Club Shay Shay - Hawks AF - Khujo from Goodie Mob on ‘The South got something to say’ & stories from The Dungeon
Episode Date: May 6, 2025From legendary Dirty South hip-hop group Goodie Mob, Khujo joins fellow Westside ATLien DC Young Fly for a heartfelt conversation about music’s impact on his life, witnessing André 3000&r...squo;s iconic “The South Got Something To Say” moment, stories from Atlanta’s historic Dungeon studio, and which rappers are on his Mount Rushmore.00:00 Intro01:50 First Hawks Game02:47 Growing up on the Westside06:05 The Dungeon08:08 The South Got Something To Say10:24 Atlanta holding the rap crown13:00 When DC discovered Goodie Mob14:45 Hip-Hop Mount Rushmore18:07 Speed Round @ ClubShayShay @ Nightcapshow_ #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Baby!
Chili doggin' and cold slowin', baby boy.
That's some old school, what you say?
Chili doggin' and cold slowin'.
Chili doggin' and cold slowin'.
["Chillin' Doggins & Cold Slowin'"]
Uh.
Mm-hmm.
See, I ain't got no theme song yet. Oh, it's coming. I ain't got no theme song yet.
Oh, it's coming.
We ain't got no theme song yet.
You got a theme song yet, Kee?
You know what, only reason why I said that
because this episode is epic.
It's not just a regular episode.
This one of them one, this one from the Dirty Side.
Huh, what you know about the Dirty Side?
This is a real epic moment right here for the home team.
And they so hype, I wish they would just be quiet.
We might be whipping some tear fellers.
Yeah, we up by three, all right.
We'll make all the noise you want.
Okay, because this right here, this episode,
we need to stay tuned because we got a pioneer in the game,
man, a real South Atlanta legend and 1 4th of the iconic
goody mob, Cujo.
Third, what's that you my guy?
Chili doggin' and cold slowin', baby boy.
That's some old school, what you say?
Chili doggin' and cold slowin'.
Chili doggin' and cold slowin'.
Yeah, I gotta get that to my brother,
my young brother throw that off. He throw that off?
Yeah, flat, pretty sexy flat.
Okay, we need it.
I'm bold and cray, pretty sexy, four-four.
Man, you know you're an Atlanta legend, man.
Like, scale of one to 10, man.
What's your range from being a Hawks fan?
Oh boy, stop.
I'm a strong tension.
A strong tension.
I'm a strong tension, bruh.
I'm a, I always been home team, man.
Win, lose, or draw, bruh. You know what I'm saying? I can't go with nobody else, bruh. Yes, sir. I gotta go with tension, bro. I'm always been home team, man. Win, lose, or draw, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
I can't go with nobody else, bro.
I gotta go with the home team.
Do you remember your first game?
Man, you know what?
The music business got me to go into one of my first games.
Because I was a kid, but I never had a chance.
I didn't have nobody take me to a game.
So I just had to watch them on TV.
You feel what I'm saying?
So yeah, this music business got me to my first Hauks game.
So this might be my, maybe like my third one, man.
Believe it or not.
Your third game?
I ain't gonna lie.
Out of your whole life?
Yes, bro, yes.
That is crazy.
Now, can you imagine how even Iconz,
even though they work so hard,
it's only his third game in Atlanta Hauks. I've been one of the comes since I was a little kid, but I ain't in Atlanta Hawks. So you know what I'm saying.
I've been one of the comes since I was a little kid,
but I ain't had nobody take me.
So you know what that mean, right?
What that?
Atlanta Hawks gotta stay tuned in
to the real Atlanta streets.
Already.
We gotta keep bringing these Atlanta legends.
Yes, please.
So speaking of the Atlanta streets,
like what part of the city, I know this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's how it would.
You know it's all corporate.
That's how it would.
So I gotta act like I don't know you, but I know it.
What part of the city shaped Cujo, dog?
Man, I got to give it up to the West Side.
West Side.
Chapa Road, man, Chapa Fars.
Yep, son.
Hollywood Road, you know what I'm saying?
Yes, sir.
Bankhead, when they first called it Bankhead.
West Side was where I grew up on, bro, team.
Yes, sir.
Hollywood Road, music place. West Side, NATO, you up on, bro team. Hollywood Road Music Place.
Westside, NATO.
You did?
Already.
So what was the ATL music scene like back then?
Especially like the 90s.
Well, let me take it a little bit further, man.
Because I got to give it up to, you know what I'm saying, Kilo.
Shout out to Kilo.
Sammy Sam.
Shout out to Sammy Sam.
You know what I'm saying?
I got to give it up to Sh Sam. You know what I'm saying?
Gotta give it up to Shadi.
Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh.
And I can't forget Eliminator, Na-Na-Na-Na-Na-da.
I can't, Raheem the Dream, you feel what I'm saying?
So that's kind of like who we came up like listening to,
you know what I'm saying, before we even got up on the radio.
You feel what I'm saying?
So even before y'all got up on the radio,
you know there was spots that y'all could kick it to,
you see what I'm saying?
Especially like the Dungeon Family.
Did doh.
You dig what I'm saying?
That was a RIP to Tariq O'Way.
You dig what I'm saying?
Like, we didn't have too many spots where we could kick it.
Where y'all could kick it in front of,
cause you know the South had to kinda like,
bust through the rap scene.
So, explain, what's a spot back in the day
that you wish that was still here?
So we talking about what, like a club or something like that?
I mean just a regular spot, you know.
Man, I got a 559, man.
559.
559, man, the Velvet Room, Mojo's.
You know, these were some the 559, man, the Velvet Room, Mojo,
you know, these were some of the places, man, that, you know what I'm saying,
people could come and have a good time back then.
You feel what I'm saying, man?
Like, people listen to the music
and people actually dancing, man, having a good time.
You know what I'm saying?
So, yeah, I wish some of those spots was still around.
I'm pretty sure there's some spots like that.
You know what I'm saying?
You remember the Kitty? I heard the Kitty. I heard the Kitty. I heard the Kitty. I'm pretty sure it's some spots like that. You know what I'm saying? You remember the kitty?
I heard the kitty.
I heard the kitty.
I heard the kitty.
I heard the kitty.
Oh boy, we was about to crash it down.
I mean, club illusions, you know what I'm saying,
on Comerton Road, man.
Cause you from chapter four,
what's the club right there by the corner store
that y'all used to have right before you get over
the railroad tracks?
Oh man, oh God.
Is it elite?
What it was?
You got me on that one, the railroad track.
See the thing was, I still when I was staying on Chopper Road,
I wasn't really old enough to go to the clubs over there.
You feel what I'm saying?
Cause like they had stuff like the shrimp boat over there.
They had all type of like nooks and crannies
that you can go to.
You feel what I'm saying?
But yeah, when I finally got old enough man to drive, you feel what I'm saying? But yeah, when I finally got old enough, man,
to drive, you feel what I'm saying?
That's when I started venturing out, man.
Because for a minute, I ain't even leave the West Side.
I ain't no green, bruh.
People don't understand West Side.
That was our life.
I ain't no downtown, bruh.
I ain't no Leonard Square.
I ain't no none of that.
I ain't no Leonard Square until
getting with Rico and them at the dungeon.
See what I'm saying?
Cause he would go for a ride and say,
come on, man, you wanna go somewhere?
I'm like, yeah. I'm like, man, where the hell we at, bruh'm saying? Cause he would go for a ride, say, come on man, you wanna go somewhere? I'm like, yeah.
I'm like, man, what the hell we at, bro?
So we don't come back to about four, five, six hours.
Dude come back with food and everything,
man, everybody like, man, where you been?
Where you been?
So, Lennox, man, like, wow.
So now, man, West Side was like,
that was like my West Haven, you feel what I'm saying?
Until I got old enough to venture out a little bit more,
you know what I'm saying? Shout out to Miss Wade of the to venture out a little bit more, you know what I'm saying?
Shout out to Miss Wade of the Dungeon Man
because that was our spot right there, bro.
I mean, spending night, man, sleeping bags.
You gotta worry about your mama and daddy
telling you what to do, man.
Stay up all night, man.
That was a haven for us, bro.
Can you give us a real insight
on what the dungeon was for Atlanta,
what the dungeon was for artists from Atlanta,
and what the dungeon did at that moment.
Well, I can tell you what the dungeon did, man.
It gave Atlanta, it gave Atlanta an identity.
You feel what I'm saying?
Because all they thought that we was was,
you know what I'm saying, strip club music, you feel what I'm saying? Party music, which is good, you know what I'm saying? Because all they thought that we was was, you know what I'm saying, strip club music,
you feel what I'm saying?
Party music, which is good, you know what I'm saying?
But going in the dungeon, I got a chance to meet people
like Gip, CeeLo, Timo, these people
from different sides of town, you know what I'm saying?
East Point, you feel what I'm saying?
Southwest Atlanta, you know what I'm saying?
Here, I'm coming over here from the west side,
coming into a whole new spot, you know what I mean?
But the thing about it is, we all was on one accord
and it was like music.
You know what I'm saying?
We wanted to give Atlanta that name.
We wanted to make sure Atlanta knew,
we wanted to make sure people knew who Atlanta was.
You feel what I'm saying?
So I guess it was just some stuff built up in us, man,
that made us come out with that type of music.
Cause then nobody sit down and say,
hey man, write a song like Soul Food,
or write a song like Scent there.
But no, this was just in us, you feel what I'm saying?
And it was awesome, man,
because Hank Aaron stayed across the street
from the other dungeon on Adam Drive.
And we found out while we was doing our Soul Food album
that Curtis Mayfield stayed around the corner.
See what I'm saying?
So you know what I'm saying?
Sometimes these guys in the neighborhood, bro,
we ain't even know, you feel me?
So you know what I'm saying, man?
Man, if it wasn't for this music, man,
I wouldn't be a way around a person, you feel what I'm saying?
Because we can get Westside all day.
Always.
You feel what I'm saying?
But sometimes you gotta get out there
and be able to communicate with other people too.
You feel what I'm saying?
That's what music did for me.
So when Dre said, man, the South got something to say.
Remember when he go up there and grab the award?
Yeah, yeah.
They booing.
Yeah, they did.
They booing.
They said the South's award.
Yeah, they did.
At a time, people don't understand,
everybody's accepted nowadays in this music game.
Right, right, right. I think being the underdog made it more fun
when it's like, oh, y'all don't like me?
What?
Man, we was ready to fight everybody in there, bruh.
I mean, we was ready, man.
I mean, man, that was just so electrifying.
I'm so glad because today I posted something
on the Goodie Mart page where somebody had a VCR tape of us on the stage
because I was like, man, I thought I was there.
You know what I mean?
Then I seen all of us walk up on the stage
and we was just walking up there like, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, what's up?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right on, Drake.
Right on, big, yeah, yeah, what, what?
Yeah, they was bulldozed, but you know what?
New York was like that cousin that every time you go
of his house, he always picking on you, you know what I'm
saying?
To the next time you come up on there, you know what I'm
saying?
You're getting more, you feel me?
So New York gave us some tough love, man.
I mean, the next time we came back, boy, it wasn't none
of that.
It wasn't none of that, because we did the Apollo,
know what I'm saying?
With the Dungeon Family up there, the whole Dungeon Family,
bro.
I mean, Witch Doctor, Bat-Bone, Cool Breeze,
I mean, Outkast, Pity Maw.
And now the exclusive right now.
We got up there and did that thing, man.
And they recognized it and they respected it.
So it's like they had to respect it
because if you can't get past the booze,
you might as well go do something else.
You feel what I'm saying?
Because everybody ain't gonna like you.
And that's kind of what we ran into
because when we was doing the music,
we like man, this shit jammin' bro.
I mean, man we got some songs, you know what I'm saying?
But you go to a whole nother reason.
They like, nah, we don't know, boo, boo.
Being called country.
Being called, man what they saying?
Being called, hold on, let me say it.
Let me say it.
Let me say it.
Being called, they don't know nothing about no rap.
Right.
To see Atlanta still holding the crown.
Uh huh.
From which y'all started.
Still holding the crown.
Okay, I'm gonna say that again.
I'm gonna say that again.
Let it ready back.
Right, right, right.
To see Atlanta holding the crown
that y'all started.
How did that make you feel?
Man, it's a glorious feeling, bruh.
Cause it make your journey feel like it was worth the,
worth the while, you feel what I'm saying?
When you get some young cats come up and say,
yo man, I've been listening to y'all music
since I was seven years old.
My mama put me up on Goodie Mob.
Oh man, I used to ride in the car with my daddy,
he bumping Goodie Mob.
And then you got artists out here, man,
that's just taking that baton, man,
and you know what I'm saying,
creating careers for themselves.
Because yeah it's music but it's a business too.
So a lot of people that's doing good man,
they feeding their families.
So just think if somebody bullying you
and deterring you from doing your thing,
they try to stop you from eating.
You feel what I'm saying?
But man the South always really had something to say.
It was like we didn't have a vehicle.
A platform.
You feel me?
So shout out to LA Reid, Babyface,
for LaFace Records because they was a major record label.
And people was able to hear our music all over the world,
not just in Georgia, you feel what I'm saying?
So with that being said, man, yeah,
like my brother CeeLo said, man, we the cotton gin.
You feel what I'm saying?
So it feel good, man, it feel like rock and roll, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
This our 30 year anniversary of Soul Food.
And man, we still on deck.
And the crazy, let me tell you something.
I like for legends to know how long they been legends.
Cause that's the only thing, in our culture,
we don't respect our icons.
We have more Hall of Famers
than any other culture there is.
I'm about to be 33, man.
Okay, okay.
That's it letting you know how long you been popping.
You feel me?
You know what, you don't even think about that
when you in the mode of making history.
You feel what I'm saying?
All you wanna do is make sure your verse sound good.
You feel what I'm saying?
Make sure you pronounce in every word, right?
Cause that's what we was thinking about
while we was doing that.
We wasn't thinking about-
Cause they don't know what they saying.
Man, what you mean?
Wait, you heard what we said?
Bro, man, it was, man.
And just to be around the group like Gip, Lo and T, I learned a lot too. You feel what we said? Bro, man, it was, man, and just to be around, just to be around a group like Gip, Low, and T,
I learned a lot too, you feel what I'm saying?
Because they made me, they made me be who I gotta be,
you know what I'm saying?
Because they was who they was, you know what I'm saying?
And them guys was doing their damn thing, bro.
I mean, bro, I had to hang with,
I had to hang with the best.
I gotta call them boy the best.
But you know, music is, what you call that,
what is it, is it timeless?
Yes.
Okay.
So I'm 33.
Yes.
I didn't understand y'all music until I got old enough.
So it was new to me,
but it gave me that same impact like when you first dropped.
Yeah, yeah.
You feel what I'm saying?
So I'm like, okay, I'm 16 now,
catching on to the goody-maw way. Right, right, saying? So I'm like, okay, I'm 16 now, catching on to the goody-maw way.
Right, right, right.
And I'm like, man, I been on this one folk been rocking with.
Ooh, I been tripping.
Look bro, we was like 20-something years old though.
Maybe like 26, you know what I'm saying?
Talking some real talk, you know what I'm talking about?
And just, man, back then we was writing.
Right. It was like poetry. Depend. You feel what I'm talking about? And just, man, back then we was writing. It was like poetry.
You feel what I'm saying?
That's kind of like, and then Organized Noise coming in
with that real ass music, bro.
I mean, when you talking about digging into craze, bro,
man, these boys was going deep, man,
going into the 70s, you know what I'm saying?
The late 60s, pulling out stuff, man.
To this day, you can't even, people don't even know where self therapy came from.
But they don't even know where the beat came from.
You feel me?
So, yeah, you gotta, just like anyone,
some of these like Marvin Gaye or Luther Vandross,
oh, that's what he was talking about.
Oh, okay, you old enough now,
you done had experience now,
and now you able to really hear.
You able to get past the music,
past how it sound.
Now I hear the words.
Now to beat everything sound even better
cause now I can relate.
Like you said, music time.
It's just sitting there waiting for you.
It's waiting for you to catch up.
It's like, hey man, you young.
But I'm gonna be here when it's time for you.
Real talk, real talk.
Man, I appreciate it cause you know what,
before we get out of here,
I gotta know, what is your Mount Rushmore of hip hop?
Whoa.
Just hip hop, period.
Yep, five.
Mount Rushmore is five or four?
How many on Mount Rushmore, see?
We, it's four.
It's four.
All the people that graduated, I graduated,
but you know, I did six months of college.
Ah, that's good.
That ain't say nothing about Mountain Rush,
but it made me call for Oak Rim.
Oh, Mays High School on that.
Mays High School Class of 1990 already.
1990?
I wasn't even born then.
92, man.
Oh baby, yeah.
To let you know how long you been doing this.
It's really all about longevity.
It is, it is.
It ain't about, oh I did that in the 90s,
no you did it in 91, 92, all the way to 2025.
It's about making good decisions too.
Yes sir.
About making good decisions, but my mom Rushmore,
see I grew up on hip hop, you feel what I'm saying?
I grew up on hip hop and I gotta put,
I gotta put public enemy in there
because they came with some knowledge.
You feel what I'm saying?
And they was able to put it on 808s.
You feel what I'm saying?
Put it on a beat where it was not preachy preachy
that it was entertaining.
You feel what I'm saying?
So I gotta get that to them.
And I gotta say NWA, bruh.
I got to say NWA, man, because,
man, that stuff that they was talking, bruh,
I was scared to go to California, bruh.
I was like, boy, y'all for real?
Y'all shooting for life?
They're not there, man.
Ain't going to California?
Nah, bruh, I'm talking about they out of control, bruh.
And let me see, I gotta give it to,
I gotta put Rock-Hem up there, man.
Rock-Hem, Eric B and Rock-Hem.
Eric B and Rock-Hem, because he definitely changed
the way, changed the rap game up in New York, bro.
Because after he came out, folk had to rush
and go read a book and go do something,
you feel what I'm saying?
And I gotta put me a female up in there, man.
I gotta throw Roxanne Sh female up in there, man. I gotta throw Roxanne Shantay up in there, bro.
Roxanne, Roxanne.
Roxanne Shantay, bro.
I mean, she was a, man, I had a crush on her, bro.
All y'all did.
Everybody had a crush on her, you feel what I'm saying?
But just to hear what she was saying
coming out of that little bitty body,
and she was rapping like a female, bro.
She was rapping like a woman. She wasn't, I don't know. She was was rapping like a female, bro. She was rapping like a woman.
She wasn't, I don't know.
She was rapping like a real woman, bro.
So yeah, that type of stuff kind of molded me
into wanna do this.
Cause I remember seeing a particular movie
called Crush Groove.
And when I seen Crush Groove,
I forgot to put the Fat Boys in there, bro.
Man.
See what I'm saying?
Fat Boys, so yeah, it's five on Mount Rush.
Yeah, it's five on.
We'll carve some more stones out this rock.
Yeah, man, so like I said, I gotta give it to,
I gotta give it to the brothers and sisters up top
in New York because they made some things happen.
But it's all about the music evolving.
Yes, sir.
You feel what I'm saying?
They just can't stay in one place
because it ain't just gonna stay in the eighth.
We want the crown to stay down here,
but when somebody get real good at what they doing.
They may take over.
They may do the thing, man.
You don't have to embrace.
Hey, you got to, man.
That's the one thing you gotta learn how to do.
You gotta learn how to embrace the next man that's up.
You feel me?
Can't hate on the next man.
If he good, we got all these ducks in the row,
you gotta give to him. Got to. All right, here we got all these ducks in the row, you gotta get to him.
Got to.
All right, here we go.
We got us a speed round before we get back out here
and see our hoes.
Whoop ass, you hear me?
Here we go.
Album you enjoy making the most?
Oh man, still standing bro.
Still standing, okay.
Worst traffic in Atlanta.
Grady Curve bro.
Ooh.
Coming down 75 now boy. They don't understand. Makes you lose curb, bro. Woo! Coming down 75 North, boy.
They don't understand.
Makes you lose your realism, bro.
They don't understand.
Here we go.
Sports car, SUV, or pickup truck?
Man, I gotta do that.
Pickup truck, bro.
Got to have one.
Pick up.
One food for the rest of your life.
Oh, man.
Lamb chop, bro.
Lamb chop!
Bah!
Got to have the bah!
Got to have the chop.
You hear me?
Is this way to impress a date?
Make, be funny.
Right.
You gotta have a sense of humor.
Gotta have, don't be funny all night.
Nah, don't be funny all night.
Hit it with a A.
You make her laugh every now and then, man.
Hey man, you got him, bro.
You got her.
Yeah, yeah.
You got her, my man.
Hey, listen here, man.
Hawks and Friends, there you have it.
Brought to you another episode
with a icon, with a legend, man.
Good him up, Kujo, ya dig?
Dirty style.
["Dirty Style"]