

Yeah, I'm still ready. Let me ask you a question, would you fight Conor McGregor again? Man, I got it, I got it. I'm not gonna pick I eat 300 million. Absolutely. So would you fight? Would you fight him different or you fight him the same way?

Same way, same results. So in other words, you're going to drag him to the deep and drowning. Cause that's what you do. I bet gonna do. You know, I bet Dana White, I bet Dana White some high end liquor that Conor couldn't knock you out because he said Conor, because you see Conor knocking people out with those four ounce gloves. I say but he don't know how to punch a boxing glove. I say watch Floyd walk through it. It is okay for me to eat.

Yeah, great. Okay, okay. Dana White good guy, go ahead. Okay. Dana White, good guy. Good dude. I've been knowing Dana White 20, 24 years. And this year,

me and Dana White or next year, me and Dana White will do some big business soon. Soon. This year or next year. So you would fight Conor McGregor. Let me ask you a question.

Is there any boxer that you would fight, say for 150 million? Not enough, absolutely not. 150 million ain't enough. My health more important. Conor McGreg million ain't enough. My health more important. Conor McGregor can't punch. He can't punch. Floyd, I knew he could knock you out when he hit you flush with that uppercut and you walked through it.

You never saw that punch. Normally it's the punches you don't see that get you out of there. He hit you flush and you walked through it. I don't remember it i'm having fun i'm like i'm like oh man this dude punch so soft i said it's cool look blow i you it seemed like you were because they panned the camera on you and you turned and smiled at the camera do you remember that when i was in the corner yeah you know why i remember that why because i didn't take no punishment i still got all my faculties so that was so great about my career so why would

i go out there and fight these these young fighters these young lions and risk my health right you know you look at my uncle roger you look at muhammad ali you look at these different fighters you're like i just said on the said in the beginning when we first started talking, your health is your wealth. Right. So as far as me going out there competing against a guy like Conor McGregor, oh, absolutely. Or a guy that's really inexperienced and picking up-

Khabib. Huh? You fight Khabib? Oh, absolutely. You know, those are $300 million fights. See, you have to make it make sense. Right. Real sense.

Make dollars that make sense. Huh? If it make dollars, it makes sense. Certain type of dollars. Because I need to be able to have my faculties also. Right. And still be sharp, still be able to, you know, be agile, hang out, you know, with my kids,

still make smart investments. All those types of things are very important and play a major, major part in my life. So, oh, you need to fight this guy. You need to fight that guy. Listen. For what? It's called errors

for a reason. I had my time. I had my error. So it's these young fighters' error now. But it's okay for me to go fight a Khabib or a Conor and pick up. With those two fights alone, I could pick up $600 million. So that don't hurt.

To fight guys that just to entertains, all entertainment. But Conor said, Conor say he knows what he did wrong. He knows what he can do. He said he can get you out of it. He know what he did wrong, but he also know what he did right. What he did wrong is getting the ring with me. And when he did right, was getting the ring with me for he can get a big payday.

So you willing to play? Do you have, have you and Connor had any conversations? No, I don't like him. I don't like him at all. At all. This, this interview was two years in the making. I bumped into you at Michael Jordan's part at a, a all-star game party in 2018.

And I asked you and you was like, nah. He said, but you told me if you ever do your own thing, I got you. I'm here. Your executive assistant. I've known her for two decades, Kitchy. I reached out to her. I said, ask Floyd when he come on my podcast. She called me the next day.

Floyd said he got you. But I apologize. It took two years, but I'm here. Well, it took me two years to get a podcast. No matter how long it took, I'm here. You're here. Hey, you're a man of your word, bro. You told me you got me. You got me. And I appreciate that. Thank you. We talked about this earlier. We touched on it. I offer you my condolences to to roger and your and the mother of your children let's talk about roger because roger was more than an uncle roger was you you guys almost had a relationship like a like brothers and then at the time your father

was away he served as that father figure um he was like a father he was like a father. He was like a father, a brother, an uncle. He'd been through a lot. He went through a lot of ups and downs, my Uncle Roger. The last couple years, you know, Roger wasn't the same. But I never wanted to come out publicly. Right. and say that I knew he was going to pass away in due time. It's just when I think about this, it hurts. It hurts just when I talk about it. Love him so much.

I'm still going to be there for his children as a father figure for his children because his son is so young and his daughter is so young. You know, I mean, great story. I got an opportunity when we were promoting the fight, your fight with Conor McGregor. We had your father on a couple of times. Yeah. How is pops doing?

Like I said before, my dad's going through a lot too. But he's still, his mental is still sharp. Yeah. His mental is still sharp. He's still there. But he's getting older. Mm-hm. But I'm always gonna be there for him to make sure he got everything that he

want and everything that they need. I mean, those are the things that's very, very important. Worrying about a hip hop artist is not important. Right. Family is important. My love for my dad is important. My love for my is not important. Right. Family is important. My love for my dad is important. My love for my children is important. Us helping, you know, the things that we're going through

as black people are very important. Worrying about a hip hop artist is not important. So I love, I'm gonna to continue to love my dad. And I only want the best for my dad. I want the best for my family. And I'm going to continue to want the best for the people that's around me. And I have to come in and take my hat off to my assistant.

She works hard day in and day out. She does. And she make things happen. She make it happen. She make it happen. She make things shake. And that's what it's about. Us giving back and us helping one another. I appreciate it, bro.

I really appreciate it because this happened. I mean, it happened so quick because I didn't, because when I talked to my producer, I said, well, I reached out to, I know Floyd's executive assistant and I reached out to her. And so I don't know when I'm gonna hear back, but she texted me back the next day.

Floyd said he got you. I told him, I said, Floyd said he got me. She said, no, do this for him. And then I said, yeah, you're right. Because, and I like it because you're fair. You're like Joe, you're like, what? I think it was Joe Cortez. I'm firm, but I'm fair. And that's what I like about it. You're firm, but you're fair. You like Joe, you like, what I think it was Joe Cortez. Yeah. I'm firm, but I'm fair.

Right. And that's what I like about you. You firm, but you fair. So I'm gonna take my hat off. I appreciate that. I appreciate it. Tell your father I said hello. Yes.

I wish him all the best of health. Floyd going forward, I wish you nothing but the best. I'm on my way to the boxing gym right now. I gotta go work with the fighters. I appreciate you coming on. Give me a little bit of your time today. I really on my way to the boxing gym right now. I got to go work with the fighters. I appreciate you coming on. Give me a little bit of your time today. I really appreciate it, bro. Take care.

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